Developments in computer hacking, Australian politics, and an acrimonious meeting in Denmark have produced the unlikely result that climate change is now almost as hot a conversation topic as Tiger Woods’s sex life.

With our ready-reckoner guide to global warming barneys, you too can have a circular argument in which all facts are disputable and no insult is too cutting when climate change comes up in the pub, at a barbecue or during tea and biscuits at your next Liberal Party branch meeting.

And best of all, there are no losers because by the time the arguments are proved or disproved either way we’ll all be dead.

The first thing you must do for a rollicking, no-non-sequiturs-barred discussion on climate change is choose from the following two starting points. Let’s call them teams A and B. At all costs, avoid taking the boring middle ground position that it’s an issue of risk management or that the planet must be given the benefit of the doubt. Joe Hockey did so and look what happened to him.

The starting position for each team is:

A: Climate change is real and we are all going to die unless we do “something”. What that something is doesn’t matter, you can make it up.

B: Climate change is not real or at least not caused by people so no action is required.

Once you have chosen the teams, each can try these simple tactics which are based on real arguments commonly advanced by politicians and people in various debating forums.

Team A:

You can start by calling the other team sceptics and deniers. Sceptic may seem innocuous or even complementary at first but repeat it often enough and in the right tone - think of spitting the word instead of just saying it - and it quickly becomes a useful term of abuse.

Feel free to cite any recent hot or cold days, big thunderstorms, flash floods or bushfires as evidence that you are right. While everyone knows the weather is not the same thing as the climate, if this is point is raised by your opponents you can use the customary climate change debating tactic of completely ignoring it.

To sound scientific, throw in a mention of catastrophic changes to the planet if it warms by 3C by 2050, and say temperature records being broken around Australia are consistent with an overall warming trend. When you sense your opponents’ tempers starting to fray, just say the words IPCC fourth report, then sit back and enjoy the spectacle of them exploding into an uncontrollable rant that will probably contain the word climategate.

If your opponents argue there is no need to rush into action on climate change, you can say that delay is denial, which handily is an Australian-Government-endorsed attack line used recently by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and other senior ministers. You can now also press home your point with emotive shouting about protecting the planet for future generations, perhaps by dragging a small child to your side and asking the others to explain why they’re wrecking the planet for the kid.

As the debate descends into its inevitable chaos you can accuse your opponents of being flat-earthers and rightards. I’ll leave you with a couple of lines (from a real comment found on the internet) which is a good example of the kind of abandonment of fact and reason you could aim for: 

People who deny global warming should be put in re-education camps and shown the science until they understand it otherwise we will all die from it and people in Bangladesh will be flooded and die too.

Polar bears will be extinct in a year or two and so will all other cold climate animals because they won’t be able to cope with the massive temperature changes that are ALREADY HAPPENING!

(Style tip: The words in capitals should be shouted, possibly as you leap out of your chair and point an angry finger.)

Team B:

The great thing about this debate is there’s no need to address the points of the other team in any way. Start by calling them warmists and climate change alarmists before stepping it up, as the abuse reaches a crescendo, to leftist watermelon sheepletards.

A good party trick is to drop some ice cubes into a glass of water at the start of the debate and mark the level of the liquid on the glass. At any mention of melting polar ice caps point to the water level in the glass – and because of your secret knowledge that water expands when frozen, the water will be lower than before the ice melted!!

Watch your opponents squirm by mentioning the climategate emails and specifically quoting the phrases “hide the decline” and “we can’t account for the lack of warming”.

To sound scientific you can say the planet hasn’t warmed since 1998, and has cooled significantly in the past two years, before adding that nobody has been able to definitively prove that human emissions cause global warming in any case. (They may point out that Einstein’s general theory of relativity hasn’t been definitively proven either, but see the advice to Team A on completely ignoring troublesome points such as this.) You could also argue Liberal Senator Nick Minchin’s point that Team A is aiding the cause of those who want to de-industrialise the western world.

And here for you is a slightly edited example of a real comment that showcases the extreme lengths to which the debate can be taken from your side:

Climatologists have done to real science what paedophiles did to the church and terrorists did to Islam.

But if you’re not spoiling for a fight on this, however, it might be worth sitting down and having a chat about climate over a cup of tea on the understanding that you want to have a reasonable conversation about the topic as it might be important. There’s plenty to read on it on both sides of the debate and you can start with a Google search. But doesn’t that sound terribly boring?

