I recently wrote a letter of complaint to my local library.

Whingers put a real downer on Corey's big bash. Illustration: Warren Brown.

Dear Sir/Madam,  I am writing to lodge an official complaint with your management team regarding the horrible amount of noise that emanates from your establishment. I recently bought “A Touch of Frost” on DVD and your supposed “place of learning” has made it increasingly difficult to enjoy my purchase.

I constantly have to turn up the volume to drown out the hideous thumps coming from the library. Overwhelmed by this outrageous sound, I yesterday visited the building to investigate it. It has come to my attention that people are closing their books too loudly.

I understand that your building is several kilometres from own place of residence, but this does little to mitigate the sound. One would think you’re running some kind of roller skating rink filled with sugar-guzzling cretins like that rude little boy in Alone in the Home or whatever it is called. Yours in a never-ending stream of complaints and frustrated rage, Jason Tin.

The library in question promptly apologised and promised to move their Homeless and Disabled Orphan Reading Group to a different location. Good riddance.

Now, before I continue, I’m going to let you in on a little secret: I realise I’m writing a whingey column about people whinging too much. This, as I’m sure you’re aware, makes me a wanker.

Good, I’m glad that’s out of the way. 

I was recently speaking with a woman post-floods whose husband had lost his place of business in the deluge. Her nine-year-old daughter decided she would raise money for flood victims like her father and began planning a street party to kick things off.

Her mother proudly watched on as she made handwritten invitations, which she placed in every mailbox in the neighbourhood.

Spongecake was made, balloons were bought and three-legged races were scheduled.

A large group of young kids and their parents showed up, an impressive sum of money was raised and the day went exceptionally well. That is until a police car showed up.

It seems a certain Mrs Grinch, who lived a few houses down, called in a noise complaint.

Apparently, someone dropped a cupcake and the resulting shockwave killed her dog. This, coupled with the unfathomably annoying rattling of gold coins in a donation tin, convinced her that a bunch of nine-year-olds needed to be tasered mid-egg and spoon race.

To their credit, as soon as the officers arrived at the “party”, they ignored the noise complaint and turned on the sirens for the kids. Mrs Grinch promptly wrote a letter to the Crime and Misconduct Commission.

Mrs Grinch, you see, is part of a growing culture of whinging. She is a mere foot soldier in an army of pen-waving loons who relentlessly march towards their promised land of silence and homogeny. 

With permanently narrowed eyes and clenched fists, they measure lawns, yell at other people’s children and rant to council officers about how rubbish day was yesterday and Mrs Shipman STILL hasn’t taken her bins back inside.

Watching telly on a rainy night in Wellington a few months ago, I stumbled upon a show dedicated to this exact sport.

“Noise Patrol”. That’s a real show. A bunch of polite cops follow up noise complaints and travel from street to street telling young people to turn down their Oasis (remember, it’s still the 90s over there).

I can still remember my primary school principal telling us that the people living behind the cane track next to the school had been complaining that we were “playing too loud”.

Apparently, after living beside a school for ten years, they finally realised that children do indeed make noise - horrible, high-pitched wails of joy that pierce the early afternoon air like predatory pterodactyl screeches.

One lady recently told me that Brisbane should no longer host music festivals in the botanic gardens because it was “far too loud”.

Despite the fact she lived on the other side of the river, she felt those three or four days of noise a year were spoiling her nest egg.

Her rationale was that she had paid good money to live where she did and so reserved the right to live in blissful silence. Like many others, she doesn’t yet realise that the purchase price of her villa doesn’t include the entire city.

Now, I’m not the biggest fan of Parklife, but I still think it’s important that Brisbane nurtures a variety of cultural scenes. Plus, the event brings with it tons of money that flows into the tills of convenience stores, bottle shops, hotels, pubs and clubs.

And let’s not forget the city’s tattoo artists, tanning salons and hardworking drug dealers – who greatly benefit from the sudden demand for pingers, anabolic steroids, southern cross tats and melanomas (obviously, I don’t think tattoo artists and tanning salons are in the same league as drug dealers).

Germany, encouragingly, has just passed legislation that protects normal folk from frothy letter-writers.

The country’s government had been dealing with an incredible amount of complaints relating to noisy children in playgrounds. Many of these outbursts actually resulted in kindergartens being refused planning permission.

Child care centres were also forced to build noise-protection walls – which undoubtedly added extra financial strain for parents. The new laws will put a stop to that. It’s a massive win for commonsense.

Personally, I don’t think this sort of legislation goes far enough.

I firmly believe that all frequent complaint-lodgers should have to soundproof their house – because I’m sick of calling council to complain about them licking envelopes too loudly.

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    • southernX says:

      06:05am | 24/02/11

      I love reading 10 straw man arguments before work. Nice one.

      This isn’t about childrens parties, or kids playing in a pool.  This is about noise, late night and early morning, that stops dozens, if not hundreds, from sleeping.  Knock on impacts on work, safety, and family life can be enormous. 

      I’m all for a simple rule - noise level audible outside your property above a set level after 10pm? Immediate removal of all equipment for destruction and a fine. Simple as.

    • Aitch B says:

      08:33am | 24/02/11

      @southernX

      Geez…... immediate removal of equipment and destruction???

      Suppose you want the guillotine brought back too…....

    • Anthony says:

      08:51am | 24/02/11

      The problem is, after 10pm everything is audible outside your property. Sound carries further at night, fact. Even music played quielty will seem loud to someone if they have been asleep. Just suck it up, buy some ear plugs and get on with your life.

    • CABAL says:

      08:51am | 24/02/11

      And the fun police arrive in full force… On that note I do find it fun to wait until about 8AM on a Saturday or Sunday morning then start blasting electronic music at top volume. Nothing anyone can do about that and I bet it pisses the neighbours off.

    • Oxnard says:

      09:47am | 24/02/11

      @southernX
      I can hear the trains going past my home after 10pm…does that mean I can go remove the train tracks and destroy the trains?
      Whatever happened to just knocking on the door asking them to turn it down a little…or if you are a cantankerous old coot just slamming a broomstick against the ceiling until it stops.

      Possibly if you could take the article in the light it was meant. A whinge against those people who have been sucking lemons all there life and don’t want people enjoying themselves in the middle of the day.

      My girlfriend works at a large company as a food/nutrition advisor but most of the calls she receives are from the people described above who complain about there icecreams being too white or the box not having every ingredient listed in massive letters on the front (apparently can’t be bothered to turn it around and look at the ingredients). I recommend you try to do this job for a few weeks and see how you feel about serial complainers.

    • Brisneygal says:

      10:55am | 24/02/11

      Southern X you’re probably one of the same people who agree every time someone suggests that we raise the legal drinking age from 18 to 21 and say “those damn kids today drink too much”.

      I bet if they did that you’d then be the first to call the cops when you get a sudden rise in the number of parties making noise til after 10pm because all the kids who used to be at the pub on a Friday or Saturday night are now stuck at home making noise.
      Then you’d probably start a campaign to get the legal drinking age lowered to 18 because you’ve suddenly realized that if you’re old enough to be considered legally responsible for your own actions, you’re old enough to drink. But really just that age group can make a hell of a lot of noise at 2am in your suburban street…

    • Crash Test Dream says:

      10:56am | 24/02/11

      While we are at it, anyone who has barking dogs (especially if they bark at night) should have them forcibly removed and destroyed.

    • Sam says:

      11:05am | 24/02/11

      SoutherX,

      Are you my neighbour by any chance?

      (We have had 5 visits from the local council in just one year, four of which had nothing to do with us smile)

    • Sam says:

      11:05am | 24/02/11

      SoutherX,

      Are you my neighbour by any chance?

      (We have had 5 visits from the local council in just one year, four of which had nothing to do with us smile)

    • Muttley says:

      11:06am | 24/02/11

      what about music played loudly Anthony? There’s one in my street that you can feel the music pounding at 3am. I dont call the cops, but it is bloody annoying. Have your music on but try to show some courtesy for those living close eh?
        But by the same token, whingers take note. If people keep to themselves for the most part, if they are having a rare get together, try to show some understanding and put up with it for the night.

    • Steve says:

      11:10am | 24/02/11

      And how often does that happen? I used to have parties in my younger days. I always informed the neighbours beforehand and made sure the music went right down to low at midnight. Occasionally I’ll have a neighbour throw a party these days while my family and I are trying to sleep. Yeah it’s kinda hard to sleep but I can handle that once or twice a year. If it was happening every week I might get annoyed but I don’t think any neighbourhood would have that problem unless you decided to move in next to a night club. I’m more bothered by the hoons in their V8 utes and other bogan mobiles who seem to think that doing burnouts around the corner next to our house is ok in the early AMs.

    • Anne71 says:

      12:54pm | 24/02/11

      Funny how the noise-loving brigade seem to think that it’s unreasonable of the rest of us to get annoyed when we have to put up with constant loud music / TVs late at night (I’m not talking about parties or one-off stuff like that) No-one is saying that you can’t listen or watch, all we’re saying is have a bit of consideration for those around you who might want to enjoy their own music, TV show or even just some quiet time in their own home. Keep it to a level that you can hear but not the rest of the neighbourhood. And seriously, if you have to have it so loud you can hear it in the next street to do that, then we “whingers” don’t need earplugs - you need a hearing aid. But then again, it seems to be the bogan mentality that it if it isn’t loud, it isn’t fun.

    • Edgarr says:

      02:34pm | 24/02/11

      If the music is too loud, you’re too old

    • Nicole says:

      02:39pm | 24/02/11

      My neighbour has a baby. It cries for its 2am feed - “immediate removal of all equipment for destruction and a fine”. I can’t see that happening.

    • AndySYD says:

      07:12pm | 24/02/11

      You had me till the cupcake

    • mattkas says:

      08:37pm | 24/02/11

      @ Crash Test Dream: You’ve nailed it. The dog problem is the hot issue for me. The noise of barking dogs in my neighborhood is continuous 24 hours a day. I thought my dog neighbours were destroying my life until I was savaged nearby by two bulldogs off lead. Now I’m too scared to walk in the local area so I stay home and listen to the barking in safety. As I type, my next -door neighbour’s four dogs are barking at 9.30pm. Why do so many people feel the need to have dogs? Dogs really suck.

    • CB66 says:

      08:45am | 25/02/11

      I am indeed one of the older set, that does indeed complain about children making lots of noise, teens and their parties (especially the poor choice of music). I don’t however, call the police or bang on the door - I just buy the house, have it removed and extend my gardens - it is an expensive way of keeping the peace, yet if you want full control of your environment I’m afraid it is the only way.

    • JMO says:

      08:31am | 26/02/11

      “And the fun police arrive in full force… On that note I do find it fun to wait until about 8AM on a Saturday or Sunday morning then start blasting electronic music at top volume. Nothing anyone can do about that and I bet it pisses the neighbours off.”

      If you are deemed to be causing a disturbance police can tell you to turn down your music or face a fine. It’s police discretion. And why be a dick about it? I am sure you would be pissing off even the friendly neighbors with that behavior.

      SO people have a right to make some noise and live their lives.  Don’t we also have the right to some peace and quiet in our own homes?

    • Baz says:

      09:25am | 27/02/11

      Haha, southernX, the story is about you!!!

    • Sally says:

      09:00am | 28/02/11

      Southern, I think that’s already the law.  You’ve actually described it exactly.

    • deb says:

      06:23am | 24/02/11

      good on yar! wish i could sound proff me house thou.folk up the road like,they thik that music is best herd on loudest.yer all night saterdy and usually fridy too.
      not that im whining thou.i am a bit deaf like.

    • Barman says:

      06:42am | 24/02/11

      I would like to complain about the previous comment. It ended abruptly.

