“That’s not insulation, THIS is insulation,” a Canberra insider quipped in mock Paul Hogan at news of Australian involvement in the Dubai assassination plot.

10,9,8…Rudd needed insulation from Garrett's woes. Photo: AAP

Three weeks of intense scrutiny over the bungled $2.45 billion free home insulation scheme, suddenly gave way to a news of an `actual’ political assassination.

And what a story it was, instantly providing Kevin Rudd and his beleaguered Environment Minister, Peter Garrett with some welcome political insulation. As former Liberal leader, John Hewson, noted, the PM grabbed it with unusual relish, so keen was he to start talking about something else.

In strict terms of course, Australia was not ``involved,’’ but the fact that cloned Australian passports were used by the Mossad team dispatched to the United Arab Emirates to in turn, dispatch a Hamas militant, piqued immediate public interest. Government figures won’t say it directly but few doubt that Israel, a close ally loyally supported by Australia at some cost, has betrayed that bond by stealing Australian identities.

``We will not let the matter rest’’ an angry Mr Rudd fulminated. This would ``not be regarded as the act of a friend,’’ Foreign Affairs Minister, Stephen Smith said. In the soft-shoe world of diplomacy, this was pretty strong language.

The Government had been keen to change the subject from the insulation debacle since the beginning of the week. Perhaps unsurprisingly in these days of professional politics, it attracted some criticism for the ``convenient’’ timing chosen to tumble out its long-withheld Counter-Terrorism White Paper on Tuesday morning.

The surprisingly slim security blueprint, certainly captured some attention by describing the threat from home-grown terrorists as permanent and canvassing the possibility of a ``dirty’’ chemical or even a crude radio-active bomb being set off in Australia. But in national political terms, it was not a game changer. Word was the document had been altered, if only in tone, because the PM’s office wanted an ``announcable’.

Circumstantially, the claim seemed plausible because the $69 million spending measure accompanying the release dealt with establishing a list of ``around ten’’ countries in which special biometric information would be required of applicants for Australian visas. You can see the point. This initiative has nothing to do with addressing the home-grown terror risk. Indeed, the White Paper seemed to offer little in the way of counter-radicalisation measures.

Britain by contrast, is spending around a hundred million pounds specifically on programs to address youth alienation and subsequent radicalisation of young British Muslims. It may be money well spent. Indeed some security experts now regard terror attacks emanating from Britain as among the more significant threats facing the US. Which raises the question, why has Australia gone for the a piecemeal approach requiring biometric finger-printing and face recognition information for visa applicants from some countries, but not others?

From a diplomatic point of view, this could yet bite the Government because a country like India should be on the list simply by virtue of its enormous population and its well known internal security tensions. After all, the Counter-Terrorism White Paper was actually commissioned in the days after the November 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Yet it is obvious that in the current environment, with India already suspicious of Australians thanks to a spate of attacks on Indian students, putting India on the list of potential hostile nations, would not go over well. Ditto for Indonesia and Pakistan who would also be offended. Moreover, from a counter-radicalisation standpoint, the watch list may even be counter-productive because local minorities from those countries singled out, are apt to feel more alienated by their targeting. The Government has not explained why it doesn’t just go to full biometric screening for all visas as the US has done, thus avoiding these problems.

The Opposition believes it has Labor’s measure on border protection especially as boats continue to arrive. Thus, Julie Bishop wasted no time trying to turn the Dubai/Mossad passport story against the Government also. She noted that the assassins deliberately chose stolen identities from a spread of benign countries unlikely to arouse suspicions in the UAE, to wit: Australia, France, Germany, Ireland and Britain. Her point? That terrorists intent on acts of violence here would similarly avoid entering Australia from the small number of countries required to submit to biometric testing.

The Dubai assassination and Australia’s unwitting role in it was no doubt a cracking yarn. It was like an episode of Spooks yet real. But its dominance of the front pages has offered only temporary relief for the Government and its troubles with the home insulation program.

