I’m sitting in my lounge room looking at the swag of contemporary political philosophy books I own, simmering with resentment at the noise the uneducated wogs downstairs are making.

Sign of the times: from www.engrish.com

My family moved to Balmain when I was a teenager and until recently I’ve mainly lived in the Inner West of Sydney. I tried the Eastern Suburbs for a while but decided it was too cashed up and pretentious for my left-wing sensibilities. So I stayed close to Glebe and Newtown, went on the right marches, studied the right subjects at uni, and voted for the right political party.

But a couple of years ago my boyfriend and I found ourselves priced out of the inner city rental market - a direct consequence, I told myself, of my lack of materialism and desire to pursue a modest creative life.

We moved to south-western Sydney - to a suburb I had never even visited - where our newly renovated two bedroom apartment with large balcony and lock-up garage sets us back a mere $330 a week.

I now live in an epicentre of multiculturalism where Anglos are almost non-existent, and so at 41 I find myself a minority for the first time in my life. And I don’t like it. The median strips resemble the streets of Bombay - continually littered with household rubbish. We’ve renamed the corner fruit and vege shop The Rotting Fruit Emporium where the over-ripe produce is certainly cheap but has the molecular structure of cask wine.

The butchers which specialises in halal meat, particularly goat, is as hygienic as the average outdoor dunny, and the Bongo Mart, the local equivalent of a convenience store, has never stocked anything by Kraft, Arnotts or Cadbury’s.

Of course, the trouble with being immersed in difference is not that I can’t get organic truffle oil pasta or a babycino but that I’m confronted with the fact that what I thought were my values - reflected in those books with their bleeding heart titles like On Toleration, The Ethos of Pluralisation, and Multicultural Citizenship - seem to be so easily eroded by minor council violations committed by anyone I consider ‘other’.

Indeed, my self-righteousness received a boost from said council when they recently launched a ‘Quit the Spit’ campaign, designed to deter ‘foreigners’ ignorant of ‘our ways’ from gobbing all over the street. I’ve even begun to yell the slogan at people who violate it.

I’m stumped as to how the culturally specific conventions by which I live my life have come to be immutable, universal laws of nature in my mind? What’s happened to me? I’ve become the type of person I was always most intolerant of: an intolerant person. It’s positively unAustralian.

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    • whites - not as oppressed as they think. says:

      06:05am | 27/01/10

      Of course, it’s not even 5am here and already i’ve seen my (wealthy white) neighbour walk their digs into my backyard to do their mess, and my other (wealthy white) neighbour nicking lemons from another’s front yard while she’s left her Christian radio station blaring.

      Superior race my arse. Living in $5million houses and being immune from racism makes my neighbours no less pleasant than yours.

    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      08:49am | 27/01/10

      Wow, you live with neighbors in an area with $5million dollar houses…
      Now your just showing off. You are definitely not oppressed thats for sure.

    • Carrie Miller says:

      09:38am | 27/01/10

      And that’s why I couldn’t stand the Eastern suburbs. At least in the Inner West people used to cover up the fact that they were comparatively well-off and behaved nicely to each other. But that’s changed since people from the North Shore found out about Annandale.

    • iansand says:

      10:59am | 27/01/10

      There are a lot of people who don’t live up to your standards, aren’t there Carrie.  Could you be a bit of a snob?

    • whites says:

      11:43am | 27/01/10

      I’m not oppressed. But my house sure as hell isn’t worth $5 million in a pink fit. All that guff about worst house in a ritzy street, etc.

    • Dissapointed says:

      11:12am | 28/01/10

      I can relate.  I live in a worst house, best street scenario with $3 million dollar plus homes surrounding me & recently had to take my neighbour to court for stealing my mail, providing fraudlent signatures, incurring cost on behalf of other people, harrassment, assault & other nasty things & the judge had the hide to say “You people are not living in Blacktown, you live in nice suburb, you should know better.”  How out of touch!  The things I have witnessed these people in a ‘nice’ neighbourhood do are appalling.  Another neighbour (whom is mates with the first dodgy neighbour is just as bad so it’s not a ‘one-off’).

    • Anne says:

      01:25pm | 28/01/10

      “Superior race” that is a fairytale, like many other stories started long ago and you have to be a fool to believe in nonsense in this day and age, we are all the same inside, your neighbours are not immune to racism as you are, in your own way are being racist, it does happen both ways wink

    • Peter says:

      03:47pm | 28/01/10

      Instructions on how to create a superior race. 3 simple steps. 1. A good environment 2. Good nutrition 3. A few generations of good education.. That’s it. Not hair colour, not skin colour..

    • Upyaself says:

      06:36am | 27/01/10

      Very funneeee. Yuk Yuk Yuk. Sooooooo subtle.

      By the way, spitting is filthy and spreads TB, which is on the rise in Oz.

      Where I live, it’s “cool” among Anglo youth of a certain age. For some reason, they favour bus-stations to indulge. Bigger audience, I guess.

      You want TB and swine flu stopped?

      No bloody spitting. Anywhere. By anyone.

    • stephen says:

      06:49am | 27/01/10

      Mmmm… moved to Ashfield, huh ?
      Three weeks ago, I moved to Boondall - up north- and I gotta tell yer, the fruit and veg here is worse. The meat looks older than me. Haven’t seen any spit-hoons yet, though I seen some doggy-do nuggets outside the dry-cleaners.
      Tell yer what : I’ll go tell these folk to smarten up, if you tell your folk to smarten up, and I won’t call you a racist if you won’t call me a racist.
      PS all my folk got red hair and freckles, and good luck.

    • Brad Coward says:

      09:48am | 27/01/10

      You can’t get organic truffle oil pasta or a babychino ?  Bet you can get a great curry if you enjoy playing culinary Russian roulette !  Oh no, I’ve upset the Indians and the Russians in just one sentence !

    • JJJ says:

      06:55am | 27/01/10

      Wow Carrie. You just went out and said it. Great article (that really seems to hit the heart of racial issues. No one likes’difference’ [yet we are all different!]).

      I myself am not racist, I am ‘personist’. I don’t think my race is better than anyone else’s, but I think I am better than a lot of individuals! smile

    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      06:57am | 27/01/10

      Oh my god, you said Bombay…...You bloody racist!

    • Bill says:

      08:06am | 27/01/10

      I’m not racist, I don’t like anybody.

    • Mick says:

      12:48pm | 27/01/10

      Bill, I think the Greens had already appropriated your position as their basic tenet, threaded into every policy on every front.

    • tom sears says:

      06:14pm | 27/01/10

      no no no, i m not racist, i DISLIKE EVERYONE!!!

    • thomas says:

      05:56pm | 28/01/10

      i live in box hill.if i have to listen to one more idiot with their"spot the aussie” i shall scream.the local market,almost totally asian, has the best food,across the street a great iranian restaurant.?having travelled a bit,i see all of this as a bonus.in my block of flats the only people that give me grief are aussies.i think its a matter of attitude.

    • Cess Pitt says:

      08:07am | 27/01/10

      Written like a trouper! Hope you don’t get fired for your little touch of truth in journalism.
      I think more people need to experience this degeneration of health and standards in our community. Politicians should come down from their rarefied air and live in some of these suburbs for a week or two.

      There is no need to live like “the old country” in Australia. One can wash and be clean and live clean and sell clean.
      Then there is always the old “Don’t Rubbish Australia” slogan.
      These are but a few of our standards that are slipping away, never to return.
      I do hate rubbish on the streets, reminds me of the of multiculturalism in U.S.A and England.  It’s a damn shame to trash your own nest!!
      Looks like that is where we are heading though!