    • deb says:

      08:13am | 24/02/11

      sorry,low noise tollerence

    • Placebo says:

      11:48am | 24/02/11

      and bad spelling to go with it smile

    • jess says:

      07:46pm | 24/02/11

      that went beyond bad spelling, that was total disrespect for the English language!

    • Rob says:

      06:51am | 24/02/11

      I think you really need to take these issues more seriously, Jason!
      For example, have you ever lived under a flight path? I bought a house last year a mile from Sydney Airport. You have no idea how much noise those planes make coming in to land. We only get to sleep between 11pm and 6am when the curfew takes effect! It’s ridiculous! How can they possibly let planes fly in and out in such great numbers, making so much noise from 6am to 11pm?
      I paid good money for my house - what right do airlines have to take away the enjoyment of my home? I can’t even hear a full Oasis song through without a Boeing 737 drowning it out…
      We’re working hard to form a neighbourhood campaign group to have planes banned from 8pm to 8am so we can return to a quiet life for 12 hours a day. That’s not unreasonable is it?!
      We’re not whingers, just ordinary people trying to get on with an uncomplicated life…  It’s not our fault someone built an airport near our dream home is it?!

    • Honestly says:

      07:29am | 24/02/11

      You bought a house under an EXISTING flight path, ONE mile from one of the airport in the biggest city in our country and you think you have wright to shut down services for four extra hours a day?! You are case in point for legislation against idiocy and continued calls for commonsense. Buy a house that costs more and ISN’T under the flightpath.  If they then move the flightpath, and effectively move the goalposts in the middle of the game, lower the value of your house and disrupt your previous expectations of the quiet life then you can complain. Until then, there’s a whole bag of ‘shhh’ with your name on it Scotty.

      PS my local airport moved the flightpath over my house five years after we bought it, so I know what you endure, the difference is you knew about it before you bought. Or should have if did more than about 3 seconds research into the location.

    • John says:

      07:56am | 24/02/11

      Suppose a little self-responsibility / a little research in buying a house just doesn’t exist anymore. Im sure the airport was built after you moved in Rob wasn’t it?

    • KH says:

      07:57am | 24/02/11

      Obviously this is a joke, but it all seriousness, people often do purchase a property and find later on that some stupid council decides to allow a nightclub with a license for 1200 people to open up 200 metres from your front door.  The noise is one thing - the criminal damage to our property, the alcohol bottles and people urinating in our garden are another thing entirely.  Some complaints are warranted.  When you buy into one thing only to find it turns into something else down the track, you have a right to complain.  You buy a house next to a live music venue, you have no right to complain - it was there first….......

    • Mike says:

      07:57am | 24/02/11

      “I bought a house ... a mile from Sydney airport” and now I want the airport to shut down…  Hahahaha!  Either Rob needs to “get a grip”, or this is a great leg pull… smile  I’m hoping it’s the latter, but it sounds so serious…  smile

    • RGG says:

      08:22am | 24/02/11

      The idea of a curfew on an international airport is a joke. How the hell are you not used to aircraft noise after a year? Good god Australia is full of whingers.

    • ibast says:

      08:26am | 24/02/11

      Honestly, I think I can hear the woosh of it going over your head from here.

    • cleaver says:

      08:39am | 24/02/11

      11pm to 6am is 7 hours of sleep. I don’t see the point of your argument.

    • Ben says:

      08:56am | 24/02/11

      Honestly, I think Rob’s comment was more tongue-in-cheek and following on with the theme of the original article…

    • DG says:

      08:59am | 24/02/11

      [I assume this was supposed to be satirical given the last 3 lines, but I’m not certain. the idea that someone would consider a house under an existing flightpath to be a “dream home” is gold, it must be satire].

      My brother just purchased a house - first thing he did was get a map and draw a circle with a 5km radius around the airport and said “I’m not living in there”. Strangely, he doesn’t have an issue with aircraft noise. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence, not the result of careful planning.

      “I paid good money for my house ” - that’s right, a house under flight path. You can’t really be that naïve. You are getting exactly what you paid for.

      As for your “right to enjoyment’ argument (and ignoring the fact that you knew that planes would be making noise before you purchased the place), what about the rights purchased by airlines to land at the airport during the specified hours - you want to take away their rights that they have paid for how is that any different? They paid good money for those rights - and they had the presence of mind to ensure the times that they would be able to exercise those rights.

    • Sara says:

      09:25am | 24/02/11

      I’ve lived under flight paths, next to train lines, and on main roads. After a few weeks, I always found that the noise became quite soothing. Then, its the quiet times that get you, and you start to hear things that aren’t there… *giggles maniacally*

    • Shaun says:

      11:32am | 24/02/11

      I recently moved into a townhouse under the Melbourne flightpath and you know what…I actually enjoy the sound. I must be a freak.

      (Also, I’m fairly sure this is a massive joke smile)

    • pookemon says:

      12:19pm | 24/02/11

      Ah - a tard has popped their head up.  My brother-in-law is one of these tards.  Compains about the noise from the local airport where pilots train until 11pm at night.  The airport has been there since the late 20’s/early 30’s (his Grandfather flew there during WWII) - but he complains none-the-less.

      Moron!

    • the castle says:

      01:17pm | 24/02/11

      you’re dreamin! put iti the pool room love. . . .

    • J says:

      07:48pm | 24/02/11

      agree with you Honestly!!! if you knew when you bought it why the hell are you whinging???

    • Pilby says:

      09:23am | 25/02/11

      I lived under a flight path for years near an airforce base. Planes at all hours.  You just need to get used to the noise. I remember having some relatives come for a visit and being told it was “impossible to sleep” after a very relaxing 8 hours. A 12 hour ban is not only unreasonable it is stupidity,  especially someone who purchases a house knowing full well it is a mile from an airport then expects the airport to panders to their anxieties.

    • Shaddow says:

      12:50pm | 25/02/11

      I hope your pulling someone’s leg but I’ve seen plenty of people buy homes next to our airport and then within a few months complain none stop about noise. Well hello you bought near an airport. I found it even better when the same people living under military jets fighter paths don’t want a car club to build a race track which is further away from them then the airport cause it would be to noisy?? Huh??

    • Lyle says:

      08:52am | 26/02/11

      the airport was there before you brought the house, you know that there is a flight part there, so why buy!!!

    • Edward James says:

      07:58am | 24/02/11

      Not all complaints are about noise. Mr.Tin. I do apologize for overlooking the humor I read in your by line.  I have made a few formal complaints in the last few years. My most important relates to the very ordinary formal process surrounding the deaths of five people in a ditch at the bottom of Piles Creek, Somersby, NSW. After my father came under attach from his local council. While his issues remain to be properly addressed. I discovered once I stood up to complain effectively so to speak. My view of other political / civic issues which needed to be addressed and should concern all who pay tax and rates toward infrastructure and governance. If they were aware these issues were being ignored by those whom they give their votes to in trust.  I sat through the Coroners inquiry and I listened to council management tell the Coroner the council had no knowledge or experience with the use or application of concrete to protect the structural integrity of the steel pipes which ran beneath old Highway ten. In fact they tried to blame the RTA for not telling them what needed to be done. Forget the fact council had been inspecting not one but two culverts under their care twice each year for eight years, Culvert pipes which had concrete used to protect them when placed by the DMR in 1962 and replaced at least once in the time since . My formal complaints to the first law officer John Hatzistergos and Minister for the Central Coast John Robertson have been often published and widely circulated. They are certainly not defamatory unless you count the time I posed the question; perhaps the Coroner was happy to be misled? The words we can use to identify most of these sorts of issues are nonfeasance, misfeasance, and malfeasance. Additionally I like to use the term misgovernance when I identify for my readers in print what so many of our politicians Local, State and Federal, like to identify as their work product.  I stand up in public handing out my own work product. Which I pay to run in our local papers and freely supply to the Punch, Telegraph, Express Advocate, and TV with every intention of exposing our lazy inept government and the politicians who inhabit the political/civic process, from time to time.    http://bit.ly/EJ_PNewsAds
      Some of my complaints have received a run in main stream media. But it is clear to me that members of my Central Coast Community need more than my Sisyphean efforts to help them. Edward James 0243419140

    • j says:

      07:53pm | 24/02/11

      do you realize your post makes absolutely no sense? seriously I read your post 3 times and still dont know what your trying to say….

    • Ayres Rock says:

      09:01pm | 24/02/11

      Yer taking the piss, surely!

    • Edward James says:

      05:42am | 25/02/11

      Try the link Ayers Rock http://bit.ly/ej_pnewsads I guess I have too much information in the one post a bit like too much volume perhaps. @ J I am writing about the same serious issues which I pay good money to publish in full page ads in every edition of our two local papers on the Central Coast.  The Peninsula News and the Gosford Central Community News.  A growing number of my readers understand what I am writing about because more and more people take papers from me at the train station. Cheers Edward James 0243419140

    • Edward James says:

      08:12am | 24/02/11

      Once upon a time a long time ago housing under the airport noise was cheaper to access.So young people starting out had an affordable option if their work especially trades people required they live close by or in the City to get work. Those who were successful could then move out and up the social scale. Then politicians got involved, Telling voters we will move the flight path just vote us in. With the huge increase in flight numbers it was inevitable another runway and another flight path was needed. Then the bright idea of the State paying to sound proof houses subject to vote changing noise happened. Followed quickly by the State mandating sound proofing on all new housed beneath the flight path driving the price up. What actually happened is politicians got involved and the status quo was dismantled.  The idea of finding entry level housing in the city with a yard was wiped out by almost mindless government intervention. Edward James

    • Adele says:

      08:19am | 24/02/11

      Lol @ Honestly… I think Rob was being a loltroll. Or perhaps not, and the lol is on me.

    • gkm says:

      08:22am | 24/02/11

      I think we should introduce planning laws that set aside tracts of land for whinger communities. People who are chronic complainants can live there and whinge and b*tch about eachother to their hearts content, leaving the rest of us to get on with our lives.

    • Markus says:

      11:12am | 24/02/11

      I hear there is a small batch of relatively unused land spanning from Perth to Sydney.
      If that is insufficient, Australia also owns a large portion of Antarctica? I hear the local penguin populations have a policy in place that ensures for 6 months of the year there is no sqwarking after sundown. I thought that was very considerate of them.

    • BT says:

      08:23am | 24/02/11

      I was woken up today by yet another renovator with a chainsaw so I totally disagree with this article. Many times we have been woken up at 6.30am by the high pitched lunatic screams of the child that lives behind us who seriously needs assessment. When another neighbour of ours approached the mother she wasn’t even aware that the nutter was out in the yard, and when I told him to knock it off he totally ignored me, and two other neighbours. Kids today are overstimulated by parents believing that they need entertainment every second of the day, instead of teaching them patience and consideration for others.
      But my biggest bugbear are the smug renovators. Why isn’t there a limit to the number of renovations that can be done in a certain area per year? It seems as soon as one finishes inflicting their noise on their neighbours the next starts up with their unneccesarily loud power tools. It’s like living in a construction zone. We pay a lot for our place on the Lower North Shore of Sydney. Why should I move to escape the noise simply because Mrs Smith wants a new extension because she saw Mrs Jones get one last week?
      There’s a brilliant movie called Noise that stars TIm Robbins that pretty much sums up how I feel. He wants to listen to the beauty of his wife play the cello but she is constantly interrupted by alarms etc. He goes on a rampage of cutting everyone’s alarm systems off all around the city and various other vigilante style acts because the city has become so hostile an environment to live in with all the chaos.
      B@$t@rd with the chainsaw is at it again. Ugh!