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    • neelo says:

      05:37am | 10/12/09

      Great article, Paul. You’ve obviously been knee-deep in this stuff. It always astounds me how absolutely decisive people can be about something as bloody complicated as climatology. I’ve actually heard someone say: “It’s not rocket science”.

    • paul says:

      06:10am | 10/12/09

      All the name calling and catfighting is getting boring. Can’t climate name-slingers have backyard wrestling or a underground climate fightclub and put it onto utube? (And have WWF dressups and celebrity names like ‘Carbon Monster’ and ‘Bad Monk’ and ‘Bundie Polar Mauler’ and ‘Gorey Al’.)  Then I will be convinced, that they are convinced they are fighting for their lives.

    • paul says:

      06:27am | 10/12/09

      And yes the Bad Monk Abbott will wear his Speedoes to his second round bout with Gorey Al Yankabit. Or will he stay on the island to fight his evil conservative nemesis ‘Hydrocarbon Hairspray Rudd-the-Scud’?  ( After defeating ‘Scary Hockey Graph’ and ‘Turncoat Whatisname Backbencher’ in the first round.

    • Joel B1 says:

      06:42am | 10/12/09

      “I’ve actually heard someone say: “It’s not rocket science”. “

      Yeah, that was me, and I stand by that!

    • Tony Cooper says:

      06:52am | 10/12/09

      I experienced climate change on Monday! In the morning it was fine, but then it rained.
      This is further evidence that climate change is real!
      Argue that you… you… you… cavemen (and women)

    • iansand says:

      07:21am | 10/12/09

      You left out “Copying and pasting large chunks of ‘conclusive’ crap from other web sites without having a clue what that crap actually means, and without bothering to apply a sceptical mind to the source”.

    • June says:

      07:41am | 10/12/09

      I love the media they’re chasing fires around like never before, everytime someone has a BBQ I’m sure their there trying to film the smoke, to be aired on the evening and morning news. Even the weather reporters if you notice, describe a hot day as a very unusually hot day today in Melbourne Sydney or where ever, it’s almost as if they’re hoping for another Black Saturday. When there is a cooler day than usual they don’t have a comment on that, just go straight to the hot day in Tennant Creek or Alice Springs. They are all starting sound rediculas. They talk about scare campaigns by climate denialist’s.?

    • Diamantina Dick says:

      07:58am | 10/12/09

      It’s become too tribal to be sensible, but at least there is now a debate.

      Just an observation though; the position that was supposed “settled” seems to protesteth too much to be credible under the first real barrage.

      I’d add that a similar thing happened to history during the History Wars where we were asked to accept that there could be “many truths”. Bollocks.

    • Robert says:

      07:59am | 10/12/09

      I’ve noticed the same thing too June. Even my Grandma (86) commented the other day about all the increased reports lately about fires on the news. As she said there are always fires over summer, even when she was a young girl living in the Hunter Valley she remembers them, but there was no TV to spread the news about them. She also can talk about living through severe droughts and hot spells.

    • Muzz says:

      08:05am | 10/12/09

      Once you only used to hear about fires when there was someones house burnt down, now the grass fire out in the middle of nowhere is headlines.

    • Alicia says:

      08:18am | 10/12/09

      As reported Kevin Rudd is reluctant to have a DD which would be fought over climate change and is hoping over summer there will be fires and heatwaves to make his argument more credible. Great stuff from a PM.

    • hoofman says:

      08:39am | 10/12/09

      So this becomes another excuse for bloggers to trot out their beliefs and disbeliefs about climate change, right? ‘My grandma told me…’. My grandma was a Christian but I made up my own mind about that.

    • Luke says:

      09:19am | 10/12/09

      hoofman - then maybe when you see “climate” in a headline anywhere you should just scroll past that article and read something your interested in, and not waste your time opening up the page to read the comments.

    • What's fair says:

      09:20am | 10/12/09

      Good morning Punchers

      This has to be the closest to a balanced column on the climate change topic so far on The Punch.  It is so unfortunate that so many people’s (Punch authors this includes you too) comments are so lacking in civility, especially with regards to this this topic.  This is a shame given the importance of the climate change debate.  The most worrying thing is that while this article has a nice dig at everyone, it still contributes nothing to the actual debate and may just encourage people to use the tactics you have put to pen here. I guess it is just human nature for tempers to boil over when passions rise.

      As such, this article does not absolve Colgo or the majority of Punch writers for their lack of objectivity so far and more work needs to be done.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      09:53am | 10/12/09

      Paul, I’ve noticed that from time to time you have a “slow news day” day. This is another one.