Make no mistake, this is a king-size stuff-up and it probably has a way to run yet. Mr Rudd has now taken full responsibility for the scrapped program. Yet it remains unclear what that responsibility amounts to. It certainly insulated Mr Garrett because the Opposition obliged by training its guns on the PM. Mr Garrett survived but the Government has taken on water. And the Westminster convention (make that, myth) of ministerial responsibility has taken another hit into the bargain.

By Thursday night, Mr Rudd had completely abandoned any defence of the scheme, which Mr Garrett had been lamely attempting, instead turning up the contrition knob by admitting he should have asked more questions. The Government has now sent its MPs out into the `burbs and regions armed with information kits and a new message: we know it went wrong but we are now fixing it.

Politically, the hope is that this approach will steady the ship and restore voter confidence. But considerable damage has been done and nothing will insulate the Government should another house catch fire from dodgy insulation or worse, someone else comes to harm from this bungled program.

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    • John A Neve says:

      06:31am | 27/02/10

      These latest isues surely support my contention that rather than try to defeat terrorism, we should attempt to address the cause. No amount of money can fully insulate us from terrorism and that’s afact.

      Not all terrorists are after the same thing and thats a fact.

      Like the tribal feuds and clan wars of the past, we need a circuit breaker.
      Unless we address the isues, terrorism will make the hundred years war seem like a picnic.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      05:24pm | 27/02/10

      I don’t think you can defeat it John. These people, a term I use loosely when referring to terrorist, are religious fanatics implicated by religious dogma to inflict as much pain and terror on those they refer to as infidels. It’s hard to identify them because they don’t wear a uniform , they can move from nation to nation in small numbers inflicting small acts of aggression. It’s not the actual act that is their weapon but more so the possibility of it happening. When, where? It’s the psychological mind games. Look what happened after the Bali bombings, people refrained from traveling to Bali on the off chance that it could happen again. Look what 9/11 did for plane travel.
      You will never be able to address the cause because it would mean us giving up our liberties and freedoms, our rights to choose. We would have to fall in line with the strict beliefs of Islam in order to appease them, and that I cannot see happening.

    • John A Neve says:

      04:56pm | 28/02/10

      Evan,

      I believe you have fallen into the mass media trap. Not all terrorists are “religious fanatics”, to the best of my limited knowledge, they aren’t all of the dame race, country or political view.

      As I told Eric the other week, they are currently winning the “war”, I say this because their impact on our way of life is far greater than our retaliation is on theirs.

      I repeat yet again, for every one we kill another will take their place.

    • Steve says:

      08:38pm | 28/02/10

      Spot on. A few weeks ago I watched a National Press Club address in which (please forgive me I can’t recall his name) made some astonishingly sensible points on the so called “war on terror” al-la Bush oil push. He said, to paraphrase…look after the people, offer hope to the poor, destitue, disenfranchised and then you will win the people. However, not win the people in an “all conquering” sense, but simply that when the people have food, clothing, warmth etc they will no longer support extreme views. I thought that was so simple it was splendid.

    • Greg says:

      12:25am | 01/03/10

      Wow Alice… you saw a TV show! We’ll thats the end of the debate then isnt it. TV never lies, ask Homer.

    • Brett says:

      07:04am | 27/02/10

      Make no mistake, the insulation debacle will be the biggest political story this year. Garrett’s incompetence will bring down the Government at this years election. This Government has done nothing but squander money in feel good but useless programs.  So the Rudd spin doctors searched all over their office for something else newsworthy and came up with stolen passports as a media release. Not interested! I want a ministers head on a platter for the deaths, house fires, and loss of business and jobs that we have had to suffer because of basic incompetence the idiot Ministers.