    • Zoe says:

      09:34am | 24/02/11

      My husband works shifts. He can sleep through just about anything. Lawnmowers, vacuums, Jehovahs, dogs etc ... BUT not chainsaws!!!! We used to live in a very built up area - on the edge of a housing trust area -  When you get a lot of people who dont work in one area it gets very noisy. Parties, music, laughter etc is fine. I can sleep through that. But our neighbours had drunken domestics at all hours. The sound of smashing is not easy to sleep through. After those nights I often found the v8 Chev took a very long time and lots of reving to warm it up at 6.30am in the morning before work! Glad to get out of there.

    • sheamas says:

      02:39pm | 24/02/11

      I’m sorry, but you cant live in suburbs where there is inherently more people and then complain about such things.  If you dont want any noise around you then move out to the sticks.  The only noise you will have to put up with out there is the stupid kookaburras that laugh at your stupidity…

    • BT says:

      03:07pm | 24/02/11

      Sheamus, so then I can be a burden on you and the rest of the taxpayers because I can’t find a job out there? Great logic but a bit impractical pal. There is no good reason why everyone has to put up with the few selfish ones who continuously make noise. People like you are a prime example.

    • zoe says:

      03:13pm | 24/02/11

      Wow BT I can understand your annoyance with the chainsaw but as for your rant against the kid and calling it a nutter and being over stimulated did you ever think that maybe he’s autistic and if that’s the case maybe yelling at him to stop the noise was not the best idea?

    • BT says:

      03:56pm | 24/02/11

      zoe, the kid isn’t autistic, it’s just very poor parenting with no discipline. And it isn’t just me that has said he is a nightmare. He is best friends with another neighbours kid and even that neighbour says he can’t be controlled and won’t listen to her in her own home when he comes over to play.
      I didn’t yell at him, I was polite to him and he rudely ignored me and also mocked another neighbour when told to stop the yelling at 6.30am on a Saturday morning. Believe me, he’s a brat and I’m not making any apologies for saying that. None of the other kids in the neighbourhood behave like this one, and just like the rest of the population, some are just nutters pure and simple.

    • j says:

      08:01pm | 24/02/11

      People can renovate whenever they want. they own their home too you know and I seriously have trouble believing that EVERY person in hearing range of your home renovates constantly. People renovate maybe every ten years if they are lucky, if everyone in your hearing distance renovates one after the other its would take ten years, get a grip

    • Pilby says:

      09:32am | 25/02/11

      Personally I hate cello music and would have had it confiscated if I were her neighbour. How Dare She!!!

    • BennyT says:

      12:18am | 26/02/11

      At least they should have reasonable hours to limit renovation noise.I work nights and the other day workers started using a jackhammer in the house next door at 6.30am.I had only had 1hour sleep when they started.

    • Complaint-lodger says:

      08:37am | 24/02/11

      I’ve complained to the police about noise before. 
      It was a Friday night and I had an exam on Saturday (yes it does happen at some universities).  I even heard the booing when the police told them to be quite.
      Perhaps I should have soundproofed my house so that I could get some much needed sleep before an exam worth 50% of my course.

      I also complained when some lady kept barping the horn on her car as she drove past our house every morning and night (don’t ask why I don’t know).  It went on for almost a year, before the police told her to stop it.

    • vince says:

      09:32am | 24/02/11

      My gf does this to her cat when it’s sunbaking outside her front door when she parks the par. I cringe when she does it beacuse the houses are so close together and it’s annoying as s@#$. She’s done it less and less since we’ve been together though so I think I’m helping the situation lol

    • Stephy says:

      10:35am | 24/02/11

      I wish people who blasted horns in front of my house could come in and resettle the baby after he wakes screaming from the shock. Maybe then they wouldn’t do it all the time!!

    • KH says:

      12:29pm | 24/02/11

      In Victoria, it is illegal to use the horn on your car unless you are warning other road uses or animals of your approach, or its your car alarm.  In other words, tooting the horn at your cat, or because you are saying goodbye to someone, is in fact illegal.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      01:26pm | 24/02/11

      KH - She is probably warning her cat of her approach smile

    • Swampy says:

      03:22pm | 24/02/11

      @ KH, it’s illegal in NSW too, but unfortunately it’s not a well enforced law.

    • kim says:

      08:38am | 24/02/11

      The noisemakers are the ones who should soundproof their homes so that the rest of us don’t have to hear their noise!

      My next door neighbour is a drunk who likes to blast his music day and night.  Now I don’t mind listening to music but I shouldn’t have to listen to his music and I shouldn’t be kept awake by it.  A bit of courtesy for ones neighbours isn’t too much to expect is it?

    • Zoe says:

      10:20am | 24/02/11

      Yep, the weekend partys ok but if you live next to someone who doesnt work or have any use for a clock it can get very annoying. Especially if they play the same crap music over and over as drunks tend to do. I know someone who had the police called because she mowed the lawn at 7.30pm on a Saturday during datlight savings. It was in the high 30s for several days, so she just waited for it to cool down. The same guy loads his ute every morning at 6am with equiptment loud enough to wake the whole street. He doesnt consider that as noise though. He also uses power tools constantly but because its within certain hours its ok. Living near him wore a lot of people down.

    • brendan says:

      08:41am | 24/02/11

      Looking at Jason’s photo, I expect he’s under 35.

      I was once Jason.  Live and let live man.  Your noise is my music.  Can’t we all just get along?

      Now, a 38 year old home owner, I have become what I despised. 

      I’m the guy writing to the Authorities demanding they crack down on people doing 80 km/h in the school zone,  objecting to eight single bedroom units going up where two nice free stading houses used to be and getting into shouting matches with the owner of that damn pit bull down the street.

      We pick our sides based on self interest and narrow perceptions.  But times change and make hypocrites of all of us. smile

    • Gavin says:

      11:16am | 24/02/11

      So, you’re objecting to a structure being built to house 8 households where 2 waste-of-space houses which housed 2 households use to be. So even though people need somewhere to live, you can’t bear to part with two houses that don’t even belong to you. Instead of writing complaints, you should probably outlay your energy and false sense of entitlement towards building a time machine to take you back your blissful days gone by.

    • Brendan says:

      03:55pm | 24/02/11

      As I said:  Once upon a time I was in the trenches, now I’m on the battlements.  Either way I fight for my side.

      Hypocrite? Absolutely!

    • JR says:

      08:47am | 24/02/11

      1. You never wrote to the library.
      2. When being satirical, try to be good at it.
      3. You owe me two minutes of my life.

    • AntiJam says:

      09:13am | 24/02/11

      I have written only one noise complaint, to the a$$hole neighbours who held a jam session at 3am on Monday night / Tuesday morning. I advised that they kept their day jobs. Worst. Music. Ever.

      That said, Police got called to the Australia day party that a group of uni students held at the pool in our complex. I felt really sorry for them. They were just having a swim and listening to the radio. No harm in that…

      Where does one draw the bounds?

    • HappyCynic says:

      10:03am | 24/02/11

      I’ve never written a noise complaint in spite of living in units for the past 12 years.

      I have however gone downstairs (or upstairs depending on where the noise is coming from) and asked politely if my noisy neighbours would mind keeping the noise down a bit.

      A funny thing happened - they obliged, even apologized and one even offered a beer the next day.

    • James1 says:

      11:00am | 24/02/11

      HappyCynic,

      Our neighbours upstairs are the most intimidating goth looking wierdos in perhaps the entire country, if not the world.  They all play in heavy metal bands, and one even plays the bass.  Every time they make too much noise, we simply ask them politely to turn it down, and they always do, apologising profusely.  It is amazing what simply asking can acheive, isn’t it?

      If the old lady I mention below had simply asked politely for us to take our bins in ASAP, we would indeed have obliged.  What we didn’t like was her demanding we do it immediately and abusing us when we said we were at work from 9am to 6pm on weekdays, saying that “was no excuse for being lazy about our bins”.

    • Kate says:

      12:05pm | 24/02/11

      @HappyCynic, I’ve lived in apartments for years too.

      I’ve called in noise complaints twice - I had some neighbours who liked to have parties at 2am on Monday and Tuesday mornings. I’m talking doof doof music so loud that my walls were vibrating - and their apartment wasn’t even next door to me!
      I would have asked them to keep it down in person, but when you live in a large building, it’s hard to be certain where the noise is coming from.
      Also, forgive me for being a wuss, but I’m a girl in my early 20s. I really didn’t fancy the idea of going up to an apartment filled with loud, extremely drunk men and trying to reason with them.

      I recently moved to a new apartment building and everyone is extremely courteous. There’s the occasional late night gathering on a Friday or Saturday, but everyone seems to respect each other’s need for sleep and acknowledge that most people have to work and don’t want to be disturbed by a bunch of dickheads in the middle of the night. It’s bliss.

    • Mel says:

      04:55pm | 24/02/11

      Happy Cynic, I used to live in an apartment building where the guy above us used to play horrible music really loudly.  Sometimes it was on the weekend, sometimes it wasn’t.  We tried knocking on his door and asking him to turn it down.  We also tried writing a note to ask him to be considerate.  It never worked.  When my flat mate went up there once to ask him to turn the noise turn and he pushed her and abused her in response we stopped being so nice and started calling the police instead.  I lost count of how mant times we called the police on him, but he didn’t stop playing his music loudly.  Some people are just inconsiderate.

    • Meggles says:

      09:14am | 24/02/11

      Suck it up people - noise is a part of life, and an intergral part of Sydney-life.
      As for Jason’s article, the fact it that Australia has become a country of whingy-whiney sookie la-la’s.  For those of you who use the phrase “Common Sense” but it has now been deemed that a swear word - apparently it’s not common to everyone.
      However, the article brings a great question to the fore - how much is too much complaining?  At what point do we suck it up?  When is it appropriate to let it be?

    • Pft says:

      01:48pm | 24/02/11

      good on you meggles, heaven forbid people would like to sleep at night or have their house NOT smell like stale petrol or filled with acrid rubber smoke. Try living next to the bogans that are called people next to me and you might change your tune

    • Johnno says:

      09:23am | 24/02/11

      We are pretty tolerant around here. Noisy, unregisted bikes, go-karts, quad-bikes etc were tolerated until some genius decided to play Grand Prix around the streets on his quad-bike at 3AM.
      Police moved in, got them all, over a period of days. One antisocial household even up and left.
      Nice and quiet now.

    • Zoe says:

      10:06am | 24/02/11

      We dont have a police station in our town. The closest is 15km away and is often closed at night so the next closest is about 50km away. So complaining about noise can be a complete waste of time.  Its good because if theres a party anywhere in town you can hear it if you go outside. If you like the people you just go crash it. There are people in their 60s down the road who regularly have parties. Country music.  And loud. but good on them. They never complain about trailbikes which kids start riding as soon as they can walk around here. Police have been out now and then, just basically tell them not to ride on the roads. Only kids who get in trouble are the ones without, helmet, boots, proper pants etc. They wouldnt have a hope of catching the older ones anyway, so being friendly works well and the majority listen.

    • Reg says:

      09:37am | 24/02/11

      I must protest at this painful syntax, though I too suffer from the same short-coming. Namely, “Yours in a never-ending stream of complaints and frustrated rage,” 

      Apart from the infinite exaggeration about your stream, if your rage had been frustrated it would have been dissipated, so it would seem you intend to imply that your rage is actually sourced from the frustration of servitude and is therefore self-inflicted.

      Ah for the sound of rain on the metal roof and the integrated noise of fifteen hundred school children playing at 200 metres, or rather 202 yards, since the end of this gentle murmur heralded the loud playing of the Colonel Boggie March at neighbourhood shattering levels, complete with 78 rpm scratches of about the same intensity as the gallant Royal Bandsmen’s music.

