There’s an odd kind of acquiescence to broken political promises. It’s considered almost narky to politely point out to politicians that they have in fact broken a promise that helped have them elected.

Health Minister Nicola Roxon at a press conference last week. Picture: Ray Strange

Following the big sell the Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Health Minister Nicola Roxon are embarking on after the COAG health agreement, its worth remembering what we were actually promised in back in Kevin07 days.

Despite the celebrations that Gillard and Roxon are asking us to partake in, the ‘deal’ it represents is a failure of Rudd, Gillard and Roxon to implement what was supposed to be a revolutionary health agenda. It’s symptomatic of the kind of inertia Labor has encountered across its policy agenda and, consequently, its support base.

Go back to the 2007 election campaign and look at what Kevin Rudd said about “ending the blame game” on health.

“What I’m signalling very clearly is if we weren’t able to yield that sort of outcome co-operative with the states, then I believe the mood of the nation is that we need to ask the Australian people for a mandate to take Commonwealth responsibility for full funding for public hospitals.”

And this from Roxon in an opinion piece in August 2007, calling the promise “one of the most significant reforms of our health system since Federation”:

“We also announced that if - and only if - state and territory governments had not begun implementing an agreed national plan by mid-2009, a federal Labor government would seek public support to take financial control of Australia’s 750 public hospitals. A few days later we followed that up by announcing a $220 million investment in new primary care infrastructure called GP super clinics. These are significant commitments to get our health system back on track and equip it for the demands of the future.”

The parameters for a Commonwealth takeover were always loose, primarily because Rudd and Roxon had absolutely no intention of going near a Commonwealth takeover. There was also a promise for 31 GP super clinics in Labor’s first term.

Now fast forward to mid 2009 when absolutely nothing happens except a meeting to iron out the parameters on improvements to the system, and set a date for another COAG meeting in 2010. By May, there were three super clinics in operation and eight near completion.

Move to April 2010 when Kevin Rudd forced a “historic” breakthrough with the states on hospital funding.

Let’s put aside the fact that by this time the states had arguably not met Rudd’s criteria to avoid a Commonwealth takeover, and he could’ve called for a referendum (if even needed Constitutionally) in the 2010 election. Let’s just assume the deal that would see the states surrender 30 per cent of their GST revenue in return for a new Commonwealth dominated role (eventually 60 per cent) was a good one.

The real problem was that there was no deal in the first place. Rudd and Roxon were too busy getting high on the hyperbole of the agreement and assumed that WA Premier Barnett would surrender to pressure and jump aboard. He did not - and there was still no deal.

Let’s also remember during this time the Australian Health and Hospitals Reform Commission was formed. This was a team of crack health experts who were to form the blueprint of health policy for the Labor Government.

The HHRC worked for 18 months and compiled two reports, making 123 recommendations in the final report on the future of health in Australia. Both Rudd and Gillard’s plan adopted parts of recommendation that called for a unified funding model that allows procedures to be better costed. To be fair to Rudd, the HHRC’s recommendation on a Commonwealth primary care takeover (that’s pretty much anything outside a hospital) was also in last year’s plan with the states.

Largely however, especially in regard to recommendations on dental and mental health, the HHRC’s report was thrown on the pile with the Henry Review and Garnaut reports (I figure somewhere out there Ken Henry, Ross Garnaut and HHRC members are meeting in a suburban scout hall every second Tuesday for group therapy).

After Rudd was dumped there was no indication that the health plan would go with him. Throughout the campaign Gillard Labor continued to argue the benefits of Rudd’s reform. After scraping through the election Gillard still saw the reforms as central to her reform agenda, repeating her commitment to the Rudd’s health plan.

Roxon is blaming the failure of Rudd’s deal on Barnett and the subsequent election of Ted Baillieu in Victoria, with none too subtle hinting that it’s all the fault of those damn Liberal premiers. This is true, but it’s also one of the vicissitudes of politics, and going out and proclaiming you had a deal when you didn’t is something Roxon should’ve considered.

Roxon has been the only constant in the Labor Government’s health policy since 2007, and her role in its failures have gone relatively unexamined.

Roxon is smart, decent and one of the hardest working ministers - she’s also notoriously difficult to work for and with.

Her officious manner and quick temper meant that after the last election her office all but cleared out: fed up policy advisors and press secretaries made a break for it, despite Labor holding on to power. Nor are Roxon’s failings lost on the health stakeholders she’s supposed to be negotiating with.

Roxon was nowhere to be seen when Gillard announced she’d dump the Rudd deal and didn’t pop up till to Monday morning after the COAG deal, with the bulk of the big sell being left to Gillard.

But the failures of Labor’s health policy go beyond any faults of Roxon’s. In fact, they go beyond health. If you track the big promises and failed policy endeavours of Labor since the election of Kevin Rudd in 2007, health begins to look a little like the dead canary in the coalmine.

All of the Rudd/Gillard big policy failures seem to follow a similar pattern: from the ETS to tax reform to asylum seekers we’ve been promised big revolutionary change, followed by broken promises and backdowns, followed by a new Prime Minister who proceeded to reaffirm her support for, then promptly tear up the old plans. All of this becoming so far removed from the originals they hope we’d forgot they were still breaking promises.

So now what? We have the new Gillard deal on health that, much like the one struck under Rudd, is not actually a deal yet. Assuming a final deal is struck what are we actually left with? A watered down version of an already weaker version of what Rudd initially promised us. You’re not going to need another poll to understand the cynicism in the electorate.

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    • TimB says:

      05:25am | 16/02/11

      Oh, today is going to be a good day.

      I predict the theme of the Labor-supporting comments will be “Butbutbut the LIBERALS!!!...”. Possibly with a few references to John Howard thrown in. And maybe some more of that delightfully twisted claim that Abbott ripped money from health.
      Of course there might actually be some creative defenses of why this Government fails so much. I look forward to reading them

      Good article Leo, I believe there’s been a few Punchers clamouring for this one in recent days.

    • Jedi_T says:

      06:21am | 16/02/11

      My sentiments exactly TimB.
      Will be watching this space for a laugh today.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      07:25am | 16/02/11

      What is laughable is some grown up who thinks she/he is a jedi, on’ya tough guy/girl or whatever you think you are.

    • Jim says:

      07:38am | 16/02/11

      Spot on TimB…the Labor way is to either;

      1. Cover their own failings by pointing the finger at the other side and accusing them of exactly what they themselves do…“Libs lie, Libs are sloganeers, Libs have faceless men, Libs have paid Punchers, Libs aren’t stable.”

      2. Point to a trivial issue and make a song and dance about it to hide their own failures…”$250K on printer toners!!” Shhhh….$126BN and counting fellas!

