You really have to wonder how spectacularly insecure or under-endowed a bloke must be if he chooses to demonstrate his masculinity by shooting a majestic animal such as a giraffe or a hippo.

Those bastards in Canberra…Photo: Ray Strange

Yet these are the very people which the self-styled hard man from North Queensland, Bob “No Poofters” Katter, has surrounded himself with as he builds a support base for his fledgling Australia Party.

It is tempting to write Katter off as a harmless nut or an amusing novelty on the political landscape who will never exert any influence over policy. The polls suggest however that his party may poll strongly in his home state at a federal election.

As past election results have shown – the Keating Government being hampered by Western Australian Greens, the Howard Government being reliant on Independent Brian Harradine, the Gillard Government juggling the demands of rural and green independents – the prospect of a tiny number of MPs holding the national agenda to ransom is in no way without precedent.

Katter likes to describe himself as a “frontiersman”. He has affected a strange, Alabama-inspired manner of speech where he says that he is living out on the edges of our vast and daunting continent in the same way that his “pappy and grandpappy” did. He memorably declared some months ago that he would “walk backwards to Bourke” if more than 0.001 per cent of his electorate were, as he likes to put it, poofters. It’s not clear why he was proposing to walk backwards. Perhaps it was to make sure that the poofters didn’t creep up on him and fondle his behind.

For a man oddly fixated on such questions of male identity Katter’s choice of political chums suggests he is something of an enigma, as the blokes he is knocking around with in Queensland have very seriously bent themselves out of shape as they desperately try to prove how macho they are.

Photographs emerged this week of two of Katter’s chief financial and strategic backers posing with the carcasses of African animals they had shot. Katter’s son-in-law, gun dealer Robert Noia, was seen pictured with a scimitar-horned oryx, which is extinct in the wild. Noia has donated $100,000 and office space to the Australia Party, and is also its vice-president.

The oryx which Robert Noia shot was bred in Queensland by a man who wanted to raise a collection of endangered animals to help save the species. Former millionaire Warren Anderson was unable to gain council approval for his plans so he on-sold the animals to a safari park in the Northern Territory which, to his horror, is now giving ponses such as Robert Noia the chance to pay between $50 and $5000 to shoot an oryx in what is laughably described as a “trophy hunt”. And what a hunt it is. As a devastated Warren Anderson told The Australian: “They are shooting my beloved animals. It’s disgusting. These things are in a paddock. You could throw hay out and they would come up to eat it.”

One of Katter’s other big backers is, you guessed it, also a gun dealer. His name is David Auger and he’s the tough guy who was photographed with a giraffe he had just shot dead. As a kindly gesture the Australia Party is sending out free bullets to gun clubs to win their political support.

Katter’s predictable default position is to deride any and all criticism as the whingeing of city-based latte sippers. No amount of latte in the world is as pathetic as the need to prove your toughness by blasting away at an animal that can be hand-fed straw.

Indeed Katter’s entire narrative deserves real scrutiny as he is in a policy sense a galaxy away from the genuine American frontiersmen he so admires, and on whom he likes to model himself. The blokes who opened up America’s west, the libertarian hardliners who today thrive in a state such as Texas, which has no state corporate income tax, are actually at the other end of the ideological spectrum from the likes of Katter.

The former National Party MP is probably the nation’s pre-eminent can-rattler, the definitive agrarian socialist who walked out on the Coalition because it wasn’t handing enough unscrutinised public money to the bush. People such as Katter are the rural equivalent of dole bludgers, who hide their Rolls Royces in the shed when they have a bumper season or when produce prices are high, and demand a special emergency meeting of Federal Cabinet when it rains too much, not enough, or when produce prices fall.

The mythology of Bob Katter is that he just wants government to get out of our lives. The reality is that he yearns for a day when government did everything, when the bush was propped up or unnecessarily lavished by protectionist regimes which made everybody pay more than they needed to for essentials. He is still banging on about the deprivation in the sugar industry which itself was the subject of a very generous $444 million aid package when the Howard Government was in power. That package, framed around a $100 million sugar levy which taxed all of us to the tune of 3 cents a kilogram on sugar, was actually abolished earlier than expected because the price of sugar was so strong during its operation that the suffering forecast by the likes of Katter did not actually materialise.

Hard men? Yeah right. These blokes make us latte-sippers look tough.

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    • Erick says:

      05:18am | 30/10/11

      What is this obsession The Punch has with a couple of Bob Katter’s mates? Seriously, two articles about a non-issue like this?

    • acotrel says:

      06:19am | 30/10/11

      @Erick
      You’ve heard of the ‘loony left’ ?  Well, this is the ‘rabid right’ !
      Keep it under your hat !

    • Chris_D says:

      06:26am | 30/10/11

      I find it hard to be more loathsome about fuckwitts who shoot giraffes and other soft animals from a safe and secure location, but The Punch should either write an article about those type of people or STFU about it.

    • Super D says:

      07:02am | 30/10/11

      The Greens have far more whackos amongst their backers.

    • Dodge says:

      09:28am | 30/10/11

      Oh isn’t that quaint, righties backing up the slaughter of wildlife.

      How pleasantly stereotypical.

    • acotrel says:

      09:40am | 30/10/11

      I had to laugh when John Howard took the guns off the shooters. If there are more whackos amongst the greens, perhaps he should have taken their watering cans away from them also?

    • Erick says:

      09:48am | 30/10/11

      @nihonun - Good catch! I hadn’t noticed that particular sexist slur. I wonder if Mr Penberthy would begin an article about female politicians with a gratuitous remark about the unsatisfactory size of their boobs?

      Just goes to show how thoroughly misandry permeates our society, so often unperceived.

    • Bill says:

      10:47am | 30/10/11

      Super D: Really? Have you even GLANCED at the Ultra-Right? Ever? It’s like playing Spot-The-Egocentric-Shallow-End-Of-The-Gene-Pool-Oooh-I’ve-Got-A-Big-4WD Wanker. At least the Greens are trying to look out for EVERYONE, not just themselves. Wake up and smell the cheese, sweetie!

    • Horns Up says:

      11:15am | 30/10/11

      That’s funny Erick because I would have bet your usual defense of the indefensible would be based on belligerence rather faux bemusement and redirection. So nice work with the change of tact.

      \m/

    • Markus says:

      12:30pm | 30/10/11

      “At least the Greens are trying to look out for EVERYONE, not just themselves.”
      And that is why they are loathed that much more - they insist on trying to look out for everyone despite the fact they have been repeatedly told that we don’t want them to.

    • nihonin says:

      06:11pm | 30/10/11

      David, did I hit a nerve or something, my reply comment to your article seems to have disappeared, or is censorship alive and well at the Punch?  Yet you have left up the reply Erick posted to my comment.

