Aussies consider themselves as pretty funny but sadly Australian TV comedy is no laughing matter.

Making the point again that they are, in fact, hollow men

Perhaps that’s not true if you are satisfied, wit-wise, with a boy smearing vegemite all over himself on a Hey Hey It’s Saturday – The Exhumation special.

Still, such antics may have a lowest rung place on the spectrum of disposable panel/skit/stunt shows that Aussie TV throws and sometimes throws up at us.

But where are the potential comedy classics, especially situation comedies, squarely situated Down Under?

Perhaps Chris Lilley offers hope with his new in-production series Angry Boys.

I didn’t find Lilley’s Summer Heights High all that funny but can appreciate his brilliant mimicry and acutely observed social settings.

Longer scripted comedy of this caliber is something Australians just don’t seem to be very good at.

Out of the last decade I could only nominate one show with a comparable cultural currency of critical and popular approval as Summer Heights High, Kath and Kim.

The dearth of enduringly good Aussie TV comedy is odd because our British/Irish heritage plugs us into arguably the world’s richest cultural store of humour.

Australians have kept pace and usually surpassed the Mother Country in things we inherited from them, such as most sports, occasional Ashes losses aside.

But in the field of funny the Brits leave us languishing.

Let’s look at two series, one Australian and one British, screened within months of each other on ABC TV and both satirizing ministerial politics.

Hollowmen was from the Working Dog team that in the 1990s produced the stinging satire on tabloid current affairs TV, Frontline.

There was one over-riding satirical point to Hollowmen; that spin triumphs over substance.

That the characters are indeed “hollow men” was demonstrated with almost crushing repetition and predictability every episode.

UK production The Thick of It also showed political expediency and self-interest invariably trumping principle but it did so in a more multi-dimensional lattice of shifting interests, rivalries, alliances, betrayals and reversals.

To take a minor, but telling point of credibility, every political player in The Thick of It swears voluminously and inventively.

But almost none habitually do in Hollowmen, except for the designated foul-mouthed party secretary.

To largely erase bad language from a behind-the-scenes look at power politics is like trying to cook fried rice without the rice.

The Thick of It is the much more worthy progeny of the grand patriarch of TV political parody, Yes Minister, where Jim Hacker became UK prime minister by campaigning against EU sausage regulations.

Just as Yes Minister sets the standard for long-running TV political parody, The Office is the benchmark for what funnyman Tony Martin calls the “ubiquitous genre” of “low-key workplace mockumentaries”.

The Office is an often excruciating study of maladjusted social meltdown, usually by David Brent, in mundane circumstances.

This humour of humiliation may not appeal to all but it appeals tremendously to local comedy makers going by the shows they produce.

ABC titles as Chandon Pictures, The Librarians, Very Small Business and you could throw in the made for pay TV show, later screened by the ABC,  Stupid, Stupid Man, all live in the shadow of The Office.

They usually have monomaniacal deluded central protagonists coming a cropper in the most embarrassing and awkward fashions.

None of them are interesting or people you ultimately want to sympathise with, as you did with David Brent.

The wonderful Christmas specials that rounded off The Office showed Brent coming to terms with his insecurities and shortcomings, which he previously disastrously overcompensated for.

To find something even remotely in the same artistic league, I’d nominate the innovative and edgy first-person-point-of-view ABC2 Britcom, Peep Show.

The two oddly matched misfit protagonists of Peep Show are subjected to a sustained forensic dissection of flawed personality that is usually entirely missing from the one-note character assemblages of Australian comedy.

As galling as this may be to a superior “they don’t do irony” Anglo sensibility, even the Americans are producing better situation comedy, admittedly out of mountains of dross.

Larry David’s Curb Your Enthusiasm is Seinfeld’s darker, and I’d say funnier, comedy-of-manners cousin, while 30 Rock can be an inspired soufflé of silliness.

The US version of The Office, after a shaky start, has successfully carved out a niche in the comedy of cringe terrain, albeit as a distinct entity, greatly toned down from the UK original.

Even given the smaller volume of production the Australian humour hit-rate is pretty paltry.

With the same faces appearing in nearly every other forgettable ABC TV comedy it raises the suspicion that what we see is a cosy clique clamped to a conduit of public money.

Australian TV can be very funny, try watching the hottest new teen spunk on Home and Away or Neighbours attempt to emote their way through the dramatically climatic scene.

Unfortunately Aussie programs are rarely that chortle-worthy on purpose.