      3. Come up with ridiculous name calling and labelling…simple cause it rhymes, simple it makes them look!

      4. Start making personal attacks on other punchers who are smart enough to form their own opinion…as demonstrated almost immediately by Christian Real!

      5. Engage persephone to bombard a thread with a hundred or so long winded condescending, patronizing, untrue and droll posts so that people give up on the thread by lunch time.

    • Jim says:

      07:40am | 16/02/11

      Sorry Christian…so used to you being the amongst the first trolls…I meant of course Rob Charteris

    • TimB says:

      07:44am | 16/02/11

      Straight to the heart of the matter as always Rob.

      Kudos.

    • Tom says:

      07:51am | 16/02/11

      Go get’em Rob Charteris. Five years and nothing but hot air on health.
      Now for Persephone, Seano and the rest of the Labor attack dogs. Cummon guys.

      Five years of junkets, committees, talk fests, jargon, task forces, “historic announcements” hype and incompetence. The words just tumble out of Labor mouths but .... a big nothing happens. .... A big Labor nothing.

    • TChong says:

      08:14am | 16/02/11

      Timmy , you and Jedi are being a bit cheeky , claiming first post before 5:30 am, ( did you set the alarm ?)  and then declaring what the parameters of the discussion should be.
      What is it with conservatives, always trying to control things, even to what are appropriate replys to the article.?
      You two will be all tuckered out by play lunch.  wink

    • Daniel says:

      08:19am | 16/02/11

      Hilarious, when it was the Liberal states that forced the compromise. Not backflip, backdown blah blah liberal garbage. “Backflip” is the new “Stop the boats” slogan.

      Perhaps they should have just sat in the meeting with arms folded, frowny faces, and stared at eachother until someone gave up.

    • Rob r charteris says:

      08:30am | 16/02/11

      Jim says:07:38am; The funny thing is… You tick every item off your list yourself lol. What is interesting is you lot cant take what you dish out, you run around like lil children screaming and crying. You come across so pathetic that we don’t bother trying to put a logical reply to it. Hence dribble and snivel… what would be the point? and I don’t think I could ever find a reason or except an excuse from you or ya chummy mates tiny tim, markette, the jedi the wonder it, which sounds kinda gay but there is nothing wrong with that, ATM which I’m not sure if it is gay thing but hey whatever you’re into, be free to be whatever you want to be. Me personally I am a reflection of the low rent politics that is rAbbott the wanker of Australian politics, He’ll never be PM, in fact I see his departure from the lib leadership coming closer with every passing day. You kinda know when the liberal party is in crisis the first instance was when A Robb came out a few weeks ago and claimed they had the government on its knees. It was a desperate call and a cover of what is going on internally within his own party.

      Apart from that, I love sticking up you lot. You deserve every bit of it and I’m not nor have I ever felt ashamed. Actually I’m amazed some of it get through. But hey I know you red skins want to shut free speech down it is good and democratic that the Punch doesn’t. So carry on dribbling and snivelling.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      08:49am | 16/02/11

      I love the sound of crickets chirping… 
       
      Certainly can’t hear anything from the usual Union-inspired ALP apparatchiks; where’s persephone? 
      If and when they do surface, it would be nice to see them answer this rather than blether on about the Howard Govt.

    • TimB says:

      08:49am | 16/02/11

      @ Daniel

      Well Leo’s article shows there were alternatives:

      “Let’s put aside the fact that by this time the states had arguably not met Rudd’s criteria to avoid a Commonwealth takeover, and he could’ve called for a referendum (if even needed Constitutionally) in the 2010 election. “

      Let’s *not* leave that aside. Rudd’s promise- To take over the health issue completely from the states if they wern’t up to scratch by 2009. Broken. Never happened.
      Instead he came up with his half-assed deal. And he crowed about that deal before it was even finalised. I don’t care who blocked it.
      It wasn’t the Liberals that made Rudd back down from his original promise. It wasn’t the Liberals who told Rudd to claim a win on a deal that was never agreed to. This is a mess of Labor’s own making, as usual. And it looks like history might just repeat itself again.

      @ Tchong, not dictating any paramaters. Simply predicting the responses. And looks like I was right. Daniel’s post falls squarely into the “butbutbut the LIBERALS!” category.

      BTW, the post was actually made at 6.25. The website clock hasn’t adjusted for DST. So yes I do set my alarm for 6 AM, but that’s to get up for work.  I usually check The Punch along with my email before I walk out the door wink

    • ZSRenn says:

      09:04am | 16/02/11

      Sometimes I hate the fact that I am 3 hours behind. But not today. Well said TimB and what joy to see Charteris and Chongy wade straight in as predicted. But at 10:03 EST it seems the others are having a sleep in today.

    • Aitch B says:

      09:10am | 16/02/11

      @TChong

      Chrikey, Chongy!!

      Since when does “I predict the theme of the Labor-supporting comments will be…... ” set the parameters of the discussion?

      There are two words there that completely kill your misguided notion - “I predict”. Since when is a prediction a declaration of fact? How can those words be construed as “trying to control things” and defining “what are appropriate replys” (which should be “replies”, by the way)?

      You been tucking into Rob’s stash of diet coke by any chance?

    • Jedi_T says:

      09:15am | 16/02/11

      Rob R
      Personally attacking me doesn’t solve your party’s problems.
      Another example of laborites attacking the man rather than the ball.
      TChong its called work! Are you familiar with that term? On my way there I dont mind offering my opinion.

    • Daniel says:

      10:01am | 16/02/11

      TimB: Perhaps you didn’t notice. Rudd isn’t there anymore. In large part to his inability/unwillingness to negotiate / compromise / debate. Unfortunately this gives the Liberals ammunition to scream ‘backflip’ when stuff is actually happening. This is in their down time while not attacking perfectly defendable policies / actions that become ‘undefendable’ because there are deaths involved.

      So instead of the nothing that was likely to happen under Rudd, there is now a health deal on the table, mining tax deal on the table etc.

    • Christian Real says:

      10:45am | 16/02/11

      Jim,
      I respect your apology
      Some people do work and can’t be on here all the time like others,Tim B, might be an exception though either on the dole or maybe he has a cushy job at Liberal Party Headquarters,sitting in front of the work computer defending the speechless,head bobbing clown that they have for an Opposition leader.

    • TimB says:

      10:54am | 16/02/11

      And that’s the problem in a nutshell Daniel.

      Sack Rudd, so then Labor get to pin all their failings on him? Haven’t achieved anything in 3 years of government? “Rudd’s fault! Honest! Look we got rid of him so don’t blame us!”
      Ridiculous. Gillard, Swan, Roxon and all the other useless Labor MP’s need to take their share of the responsibility.

      And it doesn’t change the facts surrounding this deal. If the deal doesn’t go through for whatever reason (Liberal related or not), it doesn’t change the fact that Labor again started crowing about something that hasn’t been finalised yet. Something that is a horribly watered down version of what was promised originally.