    • Dave says:

      01:26pm | 31/10/11

      Erick, it goes like this: a black african can get away with calling another black african a nigger - a white guy cant. Jewish people can generally cast anti-semitic slurs at each other with abandon (see, for example, “the self-hating jew”, although there are plenty of others). And a woman can have a crack at another woman and its impossible to say thats sexist. Its about context, see? In context comments arent sexist or racist or whatever because, in context, its impossible to talk down to a person in the same group.  Its not rocket science, this context stuff. Its why I can point out the small size of your pecker or call you a whigga (if appropriate) without having to worry too much about being called racist or sexist. It may offend you but at least youre being addressed as an equal individual and not as just a faceless stereotyped person in a stereotyped collective. That help any, young padawan?

    • Erick says:

      03:05pm | 31/10/11

      @DAve - Wrong. Racism is still racism, and sexism is still sexism. Being a member of the group you hate doesn’t exempt you - it just means you have self-loathing issues.

    • Dave says:

      06:18pm | 31/10/11

      Erick. Bullshit. “self loathing issues”? Are you slow or something? Give me an example of these “self loathing issues”, champ. Id like to hear this.

    • Erick says:

      08:23pm | 31/10/11

      @Dave - If you hate a group of which you’re a member, then you necessarily hate yourself to the extent that you are a member of the group you hate. Thus, for example, if you are a white man and you hate “white men”, you will at some level incorporate yourself into this categorical hatred. That, then, becomes an issue of self loathing.

    • RyaN says:

      09:12pm | 31/10/11

      @Dave: Here let me make it simple for you since it seems it needs to be simple.
      You open up a job, you are a white male, you interview people but turn away whites and males instead insisting this job is for black females.
      You get reported for racism / sexism. What do you think the result might be?

    • Boob Cater. says:

      09:16pm | 31/10/11

      @eric, Seriously, read both then winged. Your comments are a non issue. Ps: grow an education or at least stop hiding behind big words. If the sword is to heavy, try a lighter one, like a sharp pencil.

    • Leah says:

      10:30pm | 31/10/11

      Erick - “Wrong. Racism is still racism, and sexism is still sexism. Being a member of the group you hate doesn’t exempt you - it just means you have self-loathing issues.”

      That’s rubbish. I might make a crack about women, or my red-headed friends might make a crack about red-heads, or my irish friend might make a crack of irish. None of us hate the group we belong to. We just think the jokes are funny. It has nothing to do with self-loathing. Get real.

    • Erick says:

      07:08am | 01/11/11

      @Leah - I’m not talking about light-hearted jokes. I’m talking about bigoted put-downs, and ideologies of collective blame. Big difference.

    • S(r)ambo says:

      03:01pm | 13/01/12

      Im black, half my mates are white, the only people hated under the title"white man” are the likes of erick, you know the types that make white look evil, cant wait for the priviledged generations to disappear, the amount of whinging from them just got aussies the biggest whingers in the world title, thanks erick, you show young generations how NOT to turn out, bitter but have it all fall in your lap, the only hard thing you deal with is what shares to buy

    • S(r)ambo says:

      03:12pm | 13/01/12

      Hard men? For real, if their so hard lets see them get rich without using stolen land, more like grubby users and abusers

    • Freeman says:

      06:04am | 30/10/11

      We already have the communists, who pretend to be enviromentalists, doing their best to bring the country down from the inside. why not add Bob Katter’s party for some balance? and I don’t see the need to attack Katter over his sponsor’s actions unless his party was predominantly pushing for change to gun laws. every political party receives donations from some fairly questionable sponsors.

    • acotrel says:

      06:22am | 30/10/11

      Oh No ! ! - Not commie-phobia AGAIN ?
      You just don’t get it do you?  The cold war is over - WE WON !

    • Mitchell says:

      09:13am | 30/10/11

      The commies are back? Dammit, where’s McCarthy when you need him?

    • Freeman says:

      09:53am | 30/10/11

      That’s right, Acotrel

      The Greens, if they had their way, would control media content and happily enforce their marginal view on the rest of the population. to hell with democracy they say. So why is it ok to have the greens but not Bob Katter’s Australia party?

    • acotrel says:

      10:53am | 30/10/11

      @Freeman
      And what would Tony Abbott do ? -  Turn Australia into a catholic church run state ?

    • Erick says:

      05:24am | 31/10/11

      @acotrel - Oh no, not Catholic-phobia again?

      You just don’t get it do you? The Reformation is over - we won!

    • S(r)ambo says:

      03:09pm | 13/01/12

      The left want to dictate the media, the right do dictate to the media, media ownership in Aus is a joke like the right, they are full of liars, claiming they want free speech but sue the first chance they get

    • onlooker says:

      06:17am | 30/10/11

      I am still in shock of the Giraffe, I think it is horrible

    • Barbara says:

      05:47pm | 30/10/11

      I know they’re not as cute and cuddly as a Giraffe, but how about the poor defenseless cows, chickens, sheep and pigs slaughtered in their thousands to supply you and I meat for our dinner table?  They are hardly given a fighting chance when they are cornered in a pen and a lethal blow is dealt.  Lets get some perspective back into the argument.

    • marley says:

      06:30pm | 30/10/11

      @Barabara - yes, lets.  We kill beef or sheep or pigs for food.  Not for fun and fancy photos.

    • Warren says:

      10:40am | 31/10/11

      The Giraffe’s along with the cows, sheep, pigs & chickens are all killed for commercial reasons and under strict controls - there’s the perspective.  The meat from the Giraffe is sold to locals, so nothing goes to waste.  It can cost up to $20000 to participate in one of these shoots.  The reason the animals are shot under controlled conditions is so that they are killed humanely and not just wounded to die a slow death in the bush somewhere.

    • John Paul Jones says:

      08:03am | 30/10/11

      Recently, the current Premier of Victoria put some Laws behind the treatment of animals, namely dogs and what represent humane conditions that they are breed under. Which I applaud. However, I find it curious that people who aspire to lead in the community, such as Bob Katter and Robert Noia get any where near that opportunity. Teachers and other professions require a working with children check, surely a human that picks up a rifle and shoots a defenceless animal requires some intense scrutiny at a number of levels. I don`t think you would have to dig too deep into the mind of these two rocket scientists to find some find real potential and history of real acts of cruelty. Erick these types of people are a real issue.

    • Erick says:

      09:50am | 30/10/11

      @John Paul Jones - Interesting point. Do you think the same sort of analysis should apply to women who kill a defenceless foetus?

    • palone says:

      10:28am | 30/10/11

      Erick, you are a strange person. A woman should decide what happens to their own body. Doesn’t a bloke have the right to a quick snip?
      I thought you would be pro-abortion, given that more than 50% of the foetuses would be female. But you, as usual, get carried away with your own admiration of your own words. “Defenceless foetus”? Does that mean that the foetus that can protect itself is fair game?
      That lady of your past must have really done you like a dinner.