    • Aussie in Georgia says:

      05:58pm | 27/01/10

      Ummmm, I am an Aussie who currently lives in the States. I live in a lovely neighbourhood where there is no rubbish or spit in the streets. I am not saying that it doesn’t happen here, simply that it would be nice if you didn’t over-generalise and stereotype the people of two countries, who have, combined, populations of over 352 million.

    • Peter says:

      12:17pm | 28/01/10

      The first people to bring disease into Australia were the original murderous Anglo’s who introduced the flu to the aboriginal population.

    • Shellshocked says:

      03:01pm | 02/05/10

      To Peter, small pox was first spread to Aboriginal people in a place called La Perouse by the sailors of the French vessel held up there by illness in 1788. They were just behind Captain Phillip and their ship was captained by La Perouse himself. The small pox pretty quickly annihilated the aboriginal population. Yes, the Anglos brought the flu but the French gave Australia small pox first.

    • Erg says:

      08:23am | 27/01/10

      Interested to know which is ‘the right political party’? The greens don’t have the numbers, The Libs are dead in the water due to their policies and Kev’s gang aren’t delivering fast enough on Dental and Health care,Indigenous housing and the dying Murray.So which is it?
      Other cultures have different habits if we believe it’s right to have high immigration this is how it will be, we get used to it, accept or don’t have immigration.Lee legislated on spitting in Singapore with big fines..we do the same?

    • Joe Stephens says:

      08:41am | 27/01/10

      Great article, so much truth in it. However, may I suggest to save even more money, you can move to Campbelltown and feel right at home.

    • T.Chong says:

      09:15am | 27/01/10

      “Nasty little Racist” hope youre been ironic, if not , on behalf of all Right Punchers: “Welcome Home !!!!!!!!!!!!!”
      Just kidding folks , the breadth of open minded debate here is truly inspiring.  ; )

    • Evie says:

      09:21am | 27/01/10

      I’m shocked, Carrie. Absolutely shocked. You can rent a 2-bed apt for just $330 a week in Sydney? Bloody outrageous.

    • Lin says:

      06:20pm | 27/01/10

      Enjoyed the article - not so much some replies.

      Oh my God Australia. The race debate, if you can call it that, is going nowhere!

      Why are some people so freaked out by difference?

      Lived here 4 years and have often been asked if I find Australia more racist than UK (where I’m from). Short answer is no - there are plenty of people of that persuasion in both countries and by no means limited to “anglo” peoples in both countries.

      The major difference I feel is that in UK intolerant people have gotten over the idea of difference and realised they just don’t like people of other races. In aus it seems the meer fact of being different is an affront to those who choose to be intolerant. We don’t do it on purpose you know. Get over it and hate me for a reason - then we can discuss things.

      As for dodgy standards in cleanliness and hygiene in shops etc.that’s an issue of abiding by and enforcement of the law. To put it all down to culture is just lazy and also gets us all off the hook re: doing something about it -  as in ‘those lot are always up to that its their culture - can’t do anything about it or i’ll be called racist.”  Blame appointed and responsibility abdicated in one fell swoop.

      And btw I think I have done my bit in integrating into Australia,  from acquiring a taste for beer and learning david boon’s middle name, to regularly cheering on my aussie rules team at home games. But I will never (and never want to) get used to the word “wog” in general conversation.

    • Peter says:

      11:38am | 28/01/10

      Lin, I also think these monarchist should start assimilating into Australians before they ask others to do the same. I think this is probably the only country in the world that has a public holiday (Australia Day) that comemorates a day that a theft of a country took place and the ensuing slaughter of a defenceless people who did nothing to warrant war against them. This country is in dire need of a history lesson. There are people around who still seriously believe that Captain Cook discovered Australia. Some of the history re-writing has been disgraceful. I would also like to know more of why (up until the 1900’s) the world was accusing Australia of genocide? Our schools have a lot to answer for..

    • thomas vesely says:

      06:58pm | 28/01/10

      funny word that,when i came to oz,1957,it really was a serious term of abuse and had only hate in it. 35 years, or something years later,post intergration,its the name of a musical that celebrated the assimilation,..long way to go still for the next wave,the asian people….......i do not have,nor ever had an asian friend,or an aboriginal one either,perhaps these things are not here yet.i take heart from the fact that i see children,before they are ******,happily play together,all types,no problem.that has to be the human aspiration,somehow…

    • Danni says:

      09:25am | 27/01/10

      What? Books on leftist political theory are touchy-feely and divorced from human reality? Who’d have thunk it?
      Have you traveleld through Asia and the subcontinent Carrie? Daily habits aren’t like those preferred by most people in Australia, so it’s not surprising that when we preach multiculturalism - the seperate retention of foreign cultures - rather than preaching unity and togetherness, that you end up with the situation you confronted…. and you’re a human, it’s OK to not love absolutely everyone and everything.

    • Margaret Gray says:

      09:35am | 27/01/10

      Dog-whistlers beware.

      The satirical trap was almost perfect…although you should really have finished the story with “And then I woke up and realised I was only dreaming”. 

      Some people will think you are serious.

    • Jack Thomas says:

      11:13am | 27/01/10

      Dog whistlers, or sanctimonious latte socialists ey Margaret?

      Don’t dare speak your mind about basic standards of hygeine or decency though. Especially not in your own country, you racist!

      You should be thankful for 3rd world standards of health and hygeine, it would be simply racist to even think of educating new migrants into our white anglo ways. Bring diversity and cuisine by all means, but why is it racist to ask for basic hygeine in food preparation and public behaviour?

      I can laugh at the Stuff White People Like jokes, ignore the continual barbs at Christians in our media and ‘comedy’, just like I laugh at anyone driving a Prius or not using plastic bags at the supermarket. I almost chortled at Kevin Rudd shamelessly copying George W Bush with his children’s book.

      Why can’t you do the same Margaret? Maybe there is something in the fact that so many lame leftie comedians are now out of work because there is no George W or John Howard around.

    • Margaret Gray says:

      11:38am | 27/01/10

      @Jack Thomas

      Normally I’m not so charitable, but in your case I’ll make an exception.

      Carrie Miller is taking the piss out of you dumb, reactionary crackers and rednecks…worse most here are too stupid to realise.

      I know it’s pretty adolescent ‘journalism’ to begin with but…

      And you bit…and HARD.

      Now you know this crucial nugget, read her article again drunk on the wonderful enlightenment I have graciously given you.

      But in future, leave the irony to the professionals, mkay.

    • Al says:

      12:36pm | 27/01/10

      I guess I AM Racist as I despise the MAJORITY of people from ALL Races.
      A person actually has to prove to me they deserve my respect before I give it, the same with my friendship.
      As such I have a few good friends (from South Africa, Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan, China, Japan, France and the occasional Caucasian), but most people are beneath my notice.
      I was supremely annoyed yesterday by all the Morons, Yobos and Di*&heads; out in force.
      Show me you deserve it and I will respect you, otherwise I don’t care if you feel hard done by.
      I have NO sympathy for anyone who chooses not to do something to improve their own life. It all comes down to choice, if you are homeless then that is simply because you have made poor choices (didn’t plan for the future, didn’t strive for a better job) and I DON’T care.
      And NOBODY start me on the BS of ‘its not their fault’. That not only removes their responsibility but reduces their ability to improve themselves as if it isn’t their fault then they can’t improve the situation without help.

    • COF says:

      01:47pm | 27/01/10

      Call me crazy, but did someone just call Margaret Gray a socialist?!?