      The silence that extended from the sudden end of that March was only interrupted by the occassional loud tutorial exclamation or the whack of a cane, or the unison, “YES SIR” until 3.30pm, when suddenly the hordes were turned loose on the street to fight over each other’s bikes until the Ghost Car and its uniformed contents arrived to quell the riot. 

      The Ghost Car was a white Dodge utility fitted with the looming technology of a speaker on the front. See what happens when the serfs are allowed to read books or fit their own speakers. Dreadfully shortsighted of Bob Menzies, he should have nipped it all in the bud.

      Then there’s the dog next door that barks all the time. I’m not game to complain to the council because I’m sure the neighbour would think it was me. Anyhow no matter who complains about it, I’m sure he still thinks it’s me and if I asked him whether he’d had any complaints he’d think I was being sneaky. So I just bear it.

    • Duane says:

      09:42am | 24/02/11

      What have I just read?  I’m hoping it’s not actually a piece of work that has been rewarded with financial recompense.  What a rambling, ill-written, nonsensical pile of ‘words’... it seems like you just wrote down every thought that came out of your head with absolutely no filter. 

      Taking one ill-conceived example of a person making a complaint (which may have been justified if we had been given entire story rather than just conjecture) and then extrapolating that into a wild rant, using hyperbole and really quite banal humour. 

      That aside your hypocrisy is really infuriating… people should have the freedom to make noise, but other people, who you deem as whingers, shouldn’t have the right to voice the fact they are being affected by other people’s actions. But why stop at noise pollution…?  Where do your arbitrary rules begin and end?  Should shop keepers just put up with someone stealing a 5 cent lolly? I agree that people should be allowed to do as they like - as long as it doesn’t adversely affect other people… and that rule applies to this piece of ‘journalism’.

      The only arguments this piece manages to emphasise is that print journalism is dead.  I can’t believe there are plans afoot to make us pay for such drivel.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      10:16am | 24/02/11

      Wow. Forget to take your sense of humour pill this morning?

    • Reg says:

      10:42am | 24/02/11

      Oh Duanneeee, it’s an exercise in making a story from nothing as is required of all budding journalists, just as you have.

      Of far greater concern to me is the “jeopardy of verbal disparity.”  And careful with your use of who and whom to, I can get really huffie over misuse such as that. Then there are those who write exhaustive inputs but say noting, they’re nearly as bad as the inane one liners from NG. smile

    • Duff says:

      11:15am | 24/02/11

      @LBB - yes, obviously the article is a bit tongue and cheek.  But there is a serious side to this, because the alternative to making a “complaint” is confrontation.  And in that regard the Police ask, over and over, that we leave it to them to sort this stuff out.  Why?  Because they know that very bad things can happen when neighbours confront each other in the dark of night, especially when there is alcohol involved.  Do you remember the horrible story in Sydney about the elderly man who asked his neighbour to stop watering his lawn during water restrictions?  The younger guy literally beat him to death.  Confrontation can result in violence, and this is why we have a system in place for allowing the authorities to deal with issues like excessive noise.

    • Barry The Hatchet says:

      11:24am | 24/02/11

      @LauraBoBaura. No, Duane is correct. The article is a nonsensical pile of words.

      And Mr Tin is as hypocritical as Duane suggests. You are free to make noise, just as your neighbors are free to complain about it if they are breaking the rules. 

      Others have commented on the demise of common sense. I lament the demise of common courtesy.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      11:50am | 24/02/11

      There is a line between genuine concerns & just being a dick though. I have no problem with my neighbours asking me to turn my music down if it is disturbing them, & I will always apologise & comply,  but I DO have a problem with the lady next door calling the real estate agent because my BACK (fully fenced) lawn hadn’t been mowed in a couple of weeks, where is the common courtesy in that Barry?

      Duff - that was a terrible story, but it is a very extreme example of what could potentially happen. How often do people get beaten to death for asking their neighbours politely to not water their lawn, or turn their music down?

      The writer is not saying that all complaints are baseless & shold be ignored, just the really tedious and annoying ones.

    • Matt says:

      11:54am | 24/02/11

      Agreed Duane..

    • Duane says:

      01:01am | 25/02/11

      Laura… I would have to be medicated to find this amusing… It’s lazy, easy and undergraduate at best.

    • vic says:

      09:42am | 24/02/11

      Do what you want after 7am and before 11:30pm. After that, shut the hell up. That’s fair. Obviously if someone is having a one-off party or something there are exceptions, but I think as a general rule those hours are fair to everyone. That little thing called respect seems to have taken a back seat to self centred arrogance lately.

    • Zoe says:

      10:32am | 24/02/11

      Fair for everyone except shift workers! Just kidding,  I know thats their problem and thats why they get paid extra. (remember that to all those who want to keep taxing middle income earners more and more!) Most people are pretty considerate if they know the neighbour works shifts or have a child which naps during the day. Although a friend had a neighbour who got a chainsaw out every time he wanted to put wood on the fire. Instead of cutting a couple of days worth at a time he’d cut several times a day, making kids naps very difficult. What is it with chainsaws? She never complained cos at the end of the day you still have to live near them. Nothing worse than a neighbourhood war.

    • Reg says:

      11:25am | 24/02/11

      You know double glazing may be expensive but in cold climates it is essential and for shift workers it serves a triple purpose.  Heat in or out and noises as well. A double brick house with double glazing under the flight path may in fact be one of Rockdales real estate secrets.

      And how about the mainline in North Sydney, surely there is double glazing around the rise near ... ???  Beecroft, P. Hills ???  where the triple headers turn it on at 3 in the morning. In fact the airlines could subsidize double glazing, do away with the curfew and party on day and night. So unless you’ve got double glazing, stop complaining.

    • ShutTheHellUp says:

      09:49am | 24/02/11

      The best solution I’ve found to stop neighbours playing loud music late at night is to pull the circuit breakers from their power box when they’re not home, then padlock the power box. Asshats.

      Seriously, playing loud music at night in an urban area is all well and good when you’re a 21 year old party animal with little to no responsibilities in life. However, when you get older and have a responsible job, kids, pets, domestic duties and a requirement to be awake between 5am and midnight every day to fit everything in, you tend to get pissed at people overstepping the mark. The law states that noise should not be audible outside your premises after 10pm. So I am completely within my rights to call the cops.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      10:14am | 24/02/11

      Damn whippersnappers & their boom boxes.
      Technically they could have you for trespassing & I’m preeeetty sure pulling someone’s circuit breakers & padlocking their power box would be illegal aswell.
      They are also completely within their rights to call the cops.

    • James1 says:

      11:03am | 24/02/11

      The question is, did you talk to your neighbours and ask politely before calling the police?

    • jaynie says:

      11:48am | 24/02/11

      HAHAHAH i love it! Fav part is the padlock LOL

    • Blerg says:

      12:22pm | 24/02/11

      @ Shutthehellup -Of course its all well and good when you were a 21 year old party animal, and just becuase you are older now, does not mean that 21 year old party animals shouldn’t exist anymore. Whilst I dont agree with overstepping the mark, people should be more courteousB but when old people become hypocrites and say that young people these days have no respect these days *shakes fist for dramatic effect*, it really makes my blood boil!

      remember that life goes through cycles, and when you were my age, you were into your Elvis, and Beach Boys (all good music mind you) which I am positive your parents and neighbours thought was hideous and deplorable - so please do not start crying when I choose to play ministry of sound (that doof doof crap you all seem to hate) and sit on my balcony enjoying a wine and good friends.

    • sweeet says:

      12:59pm | 24/02/11

      @ShutTheHellUp

      That was you?

      Damnit. You owe me a hydroponic crop and three goldfish!.

    • ShutTheHellUp says:

      01:04pm | 24/02/11

      Well thanks Blerg. I’m actually a heavy metal guitarist in my thirties, not a purple-haired fart listening to Mantovani from the comfort of my wheelchair. Common courtesy and respect should have no upper or lower age limit.

    • Bazza says:

      09:51am | 24/02/11

      I’ve made noise complaints before relating to my upstairs neighbour. He would play music 24/7, and have loud arguments with the myriad visitors who came to him in the middle of the night.

      In close units like we’re living in, it’s down to community. If he was courteous about it, and tried to adjust just a little to our requests, then it wouldn’t have been a problem. Instead he just made it louder, despite us asking him to be considerate. Eventually the police were called. This still didn’t change his behaviour. Thankfully his lease wasn’t renewed and we now have a good neighbour who isn’t completely silent but is courteous.

      Heck, I know that I make noise with guests and the like, but it’s limited to the minority of times. I even buy my neighbour a sixpack of beer as an apology if I feel me and my guests were a little rowdy. That’s community.

    • Lachlan J says:

      09:51am | 24/02/11

      I have a neighbour who will complain about absolutely anything I do. I remember one night I was hanging with 3 of my mates one night (this was before 11pm), and one of them got an acoustic guitar out and starting playing (not loudly at all). The neighbour knocked on our door, then let slip a stream of abuse at us.

      We apologised profusely despite how rude she was about it, and immediately made sure were super quiet for the rest of the night. Even after we apologised and stopped all noise, she still rang the real estate agency that manages my house the next day to complain. She did the same when I had some friends over for my birthday, the only party I had had in my place all year.

      It’s gotten to the point where I simply can’t have more than 3 people over at a time for fear I’ll get kicked out of my home after a third noise complaint.

    • Chels says:

      01:07pm | 24/02/11

      Haha the lady upstairs from me rang our real estate to complain that either our airconditioner or beef jerky making (we do not make beef jerky) was ‘making her bed vibrate’ ... luckily they saw the funny/crazy side of it and let us know about the complaint but didn’t take it seriously. Your neighbour needs to get a grip.

    • Andrew says:

      09:59am | 24/02/11

      Part of the problem is we are losing the sense of community.

      Used to be that you knew your neighbours. Noise wasn’t a problem because either the neighbours were also at the party, they accepted it in good grace or they could talk to you and work out a solution.

    • Tim the Toolman says:

      10:08am | 24/02/11

      Only ever complained to the police once about noise…4am on a Sunday morning, the feral teenager who lived with his parents behind our house came home with about twenty of his friends.  Cue to banging on their front door screaming to be let in, followed then by music being cranked up and all of his female friends screaming in high pitched voices when they’re splashed from water in the pool.  Cue my dog now barking due to the excessive activity at an odd hour up against our back fence and there was no chance for sleep.  Called the cops, and twenty minutes later there was some yelling, and then silence.  I don’t care most of the time, but 4am is a bit much.  Mostly, it was the screaming…I can sleep through loud music, and won’t complain, but the screaming is impossible to sleep through.

    • Lee says:

      11:08am | 24/02/11

      @ Tim this is a normal weekend (FRI/SAT/SUN) for my neighbours, except when we call the cops (especially whilst they are having a 28 hour party) the neighbours just come out the front and scream abuse at our house at 3am.

    • Mark says:

      10:18am | 24/02/11

      I used to live next-door to constant complainers… My favourite two complaints:
      “you are washing your dishes too late at night”
      “someone in your house is coughing too loudly”
      GET A GRIP…..!

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      10:50am | 24/02/11

      I got ‘Are you aware that your partner snores quite loudly’... shit, no, I wasn’t aware of that at all.

    • Kate says:

      12:11pm | 24/02/11

      Haha, washing your dishes! The horror!

      My favourite was the neighbours I had growing up. They had two dogs and never walked them, so they would start barking at 6am and continue until 9pm when the neighbours came home. Of course, when the neighbours got home, the dogs shut up. My parents tried to politely discuss the noise with them and got told to f*** off.

      One weekend morning, my sister and I got up at 8am and decided to play outside. These neighbours came around after about five minutes, banged on the door and abused my parents because “we can hear your children playing and it’s annoying us and you really should be keeping them inside”.

