With approximately 54 hours until the polls close the Prime Minister has just discarded the last shred of politeness, starting her address to the National Press Club with a 15 minute evisceration of her opponent Tony Abbott.

Iron Lady - Gillard launches an all out assault.

In a speech heavy on hyperbole Gillard sledged Abbott on everything from his book “Battlelines”, to his lack of tech-head credentials, saying the Coalition leader was “turbo charging the spendometre” during the campaign while she had fulfilled her pledge to not add a single cent to the Budget during the contest.

The one positive note of the speech was a promise to extend the Government’s paid parental leave scheme to two weeks paid leave for fathers or “other carers”, to start in July 2012.

But Abbott was her real target. The attacks included:

On the National Broadband Network: “You can only imagine (Tony Abbott’s) excitement when he finally finds YouTube.”

On the cost of living: “Mr Abbott has raised the cost of living as an issue, with a plan to raise the cost of living as well.”

On his book: “Could you imagine if I ever penned a book like the book called Battlelines”.

On Abbott’s “boat phone policy” to be the decision maker on turning back asylum-seekers: “Is interfering in the chain of command really what a Prime Minister should do? I say no.”

On his rejection of the mining tax: He’s turned down “$10 billion of greed revenue.”

With the advertising blackout now mercifully in place, neither side is able to run the barrage of attack ads that have become increasingly intense in the past week.

Clearly the Gillard camp was looking today to hammer home the final nail in the Abbott run.

It’s too late for Abbott to return fire. He did his Press Club speech on Tuesday, and last night’s forum at the Bronco’s Club in Brisbane was the last big set piece of the campaign.

Now all that’s left is pot shots.

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    • Oliphaunt says:

      01:22pm | 19/08/10

      How the Libs expect to have any credibility after they refused to use Treasury to have their plans costed (which was Costello’s rule) and claim a massive surplus after throwing cash around like a drunken pokie winner is beyond me.

      They had 11 years to fix the problems they are running around now claiming they are going to address them - paid parental leave, public transport, hospitals, doctors…...everything.

      If only there were a credible alternative this election would be a done deal

    • Looby says:

      02:07pm | 19/08/10

      I think it may indeed say more about the leaky Labor government/ Treasury (ie-Wayne Swan). She and her team are a nasty piece of work. The old saying if you don’t have something nice to say, say nothing at all is no longer applicable.

    • CK says:

      02:18pm | 19/08/10

      Oliphaunt, I think you should look up why the Libs are not getting Treasury to cost their plans.

    • mike says:

      02:23pm | 19/08/10

      More to the point - How do LABOR expect to have any credibility when prior to the last election they submitted 85 % of their plans to Treasury less than 24 HOURS before voting started ! And why do the media give Labor a free ride when they bang on about the Liberal party being negative? Labor have been putting the boot in for weeks and still get away with saying the Liberals are being negative!

    • JT says:

      03:12pm | 19/08/10

      Probably because, by and large, government departments are inept and cannot be trusted.

      Case in point, go and read about the pasting ASIC is going to get in the Federal Court over the Westpoint fiasco… causing a company which thousands of families invested in to go into liquidation because they misled the court…

      The Libs have gone to someone a little more respectable than Treasury and should be commended for it.

    • Patrick says:

      03:40pm | 19/08/10

      The Libs said the accounting firm had been looking at the policies for the last two months, so either the Libs never intended to release costing to Treasury (and the"leak” is the excuse) or they just got their internal accountants to verify their own numbers.  How independent is that?

    • Barbara says:

      05:20pm | 19/08/10

      The Liberal costings have been independently audited by WHK Howarth that also does audits for the Government under contract, audits being their core business. They used the Treasuries own software and figures based on the forward estimates as produced for and by the Government.  And unlike the Treasuries public servants, this company is legally liable for any reports or calculations they produce, which means they can’t get away with fudging the bottom line like Treasury when the pressure is applied, as evidenced by the leak.  This companies independence is far superior than the Treasury Department, but if you do think they are corrupt or in the Libs pocket then say so and put your real name to your post, then wait for the knock at the door from their solicitors.  I also note that the Labor party after having received their copy yesterday, and no doubt read and re-read it, haven’t been able to pick the shite out of it - funny about that.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      05:43pm | 19/08/10

      Patrick says:03:40pm; Yes it was a slip of the tongue by Mr Patatoe Head Robb on that little beauty. And it has come out today after Hockey and Mr Patatoe Head’s independant accounting company of choice (Independant being the key expressed word) has strong ties to the Liberal party funny that and it is probably why they didn’t want to release the name of the company.

      Here’s a quote from the article….

      “We are asked to take both Horwath and the Coalition on trust. Then known as Hendry, Rae and Court, Horwath’s founding partner in 1938 was Charles Court, later Sir Charles, the long-serving Liberal premier of Western Australia and father of Richard Court, the Liberal premier from 1993 to 2001.”

      Read the rest here…

      http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/figures-checked-by-firm-with-liberal-ties-20100818-12f8u.html

      You are right you couldn’t trust this mob as far as you could throw, throw them back out the door on polling day is what I say

    • Skinny says:

      06:04pm | 19/08/10

      That would be Potato-you moron.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      06:41pm | 19/08/10

      Barbara says:05:20pm; “I also note that the Labor party after having received their copy yesterday, and no doubt read and re-read it, haven’t been able to pick the shite out of it - funny about that.”

      You obviously haven’t been watching the news today have you. Swan along with several political commentators have had some things to say about it. Also WHK Howarth has clearly stated it has based its results on figures given to them by the Liberal party, which haven’t been release in the report. So who knows what they are or where they come from, it started getting dodgy from there.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      08:46pm | 19/08/10

      Skinny says:06:04pm; rather be a moron than a snivelling lib, no I think I got it right.

    • Peter from the bush says:

      10:10pm | 19/08/10

      You people want a sneaky Liberal Government.Who is paying for the 1.5% tax that this MORON will put on food stuffs.Up goes interest rates,up goes the cost of living DOWN goes pensions and also UP goes electricity prices and all becuase you people want a sneak and a cheat to run OUR great country…wake up to yourselves….

    • TC says:

      10:13pm | 19/08/10

      It’s taken a while for the penny to drop but after some time Ive concluded that Rob r Charteris is a very clever Liberal plant to stop people voting Labor

    • fehowarth says:

      09:05am | 20/08/10

      The Coalition’s review of their saving and spending is worthless.  All it does is to confirm the figures and assumptions the Coalition gave them add up.  What should be of concern is the Coalition is rubbishing of a government department.  There is a serious lost of independence of government departments over the last thirty odd years cause by changing the way public servants are employed.  It is very hard to give independent advice when you can be sacked.  As for Labor leaking, what was in it for them?  We know that it allowed the Coalition the excuse not to have their policies reviewed.

