The “Statement of Principles” signed by the timber industry, the timber union and environmental organisations late last year is easily the best chance for decades to end Tasmania’s debilitating “forest wars”.

Cartoon: Jon Kudelka www.kudelka.com.au

Every single organisation that signed on took a risk.  A risk that the process would founder through Government intransigence, a risk of being outflanked and denounced by opportunists within their own constituencies, a risk that circumstances may deliver outcomes for their traditional opponents, but not for their own interests.

One of the most fascinating issues now that we have started to move into the ‘delivery’ phase, however, is the high stakes power play developing between the “environmental” greens and the “political” greens.

The environmental greens, while still leery of the pulp mill and its state approvals process, realise that the mill as now approved is a much better project than that approved by the state. 

In fact, it could be argued that the state-approved mill is dead and buried and has been replaced by a federally approved mill which is much better and represents a huge environmental win for those actually genuinely concerned with the environmental outcomes around this project.

While they will never come out and actually support the pulp mill the environmental greens also recognise that the mill is an essential part of the very necessary restructuring of the Tasmanian timber industry, and that such a restructuring has the potential to also deliver them a very significant environmental reservation outcome, while also ensuring otherwise inevitable levels of social disruption are mitigated as far as possible.

The environmental or “small G” greens understand that this outcome is only available to them through the Principles process – if they can give a little on the pulp mill they will get a little in terms of the high conservation forests that will be “saved”.

On the other hand the political or “capital G” Greens have a vested interest in perpetuating the war in the forests as a way of maintaining relevance, funding, and political power.

They have no actual environmental objectives in relation to either the new, federally approved pulp mill or the Statement of Principles.

They have, however, put a line in the sand over the pulp mill and now find themselves conflicted between their political self-interest and the environmental outcomes that one might reasonably expect them to support.

The foot soldiers of the political greens include the likes of the Huon Environment Centre and the group Still Wild Still Threatened. Their actions and public statements are clearly designed to destroy and undermine the Statement of Principles’ chances of success, because success would involve compromising their political positions.

So to maintain political purity and that “self righteousness” factor that is such a motivator for such groups, the political Greens and their foot soldiers are attempting a classic “flanking move,” to position themselves as the true custodians of Green Purity and to demonstrate to the wider green community that they will not compromise.

In reality in doing so they are prepared to forego all of the actual potential positive environmental outcomes of the Statement of Principles.

This is the true nature of the so called “split” in the greens that we are currently witnessing.

There is another group who would also pose as “greens”, those who simply want to extract vengeance on Gunns with whatever perceived justification they can muster. 

These people have the least justification for their actions than any other and are motivated in large part by the most infantile form of grandstanding.  This group includes the wannabe high profile “talking heads” that have emerged during the talks.

The situation in Tasmania constitutes a “coming of age” morality tale for the environmental movement in Australia.  Will they accept that compromise is necessary to achieve outcomes, or will the self righteousness factor and political self interest win out?

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    • Sony B Goode says:

      07:19am | 22/04/11

      One Country, one National Park.

      When you have people like Lee Rhianon infiltrating the greens, the groups goals become pure Marxism and as such anyone that is suckered into voting for the greens will get what they deserve from this group of crazies.

    • Mark says:

      10:09am | 24/04/11

      Sony B,

      Every party has its faction. Lee Rhianon represents the hard left of the greens. By the same logic I could never vote Labor because of the union left or Liberals because of the hard right conservative faction. To say one person or one group of people in a political party control its whole agenda is pure rubbish.

      I voted green. I might not agree with some of the hard left views of the NSW greens but I share many ideals of the Greens party.

    • Rosie says:

      09:34am | 22/04/11

      The Politcal Greens are nothing more than big talkers! Gosh can they talk but when it comes to fighting for what they truely believe in they haven’t the guts to do it.

      Now is they chance to carry out what they constantly rave on about, but it seems they will not do it because of their alliance with the Labor Party.

      Last night I watched Sarah Hansen Young on ABC Lateline and 4 times Tony Jones asked her whether the Greens would enforce what they have strongly suggested be done about asylum seekers, the main one was to get rid of mandatory detention because it was inhumane. They are now in a very good position to now enforce it but Hansen Young kept avoiding the question and never said “Yes” the answer we and Tony Jones wanted to hear. All big tough talk but when it came to doing something about it they couldn’t deliver!

      The same goes in Tasmania because the self righteousness factor and political self interest will win out. It is easier for the Greens to sit back and wallow in their new found power than go against anyone for what they say are their beliefs.

    • salmon ella says:

      09:58am | 22/04/11

      fight for what they believe in?
      You mean like in Iraq?