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    • mandy says:

      07:33am | 08/10/09

      couldnt agree more david. i am so depressed hey hey is back on and even more depressed that so many people seem to love it. i dont understand why. i have pondered leaving the country and listing “hey hey reunion” as the reason for my leaving…

    • Liz says:

      07:53am | 08/10/09

      American comedy =yawn + earplugs, except the great masters of old who are now sadly all dead.
      British comedy still wins the vote when it’s funny,stylish and clever.So no Litttle Britian, no Kumars or any other tedious offerings.
      Maybe we’re just concentrating on making great movies, there are plenty of comedians around..some of them in Government!

    • hoofman says:

      08:10am | 08/10/09

      We share similar tastes, David. Hollowmen and The Librarians were particularly disappointing because they had the basis of something very funny and penetrative but failed to execute well. Hollowmen cried out for the touch of a John Clarke. Don’t know if there is anyone in Australia could have made The Librarians work. I don’t agree with you, Liz. The US program Curb Your Enthusiasm is as funny a show as I’ve seen on TV in recent years. It’s showing on the digital FTA channel Go! if you want to sample it.

    • Anthony says:

      08:19am | 08/10/09

      I think you hit the nail on the head with that “cosy clique”.

    • Esther says:

      08:22am | 08/10/09

      I am greatful that I am not the only one who thought that “a boy smearing vegemite all over himself” on national TV was not funny. To be honest I flicked over to whatever else was on the TV, when that segment was inflicted on us.

    • June says:

      08:23am | 08/10/09

      Black Books, the Vicar of Dibley, Fawlty Towers and early episodes of Absolutely Fabulous… brilliant script writing.  I might be wrong, but it seems the actors in all these shows may also have also written the screenplays.

    • kp says:

      08:26am | 08/10/09

      Well I love Hey Hey !! Keep it coming. There was nothing racist about what took place last night. I think the people who made a song and dance about it are the racist ones.

    • jed says:

      08:37am | 08/10/09

      what do you expect? unless you have an ‘in’ you’re not getting very far with the gatekeepers at the abc.

    • Ted says:

      08:37am | 08/10/09

      I’ve been living on a diet of British TV comedy for the last 15 years, courtesy tapes / DVDs sent by post, then Amazon.co.uk, now Bittorrent/iPlayer.
      It sounds insufferably pompous to say so, but it’s just a fact that most Australian comedy paled in comparison. I shrugged while others raved about Kath & Kim, Summer Heights, Hollowmen.
      Only We Can Be Heroes,  Shaun Micallef’s sketch show (NOT that sitcom about the lawyers) and Lano and Woodley were really international standard. The Chaser boys, especially in the CNNNN days, also had brilliant moments.
      I think that too many talented people have been coddled and rushed into producing mediocre work. No-one seems to have had a stern word: ‘‘guys, this needs about twenty more jokes and at least one character that’s not a boring cliche’‘.
      Meanwhile new talents were often unable to break in, or at least not without compromising a lot of what made them funny in the first place.
      Look at Tim Minchin - one of Australia’s best comedy exports of the last decade, who was completely and utterly ignored by the ABC (they knew about him when he was playing to 20-capacity rooms) until it was far too late to keep him here. He’s ruling London now, on the verge of cracking the US, and if through luck and skill he makes a brilliant TV series, it will be a British one.

    • Lucas says:

      09:10am | 08/10/09

      One question I would like to ask is - Why does Australian TV still try to make Sketch comedy? Double Take on 7 is just a carbon copy of Comedy inc. They are amazingly cringe worthy. I feel embarassed watching them, that someone from overseas might see it.
      I totally agree with this article, although I do have a soft spot for Hollow Men.

    • Dave says:

      09:16am | 08/10/09

      Americans do the best comedy

    • Jack says:

      09:20am | 08/10/09

      Despite what Australians like to think, the sad fact is that we really arent as funny as we think we are. We like to have a go at Americans for laugh tracks, but honestly - our highest rating ‘comedy’ program is The Footy Show.

      It gets even worse when you start looking at our comedians. Carl Barron and Dave Hughes? Embarassing.

    • ShaneO says:

      09:48am | 08/10/09

      Spot on David!

      Thought you were a bit hard on ‘Hollowmen’ but maybe I so wanted it to be good I am more forgiving. Guess that shows how desperate I am for an Australian comedy that’s funny with insight. 

      Well said Jack. Its says it all when ‘The Footy Show’ is the yardstick. I think its worst then that mate because ‘Two and Half Men’ rates its arse of in Australia as well.

    • Keith says:

      10:07am | 08/10/09

      The Hollowmen was never funny, just a series of words joined together and spoken by various people taking turns without stopping.
      We have very few Australian comedians with intuitive talent, probably Jane Turner would be my pick.  We seem to think that comedy is all about joke telling.
      On the other hand we don’t have many intuitive script writers either. Understated straight faced comedy is always effective, provided the humour is intelligently put. I could refer to Col’n Campbell, aka Kym Gyngell as an Aussie example, some time ago.
      British comedies like Dead Ringers, The Two Ronnies, (who could forget the optometrist visit, and the doctor visit, with Barker sporting an axe embedd in his head, Corbett asking him ‘what can I do for you’.), Extras, Keeping UP Appearances, etc come to mind when thinking comedy.

