When I was 19, I started mapping out my career plans. I was in my second year of university when I decided to volunteer as an unpaid intern for two full days per week at a magazine publishing house. My baby-boomer father never understood how I could do it for two years without pay (while working weekends in retail, where yes, I dealt with the worst customers imaginable and cleaned up kid vomit from the floor of my store), but I had faith in the fact that it would one day pay off.

Headed for a spell in various kitchens and mine shafts.

One day was not this week, because this week, Employment Minister Mark Arbib is urging Gen Y to readjust their ideas about work and employment, stop the “snobbery” associated with certain means of work, and take whatever jobs they could get. For someone whose attitude to work has more to do with paying university fees and funding my internet bill than snobbery and a class act on the career ladder, Senator Arbib’s comments did not go down too well. And I was not the only one to notice.

Generation Y has long bore the brunt of the attention-seeking, lazy, power-hungry generation that refused to put in the hard yards for their future, something which the Senator might have capitalised on in his address to a young labor conference last week. What he failed to recognise is the fact that Generation Y has suffered long enough as a result of this stereotype, and as such, was ditching conventional forms and methods of work in favour of something that works for them.

A peek inside my Facebook and Twitter inbox could indicate as to how, and why. Like a typical generation Y’er, I resorted to these methods of social networking for my research into this column. There, I was not surprised to find a high level of disagreement and discontentment among my peers as a result of Senator Arbib’s comments, for various reasons.

Jade had left her job in PR because of a supervisor who relied on bullying, unethical professional practice and slave-labour-like working conditions. Her decision had more to do with taking a moral high ground than being choosy.

Alice returned from a post-university stint overseas to find that no firm would hire her, even for the lowest of jobs on the ladder, because of her recent travel history. Her lack of employment prospects were resultant from generation Y’s biggest nemesis – the stereotype.

And Dan couldn’t get a job anywhere because he didn’t have “the experience”, and was never given the opportunity to actually earn it. Another Gen Y fave, and the Achilles heel of every unemployed youth.

These experiences led me to wonder about Senator Arbib’s level of understanding when it comes to our current reality. As a leader of our society, would he have preferred the youth of today lose their back-bone in the workplace, resort to putting work ahead of their happiness, or simply lying around feeling sorry for themselves because they had no experience? I doubt it, which is why it is imperative to recognise the fact that generation Y has long decided to do things their own way, even if it means taking a little longer to get to the finish line.

After all, Generation Y has made a success of the tools they have grown up with – the internet, blogs and social networking sites to name a few. Businesses can hone in on a fan base on Facebook with targeted promotions and advertising, aspiring creatives can showcase their work on a multitude of blogging platforms, and sites like MySpace and YouTube are the tools to generate fandom for that struggling musician out to make it big.

As such, the reality for generation Y is peppered with the fact that we stopped needing traditional forms of employment a hell of a long time ago. In actual fact, we’re happy to flit from mundane job to menial task as often as we wish while we work on establishing our dream career. You call that snobbery, we call it tactic. One that is tailored to our lifestyles, because we’ve been raised to believe that we live to work, not work to live.

Besides, after witnessing our parents work hard at life with not much to show for it but old age, do you blame us? This lifestyle is a mid-life crisis prevention scheme, and for us it works pretty well. Especially if you consider the difficulties we actually encounter when working, looking for work, or training for it.

Generation Y has been brought up to believe that we live in a world of no boundaries. A world where we can achieve everything that we put our mind to, and where we can face up to our demons if it means making our dreams come true.  We remind ourselves that it is not our fault we’re drowning in a global financial crisis, and maybe this is where our ‘selfish’ attitudes come in.

But when you go for a coffee, or get your car parked at the Valet, or buy your lottery ticket at the newsagent, or open your front door to a door-to-door marketing rep, who exactly is servicing you? In many a case, it’s a struggling Gen Y’er who has taken to a mundane task while they plan for their big time. And there’s no snobbery in that at all.

But just in case you don’t get me, tune into The Simpsons. Behind the counter at the Krusty Burger, the Video Store, the Cinema Ticket Stand, Dunkin Doughnuts, and the Bowlarama Bowling Alley, you’re likely to find the pimply faced teenager, voice almost breaking and still teetering on the edge of inexperienced junior working in yet another dead-end job.

You know, that typical Gen Y’er, and one whose snobbery know-how has fallen a little too short in the face of the responsibility on his shoulders – caught between the generation of his parents who did it all, and the generation after him who was all about daring to dream, while he tried to find his space in the middle.

