Good advice can be hard to find

Question: A young Man being an apprentice, and having served about half his time, hath a very fair opportunity to marry much to his advantage; would you advise such an one to take opportunity by the Fore top, or to let her go and say he cannot marry because he is an Apprentice? Gentlemen, Pray favour me with a speedy Answer.

Answer: Fair and Gently, Lad; marriage is no foot ball play . . . few men till some years above twenty know either how to govern themselves, choose a wife, or set a true value upon Money. Not one marriage in five hundred, made before twenty five, or thereabouts, proves happy ….

It’s been four centuries since this question and answer appeared in the 1695 edition of The Athenian Mercury, the first newspaper to publish an advice column in the English language. 

And while it’s unclear whether we should be comforted or troubled by the fact this advice still translates, it’s amazing to think that thanks to the eternal human experience, columns like this one continue to thrive today. But what makes a good one?

Back in the seventeenth century the Mercury’s founding editor John Dunton thought a successful column needed a variety of “voices” to make it work and he hired a team of experts to field the readers’ questions including a mathematician, a philosopher, a “man of religion” and several “fictional” voices.

Today’s advice columnists tend to be lone voices but there are some key things that separate the good from the bad.

Here’s the top five things a good advice column should do:

1. Actually answer your question: Cary Tennis of Salon.com, an online magazine from the United States, is a celebrated advice columnist whose journey to the job makes an interesting story in its own right. But his approach can take some getting used to. I’d only read one column before feeling ready to dismiss him forever because of his tendency to ramble and raise more questions than he answers. In this reply to a reader pining for an old, destructive relationship, he chose to dispense an unending list of existential and brooding rhetorical questions instead of practical advice. However he recently redeemed himself with this column about infidelity and it’s a really strong example of what makes his work worth reading.

2. Be funny but not moronic: Dan Katz excels at this and Saturdays just wouldn’t be the same without reading his Modern Manners column in the Good Weekend.  Even when tested by a particularly earnest set of questions Katz always manages good humour without resorting to insult or scorn and to be funny without being predictable. His subject matter is also testimony to the surprising fact that we still care about “rules” and behaviour and that questions of social etiquette didn’t stop being relevant in the 1950s.

3. Tackle taboos: Just “Ask Bossy” who has the ability and nerve to dive headfirst into a whole stack of skeletons in peoples closets with admirable clout and a large dose of common sense. And that’s no mean feat considering many of the questions she answers reveal skeletons and closets most of us would rather not face at all.  For example, some of her recent posts include, “My daughter’s boyfriend is well-hung…”, “Should I settle for the fat guy” and “Should I lower my standards to lose my virginity”.

Randy Cohen also writes about modern moral dilemmas in his weekly column “The Ethicist” for the New York Times however his questions tend to be based on notions of prinicple and the finer points of “right and wrong”. This column was written back in 2007 but its still an absolute must read for the dilemma it raises. The woman writes to Cohen that she’d been recently asked by a friend in her will to make copies of her diary and distribute to the people mentioned, not favourably, in its pages after her death.

4. Be honest: Sam de Brito should be mandatory reading for any woman looking for insight into the male mind because hisdaily column “All Men are Liars” provides a great bridge between the sexes. He’s funny, likeable and brutally honest and because he tends to be quite self-deprecating, it’s also a very refreshing read.

5. Share knowledge:  A strong “expert” advice column is hard to beat. Do you remember Dolly Doctor? There aren’t many women of my generation who didn’t grow up devouring the tiny column between the tender and impressionable ages of 14 right through to 18 and 19. Employment and jobs advice columns are also worth their weight in gold. Ask Kate over at CareerOne is a great example of this, scroll through the archives and find a well-constructed answer to almost every job related challenge you can think of.