    • TimB says:

      12:11pm | 16/02/11

      More unfounded accusations from Christian. I won’t hold my breath for any apologies from him though.

      And for the record Christian, you’re quite wrong, as usual. I’ve already established that I am employed in the private sector & have nothing to do with the Liberal party. My position is likely no different from many other posters here.

      What about *you* Christian. What do you spend your days doing?

    • Christian Real says:

      02:21pm | 16/02/11

      Tim B
      I work in the Private sector too,but have a flexi day today, This week I have 2 days off work , 4 days on working
      Do you work from home Tim B?

    • LAD says:

      05:47am | 16/02/11

      I’ve said this all along since Gillard got Rudds job. This Government behave as if their 1st term never happened and it wasn’t them. They seem to believe they now have a clean slate to start from and can now break any promises they have made in the past, unoticed. Everytime a PM becomes unpopular apparently according to Labor you just sack them and start again as if you are a different politcal Party. and all will be forgotten and forgiven. This is the same Government, especially at the top, Gillard, Swan and Roxon.

    • LAD says:

      06:15am | 16/02/11

      ooops forgot Rudd on that list!

    • Against the Man says:

      06:04am | 16/02/11

      Amazing Leo, I’m glad you noticed Roxon was MIA too. Mentioned it in my comments yesterday. Looks like Gillard and Roxon are on the run from AtM who just seems to notice and highlight their almost criminal flaws. HaHa!!!!!!!!!!!

      Sane people will realise we have no health care reform - just talk. Gillard has lost control- the State Premiers, Greens and Independents have TOTAL muppet master control of the fake PM. Watch them pull her strings and watch her dance.

      Roxon, has been as useless as they get. No health reform, unemployed doctor numbers to balloon out of control in 1 to 2 years, suspicious deals with the nursing unions and she has become the face of substandard health care. Boy she has troubles now and a legacy of absolute shame. Watch this space: Roxon migrates to UK to escape legacy of shame and to live off her undeserved pension money (thanks Aussie taxpayers).

      This isn’t looking good for the ALP, time is ticking, what to do? What to do indeed….......

    • Jedi_T says:

      06:23am | 16/02/11

      AtM you surely are the man!
      Keep up the good work.
      And I think Leo has definetely come out with a true bipartisan look at the so called health reform.

    • TChong says:

      07:04am | 16/02/11

      Unemployed doctors numbers to balloon out of control , WTF ?
      LOL.
      Fighting in dumpsters for food scraps?maybe they will have to go to India or Iraq to drive taxis?
      Suspicis deals with nursing unions , like what exactly ?
      Funny stuff , as always.

    • Daniel says:

      09:08am | 16/02/11

      Jedi_T: About the only part that looked remotely bipartisan was when he said it was the fault of the Liberal premiers for the compromise on the reforms… “but”

      Perhaps he should review the Liberal policies that no doubt would have gone perfectly 100% to plan, under budget, on time, with perfect results as advertised. Or compare it to the performance of the last Liberal government?

    • Jedi_T says:

      12:32pm | 16/02/11

      Daniel,
      Sarcasm, look it up!
      1. i dont beleive it was bipartisan
      2. i dont beleive it’s health reform
      You guys should try and start focusing on the issue. would you like me to spell it out?
      Issue: Gillard has claimed she has historically reformed health in Australia?
      Do you agree?

    • Against the Man says:

      12:43pm | 16/02/11

      TChong, looks like Flexo was right. Your childish denial of not knowing what I am referring to with regards to unemployed doctors and nursing union back door deals is likely your only way to deal with the truth.

      Like MarK says, this constant ALP failure is getting boring.

      Another loss this week for the ALP, health care reform = FAIL. Really is getting boring, like shooting fish in a barrel Why can’t Gilltard get something right?

    • Dash says:

      01:38pm | 16/02/11

      Daniel, I’d put the performance of the last Liberal government up against this ALP government any day of the week mate! Balanced budgets, $26billion surplus, $96 billion of ALP debt paid off, full employment, GDP growth greater than any other western nation, 5 years of consecutive PAYG tax cuts, single greatest piece of tax reform since 1936. What have you got Daniel? The insulation fiasco? The school halls rorts? Record debt levels? Biggest federal budget defecit in history? Why are you part of the 30% that still support this crap?

    • MarK says:

      07:21am | 16/02/11

      Hmmmmm.

      Damn.

      Can’t find anything wrong with the article. Need to criticise rising…..

      So sad and so true. As I said yesterday I am getting bored with the regular monotony of repetitive failure this government achieves on every policy front.

      Our country deserves better.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      07:49am | 16/02/11

      MarK says:07:21am; Why is it the biggest whingers are never actually prepared to get off their fat asses and do something about it. They just want to sit in their armchairs and whinge while likely drinking diet coke and munching on crisps probably at the tax payers expense. You got to watch that diet coke MarKette it screws with the logic side of your brain. Why dont you put a logical argument across and i might even bother to answer it. Just cut the dribble and snivel and the delirious spin. I see your leader is supporting insensitive comments regarding death again with his low rent politics, I bet that made you feel all warm and cuddley eh’ because it seems you get off on that kinda thing.

    • Richard says:

      08:00am | 16/02/11

      You are incoherent Rob r Charteris, c’mon! We deserve better debate than this nonsense you are spewing out onto our screens.

    • MarK says:

      08:03am | 16/02/11

      Thansk for comment Rob about

      1. My fat arse with witch you appear to be obsessed
      2. My diet of which you know nothing
      3. Clever cross-genderisations of my name designed to insult me I guess
      4. The supposition I am unemployed

      You then go on to say other not so flattering things.

      I am still searching for a mention or comment on the health issue to hand or the wider issue of government non delivery on promises, pledges and basic policy.

      Do you have anything relevant to say or are you just going to persue ad homien attacks? I really cannot engage in any argument with you as you don’t seem to have a point to make vis the topic

      If I have missed it feel free to emphasise it.

      Thank you for your time.

    • seamus says:

      08:09am | 16/02/11

      sorry mark I believe I owe you some facts regarding my post yesterday. I should note that I am not trying to defend labor hence why i said we all know that they have major problems with policy implementation (that is they havent implemented much). However like I said the liberal party dont have anything to be particularly proud of either. therefor i thought you might appreciate some links to the OECD on the subject of health. http://www.oecd.org/document/48/0,3343,en_2649_34629_2088432_1_1_1_1,00.html

    • Adam Diver says:

      08:12am | 16/02/11

      @ Rob, that has to be the best post you have done by far

      “Why is it the biggest whingers are never actually prepared to get off their fat asses and do something about it.” Pot..Kettle..Black

      “probably at the tax payers expense” The left are generally accepted as being on the taxpayers expense (Uni, government workers, unemployed voters etc)

      “Why dont you put a logical argument across” He does, he concurs with Leo. when do you put a logical response across?

