The Greco-Roman wrestling is not widely remembered as one of the high points of the Sydney Olympics.

Go you good thing! Get in there! Aussie Aussie Aussie! Nah mate it's your shout I went last time get me two again though legeeend (etc)

It gets squeezed out by a few other things, like Cathy Freeman winning gold in the 400m, Jane Saville breaking down upon her disqualification just metres from the finish line in the walking, the women’s water polo team robbing the Yanks on the siren, the swimmers winning pretty much everything, their sweetest victory against the cocky American men’s relay team.

Golden moments all. But it was at the Greco Roman wrestling – that gladiatorial contest where blokes called Vitek and Krysto try to give each other wedgies - where I witnessed an Olympic moment so golden it almost made me weep tears of joy at being lucky enough to have been born in this absurd and excellent little country of ours.

It didn’t involve Australia winning gold. It involved a couple of rolled-gold Australian bogans who, despite being unemployed and possibly unemployable, had done what they regarded as their national duty in buying the cheapest tickets on offer at the Games - $14 bleacher seats for the wrestling at the Exhibition Centre – and were sitting way up the back and cheering their hearts out for Australia.

They had painted their faces green and gold. They had Australian flags draped around their necks. They were drinking a lot of beer. And they said that they couldn’t care less that, on the day they were there at Darling Harbour, there wasn’t a single, solitary Australian competing in the wrestling at all, and continued to scream “AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIEEEEEE” for three hours as men with moustaches from Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan took to the mat and grabbed each other on the arse.

Aside from demonstrating our natural genius for self-deprecation, the inspired conduct of these two yobbos showed how Australians can whip themselves into a state of hysterical nationalistic fervour over anything to do with sport.

There was another pointer from the Sydney Games – the way in which we embraced Tatiana Gregorieva, a spectacular-looking chick from the outer suburbs of Vladivostok who had been living here for all of five minutes, and hailed her as Our Tatiana, Aussie Tatiana, cheering her on as she showed that – for too bloody long quite frankly – this plucky little nation of ours had been an unrecognised global powerhouse in, er, women’s pole vault.

Proving that the best insight on a nation’s character often comes from outsiders, a great Irish mate of mine in Sydney, Punch colleague Paul Colgan, says he always marvels at how phrases such as “first Tuesday in November” and “last Saturday in September” and even the mention of both Boxing Day and New Year’s Day are immediately recognised by almost every Australian for their promise of unbridled sporting joy.

This is the pathology which Sports Minister Kate Ellis is grappling with as she negotiates her way through the Crawford Report on sports funding, released yesterday, as part of the continuing national conversation about the role of sport and funding of sport in Australia.

There has been a pre-emptive fear campaign coming from some sports ahead of the report’s release saying that archery/hockey/darts/lacrosse/curling plays such an underrated but important role in our collective psyche that any reduction in government funding would destroy the fabric of the nation.

The tone of this campaign has exposed another curious thing about Australia. We can often lack the ability for honest self-analysis. You hear people all the time in business talk sagely about how corruption and the greasing of hands is “accepted as the norm” in Asia, blissfully ignoring everything from the Wollongong Council inquiry to Brian Burke to the Queensland CJC to Nathan Rees’ declaration only on Saturday that he’s banning developer donations to eliminate any suggestion that property moguls are buying access to government. In the same way, Australians talk disapprovingly about how a nation such as China is apparently “buying” gold medals by creating super-athletes with its state-sponsored programs, in much the same way that, during the Cold War, every Eastern European team was seen as the unfair beneficiary of government largesse.

The reality is that – since the apparent horror that was Montreal in 1976 where we failed to win a single gold medal – Australia has put Cuba to shame in the area of state-sponsored sport.

And people such as the AOC’s John Coates, who had a bit of a sook upon the release of the report yesterday, insist they’re not arguing taxpayers underwrite the lesser sports in perpetuity, while arguing for pretty much exactly that.

Surely it is about time we had a national discussion about the extent to which we will subsidy sports which hardly anybody plays? Or whether, in a brazen quest for gold, it is wise and fair to channel public money into fringe sports (which are often only played by individuals not teams) to bump up the medal tally on a short-term basis? Are we a better nation because Michael Diamond is good at shooting things? In this coastal nation of mad swimmers and beach nuts, do we have to be number one in the world in hockey?