    • Lorraine says:

      05:27pm | 20/08/10

      If all the candidate has to give is denigration of the opponent then that’s all we are going to get. Bitchy criticism is easy to deliver but it always comes from below. Frankly if I had my way I’d drown the lot of them and start again.
      I put a number in every box on my postal vote at least i felt in charge for a short time.

    • Ellis Wyatt says:

      01:25pm | 19/08/10

      I couldn’t imagine Gillard writing any books either, but if she did write one I would hope that it was more revealing about how she knifed Rudd than she has been to date.

    • Joan says:

      04:19pm | 19/08/10

      While bagging ~ Battlelines` she failed to mention her efforts in writing for Socialist Forum.-  not a book but an interesting read on how her Commie mind works and explains where she comes from.  A photocopy of it on Andrew Bolt site a couple of weeks ago.

    • CMF says:

      05:37pm | 19/08/10

      There are not enough vowels in the English language to accommodate a book written by Gillard.

      Surely we’re not about to vote for this bogan!

    • Nicole says:

      06:16pm | 19/08/10

      CMF, she’s destroys the English language!

    • Andrew says:

      12:31pm | 20/08/10

      “she’s destroys the English language!”

      That’s just adorably ironic.

    • Brian says:

      01:28pm | 19/08/10

      “Could you imagine if I ever penned a book like the book called Battlelines”.

      Gold!!!!

    • Person without a brain says:

      01:49pm | 19/08/10

      Please elaborate?

    • fairsfair says:

      02:10pm | 19/08/10

      ha ha yes - where would the lines be drawn? Perhaps behind the back of the opponent - oh and weapon of choice would be knife or flaming pink bat. Oh and I’d love to read the chapter on the affair she had with the married man (our esteemed minister for Small Business). People criticise Tony Abbott - but at least he admits his fault and puts them out there for all to see.  I for one don’t agree with everything he says, but I certainly have more respect for him on that alone.

    • Steve says:

      04:22pm | 19/08/10

      I couldn’t imagine Julia doing anything in her life that was not absolutely dedicated to advancing her career and the ALP’s fortunes.  Even her support for the Bulldogs is convenient and very very public.

      The narrowness of her life is a concern, a true apparachik

      At least Abbott was a surf lifesaver and a volunteer fire man - neither of which he made any fuss about until he took the leadership.

    • Steve says:

      04:24pm | 19/08/10

      I couldn’t imagine Julia doing anything in her life that was not absolutely dedicated to advancing her career and the ALP’s fortunes.  Even her support for the Bulldogs is convenient and very very public.

      The narrowness of her life is a concern, a true apparachik

      At least Abbott was a surf lifesaver and a volunteer fire man - neither of which he made any fuss about until he took the leadership.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      05:56pm | 19/08/10

      Steve says:04:24pm; i can tell you one thing! If I ever needed to be saved from a first floor fire, and rAbbott came up the fire ladder. I’d do our country proud and pull him in and run off with the ladder, quick smart.

    • Andrew says:

      01:29pm | 19/08/10

      Pitty for Julia very few people are at home watching Press Clubb speeches in the middle of the day on Thursdays.

    • Shane says:

      03:50pm | 19/08/10

      I imagine they’ll see the highlights though on the 6pm news, no?

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      04:51pm | 19/08/10

      All the Labor-voting welfare recipients would have been home watching on their Plasma Bonus sets, courtesy of those of us who actually work and pay tax.

      She was preaching to the converted in other words.

    • James1 says:

      05:13pm | 19/08/10

      Tony,

      I actually know a few dole bludgers from my child’s school who have told me to vote for Abbott because he keeps out the dark-skinned boat people so that the bludgers’ pensions can be increased.  They did not use such delicate words, obviously, but the ALP has no stranglehold over the ignorant dole bludger vote.

    • watchingwithinterest says:

      01:30pm | 19/08/10

      Julia Gillard might win the election but she won’t have won with grace and dignity.  Her continual personal insults at Mr Abbott means that she displays all the attributes of NSW Labor - win at any cost.  The question is “what cost?”. As we all know the fowl smell remains long after the %^$t been cleaned up

    • Tyler says:

      02:11pm | 19/08/10

      Yes, because Tony Abbott has been a paradigm of personal honesty and integrity. He would never stoop to running… dare I say it… a negative campaign.

      Oh, wait. I forgot. The Liberal’s entire election platform has been a constant attack of Labor and Julia Gillard! Win at any cost? Let’s not speak about that as if its a feature unique only to Labor. The Liberals have been running a non-stop attack blitz since the campaign started!

    • watchingwithinterest says:

      02:55pm | 19/08/10

      Yes Tyler, I agree.  But the Liberal party have not attacked Julia Gillard personally.  They have attacked Labor’s performance whilst in government. There is a difference.

      Imagine if the liberal party had attacked Ms Gillard personally, then one would say that they left no holds bar, I don’t think you can say that.

    • Ben says:

      03:15pm | 19/08/10

      Highlighting policy and managment failures of the current Government and personal attacks against the opposition leader are two very different things. People see the Liberals come off as negative because they are contstantly trying to remind people of the poor decisions this Government has made. You can’t highlight what went wrong without an undertone of negativity, but that’s not the same as constantly using baseless phrases negative phrases -  ie. “Tony Abott will raise the cost of living”

    • Mark says:

      04:54pm | 19/08/10

      You can’t attack a woman personally, so she has gotten away with blue murder in this campaign with the personal attack on Mr Abbott. This and the back-stabbing of poor, little KRudd, what an unpleasant bully….must be from the Labor Left? I find it hard to imagine that people are even contemplating voting for this person…but there are the little old ladies thinking, “won’t it be nice to have a woman PM, lots of fodder for Womens Weekly”...that and the true believers will get her across the line.

    • Roja says:

      05:03pm | 19/08/10

      Representing a person as a lemon isn’t attacking them personally? 

      Besides that you miss the point.  The Gruen transfer highlighted that all but two of the liberal party adverts have been attacking labor, rather than focussing on what they offer.

    • PJ says:

      01:31pm | 19/08/10

      This women is JOAN KIRNER on steroids.

    • smokin joe says:

      04:08pm | 19/08/10

      Oh yes PJ I remember her only too well and the rest of the mottly crew.
      Can you imagine this piece of work (Gillard) on the world stage? How embarassing to have to listen to the occerisms…...crrrrrringe

    • yg of Sydney says:

      05:11pm | 19/08/10

      Any respect for your country’s PM? Do you expect people from other countries will respect Australia if everyone has attitude like yours in this country?

    • Phil says:

      06:07pm | 19/08/10

      yg Did Joolya show any respect to Tony Abbott. No she did not. The ALP ads are a joke, misleading and dishonest.
      The lib ads whilst being negative, are truthful in that they point out the poor policy delivery and waste and mismangement of the dopes in power right now.
      For all of you that feel they have done a good job, you obviously dont pay enough tax.
      I have no respect for Ms Gillard. Her decisions, policy and personality grate on me in a big way.