      Way to go for misinterpretation Jack - Margaret was not taking sides in the debate, she was demonstrating hubris in an attempt to feel important. Nothing to do with politics whatsoever, but you’ve demonstrated not only your inability to interpet debate but also the massive chip on your shoulder, typical of anyone who follows politics like football for all of their lives - they resort to childish quibbling and attempts to emotionally arouse their opponents. Same goes for both sides unfortunately.

      Just a little hint too - you’ve replied to the wrong person.

    • Jordan says:

      08:24am | 28/01/10

      I agree Jack. It is too easy to spout all this anti-racist nonsense from the comfort and security of Turramurra etc. These people couldn’t live in Parramatta for a week let alone suburbs like Bass Hill, Cabramatta or Fairfield.

    • SCH says:

      10:02am | 28/01/10

      Al says:12:36pm | 27/01/10..

      I’M WITH YOU!!!!

    • Jack Thomas says:

      12:51pm | 27/01/10

      Just the smarmy type I thought you’d be, thanks for the lesson but save it for your dinner party in Northcote luv.

      Suggest you take off the eye patch and re-read it Marg. From my angle, and many others, the humour is in you latte socialists who suddenly see the world you preach is not so nice when you have to live it. Have your token ‘different’ friends, put that sticker on your car, spout your inane leftist dribble, but then look yourself in the mirror when you realise you really don’t like to live in that sh1t.

      Go on Marg, I dare you. Your irony is another’s truth. Bite hard on that one.

      Maybe it’s just the old ink blot picture, and you keep seeing each one to be John Howard killing children in an asylum centre.

      Back to work anyway, I’m pretty sure my taxes pay your salary…

    • Jordan says:

      08:18am | 28/01/10

      It is you that missed the point Margaret. Go live out in Fairfield for a few months and see the reality of live out there. I very much doubt you have any idea what immigration has done to parts of this country.

    • jack says:

      09:44am | 27/01/10

      well - this isnt really so much a social issue as a law enforcement issue then. there are laws that butcher shops meet certain standards of hygiene, ( goat is much like lamb anyway isnt it? gotta be better then fox too! ) and littering is also illegal.  why not ask the local shop if theyd stock your favourite bickies?

      i went to a city once, didnt like it. dunno why anyone would want to live in one.  i wouldnt mind crowds so much if it wasnt for all the people. but ive always been intolerant.

    • Micko says:

      09:49am | 27/01/10

      Reminds me of the Chaser sketch where they set up a model of a Mosque on public display…one very proper old lady says “no….not here not in Mosman” when asked where such a development would be appropriate her definite retort was “in the Western Suburbs of Sydney”.  All very well to preach tolerance from the battlements of the North Shore, Eastern suburbs and inncer city, but the reality is very different down in the dungeons of Bankstown and Campsie.

    • Carrie Miller says:

      09:49am | 27/01/10

      You poor bastard. My boyfriend used to live in Boondall. He said he lost the will to live there. And it’s a deal. You’re no racist, maybe just a ranga.

    • stephen says:

      04:44pm | 27/01/10

      Does that mean the wedding’s off ?

      PS I’m different.

    • Jo Will says:

      09:57am | 27/01/10

      Sounds like this ‘article’ is an excuse to air feelings that you have always had - ‘uneducated wogs downstairs’.  I live above indian students (who at various times have caused me no end of trouble) but I’ve never thought of them as anything other than kids acting up rather than ‘wog’ indians (why would you? Seriously, explain the mentality that ‘leaps’ from observing a behaviour that irritates you to labelling people as ‘wogs’ - it’s utterly pathetic).  Maybe you’ve just found your niche at last, you’ve really just become the person you always really were (superior-race, ethnic hating white Australian etc).

    • JHJ says:

      10:38am | 27/01/10

      Carrie, why, at 41, would you still be concered with the books and theroy about racism etc. At this age, must of us accept that we ALL make judegments against others and assign these to ethnic differiences. It doesn’t make it right, but it is non the less true in every country in the world. I am more concered why the council does not treat the area you discribe the same as others, eg sanitary requirements etc

    • Barb says:

      11:02am | 27/01/10

      Because of the Federal and NSW Labor Party’s quest for multiculturalism, Anglo-Australian’s can now only live in ever smaller areas of Sydney. The house prices in these areas are astronomical. So next time you’re at the ballet box remember what working class Anglo’s are sacrificing for our multicultural utopia - not only their way of life, but also thousands of dollars.

      People need to start voting with the society in mind, not their own self interest.

    • Killara sider says:

      11:59am | 27/01/10

      Yes, yes one cuts ones teeth to get away from diversity, I am happy to go on ‘food safari’ tours with friends and sure the Japanese executive sent out for acouple of years two doors up seems polite but quite frankly I get quite upset when diversity comes to ones munincipality purchases a quaint federation, renders it pink then proceeds to rip out the peter fudge garden only to replace it with a hideous carport. .

    • Faten says:

      12:59pm | 27/01/10

      Barb, so you blame ethnic people for having high prices, but you don’t blame the government (nsw) for its greedy tax laws that prevented people from bothering to buy an investment property so it could be rented out. Instead investors left the market which allowed the amount of rental properties up for renting reduced, thus allowing available homes to be increased!
      Oh thats right you only know of laws that suit your ignorant beliefs.
      How about thinking outside the ignorant bubble you live in!

    • Zeta says:

      11:08am | 27/01/10

      I’ve had the opposite experience to Carrie’s. My building in the inner city hipster enclave of Chippendale used to be wall to wall Korean students. People would come to visit me and in low voices ask ‘how can you live surrounded by all these…. asians’ and I’d reply, ‘because they’re possessed of a grave like silence and preternatural politeness, also, they can sustain themselves on a diet of that weird milk iced tea which means no strange cooking smells.’

      Ever since the recent housing price spike, I’ve noticed more and more round-eyes creeping into my fortress of solitude. It started out okay, gay couples, some very alternative types in horn rimmed glasses and impossibly tight pants, and a homeless man who sleeps on the front stairs. This was fine, I could live with that. That’s Chippendale for you. But then imagine my horror when I stepped into the lift one day, expecting to find the usual ankle deep pile of empty Pocky wrappers and the faint smell of rotten vegetables only to see… white, white collar workers! In suits! Heading to work! I nearly screamed. Days later, I was parked in front of my television playing Xbox with the volume turned up to Second Battle for Fallujah levels, when someone knocked on the door asking me to turn it down. A white person. Not on. Recently, my neighbours of some 5 years, whose names were comprised entirely of consonants and sub-let their appartment to a rotating cast of dozens who slept in bunk beds in the living room up and left. Now the land lord is renovating their appartment, polished floor boards, new kitchen… and I just know they’ll be asking $600+ for it and I’ll be stuck with even more wankers, these ones just a wall away.

      The great thing about foreigners is that they’re used to living in close quarters with strangers. They’re respectful. They’re also terrified of having their student visas revoked and so don’t want the hassle of calling the Police when I decide to recreate scenes from Alejandro Jodorovsky’s The Holy Mountain on my balcony at 2am.

      White people like to talk, and they like to complain. I know this, because I’m one of them. But when I get home I don’t want to make small talk in the lift. I don’t want to be respectful of your right to silent enjoyment. White people also like ‘participating in their community’ they want to be involved in their owner’s corporation and crack down on me and the Koreans chain smoking in the corridors when it’s raining too hard on the balconies, they want to stop us dumping our unwanted furniture in the bin room, or vomiting on the fire stairs when we don’t want to sully our own bathrooms.

