Here’s some of what the Prime Minister Julia Gillard told the Parliament on October 19 this year (you can read her whole speech starting on page 692 here):

Gillard's not pretending Afghanistan is a walk in the park. Picture: Gary Ramage

To ensure the new international strategy can be delivered, last December the United States committed to a military and civilian surge in Afghanistan. The elements of this surge are now reaching full strength. Once fully deployed, this will take coalition force numbers to roughly 140,000. US forces on the ground have tripled since early 2009. The total force now has the resources required to deliver a comprehensive international strategy focused on counterinsurgency and designed to deliver transition.

And:

Earlier this year we took over leadership of the Provincial Reconstruction Team in Uruzgan to spearhead our civilian efforts, and increased our civilian commitment to Afghanistan by 50 per cent.

And:

Over the past 12 months the government has announced more than $1.1 billion for additional force protection measures for Australian personnel. This includes upgraded body armour and rocket, artillery and mortar protection.

And:

The Afghan National Army reached its October 2010 growth objective of 134,000 ahead of schedule, and the Afghan National Police is also ahead of its October 2010 goal of 109,000. The Afghan National Army is becoming increasingly capable and supporting coalition operations more effectively. Nearly 85 per cent of the army is now fully partnered with ISAF forces for operations in the field. Afghan forces are now in the lead in Kabul.

And:

Our Mentoring Task Force is training the 4th Brigade of the Afghan national army. The 4th Brigade, as our commanders on the ground told me during my visit, is proving to be an increasingly professional force, fighting better and becoming more capable at conducting complex operations. The brigade’s recent efforts in successfully completing a series of resupply missions between Tarin Kot and Kandahar has demonstrated improving capability. Since late last year, they have moved from observing and participating, to planning and leading these activities. The brigade also recently provided security for parliamentary elections in the province.

And:

We should be realistic about the situation. Progress, even in security, is highly variable across the province. Any gains come off a low base. Any advances made are fragile. The challenges that face Uruzgan, and Afghanistan, are immense.

And the part that shocked overseas observers for its frankness:

Australia will not abandon Afghanistan but we must be very realistic about the future. Transition will take some years. We will be engaged through this decade at least.

There was really nothing in Gillard’s speech at the commencement of the Parliamentary debate on our commitment in Afghanistan that is significantly undermined by the views expressed by Kevin Rudd and Ric Smith in the latest round of Wikileaks cables published this morning.

Those cables, in which Rudd is recorded as having said the Afghan war “scares the hell out of me” were likely an accurate assessment of the situation at the time. The “scared as hell” cable was October 2009, and other cables referred to were from the end of last year.  Gillard acknowledged in her speech, the Coalition efforts in Afghanistan were not properly resourced until 2009.

It’s tempting to slam the Government for hiding it’s true assessment of our mission in Afghanistan (before the parliamentary debate The Punch did that many times), but Gillard’s October speech diminished the impact of that charge.

I think we can all agree with Rudd, Afghanistan is as scary as hell, and now no-one is pretending otherwise.

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    • Macca says:

      11:07am | 10/12/10

      Like most of the WikiLeaks, this really doesn’t suprise me.

      A war against terrorist organisations in a country twice the size of Germany, with some of the most inhospitable terrain in the world, which has been occupied or at war almost continously for the past 30 years.

      Of course it’s scary. It’s war.

      I would not begrudge Gillard or Rudd for their opinions here. Of course our leaders say different things in public than they do in private. We all do. And whilst the ALP of the past 3 years has had a habit of managing the 24 hour news cycle, this is not a situation worthy of universal condemnation

    • acotrel says:

      08:12am | 11/12/10

      Rudd’s ‘secret’ opinion only reflected my own, and what’s probably the opinion of the majority of Australians.  We shouldn’t be in Afghanistan, but we have to be there!

    • Robert Smissen, rural SA, God's own country says:

      05:01pm | 11/12/10

      Nobody has ever conquered Afghanistan, so why should this be different

    • michael j says:

      11:16am | 10/12/10

      everyone should get out and leave them alone
      if we are only there to support a unpopular gov
      they will sort their own probs out

    • nosthow says:

      11:50am | 10/12/10

      The big question is how do we get out of the place Tors ?