      “and i might even bother to answer it” you just did.

      “Just cut the dribble and snivel and the delirious spin” Pot- Kettle - Black (I need a stronger way to express this)

      “I see your leader is supporting insensitive comments regarding death again” not quite so bad as creating the policy that led to the deaths.

      Do you ever read your post after publication? Do you ever feel embarrassed by what you wrote?

    • TChong says:

      08:21am | 16/02/11

      Rob r
      Thats marsupial MarK , you are criticising .
      Dont you know he is rare and protected critter, ?and once the “Save the MarK “group hear of this, they will be tut tutting you.
      Let Koala MarK sit in his tree , he has been traumatised enough by Oakshott invading and flourishing in his habitat.

    • Jim says:

      08:24am | 16/02/11

      Geez Rob….angry pill this morning? Looks like you were breast-fed on diet coke mate.

    • NicoleG says:

      08:31am | 16/02/11

      LOL. That’s rich coming from you Rob. I’ve yet to see you put anything containing the slightest bit of logic together. All you ever manage to do is insult people and name call. And even if you one day did happen to say something remotely constructive, I doubt you’d get a reply because you’re just plain rude.

    • TChong says:

      08:55am | 16/02/11

      MarK, wear a joke old son.
      Sad if we all get too thin skinned.
      As long as the trolls dont start posting using someone elses name, most of the verbal jousting shouldnt be taken too seriosly.  smile

    • Flexo says:

      09:07am | 16/02/11

      TChong you seem to be giving very immature and childish answers to the comments given. Maybe if you highlighted the good things that Gillard and Roxon have done in health that deserve credit it may boost your credibility.

      Right now Rob and you come across as pathetic ALP nutters and I do say that with great sadness.

    • Steve of Cornubia says:

      09:19am | 16/02/11

      Are there ANY actual rational counter-arguments from the Left in here? All I can see are personal insults and taunting.

    • TChong says:

      10:24am | 16/02/11

      Flexo, Steve, worry less.
      Long time poster MarK, dishes it out, and can cop one in return.
      All part of the fun and games.
      Flexo, I’m no more bound to ALP policy, than you are bound to LNP policy.
      If you are, thats your choice.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      10:25am | 16/02/11

      Richard says:08:00am; I see the redskin coming ut again. It’s a reflection of the nonsense coming from your lot.

      MarK says:08:03am; Come MarKette be original, I’ve already taken the “Cant be bothered replying to your dribble” position. Oh that right you’re one that takes anything printed in a news papaer as gospel especially if it comes from the Australian or the Telegraph.

      Adam Diver says:08:12am; Like I posted earlier I’m a reflection of that rascally rAbbott that got all tanty about not being PM…. it just ain’t fair!!! So I’m just being low rent too. You see we live in a free country but you might not really understand that. Probably (in your case) from a lack of travel. So when your pathetic imp of a leader rAbbott actually does something constructive for the Australian people perhaps I might change.

    • MarK says:

      12:16pm | 16/02/11

      Still waiting for any rebuttals to the health debacle or policy failings in general them we have going here.

      Avoiding the topic does not make it go away.

    • Jedi_T says:

      12:38pm | 16/02/11

      MarK,
      We all know Rob, TChong and the others are hacks!
      How often do we ask for them to debate the topic at hand, to only be insulted or ignored, maybe have them whinge about Johnny or rant about something inconsequential!
      But its good for a laugh during lunch.

    • TimB says:

      12:53pm | 16/02/11

      Jedi, you have to be a little fair.

      TChong is usually wrong like most of the Labor supporters, but he’s generally a good sort. And he is capable of debating a point sometimes.

      Rob is beyond help though. He’s the textbook definition of a Troll, pure and simple.

    • Jedi_T says:

      02:13pm | 16/02/11

      TimB
      Maybe I am being a bit harsh. But TChong is being a right little joker today and in the past has had the lack of balls to respond on occasion when i’ve posted, so its all relative.
      But the lack of true debating by the other team is slightly disheartening.

    • scepticalnotyetcynical says:

      07:23am | 16/02/11

      Why is anyone surprised at the duplicity and lack of embarassment shown by Gillard and Roxon. This is simply in keeping with the current ALP mantra of “whatever it takes to stay in power”. Do we really have to wait for the next election? Can the country withstand such deviousness and incompetence and can we swallow their garbage for another 2 year?

    • ZSRenn says:

      12:29pm | 16/02/11

      The only out I can see is if the independents cross the floor on supply but with Shortens plant as GG will that really do us any good.?

    • Flexo says:

      07:23am | 16/02/11

      Gillard got Rudd’s job via the back stabbing method because she felt Rudd’s government had lost its way. Now wasn’t Nicola Roxon part of they wayward government? Why wasn’t she sacked? After her continuing non-performance why is she still the health minister?

      Either Gillard keeps Roxon on and accepts the blame that she was too quick on the draw to call her reforms a success or she lets Roxon be the scape goat - blame her and fire her to deflect attention from the all mighty Gillard.

      The coalition needs to attack the jugular with this one, the ALP has made a tremendous mistake with health reform and they should be held accountable till a positive result is achieved (or ever achieved).

    • Macca says:

      07:36am | 16/02/11

      I’m getting tired of seeing it, and tired of saying it, but too often this ALP government celebrates a victory before the chickens have hatched, continously patting each other on the back before the details have been worked out and the legislation passed.

      The latest health reform is already heading down a similar road to the ETS and Mining Tax; that the government is selling its victory despite the details of legislation being months away.

      It is becoming a real concern for a party that initially promised so much prior and post the 2007 election, and has failed to deliver on much.

      Worse, the few things they can celebrate - Industrial Relations legislation and Economic Stimulus during the GFC - have either been forgotten or swept under the carpet by a government embarrased to sell the successes of a Prime Minister who was removed by his own party in his first term.

      The result; we saw a campaign where the incumbent tried to sell policies unnatural to its ideology and opposed by much of it’s support base.

      Focusing on health is a good move for the ALP, it should be one of their natural strengths and it is a proven weakness of Abbott’s. However, Roxon’s track record of the last 4 and a half years is very poor and it would be poltically treacherous to remove her from that portfolio, especially now that Gillard is selling the ‘historic reforms’.

      The ALP are desperate for a victory to sell to the people. But winning this short term battle and celebrating something which has not yet been acheived will only hamstring the government further down the track when their plans fail to come to fruitiion. If their performance does not improve, the ALP will lose the war.

    • Daniel says:

      08:46am | 16/02/11

      What are the health failures? You can call this a failure all you like, but the simple fact is, NOTHING AT ALL was going to happen without the States agreeing to it. Only had 1 state left to get on board, but as soon as the Vic government turned Liberal, it changed to 2.