    • Alice says:

      11:06am | 27/02/10

      Well then you had better demand the same of the Coalition.
      AWB stockbrockers inquiry, Government ministers knew about the bribes to Sadaam. So, they lied to parliament & the voters.
      Bishops free up the aged care market policy, 8 dead from negligence & many abused. Ignored volumes of complaints from doctors,family & nurses.
      Children Overboard. Government perpetuates a lie after being given a report to the contrary. Lies to parliament, lies to the people.
      Nelson bungles jet purchase after volumes of advice against it costing us billions.
      Taking us to an illegal war knowing the WMD was a complete fabrication.
      Abbott lying to the media about the slush fund he set up to oust opponents and then is forced to apologise. Not good enough.
      And now, it is revealed that the Coalition were advised about Aussie passport forgeries by Mossad & ignored it.
      Most of the ministers involved or responsible for the above are still in parliament holding senior positions and that includes Abbott.
      Would you like me to continue?
      Thing is a ratio of house fires related to insulation was analysed and was found that under this scheme there were less housefires & less electrocutions compared to ordinary circumstances in previous years before Rudd. Do we hear that? No!
      Go ask the fire brigade for their statistics.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      05:33pm | 27/02/10

      The deaths were of their own doing. Your happy to lay responsibility at the feet of the Environment minister but not at the feet of the worker’s who were careless and flaunted WH&S guidelines not to mention just plain common sense. I have laid insulation in ceilings and I am still here. And at the end of the day it is the employer who is responsible for those employed in his/her business. They are the ones who inform their employees of any changes to WH&S policies such as the banning of metal fasteners which the last worker died from after Peter Garrett had banned them. You can’t help people if they are ignorant, stupid and failing to adhere to safety guidelines.

    • Julia says:

      07:43pm | 27/02/10

      Alice: did anyone die in the AWB thing? Did a child die in the alleged overboard thing? Did anyone die when Nelson paid too much for defence materiel?

      Keating was about to introduce the aged care deposit system, but didn’t. Apparently he was reformed out of his nut and couldn’t deal with it and choosing music for the ALP launch in ‘96.

      And before you say anything about deaths in aged care, think about the number of bungles in State (oh, gosh, Labor) government run hospitals over the past 10-15 years.

      And slush funds! Ha! Give me a break! The unions are the biggest organised slush fund there is. And I was a member of a Student Union (not by choice) only to find out my fees weren’t going to assist the impoverished, but given in donations to .... Labor!

      Go on, Gomer, say it..

      Best of all… $42billion in deficit. Why isn’t it $120b? Because the Coalition paid off Labor’s debt (yet again).

      So Alice, you’re living in Wonderland if you think Kruddie’s Labor Government can hold any sort of moral high ground. He’s as dirty as you’ve tried to paint the Coalition.

      At least Howard could sack a minister and staffers when he knew they’d done the wrong thing.

    • John A Neve says:

      05:03pm | 28/02/10

      Julia,

      Labor has never, to my knowledge, had a “debt”. We have had a national debt, which is some times larger at other times smaller. So what?

      Now Julia, if you have proof Labor politicians put the money in their pockets you should go the the police. If however it was spent on health, roads rail etc, the debt was and is ours.

    • Alice says:

      06:33pm | 28/02/10

      Julie
      At the stockbrockers inquiry into the AWB bribes it was revealed that the Howard government did indeed know about the bribes because they were advised about the arrangements. This occurred only a few weeks ago you can google it.
      Ah, Julie you didn’t watch The Howard Years? When the Coaltiion won government the deficit was 5 billion less than when Hawke won from the Libs. And the debt truck of 92 billion was the foreign debt truck.
      Under Howard that ballooned to a smidgeon under 700 billion. In 2006 it was reported to be snowballing at 57 billion per year. They were warned by treasury to deal with it.
      Why do you think they call that old foreign debt truck the embarrassment of the Coalition?
      Doesn’t matter how you sugar coat it 8 aged patients died from negligence under Bishop’s policy.
      And Julie,Howard did such a good job at sacking lying,inept ministers that they are all still there. The ones who aren’t, left of their own accord.

      Ah, yes the unions. All on record Julie. Abbott’s fund sidestepped the rules Julie. He denied & lied that such a fund existed until he was caught out. Then he apologised.
      Now on Children Overboard. Inciting racial hatred is a crime overseas.
      And that is what is was.
      But Lying to parliament is a crime here in Aust. and Howard & his ministers stood up in parliament and lied about the event.
      The Howard Years exposed it to the full.
      Did Howard resign? Did his ministers resign or were they sacked?
      No!