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    • null says:

      11:09am | 06/09/10

      Lucy,  you have inadvertantly shown exactly why bloked don’t read Sam de Brito.  His column has a good premise and as such I along with a collection of other males I know have read multiple posts.  UNfortunately, the average blokes desire for a mens column turns to despair pretty quickly as Sam shows himself to be a female version of a bloke.  His self loathing, whining about how hard it is etc etc should only be viewed by women readers as a guide to how blokes think women want them to think.  Not how they actually think. If you want to see what they actually think watch the Man Show on Comedy or Thursday Night Live on channel 1 (My wife assures me she understands me a lot better after becoming a regular viewer.

    • bec says:

      08:28am | 04/09/10

      Samantha Brett entirely confounds me. On the one hand, she has never quoted a single “friend” who has sounded remotely nice. The men are arseholes, and the women are vapid and lacking in insight. On the other, what kind of friend publishes these stories told to her presumably in confidence?

      I’m of the opinion that she and her horrible-sounding friends of the male and female persuasion deserve each other and their miserable lives. It pains me that people like her, who don’t even give off the impression of being capable of filling out a centrelink form, get paid to write.

    • Name changed to protect the guilty. says:

      06:50pm | 04/09/10

      Yowwie Bec, what did she every do to you? smile Anyhow her nice friends are probably too boring to write about, though I feel quite confident she could tackle a Centrelink form. Anyhow I wrote a letter to a well known SMH columnist once and she published the lot as her column without a beg pardon, please or thank you. It must be a slog.

      You’ve given me the incentive to read some of Samantha’s work, or have I just read it? wink

    • Gabercro says:

      08:54pm | 03/09/10

      I think Bossy is a moronic twit! Does anyone really believe the bulk of those letters sent in a real?

    • James says:

      05:03pm | 03/09/10

      I always found Abbie’s Heartbalm to be the pick of the bunch.

    • jkyc says:

      02:52pm | 03/09/10

      Between ‘Ask Bossy’ and AMAL, I’ve got each day of the working week covered. Bossy in particular is an essential part of my morning coffee break. Absolute gold! Highly recommend her.

      @ Macca re: Samantha Brett. Rule 6. Do not be a narcissist.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      12:56pm | 03/09/10

      Not much of fan of advice columns either - there are experts/professionals which I think make a better port of call for advice/counseling than an agony aunt.

    • eamo says:

      12:42pm | 03/09/10

      you did the cartoon?

    • Reg says:

      11:03am | 03/09/10

      I am turned off by most of these columns because of their obvious need to ramble and to provide a balanced outlook. The young man in the Athenian example has a choice.” Fair and Gently Lad; Marry her for her money and live comfortably, or choose the sodden crows-nest with it’s promise of adventure and an early demise. Take your pick.”

    • Warren T says:

      09:03am | 03/09/10

      Savage Love, by Dan Savage and available through http://www.avclub.com (and many other place) is my personal fave advice writer.

      Funny, bold, interesting and sometimes to the point. He gives good sex-positive advice.

    • Macca says:

      08:29am | 03/09/10

      I quite like De Brito, in his own knobish kind of way. Never read Ask Bossy and starting to think I’ve missed out on Months of Cringe-worthy entertainment.
      Sam Brett takes the cake for being the worst advice Column in Australia

    • ScienceGeek says:

      07:57am | 06/09/10

      I’ve eased back on reading Ask Bossy.  Although Kate de Brito’s advice is excellent (yes, they’re siblings, apparently), the same really can’t be said for the comments section.  The questions have a habit of bringing out the trolls, and unfortunately, the moderation is sometimes not nearly as good as it should be.

    • Eric says:

      05:51am | 03/09/10

      I don’t think very highly of Sam de Brito, considering him a bit of a fawner on feminists. But this column has changed my mind slightly: http://bit.ly/atSUJA

      Maybe he’s starting to see the light.

    • Eric says:

      03:42pm | 04/09/10

      Actually I was having a dig at Sam de Brito, who is not a chick.

      But Helen managed to have a go at me, which at least is consistent.

    • Helen says:

      05:26pm | 03/09/10

      Wow, what a shock.  A column about advice columns and Eric still manages to have a dig at the chicks.  At least you’re consistent.

 

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