    • Ally says:

      10:24am | 08/10/09

      I agree with Ted. The same faces keep appearing on Australian comedy year after year and the industry needs to take a punt on the up-and-comers before they look to the bright lights of the UK and the US.  It’s unquestionable that the UK is at the forefront of comedy writing because essentially it pushes the envelope and doesn’t try to be everything to everyone. We do have a lot of funny and talented performers, it’s just that the talent-pool dwindles when they move overseas and become a small fish in a big pond.  Australia’s best comedy has come from ‘taking the piss’ out of ourselves and not attempting to emulate a previous overseas success.  Back to Hey Hey - everyone loves a variety program but why did we leave it so long that Daryl Somers filled the void again?

    • David says:

      10:23am | 08/10/09

      Modern Australian drama is more laughable than recent Aussie “comedy” especially those poor attempts at copying the floods of American crime shows. American comedy is definitely no better in recent years, it is just cruder and even more mind numbing than ever. British comedy is still much better for a laugh these days but nothing like it used to be either…

      Oh and if you can’t laugh at a kid smearing vegemite on themselves, don’t watch it. It’s that kind of thing which the average Australian family can laugh at together and similar entertainment has been missed from TV. People have become too depressed, PC and stuck up to have a good laugh and really need to lighten up…

    • Ash Simmonds says:

      10:29am | 08/10/09

      Bring back Hey Dad!

    • Schartos says:

      10:34am | 08/10/09

      The problem is with the broadcasters not our sense of humour. Most folks posting here, my family and friends, all much prefer imported Brit and (occasional) Yank comedy. So we know what is funny but we can’t seem to produce it ourselves. There are some brilliant Aussie stand-ups out there and I’d shy away from saying we don’t have the local talent. I just don’t think the industry is prepared to nurture it. But then again, I got a few laughs out of Hey Hey last night so what do I know? Parko - that is quality. We need our own Parko.

      P.S. The only reason Connick got on his soap box was because the fascist little dullard wouldn’t have done his song without being promised the opportunity to lecture the nation on American cultural history - despite Tropic Thunder (2008) with Ben Stiller playing an Aussie Actor who had surgery to make himself black banging straight outa Hollywood last year. What a fckin joke.

    • Zoe says:

      10:36am | 08/10/09

      Who are these Aussie programmers who buy overseas shows (generic US sitcoms) that are so middle of the road and so slow off the mark to get them on our screens?  They need to give the Australian viewers a little more credit.  You say you put on the shows we want to watch, but it’s more a case of we have to watch the shows you put on our screens.  Any one seen the UK series the In-betweeners yet?  Brilliant.

    • Gibbot says:

      10:44am | 08/10/09

      Fair call David, however I think you overlooked one point of pure comedic genius - The Games.

    • Laurence says:

      10:50am | 08/10/09

      Shaun Micallef and Paul McDermott are the only two genuinely clever and funny Australian comedians on TV right now

    • Justin Turner says:

      11:46am | 08/10/09

      Most of the British gold mentioned here has come out of the BBC not the UK commercial networks. The BBC has 11 times the budget of the ABC to service 3 times the population. The ABC does remarkably well with the money it has, but simply can’t afford to take may risks.

      The BBC has had a second channel for decades (BBC2) - that’s where most of the edgy comedy was (is) screened. They can afford to show risky things on BBC2 as their core BBC1 audience will avoid it if they wish. Here ABC2 is still in its infancy & ABC1 doesn’t have the broad audience that BBC1 has (BBC1 usually wins the ratings). Risky/edgy/controversial shows on ABC1 upset their narrow audience.

      It’s not simply a case of lack of talent, it’s what’s affordable & what is acceptable to an ABC1 viewer. Sad but true.

      My recommendation of a better UK version of an Aus show is Never Mind The Buzzcocks (go for older series - the latest has guest hosts & is looking quite lame). It’s what Spicks & Specks could never be.

    • Jono says:

      12:42pm | 08/10/09

      Gee there is quite a lot of plumb (dumb) in mouth on this forum.
      TV is a wonderful medium and gives you the choice to watch what you want or turn the thing off.
      If you don’t like Hey Hey, don’t watch it and furthermore if you feel the need to leave the country because of a show that aired you need to pack your stuff up and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
      Maybe list the reason as ‘Depressed individual with a poor outlook on life’
      Go to google and search Beyond Blue!