And why are the unsung volunteers who help run our mass community sports such as rugby league, soccer and AFL destined to remain unsung, unrecognised and unsupported by government - is it simply because we can’t win gold medals for volunteering?

Those notoriously parsimonious right-wing folk at the Institute of Public Affairs – who essentially don’t think public money should ever be spent on anything – did some interesting modelling after the Sydney Olympics which calculated that every single medal we won (that’s gold, silver and bronze) had cost taxpayers about $3 million a pop.

In a provocative think piece last month, IPA member Chris Berg cut to the chase with this line:

“Most people care about volleyball for only 10 minutes every four years - and even then only if the sport rises above the din of other Olympic events. Can anybody name an Australian volleyball player?”

The opposite argument is being put with maximum vigour by the Federal Opposition, which has seized on the Crawford Report to argue that the Rudd Government has jeopardised the very essence of our being.

The report opens a debate about whether Australia should continue to strive for a top-five finish in the Olympic Games, or whether a top-ten finish is more realistic and feasible as a benchmark for our international performance, given our relative size against other nations.

Shadow sports minister Andrew Southcott is having none of it.

“This report is preparing us for a decline in our overall standing,” Southcott said.

The Opposition line seems to be a deliberate misreading of the report. The Minister has given a categorical on-the-record undertaking that funding for the so-called lesser sports will not be cut - even though many sporting groups say that without increases, they will be suffering cuts in real terms.

The issue isn’t really about cuts or increases. What the report is really trying to do – surely a welcome thing in this sports-mad country of ours – is to make a philosophical point as to how we measure our success, and to question whether we automatically greenlight every future request for funding increases to meet expectations which are so high as to be ludicrous.

Still, I don’t know why they went to all the trouble of getting David Crawford to write a fancy document asking that question.

Those two blokes at the Greco-Roman wrestling could have answered on behalf of the nation. As long as we don’t lose to the Poms again we will all be happy. If the Rudd Government can remember that it shouldn’t have any problems.

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    • Matt says:

      06:09am | 18/11/09

      When I saw John Coates throwing his toys out of the pram I realised the report must make a fair bit of sense.

    • Mike says:

      06:23am | 18/11/09

      David, I like this article. I don’t agree with a lot of it - but, I like it - because it actually feels quite balanced.

      I’ll be honest, I favour governemtn funding of elite sport. It’s pretty simply really, I figure that at around $15m a pop for a gold medal once every four years - well, that’s not so bad… I mean, that’s less that a dollar per person per medal. Can the nation not afford that?

      Also, what I want to know is why people are so anti funding elite sport, when we seem to have no qualms about funding the arts?

      The Australian Council for the Arts disheds out more than $158 million in funding for arts organisations and individual artists across the country every year.

      Now, if Crawford’s logic is to be applied to all govt funding, then arts funding should also be dished out according to what’s popular… And, let me tell you, I’d bet most of that $158 million every year would definitely not go to its current recipients.

      What I’m trying to get at, is this report is jumping up and down because the govt spends money on Olympic sports. But, the govt spends a lot of money on a lot of things. Whether it be the arts, the ABC, military bands, bike paths, road, bridges… - you name it - the govt spends money on it. And, in the context of all this govt money, the funding of Olympic sports is actually not that much.

    • alteria says:

      06:33am | 18/11/09

      Instead of buying an empty sense of national pride through ‘punching above our weight’ as an olympic nation we’d be better investing the money in better facilities to improve community health and fitness.
      We’re better off as a nation of active recreation participants. The most popular outdoor recreation pursuits are walking, walking the dog, running, jogging, visiting parks and cycling. Put the funds into these fhings and let those who are olympians rely on private sponsorship.

    • ABC says:

      07:26am | 18/11/09

      I think the fact that our most successful Olympian of recent times - Ian Thorpe - who did not receive any training at the hands of the federally funded AIS - is a good case study.  Are those who are actually winning the gold medals the one’s in receipt of substantial federal funding?  Is Olympic gold medal winning an individual achievement done on the back of sheer talent or perserverance or are champions able to be crafted by having money thrown at them.  It’s the old born or made argument I guess.

    • nigel says:

      07:32am | 18/11/09

      Some fair points Mike.

      Maybe Krudd could allocate a few dollars per person from his next stimulus handout? After all, what good is a new plasma without being able to watch Aussies winning something on it?