      After admitting it was the fault of the Liberal Premiers the deal didn’t go through as proposed, this fool proceeds to place all blame on Labor. Hilarity.

      The GP superclinics might have been slow to roll out, but the benefits of them is ridiculously understated, and the scheme is still full steam ahead.

    • nihonin says:

      09:05am | 16/02/11

      Beautifully articulated Macca, as to what is ailing this government.

    • Adam Diver says:

      10:12am | 16/02/11

      @ Daniel, A failure is a measurement. In Labors case they constantly fail because they don’t meet the targets set by themselves.

      So if you say you will hold a referendem but don’t then you fail.

      If you then say you will at least be primary funder but don’t then you fail.

      If you set several deadlines for various health schemes but fail to meet them (there is a clue in that line) then you fail.

      When you make bold promises that turn out to be lies, that help you win an election then you fail the very people you are supposed to represent.

    • Dissident says:

      10:29am | 16/02/11

      Daniel, let me spell it simply for you - with the use of numbered points to help.

      1) Rudd said he would fix health.
      2) Rudd tried to fix health (and get some extra taxing capacity for the Commonwealth - sweet!) but forgot that the States would ALL have to agree.
      3) Rudd did not get his deal.

      This is entirely a failure of Rudd’s making. In fact, I recall a certain Liberal premier who said that he would support the health reforms entirely as long as the GST wasn’t taken. He would contribute the exact same amount of funding as was to be taken under the GST takeover - he just wasn’t going to give up the GST. Fair enough, one would think?

      Rudd declined.

      If this was really about health, and not about taxation, Rudd would have had his deal last year.

      Now we have ‘ended the blame game’  by putting in place a 50/50 split in health funding. Are we really collectively that stupid to think that this is going to do anything other than cause more ‘blame game?’

      At least this is just an empty promise at the moment and nothing is signed. Maybe they can try again?

      Ladies and gentlemen - here is a piece of advice if you want real health solutions. Get rich - personally. No matter how bad the government stuffs it up - if you have money you can pay yourself and get fixed straight away. Or you can wait 3 years for a hip replacement in the public system.

    • Daniel says:

      11:25am | 16/02/11

      Dissident: Perhaps you missed the memo. Rudd isn’t there anymore. For good reason.

    • Cate P says:

      12:06pm | 16/02/11

      Daniel all the premiers said pretty much the same thing, agree in principle, it all depends on how it will be administered - they are all, Labor and LIberal ,wary of committing too far publicly to the Feds because previous deals lauded to the skies have just fallen through in an embarrassing mess.

    • Against the Man says:

      01:12pm | 16/02/11

      Dude, Roxon wants Super Clinics to be run by nurses - it would be cheap, it would give lower quality care and it will please her backers in the nursing union. These clinics can’t seem to recruit or hold on to doctors because they pay them next to nothing for the work they put in. The Australian Labor Party screwing over a hard worker and giving Australians poor quality health care, sounds about right to me smile

    • Dissident says:

      02:16pm | 16/02/11

      No, Daniel, I didn’t miss the memo. The point I was making wasn’t that Rudd is gone - the point I am making is that the Federal Labor Party doesn’t want control of Health. I agree with them, I wouldn’t want to be in control of health either - it is the mother of all black holes. However, If Federal Labor did want control of health, they would have it already.

      Labor had the deal signed, sealed and delivered if they had simply accepted that WA was not going to forgo its GST, but would contribute exactly the same amount of money to the pool from its own revenue. The net effect in terms of health outcomes is exactly the same, but the net effect in taxation outcomes is that the States would keep the GST. Everyone’s a winner.

      Perhaps I missed the point in your first post, though. Were you having a go at Barney (Legend) for the original health deal not going through? As I explained, it was clearly Rudd’s fault that the deal didn’t go through - it was not the Premier’s fault at all.

      PS. If Rudd is gone ‘for good reason’ does that mean that you did agree with Barney’ stance and that Rudd was wrong? Please clarify why you think it is good that Rudd is gone.

    • julie in Bris says:

      07:59am | 16/02/11

      So underwhelming ... smoke and mirrors, hot air, plenty of posturing and counting chickens before they’ve hatched. 

      How I long for a government that does what they say, that get’s on with things, all without the need to comment on previous governments “but/they/didnt/if only/it was them/in the past” blah blah. 

      We are all adults, the people that vote for you, Government.  How refreshing it would be to hear one say, here’s what we’ve got NOW. Here’s what we’ll do about it NOW. 

      A modern, effective government. Without the BS.
      And these guys, at the next election, will cry wolf.

    • Daniel says:

      11:32am | 16/02/11

      Media and the public sense of entitlement are the issue, not the government. Can you imagine that enormous storm of criticism that would occur if they walked out of the meeting and said “yep, productive meeting”, and nothing more?

      The information age has made people feel they need to know everything, right now, or someone is hiding something from them.

    • Peter says:

      08:05am | 16/02/11

      Your talking about the old Roxon, she vanished with the old Julia and Kevin. They no longer exist. Their all new people now.

    • Holly says:

      08:06am | 16/02/11

      MarK perhaps you would prefer action man Abbott to come along and purchase your local hospital and make a quite irrational promise to reinstate the ICU, against his own departments advice, without fully investigating the ongoing running costs, all because he wanted to win more votes in this particular seat.  Now that really is policy on the run.  The coalition really has no claim to greater glory let me assure you. 

      I am very happy that GP superclinic will be opening soon near me.  I am very happy that there are more doctors and nurses being trained. I am happy that more funding has gone to hospitals. 

      That politically and ego driven state premiers want to put spanners in the woks - well you dismiss their efforts as if they could have easily been surmounted - well tell us how - so easy to write a glib article.  Politics in the end boils down to what is possible within the given constraints.

    • Matt says:

      09:53am | 16/02/11

      Holly, re-read the article. A lot of your points have been dealt with (certainly without the rose tinting that you’ve applied). If Labor were serious about Health, why didn’t they hold a referendum, hmm? Answer me that one (if, like Leo suggests, it were even needed in the first place).

      I’m so happy that you’re feeling chuffed a GP superclinic will be opening near you. Shame about all the other ones that still haven’t been built as promised. But I guess it is either the fault of the Liberals, or those nasty Liberal premiers to blame in that strange little world you live in?

      Finally, in regards to your comment, “Politics in the end boils down to what is possible within the given constraints”. If it is not possible, then don’t promise it. Do not announce a “major breakthrough” or “reform” before the deal is struck. And definitely don’t lie to the Australian public at an election with false promises and pretenses to get re-elected when you never plan to deliver!

    • Daniel says:

      10:44am | 16/02/11

      Matt: No one is going without anything while the GP superclinics are being rolled out.