    • Dan says:

      12:57pm | 08/10/09

      Liked Hollowmen. Loved Frontline,The Late Show and The Panel. Working Dog are Australian Comedy Legends.

    • Bob says:

      01:35pm | 08/10/09

      Anyone who says American shows lately aren’t funny either obviously haven’t seen shows like Entourage, Scrubs and especially Arrested Development, which is probably the funniest show ever created. The reason, they either do not get picked up by the commercial networks or they are played at horribly late times (after absolute garbage like city homicide, two and a half men etc.) Based on some of the Australian shows that get made, and the overseas ones picked up, TV execs in this country dont own TV’s. (except the ones who work for SBS, which is now easily the best network in the country)

    • Vian says:

      01:38pm | 08/10/09

      My guilty pleasure is Spicks and Specks - funny, good-humoured and occasionally educational.  Also, it makes me laugh a lot harder than pretty well anything else on free-to-air just now.

    • Anne says:

      01:47pm | 08/10/09

      Have to agree with you, Aussie comedy just doesn’t match up to British and, to a lesser extent, American. There are exceptions though - the Chaser were pretty good back in the day, and I still think John Clark’s Sydney Olympics satire, “The Games”, one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.  Oh, and David? I’m glad (albeit slightly puzzled) that you and your family think someone covering themselves with Vegemite to be comedy gold, but don’t accuse the rest of us of not having a sense of humour when we don’t. Perhaps it’s a case of small things amusing small minds, hmmm?

    • dan says:

      02:13pm | 08/10/09

      Hollowmen was great, but perhaps only the people that understood it best live in canberra.  The show takes on a new light once you work in the public service

    • Jamie says:

      02:16pm | 08/10/09

      Aaron Pederson in City homicide.

      Doesn’t get much funnier than that.

    • watto says:

      02:19pm | 08/10/09

      Comedians on Tv? Old school measurement dude. Most of the (global) comedy is on utube and other internet media. And there’s tons of good Aussie live acts out there that can still make you wet yourself.

    • Jast says:

      03:53pm | 08/10/09

      Jeez, you must be fun at parties. I Bet you go around eavesdropping on the conversations of the guests and criticising their jokes when they don’t meet the standard of you beloved, sophisticated British comedy.

      Thanks comedy cop! Our city is safe not to ever laugh again.

    • Ryszard Herzig says:

      06:50pm | 08/10/09

      Read what you wrote. Strewth you are funny. You are a comedian! And you go on record saying there is no good Aussie humour! Give me a moment to pick myself up off the floor. No sorry can’t stop laughing. Have to sign off! You are a crack up!!!!!

    • Daniel says:

      07:33pm | 08/10/09

      Hollowman was always a great comedy. I loved it actually. It didnt last long enough on the ABC.

    • Rob says:

      11:29pm | 08/10/09

      You nominate Kath and Kim as funny.

      That’s gold, you should get a job as a comedy writer with material like that!!

    • Mark says:

      09:22am | 09/10/09

      disagree completely, all is not lost, how about Paul Fenech and his ‘Swift and Shift’, that was comedy gold !!

    • Bob H says:

      11:11am | 12/10/09

      As we are all being honest, Australia does not do comedy, we are to comfortable and suburban and too many of us work in the public service. We are definately not a bunch of knock about larekins quipping our way through the trials of life.  There are cosy cliques of university mates trying their best on the channels, bless them - but there are no inspired creations.  The Australian Comedy by Committees will struggle to allow genuine comedy gold.

    • GG says:

      10:43pm | 22/11/09

      What do you mean, “EVEN the Americans are doing better comedy”????? America has a long history of comedy production, going right back to the days of vaudeville (and further for all I know) radio, and of course TV, right up to today.

      Of course there are lousy sitcoms but the point is they make lots and lots of comedy and increase the odds of producing good stuff by doing it constantly.

      Irony awareness doesn’t mean you can produce good comedy,a nd I say this as someone who appreciates Chris Lilley and the many talented performers of Aussie comedy in standup and theatre.

      Being able produce TV comedy is perhaps another skill altogether and depends on TV executives who are able to nurture the odd series without giving up completely. Seinfeld, a brilliant example of the genre, if not my absolute favourite, started out as The Seinfeld Chronicles and didn’t get it quite right at the beginning. A tweak here and there, some recasting and a TV station that stuck with it permitted him, Larry David and their show to become one of the biggest successes on TV.

      When Oz Tv stops defining Sam Newman as the epitome of comedy, and cultivates more of the Lilleys and Working Dog productions then we’ll see more of the stuff currently quietly growing in the live venues on Mainstream TV.

 

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