      Those that have taken this article seriously need to really move on and get a life

      Well said What’s fair

    • hoofman says:

      10:07am | 10/12/09

      Luke - I often do. Maybe you should do likewise.

    • monkeytypist says:

      10:14am | 10/12/09

      Speak for yourself Paul.  I plan to still be alive in 2050, as no doubt do many of the people you know and care about.

    • Gilda says:

      10:21am | 10/12/09

      Without Turnbull to pull to pieces and with Abbott seemingly unable to put a foot wrong, maybe you could consider scrutinising Rudd for a change cause there is plenty to pull him apart about. Put off the Hospital take over again, the money spent by the Federal Government on it’s “jobs fund program” which 3/4’s has gone to Labor electorates, and dare I mention it, but yet another boat today total of 53 now and Christmas Island full to almost overflowing and the UN delegate who has just come out and said it should be closed. Just a few things going on with the Government that no seems to want bring attention to.

    • CJ says:

      10:59am | 10/12/09

      Don’t forget Team B can always revert to the line that CO2 is a natural gas!

    • Joel B1 says:

      12:02pm | 10/12/09

      “it might be worth sitting down and having a chat about climate over a cup of tea”

      Bugger that. This is Australia, do I have to remind you of the “Rum-Corps”? This is best decided over several cold-ones down your local. Or, in the interest of being multi-cultural, a few reds in a backyard. And I’m not sure what Muslims drink so I’ll just say coffee…

    • Paul Prentice says:

      01:18pm | 10/12/09

      One smart mum in Penrith is starting a class action against the state ,for brainwashing our kids with robbing them of a proper education,there seems to be a mountain of parents willing to join.Bring the debate into a court of Law

      Me i think we should split the country into two, let the watermelons go to one side ,let the those who are not so easily conned go to the other,like the south Koreans,we will be able to sit over the border and watch the North starve,and any money they do manage to put together, go to third world countries

    • Interloper says:

      02:07pm | 10/12/09

      Disturbingly truthful article. It missed the best argument addressed to me recently, which was “why should we listen to the scientists, anyway?”.
      Love the rocket science quote. Rocket science actually isn’t that hard. There are a lot fewer variables and uncertainties to account for

    • Lucie says:

      02:23pm | 10/12/09

      Hey June, in case you haven’t heard headline ABC news this arvo, Darwin had it’s hottest night at 29 over night low. Also fire out of control in nth NSW still no homes burnt yet though, still waiting for that to happen. lol I think you might be right, it’s getting rediculas.

    • LG says:

      02:42pm | 10/12/09

      Wow. The best thing about this column is the way people are putting the advice into practice straight away in the comments section, particularly with the whole anger thing.
      And so the whole article is nicely supported in that kind of circular, not really achieving anything way described at the start of the article.

    • Jack from Perth says:

      02:50pm | 10/12/09

      You forgot the hockey stick!

    • TG says:

      02:54pm | 10/12/09

      “Climatologists have done to real science what paedophiles did to the church and terrorists did to Islam.”

      Do you have a cite for the original “real comment” which you “slightly edited” to get the above quote?

      With all of the makin’ stuff up that seems to be all the rage in this debate, one becomes a little cynical…

    • pc says:

      03:01pm | 10/12/09

      Machiavelli The Prince

      “For the distempers of a state being discovered while yet inchoate, which can only be done by a sagacious ruler, may be easily dealt with, but when from not being observed, they are suffered to grow until they are obvious to everyone, there is no longer any remedy….. Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few.”

      This faculty is not one that belongs to Tony Abbott. Does he believe in climate change? Until we actually know what he thinks its impossible to have a debate about it, isnt it? In fact didnt the government try to have a debate? Didnt Tony Abbott actually agree with the ets? Oh, he was only pretending to agree with the ets? How will we know when Tony Abbott isnt pretending?

    • Shama says:

      04:06pm | 10/12/09

      “and people in Bangladesh will be flooded and die too”

      This is called The Bangladesh Syndrome wherein anything dire first decides to strike this benighted country. Population Bomb, tick; disappearing land, tick.  By the accounts of the 70s it should have ceased to exist by now. Yet the country seems to be soldiering on fine.

    • Surfer says:

      04:13pm | 10/12/09

      It’s a bit warm and sticky here in Port Macquarie, can’t see any bush fires from here yet, am keeping an eye on the coast water level though as I’m near the beach. All is OK at the moment.

    • The Volcanologist says:

      04:21pm | 10/12/09

      I like the fact that the giant volcano under the Antartic is warming the waters and causing the NW ice shelf to disintergrate is part of climate change.