      Mum said “we’ll keep them inside when you do the same with your dogs” and slammed the door. It was brilliant.

    • James1 says:

      10:52am | 24/02/11

      As our population continues to age, the complaining is set to get far, far worse.

      The old lady across the road from our apartment block hates apartments, and apartment dwellers, and blames us for every evil imaginable.  She actually has complained (several times) that some of us leave our bins out for up to 12 hours after the binman comes.  Apparently it affects the liveability of her government subsidised house.  I guess, being a lifelong pensioner, she doesn’t understand the need to work during the day so we can pay tax to subsidise her housing and support her lifestyle, and that this results in an inability to take a bin in as soon as it is empty.

      As a form of protest, everyone in our block leaves their bin on the curb all week now.  She moves them, and we put them back.  It is a source of constant mirth for all of us.

    • redvixen says:

      01:04pm | 24/02/11

      The other day when I got home from work it was storming (driving rain/thunder/lightning) so I decided that I wouldn’t walk the 30 metres (I live on a battle-axe block) and get completely drenched just to bring my bin in.  Although the storm stopped I promptly forgot that they were still out there.  When I went to work the next morning my neighbour, who doesn’t like us, had moved them off the footpath and tucked them against the fence on my driveway.  So while he thinks his 3 tonne truck isn’t an eyesore parked outside his house, my bin offends him enough to move it!  What’s that about?

    • JimmyMac says:

      02:08pm | 24/02/11

      @redvixen
      You forgot to mention that when he moved the bins he put them in the garden that he had attacked with a whipper-snipper a couple of days before, right on top of the few plants he hadn’t destroyed.  And, of course, there is the fact that his poor driving skills has meant that the grass between our driveways has turned into a big mud hole by said 3 tonne truck.

    • Stephen Fitzpatrick says:

      11:06am | 24/02/11

      Errr guys I’m pretty sure Jason isn’t talking about legitimate complaints regarding 3am jam sessions and scream teenage girls at 4am. And sure if a brand new club for 1200 people is built on your street I’m sure you have a case.

      But how often does that happen? Far more likly is the pub that’s existed for twenty years being forced to close it’s beer garden at 8pm becuase of complaint’s from the appartment building a block away with the paint that’s still drying.

      I would quite like an appartment in the city. Maybe if the whingers sell up and move out to the suburbs it would depress the prices enough so that I could afford one.

    • Tim the Toolman says:

      11:07am | 25/02/11

      “I would quite like an appartment in the city.”

      I moved into the city to avoid the whingers….trust me, the worst ones are in the suburbs.  I suspect it’s because the life they were sold as being “the dream” isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, with long travel times, dissatisying jobs, all your spare time spent fixing/cleaning the new 40 square house etc….  I much prefer the city..people are so much more friendly and relaxed.

    • nankypoo says:

      11:08am | 24/02/11

      A mate of mine in Darwin had a neighbour complain about the noise “his” frogs made at night.

    • Sam says:

      11:28am | 24/02/11

      Damn those noisy frog!

    • Alicia says:

      12:43pm | 24/02/11

      LMAO. I didn’t realise the frogs in my yard were my responsibility. I’ll be having a chat with them when I get home tonight for sure!

    • Reg says:

      02:51pm | 24/02/11

      Cane-toads swear something terrible!

    • hermes says:

      08:52pm | 24/02/11

      i moved to the north coast of nsw from sa, and when i first heard green tree frogs, thought they were rude neighbours using power tools at all hours of the night, i used to pace up and down the footpath, trying to identify the culprit!!

    • Patrick says:

      11:10am | 24/02/11

      I love the one that buy in a NEW apartment complex that has been built right next door to an old, well established LIVE music venue. The new residents then start to complain about the loud music, but then complain when there are no longer any good venues in which they can boast about living near.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      11:54am | 24/02/11

      Annandale?

    • Had enough says:

      11:20am | 24/02/11

      Our neighbour plays their music with heavy bass so loud it shakes all the windows in our house. Why do they need to play it so loud? its not even for a party.

      Next time it happens, they are going to get a brick through their window.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      12:04pm | 24/02/11

      Before you go vandalising their property - have you asked them to turn it down?

    • Markus says:

      12:40pm | 24/02/11

      Or you could at least try mentioning it to them first?
      A lot of people are actually unaware that bass travels at a lower frequency so is more audible up to ten metres away than it is right next to the source.
      It is entirely possible they cannot even hear the bass noise you are experiencing.

    • KH says:

      12:45pm | 24/02/11

      Asking doesn’t always work.  But you don’t want to be charged with criminal damage - go for something more subtle - I had one in my building - up all night playing loud music.  Despite several requests to lower the noise level, he insisted on playing the crappy music at all hours.  He didn’t appear to have any job, and seemed to be at home sleeping most of the day.  One morning on the way to work at 7.30, I went up there and banged on the door until he answered it - half asleep, dressed in pyjama pants.  I said sorry, did I wake you?  He said yes.  I said ‘good then you know how it feels.  Annoying, isn’t it?’.
      Every morning at some random time like 6.30, 7, and soemtimes at 9 or 10, I or my neighbours would go up there and wake him up every day, sometimes several times in a morning, until he finally got the hint.  Bwahahaha

    • Had enough says:

      12:52pm | 24/02/11

      They have it up so loud, that you can hear and feel the bass very clearly 3 houses away. they are rude and are not interested in hearing us at our attempts to politely get them to turn it down. the police are no good either. but i guess its all my fault because im a whinger. we will probably have to move.

    • Had enough says:

      01:20pm | 24/02/11

      We’ve been putting up with this 4-5 days a week for 2 years. we are tired of it. god forbid if we had a child, it would never get to sleep. i cant even hear the music, just the constant thumping like we’re living under an airport. it goes on at all times of the day and night. once we had a party and their music was drowning ours out.

      We can feel the vibrations of their massive subwoofer 200 meters down the road.

      the cops are useless, the council doesnt care. we have to take this into our own hands. our other neighbours agree.

      i would cheer at their funeral.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      01:21pm | 24/02/11

      Well if you’ve asked them & called the police, these people are obviously just dicks. I was just enquiring as to whether you have asked them or not, and you have, so go forth & brick their windows wink I probably would too.

    • Lee says:

      01:44pm | 24/02/11

      @ Had enough, you must have the same neighbours as us.

    • Kate says:

      02:35pm | 24/02/11

      @KH, good move. I used to wait until the morning after one of my dickhead neighbours’ loud doof doof music parties and then decide I really should do some vacuuming before work.

    • john doe says:

      11:24am | 24/02/11

      you know whats a great game - next time the yobs down the street throw an all nighter and keep you awake, fire up the mower, get out the whipper snipper, flushout the boats motor….anything just to remind the little tools that the rest of us dont keep their hours.

      on the topic at hand tho - if you move next to a racetrack, dont complain about the noise. if you buy a flat above a nightclub or pub - dont complain about the noise. if you live next to a school - dont complain about the noise. stop being a bastard.

    • the Phantom says:

      11:33am | 24/02/11

      Who is Jason Tin? I’m intrigued to know more about this strapping lad and his strikingly bold views.

    • jaynie says:

      11:41am | 24/02/11

      i live next to domestic airport and understand completely!
      but what ticks me off (other than a late arriving Qantas plane coming in from Melb @ 11:30pm when curfew is on already) is the stupid choppers that hover around the city at 3-4am .... it’s loud, it’s annoying!

    • Alicia says:

      12:45pm | 24/02/11

      Perhaps you should consider moving to the middle of nowhere, where helicopters and airports are scarce?

      Did you expect the late arriving plane to hover in the sky until curfew was over?

    • J says:

      10:10am | 25/02/11

      jaynie..  I am a rescue helicopter pilot, and it’s people like you who annoy me the most!!

      It’s an AIRPORT, RESCUE and POLICE helicopters operate out of that AIRPORT to save peoples’ lives!!  I’m prettty sure that the domestic AIRPORT was in its’ current position decades before you moved into your house.

      I bet that a loud/noisy rescue helicopter would be a welcomed sight if you wrapped your car around a tree on a country road at 3am in the morning!

      GET OVER IT OR MOVE AWAY!!

    • CB66 says:

      02:25pm | 25/02/11

      I live near a hospital, and periodically helicopters are over head, quite loud, at less than desirable times of the day; however, if it does wake, my first thoughts are of the person or people they are ferrying - for it must be serious if they are using the choppers.

    • Mouse says:

      09:32am | 28/02/11

      Right on J!! I know this is not quite the same as a lot of posts here but it is relevant.  I used to be an ambo and there was this area that, if we went near it, we had to turn the siren off because it used to upset the residents (sit with nose up in the air!). One night we got a Cat 1 call, sirens & lights going, we were coming up to the “forbidden zone” so off goes the siren. We got to the address and the woman there was hysterical. She said she heard the siren so knew help was on its way. Then the siren stopped and she thought that we weren’t coming any more! As you can imagine, she was extremely distraught. I no longer turned the siren off before reaching the scene…ever again.  Some people just have to learn that the world does not revolve around them.

    • Jaynie says:

      09:20pm | 16/03/11

      @ J
      i may be mistaken, but the choppers that operate at that early time of morning are not from the airport, its the ones hovering around the city CBD, i think it’s the special squads practising drills.
      I have nothing against rescue choppers, but fail to believe that EVERY night around the same time would be a ‘rescue’ mission!
      And yes, when I moved here I was quite aware that I lived next to an airport, but years ago wasn’t as bad as it is today because they changed the runways/ flight paths!

    • HB says:

      11:47am | 24/02/11

      We had an anonymous letter posted to us about a car that is not registered in QLD but is still registered in VIC.  In this letter they abused us and threatened to contact the police etc if we did not rectify the situation.  Due to their ingnorance they assumed that the car was ours but it is not and belongs to my parents.  Both our cars are registered in QLD as we live and own a property here.  My parents own a property in VIC and are itinerant and therefore do not live in any one place for a long time.  Had these people had the guts to speak to us directly we would have informed them of their mistake.  We reported their abuse of the postal system to the police who supported our claims.

    • Timothy says:

      12:24pm | 24/02/11

      That is a typical story to hear, and I do not mean this in support of what you have stated here, but quite the opposite.
      What makes you think that these days you can approach your neighbour and ask this question without having to expect some weirdo reaction?
      The way you wrote this makes it sound as though you do not feel responsible for your parents’ car, while at the same time you are looking after it. May we know if this was parked on the council strip perhaps? This is a common nuisance and prohibited. Many neighbourhoods have no concreted footpath so other than walking on the street, pedestrians are expected to walk on the council strip. Quite often, residents are arrogant enough to park their car right across it, or along side the street on the strip. This not only looks like in a slum, think of mums with prams who have to go around the car, off the kerb, back onto the kerb.
      “Had these people had the guts…” - you know what? I can fully understand that they avoided approaching you. I have done this many times in the past where people were disgustingly selfish with loud music, and all we ever got was abuse and worse from then on.
      “abuse of the postal system” is FUNNY - where is the abuse coming in? I also doubt that “the police supported your claims”.
      What kind of “abuse” was it, specifically?

    • HB says:

      12:56pm | 24/02/11

      Timothy- As my parents do not own a property in QLD but in VIC their car is registered as such. They are itinerant meaning that they do not reside in any one place but visit many states throughout the year (last year they spent only 10 weeks here in total).  The car was not parked illegally nor have they broken any law, as the police agreed, as the car is registered to the state where their property is owned.  I don’t believe that the postal service is to be used to send anonymous threatening letters.  If these people had asked why the car wasn’t registered here instead of asuming they knew the facts, the situation would have been explained.