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    • John says:

      09:57am | 28/07/09

      Amen

    • iansand says:

      10:01am | 28/07/09

      So you think Senator Arbib was correct?

    • YT says:

      10:10am | 28/07/09

      Do you think that there are no “Jades” in earlier generations?  Sorry, but some of us stuck it out UNTIL WE HAD ANOTHER JOB to go to. No job’s perfect, every job has personality conflicts and you’ll be hard pressed to find any one with more than a year or two of work who hasn’t been bullied at work.

      Alice wanted her cake and to eat it too, huh?  So if you were a boss, would you employ someone who had recent work experience and study behind them, or someone who had been sunning their bee-hind in Ibiza?  Yep, it’s an employer’s market, and they have to choose the best fit.

      Poor Dan.  Didn’t do what you did and get the experience through volunteer work - commercial or community.  He just whinged about it.  That’s the problem with Gen Y.  Some how the world owes too many of them the opportunity.

      Many Gen X entered the workforce after the last recession, so we know how hard jobs are to come by in difficult times.  Baby Boomers faced the lottery of Vietnam - and older generations faced the prospect of Korea or even WWII.

      I won’t even pretend that Gen X has known the hardships of war or a national depression.  But, I guess that’s the difference between gens X and Y.  Gen X knows when we have the blessings of paid work, education, a roof over our heads and people to share the ups and downs with.

      Apparently you’re in your prime - enjoy it.

    • SD says:

      10:12am | 28/07/09

      What exactly is “Gen Y”?

      Depending on your source, it is usually defined as those individuals born between the years of around 1982 to 2000 (ABS).

      The premise of this grouping is that people of varying generations apparently think and act differently.

      Depending on the type of research of inferences being drawn - generally such groupings are far too broad to be useful and are as such, inherently flawed.

      It seems that the vast majority of generational research attempts to view samples of current behavioural and attitudinal makeup as unchanging constructs, without concern for temporality or the developmental aspects of a generational group.

      In other words, just because a certain group can be said to demonstrate salient attitudinal or behavioural characteristics at time A - this does not imply that this same group will show these same characteristics at time B.

      It is illogical inferences such as this which are responsible for generational stereotypes.

      Far more interesting than debating the makeup of these fantastical categories, a better question to ask is: why do so many people, among them professional researchers and politicians, insist on using these categories?

    • Liz says:

      10:40am | 28/07/09

      Every generation does it differently in different times,lets cut the criticism,try to understand the reasons and get on with it.

    • Jonathan says:

      10:43am | 28/07/09

      These generation spats are becomingly increasingly dull.
      But then as a gen-Xer I would think that, wouldn’t I?

    • Chris says:

      12:09pm | 28/07/09

      Oh bunny, it’s just SO hard isn’t it.

      “Alice returned from a post-university stint overseas to find that no firm would hire her, even for the lowest of jobs on the ladder, because of her recent travel history. Her lack of employment prospects were resultant from generation Y’s biggest nemesis – the stereotype.”

      Ah, so it must be because she’s Gen Y. Surely it couldn’t be because she just wasn’t that great a candidate for the position? I mean she’s Gen Y! Gen Y are so driven! They should have just given her the job!

      “And Dan couldn’t get a job anywhere because he didn’t have “the experience”, and was never given the opportunity to actually earn it. Another Gen Y fave, and the Achilles heel of every unemployed youth.”

      Poor Dan, there’s just not enough avenues for people to gain experience in anything in this world. He sounds so opressed. Has anyone called Amnesty? The people of the world need to know about Dan, before it’s too late.

      By far though, the best bit about this piece is the claim that Gen Y seem to be the be the first generation to have to pay their dues and work a menial job before the world realises their genius. You know what, you’ve definitely sold me on what I suspected about Gen Y all along Sarah. Hit the nail right on the head.

      I just hope you’re not speaking for every Gen Y member, cause if it was me I certainly wouldn’t want to be lumped in with this stereotype.

    • watty says:

      12:25pm | 28/07/09

      The difference between Gen Y and others appears to be that Y brigade actually know of and pay attention to Mark Arbib..

    • Margaret Gray says:

      12:44pm | 28/07/09

      “a struggling Gen Y’er”

      BWAHAHAHA

      Sorry.  A mutually exclusive impossibility.

      Gen Y continues to bludge on the extended largesse of Mum & Dad through to old age with their overwhelmingly senseof entitlement eclipsed only by their OCD predilection for vacuous groupthink affirmation through the likes of (cough) Twitter and Facebook.