    • Brian Taylor says:

      08:28pm | 19/08/10

      @ yg of Sydney, respect is earned, its not a right
      Ms Gillard has not earned any respect so far.

    • fred in Brisbane says:

      01:38pm | 19/08/10

      Julia’s answers on the asylum seeker questions reveals her/Labor’s misunderstanding of asylum seekers coming from across the sea vis a vis refugees selected for resettlement. Tony was not tested, and remains in refugee denial.

      Julia spoke of a bipartisan commitment to 13 750 refugees coming each year and described it as giving them refuge. Those lucky refugees are given more than shelter from pursuit or danger or trouble , they are granted a new life with permanent residence in Australia.
      The Gillard /Rudd government did not have a good asylum seeker policy but Abbott/Morrison are knowingly deceptive and have no respect for the UN Refugees Convention which Robert Gordon Menzie signed us up to in 1954.

      Both major parties are testomony to the need for a Human Rights Charter which the Labor Government wimped out on.

    • Barbara says:

      02:30pm | 19/08/10

      Signed in 1954 hey? So just how relevent is it in our modern times?  Don’t you think it deserves some revision about now, as it’s a very different world to the 50’s, unless you think Abbott will take us back to then.

    • Crash says:

      03:56pm | 19/08/10

      @Barbara

      Much like the ANZUS treaty (1951), which was used to drag us into two wars under the Howard government.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      05:41pm | 19/08/10

      Barbara,
      1954 is exactly where Abbott wants to take us, so it will be relevant.

    • Gregg says:

      08:33pm | 19/08/10

      Labor’s lack of appreciation goes beyond misunderstanding when the Immigration minister claims there is no queue for what does he think the 15M refugees in refugee centres are.
      Each year 6000 refugees are taken and supported by the government in settlement.
      Of the remaining 7750, they are for special protection, offshore via sponsorship by organisations or Individuals from refugee camps or onshore as with the boat people who are taking us, Senator Evans it seems and true desperate refugees for a ride because they have money to use people smugglers.
      The more boat people, the less sponsored refugees, so tha’t's the queue and these so called asylum seekers know the TPVs have been removed and Australia is a soft landing with a practised story very difficult to disprove.
      They probably still have access to money while we’re supporting them with taxpayers money.
      Get rid of Labor
      Re-instate TPVs and watch the boat numbers drop
      And return to assisting truly desperate refugees.

    • Laura says:

      01:39pm | 19/08/10

      Sounds like the REAL, nasty, 2 faced, backstabbing, desperate Gillard on show. She would be terrified about possibly losing the election after knifing Australia’s Prime Minister in his first term, wouldn’t you be?

    • sue says:

      01:55pm | 19/08/10

      as opposed to the Real Laura on show

    • Amused says:

      02:43pm | 19/08/10

      Your right Laura, she would be terrified as to her punishment for not winning this election, the Gillard election, funny how there is never any message of Labor these days. Swan is the same though, he is almost maniacal in his attacks, I think he too is terrified of anyone seeing the books.

    • Aus needs a revolution says:

      01:41pm | 19/08/10

      Hang on. Didnt she say last night that she wanted to have a more positive campaign????

    • nic says:

      01:48pm | 19/08/10

      Was going to say the same thing. Of course, a negative campaign means it is the ‘other’ side that has been negative. What a pity journo’s haven’t the balls to call her on it.

    • Sherlock says:

      01:52pm | 19/08/10

      Yeah so what? Surely after three years you’ve discovered that what Labor say and what Labor do are two different things.

      This is the woman who has gone from “delay is denial” to “there won’t be any carbon tax under my government” in only 9 months.

      Gillard is desperate to draw attention away from both her governments and her personal record since the last election. Sledging Abbot nay any other Liberal helps achieve that goal

    • Sherlock says:

      02:07pm | 19/08/10

      Oh and of course what the ALP says depends on who they’re talking to at the time.

      Gillard on Monday

      ‘‘There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead,’‘

      Apparently three days is a long time in politics because at the National Press Club today Gillard said

      “People are making a decision whether they will have a prime minister who believes in climate change, who is committed to leading a national debate to get a carbon pollution reduction scheme and the market mechanism we need to price carbon, whilst delivering on the policies I’ve outlined,”

      I must admit though I’m not actually sure what that means.

    • mervyn ford says:

      03:26pm | 19/08/10

      maybe we saw the old julia, or is there now another, bad julia, making it 3 julia’s

    • James1 says:

      04:54pm | 19/08/10

      You say that like it is unique to the ALP, Sherlock.  Please tell me you don’t really believe that any politician is honest or good.

    • rod fellows says:

      01:41pm | 19/08/10

      The sentiment seems to be that Gillard will win by a nose.

    • watchingwithinterest says:

      02:57pm | 19/08/10

      hehehe

    • All says:

      04:19pm | 19/08/10

      Followed in the rear by a large following.

    • Anthony says:

      01:45pm | 19/08/10

      Who do you vote for a bitch or a bastard?

    • Louisa says:

      01:46pm | 19/08/10

      What a vile woman….. typical though

    • Pip says:

      07:58pm | 19/08/10

      You want to talk about nasty, vile,sneaky deceitful etc.  One Nation and Pauline Hanson took 1 million votes from the Coalition and what did Tony Abbott do?  He set up a slush fund, managed by Peter Coleman, father-in-law of Peter Costello, to put a stop to her political career.  We all know that the final upshot of that was a gaol sentence for Hanson.  What about the dying asbestos victim Bernie Banton, when Abbott accused him of “not being pure of heart”.  Yeh right, Abbott’s a good bloke. NOT.

    • jg says:

      01:47pm | 19/08/10

      Well, at least we’re seeing the real julia gillard. A catty, bitchy, down right nasty piece of work who will let nothing stand in her way.

      Just ask Rudd.

    • Ken says:

      01:48pm | 19/08/10

      I hope alot of people get to see this undignified, slanderous, bitchy, untrustworthy, negative, lying Julia Gillard on display before they vote.

    • Paul Neri says:

      01:51pm | 19/08/10

      Who the f word does Julia think she is reprimanding next Sunday’s PM for “interfering in the chain of [military] command” !

      Her arms-length from the military attitude is to absent herself from national security committee meetings!

      Hasn’t she heard of the principle that in a democracy the military is accountable to the civilian Government and through them, the people!

      God help us under Julia! A rudderless Government standing idly by an out-of-control military machine!

      Look out Fiji.

    • working family going backwards says:

      01:54pm | 19/08/10

      Why did Jooliar fail to attend the economics debate scheduled for Tuesday? She is a gutless liar and a fraud. Good bye Jooliar, you wont be missed.

    • mona says:

      01:55pm | 19/08/10

      I was not a big fan of Kevin but please please bring him back NOW

    • Joolz says:

      01:57pm | 19/08/10

      I hope she is voted out and humiliated as the shortest serving female prime minister in the world.