    • John Paul Jones says:

      10:47am | 30/10/11

      Erick.
      Each case on its merits. Terminations take place for many reasons, the conceptions some times come about via rape etc. Very complex issue. I trust the judgement of the women/people involved. The murder of a defenceless animal as depicted ( giraffe ) draws comparisons for me with war time death camps and the overseers in charge. I find it repulsive. I do not relate to your comments at all!!!

    • Erick says:

      11:08am | 30/10/11

      @John Paul Jones - You have nicely illustrated your double standards. It’s fine for women to kill human foetuses, because they have “many reasons”. But men who kill animals are like the overseers of wartime death camps!

      Clearly, for you, the life of an animal is worth more than that of a human. And that’s species discrimination.

    • Rose says:

      01:00pm | 30/10/11

      Erick you are a fool. To compare abortion (something I am not really in favour of) and the killing of rare animals in a pretend hunt is ridiculous. Women don’t tend to use abortion to big note themselves and I’m not aware of any that took ‘trophy photos’ of themselves sitting proudly with the dead foetus. Women who have had abortions don’t tend to pretend they are somehow more female because they killed something that never had a chance anyway, they are more likely to mourn the loss and the situations that led to the decision to abort. This is just another example of Erick being ignorant to anything outside his pathetic anti-female stance.

    • Erick says:

      01:45pm | 30/10/11

      @Rose - Iguess it might not be completely appropriate to compare abortion with hunting. After all, a hunted animal at least has the possibility of going somewhere else, away from the hunter. A foetus can’t move, and is therefore a much easier target.

      Hunting animals is an optional endeavour, which some men might choose to take up. But feminists seem to worship abortion, and consider it the most fundamental right of all. It’s like a sacrament to them.

      Why do they condemn the killing of animals, while supporting the killing of babies? Who knows - it’s all bloodthirsty craziness to me.

    • gobsmack says:

      03:14pm | 30/10/11

      The difference between a foetus and a full grown animal is that one is an independent sentient being whereas the other is a collection of cells.
      And as Rose points out women who have abortions don’t do it for sport.

    • marley says:

      03:47pm | 30/10/11

      @Erick - I don’t think your analogy is a fair one at all. 

      While I’m not a hunter myself, I know people who are, and I have no conceptual difficulty with the concept of people hunting for food.  Indigenous people in many parts of the world rely on game, and plenty of rural (and not so rural) folk hunt game or ducks (or fish, for that matter) for the dinner table.  That’s a very different thing from just shooting semi-tame animals for fun.

      And that’s where your comparison to abortion falls down.  I doubt that many women get a “kick” out of having an abortion.  It’s a serious business, and most women, I’m sure, give it serious thought.  They see it, rightly or wrongly, as a necessity.  Shooting giraffes hardly falls into that category.  Shooting deer or ducks for dinner might.

    • B says:

      09:17pm | 30/10/11

      @gobsmack

      Really?  They are sentient?  Come speak to me when you get one of them to have a conversation.  Its the humans who are sentient, not the animal.  You need to look up the meaning mate. You shot down your own argument.

    • gobsmack says:

      11:04pm | 30/10/11

      @B
      You really should consult a dictionary before accusing someone else of misconstruing the meaning of a word.
      Sentient means having the power of sense perception or sensation; conscious.
      While you are looking in your dictionary, also look up “foolish” and “embarrassment”.

    • Alf says:

      08:24am | 31/10/11

      How about a compromise.  Katter’s dumb mates should not shoot foetuses either. Happy now Erick?

    • Brett says:

      11:42am | 31/10/11

      @gobsmack
      “Sentient means having the power of sense perception or sensation; conscious.” - Doesn’t that by definition mean that a foetus is sentient and not a “collection of cells”? The Foetus senses and reacts to sound, light, touch and all sorts.

      So that kinda screws your argument up

    • gobsmack says:

      03:28pm | 31/10/11

      @Brett
      A plant reacts to light.  Microbes react to various stimuli.  Note also the word “conscious”.
      So no, it doesn’t “kinda” screw my argument up.

    • Joan says:

      08:04am | 30/10/11

      Does anyone apart from a country bumpkin take Katter seriously?. The guy has always run a sideshow in politics even when he was a member of National Party- at least NP gave him credibilty. He still had some cred as Independent but lost it all by ten gallon hat headed thinking he`s gonna save Australia with his root`n toot’`n shoot`n gun toting party. His party looks and sounds like something from yesteryears vaudeville with stage master and clown Katter presenting the show. Is this the best Katter has to offer in the 21st century?

    • Boh Jjekle-Peter'sSon says:

      10:37am | 30/10/11

      National Party? Credibility? Ha! Love your wrok Joan….watch out Adam Hills and Wil Anderson, your jobs are in jeopardy

    • BarraBob says:

      08:11am | 30/10/11

      ‘No amount of latte in the world is as pathetic as the need to prove your toughness by blasting away at an animal that can be hand-fed straw”
      Doesn’t this quote sum up the Labor Governments attitude to the Australian taxpayer.  Comments about 3cents a kilogram tax on sugar to sudsidise farmers when the government is planning a who knows what amount of tax to reduce the temperature of the globe seems to me to be a biased arguement. Katter like so many other Australians cannot see the need to import bananas from the Phillipines, potatoes from China and apples from New Zealand and you seem to wonder why farmers do it tough. You need to buy a farm Penbo get a reality check and it may reduce your dependence on the latte.

    • ROdget says:

      10:07am | 30/10/11

      Well, I’d love the government to make everyone buy their goods and services from my business instad of my competition, but you might have noticed we live in a capitalist society - the whole damn point is competition, and if I am not making it in the industry I am in - I can’t just whinge to the government to save me, I need to change industries.

    • acotrel says:

      10:59am | 30/10/11

      @Barrabob
      So all the neoliberal free market stuff is a crock of shit ?

    • Rocksteady says:

      08:26am | 30/10/11

      I like the title, much better than the syndicated versions in the papers.

    • Al says:

      08:32am | 30/10/11

      Don’t judge them by your own insecurities David, anyone can call them names.

      If you’re so put out by their words and actions, stand against them and let the Australian public decide.  With the groundswell of disgust against our current crop of polies don’t be surprised if they do better than One Nation and you’re swept aside.

    • mick says:

      08:36am | 30/10/11

      Hey David didn’t we do the Bob Katter giraffe killer thing a couple of days ago?

      Have a go at Tony Abbott for a change.  The opposition has done a lot wrong, told a lot of fibs, seems to be bullet proof and is plotting to rout Australian wage and salary earners.  Perspective needs to return to the political debate lest all Australians get the government they don’t want but thoroughly deserve.

    • VVS says:

      08:37am | 30/10/11

      Agreed.

      I’m more worried about Penbo’s admission that he drinks lattes… eck!