      Promises are broken by Opposition, and red tape, more than any government pulling a ‘bait and switch’. You vote a government in on what they intend to do, and not erupt into explosive fits of rage and lies when plans change slightly.

    • Dash says:

      02:01pm | 16/02/11

      Holly do you really want to start talking about making promises? I don’t think you want to go there!

    • Paul says:

      08:06am | 16/02/11

      Thankfully Leo Shanahan has historic knowledge and not the short-term memory of our Labor leaders and supporters. There’s another story on the same lines of Penny Wong and her dramatic annoucements that there would be a carbon tax come hell or high water.  And of course the sad sight of the once great Peter Garrett and his pronouncements, all ‘vote-for-us-and-we-will-deliver’ committments. Rudd just said what we wanted to hear.
      Julie just waves her hands around.

    • Holly says:

      08:32am | 16/02/11

      Quote from my morning paper in reference to Julia Gillard’s funding deal.  “Liberal premiers Ted Bailieu and Colin Barnett say the deal surpasses former prime minister Kevin Rudd’s plan.  Opposition spokesman Peter Dutton said he would not try to convince the Victorian and West Australian leaders to snub the deal, but would not say whether the liberals would block it.”
      And the coalition never plays politics!

    • nosthow says:

      09:17am | 16/02/11

      The sun comes up, the sun goes down as so too things in politics remain the same with “Dr NO” aka Tony Abbott saying a big NO to Labors Heath Reform. This is the guy who as Health Minister under Howard did absolutely nothing - in fact Public Health went backwards 30 years under his “guidance” . Today as we look at the Preferred PM polls we see “Dr NO” a whopping 10 percentage points behind Julia Gillard, who to be fair is not Australias most popular PM at present. As long as Labor has Tones Abbott as Leader of The Opposition , opposing everything life will be good - we love you Dr No ! P.S. lovely to see the vile Scott Morrison yesterday saying NO to the asylum seeker funerals - thats the type of stuff that will hold you in Opposition for years to come Tones ! hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • Dash says:

      01:18pm | 16/02/11

      Just wondering what State hospitals moved forward whilst the ALP ruled Victoria, NSW, Qld, SA, NT and Tassie? With 100% of the GST, handed to them, what did the ALP state governments do for State hospitals Nosthow? Why would Rudd propose federal ownership of hospitals by July 2009? That’s right, because the ALP state governments were crap! And now the Federal ALP is also crap!

      Last time I looked at the polls mate the ALP had less that a third of the primary!!!! Perhaps that’s a more important stat to look at nosthow because nearly 70% of the population don’t want the ALP or their policies! Perhaps the ALP will start listening to voters. Then again, pigs might fly!

    • HB says:

      09:49am | 16/02/11

      What I found interesting was Nicola Roxin’s reasons for the change in an interview on Ch9. She stated the change in the political arena with the Libs now in Victoria and the election in NSW.  It begs the question - so everytime there is a “change” in State leadership or Federal should we expect there to be a change in promises and policies?  If so then nothing is ever achieved and they are simply paying lip service to the voting public.

    • Daniel says:

      12:47pm | 16/02/11

      Partisan hackery will always affect Liberal / Labor negotiations. Luckily not every policy requires Federal and State to agree on something. Unfortunately the health policy does. And records show, Liberals hate health.

    • persephone says:

      09:53am | 16/02/11

      If you’re wondering about the intensity of the right wing rantings here, it’s because they can see power slipping away from them and it scares them.

      The Liberals are thrashing around, tearing themselves to pieces, whilst Gillard and co just quietly get on with the job of governance.

      In three years time, we’ll have an historic health agreement, with local communities getting involved in determining their needs and planning for the future. The NBN will be rolled out over large parts of the country, and the areas that don’t have it will be begging for it to come to them. A carbon price will be in place, and punters will see - just as they did with the GST - that their lives are going on just as usual.

      We’ll have continued high employment and growth and the flood levy will be a thing of the distant past, whilst flood affected areas will still be seeing the benefits of improved infrastructure.

      Meanwhile, those on the Opposition benches will have wasted their time carping and whining.

      That’s the future, guys. I know it scares the hell out of you, and I understand why you’re sounding increasingly shrill.

      Desperation does that to you.

    • Matt says:

      10:34am | 16/02/11

      Hey Perse, try reading the article next time before you post. wink

    • Jim says:

      10:47am | 16/02/11

      Are your eyes painted on? The only ranting I see is from the likes of Rob Charteris and as usual nossy. Now you come in…with a surprisingly short post! You’re usually a two-scroll job smile

    • Luke says:

      10:54am | 16/02/11

      Seriously are you trying to say with the track record of this Government there aren’t going to be even more issues of waste and mismangement, backflips and policy changes in the future? You probably believe there are fairies at the bottom of your garden too.

    • Daniel says:

      11:07am | 16/02/11

      Luke: The governments “track record” of ‘waste and mismanagement’ is primarily based on the lies perpetuated over the GFC stimulus packages. You probably believe the BER is a wasteful failure.

      Labor is starting to get stuff done, and the Liberals are trying to distract people while working on the best method to implode.

    • Jane says:

      11:21am | 16/02/11

      Daniel - your correct, there has been no “waste and mismangement” by this Government. The BER was a fantastic program rolled out professionally and managed superbly by the Government as you said.

    • Luke says:

      11:26am | 16/02/11

      Oh Daniel your kidding right?
      “Labor are starting to get things done”
      ummm they’re in their second term! What an endorsement.

    • MarK says:

      12:15pm | 16/02/11

      I take it as personal compliment and have no qualms at all that pers has taken up my argumentative style.

      Mimicry is the greatest form of flattery - thanks for praise pers.

      (It does help if you have some actual gravitas behind what you are saying though. You tend to look foolish if you can’t back it up with evidence. Style isn’t everything dear.)

    • TimB says:

      12:21pm | 16/02/11

      “Labor is starting to get stuff done”

      “Starting” Daniel? Starting?!

      Good grief. Labor has been in government for over 3 years. Why in hell are they only starting to get things done now?!

      It’s nice of you and Perse to tell us about all the wonderful things Labor are going to do. But you see, it’s all words. It doesn’t mean anything until it actually gets done.
      And despite Persephone’s optimism, much of her post (with very minimal tweaking) could easilly have been written 3 years ago when Kevin Rudd came into office. We were supposed to have all that stuff like ETS schemes and historic health agreements already. It hasn’t happened yet.

      No wonder Persephone is becoming increasingly shrill (:)). More and more people are waking up to Labor’s strategy of over-promise & under-deliver. That’s why their polls keep heading south. Labor are on borrowed time. They need to achieve something significant and show POSITIVE results quick smart, or they’re doomed at the next election, whenever that might be.