    • MarK says:

      01:58pm | 19/08/10

      Been the same all along.

      Play the man not the ball.

      Fotr all her protestations Labor have no real vision for the economy. She has not got a positive message.

      When Abbott became leader the death of the Liberal party was fortold. I can actually remember reading stories from the msm hoe the Libs would splinter, how they would would be wiped out at this election, how Labor were here for a generation.

      We heard all these stories about the great talent available to Labor especially the talent inherent in the deputy PM.

      Well the scoreboard now reads one very frightened lady PM and one opposition leader that has called the shots for 6 months and got rid of a PM.

      The real winner is pretty clear.

    • Mal says:

      02:41pm | 19/08/10

      Right on MarK.  You’d think she’d have something else to talk about .... like her Government’s record.  OOPS.

    • The Badger says:

      02:55pm | 19/08/10

      The end is nigh for Abbott and the conservatives.

      Abbott has no vision
      Abbott has no for a policy
      Abbott is economically bankrupt

      The real winner is Labor
      Consign this group of Howard hangers on to the dustbin of history.
      Launch a new party and call it what they are
      The conservative hayseed party

    • MarK says:

      03:53pm | 19/08/10

      Shhh Mal…..don’t let the record out of the bag ffs raspberry

    • Steve says:

      04:24pm | 19/08/10

      Sorry to The Badger - the taxidermist for you!

    • Roja says:

      05:12pm | 19/08/10

      Ah MarK, that is funny.  I’ve seen Abbott play with a ball, he should stick to playing with men.

    • The Badger says:

      05:32pm | 19/08/10

      Steve
      You have to catch me first

      Eagles may soar, but badgers don’t get sucked into jet engines.

    • nosthow says:

      01:59pm | 19/08/10

      Yes she did Tory and who could blame her ? Its time the Abbott farce ended and mercifully we only have 2 days to go before Abbott and his ancient Coalition , relics of a bygone era, are cast adrift into the political wilderness. No policies and no vision for Australia doth not a PM make ! A Gillard Labor government will take Australia forward with things like the NBN, Healthcare, PPL etc etc. The “Mad Monk” will no doubt find other gainful employ - perhaps over in WA in the mines where he promised to send unemployed persons under 30yo ! And between his mining shifts he will be able to read his book “Battlelines” where he extols policies draconian like Worchoices ! Tony Abbott loves Workchoices make no mistake about that !

    • Amused says:

      02:49pm | 19/08/10

      Funny thing, how all the slander, and lies and the repeated lines on insults have resonated with some voters.  It amazes me, but obviously it is true that if you say anything over and over again, that you can rely on some idiots picking it up and repeating it as though it is the truth.

    • nosthow says:

      04:19pm | 19/08/10

      @Amused - thank you Amused for your ringing endorsement of my highlighting Tonys lack of everything this election !

    • MDMConnell says:

      04:57pm | 19/08/10

      Is this guy and brian and badger all the same person?

      No matter what the topic is supposed to be about, they all seem to cut and paste exactly the same silly rant over and over in every thread.

    • nosthow says:

      07:19pm | 19/08/10

      @MDMConnell - thanks MD - another ringing endorsement - cheers buddy !

    • Elizzie says:

      02:05pm | 19/08/10

      That’s all Labor can do-bag out the other side because they can’t crow about their record. This is what you are teaching our kids Julia-that bullying pays off if you win.. well I certainly hope you lose big time as it will be a gain for Australia & common decency & our bottom line if the Libs are returned. It is laughable the way the Labor team in particular Wayne arts degree Swan the Leaker attacks Abbott’s economic credentials-at least he has an economics degree & happens to be an Oxford Rhodes scholar. Tall poppy syndrome, minus correct enunciation is being taught in Labor’s education revolution. You are un-Australian Gillard & do not deserve to be called a leader.  BTW anyone notice how she twisted what Abbott said last night about the GFC. This is where they are dangerous, take an element of truth then twist it.

    • Pip says:

      08:12pm | 19/08/10

      Swan also is qualified to be the Treasurer and just for the record, although this didn’t make it to the main stream media, a study released yesterday, by Lateral Economics, states that Labor’s fiscal stimulus policy during the height of the global financial crisis will nett the Federal govt. $16 billion in tax receipts from those who would otherwise have been unemployed.    Over a quarter of the debt accrued through their fiscal programs will be repaid from the taxes paid by those same workers who would otherwise have been unemployed and on the dole.  How do you like them apples ?????  The fiscal stimulus worked.

    • Gregg says:

      08:59pm | 19/08/10

      Well Pip, for starters you’re basing that on the assumption of so many jobs saved because of the stimulus and it is not so true.

      If you take `$16B and consider say average taxation of $20,000 which is probably on the high side for a year, you would have to have about 800,000 workers or 400,000 for the full two years.

      Once again the figures do not just add up unless their stimulus was rorted so badly that people were pulling enormous wages! 

      It’s the same ol with Labor, just like their claims of all the NBN benefits with not even figures thrown out there on that and Julia at launch seen watching kids waving on a big screen! Wow!

    • Rosie says:

      02:10pm | 19/08/10

      What we saw was the real Julia up there lecturing the jurnos on what a naughty boy Tony Abbott was and they must under no circumstances allow themselves to believe otherwise.

      I say again the woman is desperate not be a 3 month PM wonder. Please can I say to the media; Julia Gillard has more to lose than Tony Abbott. If Tony Abbott loses he will have a better chance next time round. If Julia loses her ambition to be an elected PM is gone, no more chances for her!

      Let me tell you, I know exactly whose side I would like to be on win or lose.

    • Barbara says:

      02:44pm | 19/08/10

      You could be right about Abbott Rosie.  I can’t see them dumping him unless the losing margin is massive.  He was able to drag the party back from oblivion, and he surprised all the pundits that he wouldn’t be able to keep it together.  He really took it to Labor.  And this election has afforded him massive exposure to the public, many of whom assumed he was the boogeyman described by the Labor party.

    • The Badger says:

      02:58pm | 19/08/10

      Naive Rosie

      Abbott will be gone soon after the election.

      Far too right wing and a stereotype.

      Try finding an opposition leader who has a policy other than no and lose the Howard era dullards.

    • Richard says:

      04:21pm | 19/08/10

      The Libs owe their recent comeback to Abbott’s good performance as opposition leader. The Badger, Seano, Rob r Charteries, Holly, Housewife49 et al will always try to slander and denigrate him. The predict he will be cast out into the wilderness if the Libs lose just like they predicted that the Libs would slide into oblivion when he ascended to the leadership, and just like they predicted it was game over for him when Gillard came to power. They accuse him of being “phoney tony”, but the truth is that in this campaign he has been frank ,straight-talking and honest compared to Gillard’s spin, question-dodging waffle and false claims that she spoke “off the cuff” at her Labor launch when her notes were right there in front of her.