    • Timothy says:

      11:49am | 24/02/11

      It is sickening me what arrogant and totally disrespectful attitudes many (it often seems: most) Aussies are displaying day in and day out. To make fun of people complaining about noise from dumb@ss pr*cks is even worse.
      We have been living in Australia for the past ten years and most of that time in QLD, but also in Sydney in three different suburbs. Of all our time here, we have not had one single problem with people showing utter disrespect for their neighbours, while we were in Sydney. However, no matter where we lived in QLD (5 addresses in 7 years) - EVERYWHERE we have had a few absolute pr*cks emitting their music and drunken dumb talk at any time of the day or night. What does anyone give the right to be noisy and play music at above moderate volume levels? NOTHING. Noone does have the right to do what ever they want, not in a public place and not at home, if it impacts on your neighbours. This has been getting out of control and the legislation that is in place to deal with this, is insufficient even thought the Police could work to the full extend of the power given to them, should they decide to turn up.
      That’s another issue. From our perspective, what we have experienced over the past seven years in particular, it is safe to say that this country, or at the very least this state is a paradise for bogans and lowlifes. So are you all saying the following things are normal:
      -Cranking up the volume with subwoofer, at levels that are comparable to Fortitude Valley Bars?
      -Driving around in cars that have a) illegally modified mufflers emitting extremely loud noise b) extremely loud music and bass, often the whole boot replaced with speakers so that you can hear the boom boom from 3 blocks away?
      -Yelling, loud laughter, drunken p*ss talk, swearing etc either outside or inside with all windows and doors open?

      If you all find this is acceptable and those complaining are just whingers, then YOU are the most brainless lowlife scumbags I have every encountered in my whole life of living in at least four countries on 3 continents. No I am not an old fart, I am just 40.

      We just want our peace and the comfort of knowing that when we get home, we can count on what should constitute a peaceful environment.
      It just so happens that most idiots turn out to be renting the place in question. There are laws in place. Their tenancy agreement also clearly states that they have to NOT interfere with the “quiet enjoyment of their neighbours”. They sign these standard terms.

      From my perspective, property managers and landlords need to be mandated by law to display a sign on every house that is rented out, that states the name and phone numbers of the rental agent or landlord. They should also be held accountable for not following through on complaints made about their tenants.

      To Jason Tin: I lived in Germany for most parts of my life. Did you know that some city councils over there have special taskforces dedicated to following up on noise complaints? They are very effective, they have to right to issue ON THE SPOT FINES to residents and they do.
      This is what Australia needs. I am still convinced the majority of Aussies are good, honest and peace loving people. But sometimes it feels as though most are falling in the lower socio demographics and/or brain dysfunctional type category.

      As for us, we will not stay here for much longer. We just had enough. Australia’s binge drinking culture, tall poppy syndrome and arrogant, disrespectful attitude is just getting too much. I fear this country has either taken a massive back step, or in fact never evolved much from the POM days of the first fleets.

      Enjoy your day.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      12:16pm | 24/02/11

      Sweet mother of god.
      Timothy: Do you think the following is okay -

      a) contacting the real estate agent because somebody’s BACK yard has not been mowed.
      b) contacting council because someone has not put their bins away.
      c) contacting the real estate agent & lodging a formal complaint about noise AFTER the occupant of the house had profusely aplogised & turned the music off.
      d) Abusing someone for smoking in their OWN backyard.

      These are the kind of things that we’re talking about, no one has a problem with GENUINE complaints, just ones that are ridiculous.

    • Lachlan J says:

      12:43pm | 24/02/11

      Something tells me you’ve never been to a party Timothy, or don’t get invited to them anymore.

      You’re right in saying that people shouldn’t have free reign to do whatever they want in their homes without thinking of others. If your neighbours are playing loud music/noises late at night all the time, then you have every right to dob them in.

      But this article was talking about the people who jump on the phone to the police/council/real estate agency the second their next door neighbour accidentally drops a handful of pins.

    • Sam says:

      02:14pm | 24/02/11

      Tim,

      Relax, I can almost see the blood vessels poping in your head from here.  With that level of anger and stress in your life you will be lucky to reach 50.

      Also, try to remember there are two side to every story.

    • Sam says:

      02:14pm | 24/02/11

      Tim,

      Relax, I can almost see the blood vessels poping in your head from here.  With that level of anger and stress in your life you will be lucky to reach 50.

      Also, try to remember there are two side to every story.

    • Anne71 says:

      12:50pm | 25/02/11

      Tim, I very much resent the implication that it’s renters that are responsible for constant loud noise. I rent at the moment and I can honestly say that I make less noise and am generally more considerate in that regard than most of the owner-occupiers around me.

    • Ripa says:

      12:07pm | 24/02/11

      According to councils noisy yappy barking dogs are not considered noise pollution, isnt that just spesh.
      Had a big problem with a neighbour and their dogs constant barking, only way i got them to take control of the matter was to use this guide,

      http://www.barkingdogs.net/persuadeneighbors.shtml

      took a while but they finally bothered to train themselves and the dog.

    • Move Fun Police says:

      12:11pm | 24/02/11

      Southern cross is my neighbour! why do people have a problem with parties on a Saturday night? one of my neighbours had the cops around at 5.30pm on a Saturday to a 21st and the only thing that was happening was there was a band playing and we are all on acerage WTF! anotther neighbour and i suspect it is southern cross has had the council aroung to my place i don’t know how many times because of my dog, only for the council to turn around to me after the forth time and say she is exibiting normal dog behaviour WTF! I think people move into an area and expect everyone to conform to their screwed up boring way to live life ways, I say fun police MOVE! I suspect this will not be the last time this issue pops up about, keep it up Jason.

    • Lachlan J says:

      12:49pm | 24/02/11

      It’s because there are so many old people out there that have absolutly no respect for youth, and stereotype them all the same way. Not saying they all do, and I certainly agree that people should respect their olders, but when people get on the phone as soon as they hear a bit of noise next door it’s obvious life hasn’t worked out too well for them.

      I had a elderly neighbour who would crank up country music in the early hours of Sunday morning. I never complained because I knew she was a lovely lady and I respected her right to listen to music. On the otherhand, my next door neighbour on the otherside, another elderly lady, would abuse me as soon as I had friends over.

      Why can’t we all just respect each other?

    • Nanny State says:

      12:23pm | 24/02/11

      So when there is thunderstorms, high winds all night or heavy rain keeping you awake who you gonna call?
      This nanny state called australia is turning the public into fun police, cant do this cant do that, you work all week and year, have a party on a saturday night, and fun police buy a box of earplugs and keep them next to your bed..

    • Timothy says:

      12:55pm | 24/02/11

      Your are one typical example of an arrogant person. You have no right to impose your noise and choice of music on your neighbours. If you need that kind of noise then save up and go to the pub or a licensed club.
      This is not about a “nanny state” but it seems you do very well need a nanny, as you have obviously not gotten past puberty.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      01:15pm | 24/02/11

      Timothy - are you saying that people have no right to have a party in their own home?

    • Markus says:

      01:31pm | 24/02/11

      Timothy, I’d love to go to the pub.
      Unfortunately it had its live music ceased due to noise complaints from the new residential building across the road.

    • Dave says:

      10:25pm | 24/02/11

      No Laura, you miss the point entirely as do most inconsiderate neighbours. Why should the quiet neighbour who is not inconveniencing anybody, have to put up with someone else’s noise in their own house. If you want to send yourself deaf with loud music, go buy a set of headphones, that way you enjoy your music and nobody else has to suffer. What right do you have to force your music into my house and property? That is the problem with people these days, it’s all about me and stuff everyone else. Exactly why this country is going down the gurgler!

    • Anne71 says:

      12:56pm | 25/02/11

      Nanny State, the thing about thunderstorms, high winds, heavy rain etc is that we know that eventually they will go away.
      Unfortunately, the same thing cannot be said for ignorant, inconsiderate bogans like you.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      11:52am | 28/02/11

      Dave - I am a very considerate neighbour actually, but that isn’t the point. The point is that if it isn’t an all night ordeal, or as long as it doesn’t happen every day, people should have the right to play their music loud or have a get together, once in a while.

    • Markus says:

      12:27pm | 24/02/11

      I know this is advice that whingers don’t want to hear, but most noise issues can be solved just through actually talking to the person in question.

      Yes there is a slight chance you will encounter a complete pr**k who will insult you for daring to suggest they don’t do burnouts in the street at 5am, but anyone who has not even advised a person that their car/music/page turning is too loud has no right to complain.

    • Leah says:

      03:10pm | 24/02/11

      And what about when they attack you for asking them to turn the music down, or when you tell them to put the fence out because they have set in on fire to dance around? What then? This is the reality of my last home. Week long parties with music so loud all the windows shake. It got to the point where I was crying as I rang the police for the 5th time at 4.00am on a Tuesday morning to have the police reply “Are you serious? They have turned the music back up again?” after a WEEK LONG party 24 hours a day with music so loud you could not even talk inside our home you had to yell. Come stay with me for a week anyone saying people don’t have a right to complain I’m inviting you all over.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      12:29pm | 24/02/11

      Ahem. I will always try to go about my life in a way that impacts on those around me as little as possible.
      If I have a party once in a blue moon, I will turn the music down at a reasonable hour, or whenever you ask me to. I will compensate you for said party with a 6 pack of beer & or a bottle of wine - or I’ll just invite you over.
      I will make sure my dog doesn’t bark, I will not beep my horn unless I have to..

      Outside of this, your whinging will fall on deaf ears. Sorry.

    • Sick of inconsiderate people says:

      12:31pm | 24/02/11

      Try being woken up by a lawnmower starting outside your bedroom window at 5am and see if you don’t complain about it.  The guy next door to us has a repair business, 7 days a week, and he’s an early riser.  So many times I’ve yelled out the window for him to shut it until after 7am, but he’s an idiot.  So I finally had enough and called the council.

      Turns out it’s a cash in hand business that hasn’t been registered…...  If he’d just had a little consideration for his neighbours, he wouldn’t have found himself in the trouble he’s in right now.

    • phil says:

      12:39pm | 24/02/11

      Pity you porr city folk living tooth by jowl with your noisy neighbours. I live on 13 acres in the country with nearest neighbour 700m away. But those dam frogs and cicadas, kookaburras and galahs are no respector of my privacy. I demand legislated satisfaction!

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      12:41pm | 24/02/11

      The neighbours at my last house had two absolutely feral a**holes of children. They used to call my dog upto the fence, and when she came to say hi & jump up on the fence, they’d beat her on the head with sticks, for no apparent reason.. I’d roar at them & they’d tell me to f* off.
      I complained to their parents, apparently ‘They wouldn’t do something like that’.

      One day - they invited themselves into my yard to get their footy, I was inside but they didn’t feel the need to come ask me. The dog was in the yard & bit one on the leg, (no mauling, no stitches, just a bit of blood) - next thing I know the mother is at my door going off her tree about how my dog is dangerous & should be put down… she didn’t like it when I said the same about her kids wink

    • randy marsh says:

      12:42pm | 24/02/11

      When renting in an apartment the downstairs neighbour’s always complained because we washed the dishes to loudly and that we walked on our floors to loudly, needless to say on the day we left we threw some stink bombs in their bathroom window and poisoned their pot plants in the fount of their doorstep! That will teach those old spoil sports to not call our realestate all the time to complain about trivial matters.

    • Count Reg of Upper Gumtree. says:

      03:00pm | 24/02/11

      So it was you Marsh. Watch out ‘cos I’s a’cummin around tuh gettcha.

      (Rolls up sleeves.  Tucks in the bag.)

    • Jo says:

      01:09pm | 24/02/11

      Perhaps people only write letters if they don’t have the luxury of being paid to write a newspaper column giving their own bigoted viewpoint.  Your columnist got it spot on:  “This, as I’m sure you’re aware, makes me a wanker.”