    • Rosie says:

      12:04pm | 10/12/10

      All that we have heard, ( Wikileaks ) is proving that the Gillard caucus is not in communication with each other. The right hand definitely has no bloody idea what the left hand is doing.

      Because this govt is not just a “dithery” but also a confused one, it is not just the Foreign minister Rudd that should be “scared as hell.” We all all should be because how can the Gillard Govt leave our soldiers in Afghanistan to fight a war that is not properly resourced?????????

      With this negative attitude we should stop kowtowing to the US and pull out of there. It is getting from bad to worse every single day!

    • iansand says:

      12:30pm | 10/12/10

      The only time a foreign power has had any success in Afghanistan was the 3rd Afghan War in 1919.  The English had airpower, and the Afghanis had no way of countering this new development in warfare.  No one had given them Stinger missiles at this stage.

      Of course the Mughals passed through Afghanistan on the way to Delhi, but they left by themselves for greener pastures so they were not actually defeated

    • Billy says:

      05:29pm | 10/12/10

      iansand - I think you mean the British had airpower, and the Afghanis had no way of countering.  Why do you say English when you really mean British?

    • Scot says:

      12:27pm | 11/12/10

      iansand. You have also forgotten Alexander the Great. He left his mark on this country that still can be seen today. Please also note that Pakistan was India in thsoe days and now it is not. Hence the issues with the porous border and lack of respect for even their own kind. They are killing their own in the South. In the Nth they are not.

    • iansand says:

      06:38pm | 11/12/10

      Billy - Quite right.  There were probably some Scots regiments there.  There usually were.  They and the Pushtuns got on as well as any two groups dedicated to killing each other can.

      Scot - Any idea just how long Macedonian rule lasted in Afghanistan?  They, like most people, passed through.  Seleucus briefly regained control in ~305BCE, then lost it again.  He came to a deal with Chandragupta and picked up a few elephants, which he used in the Western bit of his share of the carveup.

    • Against the Man says:

      12:30pm | 10/12/10

      Okay, I’ll give Gillard the benefit of the doubt. But if she fails what price will she pay?

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      12:33pm | 10/12/10

      More $$ spent on operational deployment in Afghanistan means less $$ spent on defence equipment procurement (not that Department of Defence has a crash hot record in military equipment procurements and contracts). Prolonged deployment to Afghanistan actually degrades the core mission of the Australian Defence Force- the defence of Australia.

    • MudCrab says:

      02:09pm | 10/12/10

      To misquote American Civil War General, Robert E Lee, “War is meant to be scary, least we become too fond of it”

      So Rudd said he found the entire campain scary in a private conversation? Wow. Profound.

      Grud Wikileaks is overrated

    • Daryl Saal says:

      10:15pm | 10/12/10

      It might actually be cheaper to offer resettlement to all who want it as long as they agree to follow the customs and obey the laws of their new country. Then leave the hard line medieval tribal remainder to live out their lives in squalor.

    • Scot says:

      12:33pm | 11/12/10

      Daryl Saal. So does that mean that no one will be given the opportunity you state. So the men that are paying their way to get to Indonesia as economic refugees to come to Australia on the open door policy of the Rudd-Gillard Labor government are the only terrorists and drug farmers we should let into our country then?

    • Robin says:

      06:28am | 12/12/10

      It seem everyone is still focusing on the wrong hand. We are forcing Islamic people to like us down the barrel of a gun. With Pakistan armed with nukes, I think this approach is just dumb, dumber and arrogantly American

    • Billy says:

      09:17am | 12/12/10

      iansand - The point is that regardless of who was there in Afghanistan, English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh Regiments it was the ‘British Army’ since the Act of Union 1707.  There has not been an English Army, Scottish Army, Welsh Army,  or Irish Army since the Act of Union.  It is like splitting up the Australian Army and saying “Queensland Army”, “New South Wales Army” etc.  You’d never do that would you?

    • iansand says:

      04:24pm | 12/12/10

      I might, after I got a life.  A quest I also recommend for you.

 

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