      So I’m a nasty little racist too, but I just hate living around the white devil.

    • dancan says:

      11:52am | 27/01/10

      Oh god damn yes.  I can live in unclean, I can live in cramped, I can live in noise.  But I can’t live in “white”.

    • TC says:

      02:50pm | 27/01/10

      I’m so racist I left the country to live elsewhere

    • COF says:

      11:17am | 27/01/10

      Nice article.

      JHJ, council sanitation efforts would (more or less) match their rate returns I would imagine, and I would be pretty certain that rates in the city of Bankstown are much less per acre than they are at Waverley council.

      In my view Carrie, intolerance is intolerance, regardless of the target. It is a negative reaction to difference. Whether it be (in my case yesterday) the white kid across the road parking over my driveway all afternoon, or the local ethnic kids spitting in the street, it is the clash of two worldviews not willing to compromise. Is it the worldview at fault or the lack of compromise?

      If you can’t compromise, I think you’ve made the wrong life choice. Move back to Balmain for your own sanity and happiness.

    • Stella Cruz says:

      11:17am | 27/01/10

      I don’t like filthy indians either. Clean Indians are fine, filthy is not. Mind you i don’t like filthy whites either. I’m hispanic and don’t like half my own people either. Everyone is racist, even hippies.

    • JJJ says:

      01:23pm | 27/01/10

      Ah, but see then it becomes an ‘individual’ issue - nothing to do with ‘race’, so it’s not racism.

    • Jezza says:

      11:27am | 27/01/10

      I live in Coburg in Melbourne & we had similar problems here…..but suddenly Coburg properties are being snapped up by yuppies & things are changing fast. The government needs to set up compulsory classes for overseas arrivals about our laws, customs & health expectations. This would go a long way to helping the new arrivals settle in & also help Aussies accept them.

    • Gary Cox says:

      11:29am | 27/01/10

      This reminds me of all the city people preaching about how to fix the aboriginal problem when they’ve never even met an aboriginal person.

    • Peter says:

      12:13pm | 28/01/10

      Your right Gary, never saw my first aboriginal until I was 14. Maybe it had something to do with the genocide Australia was being accused of up unti the 1900’s? But because Austalian history lessons (when I was in school), were littered with lies and untruths (such as Captain Cook discovering Australia)  i wouldn’t really know..

    • David V. says:

      11:35am | 27/01/10

      Clearly you’ve not had to deal with being around Gypsies in Eastern Europe. Nobody in Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, etc has a good word about those types- and hopefully we’ll never get an influx of them here!

    • Saskia says:

      03:44pm | 28/01/10

      Whats with the quaint term ‘Anglos’ all of a sudden?  Why are we copying the US in everything?  Anglo what?  Saxon?  What next…? Visigoths?  Jutes? Romans?  Carthaginians?  Stupid stereotyping.  Get out of Sydney if you don’t want all that shite.  Just don’t complain.  Sydney is a sh*t-magnet for ghetto lovers.  Other cities in Australia are nothing like what you describe and I hope never get like it either.  What basket case NSW is with so many shockingly weak govts, and people like you that choose to live there simply to say you live in Sydney!

    • Turner Garfield says:

      10:04pm | 28/01/10

      The piece ‘hinges’ on “What’s happened to me? I’ve become the type of person I was always most intolerant of: an intolerant person. It’s positively unAustralian.” Thanks for your incisive critique of our city too, Saskia! If you look at the historical data, a big part of the ‘problem’ with “basket case NSW” is that ten years ago, Sydney hosted the Olympics; the only city I know of that survived that one was Atlanta, Georgia, USA - home of Coca-Cola.  By the way the “quaint term” ‘Anglo’ is the word most frequently used to distinguish the original European colonists from both indigenous Australians and subsequent migrants. In the case of Australian colonisation it refers to ‘Anglo-Celts’, ‘Anglo-Irish’ or ‘British’ migrants. I don’t understand how you ascribe it to “copying the US”.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      11:35am | 27/01/10

      I’ve take a guess of where you are based on the ‘Quit the Spit’ campaign. I’m sure the next “major” suburb down the railway line has an even bigger challenge than your suburb. You suburb ain’t that bad though there are parts that are “suss” and like most suburbs, each has their own – not so nice spots.

      It seems to me that cleanliness and hygiene in these areas are the first to suffer as “foreigners” bring their old practices into this country.

      The website below gives you an indication of where and the type of business / proprietor that are typically not adhering to basic health standards and cleanliness. If restaurants / food outlets aren’t up to scratch, then their behaviour within the community won’t change. Pity, even trying to hit their hip pocket seems to makes no difference.

      http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/penalty-notices/default.aspx?template=results

      PS I suggest you go to the Coles / Woolies down the road, they should be a lot cleaner and so is the Deli.

      PSS I don’t think you are racist, you have a reasonable expectation of basic standards which are not in step with “home grown Aussies”. Streets that look like Bombay in Sydney is not acceptable.

    • sarah says:

      12:01pm | 27/01/10

      Try living in Dandenong!!!!!  I come from Ocean Grove beautiful beach town in Victoria , and coming from there to this filthy place lots of people are proud to call home what a shock for me !!!
      It is just a melting pot of racism coming from all angles
      I have to call my self racist cause the majority of the people here are all racist toward me aswell, I have never felt so unwelcome being white anywhere in australia .... cant wait to leave this place
      ps.. my daughter gets teaseat school for being white and having blonde hair and blue eyes ???????

    • Faten says:

      01:05pm | 27/01/10

      Sarah, their probably jealous she is white with blue eyes.

    • Coxy says:

      08:43am | 28/01/10

      Ha Dandenong. Now there’s a place that needs a bomb dropped on it

    • abs says:

      10:44am | 28/01/10

      you’ve got to be kidding me - i go to dandenong every week esp to the markets and and have been around the suburb a few times and never ever ever - found anything remotely filthy!!  You simply dont like living and mixing with other cultures.  One of my friends had his turban knocked off and spat on by whites in a dandenong school - and - you’re complaining about being teased for blond hair and blue eyes!! plz!! get over it.

    • Peter says:

      11:05am | 28/01/10

      Oh Sarah, living in Dandenong with all those uneducated immigrants. I would have thought that being white and growing up in a country that provides you with good education you could have done a lot better for yourself than these people who come here to work as cleaners.  Maybe Anglos aren’t as superior as they think they are.
      ps. You comment about your daughter getting teased just sounded like an afterthought..

    • Anne says:

      12:48pm | 28/01/10

      Peter why would you think that it is any different for a white person being racially abused than a immigrant ? and abs, would you say that you need to get over it after your friend incident ? It does not matter the colour of the skin or where they came from, there will always be stupid power freaks, and the school yard is one of those places that many people might remember far worse fates, bullies pick on the weakest or the minority, and they will use the racist card if necessary, it’s up to the parent if the school won’t do anything about it….to take some kind of action.

    • Peter says:

      01:48pm | 28/01/10

      Hi Anne, thank you for your feedback. I hate racism, regardless of who it directed at. Maybe our media should pick up on stories of Anglo Australians who have gone overseas and experienced racism as well. It might make people listen. I’m of Greek background and having returned from a holiday in Greece in 2005 I see similarities between the racism Greeks and Italians copped in the 1970’s and to what the Greeks are now saying about migrants who are now flooding Greece. When I challenged my relatives on their views, I think they seemed offended that i didn’t agree with their ideas of racial superiority. Its not just an Anglo problem. Every race probably considers themselves surperior. This migration phenomena is now an issue for the entire western world and we all have to learn to accept each other and it starts with the parents teaching their kids the right thing (even if it may conflict with their personal views). There are lot of very lovely people living in this country and my best friend is an Anglo Australian. We both accept their is an ISSUE in this country as oppossed to a PROBLEM. I think with good education, good upbringing and a healthy debate like this can go a long way in addressing this.