      Sadly Ms Ayoub confirms the worst we presume about her generation.

      As the world’s most materialistic and voracious onsumers, Generation Y EXPECTS to have a “dream” job - to fund that funky-cool-quirky lifestyle’; travel endlessly and extensively (when not working of course); meet the boy/girl of “my dreams” and enjoy wonderful sex forever; have HUGE numbers of friends FOR LIFE; be windswept and interesting to EVERYBODY, ALL THE TIME and save dolphins, African orphans all while striving to achieve carbon neutrality.

      Generation Y would achieve nothing without the HUGE leg-up given to them by their predecessors.  GenY have no plan.  No “tactic”.  They expect it will just ‘happen’ to them.  After all, they were TOLD it WOULD.

      Sadly, as they move through their twenties and beyond and realise the world indeed does not revolve around THEM and the disappointment at NOT HAVING ANYTHING I WANT bites, the level of depression amongst them will surely skyrocket.

    • Jonathan says:

      01:11pm | 28/07/09

      After glibly dismissing this rant as another generational bla-bla, I went back and re-read it.  You know, to be thorough.
      And I agree with commenter iansand:  you agree with Senator Arbib! 
      I quote: “What I do believe is that job-seekers need to look for their dream jobs and, while they’re doing that, realise that in the current climate that may take some time, and there are often other options.” -Senator Arbib.
      I think what you are reacting to with regards to GenY “snobbery” about employment is the general feeling of the community, as expressed in the comments sections of newspapers and online forums, as quoted in the link you posted to news.com.au in the article.  It’s the media, and commentators such as yourself, that are perpetuating the “job snob” debate.  These arguments are like herpes: if you ignore them they go away.  No, wait, bad analogy.

      Enough of this Generalisation X/Y/boomer malarky.

    • JH says:

      01:34pm | 28/07/09

      Margaret,

      As a member of gen Y I have to take offence to your comment. I’ve finished a bachelor degree and currently completing an MBA (I’ve paid for both) Have found professional work and earn over 100k a year. I’m currently exploring investment opportunities to invest in my future and that of any children I may have. And while my parents provided me with love and support they didn’t provide me with a financial ‘leg up’ at any stage. There are many Gen Y’s out there who are undertaking positive action not just in their own lives but with-in the community.

      While I admit that Gen Y has it’s issues (as has every generation) please don’t tar us all with the same brush. It is akin to making sweeping generalisations about ‘all women’ or ‘all old people’.

      Cheers,
      JH

    • bellastarky says:

      02:21pm | 28/07/09

      I fully believed what mark arbib said when i finished uni last year. I was convinced by the media and people around me that any job i could find would have to do because i wouldnt get any second chances. So I took the first job which came along and the abusive, letcherous incompetant boss who hire me (and three other blonde girls) for my looks and paid me barely over minimum wage because i thought there was nothing else out there.

      I got fed up six months later and now have a great job with a lovely manager which pays far more and actually makes me happy. Convincing young people to take the first shitty job that comes along is a terrible idea. I did and regretted it completely.

      (BTW I’m not talking about craptastic retail and hospitality jobs. Everyone should have had a couple of those in thier life time. I did and it makes me so much more greatful for 9-5 hours, annual leave, sick pay and a regular salary)

    • Stuart says:

      02:23pm | 28/07/09

      I think the coments from jaded generations before us, show the importance of a vibrante, young and ambious. What is the problem with that. Too long Australia has lagged along following each other, doing the same thing. This stupid “you have got it better ” discussion from those who his is something that young children in the playground resort to. I’m GEN Y. I haven’t lived with my parents since I was 18. Post graduate educated. I love to travel, as did my parents. I have my hobbies, as do my parents. Please don’t tell me that that makes my parents lazy and over indulged? How quick they are to forget those who dropped out of society inthe 60’s for upwards of a decade or in my Uncle’s case for life. (And good on him for doing that!!)

      I too will however give my children all the help they will need in life just as mine have done and theirs before them. Should anyone call them over indulged and spoilt they will have to deal with me.

      For the likes of Margaret, either contribute and use your wisdom from your years or butt out and let those who want to contribute effectively to the development of Australia.

    • Ben from Perth says:

      02:29pm | 28/07/09

      Damn you Sarah, I enjoyed Peter Rehul in today’s Fin!

      “The little buggers are dumb!”

    • Jonathan says:

      02:33pm | 28/07/09

      Hi Stuart.
      Re-read your post and see if it makes sense to you.  Don’t let your anger get in the way of a cohesive argument.