    • Paul says:

      10:02am | 22/04/11

      I’m a committed environmentalist with runs on the board, but the Greens are social engineers hiding their true colours behind saving the whales and trees.
      Tasmania is verging on bankruptcy with 34% of the population on welfare. Unemployment is highest in the nation and Tassie boasts the highest proportion of public servants per head of all states.
      After the Gunn’s experience at the hands of the Greens, who would invest in Tasmania?

    • Erick is a legend says:

      10:15am | 22/04/11

      Research the history of the Greens party and it won’t take you long to discover their origins are linked to the Communist Party of Australia.

    • Jason B says:

      11:33am | 22/04/11

      Greens came straight from the failed USSR and into the environmental movement to continue the spread of Socialism.

      In my opinion they are the lowest form of human life on earth.

    • michael j says:

      02:46pm | 22/04/11

      @Jason B- Socialism is a good ideal,n, Theory that no-one has managed to make it work properly is a bit like Nuclear Power,just needs a bit more work,,do not confuse it with fascist like Hitler or Tyrants like Stalin,,,
      A one world government based on socialism is the only way to save this planet,,,,Probably won’t be till the Great Famine Wars in a few decades time
      but it will happen,,,,,,,,,

    • Enrico says:

      03:55pm | 22/04/11

      Hear, hear!  Greens and their supporters ought to be locked up.  Beware of these spivs and their deluded ideology.

    • marley says:

      04:01pm | 22/04/11

      @michael J - what on earth makes you think a one world government would be a good thing.  Look at the alienation between Canberra and the rest of Australia.  Do you seriously think a government based in Geneva or New York would have its finger on the pulse of Dubbo or even Sydney?

      And what if that one-world government weren’t socialist?  After all, while some countries elect social democratic governments, very few voluntarily elect socialist ones.

    • michael j says:

      07:44pm | 22/04/11

      @ marley- what makes me think that,well most big revolutions or civil wars are caused by a period of intense starvation, on George’s 6.30 pm show last night he said,one person dies of starvation every 3 1/2 seconds,i’ll not bother to work that out,,that is now Today, A report by recently by scientist said in 2048 4 billion people will die of starvation, as these people ,,where ever they might,, probably will not die quietly there will be mass invasions all over the globe,,and though Australia will be a prime target from people north of us our big brother will maybe help us ,,the war machine will turn as long as it can but as you can see i am painting a picture of Global Chaos where the world will come under Marshall law,, so as i see it A One World Socialist Government will come about purely as a necessity to survive on this planet as all other systems of Government will fail,,
      And then there is that Climate Change thing too,,,,,,,,,,
      AS i will not be here to see it,, all the best to the Great Grand kids of the brave new World,,
      Mate look at the FACTS we can’t agree on 7,000 boat people ,what is the
      World going to do with 4 Billion starving people,??

    • marley says:

      08:49pm | 22/04/11

      @MichaelJ - if we do descend into the kind of chaos you describe what makes you think socialism or a one world government will be logical outcomes?  Why socialism and not fascism or rampant anarchism?

      As you say, we in Australia cannot agree about 7000 boat people, yet you expect the 7 billion people around the world to agree on a single government with a single political persuasion?  Not a chance.

    • michael j says:

      09:08am | 23/04/11

      @Marley-What need will there be for Fascism there will be no need for expansionism except to bury the dead,,
      Anarchist need a system to dismantle this is already being done by leaving all these people to starve to death,,
      Again Capitalism is failing badly through its Greed which is rampant,the G.F.C. is mild proof of its failings,,
      A one World Government would be loosely based on the U.N with a policy of removing Nationalism , Cultural Beliefs,And Religious Beliefs,
      By this i mean they will not be encouraged and pretty much left to dwindle out on their own,,People will probably think differently after this Global Event anyway , ,
      IF this Great Famine were to happen in say 35/40 years ,no one can/could predict the outcome or even how to deal with it,,
      But as George said 1 death every 3 1/2 seconds now,,I doubt even the Scientist who say it will happen can get their head around it,,?

    • The Vivid Writer says:

      10:07am | 23/04/11

      @Michael J

      Spot on!

      @Marley

      Oh, we can agree on these things - provided that we represent ourselves instead of having ‘politicians’ do it for us. We have the technological capability to allow almost everyone to vote in real-time and basically part-take in referendums on a weekly basis. (authentication wouldn’t be much of a problem either)..

      With that, no fascism, socialism or any other -ism.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_movement

    • marley says:

      11:34am | 23/04/11

      @Vivid Writer - we don’t even have the technology to get high speed broadband to everyone in Australia.  How do you think we’re going to do with on-line voting in Outer Mongolia or the slums of Rio? 