    • James says:

      03:32pm | 28/01/10

      If only it would Peter.  In reality, the people who think like that would come back with a sense of outrage at how racist these other races are, and use that to justify their own racism.  Some people really are just too simple to realise that race means nothing at all.

    • Peter says:

      03:58pm | 28/01/10

      Thanks James. It saddens me to say that you are probably correct. We can only keep trying..

    • H of SA says:

      12:02pm | 27/01/10

      Oh dear I think some people may have taken this article as serious…..

    • Darren says:

      10:30am | 28/01/10

      It is serious. You try living here.

    • Mandy St.Clair says:

      12:03pm | 27/01/10

      Haha - Outer western suburbs also has a influx of immigrants from varying countries.  The problem of “spitting” has long been an issue.  It’s disgusting and should if witnessed incurr a fine.  I migrated to Australia in 1971.  I speak fluent English because I was made by my parents to accept our new home and fit in.  Im all for immigration but the deal should be accept the Australian way of life, blend and learn new customs and traditions.  Afterall, if there is something about this country you don’t like - DONT COME HERE, it’s that easy.  Im over the BS and the racism talks etc, stop pandering to Whingers , send them home if they don’t want to fit in with Australia and it’s people.

    • Bruce Williams says:

      12:06pm | 27/01/10

      I loathe and HATE the following:
      Horse Races, Car Races, Dog Races, Foot Races, Bike Races,
      Air Races, and Even Ball Races (the mechanical kind )

          Does this mean that I am a hopeless RACIST ?

            Cheers barney google

    • Merry says:

      07:02am | 29/01/10

      No. You like Boat Races

    • Hohum says:

      12:38pm | 27/01/10

      Margaret, you realise that by using the word “cracker” you have just used a racial slur? During a debate on racism no less. I bet you were being satirical weren’t you? Or ironic? Or witty?

      That was me being sarcastic at the end there. Just wanted to be clear.

      Don’t worry I’m not terribly offended at being called a cracker. I do get upset when people accuse me of being a racist and a redneck because I voice my objection to basic standards dropping in the name of tolerance.

      I hold everyone to the same standard. For instance the hijab/burkha issue. I have no problem with women covering themselves. As a modern Western woman I uphold the rights of any woman wearing whatever she is comfortable with (within reason, no nuddies in the office please)

      But I challenge any one of you who believe me to be intolerant, uneducated and unenlightened to walk down a Lakemba street with your hair flowing. Feel that unease and then tell me that as a white person I have no reason to want to uphold my right to wear what I like, the way I uphold their right to wear what they feel is appropriate. That my fear has no foundation.

      You might find then that the subjects of acceptance and tolerance need to be a two way street for it to ever work. We need to require everyone, not just the white people. Or is that racist, to want to include everyone?

    • Schmavo says:

      12:48pm | 27/01/10

      @Bruce Williams….....looks like your racist problems could all be dealt with just as all racist problems are dealt with. You obviously need education and training on the finer aspects of Horse Races, Car Races, Dog Races, foot Races, Bike Races, Air Races and Ball Races.

    • nic says:

      12:53pm | 27/01/10

      Ha, I enjoyed that more than the original piece, well done.

    • Joe says:

      01:03pm | 27/01/10

      Yeah, so what’s with the ‘uneducated wogs’ bit?

      ‘What happened to you?” Seems you have lived your life by values you read or heard, rather than values you felt. And even having realised this, you haven’t been able to figure out why, and what you want/need to change.

      Once you do this, you then can have a look at some of the behaviours you ‘don’t like’, align them to your new set of values, and see if they match up.

      Other people thinking you’re racist shouldn’t be your driving force to change, because let’s face it, other people are generally stupid. What you need to be able to do at the end of the day, is sleep at night.

    • DG says:

      01:03pm | 27/01/10

      Ahh the irony.

      Immigration will do the same thing for Modern Australia as the “First fleet” did for the Aboriginal people of this Country.

      While the Australian’s of Anglo extraction are telling the Aboriginal people to get over it - with the next breath they are blaming the new comers for ruining everything and non respecting “our” ways. I love it.

      White man came, chopped down the trees and scared the beautiful mother earth. Why man told the locals to get over it. compare that to what is happening now…

    • With eyes wide open... says:

      03:31pm | 27/01/10

      DG, You do know that the center of Australia was once vegetated however the locals were lazy hunters and burnt it out don’t you? It didn’t all happen in the last 200 or so years. Many species of animals were also wiped out by the locals as you called them. Do some research son!

    • Jack Thomas says:

      04:04pm | 27/01/10

      Phil Noyce (Director of Rabbit Proof Fence, that much loved flaggelation by the self hating whites) paid for the lead actor to be schooled in Perth, because he thought she was at risk in her own community. Great movie that one, you know the evil whites stole Aboriginal kids and sent them off to be educated elsewhere.

      In the NT Aboriginal kids are more likely to be sexually molested by their own family than they are to be educated properly.

      In the NT Aboriginal girls are more likely to contract a sexually transmitted disease than they are to finish school. 

      Howard was a racist for his attempts to fix the problem, labelled “the intervention” by the Leftard media. Labor and Kevin Rudd changed not one iota of that policy, if only to let it dribble away to zero.

      Howard was a racist for locking up asylum seekers, but again Labor and Rudd changed not one iota, in fact they have refurbished facilities like Christmas Island. Barely a quibble from the subservient and biased Leftard media.

      Since Kevin Rudd said Sorry, the health and welfare of Aboriginal people has not got any better. “We’re” all so Sorry, though.

      Is that irony too DG, or just hypocrisy?

    • Lucy says:

      01:08pm | 27/01/10

      Hobart bus mall, Australia Day 2010:
      a group of 5 white anglo saxon youths, one draped in an Australian flag, the others wearing various articles of clothing with flags or boxing kangaroos walk through the mall, spitting between sentences.  They stop to swear at some Asian tourists (apprarently its ‘their day’) before arguing with the bus driver about paying their fare.  Just saying…

    • Jason says:

      01:40pm | 27/01/10

      “And I don’t like it.” all a bit 1996 pauline hanson style isn’t it? Racism has no place in Australia so all you racists leave australia because after all.. all our decendents are immigrants.

    • northern monkey says:

      01:57pm | 27/01/10

      How come their food always smells nicer than mine, though?

    • H of SA says:

      02:23pm | 27/01/10

      Sweet Chilli sauce and/or oyster sauce. Get some now, thank me later.

    • adam macleod says:

      02:12pm | 27/01/10

      Have you started wearing the Australian flag as a cape, yet?

    • Davido says:

      02:21pm | 27/01/10

      It is this sort of nasty article that is utterless tasteless and divisive.

      For those that dont get it, Carrie is trying to say that our values are not god-given and we should be accepting of other peoples values. Her implication is that if you do not accept those values you are racist/evil.

      Tolerance is of course a very nice ideal. And as she notes, easy to have when you are not confronted on a daily basis with widely different values.

      The problem is this… shouldnt the people who join a society be the ones who integrate into that society?

      Reverse integration is pragmatically almost impossible in a country where so many cultures exist. Am i supposed to adopt south East Asian values, Sub-Continent values, southern european values, african or middle eastern values?