    • Liv says:

      03:06pm | 28/07/09

      Margaret Gray, your bitterness is absolutely repulsive. What you’ve outlined in your oh so pithy description is actually youth. And oh my goodness, guess what? You were young once too. You once thought the world revolved around you as well. You once thought you were fabulously interesting as well. You probably still do. You once thought you could save the dolphins and the Africans and write the book that would change the world and look sharp doing it (perhaps in a kaftan, smoking pot and singing to Bob Dylan, if you’ll permit me a generation stereotype as you seem so adept at doing yourself).

      All generations are given a leg up by their predecessors. All generations have unique societal and historical issues and events that define them. All generations have idiosyncrasies and flaws.

      It just so happens that Generation Y has come of age at a time when news is round the clock and sensationalism has replaced the facts. There has to be something on Today Tonight, something to fill column inches, and the great Generation debate (or bashing, either one) is a favourite.

      Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to save the sea lions. Dolphins are so last year.

    • Drax says:

      04:04pm | 28/07/09

      Excellent piece, Sarah.

      So many comments here have missed the point of this article.  In today’s climate, it’s difficult to find even the most menial of jobs to support one’s self during the course of the pursuit of their dream career because the employers for mundane jobs may take a look at your resume and think you’re too overqualified for the position (who the hell knows why? a decent university education should signal sharp communication skills), but employers for the “dream career” simply think you’re too inexperienced, so the unemployed Generation Y’er is stuck in the middle of an economy based on cynicism.

      Plus, even if a Gen Y job applicant is lucky enough to make it to the interview phase, they’ve pretty much wasted their time and money because the company has secretly selected their successful nominee for the position anyway - the advertising for the position and the interview process are just ceremonial processes for the HR departments because of the legalities involved with positional vacancies.

      If anything, its employers in general who are too damn picky as job availabilities drastically plummet, not the Gen Y’ers.

    • RJB says:

      04:18pm | 28/07/09

      I well remember a phone call i received from a Gen Y, in response to a career opportunity (area sales supervisor) I had placed in a target specific newspaper. I accepted the call and the caller said (quote).” Me bruver reckons he saw youse had a job going in the local rag and I’m ringing up to see what i have to do and stuff”
      I hope this fellow fared well in the job market and was not as dismissive of a start anywhere as he obviously was about his education.

    • Jonathan says:

      04:45pm | 28/07/09

      Hey Drax,
      your comments regarding employers overlooking genY’s for being overqualified, or recruiting internally after a PR recruitment scame are not genY specific.  Happens to everyone, regardless of age.

      This whole thing has become an us-versus-them load of wank, based entirely on birth date.  Grouping all genY’s or X’s or whatever into these ridiculous homogenised easily-labelled groups makes about as much sense as astrology.  And just like astrology, if you place enough faith in what you hear it’ll eventually come true.

      Surely you people are smarter than that.

    • Y says:

      05:04pm | 28/07/09

      Oh how my heart goes out to poor little Margaret Gray.
      A much deprived, lonely and aimless youth she must have endured.

      The gift that Gen Y’ers bring to this world is the very thing you seem to sledge and prematurely palm off as a selfish, immature and self-centred state of being . Gen Y does not EXPECT to have a ‘dream’ job - they simply have the courage and persistence to fight for it. Gen Y does not EXPECT to meet the boy’girl of their ‘dreams’ - they simply have enough respect for themselves not to settle for the ‘whatever I can get’ mentality that generations before them have been taught to believe was a case of humility.

      For far too long, society has been happy to preach and praise mediocrity as the benchmark for success. Well, thank the Lord for the new generation that just won’t accept it anymore. 

      Besides, what is so wrong in believing we can have a huge number of friends, ‘FOR LIFE’ even? Does that not meet the benchmark of past generations that believe relationships should be finite - ‘be careful now, we wouldn’t want a marriage to last for any longer than 8 -10 years now would we? Because THAT’s how long we are allowed to EXPECT relationships to last”.
      The funny thing is that Gen Y’ers also don’t EXPECT to save the dolphins and African orphans while striving to achieve carbon neutrality. They are actively playing their part in doing just that because they have a vision and responsibility to themselves and those that will come after them, far greater than we all give them merit for.

      if there is one thing i would agree with you - it is precisely that GEN Y would achieve nothing without the HUGE leg-up given to them by their predecessors. They have seen further than most because they have stood on the shoulders of those before them and they have learnt not to accept the pitiful state of mediocrity that is so carelessly and dangerously enthroned as king. Gen Y has a plan - far more intricate than you can ever imagine Ms Gray. It’s called Excellence!!