    • fox says:

      08:40am | 30/10/11

      ” or under-endowed a bloke must be “

      Why the sexist attack? If a female politician seems insecure, do you make negative comments about her breasts being too small, or her vagina being too large?

      I’m being serious. Why the double standard?

    • acotrel says:

      10:01am | 30/10/11

      There’s no double standard.  The other day there were people commenting in the size of Julia’s curtsy ! That’s just as petty and immature !

    • Erick says:

      10:22am | 30/10/11

      Well, said, fox.

      Acotrel - You are being irrelevant and incoherent, as usual. A curtsy is an action, not a physical component of a persons body.

    • acotrel says:

      11:09am | 30/10/11

      @Erick
      Is the protocol for meeting the Queen sexist ?
      We already know from the budgie smuggler photos and his comments, just how big Tony Abbott’s dick is.  We didn’t see him curtsy to the queen, so we couldn’t criticise that !

    • Erick says:

      11:22am | 30/10/11

      @acotrel - Why are you so obsessed with dicks?

    • Erick says:

      11:26am | 30/10/11

      And in particular, acotrel, why do you have such an obsession with Tony Abbott and the size of his dick? You bring up Tony Abbott in every thread, no matter what the subject. And you go on about “budgie smuggler photos” ...

    • Douglas says:

      12:19pm | 30/10/11

      Now we know the reason for Erick’s obsessive self pity, which he brings up in every thread, no matter what the subject.

    • palone says:

      12:50pm | 30/10/11

      Erick, you must get a bit of “fair go” into your life.
      Acotrel, like myself, thinks ‘Abbott’ and writes ‘prick’. Its a bit like auto-suggestion, or the association of ideas. Not being a writer you may not have encountered these terms, so I shall explain.
      I say, “Don Bradman!”. You immediately think of a bloke in cricket gear. You say, “Prick!”. I immediately see a picture of Abbott in his underwear. Understand?
      By the way Erick, I asked you about three months ago for an instance of the Leader of the Opposition taking part in a high-risk lifesaving incident. I must have missed “The Punch” edition that showed your response. Would you re-do it for me, there’s a good fellow.
      And ‘Fox’, I guess you must have missed the hundreds of references to the lovely Ms Gillard’s derriere being too large, or her hair being too red, or her nose being too long, or the fact of her simply being a woman.
      Perhaps Abbott, with his “manly” poses protests too much. Perhaps you are a fool.

    • Martin says:

      12:56pm | 30/10/11

      @Erick, re acotrel, it’s a Labor disease. The brainwashing starts at school and the daft ones stick with the program for life, the smart ones see through the socialist nonsense and move on. You’ve either got to laugh at them or feel sorry for them. With acotrel you simply have to laugh, the BS he posts at times is breathtaking.

      As for the Abbott thing, yes it is a most concerning obsession isn’t it. Now that acotrel has moved on to discussing the size of the tool, hmmmm…...............................one must wonder what’s going on there?

    • palone says:

      01:55pm | 30/10/11

      Erick is, apart from my eight-year-old grandson, the only person I know who can declare a comment incoherent, and then write an irrelevant critique of it. Incoherent, Erick? But you understood every word of it. Didn’t you?

    • Joan says:

      03:00pm | 30/10/11

      @Erick, re Martin, it’s a Liberal disease. The brainwashing starts at school and the daft ones stick with the program for life, the smart ones see through the fascist nonsense and move on. You’ve either got to laugh at them or feel sorry for them. With Martin you simply have to laugh, the BS he posts at times is breathtaking.

      As for the Abbott thing, yes it is a most concerning obsession isn’t it. Now that you’ve moved on to discussing the size of the tool, hmmmm…...............................one must wonder what’s going on there?

    • Martin says:

      03:33pm | 30/10/11

      @Palone “Understand”? No we don’t understand actually Palone, not many people would. I guess you have to have Labor disease to pick up on these tit bits.  Both your good self and Acotrel seem to able to produce these bizarre and abstract posts the meaning of which could be only be known by yourselves.

    • gobsmack says:

      07:46pm | 30/10/11

      @fox
      I suppose if women used vagina substitutes to slaughter animals you might have a point.
      As John Lennon once observed “happiness is a warm gun”.

    • OchreBunyip says:

      08:03pm | 30/10/11

      One man’s obsessive self-pity is another man’s commitment to raising awareness of misandry.

    • B says:

      09:22pm | 30/10/11

      @Joan

      Oh thats real clever!!  Feel proud?

    • Erick says:

      05:27am | 31/10/11

      @gobsmack - If you think a gun is a substitute for a penis, there’s something very wrong with your idea of what a penis is for.

    • gobsmack says:

      07:01am | 31/10/11

      @Erick
      Like an erect penis, a gun is a hard tubular object that when held in the hand and discharged gives its user pleasure.

    • Erick says:

      07:23am | 31/10/11

      Haha, gobsmack, that’s cute.

      But, putting aside witty wordplay, the nature, role and function of the two things are very different. Calling something a “penis substitute”, unless it’s a dildo, is a trite sexist put-down with no real meaning.

    • Douglas says:

      09:10am | 31/10/11

      No matter what the subject, Ochrebunyip. At least now we know the reason for it.

    • Joan says:

      09:11am | 31/10/11

      @ B   Thanks very much. Yes, I do. How about you?

    • Lee Enfield says:

      08:41am | 30/10/11

      Yet not a word about the tobacco industry funding , I hate cigarettes Nicola Roxon. Where is the scrutiny and labelling of the politicians and parties that accept donations from tobacco, alcohol and gambling companies. Where is the scrutiny and labelling of politicians and parties who accept donations from land developers, religious groups, Unions and mining organisations.

      The politicians and parties that accept donations from these companies and organisations are a greater threat to this country than a politican and party that accepts donations from people who like to shoot. The Tobacco, Alcohol, Gambling, Land Developers, Reglious groups, Unions and Mining organisations/companies, all try to change/enact laws and influence policy, the donations from the companies/organisations with vested interests are the greatest threat to Australia and Australian’s.

      If you are so worried about the cute and cuddly animals, then you should scrutinise and label the politicians and parties that accept donations from the above named companies/organisations. How many cute and cuddly Australian animals are killed through loss of habitat as result of policies and laws enacted which benefit these companies/organisations. Yet you are focusing on a party and politician who receives donations from a couple of guys who shoot a few animals now and then, all because they are killing non Australian cute and cuddly animals,

      Just on a side note, trying to imply through the use of the term Gun Dealers, that these two men are into illegal arms trading is dubious at best, but more likely cynical. Nioa sells weapons, body armour, ammunition and other tactical equipment to both the Australian military and Australian Law Enforcement agencies.

    • Rose says:

      12:43pm | 30/10/11

      Are you kidding? There are endess stories done about donations to all the political parties and also which lobby groups get the inside track with the various politicians. Katter is only being held up to the same scrutiny as everyone else. This is more than fair as it seems possible his party may have considerable sway in the QLD Parliament after the election. God help Queensland is all the rest of us can possibly say about that!!