    • James says:

      04:00pm | 27/01/10

      How far does integration go?  Does it mean that Jewish and Muslim migrants must be forced to eat bacon because a majority of Australians do?  Or that there are only certain types of acceptable headwear, and things like hijabs and skullcaps are accordingly to be banned?  Who decides what is culturally Australian?  Do we need a government department to bash out a definition of Australian, so that we can force new migrants to conform?  Forcing integration and assimilation is a slippery slope, and who knows where it will end…

    • Betelnut says:

      04:20pm | 27/01/10

      @Davido

      Can you define those uniquely Australian “values” that the majority immigrants to Australia are failing to adopt? 

      Scott Morrison the other day did a similarly poor job of defining exactly where immigrants were going wrong in their quest the be accepted into modern Australian life.

      There is already wealth of shared values across East Asia, the Sub-contient, Southern Europe, Africa and the middle east.  Why not focus on our broad cultural commonalities than on trivialities (since when is spitting a “value”.)

      In such a diverse society like Australia, perhaps tolerance is the best Australian “value” to promote and laud over all others.

    • marley says:

      04:38pm | 27/01/10

      James - no, we don’t need to force Jews and Muslims to eat bacon. Nor do we need to bash out a definition of what it is to be an Australian.  We should, however, require all our residents, from wherever they may hail, to obey local ordinances about littering and spitting on the streets and maintaining appropriate hygenic standards in butcher shops and supermarkets. 

      I think the writer has come face to face with the fact that she will tolerate great diversity of cultures and ideas, but she reaches her limit when asked to tolerate dirt.

    • Davido says:

      04:49pm | 27/01/10

      Betelnut. For me the tide mark is if you are willing to marry someone from the society you are joining.

      As i said, the emphasis should be on the people joining a society.
      When I moved to India I learnt Kannada. I learnt to eat Indian food (not the stuff people in Oz call Indian food). I participate in ALL the cultural events I can. I sought out Indians as friends. I rarely mix with foreigners.

      That sort of thing. I cant say any Indian would consider me a local. But it doesnt matter because I try and they appreciate it.

    • Faten says:

      10:03pm | 27/01/10

      Marly, I agree with you, if you chose to leave Australia and take residence in a non western country you would have to conform to their way of life or be shunned by the community. When applying to live here, DIMA should make it a requirement to take a crash course in Australia and its culture and what is expected.

      I have been to many a Halal butcher, have not found one to be dirty. I even know people who drive over half an hour away to go to one, and their anglo aussies!
      Having said that, diverse natonalities are here to stay and are not going to go away, their birth rates are higher than anglo australians and so in a couple of decades time will eventually be the majority.
      Spitting is revolting, it should be outlawed, it is especially revolting when you witness it when your pregnant, ekkkk.

    • Bitten says:

      03:01pm | 27/01/10

      People want to migrate to Australia because of the high levels of health and quality of the standard of living enjoyed by Australians (*the state of health of the indigenous population obviously a glaring disparity but separate for current purposes). They want to come here and enjoy clean safe streets, no TB etc. They fail however to understand it seems, that the reason standards of health and living are so high in Australia is because Australians, that is, the public average citizen, does things like: throw rubbish in rubbish bins, wear shoes, wash hands, wash food, don’t spit. In other words, the standard of living is maintained by the effort of every citizen. It takes effort by all of us - I for one do not appreciate people coming here and stupidly assuming that they can spit all over the place and it will be fine. We have great sanitation because as a population we insist upon it and we all contribute to maintain it. Don’t come here and bring your filthy habits with you - if you want your standard of living and health to improve, it’s actually you that has to make the most effort.

    • TB says:

      03:07pm | 27/01/10

      “I’m stumped as to how the culturally specific conventions by which I live my life have come to be immutable, universal laws of nature in my mind? “

      So, you’re saying it’s taken you 41 years to realise that humans are, on some level, programmed machines - the product of both nurture and nature? Mind you, I’m not much better - I was 26 when I was struck by the same revelation. Many have thrown around the old aphorism “You can take the person out of X, but you can’t take the X out of the person,” although I’m developing the opinion that it is possible to take the ‘X’ out - it’s just rather difficult to do so.

    • qiong says:

      03:08pm | 27/01/10

      great article and you make me reflect my own behavious. Even though i strongely believe in equality and believe human being are pretty much the same, i think i felt in heart i have some intorlerance, like i had problems with people speak loud in foreign langauge in public transport esp when i am busy or tired. I will learn to torlerant and maybe enjoy that. 

      Tolerance should not just about tolerance of a different race that simple thats just condescending but rather tolerance of other people behavious, habits and as long as its legal.

    • Turner Garfield says:

      03:17pm | 27/01/10

      ” I’m stumped as to how the culturally specific conventions by which I live my life have come to be immutable, universal laws of nature in my mind? What’s happened to me? I’ve become the type of person I was always most intolerant of: an intolerant person. It’s positively unAustralian.” Don’t look now folks, but this could just be satire… you remember satire; that subtle, gentlre form of humour we all seemed to understand before eleven & a half years of myopic, jingoistic, literal mindedness & cynical manipulation destroyed comedy as we once knew it? A form of humour once prevalent before criticising or… God forbid!.. Ridiculing the government became acts of ‘sedition’? So much for the ‘humourless left’! It seems the entire country (or at least significant sectors of it) still blissfully labour under the delusion that it is the responsibility of governments to determine… well, no to DICTATE what ‘Australian’ IS or MEANS or even that the distinction itself is at all relevant in an increasingly ‘globalised’ world (a tip of the hat to ‘Dubbya’ for that phrase). ‘Multiculturalism’ (like post modernism… I can hear the right-wing teeth grinding from here) is a condition in which we live; not a phenomenon to be in favour of or opposed to. Oh! Before I forget; Jack Thomas- people laugh at christians because people who maintain imaginary freindships are really weird.

    • ab says:

      03:48pm | 27/01/10

      Davido, the idea is intergration, not assimilation. While newcomers should adopt our values, they should be allowed to bring new things to our culture as well, the theory being we can learn something from each other.

      I don’t know why racism has been such a big topic in Australia recently, I mean my god, this is 2010 and you would think societies are past the stage where we can tell people to stop being who they really are.

      Anyone opposed to immigration is either economically misguided, racist or simply a terrible human being. How selfish that people refuse to share their gift of freedoms and justices with those who admire them or even are in desperate need of them.

      When will people just stop listening to our two Destructors, Liberal and Labor, and find the right answer? If we don’t undergo a fairly significant political change I’m afraid this nation will no longer be a lucky country.

      And for those who mock people for being overzealous in denouncing racism, this problem is not going to go away with an attitude like that, certainly not if you refuse to recognise that racism, and in fact all discrimination, exists in many forms in many societies

    • davido says:

      04:34pm | 27/01/10

      AB I welcome your well-balanced comments.

      I agree with you when you say:
      1. values are about give and take; and
      2. both political parties have failed us.

      I disagree with people constantly mocking, bashing and denigrating certain sections of the community on the basis of their opinions. Those types of articles are the very definition of discrimination are they not? Always being berated by the moral high ground gets tired doesnt it?

      The issues are perennial and universal. Thus Australia is not in a unique situation. Back in the 80’s the massive sub-continental migration to the UK caused a decade’s worth of race riots. Any sociologist will tell you that rapid changes in the societal construct inevitably creates problems.

      I dont think it is selfish to want people who come to Australia to want to join Australian society rather than co-existing with it. It is also, as I pointed out, the pragmatic option to select immigrants on the basis of their ability to harmonise with the society they are joining.