      Would still like to see elite sportspeople pay back to Govt when they start to reap mega-riches. Maybe a small percentage of endorsements above a certain threshhold. You know, 5% of Goulburn Valley Gold cheque back to rowing. Although I can’t see the likes of IMG going for it…

    • Dave says:

      07:35am | 18/11/09

      We fund a full Olympic Bobsled and Skeleton team for christ sake. Rather than giving a bunch nobodies money to compete in Calgary or Lake Placid wouldnt it be better spent getting a bunch of kids away from xbox and onto a footy field.

    • Darren says:

      07:53am | 18/11/09

      The worst decision Malcolm Fraser made (oops make that the 2nd worse - the new Federal Parliament Building takes the cake) was to start funding the AIS. since 1976 as we have thrown more and more money into making sure we can hop, skip and jump further and better and faster than anybody else participation rates in community sport have dropped - but Coates, Coles et al will always argue for more and more dollars - while pointing out that it does our nation proud that one of our blokes managed to stay upright while everybody else fell over allowing him to ‘win’ a gold medal.

    • SM says:

      07:57am | 18/11/09

      How can the link between funding levels and number of medals won be so direct?  I think I heard Mr Coates say last night that these proposed funding decreases will mean that Australia will slip to 8th place in terms of overall medals at the next Olympics.  How can he be that precise?

    • Chalkie says:

      08:12am | 18/11/09

      Elite sports can attract corporate sponsorship - so why don’t they?  Why is it only the individuals who are doing these deals?

      Also, I also represent my country - I teach for Australia.  For future generations.  My husband’s working for Australia in hospitals - for the benefit of us all. No gold medals for hospital staff - only abuse from alcohol and drug addled morons who got in a fight.  But we have HECS debts.  Lord knows we could do with some Uncle Toby’s sponsorship money on our salaries - but it ain’t going to happen. 

      So, why aren’t AIS places tied to HECS debts, too? I know elite sports people work hard and make sacrifices - but please, show me people in all other fields of employment who don’t work hard and make sacrifices, but without national hero-worship and bucket loads of breakfast cereal endorsement dollars.  And often, we don’t enjoy our jobs - but sports people do, generally.

      It’s time we stopped throwing money hand over fist at sport in Australia and started staffing and resourcing the public institutions we all use and need adequately.  After all, would you prefer Australia had a gold medal, or the doctors at Dubbo Base Hospital didn’t have to buy their bandages from the local vet because the area health service didn’t pay the medical provisions supplier?

    • iansand says:

      08:11am | 18/11/09

      Do what the Poms do.  Have a sports’ lottery.  If you want to contribute buy a ticket.  Although all ticket sales should be from an outlet 5 floors up with no lift. 

      It doesn’t really matter if we do not win a gazillion medals.  The Olympics exist so that, every four years, we get to see those strange sports we would never see without the Olymoics.  Or even to get some snowsports onto prime time TV. But forget the skating please - the synchronised swimming of the Winter Olympics.  We need crashin’ and burnin’ on the bobsled and luge.

    • Richard says:

      08:49am | 18/11/09

      This topic certainly brings out all those people who can’t sleep at night for the thought that someone somewhere might be having some fun.  If you don’t like sport, or you don’t like spending money on the national obsession of winning Olympic medals, can I suggest you firstly recognise that you are in a small minority, and secondly you simply turn away and do something else.  Don’t try and force your views on everyone else.  The report is a complete dud and will sink without trace, after a flurry of “debate”, which will be mainly dominated by people who go to art galleries on Grand Final day.  Any Government that countenances us falling down the ladder of Olympic medals, especially fishing behind the Poms, will be swiftly unelected.

    • Macca says:

      09:00am | 18/11/09

      Top Piece Penbo

      @nigel, Gold!

      @Chalkie, I think the difference between a HECS based university degree and the AIS is that many elite Sportspeople are lucky to have a 10 year career. After this, the succesful ones work for charities and campaign for funding against cancer, and the less succesful ones become plumbers and mothers.

      Sponsor em all I say, the theatre is crap and if it wasn’t for our success in sport, this’d be a bloody boring country

    • acker says:

      09:20am | 18/11/09

      Lets not forget the money that gets pumped into these sporting bureaucracies by grass roots club joining fees for kids $25 - $100 each

      Lets look at NSW swimming for example and some of the positions and wages that organizations bureaucracy swallows

      Office Staff

      Chief Executive Officer-
      Finance & Administration Manager -
      Membership Administrator -
      Marketing & Communications Co-ordinator -
      Events Coordinator -
      Development Officer -
      Development Officer -
      Development Officer -
      Development Officer -
      Speedo Shop Manager -

      http://www.nswswimming.com.au/

      I would presume Swimming NSW is also getting a share of the Federal Government funding as well.