    • Daniel says:

      12:25pm | 16/02/11

      Luke: Perhaps you missed the GFC. Were you asleep? Did a government trying to actually do something for the people scare you from your slumber?

    • Ben21 says:

      12:26pm | 16/02/11

      @ Daniel

      Your comment: “after many years of promises, Labor is starting to get things done” - Please wake up to yourself.

    • Dash says:

      01:23pm | 16/02/11

      Of course Daniel, it was the GFC that has made the ALP crap! How silly of me to think they couldn’t organise a root in a brothel when all along it was the GFC.

    • Kelly says:

      04:01pm | 16/02/11

      Persephone

      For Australia’s sake, I hope you’re right, but you will have to forgive me for not holding my breath….

    • persephone says:

      09:04pm | 16/02/11

      MarK

      You think a post of mine is copying your style. You then say the post is foolish.

      You say this because the post lacks evidence.

      Own goal, don’t you think?

    • Steve Smith says:

      10:55am | 16/02/11

      At least now there is some hope that there will be an inprovement in the Hospitals and Health system, where before there was no hope under 12 years of liberal Government

    • Dash says:

      12:51pm | 16/02/11

      That would be the State hospital system would it Steve.  Where did the 100% of GST go Steve!!! NSW - ALP, Vic - ALP, Qld - ALP, SA - ALP. Getting the picture yet? How can you blame Liberal Government for the mess the ALP state governments made of state hospitals?? Rudd promised Federal ownership of hospitals by July 2009 because of the way they were being managed by the states. Remind me who’s been in power there Steve?

    • Ben C says:

      11:32am | 16/02/11

      At what point are Labor going to give us something decent to work with? They make all these promises, deliver a blueprint and celebrate it like as if it’s been executed seamlessly, yet when it comes to the actual execution, it’s all a big balls-up. GroceryWatch, FuelWatch, health reforms, East Timor solution, Resource Super Profits Tax, ETS after Copenhagen - all of these seemed good ideas (at least according to Labor), yet what has happened to them? GroceryWatch and FuelWatch are nowhere to be seen; East Timor solution didn’t even have the consent of East Timor; RSPT became Mineral Resources Rent Tax and veered a fair way off the original intended course; Copenhagen was one big letdown, which put the ETS on life support (which really shoud be turned off by now, and if they’re serious, start planning for it again); and the health reforms originally proposed by Rudd were begrudgingly accepted by the Labor states and rejected by the Liberal state (at the time, only WA was Liberal), now they’ve been completely bastardised by Gillard and most likely going to change AGAIN when NSW becomes Liberal. (I won’t even mention Roxon, she’s got to be the most useless government minister - she can’t even appear in public to announce plans that are under her portfolio.)

      Now, I’ll admit that the Coalition had a few balls-ups as well, most notably WorkChoices. They executed WorkChoices, and were judged on it. Judgement is being delivered in the states currently, but I’ll bet that in 2013, Gillard won’t be the one being judged, as she won’t have her job then. We’ll just have Combet or Shorten (they’re my predictions for the PM’ship) up front, and we’ll get yet another Labor government with yet another PM. The longer we have Labor playing Musical Chairs with the PM’ship, the deeper the hole that Australia is falling in.

      @ Rob r Charteris

      I would like to see you presenting some sort of logic to your support for Labor, just like we on the other side present our reasons for hating Labor. You might not agree with them, but at least we’ve given our reasons in that we just don’t think the ideas presented are good enough. All we see from you - “dribble snivel and delirious spin”. How about you tell us why these Labor ideas are so good? Anthony Albanese would love to have you on his staff with nosthow, the two of you combined can do his attack dog work here on the Punch, just attack the other side for the sake of attacking the other side.

    • Daniel says:

      12:37pm | 16/02/11

      East Timor was never touted as being a 100% go ahead. It was always an option to be discussed with East Timor. Always. However you must have missed that bit while being beaten half to death by the “Stop the Boats!” slogan. Are you also of the opinion that Julia Gillard isn’t fit for office because she has the audacity to process refugees as recommended by the UN?

      Were you awake during the Super Profits fiasco? Did you not witness the absurdity of lies and spin spouted by both the Liberals AND the mining industry AND the ignorant populous? NOW after the NEGOTIATION on the policy, we are getting actual media reports of “Yeah well, the mines are killing it, we could have handled that tax”.

      Now you say the health reform has been bastardised as a result of Liberal states, and again when NSW changes to Liberal. What exactly were you expecting? Are you really that childish to think feet stomping and pouty faces were going to win it and make it all roses? Even now the Liberal states say it’s a great deal, the fool Dutton out of partisan hackery will still vote against it.

      Pathetic. Too many years of Liberal rule has made people forget what it’s like when you try to actually achieve something.

    • MarK says:

      12:56pm | 16/02/11

      What you see here kids is Daniel in denial.

      Note to pers - this is what pure desperation is. When you take the facts and spin like mad.

    • TimB says:

      01:27pm | 16/02/11

      You know what’s kinda awesome MarK?

      Denial is an anagram of Daniel. Wonder if that means anything.

    • Dash says:

      01:49pm | 16/02/11

      Daniel, firstly, here is a direct quote from K Rudd during the 2007 election campaign:

      “Labor’s policy is that if people are intercepted on the high seas, then the vessel should be turned around”

      And Gillard announced the East Timor Solution before the 2010 election without even consulting the government of East Timor! She announced something that never existed!

      And I say again, what did the ALP state governments do with 100% of the GST Daniel? If hospitals were under federal control we wouldn’t be having this debate. State hospitals were neglected by the ALP in Vic, NSW, Qld, SA, NT and Tassie.

      Remind me about the “not negotiable” profits tax again Daniel? And now the mining tax has a $60billion hole in it!

      Just face it, this ALP government is crap!

    • Ben C says:

      02:01pm | 16/02/11

      @ Daniel

      East Timor solution was rejected by East Timor before discussions even took place. I didn’t miss that bit, you must have. I don’t mind that she’s processing refugees (if we must call them that) as recommended by the UN, just use the facilities that are already in place, like Nauru.

      I was indeed wide awake during the Super Profits debate. I just look at the RSPT differently. How would you like to pay even more for your already overpriced electricity supply? How about an increase in fuel prices? What about your gas bill? Because that was going to be one of the effect of the tax, ALL mining and petroleum companies were going to be hit with the tax. Now, with our electricity being produced by coal or gas, how would that sit with you? How would you cook dinner, or pay for meals at restaurants, when gas bills go up because of the tax? Or would you rather our electricity and gas suppliers import their materials, if they aren’t already doing so? OK, we COULD have handled the tax. The problem with the word “could” is that there is a fair amount of uncertainty associated with it as well.