      Why would you let someone come to your country when they:

      1. refuse to marry into the general population and in many cases -Indians for example - refuse to let their children marry into that society;

      2. show allegiance to political concerns outside Australia. How many of the Chinese students who bullied the Tibetan protestors at the Olympics would you want becoming a citizen?

    • Jason says:

      03:54pm | 27/01/10

      I don’t think it’s a racial thing rather than an issue of low-income vs high-income. If you go to a low-income predominantly Anglo-Australian suburb like Macquarie Fields, it wouldn’t be uncommon to see stray trolleys and debris as well as domestic disputes and loud music too. There is also a large number of rich migrant families with doctors and university lecturers living in high-income suburbs like Toorak but there is no lowering of living standards.

      Sure, we all have differences. Although, things like median strip debris and other violations of council law are the responsibility of the council or police, they aren’t enforcing their regulations.

    • Steve Smith says:

      04:07pm | 27/01/10

      How did the moderators let a common sense comment, slip through the system?

    • James says:

      04:47pm | 27/01/10

      Society is never going to eliminate racism, anymore than they are going to eliminate fear or lust.  Racism comes about I suspect, because it is much easier for your brain to put things i.e. humans, into catagories that it is to completely assess each human on a case by case basis, as the lowest energy solution it will win every time, with everyone.

      You are entitlled not to like a person or a group of people, but if you are logical you have to limit your dislike to actions that negatively impact you.  It would also be preferable if you actually talked to the people you have a problem with and sorted it out by communicating. 

      Like genetic diversity, cultural diversity on the whole makes a society stronger.  But like “bad” genes certain cultural practices (i.e. spitting in the street) are not beneficial to society overall.  The trick is to modify only the cultural practices that are offensive, not slag off and dismiss the entire culture wholesale.

      If we all stick to playing the ball not the man/woman, I think we should all get along just fine.  What’s more with an exchange of different points of view and ideas not only will society be more innovative and strong it will be more interesting to live in.

    • haha says:

      04:51pm | 27/01/10

      soon enough, we’ll all be the same, slightly brown skinned, race.. well have interbred and intermingled and traditions and customs will become so blurred, well all just be… human.  then what will we whinge about?

    • H of SA says:

      05:21pm | 27/01/10

      Davido, you commented that:

      “Any sociologist will tell you that rapid changes in the societal construct inevitably creates problems”

      the missing word here is “initially” and sociologist will tell you that rapid changes in the societal construct inevitably creates problem INITIALLY (sorry about the caps but there is no highlight option it not mean to be a shout).

      Long term, as sociologist and community development experts will tell you - migration is massively benefital - that’s why pretty much evey developed nation does it.

      Robert Putnam has done a fair bit of research into this to show that its not great at first but long term its really good

    • James2 says:

      08:19pm | 27/01/10

      Who listens to sociologists anyway?

    • H of SA says:

      01:21pm | 28/01/10

      The surprisingly combo of the Mr. For Community/Human affair’s advisors in your state and sociology students

    • ab says:

      05:31pm | 27/01/10

      Davido, we shouldn’t seek to invade anyone’s privacy depending on who they choose to marry or what political concerns they have.

      We should encourage against behaviour such as denying children the right to marry of a different race, but to impose it as a restriction is the very hypocrisy of your argument. You say it’s not OK to discriminate against someone’s opinions, but think it is OK to impose restrictions on people based on those opinion. Personally, I agree though, I would prefer more reasoned argument to unsupported mocking.

    • Davido says:

      02:58pm | 28/01/10

      I use the example of marriage as an example of a measure of a persons willingness to integrate into a society.

      It is not OK to denigrate sections of society based on their opinion (irrational) or not. That is discrimination. It is OK and I would argue necessary to select people to immigrate to a country who are capable of and interested in joining the society as a whole.

      The reality is that at least some people come to Australia with no intention of joining Australian society. I believe a mere co-existence based on geography is not good enough.

    • Andrew says:

      06:21pm | 27/01/10

      Are you kidding?? $330pw in Fairfield gets you the penthouse in a new building. You could probably get a 2br in one of the dodgier, older unit blocks for barely half that.

    • S.L says:

      06:42pm | 27/01/10

      Is this a beat up? A (confessed) left leaning journo who grew up in and around the inner west and eastern suburbs of Sydney decides to rent a flat in the south western suburbs of said city?
      I can’t fathom that I’m sorry. With her natural and professional curiosity she would’ve sussed out the area first you would think. Not thinking she would’ve come accross negative stories about that part of town all her profesional life.
      I think this story is fanciful rubbish designed to get agreeable comments from Bogans and White Anglo Rednecks.
      Carrie try harder….........

    • DON'T GOLLY says:

      07:37pm | 27/01/10

      It has nothing to do with being racist and all to do about general hygiene.  It may be O.K is some countries to spit, burp or even brake-wind but please, please, if you may PLEASE do not spit your golly out onto/into/around/in a public place, and have a bit of consideration for other people and public health.

    • brett says:

      11:17pm | 27/01/10

      Of all the comments I’ve ever read on this site, I never read as much useless text before. It seems to come from people trying to avoid the real issue and blame social circumstances rather than genetic and cultural norms of the races out there.
      Auburn does look like the middle east, Richmond does look like Viet Nam, and Noble Park is becoming a little machete wielding Africa. 
      Micro ethnic suburbs that isolate people and highlight differences are the problem. Even now it’s Asian VS Middle Eastern and Indian VS Islander. It’s Muslim VS all others.
      Integration was the better solution, that’s why we have school uniforms.

    • Catharine Lumby says:

      11:29pm | 27/01/10

      Hilarious. Wonderful to see that satire still has bite. We’ll know the genre is dead when people stop biting back.

    • boiragi says:

      11:54pm | 27/01/10

      I think the suburb is Dulwich Hills, and the halal goat meat shop as yucky as it can be. Well from Subcontinental culture.

      I am from Sub-Continent but how about me joining the one nationa. Recently they said that they are to accept all race under the sun.

      There you go.

    • Jacquie Butterfield says:

      12:55am | 28/01/10

      Carrie is just a decent woman who has obviously bent over backward to be fair-minded and magnanimous to others and has finally had enough.  What the Councils do in those areas who knows, but they are not working to good traditional Australian standards of decorum and decency.  I think she went overboard to be politically correct and has finally seen that leniency will not achieve reasonable results.  All those decrying her should see that from her background she has been over-lenient and now the locale is overbearingly un-Australian and Ango/Irish/Scottish/Welsh/Europeans and many Asians and South Americans, North Americans, Canadians, Africans, Middle Easterners have had ENOUGH of garbage, litter, spitting morning and afternoon in backyards where neighbours heave and want to vomit when they hear it (unlike me who lived in South East Asia for a long time long ago)....how about those decrying this lady be reasonable and stop yourselves bending over backwards, or one day you may be bending over forwards!!!! The fact that she is a creative / artist signified to me very clearly that she is a live-and-let-live kind of person and loves all people who are artists or performers no matter the background as her peers.  WAKE UP AUSTRALIA BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE…..DIE ZEIT GEHT SCHNELL, LE TEMPS PASSE RAPIDEMENT, EL TIEMPO MARCHA RAPIDAMENTE!!!!

    • Arios says:

      01:45am | 28/01/10

      People are often quick to drop the “racism!” card. However, most issues stem from cultural differences. I.e. the varying ways that people from different cultures and groups are raised and the attitudes they live by. This is of course nothing to do with their blood, the type of skin or something physical ingrained in their flesh. It’s caused by them growing up and being surrounded by a particular culture or environment for many years, which obviously ingrains certain behaviours and beliefs in the individual.