      Tony Abbott will be shown loyalty even if the Libs lose on saturday because he gave them a bit of fighting spirit, stiffened their resolve and conducted himself with dignity in the face of an unprecedented campaign of personal attacks against him by Labor, Unions, the Media (particularly TV media) and Left-wing political organisations like Get-Up.

      The funny thing is, even if Abbott does decide to step down, Turnbull is still waiting in the wings to retake the mantle once more. There is such depth of talent in the Liberal party that there can only be one rational choice for all voters this saturday, although an emotive decision to vote for Gillard because she is the first woman PM is also a valid choice because of the progress that represents. Be warned though, the novelty will wear off after a while if she wins, and then we are left with an inferior government. Choose wisely therefore.

    • Roja says:

      05:24pm | 19/08/10

      @Richard - there are a lot more people than you listed bagging Abbott.  Perhaps you haven’t noticed but his popularity as leader does not reflect the popular vote for the liberal party.

      I know he brought the liberal party from the depths of utter joke to serious contender, which surprised many, but like many swinging voters I sincerely hope that Turnbull leads the libs to the next election. 

      You need to understand that he is a polarising figure, so while rusted on liberal voters like yourself love him with a passion - for many others, myself included, that passion is in the opposite direction. 

      As for depth, if that is the case why is it that you have Hockey as shadow treasurer and thought Barnaby Joyce was (briefly) a good choice as finance minister?  They are charisma politicians, not accountants and have been badly out of their depth in any serious discussions in their portfolios.  Particularly when compared to the likes of Costello, who along with Keating go down as two of the best treasurers in political history.

    • The Badger says:

      05:37pm | 19/08/10

      @Richard
      Abbott has no talent, no for a policy and no chance after this.
      Turnbull is the only decent one of the lot.
      Turnbull would have won this election
      Turnbull vs Rudd would have been an interesting election

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      06:00pm | 19/08/10

      On’ya comrade Rosie

      The Badger says:05:37pm; I’m with you on Turnbull, now there’s a man with some real ticker

    • Jack says:

      02:18pm | 19/08/10

      The Punch would be a far better read if they could weed out all the Young Lib trolls (and the Labor equivalent) and their incessant bleating. I know you guys *think* you are somehow advancing your cause, but you really arent.

    • MarK says:

      03:51pm | 19/08/10

      Having an opinion does not necessarily make a troll.

      Going on what you wrote you ideal forum would be one where everyone believed that simultaneously all parties deserved to win and to lose by any margin but not really because we can’t talk about politics.

      Or is it just opinions you don’t agree with that cause you angst?

      Maybe a “Jack only” forum would be more you cup of tea?

      I know it may come as a shock but people actually think differently on politics. Some people even think!!! And then we have Rob…oh well.

      A forum based on political news and current events is probably not the place to come if you don’t want views that are differing, especially to your own.

    • Crash says:

      03:52pm | 19/08/10

      Wholeheartedly agree.  The one-eyed from both sides are just depressing to see, constantly rehashing the same hypocritical view points and refusing to listen to anything else

    • Jack says:

      04:28pm | 19/08/10

      What was it that the strawman needed in Oz? A brain?

      There is a difference between a political discussion/argument, and a bunch of party hacks from both sides just repeating JEWLIAR FILLARD / TORY RABBBIT ad nauseum. It just causes everyone with a brain to switch off and go elsewhere.

    • Roja says:

      05:29pm | 19/08/10

      @Jack - perhaps there should be a ‘rusted on’ discussion for the party hacks, while the swinging voters get their own forum to discuss the relative merits of each party.  I find it worth perservering on this forum if you just learn to skip past certain regular contributors that parrot the same crap like…

      @MarK - thanks for proving Jack’s point so eloquently.

    • Harriet says:

      02:20pm | 19/08/10

      Yes Rosie we all know you like naughty boy Tony, so why are you writing him off so soon.

    • Holly says:

      02:24pm | 19/08/10

      I watched the press club address today and it was nothing like you have described.  Yes she made a few gentle jokes regarding Abbott which seemed to go down ok.  I heard a few negative comments about the coalition costings -with good reason - they are ripping money out of the PBS, education and trades training plus fudging their figures and lying about why they did their costings this way i.e. the costings have been with the accountants for 2 months - not the 4 days they would have had us believe. Therefore their whole posturing about the treasury leak was just that.

      Many of the comments you have attributed to Gillard about Tony Abbott were contained in responses to questions rather than a part of the 15 minute so called “evisceration”.
      “The one positive note in the speech” - really.  Julia Gillard gave a detailed run down of the positive things the Labor government has achieved for the country and I thought outlined very strongly her positive message for the future.  Surely she is allowed to compare her policies with those of the coalition and tell us why hers are better.

      I have to seriously question whether you really listened to the whole of this address or were too busy writing this column or sending tweets.  Why is your column posted at 1.14pm,  well before the event actually finished.

    • Paris44 says:

      03:14pm | 19/08/10

      I agree with Holy. I thought the Prime Minister presented a clear thoughtful address outlining the positives and the plans for the future.The alternative government is too frightening to imagine. The opposition members behave like children and really give the public no credit for intelligence. I’m sick of the assylum seekers being described as ‘boat people’ so they have no identity, no stories to tell,made to appear worthless. Wake up Australia and get real.

    • Joan says:

      04:08pm | 19/08/10

      Guess Commie Gillard gently knifed the peoples PM Rudd too. I recall in 2007 a $20 billion surplus now 3 years on Labor costing Australian taxpayer $100 million per day.  That`s Labor report card. Labor Costing Australians more every day , greater worry than Liberal costings. I recall Swan tossed budget in trash just one month after drawing up….. Swan not up to it…. look at three years of track record, debt and more debt

    • All says:

      04:24pm | 19/08/10

      Which Govt dept is the “Holly” hollowman unit running out of?

    • The Scarlet Pimpernel says:

      03:03pm | 19/08/10

      I watched part of it and what I found really sad was that she actually seemed to believe what she said when she stated she’d stand on her record of promises.

      I don’t know about you, but the kids at our local school still have not got their computer 3 YEARS after it was promised. One of my mate’s kids finishes school soon and we are having bets on whether he will ever see the promised computer.

      I see today that the boats are still coming 3 YEARS after Labor promised they’d be stopped.

      My neighbour has had to take leave without pay because the promised childcare places are still not there 3 YEARS after they were promised and they can’t get a place until next year.

      She cannot be trusted. Just like Rudd, another dud.

    • Jack says:

      03:33pm | 19/08/10

      You should all vote for Tony because of <made up story> and <anecdotal evidence> and STOP THE BOATS.

      Right guys?!

    • Patrick says:

      03:59pm | 19/08/10

      Our Primary School got their computers/interactive whiteboards and have almost finished construction.  Sounds like it is on time and on budget.

      No one can stop the boats.  If they say they can they are lying.