    • Greg says:

      12:07am | 01/03/10

      I am an electrician and am currently inspecting and fixing failed insulation problems. How any one could allow “foil” insulation is beyond me. The first time I saw it in a roof I understood how easily someone could die. That stuff is a death trap and should NEVER be allowed. No wonder the Master Electricians were advising against it. Should have listened Garrett.

    • Get Real says:

      12:13am | 01/03/10

      Julia you have left out that before Gough we had no debt. Wonder where it all started.

    • Fed up and sick of them says:

      07:05am | 27/02/10

      I like many Australians are sick of turning on the news to see the Liberals in attack mode. I just turn it off and this story didn’t stop the attacks , they just are nasty people.  I am voting for Labor, simply because I hate aggression in any form and The Liberal Party seems have too much testosterone for my liking , that coupled with all the lies told to us in the past. Some Australians don’t forget that quickly

    • Paul H says:

      11:03am | 27/02/10

      Are you for real? You want to vote Labor because the opposition is calling them to account? Obviously your grey matter has gone soft. Have you not heard about how the Westminster system of government works? Rudd got away with blue murder until Tony Abbott became leader and now he faces a revived opposition. After the insulation rort, the thousands of boat people and the hideous IR laws, just to mention a few of Rudd’s stuffups, you still want to vote Labor because poor old Kevy is being bashed by Tony? If you are typical of the way others are going to vote then God help Australia!!

    • Max Power says:

      12:27pm | 27/02/10

      So, you will be voting for the man who aggressively abused a RAAF Flight Attendent becuase she couldn’t provide him with his “special” meal that his department failed to order. You will be voting for the man who attacks and character assassinates anyone who dares question him instead of answring the question.
      So you will be voting for the man who has done nothing but lie since becoming PM.
      Yep, your reasoning makes sense.

    • Steve Turner says:

      12:53pm | 27/02/10

      Straight out of the Hawker Britton songbook. Do the labor machinists get time and a half working on a Saturday.

    • marley says:

      12:56pm | 27/02/10

      Can we assume then, that you didn’t vote Labor when Mark Latham was leader?

    • Steve says:

      01:12pm | 27/02/10

      Personally, Paul Keating and Mark Latham are my role models when it comes to being nice.
      Mate, job of the opposition is to oppose the government, attack inconsistencies and failings.  It’s a part of a democracy.  It keeps governments honest and accountable.  If the government were on the ball, there’d be nothing to attack.

    • Andrew says:

      01:43pm | 27/02/10

      You forgot to declare your post as political advertising….

    • sumguy says:

      02:24pm | 27/02/10

      and i like many Australians am sick of turning on the news to see our PM waging a war on last nights today tonight episode with the catch phrases “working familys/ mums and dads” and the implyed “sumbody please think of the children”

    • Fed up and sick of them says:

      05:48pm | 27/02/10

      My vote, my tv my choice!! I spoke to a cabbie yesterday I asked “Do you like Tony Abbott?” he replied “hell no I think the man is evil” so I am not alone

    • Evan Findlay says:

      06:00pm | 27/02/10

      Paul H, you only have to look at the frontbench of the Liberal party to see why you wouldn’t vote for them. How many lies has Tony Abbott perpetuated on the Australian electorate and he never took stock of himself. But now he want’s accountability!!! Give me a break. “Rock solid, iron clad guarantees” Stating on the 7:30 report that he hadn’t set up a slush fund to attack One Nation only to be found out. Won’t re-introduce Workchoices, surely won’t but he will abolish your penalty rates and leave entitlements. Believes we should have followed New Zealands lead during the GFC. Their economy shrunk by 3.5%. Great economists he is.