      And, just to point out, even in places which do operate their governments via frequent referenda (California; Switzerland) political parties and “isms” still exist.  It’s human nature for some people to be conservativee, some to be liberal, some to be nihilistic and some to be power-mad megalomaniacs.  I don’t see that changing anytime soon.  Do you?

    • Ryan says:

      12:52pm | 23/04/11

      @michael j: but Hitlers party was the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party.
      Socialism sure worked well there didn’t it, you scum socialists have been trying to get into power to slaughter the innocent ever since.
      Wow imagine that Pol Pot was a socialist also, wait a second, HE WAS.

    • michael j says:

      02:28pm | 23/04/11

      @ T.V.D-Interesting idea,but once again can’t happen till it rises from the ashes of Global Despair, That 1/3 of Australian’s live below the poverty line
      is not good,,But i will be the first to admit that poverty in Australia is a hell of a lot better than in other countries around at least we have a socialist health system and wealthy charities to beg food from,,
      AS we are being filmed nearly every minute of the day by street cameras and G.P.S. telling the misses where we are in live, instant communication , already A Group called Senators Online,, some already sitting members is encouraging members to vote online on what their supporters want especially in referendums,,
      New Birth Through Chaos= Universal Law,,,,
      Sometimes i can’t believe how Immoral this Planet is,,
      We all want the best for our Children,,those close,,,
      Sometimes people trace heritage throw Culture or Ancestor’y ,,
      and go yahoo i am a cousin of Henry the V111 ,,,24 times removed,,
      SCIENTIST the one’s predicting Climate Change,,n,, Great Famine,,
      have determined that Human Species came from two Apes ,,
      we are all related but we want to destroy each other and the planet we call home,,,it doesn’t matter what name you give it there will be a new system,,Being Socialist to me just means Mates helpin Mates,,
      without expecting reward,,,,,,,,,

    • michael j says:

      04:46pm | 23/04/11

      @Rayn-yes you are correct the word SOCIALIST did appear in the ‘‘N.A.Z.I.’‘
      parties official name that was used in the early 1920 s,,
      The party at that time also held a lot of communist but as you will recall from reading the’’ Rise and fall of the Third Rich, these were all killed in ‘Hitler’s’ party purges of the early 1930 s the N.A.Z.I. party never at any time resembled anything closely identified as Socialism,,And neither did ‘‘Stalin’s ‘‘butcherer,, and Pol Pot was another who’s butchering of his own people was the act of a tyrant,,who’s reign was pulled up by the communist people of Vietnam,,,
      Well so far you have not even come close to what i am talking about,,,
      Are you one of the chosen few that takes Pleasure and Profit from seeing BILLIONS of people on this Planet Starve to DEATH,,,,,,,,,,
                        All the best to ya MATE,,,,,,,,,,

    • Dan says:

      06:18pm | 25/04/11

      “In my opinion they are the lowest form of human life on earth.”

      As opposed to murderers and rapists? Riiight.

    • Dan says:

      06:21pm | 25/04/11

      “Greens came straight from the failed USSR and into the environmental movement to continue the spread of Socialism.”

      What a massive generalisation. Perhaps Greens simply care about the environment and are socially progressive.

    • Ryan says:

      11:13pm | 26/04/11

      @michael j: but Michael J, how did all of these tyrants rise to power, ah yes through socialism.
      As for your final comment, I think you will find that these people would be far worse off under greens than under a capitalist government. Not only would they be jobless, they would also be starving and be being shot to death for trying to grow their own food or kill an animal for food.

    • Zaf says:

      11:47am | 22/04/11

      Another Forester dressing up as a ‘commentator’ to give the Greens some self interested advice about how to be Green. 

      What a wally!  Though I’m sure that a lot of Greens will read and be convinced, because why not?

    • Knemon says:

      12:00pm | 22/04/11

      Paul - “I’m a committed environmentalist with runs on the board” - what the hell does that mean?

      “After the Gunn’s experience at the hands of the Greens” - Tasmania is now in the position it is, entirely thanks to the corrupt marriage between Gunns and the Tasmanian government. It was Gunns who were trying to suppress public opinion by suing anyone who dared speak out or protested against their archaic forestry practices. It was Gunns and Forestry Tasmania, who, with no vision for the future, and against the best advice available (re FSC accreditation Etc.), went on their happy way, producing mountains of wood chips that now sit idle on Tasmanian wharves without a market.

      I’m guessing that Jim Adams doesn’t live anywhere near the Tamar Valley, the proposed site for the pulp mill, in fact, I’m guessing he doesn’t even live in Tasmania.