    • marley says:

      09:22am | 30/10/11

      Geez, I get the impression that an awful lot of people missed the point of the article, which isn’t about shooting giraffes.  It’s about the conflict between the mythical image Katter has created of himself as the tough, uncompromising spokesman for frontier Australia, and the reality that his platform consists almost entirely of demanding that all those self-sufficient, tough-as nails farmers should get taxpayer handouts and tariff walls to protect them from the reality of competition and climate.  Perhaps they should, but lets not pretend that Katter is any different from any other welfare advocate.

    • Erick says:

      09:52am | 30/10/11

      Well marley, if that was the point of the article, the author should have written about it - instead of animals and penises.

    • Andrew says:

      10:52am | 30/10/11

      Nice to see that someone got the point of the article. It just goes to show how pathetic education in this country has become that people can’t comprehend the meaning of articles sufficiently to understand when a writer uses sentences more advanced than “There is Spot. Spot is a dog.” Either that or the intelligence of people who comment on news articles is disproportionate to that of the general public. Yes I understand the irony of that comment, but being as irony is not explicit, I am banking on people not understanding that there even was any irony, or even what irony is for that matter.

    • acotrel says:

      11:04am | 30/10/11

      @marley
      The QANTAS dispute will bring some reality to the free market situation.  It’s about time we had that debate, and sorted the protectionist aspects out.

    • acotrel says:

      11:13am | 30/10/11

      @Andrew
      ‘people can’t comprehend the meaning of articles sufficiently to understand when a writer uses sentences more advanced than “There is Spot. Spot is a dog.”

      Erick ? - It has to be written in braille !

    • Erick says:

      01:55pm | 30/10/11

      That’s all very nice and all, but how does it relate to the main topics of this article - which consist of animals and penises?

    • Troll-Ra says:

      03:27pm | 31/10/11

      Erick you should enter the Troll Olympics. I love your style. I really do. You’re going to need to train though kid. No one is going to believe that you are stupid enough to think this article was about male genitalia. But some of your other stuff on this site? Beautiful. Nuanced stupididty that is truly hilarious to read. And you’ve got everyone thinking that you are actually being serious. Keep it up kid, keep it up.

    • LDLS says:

      10:00am | 30/10/11

      Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t you just take an opinion piece, remove the foul language and change the writer’s name from Tory to David? Must be a lazy Sunday.smile

    • Kevin Bloody Mackey says:

      10:53am | 30/10/11

      Gee punch, do you know what a straw man fallacy is? Katter may or may not be a good leader, but it has little to do with the penchants of his financial advisers. http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=straw man fallacy&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CC8QFjAB&url=http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html&ei=7p-sToLLIYGsiAfYo-3BDw&usg=AFQjCNFRdyz5E4U0hgJwDJC199MNDsHWJg&cad=rja

    • Horns Up says:

      03:03pm | 30/10/11

      One of these gun “enthusiasts” is the vice president of Katter’s Aussie “No Poofters” Party, I fail to see how questioning the credentials of senior party figures is a “straw man”.

      \m/

    • Lapun says:

      11:05am | 30/10/11

      David, if you were one of Katter’s coastal constituents, who get no benefit from his representation, and wish to heaven we didn’t have to compete with his redneck friends when voting, you would never see him as a harmless nut.    NUT yes - HARMLESS no!

    • Alan and Anita says:

      01:02pm | 30/10/11

      Reading page 54 of todays Sunday Mail/Insight:We cant understand how anybody can be so proud and get pleasure from shooting a giraffe,even though they are a large animal they are harmless;You are a real hero David Auger of the Queensland Gun Exchange next time you get your photo as a backer of Queensland MP Bob Katter,you might find two brain cells one being yours

    • Chris says:

      09:45pm | 30/10/11

      I can not understand how homosexuals get sexual pleasure from a person of the same sex either. But I am not calling for it to be banned. I hope all you anti hunters are vegetarian, or you are hypocrites. I think the discrimination should stop and we should all accept each other and stop trying to control others lives. It is a free country is it not?
      By the way what have you done to conserve African wildlife? David would have paid well over $10,000 for that hunt of an old male Giraffe and the proceeds went to conservation.

    • Daemon says:

      06:25am | 01/11/11

      Alan and Anita, stop it.

      You made Chrissy cry.

    • Bris Jack says:

      01:49pm | 30/10/11

      The party should be renamed The Katter Family Party.
      Bob’s song and dance wasn’t about the party it was about my son Robbie.
      Katter family businesses, bring on the ethonal debate.

      “Scrutiny”  Katter can never finishes a sentence.

    • Chris says:

      01:56pm | 30/10/11

      Its interesting how city based people who probably think they are greenies know nothing about conservation. Both the Giraffe and scimitar-horned oryx are being conserved by their hunting. Don’t you people know anything about sustainable usage. The scimitar-horned oryx is actually extinct in the wild and populations have been bred and maintained because of hunters, otherwise it would either be extinct or in a couple of inbred unsustainable small populations in zoos. The harvest of a few older males pays for large heards of many animals to be maintained which otherwise would be wiped out.
      The pathetic attack on people spending their money on these species is very short sighted. Perhaps you think the Oryx should be given back to Warren Anderson who was starving them to death. Since the current owner bought them the scimitar-horned oryx their numbers have more then doubled and the few which have been shot have paid for that. It is called sustainable use.

    • marley says:

      05:49am | 31/10/11

      @Chris - not going to argue with anything else you said, but if I recall, Anderson was cleared of that allegation - he was set up by one of his employees, if memory serves.

    • DEN says:

      09:17am | 31/10/11

      sustainable use IS IT ? WELL WE HAVE AN OVERPOPULATED PARLIAMENT, WHY NOT START THE CULLING WITH KATTER.

    • Chris says:

      09:24pm | 03/11/11

      Marley, thats right he was not starving them he was going to shoot them and was stopped before he could carry it out. Funny how he is now against any shooting.

      Den, murder is where animals rights groups stoop to as they are a violent criminal group without morals.

    • grant says:

      02:23pm | 30/10/11

      Bob Katter is a disturbing and troubled individual.

    • stephen says:

      07:05pm | 30/10/11

      Maybe what this country needs ; a simple or a neurotic individual.
      He’s quite silly - no doubt about it - yet he may upset the Libs and isolate the independants, (isn’t that what we need ?) and Abbott will have to either match his energy, or force Julia to establish a truly left-wing Party.
      It’s time to decide.

    • Amuse Bouche says:

      02:37pm | 30/10/11

      Why does any discussion of hunting and hunters always come back to suggestions of penile impropriety? People have been killing things since time immemorial; surely if the world is as you suggest Mr Penberthy, there must have been an awful lot of unsatisfied prehistoric women. And I take it all those Africans who hunt giraffe, elephants, hippos, and otherwise, must by your logic have tiny cocks too?