      Bronwyn Bishop continually denied any involvement in covering up knowledge of kerosene baths being used in aged care, only to be caught out. We have not seen or heard from her in five years. Suddenly she has her finger on the pulse, mind you one might need to check that she has a pulse.
      Phillip Ruddock, children overboard. Continually claimed that the Navy informed him and other ministers that children were thrown into the sea. Those on the boat and who witnessed the incident stated no such thing happened. And under Howard’s leadership 9000 boatpeople still entered this country.
      Nick Minchin, right wing fruitcake espousing weird and bizarre conspiracy theories. Believes Workchoices didn’t go far enough….... and this was before it was watered down!
      And Barnaby Joyce, now there’s a man with his finger on the pulse. I never understand what he says because his sentence structure is similar to a dogs breakfast. He’s all over the place. People say Mr Rudd murders the english language, at least he is intelligent and articulate, he can structure a sentence. I don’t know what Barnaby is. And as for his arithmetic. millions, billions, hundreds of thousand millions, billions.
      And this is the motley, ramshackle of a crew you would like us to vote for. Next you will be saying Wilson Tuckey is an intellectual.

    • Uncle Buck says:

      10:40am | 28/02/10

      I’m with you on this. Abbott is bully and a liar. He changes his “view” as often as he changes his underpants. This is the first real “scandal” this government has faced, and when I look at the facts I discover it is not even a scandal. It just shows how blitheringly ignorant and unscrupulous coalition supporters are.
      They have their man now, a totally narrowminded thug named Tony Abbott. Definately another highwater mark for Australian Conservatives.

    • DocBud says:

      02:21pm | 28/02/10

      “and when I look at the facts I discover it is not even a scandal.”

      Absolutely, Uncle Buck, people bang on about four deaths, but all that means is that there ae four more jobs for the unemployed. Don’t hold your breath though waiting for Coalition supporters to give Labor credit for lowering unemployment. So what if Peter Garrett and his department ignored safety warnings? You can’t make an omelette without cracking eggs and the stimulus package and saving the planet are too important to be hampered by silly safety regulations.

      And Tony Abbott certainly is a bully, I heard that he made an air hostess cry because she didn’t have his special meal. His office also has a high staff turnover because of his bullying style. One staff member said: “He never gives positive feedback and gets angry very easily”.

    • Uncle Buck says:

      03:33pm | 28/02/10

      Thanks DOC Bud

      My point proven.

    • steve parker says:

      08:35am | 27/02/10

      Now - those are crocodile tears to deflect the home insulation debate.

    • William Crane says:

      11:16am | 27/02/10

      There is no insulation debate! It’s redundant accusation, and relatively cheap politics at that. But you couldn’t expect much more from Tony ‘let’s politicise the death of people’ Abbot!

    • Fog Badger says:

      05:22pm | 27/02/10

      You gotta be joking, William Crane (1216pm)!

    • William Crane says:

      01:56pm | 28/02/10

      I don’t joke… ever

    • Grid says:

      12:22am | 01/03/10

      Well mabey you need to joke William. You need to learn to understand humor to understand the funny side of how Krudd and co are screwing us and how those who support him are suck a joke. Sit down, have a cammolie tea and leave the world alone. That is what you ask of others isnt it?

    • Paul says:

      08:53am | 27/02/10

      I think you forgot the part where the Libs used the War on Error, to distract the populace away from your incompetent, do-nothing approach to national infrastructure, overcrowded cities, supporting anti-competitive business practices, housing unaffordability and homelessness. Not to mention spending hundreds of millions on supporting Al Quaida’s recruiting drive by invading -completely - the wrong country, Iraq. You make Monty Python look electable mate!  To quote you some Peter Garrett lyrics Mark, “Short memory, must have a short memory”.

    • Dek says:

      09:48am | 27/02/10

      Rudd is looking more and more pathetic each week. I mean this guy has no control of anything and when his ministers like garrett and roxon get off on their own agenda, we the people of australia are left worse off. This election I hope people will ask themselves if they really want another term with this unimpressive PM.

    • shabangabang says:

      10:06am | 27/02/10

      Forget espionage or terrorism, Australia is being dragged into the escalating tension between the UK and Argentina.
      A quote from the telegraph.co.uk website says:
      BHP, the Anglo-Australian mining giant, has been warned it will face sanctions in Argentina if it pushes ahead with oil exploration offshore Falklands.
      Pedro Villagra, Argentina’s ambassador to Australia, made the threat as the diplomatic row over the start of drilling continued to escalate.
      Apparantly insulation batts re a bigger selling news story than a possible conflict between nations, and possible economic sanctions that could hurt our biggest company.