      I’ll take promises to build something when some is built, over promises never to build anything, ever.

    • Hamish says:

      04:25pm | 19/08/10

      Patrick, Howard stopped the boats. It’s not even hard. All you need is a bit of political will - bring back TPVs, make family reunion harder, get the activists out of the refugee tribunal and generally break the link between turning up uninvited on a boat and permanent residency. All the boats would start heading to Canada tomorrow.

      Labor know how to stop the boats, but they don’t have the political will to do it.

      And even Labor have admitted the laptop policy is a stinker.

    • Chris says:

      03:15pm | 19/08/10

      Yes, this says it all in the end. The entire Labor campaign has been like this and the media has just gone along with it.  They are running a campaign as bad and underhand as the ‘dodgy how to vote cards’ affair in South Australia at the last election.  They have not even had the guts, the moral courage to put their name to their own anti-Abbott election material. They have deliberately cut and pasted to get a false message across. The media has been informed, asked to do a story on it, publish a letter or two saying what is going on - and they have done nothing at all.
      It is undemocratic and partisan and now this woman gets the last say.
      If the media had any guts it would do a hatchet job tomorrow - but it won’t/

    • Jack says:

      03:29pm | 19/08/10

      Ah, the last call of the conservative - its not our fault we lost, the meeja and the dumb facebook voters robbed us!

      Kinda cute that you think the libs should claim moral high ground on misleading electoral material. Points for effort (and spamming this in every story)

    • Disgusted says:

      03:16pm | 19/08/10

      Hope she’s been as mad as that to her own ‘Team’- over all their disgraceful stuff ups…they are the ones who should be getting her tirade & wrath ....what a joke she is

    • Fergo says:

      03:25pm | 19/08/10

      It’s easy to be Negative on Abbott because that’s all the policy free Liberals desrve - a dose of their own

    • mervyn ford says:

      03:28pm | 19/08/10

      I’m surprised no-one has picked up on her bagging collingwood during the brisbane forum, she has lost me, go pies!!!!!

    • Mitch says:

      04:59pm | 19/08/10

      Collingwood like being hated. It’s a compliment.

    • Steven Kaye says:

      03:49pm | 19/08/10

      She knows that not many people will see this and that she’s talking to a crowd of sycophants so she can be as nasty as she likes. She also knows that she can count on her pals at the networks to put together stories showing her in the best possible light. Sweet!

    • Brenda says:

      03:52pm | 19/08/10

      I’m a 73yr old pensioner and I’ve watched every televised event featuring either Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott.
      I watched Julia Gillard at the National Press Club today. Last night I watched SKY News full coverage of her and Abbott at the Brisbane public forum.
      Julia Gillard is just awesome!
      Australia now has the opportunity to elect a PM with team leadership ability + staggering intelligence + astounding communication skills + a capacity to act with poise while under relentless pressure etc.etc.
      And - in my lifetime - Australia may finally catch up with the world and elect a woman (an awesome woman) as Prime Minister.

    • Yeah right says:

      04:02pm | 19/08/10

      And a 73 yo pensioner uses words like ‘awesome’ and answers blogs. You Labor lackies are becoming quite creative in your old age

    • Marg says:

      04:15pm | 19/08/10

      Brenda, you are a solly old bugger and just don’t have a clue. Go back to the nursing home marand veg out !!!!!!!

    • Paris44 says:

      04:19pm | 19/08/10

      I agree,bravo!

    • All says:

      04:31pm | 19/08/10

      Well it does appear to be how a pimply junior in a Govt office would speak when told to blog as a 73 yo. Orders from the department spin doctor, - mention astounding, intelligence, communication skills and send in a blog as a pensioner. Forgot to inspect the blog before commital and so ‘awesome’ slipped through.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      04:45pm | 19/08/10

      Hi Brenda

      Better see your optometrist.

      And get your ears checked as well.

    • Super D says:

      04:49pm | 19/08/10

      Sounds more like a 23 year old staffer than a 73 year old pensioner.  I honestly cannot imagine someone born in the 1930’s using +‘s and etc’s.  The oldies were taught how to construct a sentence properly.

    • xyz says:

      05:02pm | 19/08/10

      FYI Yeah right ... “awesome” is a very old word (c.1670) and came back into vogue from the 1980’s. Also, my 72 yo pensioner father sometimes even uses the ‘F’ word and is an computer nut!

    • MDMConnell says:

      05:07pm | 19/08/10

      Poor “Brenda”.

      Sent it to the proof-readers at ALP HQ next time.

    • Roja says:

      05:42pm | 19/08/10

      So MarK, where are you with you’re cliched attacking the man (or in this case the 73 yo pensioner with an opinion) comments now? 

      @Brenda - good on you for not being a stereotype, as you may have noted it clearly freaks out rusted on liberal supporters.

    • robby99 says:

      09:04pm | 19/08/10

      Brenda, you must be a labor troll.  This exact comment, word for word, is on another forum.

    • Super D says:

      04:03pm | 19/08/10

      The Gillard rant underlines the wisdom of Abbott not allowing a second debate.  I’m sure Gillard’s opening remarks would have been identical in either setting.

      The ALP would have loved to have footage of Abbott reacting to the berating or better yet losing it and responding in kind so they could spin it as Tony beating up on a woman.

      I wonder how many people will conclude that “The Real Julia” is actually not a very nice lady.

    • Jack says:

      04:31pm | 19/08/10

      So, uh, you think it is good that he didnt debate her because he cant control his temper? That’s a terrible argument.

      If she really was so bad, surely he could have torn her baseless allegations to shreds?

    • Super D says:

      06:43pm | 19/08/10

      No Jack, I think he would have maintained his composure why Gillard let loose with a barrage of lies.  The ALP would have been hoping he would lose it but they have misjudged him since he assumes the leadership if not longer.

    • kp says:

      04:18pm | 19/08/10

      Julia Gillard is a backstabbing, manipulative, untrustworthy horrible person - I won’t vote for her just on principle alone !!!!!!!!!!!  I know she will bring in a carbon tax and we will have to pay the highest bills ever recorded in history.  Interest rates are going to go sky high and everything in this country is going to HELL !!!!  If she does get in on Saturday, I hope all you people who voted her in suffer big time.  I really do.  You only have yourselves to blame, AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!  SUCK IT UP.

    • Michael says:

      04:23pm | 19/08/10

      The National Press Club today saw Julia Gillard defuse and deflate the ‘professionals’ throwing questions at her.

      Last night at the Queensland-located ‘town hall forum’, something perhaps even more significant and heartening occurred. Especially in the light of Tony Abbott supposedly having ‘won’ the NSW-located event.

      As I understand it, both the NSW and Queensland audiences numbered 200. 70 of these folks remained “undecided” in NSW in the after-the-event straw-poll, only 42 did so in Queensland.

      The majority of those (essentially the same ‘type’ of voter in both States) who were now “decided”, leaned towards Julia Gillard.