      To liberate some words you wrote on Friday: “One of the interesting features of modern public debate is the emergence of a small army of thin-skinned souls on permanent stand-by to be offended by pretty much everything.” I suppose that extends to journalists, too.

    • DaveP says:

      02:54pm | 30/10/11

      What has the “LEGAL” shooting of a animals (wether its moral isnt really relevant from a political persective as little in politics is moral) got to do with wether an elected representiative is any good or not???? You dont have to like Bob Katter or his party and as such YOU can choose NOT to vote for it but it is up to the electorate as to what happens ... If that doesnt suite YOU then maybe you should consider moving to North Korea or some other non democratic country.
      Lets face some facts here you dont have to like the Greens or the Libs or Labour that is not what a democracy is about but you have to accept the decision.
      Is it right that Tasmania, South Australia & WA have the same number of senators as NSW & Vic yet have a much smaller population is that proportional representation???? Is it right that minor parties can gain the balance of power based on a lower percenatges of votes in those small population states????
      You people dont deserve to have a democracy to live in when all you can do is use your right to free expression to complain about someones free expression ... then again its easy when that democracy was paid for with other peoples blood ... Freedom isnt free and democracy may at times mean you have to face something you dont like but its better than the alternative.
      Get over yourselves and find something worthwhile to write about

    • palone says:

      05:23pm | 30/10/11

      DaveP, you do understand that the word ‘wether’ is a description of a type of sheep, don’t you. Like you.
      You follow a fool and you are a fool, but no explanation is going to alter your understanding any more than a session with Katter is going to alter your opinion of him.
      Did you ever go to school, or did you learn your lessons at the foot of Pappy Dave, like Katter the Afghan did.
      It’s very difficult to understand why a racist, redneck, rabid, result of the National Party could be against the Australian welcoming of disenfranchised foreigners when his own family were given exactly that welcome. They came as camel herders. And I think that their arrival was beneficial to this Nation. And I applaud that contribution.
      What I, and many others, resent is that these people then abuse our hospitality by declaring that visitors are unwelcome.
      Katter’s mob, the gung-ho slaughterers of animals that don’t have a gun, (that makes it easy for the the Machos, doesn’t it), would welcome a return to the “good old days” when aboriginals were a ‘huntable’ prey.
      I’ve met Katter. My children have met Katter. My son said simply, “Dad, I don’t like that bloke. He wants me to hate my mates”.
      And he actually has support in this beautiful Country for his racist, Southern baptist, views. Perhaps I, and people like me, should just give up.

    • Yosemite Sam says:

      03:42pm | 30/10/11

      All those in a lather about a giraffe being shot - go and do some research into African Game hunting. It’s not to everybody’s taste but that’s diversity for you.
      As for the anti shooting lobby’s obsession with small penises, I think that shows the mindset we shooters are up against. If any of you bothered to spend some time looking objectively at the issues the pervasive anti hunting, anti gun hysteria would fade away overnight. It seems that shooters are the new gays ! We’re getting relentlessly vilified in the media, by people who think they have some moral obligation to save our society from a harmless minority. Every time drug dealers and bikies start shooting it out on the streets, doing drive bys etc out come the hand wringers “ban guns” “anybody who owns a gun must have a small penis” “there’s no place for guns in our community” and so on. And woe betide any politicians who side with LAFO’s ! It’s because of the gun control lobby that firearm ownership is becoming a political issue. We shooters vote, work, pay tax and comply with a lot of onerous and ineffective laws in order to pursue whatever aspect/s of the shooting sports we choose. The fact that the Punch hacks are so intent on playing the man instead of the ball shows the strength of their argument. The fact that Katter’s party is gaining some traction shows just how disillusioned voters are with the other political parties

    • John Paul Jones says:

      08:13pm | 30/10/11

      @SAM
      Target shooting at the Olympics or local gun clubs whatever. Each to their own. However, high powered weapons against a clearly under equipped trophy surely is not a fair match. I am not aware of anti-gun hysteria of any kind in the community I live in, because there aren`t any guns or the need for them. Country areas have a requirement for firearms for which I am sure is required as part of their business. Killing for sport as in the case of game hunting, may inject some monetary advantage that assists with the management and numbers of particular species but as previously stated I have concerns about the mind set of the individual who can take aim and kill an animal and boast any form of skill or bravery.

    • John Paul Jones says:

      08:13pm | 30/10/11

      @SAM
      Target shooting at the Olympics or local gun clubs whatever. Each to their own. However, high powered weapons against a clearly under equipped trophy surely is not a fair match. I am not aware of anti-gun hysteria of any kind in the community I live in, because there aren`t any guns or the need for them. Country areas have a requirement for firearms for which I am sure is required as part of their business. Killing for sport as in the case of game hunting, may inject some monetary advantage that assists with the management and numbers of particular species but as previously stated I have concerns about the mind set of the individual who can take aim and kill an animal and boast any form of skill or bravery.

    • MK says:

      09:56pm | 30/10/11

      Katter’s pretense to any sort of affinity with the average Australian is laughable. The bloke has been a professional politician for the best part of four decades.

      Sadly it hasn’t stopped him peddling an infantile brand of jingoistic bullshit -  based primarily on an antiquated view of Australian-ness as synonymous with boiling billies, rearing cattle and shooting shit.

      The crazed smile and wild eyes on show the other week as he honked his way through his obviously self penned party anthem were evidence that the man is devolving at a rate of knots.

      At this rate it won’t be long before he calls a press conference to announce that he is actually the secret love child of Napoleon Bonaparte and an english muffin.

    • DEN says:

      07:02am | 31/10/11

      katter is a DICK, WHAT A WANKER.

    • Den says:

      07:36am | 31/10/11

      G U N - GUTLESS UNDERmanED NUT e
                -            -                    -

    • Gerry says:

      08:13am | 31/10/11

      David, your comments on Katter interest me little but the complete rubbish you write about rural protectionism should be challenged. Where are all these Rolls Royces in the country? All dealerships are to be found in the cities. A long way to take them for a service, don’t you think? Please check out the ABS figures on post code household incomes and tell me where rural areas rank. There was never a situation under any price support for agricultural commodities that lead to consumers paying more than than overseas consumers. The schemes were based on import parity pricing, in other words, the product plus freight landed at our ports. We have moved to an export parity price system where an Australian consumer gets the product at port based prices, no freight. In thirty years of farming I cannot remember any import tariffs on imported food but I can remember tariffs to protect our city based manufacturing industries. There is no protection for farmers from fair or unfair food imports and we pay the costs for our inputs at Australian prices, not Chinese, Indian, Brazilian, South African or American rates. In a fair world I would be able to get wages and costs at a world market rate. How much does a Journo earn in Kolkata, David?
      Please enjoy the abundant, high quality and relatively cheap food supplied to you by Aussie farmers. I have to go now and take the Roller to Toorak for a tune up.