      Is John Coates mainly worried about what happens to the sports, or the bureaucrat friends he has involved in the bureaucracy of the sports ?

    • Margaret Gray says:

      09:55am | 18/11/09

      “...If you don’t like sport, or you don’t like spending money on the national obsession of winning Olympic medals, can I suggest you firstly recognise that you are in a small minority, and secondly you simply turn away and do something else.  Don’t try and force your views on everyone else….”

      @Richard

      You see it’s my money that’s being spent and I demand better value for everyone not just a coterie of spoilt and coddled ‘athletes’ who will bore us stupid making breakfast cereal commercials after their ‘sporting career’ is finished.

      If buying Limpic medals makes you feel like a winner, then maybe you should stump up the extra cash.

    • Richard says:

      11:03am | 18/11/09

      @Margaret Gray
      The trouble with this argument is that there are many people who don’t like some aspects of what their taxes are spent on.  I can imagine there are a lot of people for example who are not the slightest bit interested in the opera, or ballet, or literature or the arts generally, and hate the thought of their taxes being spent on them.  But in a democracy, you just have to put up with the majority prevailing whether you like it or not.  Tough.  You just have to suck it up.

    • Chalkie says:

      11:18am | 18/11/09

      @Richard, I do not have a problem with people playing sport - in fact, I encourage it.  I don’t have any problem with people aspiring to be elite sports people - kinesthetic intelligence is genuine and those who have it in spades should use it to their full advantage.  I don’t have a problem with funding of SOME sport - that is, in such a way that it does not negate other public projects or resources, in ways that provide good returns (not on the moron athletes who get drunk and misbehave) and good role models. I do not think John Coates should have an open cheque from the Feds, nor should he whinge about his funding when children in remote settlements in our own country live in third world conditions.

      I do think that we as a country invest a lot for little return when it comes to elite sport.  What better purpose could we find for $3 million tax payer dollars (several times over)?  Why, as someone who has chosen an academic education rather than a sporting one, should I and the vast majority of Australians like me (including those who chose vocational educations), subsidise someone who may end up getting million dollar sponsorship agreements to sell fried chicken, or chocolate milk?  @Macca, some people who go to uni have short careers and go on to be unemployed, but their HECS debt is still there.  Some people who go to the AIS or similar will go on to earn big bucks and have a commentary career too.  Why shouldn’t they put something back into the system that helped their career?

    • Cafrl Palmer says:

      11:34am | 18/11/09

      $60Mil PA on a population of 22Mil that’s $2.73 per person. The poms are spending about the same if not more for 2012.

      If the administrative structures can be improved made more efficient then it should be done.

      As for Ian Thorp - yes he did receive federal & State training funding. He also came to training down south in a black Audi T.

      @ Richard says:12:03pm | 18/11/09
      Spot on comments

    • Margaret Gray says:

      11:38am | 18/11/09

      “...you just have to put up with the majority prevailing whether you like it or not…”

      Well done strawman.

      Most sporting clubs struggle for members and out of a country of 22 million people an AFL Grand Final struggles to beat Australian Idol for a viewing audience.

      Any evidence of this mythical majority of which you speak or just defaulting to a regurgitated ‘factoid’ you so desperately want to be true?

    • Darren says:

      11:42am | 18/11/09

      Great comment Richard - tyranny of the majority -

    • Stiffy says:

      12:11pm | 18/11/09

      As long as we can still beat New Zealand

    • Libbie Jones says:

      12:15pm | 18/11/09

      I think it is very easy to make an argument for both sides of the fence on this one.

      I love sport, nothing better than cheering on the Aussies whether it’s in the judo or the javelin, the swimming or the soccer. And I love it even more when we win. I don’t want to see us go backwards in the Games - I do take pride from it. It is part of our national identity.

      But the other side of that argument is should we fund people who want to further their archery and figure skating careers rather than putting the money into hospitals, schools or other important community infrastructure we all actually need and use?

      This is a complex debate and I agree with you David, one we should have sensibly. For Richard to say “suck it up” and “turn away and do something else” is a shame - we should be able to have this national conversation in a calm and reasoned way without silly and childish abuse.