    • Timothy says:

      02:04pm | 24/02/11

      This makes for a good read to educate yourselves to what degree MANY MANY Australians across this nation feel about the impact of Noise related issues due to selfishness of other fellow countrymen (and -women):
      http://www.ourbrisbane.com/suburbs/neighbours-hell

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      02:46pm | 24/02/11

      Your use of caps lock represents noise & this is disturbing my quiet internet enjoyment.

    • Mm says:

      02:33pm | 24/02/11

      I Have received a letter in the mail from my neighbour about noise level ( i love to play my music loud when i get home from work around 6pm)

      In this letter he told me how he lived with a family member who had just had a horrible opperation and needed peacful rest…... i was sorry, i gave them flowers and apologoized.

      3 hours later said person with horrible operation was chain smoking out the front….... peacful rest?

      i wanted my flowers back =(

    • Anne71 says:

      01:05pm | 25/02/11

      Mm - okay, when you say you like to play your music loud when you get home at 6pm, just how loud do you mean? Pretty loud, I’m guessing, if your neighbours had to resort to making up a story like that to get you to turn it down. Has it occurred to you that other people, when getting home from work, might want to listen to their own music, or watch TV? Why should they be forced to listen to your racket instead? Don’t be so bloody selfish! Turn it down. The world does not revolve around you.

    • Lee says:

      08:27am | 28/02/11

      If you want to play your music loud and only you are listening to it, do as I do. Put earphones on and play it on your Ipod. That way you get the music as loud as you want it and the neighbours can find something else to complain about.

    • Lachlan J says:

      03:05pm | 24/02/11

      So we’re all agreed: everyone here keen for an all-night party at LauraBoBaura’s house?

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      04:25pm | 24/02/11

      Totally,  I have lovely neighbours now… they’re elderly and very much deaf, never hear a thing. wink

    • CSAllen says:

      03:06pm | 24/02/11

      in all seriousness, a great pub/ nightclub owner in Sydney actually had neighbours’ windows soundproofed for them at his own cost, plus took measures to restrict the impact his venue had on the surrounding area. A lot of responsibility rests with venues and I think this should be enforced by councils as part of a planning submission.
      In terms of household/ street noise I think common sense and courtesy should prevail. I once had a neighbour that complained about a noise from a movie we were playing at 8pm on a Friday night. We told him to go jump and he hasn’t spoken to me since. Great result I feel.

    • Michael says:

      12:24pm | 25/02/11

      But in cases where new residentential structures are approved near a pub or club, that venue should not be burdened with the requirement to change their existing arrangements. Particularly when a council, out of sheer greed and desire for more rates, approves residency near such a venue.

    • cozy says:

      03:21pm | 24/02/11

      I always found that a late night visit to the house with the 39 hour party carrying a can of expanding foam to be most edifying. Give it an hour after the music is off, (usually 3-5am) walk silently to back of every car in the driveway and inject as much foam into the exhaust as they will take. Then, return to bed and sleep soundly waiting for the high jinks to begin.

    • dbiff says:

      04:23pm | 24/02/11

      There was common law regarding coming to the nuisance.  Like building a house next to a cricket pitch and complaining about balls breaking your windows.  Or next to a nightclub.. then complaining about drunk loud people.

      This need to be brought back into legislation…. for sound complaints at least and developers having to just put triple glazing on windows if they build next to clubs… funny how that stops most sound.

    • Thomas says:

      04:36pm | 24/02/11

      I understand people want to have fun with their friends, especially on weekends or public holidays. I understand people’s children are not always perfect angels and that they occasionally make noise. I understand that dogs bark.

      What I don’t understand is loud music and drunken shouting at two in the morning in a mixed residential area.. an area full of children who need to be at school the next day and people who need to be at work. I don’t understand children allowed to stand in their front yard and scream at the top of their lungs for extended periods of time while their parents laugh. I don’t understand dogs being shut outside during all winds and weathers, howling and barking at anyone who so much as opens their front door down the street.  I certainly don’t understand durnken domestic arguements outside other people’s homes where the entire street can hear who your husband is sleeping with.

      For people saying “why don’t you just ask them to be quiet”... because yes, when I can hear drunk people yelling and playing loud music or argueing, it gives me a real sense of safety in knocking on their door or going out and telling them to belt up. As for children… I work in food service… I once asked a child to jump down off the counter where they were running around, only to be yelled at by the parent who wasn’t paying attention, and be told I was wrong by my boss.. you don’t tell people’s children off, and if you tell the parents they do nothing. I did once ask someone to keep their dog quiet… as did many neighbours.. only to get blamed solely for someone eventually calling the rangers, threatened with violence and yelled at in the street every day.

    • ?? says:

      05:11pm | 24/02/11

      i had this absolute loser who played music at all hours, and couldn’t take a hint to turn it down. so, i rang his apt buzzer at 6.00am every morning when i left for work (kinda a ring and run sort of thing). music now stops at 10.00pm learn to treat others how they treat you.

    • Carly J says:

      05:55pm | 24/02/11

      We are a nation of sooks. I roll my eyes when people say this is ‘the greatest country on earth’ maybe it was, before we became massively pussified. Once I finnish studying, I’m immigrating to somewhere a bit more chill. Our” layed back,” attitude to life is becoming more and more of a myth!

    • Dirk Hartog says:

      07:00pm | 24/02/11

      Don’t tell me - you’re emigrating to “finnland”. I hope your studies encompass literacy. Or are you too laid back for that?

    • Unwanted noise is a human health hazard says:

      07:00pm | 24/02/11

      The World Health Organisation long ago warned that unwanted neighbourhood noise is a serious health hazard.  Invasive noise disturbs sleep with drowsy driving implications, it interferes with family communications and causes psycho-physiological health problems.
      It is not safe to approach offending noise-makers with a request for quiet.  Every year distressed citizens are assaulted and some murdered simply because they politely ask that the living and sleeping rooms of their homes be respected and spared from other people’s selfish noise-making indulgences.
      For anyone who doubts these facts, do some research. And next time that dripping tap keeps you awake at night,  or disturbs enjoyment of your reading, sleeping or television time, see how long it takes before you turn it off.  Noise does not need to be loud to spoil quiet enjoyment of your home. Sleep is essential to healthy and safe daily living. That’s why pilots cannot fly unless they can verify eight hours uninterrupted sleep.
      You are entitled to determine what happens inside your home. Except of course if someone decides that they own your space and will deliver into it whatever racket they choose.

    • hermes says:

      08:59pm | 24/02/11

      I knew someone who had this weird flatmate who was so paranoid about noise, light etc, that they used to put towels over the hifi, so the lights wouldn’t shine on them! And the flatmate didn’t like my friend BREATHING too loud!
      And once my neighbour phoned me and woke me up, and abused me for playing loud music, which I never do, because a neighbour 5 houses down was having a party - said party having been organised well in advance, with letters in mailboxes, police notified etc! treet, and the police.
      What I hate about people who complain is that politicians LISTEN to them; and 99% of people might be perfectly happy with a music venue, and 1% complains…and guess what happens…

    • Ben says:

      09:49pm | 24/02/11

      actually as it happens i’m wearing wireless headphones right at this minute so the explosions in the game i’m playin in another window don’t disturb my neighbours.

      i see your point, many take the complaining too far, but where’s your counterpoint? what would consitute noise pollution in your book? excessively loud exhausts? how about excessively loud exhausts at 4am? how about excessively loud exhausts at 3am and again at 4am every single night of the week?

      in my book the difference between sound is related to the time, repeatedness, and necessity.

      eg say there’s jackhammering at a construction site. well there’s no such thing as a quiet jackhammer and no other way to construct so that’s necessity, so as long as it stops at night and doesn’t start again too early in the morning and doesn’t go on for years then i seem no problem.

      really it all boils down to consideration - consider that others might want some peace and quiet, and also consider that others might make some noise while enjoying their lives.

    • bananabender says:

      10:46pm | 24/02/11

      Switzerland has strict “no noise” rules between 10pm and 6am.  Basically any noise emanating from your dwelling is verboten. Even having a shower or flushing the toilet after 10pm may result in a rude letter from the neighbours.

    • JRM says:

      06:33am | 25/02/11

      Surely noise can be reduced 10pm til 7am. Parties that cause others inconvenience arethe problem.

      As for simply knocking on the door and asking them to turn it down - try it and see what a bunch of drunks tell you.

      And soundproof your house ? Why - the sleeping neighbour is not the transgressor.  How about the partygoers put some headphones on.

    • BC says:

      07:00am | 25/02/11

      My Sister in Law has an apartment in the leafy east of Melbourne which she rents.  Her landlord decided he would put an air conditioner in said apartment for her.  Her wowsers of neighbours were notified this was happening and promptly shot down a reverse cycle ac going in.  Apparently because the exhaust unit needed to be fitted on the balcony to much noise would be produced.  She also applied to have it installed in the communal garden area downstairs and this was also knocked on the head - this time due to the look of the thing in the garden.  The landlord then decided to install an evaporative unit.  Next comlaint was that the sound of the water draining out of the unit down the drainage pipes was to loud!  She ended up having to go to council and fighting the wowsers but now she has to turn the AC off at 10pm every night and not turn it on until 8am in the morning.  Absolutely rediculous - people like this need something actually important to worry about.

    • Tim the Toolman says:

      11:30am | 25/02/11

      “people like this need something actually important to worry about. “

      That’s being quite generous.  Unless by something important to worry about, you mean how they’re going to feed themselves through a broken jaw for the next six months, then, you’re being entirely too nice.

    • J says:

      07:31am | 25/02/11

      My favourite or not so favourite whining d*uche is a fella that complains about the noise of rescue helicopters returning to base at all hours, to which I might add the airport has been in location many decades prior to his house being built.

    • Diddles says:

      07:46am | 25/02/11

      Pointless complaints
      People who moved into a new dockside apartment development complained about the noise of the docks at night! Wanted all work to stop after 6pm.
      Also complaints against the company I work for about fruit pulp in our pulpy cloudy fruit juice. Go figure.

    • John Barr says:

      08:27am | 25/02/11

      Best course of action to the ferals next door playing heavy metal music all night long. Join them. Get yourself a CD of the “Royal Scots Dragoon Guard Pipes & Drums Band.” Every time they put their (noise) music on, face your speakers in the appropriate direction, turn your volume up, press play. The ferals don’t take long to move to a new suburb. Peace & quite will return. Explain to your neighbours what you are doing first though.

    • A says:

      09:08am | 25/02/11

      A friend visiting from Canada summed up apartment strata living quite succinctly - fill of the newly weds and nearly deads!  When a 3 bedroom house in Sydney is worth 1.5 million families have no choice but to live in aparments, unfortunately they end up living next door to retiree’s who have too much time on their hands and spend it trying to control their environments. Babies cry, children laugh, toilests flush at 1am and yes cartoons are an essential part of childhood.  The newly weds in our strata complex have all had complaints about these things disguised under the term of ‘unacceptable noise levels’. The most interesting one we heard of was a partially deaf neighbour receiving a complaint about ‘bongo drums’ being played.  I’m sure with all the equity acquired through the growth in the housing market the ‘nearly dead’ can find a nice 60+ early retirement community and let the next generation raise their families in ‘peace’ !
      Fantastic article.

    • Dee says:

      09:19am | 25/02/11

      I’m a pharmacist and last year a woman complained to the pharmacy board (qld at the time) that she didn’t like the music that was being played in store. What’s more unbelievable is that the pharmacy board called the pharmacy and told us to change the music.

    • sooks says:

      09:41am | 25/02/11

      Its these same people who want to shutdown the internet with censorship.