      Health - did you not hear that before they crumbled at Kevvy’s feet, Kristina Kenneally and John Brumby had concerns about the way that Kevvy’s health plan was going to work? Talk about weak Labor leaders. Thankfully, one’s already out and the other’s on her way.

      The Coalition when in government did achieve many things - the introduction of a consumption tax that applied to everybody, and subsequent reductions in income tax, which was also made available by the fact that they repaid all of the Labor debt left to them.

      I will acknowledge what Labor achieved - increasing the availability of computer technology to students, whether by giving away laptops or providing funding for more in-school computers; although BER could have been better handled, such as allowing schools to determine where the money was to be spent, they implemented that and went ahead with it as planned.

      The main concern with this Labor government is that a majority of their flagship promises - those that they announced during the election campaigns of 2007 and 2010 - have been poorly executed, because of poor planning, and in some cases poor design. But I guess that’s what we get with a government that has limited ministerial experience, from the top down. Shame though, that some of our ministers won’t improve with experience, especially those with their own personal agenda (Gillard, Rudd), those with too much union influence (Combet, Shorten), or those that are just plain incompetent (Swan, Garrett, Roxon).

    • Democrat says:

      11:52am | 16/02/11

      What is missing from all the conservative tirade is the fact that Shanahan highlights the fact that the original proposals didn’t get through because of the Liberals -  Roxon claims ‘it’s all the fault of those damn Liberal Premiers.  This is true’!
      So Shanahan gets at least part of the story right. 
      Australia missed out on having the national government provide the majority funding of Health and Hospitals - because of the Liberals.  Listening to the health professionals in the last two days this is the great loss because we have lost the chance of full reform of our health and hospital system.  Something of which most people agree there is an urgent need.
      A highlight of this agreement is the complimentary comments by Barnett and Baillieu about the form of the negotiations with Gillard.  Coming on top of the negotiations with the Independents after the election Gillard is showing her capacity to get things done.
      Tories are becoming ever more shrill about the need to change the government quickly because they can see that by the end of the year there will be a mining tax in place, there will be a resolution on the Murray Darling Basin (based on the Howard Government legislation) and there will be a price on carbon.
      Conservative frustration is on continuous display.  Bring it on.  It’s always fun to watch:).

    • MarK says:

      12:18pm | 16/02/11

      What is missing from your first premise which thus renders the whole argument you have invalid is that both Rudd and Gillard threatened to take GST off the states and force them to do the deal.

      What happened to that?

    • TimB says:

      12:27pm | 16/02/11

      “Butbutbut the LIBERALS!!!”

      I do so enjoy being right.

      A tip to the government: Don’t promise what you have no control over, then whine when it all goes pear-shaped.

    • Dash says:

      01:04pm | 16/02/11

      Another day, another ALP broken promise. I’ve lost count now!!! Have they managed to deliver on any of their promises yet?

      Fulewatch - oops
      Grocery choice- oops
      260 childcare centres - oops
      root and branch tax reform - oops
      more affordable housing - oops
      cheaper better childcare - oops
      no child shall live without a laptop - oops
      ETS - oops
      East Timor Solution - oops
      Epping to Parramatta railway - LOL - oops
      Ceaper books for all Australians - oops
      Abolish compulsory uni union fees - oops
      Coast Guard - oops
      2020 summit - oops
      Public ownership of hospitals by July 2009 - oops
      Cash for clunkers - oops
      Green loans - oops
      Insulation fiasco - oops
      School hall rorts - oops
      Reduce consultancies - oops
      End the blame game - oops
      There will be no carbon tax - oops
      I’m an economic conservative - oops
      I fully support PM Rudd - oops
      Not negotiable profits tax - oops
      “We will keep all of the promises made to the Australian people” - oops sorry “all bets are off”.

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but there appears to be a recurring theme here. It may just be that this government is CRAP!!! I guess that’s why less than a third of voters would vote ALP today! Problem is, they don’t seem to be listening! More socialism is on its way people!

      Are we moving forward yet???

    • Against the Man says:

      01:28pm | 16/02/11

      The funny thing is that Gilltard is laughing her butt off because she managed to screw Kevin and the Australian people and still get rewarded with the job of fake PM. She is collecting a paycheck and hoping to collect a hefty pension for services not delivered! Gilltard is laughing all the way to the bank and the poor Australian people have nothing to show for it. MUHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jedi_T says:

      02:26pm | 16/02/11

      Come on Laborites!
      Defend, Defend!
      I need a laugh!
      It must be hard to support nothing Dash, but they always find a way. I wonder what angle they’ll take this time. Maybe they’ll have a cry about Abbott, perhaps they’ll drag Johnny back? Blame it on Rudd? Tell us the GFC happened again?
      I stand by my early comment, watch this space for a laugh!

    • Christian Real says:

      08:08pm | 16/02/11

      Jedi_T
      If you need a laugh, just replay Tony Abbott speechless and nodding his head up and down.
      That was a classic,Abbott dumbstruck for words.

    • mary monica roche says:

      01:34pm | 16/02/11

      As Tony Abbott says
      “shit happens”

    • mary monica roche says:

      02:15pm | 16/02/11

      With Labor, its not a promise. It is the law”
      Liberals are about promises.
      Labor is about THE LAW.

    • Jedi_T says:

      02:55pm | 16/02/11

      Please clarify what you are talking about mary?

    • TimB says:

      03:28pm | 16/02/11

      Jedi, don’t feed the troll.

      “Mary” is just yet another reincarnation of a serial Labor pest who’s been plaguing the site for the last couple of months. Try a custom google search on http://www.thepunch.com.au in conjunction with the names “jane wallace”, “john tracey”, “sandra nelson”, “kerrie o’rourke”, and “guy lee hanlon”. You’ll soon see what I mean.

      I’ve given up trying to do anything about it. The mods seem quite content to continue to let nonsense like this through. Best to ignore “Mary” and any subsequent personas that are bound to pop up.

    • mary monica roche says:

      03:50pm | 16/02/11

      On her election advertisement on television for the New South Wales State Poll, Kristina Kenneally promises 4 things and finally says
      “This is not an election promise, if I am elected it will be the law”

      so with libs, there are election promises
      with labor, it will be the law.

    • Nigel says:

      08:55pm | 16/02/11

      Like Keatings L.A.W. tax cuts and we all remember how they went!

    • scepticalnotyetcynical says:

      09:44pm | 23/02/11

      Like Laurie Brereton’s promise of a 3 cent petrol levy for 3 years - remember the 3x3 signs with LB’s face on them. Only problem is my understanding of 3 years is somewhat different to the Labor Party’s 3 years. Isn’t it still going after all those many years Mary?

    • TheBruce says:

      05:33pm | 16/02/11

      There is a reason why Roxon is known around Canberra as “Bipolar Nicola” she loves a good tantrum….........

 

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