      She swung “undecided” votes to her, in short - not only just ‘narrowly’ exceeding Tony Abbott’s tally for the night as the Murdoch press headlines their reporting on the event. (She had over 10% of his total as her lead on him, not so very “narrow” in statistical terms.)

      On Saturday, garnering the “undecided"s will, as no previous election has, secure government. That might sound bleeding obvious, but if the ‘cliffhanger’ the politicians describe and the pollsters predict is the real nature of this election, then “undecided"s who may previously have been more disengaged than engagedly-undecided (if you see the distinction) are brought to Labor by Julia Gillard, then that will be the game-changer.

      Mind you, I suspect many an “undecided” is finding it easier to be decided towards Labor after the debate-shy antics of Tony Abbott and the revisited voodoo economics style ‘costings when you don’t actually have costings’ antics of Hockey and Robb in the last few days.

      Much used to be made of an Abbott and Costello leadership team being worth a few headlines. Nothing compared to what these THREE Stooges have come up with. Off-screen inanities from Malcolm Turnbull adding to the mix. And Bishop and Bishop and Barnaby and Pyne and Truss and Andrews and… well, all any of them have to do is open their mouths, really.

    • mona says:

      04:31pm | 19/08/10

      a very nasty woman and because she’s a woman she may win.

    • Go Liberals says:

      04:31pm | 19/08/10

      The real question i’d pose to all the people complaining about the lack of policy from the opposition is how many of their policies were ultimately adopted by the government?

      Was it not the case that the ultimate show of the oppositions effectiveness and vision was the acknowledgement from the government that it had lost its own way? There are limits as to the policy proposals an opposition can produce, particularly when the government is failing to deliver on so many issues.

      I would say that in reality this has clearly been the best opposition in recent decades which has clearly protected the peoples interest and should be allowed a chance to govern. They have been negative for good reason and saved our country from even worse disaster if the CPRS had gone ahead. Strange that no one is thanking them for installing tony abbott and saving this country from economic ruin by 1 vote.

      Tony Abbott is as close as you can get to an honest politician. I hope the liberals win this weekend, but sadly i suspect we are in for another 3 years of communist government with the greens in power before a massive landslide win to the liberals after that.

    • Roja says:

      05:48pm | 19/08/10

      Lol, that’s hell funny.  The irony that we have another 3 years of communist government after this weeks election is not lost on me, on so many levels.  “Reds under the bed” and all that, pure gold!

      I mean seriously, communist goverments have very strong convictions - I don’t think you can accuse any party of that in this election.

    • John says:

      04:42pm | 19/08/10

      I never thought she was very nice

    • chris says:

      04:43pm | 19/08/10

      Isn’t it odd that the Greens asked Swan if they could use treasury to do their costings but the government refused

    • stephen says:

      07:22pm | 19/08/10

      The Greens don’t use computers.
      Bob has abacus. His ‘children’ use their toes.

    • Against the Man says:

      04:59pm | 19/08/10

      Sunday may be the 1st day of a good future or it may not be. If Gillard wins it will be another 3 years of watching her and her friends make a greater mess of things.

    • fran says:

      05:48pm | 19/08/10

      I’ve just seen a replay of the Press Club luncheon today.  I felt ill at the vile invective, snide remarks and unfunny personal and professional comments directed towards Ms Gillard’s opponent.
      I shudder to think of the example this is to our impressionable children of “win at any cost”.  Ther lesson Ms Gillard gave today was ” Give decency and respect away just as long as you win, win, win”

    • Stewart Henstock says:

      06:31pm | 19/08/10

      I’m not too hot for her NBN.
      I thought it would be one fast speed for everyone.
      Apparently the only people to benefit from a faster speed are those who have the big bucks.
      The top broadband speed will cost consumers around $200 a month with the slowest version…not that much faster than what we have now…will be around $49 per month.
      Not only that but it will take 8 yrs to complete…that’s if everything goes to plan and we all know that’s a lock…lol
      Now for Julia..i don’t mind her and i don’t mind Tony…BUT…i can’t stand the Labor Party.
      The same power brokers who have ruined NSW will eventually do the same federally.
      I don’t think people realize that another 3 yrs of Labor will result in Australia becoming so in debt that by the time they wake up, smell the roses and vote the Coalition back in we will be billions in debt.
      It will then become the Coalitions job to pay off the debt…and you know what that means…the razor gangs will return….kiss the reforms good bye.

    • Holly says:

      07:10pm | 19/08/10

      I have been making a study of the comments posted on this site - yes I am a political tragic - but I can assure you I am not a staffer, I am retired and have voted for at least 5 different parties in my time so I guess I would be called a swinging voter..  One thing that has struck me throughout is the utter vitriol and bitchiness shown by coalition supporting women.  I know that emotion plays a part but really the Rosies and Joans etc of this world, I have not seen anything positive or well reasoned about your leader in your messages - only bucket loads of hate.  Is this all you are capable of?  Is it a broader reflection of the coalition born to rule mentality.  Are you a true reflection of the psyche of your party?

    • Gregg says:

      09:22pm | 19/08/10

      Coming from you Holly, that is the funniest response ever in the whole campaign!
      What about the Merry 73 YO pensioner staffer!
      Where’s your mate Marilyn btw, off bakinganother Shepherds Pie?

    • Chris kelly says:

      07:48pm | 19/08/10

      Let me get this straight.  This Labor Government is adding $100 million every single day to the debt my children and my children’s children will have to pay back and they have the gall to claim they are better economic managers than the Libs.  Oh PLEEASE!!  And another thing, the deal Julia did to kill off Prime Minister Rudd will likely see her step down to hand over to Prime Minister Shorten in the very near future – mark my words!  She doesn’t even attempt to deny it when asked how long she would serve!

    • dennis poole says:

      07:55pm | 19/08/10

      There is one gutless Liberal politician, who if he had the fortitude would have wiped Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard off the table but his jelly like spine took him somewhere else. He sooked because John would not step down and Labor has shown rightly or wrongly that if you are becoming a liability you should go or be shoved. Peter Costello will rue the day he never challenged harder. He would be our next prime minister by a country mile. History will look on him quite negatively.

    • Stewart Henstock says:

      07:55pm | 19/08/10

      I want to know what Gillard will do when her mining tax doesn’t make it through the Senate.
      The Greens wont take it as it is and i’m sure the big 3 mines wont tolerate an increase in the tax.

    • fehowarth says:

      08:57am | 20/08/10

      The Greens have already said that they will try to amend the tax but would let it through.  We all will be the worse off if Mr. Abbott wins and there is no tax.

    • Goldie says:

      08:05pm | 19/08/10

      Either some people love to get on this forum and say outrageously dumb, red-necked, ignorant things to get a reaction, or else the electorate and the people posting here frighten the proverbial out of me. Has The Punch been calling for postings from the same people as the Morgan Gallop polling team?