    • John says:

      10:24am | 25/02/11

      Making excessive noise should be made illegal. Sub Woofers should be made illegal and not be allowed to be played around residential area’s. It’s drives me nuts listening to car hoon driving pass the street with the noise up so high! are they deaf? get some headphones idiots! I lived in London and god was it the worst time of my life. They had wooden floors and the guys up stairs played their Hifi system with the bass up really high for like 6 hours a day on Fri,Sat and Sun. I had to buy head phones or i would lose the plot. I also could listen to the conversations on weekdays as i tried to sleep. The guys voice which had the most bass would penetrate through the wooden floor. You would feel like your were third person in the relationship and it was hard to get to sleep. Never again will a live in an apartment with wooden sellings and floors! must be concrete. Then i came back to Australia and lived inside a house and two house’s a way was den of car hoons who played their techno bass music in their cars with the sub really high about hours a day 4 days a week. It drove me nuts again. But it wasn’t as bad as London. I felt sorry for the neighbors. The people of the house should of been kicked out, council and police should of given them warnings.

    • dug says:

      12:51pm | 25/02/11

      There’s “reasonable noise”, and then there’s just “noise”... and there’s noise pollution laws to distinguish them. If the kids in my street wanna crank up the doof-doof on a Friday, heck… go for it. The guys on the corner who have band practice on Sunday arvo… knock yourselves out. I might even crack open a beer, sit out and have a listen in the back yard.  But when I wake up at 3am on a school night to the sound of yapping neurotic dogs neglected by idiotic owners, from not one, but THREE separate neighbours, it’s getting beyond a joke.

    • Emma says:

      02:10pm | 25/02/11

      I’d rather the dogs over the two neighbours I have who sound like whales being harpooned at 2am in the morning by amorous partners.  The first time it happened I thought someone was being murdered, until I heard her giggle and then go back to her shamoo sounds.  I don’t begrudge people a sex life but damn I don’t want to wake up to it at 2am in the morning 3hrs before I have to get up for work!

    • John says:

      01:02pm | 25/02/11

      The teenagers on both sides of my place used to have loud boozy parties - and consider it hilarious to have bottle fights and abuse each other loudly until the wee smalls.  But they found out that this would always be followed by a chainsaw/leafblower/lawnmower concerto the next morning perhaps with John Denver full blast at intervals.

      As for barking dogs, call them to the fence while armed with a length of conduit - inside the conduit you have 2 light tissue paper ‘plugs’.  Cotton wool works well - and in between the plugs (maybe a gap of 1cm) you fill with pepper or chilli powder.  It is basically a capsicum spray pea-shooter.  When the dog rushes over to the fence you say “Shuttup” and then let it have it with the pepper.  One repeat and a shout of “shuttup” and they have learned.  A supersoaker filled with a solution made from steeped dried chillis works well too.

    • BobM says:

      07:24pm | 26/02/11

      Awesome!!!  I hate barking dogs….

    • Brendo says:

      07:58am | 27/02/11

      John,

      The Welsh have a saying: Everyone is brave behind a castle wall.

      Come spray my dogs.  I see you, I swear to God, I’ll end you smile

    • Patrick says:

      02:38pm | 25/02/11

      Lets get rid of all the whingers.  We can poison the back of postage stamps so they lick ‘em and croak.  If they ring up, hang up.  If they knock on your door, ignore ‘em.  If the cops are called, well, they have guns and should know what to do with ‘em,

    • Michael fitz Patrick says:

      04:07pm | 25/02/11

      @ Patrick fitz Michael . Politicians would love a world where we killed people who complained. People like you may not have been born!

    • Tim says:

      12:56am | 26/02/11

      Reading these comments I have to agree with Andrew (9:59am 24/2) - people not knowing their neighbours anymore is at the core of the problem.  There are undoubtedly problem cases, noone here is denying that.  However the author is complaining about those complaints which are completely unreasonable, and there are plenty of those too.  I prescribe a lifetime supply of chill pills and some heavier sleeping for all involved!

      And for all those with babies who love to complain about noise so much, I hope you never take your screaming kids to hotels, or on planes, or live in apartments where people can hear them.  It works both ways folks!

    • Mumz says:

      10:27am | 26/02/11

      A good friend of mine works at the Brisbane City Council and for years used to take the complaints of citizens. The stories she would tell! One of the most popular complaints apparently is a handful of leaves falling from a neighbours tree into their yard. Another is that the neighbours grass edging along the gutter out the front doesn’t match up with theirs and it looks unruly. Another was cars that were parked with tyres in the gutter stating that if there were a flash flood it would be a hiderance to the neighbourhood. She eventually had to transfer to another department as it was so tiring and frustrating and I for one don’t blame her.

    • TDJ says:

      11:21am | 26/02/11

      Unfortunately, sooner of later there will be no such thing as Australian made. It is inevitable. We simply have no one in politics that is truly patriotic. At the end of the day the interests of greed driven big business will out weigh the interests of the country and Australians. The politicians will help them not us. Which of course should be pretty evident with the situation we are in now. Politicians will not control prices, which is what they should be doing. So the cost of living keeps rising. Wages sooner or later have to rise to compensate. Australia becomes more unproductive as companies will get more and more manufactured and sourced from overseas. Until we have someone who does not just talk and act patriotic, but actually places it into action. We are stuffed. It is already probably too late.

    • Mel says:

      03:58pm | 26/02/11

      Got people next door playing their loud music at all hours?  Just go out early the next morning, start your lawnmower up, turn it to full revs and leave it sitting beside the fence between your place and the place the loud music comes from, preferably as close as you can get to their main bedroom, and go back inside.

    • BobM says:

      07:29pm | 26/02/11

      Bit hard to do in an apartment, but good idea tho.  grin

    • mark says:

      06:02am | 27/02/11

      lol, I miss street raves in the UK where people just set up their stereos up in the front garden or street. Most of the neighbours join in because if you cant beat them join them! I used to have them in my street going off until mid day before the cops arrived and they were a great way to meet the neighbours.

    • Jason says:

      07:01am | 28/02/11

      I think the easiest response to this is simply… “Get farked!”.... Seriously??

    • Julie Morgan King says:

      08:13am | 01/03/11

      Ordinarily I’d read this article with a nod and a bit of a giggle but as I write there is a guy outside my place on a phone bellowing; he has been going at it full throttle for 15 minutes with no sign of letting up. My head’s pounding. There’s a renovation going on up the hill a bit and the noise is deafening. I work from home and it’s day time so my grumbles don’t count for much. I suppose I could turn the hose on him, but he might jump over the fence and kill me! Oh for some happy sounds!

    • Jett says:

      03:48pm | 09/03/11

      When my son was about 11, we lived in a semi-detached house next to a old guy who after we moved in built a giant fence between the front of the houses. He then reported us for being noisy, washing the dishes, turning on taps and flushing the toilet all times of the day. The Housing trust lady came round to tell us that he had put in a formal complaint saying that he had to sleep in his bath to get away from all the noise, he had complained several times and she had to visit us to let us know. She actually thought he was being ridiculous. I worked, my son went to school and we were pretty quiet even on weekends…I asked a friend to be a witness for me and she came round every day for a week, I talked about the situation with my son and we decided to be super quiet and see if he complained again, we turned the tv right down (un-necessary as the fire wall was two foot thick), we spoke in whispers and gently washed up and were very quiet all of the week. The same woman came round again and proceeded to advise me that we would be evicted if we had another complaint about breaching the peace…we sat down with this woman and told her what we had done all week and my friend said she witnessed it and would swear on a bible that we were not being noisy…turns out the guy next door wanted a new unit at the new complex being built and this was the only way he could get one, by causing crap and getting moved on, after talking to the housing trust woman she said that they would be moving him out of the house next door and apologised for the harassment and having to be warned etc.
      When the guy moved out he filled a trailer with beer bottles and the green recycle bin…after all the crap he was a drunk and was bullshitting Wanker!!

    • Tony says:

      05:18pm | 07/06/11

      We’ll see how this idiot reacts to mindless boom boom shithouse (so called) music when, and if, he grows up. After 10pm people should consider the neighbours there’s absolutely no excuse for noise after that time. If you want to make a racquet that’s fine SOUNDPROOF YOUR HOUSE!  Anyone suggesting that the people being annoyed by loud shitty music are either brain damaged or under 25. Usually these two conditions occur together.
      How would you feel if you start work at 5am and can’t get to sleep because some wanker is blasting away with some humungus sound system. I’m a musician and have been the perpetrator of such crimes with such practices as running two Marshall stacks in STEREO to the point where my dog used to drag a huge cushion into the corner and stick his head under it, the poor little mite.
      Just remember KARMA is part of the law of the universe, IT WORKS and will repay you ten fold as it is repaying me right now in the form of Bangladeshi rock music thumping through my ceiling. Luckily I still have a Marshall, a few barres of “Life In the Fast Lane” with my Marshall on 11 usually shuts the fuckers up quick smart. People who believe their stereos are loud have no idea what real volume is, until they hear a valve amp cranked to 11.
      Retaliation is the only means by which noisy neighbors with bad taste can be quietened down.

    • Sereena says:

      07:12am | 10/01/12

      Once upon a time, there was a thing called courtesy, considering other people and showing them the same level of respect you would show yourself.  It meant not being a selfish toad.  Nowadays, the rule is do what you like until somebody complains, then do it some more!  Nobody has the right to cause discomfort for others under any circumstances, particularly with noise.  If you are the one making the noise, you have an obligation to not force your unnecessary noise on others.  Why should I have to listen to the noisy scumbag neighbour playing his music too loud or riding a damn bike backwards and forwards?  And distance often makes no difference.

      Unfortunately, when we lived in the suburbs of Melbourne, we had kids riding monkey bikes backwards and forwards for hours just a couple of metres from the front of our house.  Good news for their parents, cause they weren’t annoying them with their noisy bikes, but too bad for the neighbours.  If you were sick or not feeling well and wanted to go and have an afternoon nap, forget it, because of these ferals, it was out of the question.  The noise was often so loud, we had to wear headphones to listen to our TV.  This went on all day, often started as early as 7.30 in the morning on weekends and sometimes carried on after dark.  The council and police told us the same thing, there was nothing they could do about it.

      We had no choice but to move to the country for some peace and quiet.  Moved to a 5 acre property which was occasionally blissful, except for teen males that live in surrounding properties that love riding dirt bikes for hours!!!  We couldn’t believe our bad luck.

      So as far as I’m concerned, whoever wrote this article needs a lesson in considering other people instead of their own ego.  Nobody has the right to force their unnecessary noise onto another.  Its purely a sign of selfishness on the noise maker’s part and the more legislation banning it, the better.  Every single person has a right to quiet enjoyment of their property, this should override ALL other considerations.  The obligation is on the noise maker to control their damn noise, shame on them for forcing it on others.

    • watchmen says:

      11:12am | 24/02/12

      hey, if I have to put up with being able to hear the pee stream hit the toilet water in the unit above me, he certainly keeps hydrated, then you can put up with loud music.

    • Connie says:

      03:28pm | 09/03/12

      Sounds like a hypochondriac noheibgur, certain noises get amplified in their weak brains. You could launch a complaint to the caretaker also.. this time do it on pc print out, suggesting noheibgur has a medical condition.This reminds me of our former noheibgur who pulled 3 steel wires (for laundry)  from our garden fencing, successfully caused it to cave in, but when I had the contractor repair it, did not even apologize or offered to share the bill.The most annoying was, they removed the wires when the fence pole caved in, hung their laundry on their own fencing for some days, then quickly restored the 3 wires, when I had my fencing repaired! And they were lecturers of a leading college here

    • taurfage says:

      04:46pm | 17/04/12

      you must read <a >plus size bridesmaid dresses</a>  to your friends

 

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