      Therefore, someone should be able to freely say “Indians usually stink or have bad body odour” without it being labelled racist. What they are really saying is “The way that most Indian people have been raised, their attitudes and the culture that they have been immersed in, has taught them that they don’t need to place a big emphasis on having a regular shower or using deodorant.” for example. Why are we considered racist by actually highlighting some of the drawbacks of other “cultures”. Again, I am not saying “Indian blood is evil/bad or their blood stinks”. I am saying, the way they think about certain things could be improved.

      We really need to have more balls in this area and be able to express these kind of views.

      BOTTOM LINE:
      People who choose to come to Australia, should adapt to the majority of our culture, not make the place dirtier and certainly not spit on footpaths. If they aren’t happy to be flexible like that, we really have to have the balls to say that they are not welcome. And there is nothing wrong with this.

      I currently live in another country and have friends from many countries, also “ethnic” Australian friends. I am not “RACIST”. But I can’t stand lazy people who don’t want to bend or integrate well when they hang out in their same old groups and spit on the footpaths. Yes the risks of TB grow from this and it’s just plain dirty. Spitting is just a single issue. There are so many Indians with really bad body odour. There are so many angry Iranians and Lebanese people that look at you with hate in their eyes and intimidate the locals. And yes parts of Sydney are absolute hell holes which I would never live in.

      It’s not racism, these cultures have some great points (curry) and some not so great points (don’t use deodorant).

      Japanese are some of the politest and respectful people you will ever meet. NOT because of something miraculous in their blood, skin or flesh. BECAUSE of their culture and the way they are brought up, their rules and values.

      I love the idea of our culture gaining from other cultures that we invite into the country. But there is nothing wrong with standing up and saying “Hey leave your drawbacks at home please”. We don’t want litter on our streets and to have to dodge piles of flem on the footpath.

    • brett says:

      07:38am | 29/01/10

      What you say Arios makes a lot of sense to me.

    • Paul says:

      09:10am | 28/01/10

      Go live in doveton for a year.  Then you’ll understand my philosophy.  Its not if your black, white, asian, hispanic, whatever.  Its how you treat other people.  In doveton, 95% of people are trash.  You wake up to the dulcet tones of “oi you little c#$$!  get your f@#@# arse back here!”.  Thats the local white trash calling her psychotic child back to her.  Of course theres also the local sudanese gang who hang out at the park, and that indian guy that stares you down whenever you go near him.  I dont like any of these people and living in the area was awful.  the 5% who are decent though?  who gives a rats arse about race… its how they treat you and the others around them.

    • Peter says:

      11:08am | 28/01/10

      Very true Paul. People see what they want to see. Every race has its drongos. Can you imagine it were non-anglos who rioted in Cronulla, we never would have heard the end of it..

    • vic says:

      11:16am | 28/01/10

      stephen, just moved to Ashfield form Bondi. Food is better and fresher, and people are friendlier. Don’t know what your problem is, it must be you…..

    • Josh Doherty says:

      12:30pm | 28/01/10

      So…. Bring back assimilation????

    • cats says:

      01:31pm | 28/01/10

      I’m trying to think of something, but i can’t think of anywhere in Brisbane which is like this. Everyone says Inala but i lived there for a bit and it wasn’t actually that bad. I was very young and by myself a lot, and if nothing happened to me.. then it doesn’t seem a likely thing to happen. Maybe i’m just lucky. I’ve lived in Qld all my life so i’m probably a bit ignorant of living in really multicultural places.

    • Peter says:

      04:18pm | 28/01/10

      Hi Cats, it does get some getting used to if a particular migrant group comes to live in your area in large numbers. Melbourne and Sydney have seen the bulk of it so far. The problem is both our political parties do not do enough to advise the locals of what is happening and to advise us of similarities and values these cultures have. When my dad (and others) came here from Greece in 1969, they were INVITED here by the Government of the day to work etc. In fact, in the city where my dad came from, Canadians, USA and Australia were all marketing themselves as friendly and ideal places to live. I think then you can understand some of the disappointment that when they got here they were abused by the locals, and me as a kid had to put up with violence from other kids. That’s not how you treat people who have been INVITED to your country. I think our political parties have a lot to answer for, more so than any individual racist…

    • Peter says:

      03:44pm | 28/01/10

      It would be hilarious to see Gypsies coming to Australia. If Anglo Australia feels confronted with the current non-anglo migrants that are here, imagine how they would react to the Gypsies. I think it would be good for a laugh.. I remember seeing them in Greece and despite their fancy cars and money, they loved living in tents on road sides etc. It would be so funny if that happened here..

    • Catharine Lumby says:

      09:48pm | 28/01/10

      Good to see that race is no longer an issue for most respondents here. Clearly we’re all good liberals - particularly those of us who studied the right subjects at uni. Thankfully none of us ever have secret desires to punch out someone who cuts us off in traffic, smack our children or report people next door to the police when they play their weird ass foreign music after midnight. Education - as Carrie Miller reports tongue in cheek-  is the ultimate antidote to incivility. Just ask anyone who was lucky enough to be colonised by a more civilised society.

    • thomas vesely says:

      11:35pm | 28/01/10

      get your skills out,leaflet your neighbours,clean up day, and every one bring a plate/barbie,talk with the folks,local is where it begins….......

    • Common Sense agenda says:

      07:30am | 29/01/10

      You have just realises the socialist agenda is a curse on the western world, and will wreck our civilisation. The do gooders (you were one) don’t understand these people live as they live in the native country, they have little hygiene, or respect for anyone outside their tribe. They will drag you down staying there, you cannot change them, the socialists did not tell you the suburb would be look like a tip and you may get TB. This is part of a bigger agenda the politicians have not been honest about, as your local pollie why these guys spitting all over the suburb are on a 60k pa pension while your mum and dad if retired are on 20k. Why are we bringing in wefare cases when good workers from Ireland and UK cannot get in? Don’t get sucked in by the Racism word that is a cover for a much bigger agenda, trawl the net for the truth, it will frighten you.

    • Paul says:

      07:15pm | 29/01/10

      Now you know.  Of course its only we Anglos that are ever racist.  Everyone else is just so sweet and tolerant (mind the spit…)

    • Puh-lease says:

      10:14am | 03/05/10

      Instead of reading the ‘right’ books, you could real ‘all’ books, lest you remain wantonly ignorant.

      Spitting, shouting, rotting food and littering are not culturally specific conventions; they’re universally bad things. They are shared by low class, undereducated bogans from all cultures. HongKong has LOTS of litter bins with stickers, begging people to dispose of their rubbish and please don’t spit, because it spreads disease. Over the years, as the people have become more educated (essentially, more classy), spitting and littering rates have dropped dramatically. The same goes for the streets of Mumbai, that have seen amazing civilisation advances. Most of the world’s codes for civilised behaviour greatly overlap. It just happens that we take a lot of the world’s flotsam and jetsam. Nobody wakes up and thinks: “My life is going really well at the moment, perhaps I should leave that behind and move to Oz”

    • Kaufmann says:

      01:41pm | 04/05/10

      Australia is a country that isnt ready for the new world.
      when they are ready 100 years later…....then only will it progress…..
      meanwhile everyones living in a slum or pretending their shed is worth $10 mil.

    • Shockadelic says:

      09:39pm | 06/05/10

      It’s so pathetic how many respondents here are attempting to write this off as satire. Oh no, she couldn’t possible MEAN what she said!

 

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