    • Alf says:

      08:15am | 31/10/11

      The combined IQ of the Nationals increase with each defection to Sidshow Bob’s bumbkin party.

    • Levi says:

      08:42am | 31/10/11

      Giraffes are ranked on the IUCN red list as an animal of least concern in terms of species survival, the same as the evil flying foxes. It really makes no difference if you shoot one of them. The problem with you hippies is you think its a “majestic” animal. A giraffe will kick you to death as readily as a flying fox will scratch you and give you a virus. I always enjoy how condescending Penbo’s articles are. I think he’s the one with the insecurities given how vigorously he defends his latte sipping ways.

    • Shane* says:

      12:40pm | 31/10/11

      Spot on. What makes an animal “majestic” anyway? Giraffes are lanky unco bastards. There are plenty of them. Hippos are evil, ugly, aggressive, murderous and they’re not really all that close to extinction either.

      Folks overseas think we’re loopy for shooting Roos, even when we know that it’s sensible to do so. If I think the ants you squash underfoot are majestic because I’m an entomologist, does that mean I can consider you a lunatic for walking on the pavement?

      Basing an article around the assumptions that are shown here is just plain lazy.

    • Michael Larkin says:

      08:57am | 31/10/11

      Why is it that every attack on an extreme side of politics is always blamed on being from completely the opposite side. I dislike Bob Katter, for much the same reasons listed in this article. However, I also dislike the Greens in much the same way.


      There is such a phenomenon as moderates.

    • Anonymous says:

      10:07am | 31/10/11

      The general message I got behind this article was:

      “Bob Katter and his cronies are a gaggle of backwards-thinking, homophobic and sadistic sacks of festering shit.”

      I, for one approve of this message.

    • Loxy says:

      10:31am | 31/10/11

      I second that approval!

    • Erick says:

      11:33am | 31/10/11

      Mindless name-calling makes no useful contribution to a discussion.

    • Anonymous says:

      11:50am | 31/10/11

      Shut up, Erick, you big fat stupidhead.

    • Yosemite Sam says:

      10:08am | 31/10/11

      @ John Paul Jones - give the giraffe some credit ! they don’t just stand around waiting to be shot or jumped by LIons.. all animals have some sensory and/or physical advantages over a hunter. And what’s with the emotive term “high powered weapons” ? it is cruel to shoot any animal with an under powered weapon - the main aim of an ethical hunter is to ensure a clean and quick kill, not to make the prey suffer for some perverse thrill. There’s an old quote from a famous hunter “use enough gun”
      There are plenty of urban hunters - we can’t all live in the country, and own thousands of acres. I wonder where you live - how do you know that there aren’t several hunters within a 1km radius of your house ?
      Your comment about hunters who “boast any form of skill or bravery” is wide of the mark, you are prejudiced by your beliefs. That’s simply not what it’s about for the vast majority of hunters. It’s a perception generated by the anti hunting, animal rights, tree huggers, greenies etc groups which have to rely on lies to push their agenda. I have hunted and know all this from personal experience. Have you ?

    • John Paul Jones says:

      05:25pm | 31/10/11

      @ Sam. I apologise you are right. The Giraffe had the upper hand, the picture clearly depicts that point . However, I have made up my mind to experience the thrill of the kill, so I can have an informed opinion and be able to converse at your level. This experience may go something like this. Will need around $5000 air fares and accommodation, another $5000 perhaps to select a victim and another $5000 spending, making sure to select the right size weapon and ammunition so this high sensory wild beast does not smell my Lagerfeld Eau De Toilet aftershave from behind the $100000 well protected vehicle that will be transporting me. Hold on, perhaps I might give the wild beast a chance and get out of the vehicle, yes, that will make it a contest. A real contest, because I want the hairs on my neck to stand up, I want and have paid for the experience to feel real fear and experience killing . So let me know if I miss any part of this process. I then line up the wild beast from a distance that reflects, no chance of me getting hurt and bang let it have it. How good could that be? Its a winner. Sam, killing animals is no perception , its a fact as depicted by the photo. If you feel the need to kill in the name of sport, lets release some pit bulls into the wild and send all you hunters in to clean them up. They are an introduced species that is clearly killing humans, and very small humans at that. Both the pit bull and hunter could hunt each other, now that would be a sport!!!! Personally, I`ll pass on that one but I can`t wait to have that giraffe head on my wall at home, just next the photo of my mother -in-law.

    • MrV says:

      10:56am | 31/10/11

      There is nothing particualrly macho about shooting an animal that you have to fence in so it can’t escape.
      There are plenty of live hunting opportunities out there for the bonafide hunter, plenty of animals that are pests in the native landscape. Why don’t they go and shoot those? What’s that, not fenced in and might actually require skill?

    • Chris in Perth says:

      11:03am | 31/10/11

      Interesting to see the level of hatred displayed here. I lived in Africa a couple of years but never hunted because I had been raised in the Australian ‘pest control’ mentality. But as I researched it a bit I found I was wrong; hunting is a cultural wealth, and the ethical management of game populations preserves them instead of seeing them destroyed by the First World preservation mentality conflict with the needs of the African poor, oppressed by their ‘democratic’ rulers.

      As for the toxic terms of abuse by the author, it just shows how his mentality works. Typical of political correctness is the need to find an ‘other’ to denigrate.  Then under the banner of your invented or borrowed morality, no slander is off limits - like a drug dealer in prison talking about the rock spider, who should be killed where he is caught. The sexualised abuse of shooters betrays the mentality involved.

    • Govt@FauxCitizen says:

      11:46am | 31/10/11

      @ David Penberthy:
      Q1,So David, how much money did you, all the other Bambi Syndromeists and gunphobic “fuckwits” (ask Tory Shepard for definition) shell out or are prepared to set up an Exotic animals wildlife park?
      Q,2 How would you keep it financialy viable?
      Q,3 Would you keep dangerous carnivorous species?
      But don’t take too long while you sip that swill in a cup up mate, the last Javan Rhino was poached for it’s horn last week, and plenty more species are on the way to being wiped out.
      It’s the old addage of “standing on the corner throwing stones” or whatever, but the critics and bleeding hearts of this world are exactly that, a bunch of self basted utopianists who fix the world over an exorbitantly priced cup of jazzed up coffee, and are loathe to dig really deep into their own pockets and or commit their future to their beleifs, then live further than 50K’s from the nearest city or town.
      Plenty of criticism and bile apon those who don’t score more than 9 out of 10 on your Punch checklist or is that just a straight 10?

    • Ian1 says:

      05:47pm | 31/10/11

      Well according to our polls, Katter’s party is outpolling Labor and is likely to be the main opposition party in Qld.
      Something tells me just about everyone who used to vote Labor but cannot go the length to the LNP is voting Katter.
      Take heart ALP though, the Libs had only 3 seats in Qld not so long ago.
      I guess it’s your turn.