      Perhaps John Coates should engage in the discussion rather than throwing a tantrum and saying he’s going to take his bat and ball and go home. From my understanding the Government hasn’t said it’s going to cut $1 at this stage. But if Coates keeps carrying on I think he’s probably hurting not helping his case.

      Good luck to Kate Ellis - this is not a decision I’d like to be making!

    • Steve of Cornubia says:

      01:11pm | 18/11/09

      We should spend every dollar we have on elite sport. That is, after we have properly funded health, education, defense, transport, law and order, the environment, employment ...........

    • Johno says:

      02:08pm | 18/11/09

      This is a spurious argument. With immigration and the mix of nationalities the way it is sport will be in decline and the need for funding will disappear. I’ve yet to see an Arab win the 100m freestyle swimming at the Lympics!

    • Matt says:

      02:15pm | 18/11/09

      Have to disagree with you Penbo - Greco-roman wrestling was (and still is) a big hit with a large slice of the Australian male community up round Darlinghurst/Potts Point/Surry Hills way - more money for it I say!

    • Jacko says:

      03:39pm | 18/11/09

      Forget the Olympics. Find me a legspinner!

    • Adam says:

      04:23pm | 18/11/09

      Nah bugger them. They can earn their keep like every other bastard.

    • Mr Pastry says:

      04:42pm | 18/11/09

      Taxes taken for Sport should be to encourage participation not Olympic TV lard arsing.  The Olympics gives very little other than a childish smugness “we beat them ner ner ner ner” , and some stars to promote unhealthy food products.  The Olympics were meant for amateurs originally and professionalism destroyed them - when Pierre de Coubertin resurrected the games it was for amateurs again but now we have now reached the end of the cycle again where most Olympians are professional and all the corruption and drugs cheating for the money that swills around has killed it again.  Good riddance to the career Olympic beaurocrats

    • acker says:

      06:30pm | 18/11/09

      I always had a bit of a theory that after the Sydney Olympics surge Australia would have a huge amount of excess bureaucratic noses eating out of the Australian taxpayers provided sporting dollar.

      eg Bureaucratic heads of Equestrian Australia , etc, etc

      I also have a theory that the aftermath of the Sydney decimated the talent pool of both sides of NSW politics (Labor & Liberal)

      Anyone who was big at promoting themselves and had a bit of nous, is probably overseas still enjoying the high-life of a cushy Olympics related job.

      I think all NSW politics has left is the dreg’s :(  .....on both sides of politics

      Honestly anyone who thinks Barry Farrell will win by anything other than default needs their head read wink

    • Julian Thomas says:

      08:50pm | 18/11/09

      bottom line is some sports are jealous of not being in the “games”, notice who was on the panel

    • TB says:

      03:17am | 19/11/09

      State-sponsored athletes are one of several things that have been killing the Olympics since the post-war period. At first it wasn’t so bad, as it merely started of as little more than Cold War chest-thumping, but then Malcolm Fraser decided to start that great boondoggle we call the Australian Institute of Sport. And now other countries are in on the act - the poms are flogging everybody at track cycling at the cost of millions of pounds, Gulf Arab states are practically buying long distance runners from Kenya, and let’s not forget all the foreign talent we’ve got training our mob which almost certainly cost us a pretty penny or two.

      To me the Olympic Games embody the adage “the road to hell is paved with good intentions.” de Coubertin resurrected the Olympics with the best of intentions - now they are nothing more than distant memories and all we are left with is a farcical display of some of the worst traits of the human race. I’ll shed no tears if the IOC decides to shut up shop - in fact, I’d fly to Lausanne myself and help them vacate their offices.

    • Dileep says:

      10:54am | 19/11/09

      I think this article; http://blogs.sunherald.com.au/whoweare/archives/2009/11/who_we_are_jock.html (and the ABS reports) contradicts the idea that the majority of Australians are interested in sport much more than cultural activities.  The percentage of people attending theatre and opera/musicals is actually higher than those attending horse-racing, league or cricket in a year.

    • Dave says:

      07:04pm | 19/11/09

      i dont think you got it right about hockey

      this is what it said

      Mr Crawford identified a group of sports that “carry the national ethos” and should be favoured in funding: “Swimming, tennis, cricket, cycling, the football codes, netball, golf, hockey, basketball, surfing and surf lifesaving.”

    • Sam Chowder says:

      07:58am | 20/11/09

      What about Pickleball?

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