    • H of SA says:

      04:32pm | 10/12/09

      Did you not add bringing up Andrew Bolt because he can be interpretted in two ways?

      Like the word “temper” which can mean too soften or to strengthen, Andrew Bolt brings up hero worship or loathing depending on if your with B or A

    • cats says:

      04:50pm | 10/12/09

      It seems to me that the skeptics are main ones doing the name calling, especially on this site - as most people who comment here believe that polluting the air with toxins is going to do absolutely nothing to the health of the planet.

      paul says:07:10am | 10/12/09
      Can’t climate name-slingers have backyard wrestling or a underground climate fightclub and put it onto utube? (And have WWF dressups and celebrity names like ‘Carbon Monster’ and ‘Bad Monk’ and ‘Bundie Polar Mauler’ and ‘Gorey Al’.)

      Thats really insulting to the WWF. I donate regularly to their organisation and you may be ignorant enough to think that all they do is talk about climate change, but its much, much more than that. They put a lot of effort into reducing the number of threatened species, and securing the amount of national parks where wildlife can safely live without humans destroying their habitats and drastically reducing their numbers.

      What is it with humans and wanting to destroy everything?

    • LAWSON says:

      05:11pm | 10/12/09

      Joe Tripoli—-
      Head line new, as at just now. He has spent approx.  $649.69 on one eating out occasion.  All paid by NSW tax payers.  Hand he his orders. i.e. his marching orders. O yeah and a Jenny Craig pamphlet.  Thank-you
      p.s. never mind about the Prince Machiavelli exercise.

    • Darryl Price says:

      05:31pm | 10/12/09

      Neelo @ 6:37
      Yet another half truth in the debate. The correct terminology in the context of AGW is “it’s not rocket surgery” Gosh.

    • Louis McLennan says:

      10:01pm | 10/12/09

      i dunno what the co2 levels are but the bs levels are pretty high.

      I had to share that one. It’s off Larry The Cable guy’s tailgate party cd.

    • ShaneO says:

      10:59pm | 10/12/09

      Cats - I think Paul meant ‘World Wrestling Federation’ and not ‘World Wifldlife Fund!

      Yeah I know easy mistake to make!

      And they say those from the left don’t have a sense of humour…......................

    • The Rock says:

      09:17am | 11/12/09

      There is no WWF wrestling anymore. The Wildlife Fund took them to court over the WWF.com domain name and forced the wrestling federation to change their name.
      it’s WWE wrestling now, get with the times people.

    • cats says:

      12:04pm | 11/12/09

      Well if thats what he meant, he should get the name of the organisation right. And who actually said those from the “left” don’t have a sense of humour? Aren’t we the ones who watch the Chaser, John Safran, and Triple J TV with the Doctor? (yeah generalisations suck don’t they). Btw, i don’t call myself left or right or anything. I support a lot of different traits from both “sides” of politics. Just so happens that i believe we need to cut back the effect that our lifestyles have on the animals we share the world with.

    • NMJ says:

      07:03pm | 11/12/09

      Its funny how the powers that be always seem to be obsessed with hanging some doom and gloom scenario over our heads and how gullible people will just accept all this global warming crap that is spoonfed to them.

    • Brian says:

      01:18pm | 13/12/09

      I actually agree that climate change isn’t rocket science… rocket science is actually pretty easy, with a little bit of training. Get tube. Fill with desired amount of explosives. Light. It all boils down to the type of tube and amount and type of explosives - the only difference to any ‘normal’ science is the cost of any mistake, not the difficulty of that mistake.

    • einstein says:

      10:59am | 16/12/09

      more greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere means more heat is trapped = warming.

      its grade 7 physics, not rocket science.

    • Peanut Hunter says:

      01:14pm | 17/12/09

      Must be nice to have the introspective moral high ground? Or sorry.. is that the boring middle ground position where the majority of ‘us’ pond scum seem to be herded by Team A, Team B and Team Journo?

    • Mikko says:

      08:30pm | 18/12/09

      Hey Einstein, why don’t you teach Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong how to tax water vapour. You know everything is realtive and water vapour is by far more prevalent in the atmosphere than CO2 and is more likely to have a greenhouse effect. So every time a river, lake, the ocean, your swimming pool or the dog’s water bowl evaporates and adds to the humidity,  Kevin could tax it. Oh, but that’s what makes rain, so let’s tax a natural gas just as essential to life on earth but we’ll call it “carbon pollution”?
      Clever, Einstein.

 

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