      “After the Gunns experience at the hands of the Tasmanian taxpayer” - would be more apt.

    • bikinis on top says:

      12:29pm | 22/04/11

      The mass media should embrace The Greens and not the Liberals.
      Remember the blue ( Liberals) and the the red ( labor) do not mix together to give you green. It gives you purple.

    • TimB says:

      01:23pm | 22/04/11

      And green + red = (PM Bob) Brown.

      Awful.

    • Bikinis On Top says:

      02:39pm | 22/04/11

      Purple is Church colour.
      Easter is church time and not Show time.
      Jesus is the ereason for the season.

      Watch the Bulldogs crucify the Easter Rabbits tomorrow!
      “Brown is Shit Colour” ( My ALP neighbour once said)

    • bikinis on top says:

      02:40pm | 22/04/11

      April 22 is VI Lenin’s Birthday.Its Good Friday!

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      04:36pm | 22/04/11

      Bad, bad, environmental organizations that won’t be co-opted into the system…...

    • CJ Morgan says:

      05:29pm | 22/04/11

      Way to go, guys - publish yet another Green-bashing article, on Earth Day!

    • Likes Joining Dots says:

      07:10pm | 22/04/11

      CJ Morgan

      I think ‘long overdue scrutiny of the Greens’ is the phrase you are looking for.

      It’s good enough for the Coalition and Labor and they have endured similar ‘bashings’ for decades, so why is it wrong to apply the same blowtorch to the third party in politics?

    • CJ Morgan says:

      08:11am | 23/04/11

      “Scrutiny”?  This excuse for a piece isn’t scrutiny - it’s a fanciful fairy story cobbled together by a leading forestry advocate in order to try and discredit the Greens.  It’s not scrutiny, it’s mendacious disinformation.

    • well he would say that says:

      06:16pm | 22/04/11

      “Jim Adams is the CEO of Timber Communities Australia…”

      ‘Nuff said.

    • Barry says:

      09:22pm | 22/04/11

      Yeah! I mean we shouldn’t believe anything anyone says, when they possess some sort of affiliation. Teacher:  Kids, you should go to school it’s good for your education.  Kids:  No way you’re just saying that cause your a teacher!

    • marley says:

      01:17pm | 23/04/11

      Quite a few comments here about Jim Adams being a forester who would naturally criticize the Greens, and that therefore this piece is not to be believed. 

      Sorry guys, but that’s the “ad hominem” fallacy, attacking the argument on the basis of who presented it, rather than on the merits of the argument itself.  If you disagree with what Adams says, then make your case for an alternative interpetation of what’s going on in Tasmania.  But base it on facts, not on your dislike of Adams.

      And, not knowing a great deal about the situation there,  I would actually be quite interested in a rebuttal of his viewpoint, but so far no one’s offered it.

    • Yuri says:

      05:35pm | 23/04/11

      I would have to say that I actually agree with the author, and the hijacking of the environmental green party by Political (Socialist) Greens is evident in other policies.

      For example: Why do the greens support the carbon tax if the non-pollutant C02 helps plants grow and thus increased C02 makes the world ‘greener’?

      Unless, of course, they are no longer the environmentalist greens that they started out as.

    • Libby says:

      09:13pm | 23/04/11

      I want to know why we cant have a discussion on here rather than always ending up a fighting about who is or is not left, right, solicialist, commie, conservative, far right, greenie, labor party stooge, abbott lover, etc.

      Could we perhaps really listen to what other people have to say and address the logic of the argument before decrying their contribution as inherently biased by some overarching terms, the definitions of which, or at least understanding of them by the people who use them, remain in question.

      This article is not really about who is Green/green or not - its about the nature of politics and what you have to do to gain or maintain power in our f***ked up system.

      Funnily enough, an active democratic model was proposed above but shouted down by the same small minded people who refused to acknowledge what a wonderful resource the NBN could be to such a goal (its not just about downloading movies).

    • CJ Morgan says:

      10:47am | 24/04/11

      I can’t really blame people for being confused about Greens/greens.  That, of course, is the intent of this article and most of the MSM.

      To set the record straight, these are the political Greens:

      http://greens.org.au/

      They’ve never pretended to be a single-issue environmental party, despite usually mendacious and obtuse claims made by those who fear them.

      In other usages, “green” can mean alost anything you want it to.  When applied to the environment, it can mean everything from “ecologically sustainable” to “slightly less polluting than our competitors”.

      I hope this helps.

    • marley says:

      02:42pm | 24/04/11

      You still haven’t explained why the article is wrong.

    • Janess says:

      12:43am | 26/07/11

      I’m not wohrty to be in the same forum. ROTFL

 

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