      Sadly, we see that Gen Y are MORE in tune with the need of the ‘other’, rather than the ‘self’ - hence the expectation of lasting relationships and it is fact past generations that befall the pity of self-contempt and depression due to the fact that suddenly they have woken up quite late in life to the reality that they haven’t acheived their full potential because they did not dare to DREAM.

      This unfortunately is the only struggle Gen Y is dealing with. This… and the self-conceived, gramatically incorrect language used to state a point with no grounds. For all Gen Y’ers know that what you meant to say was “mutually exclusive possibility” rather than “mutually exclusive impossibility”.

      Or perhaps there is some sense in you after all wink

    • Nick says:

      08:00pm | 28/07/09

      Ageism ftl.

    • Laurie says:

      08:16pm | 28/07/09

      Oh, Margaret.  You are more to be pitied than despised, you poor little thing. Did your marriage break up? Do your friends not call you? Do you hate your job? Oh dear, oh dear. I’m sorry life has been so disappointing for you.

      I’ve lived and worked in four countries, done volunteer conservation work in two, completed two degrees (paid for by me) and had more retail jobs than you can poke a stick at. I’ve just settled down with my adorable partner and into a 70K a year job (I just started in Feb). Shockingly, I didn’t even ask mummy and daddy to make a call on my behalf. I had to interview! Turns out, I was the best candidate. What!

      So sorry things didn’t work out for you!

    • Lucia says:

      08:43pm | 28/07/09

      Right on Y!

    • BPobjie says:

      09:28pm | 28/07/09

      “In actual fact, we’re happy to flit from mundane job to menial task as often as we wish while we work on establishing our dream career. “

      That is exactly what Mark Arbib recommended. Possibly before writing an article criticising a politician, you should check to make sure you actually disagree with him. This piece actually reads as “How dare Mark Arbib make such outrageous statements that I fully endorse?”

      Also:

      “we’ve been raised to believe that we live to work, not work to live.”

      Pretty sure you meant the other way around.

    • DWest says:

      06:20am | 29/07/09

      Sarah good on you for saying what u think. Just read a acidic and funny article, that I think you will enjoy by Helen Razor over @abcunleashed (‘Gen Y job snobs’). Bring down them mouthy bling hogs baby boomers like Senator Habib!

    • Liz says:

      09:25am | 29/07/09

      Congratulations on your achievements.I have a daughter who works to put herself through Uni, has a social life,goes to the gym and is a caring,responsible smart example of your generation.You have many opportunities and take them.Don’t forget it was the previous generation who set you up for this and who fought for changes to make your opportunities possible particularly if you are female.

    • Andrew Birt says:

      05:37pm | 29/07/09

      I’m getting tired of the generation debate too, but it’s interesting to read through the comments this article has received and the shadenfraud espoused toward Gen-Y - a vitriloic - “Cop that you bastards”

      The sad part about all of this for me, is that people are literally revelling in the hardship of others, rather than banding together as a community.

      The GFC affects has affected all generations signifigantly; and there are those who’ve escaped it’s reach through a combination of years of hard work, or in many cases pure luck.

      Recently I found myself unemployed, after taking a job that promised the world and delivered very little. At present, financially i’m doing it a little tough and readjusting my lifestyle in accordance with dimished means. However, true hardship is an empty mind and empty spirit - not an empty pocket. I’ve decided to set-up my own company and provide young journalists a viable platform for delivering quality content. The motto go’s if the big papers won’t hire you - that’s not an excuse not building the experience and career you’re passionate about.

      To those revelling in the hardship of others - my advice would be to grow up, start tending to your own affairs and do something positive in your community. Oscar Wilde said it far more eloquently. “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

    • Gillian says:

      09:56pm | 30/07/09

      Interesting article Sarah. The phrase ‘Gen Y’ seems to trigger off a lot of emotions. In this article, Sarah demonstrated with the help of a few examples that Gen Y aren’t always lazy, have a sense of ‘self entitlement’ or expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. I applaud those who reach for the stars and try and try and achieve their dreams at any age.

      http://www.30isthenewblack.com

    • Celeste says:

      09:28pm | 02/02/10

      Like Dan I as a quallified Beauty therapist couldn’t get a job anywhere because he didn’t have “the experience”, and was never given the opportunity to actually earn it. Another Gen Y fave, Yet I have been working in a supermarket for the last six (6) years.

 

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