    • Brian Taylor says:

      08:19pm | 19/08/10

      Now the REAL Julia comes out of hiding eh?
      Mean and spiteful, you go girl, people need to finally see the REAL you

    • Bob Elbrook says:

      08:47pm | 19/08/10

      You are spot on with that Brian. She thinks she has nothing to lose but real Aussies don’t take kindly to that behavior. She is showing now just how much she dislikes Abbott as a person. KRudd showed the same personal dislike for ABBOTT a week or so ago. I certainly don’t want a PM who acts like that.

    • ricko says:

      08:34pm | 19/08/10

      Gee things are getting deperate for LNP bloggers,another 3 years in opposition,finding it hard to swallow .Maybe if they put up a pallitable candidate,like say Malcomb, they wouldn’t be in this position.

    • Bob says:

      08:38pm | 19/08/10

      This from the woman who complained of Abbott’s negativity at the start of the campaign. Such hypocrisy. This lady together with Wayne Swann are the greatest spin doctors of our time. It was Labor who put in all their costings just 12 hours before the election in 2007. With the convenient treasury leaks that Swann investigated with prior leaks, it was a prudent move by Abbott to have a respected global accounting firm to cost their policies. The water buy back policy of Gillard is totally uncosted because they left it open with no end or amount. At the end of the day it was Costello/Howard who paid off the previous labor debt of $150 Billion and left us with a $25 Billion surplus and $60 Billion future fund. Thems the facts. I’ll take Abbott thank you. Oh, and Abbott is an economics graduate and a road scholar. Gillard cannot say that for economics.

    • Gregg says:

      09:33pm | 19/08/10

      I do not really know that the swinging voters who can be somewhat undecided right to the ballot box will be all that impressed with Julia’s final attack and the story will get around well enough.
      Even undecided, they’ll likely have that NBN figure swanning around their head not to mention the Swanning budgeting fiasco with the Mining Tax and Mines Rainbow pot of gold.
      Good chance I reckon a lot of swingers will well and truly swing one way a long long way.

    • Steve_of_Cornubia says:

      09:35pm | 19/08/10

      This Gillard woman, is she the same one who only yesterday complained that this election was too negative?

    • Aus needs a revolution says:

      10:34pm | 19/08/10

      I think that at the end of the day, Laurie Oaks summed up the election perfectly. It is being fought by political minnows.

      I think the real problem that we have in this country is that all political parties, no matter what they say, focus purely on retaining power at whatever the cost. There is no real vision for the future past the next election only promising what they think the people want.  I dont know what the solution is but it is a sad state of affairs at the moment.

      If I had a real choice, I wouldnt vote for any of them because I dont feel that any party out there has a true long reaching vision of the the ongoing running and development of the country

    • Anony says:

      11:15pm | 19/08/10

      Like many, we feel badly let down. The hope and many of those promises of 2007 quickly vanished, stripping bare a party that now seems to stand for little more than a desire for power for its own sake.

      Nothing better illustrates this than the South American-style coup that ended Rudd’s prime ministership. If ever there was a blatant admission by a party of its own failings, this was it. The polls may have shown the Australian public no longer liked their prime minister. But his removal offended many people’s sense of decency.

      It is not the right of a handful of party machine hacks to oust the elected leader of a Western democracy, particularly when he has not even completed a first term. That right belongs to the people.

    • Gerry Sinclair says:

      01:20am | 20/08/10

      Gillard is playing the gender card just like Obama played the race card, and in both cases the press in general do not how to handle it.

      Unless I missed it Abbott has never attacked Gillard personally, but you certainly cannot say the same for her or anyone else in the Labor party.

      Abbott’s so called negativity when analysed turns out to be calling attention the Governments record - that is not negativity, its simply stating the facts and realism, and that as the world almost certainly heads for a double dip recession is exactly what we need from our next Government reagrdless of what brand it is.
      Realism and lots of it.

    • fehowarth says:

      08:45am | 20/08/10

      When has Ms. Gillard played the gender card.  Give some examples

    • MarK says:

      11:55am | 20/08/10

      “When has Ms. Gillard played the gender card.  Give some examples “

      She always turns up with her boobs…..I mean really does she have to be so blatant? raspberry

    • fehowarth says:

      01:30pm | 20/08/10

      Mark.  What does Tony mean by his strutting walk and budgie smugglers.  Is he showing off his manhood.  At least Julia covers her womanhood up.

    • fehowarth says:

      07:45am | 20/08/10

      Coalition voters that yearn for the so-called golden Howard years be aware.  Mr. Abbott might be rebirthing Howard’s policies, he is not a Howard.  He was Howard’s enforcer and shit digger, nothing more.

    • Jolanda says:

      08:04am | 20/08/10

      Gillard is a puppet.  Her role is to do as she is told and say what she is told to say.  Labor is corrupt, years of covering up for those who abuse their power and who fail in their duty of care has meant that we have a system where the ordinary citizen has no rights and is not valued.  In order to protect the reputation of the Government Labor will happily just close complaints and allow those who are abusing their power to not only remain in their positions, but to be promoted to an even higher position so that hey can control issues to do with the complaints.  Get rid of Labor - they are corrupt and corruption does major damage to standards.

      Education – Keeping them Honest
      http://jolandachallita.typepad.com/

    • Youdy beaudy says:

      08:10am | 20/08/10

      So many experts write on here. All got the answers, but it all comes down to the stroke of a pencil tomorrow and which way will it go?. Well I have no idea, but I think of the two Leaders that Ms Gillard is the most competent.

      I remember the Howard Years and the smart arse Liberal Government. I couldn’t stand looking at their smug faces on the TV. What a lot of ugly people. Howard with his big smart Mug and Costello and of course Tony Abbott the"Shit Happens” Man. Now I have noticed that he hasn’t said “Shit Happens” during his weak go nowhere campaign. I have also noticed that this site is very pro Liberal which just shows lack of fairness.

      Apart from the amusement of reading the pro Abbott crap on here and having to look at his weirdo head each day, i wouldn’t trust him or his liberal cohorts, thieving bastards, with anything to do with the running of this country.

      So I hope Julia will win on Saturday as she is the best and most intelligent contender for the job, regardless of the negative comments about her, and has the best team behind her. With Abbott it’s the same old people that we booted out before. The Liberals have no new team, and no policies for the country to move forward, and if what Abbott is talking about will happen under him we will all just move back to the Howard Menzies era. This will definately be a big mistake.

    • fehowarth says:

      11:55am | 20/08/10

      His mentor being Santamaria, it will be the worse of the Menzies era.  I thought Santamaria had some good things to say, but I grew up.

    • fehowarth says:

      01:24pm | 20/08/10

      The man beds to go to bed.  A pommy that cannot identify a English accent.  The woman had to correct him, saying she was Colombian.  I am sure that people who live in the west of Sydney would nor have made the same mistake.

 

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