    • Kelsey says:

      06:41pm | 31/10/11

      All I see is a whole bunch of internet heroes talking about penis.

      This isn’t 4chan, what’s going on?

    • Gabrielle says:

      06:59pm | 31/10/11

      This is the state that gave us Pauline Hanson originally!!

      Love the ‘Sideshow Bob’ tag!!!

      PS ... Is Erick for real ? Is he a plant to galvanise extreme opinions and stir people up???

    • R Nek says:

      07:26pm | 31/10/11

      I’m one of these right leaning, country voters that own guns, but as for shooting a caged African animal IN Australia or even thinking about supporting Katter, to hell with that. 
      Not all shooters are social deranged, ultra right flog bags like Bob and I hate the idea that the media are automatically assuming all gun owners are going to flock to his banner like flies to a turd.

    • Chris says:

      09:52am | 01/11/11

      How are you going to support endangered species such as scimitar-horned oryx then. Are you just going to donate money to by feed and fence more country for the expanding numbers. If not you are a hypocrite abusing those who are spending their money to protect these species. As for you calling them caged, what size is the cage 1000 hectares or 10,000 hectares. What do you propose they do with the older males. In the breeding season they fight and kill each other and as half the young are male they have to do something with the excess. Do you want them to be rounded up and transported 500km to processors and suffer stress for days before being killed, or just shot and burried in the paddock.

    • Tim says:

      07:57pm | 31/10/11

      Seriously what is everyone’s issue with killing “defenceless” animals, like if they were defended it would make a difference. Who cares if they would eat hay if you gave it to them? Such a redundant argument. Hunting animals is a fun pastime, and everyone likes to take photos of themselves taking part in there hobbies. It’s repugnant that people pass judgement so harshly for people enjoying a perfectly legal pastime. Why do people think that it is some misguided attempt at showing how macho they are? The fact is that it is fun, and there is nothing wrong with killing an animal. How about disagreeing with Bob Katter purely on the strength of his political policies rather than creating pointless and childish arguments about people’s pastimes.

    • Sharon says:

      08:49pm | 31/10/11

      @Tim…. that you find killing “fun” and that there is nothing wrong with killing an animal says it all really.

      An apt quote for you:
      “As often as Herman had witnessed the slaughter of animals and fish, he always had the same thought:  in their behaviour toward creatures, all men were Nazis.  The smugness with which man could do with other species as he pleased exemplified the most extreme racist theories, the principle that might is right.”  ~Isaac Bashevis Singer

    • Sharon says:

      08:57pm | 31/10/11

      I wonder how many shooters would be “brave” enough to venture into the bush for the sick thrill of the hunt if the animals also had guns?

      “When a man wants to murder a tiger he calls it sport; when the tiger wants to murder him he calls it ferocity.”  ~George Bernard Shaw

    • Chris says:

      10:09am | 01/11/11

      I wonder how many meat eaters are brave enough to kill their own rather than buy it from a shop in a Styrofoam tray covered in plastic. Are you a coward if you eat meat, but have to pay someone to kill it and cut it up.

    • Sharon says:

      02:08pm | 01/11/11

      Good point Chris.

      That’s one of the reasons I stopped eating meat 17 years ago. Then went vegan 6 years later. Best decision of my life.

    • Chris says:

      09:18pm | 03/11/11

      Sharon, nobody is trying to stop you eating what you want either. I would have thought as a vegan you would be for the humane slaughter for consumption in the field, instead of transporting animals hundreds of km to killing facilities causing unnecessary suffering and stress. The raising of wild type species instead of domesticated animals is also better for the environment and produces healthier meat.
      The whole pretence of this article is that killing wild animals in the field should be replaced with domesticated types and the consumer should not have anything to do with the killing. This ignores the whole issue of which has the best animal welfare and environmental outcomes. When this is taken onto account game farming and the harvest of animals by rifle has a much better outcome, conveniently ignored by all the anti hunting posts here.

    • Chris says:

      09:18pm | 31/10/11

      It appears to be desperation. The irresponsible spendthrifts in Government are seeing their meal tickets vanishing. Only by whipping up hatred against a bogeyman can these vicious parasites hope to sneak a few votes past the loony Greens, to keep their seats.

      Shooters are a minority made to order.  Despite being better people than politicians, Australians have had four years media hate against them from 1996 to 1999, and the young voters never have known that these people are just the ordinary neighbours and family they always were.  Shooters represent the old outdoorsman conservation ethos and the volunteer spirit that defended Australia in the wars, and the hate you vile abusers show does you no credit.

    • Leah says:

      10:27pm | 31/10/11

      I am sick of people bagging out politicians because of what their family members do. Whether they are on my side of politics or not.

      And if Warren Anderson was so concerned about his animals I’m sure there would have been stacks of zoos around Australia - or the world - leaping to buy those extinct-in-the-wild animals instead of a safari park in the NT. What did he think was going to happen to them in a safari park??

    • EdHall says:

      06:42am | 01/11/11

      Tha Labor party is walking backwards butt they are getting a poke in the bottom from the Greens anyway.

    • Dennis says:

      12:16pm | 01/11/11

      I find it interesting that an author scrutinising Katter’s backers does not declare his relationship with Labor MP Kate Ellis in the article.

      Then further in the article, Penberthy relies upon a quote from Warren Anderson, who in 2003, planned to shoot the beloved animals (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2003/s987876.htm). Odd to me that he is now so affronted.

      Whilst it is not my thing as a hunter (I prefer to stick with shooting ferals) to shoot animals behind the wire, to each his own I say.

      To say Katter left the coalition because farmers were not receiving enough unscrutinised hand outs is not how I remember it.  I believe he was not happy with the deregulation of collective bargaining for agricultural products, which caused the collapse of many farming industries in Australia at the time and continues to pressure Australian farmers financially.  The end result has seen no better result for Australian consumers, however Woolworths and Coles are doing well.

      That Katter is a social libertarian, but an economic collectivist is no enigma at all.

    • MrsK says:

      02:39pm | 01/11/11

      Katter is a nutter. Plain and simple.

      He clearly has a few marbles missing. His embarrassing himself!!!

      Each time I’ve seen him in the media, I cringe at the mere sight of him due to his crazy antics and find his half crazed expressions hilarious… and feelings of disbeleif that people of this nation are going to fall for it????

    • Townsville Tom says:

      07:22pm | 27/02/12

      Katter gets 70% of the vote in his electorate. He has followers all over Australia, and I would suggest that a lot of them are a fair bit smarter than you. So what was the point of your story? David Penberthy, you appear to me to be a half baked city journalist with not much understanding of the facts and you’re trying to make a man of yourself by putting someone else down.

 

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