    • Al says:

      08:46pm | 27/02/10

      Hey shabangabang
      Thats more like it.  Let’s get down to the nitty-gritty of Australian in the big global picture.  But first.  Let’s talk multinationals or transnationals. Who are the major stack-holders of BHP.  Who are they and where do their reside?  I not talking share holders, I would like to know their motivation It is to make their share holders happy?  Or are they in for a quite dolla,r similar to the telstra story. Oh no,  I sincerely hope it is not another blunder such as the Denmark Bank rip-off,

    • Josh says:

      11:44am | 27/02/10

      Fed up and sick of them, you are foolish. Labor did exactly the same thing except they had the smarmy media whore leading them. And now we have a government led by the media whore running in campaign mode all the time.

    • iain f says:

      12:27pm | 27/02/10

      You lot in the media are pretty hopeless. The rips off of government money from the free batts debacle if someone was to do the hard work on it would be astounding. Probably as much as half the money given out could have been ripped of. That’s my guess anyway, in November 08 I had my roof insulated for $800 by a Brisbane company. The same company were quoting for the same sized jobs $2000 at the hight of the money giveaway.

    • Aitch B says:

      12:34pm | 27/02/10

      @ Fed up and sick of them

      Yeah….. good reason to vote Labor. Forget the issues… not worth worrying about, eh?

      OK then…. I’ll vote Liberal because I don’t like Julia Gillard’s hair. Makes about the same amount of sense.

    • formersnag says:

      12:58pm | 27/02/10

      The loony, left, red/green/labour coalition have not done anything worthwhile since Chifley was PM. The liberal /national coalition are not much better, but at least they are not manic about wasting taxpayers money on creating more bureaucracy or abusing children, like the loony, left, feman-nazi controlled, red/green/labour coalition.

    • persephone says:

      07:13pm | 27/02/10

      Medicare. Floating the dollar. Getting rid of tariffs. Encouraging buying Australian products (something Howard scrapped). Withdrawing troops from Iraq.

      Free University was good too, alas it ended.

      The Coalition wants to create more bureaucracy, btw. The first step in their Direct Inaction scheme is to create a bureaucracy to run it.

      And the GST required a huge boost in bureaucrat numbers, as did WorkChoices.

      Remember, the number of public servants grew massively under Howard.

      And what’s this abusing children nonsense? Howard put children behind razorwire and Abbott is itching to put them back there. Rudd got them out, scarcely abuse.

    • watty says:

      11:33am | 01/03/10

      slight correction ‘persephone”

      The Howard Government put adults trying to enter Australia illegally in detention camps with their children.

      The Rudd Government want to pay the Indonesian Government to do this for them.

      $75 million to Toyota? $7 billion per annum for “global warming”?

    • G Davidson says:

      02:40pm | 27/02/10

      “Fed up and sick of them” appears not to have noticed the non-stop Labor attacks on the Coalition during the entire 10 years of the Howard Government as well as being unaware that Labor employs a small army of media and PR people to spin the truth and deceive the voters.

    • My say says:

      02:41pm | 27/02/10

      The Pink-Batts/Garrett is another episode and that is what it is ‘an episode’.  I don’t think much of Garrrett, any why, anyhow, but that is never here nor there as far as my opinion is concerned.  Granted he is an intelligent man and he is also a multimillionaire as the whispers has it.  All that side, Garrett really needs to ship up or ship out.  In having said that,  it is reasonable to understand why Kevin Rudd has not moved his out of politics entirely.  The Rudd Government can not afford to lose their political hold by the constant shifting in or shifting out of it staff.  And that goes for the Abbott Gove. too.

    • Angela Lloyd says:

      02:59pm | 27/02/10

      I have a question for all those who support the Libs.  What if Tony Abbott, or Mal. Turnbull were to cross the political floor and carry on the Business of Labour Government?  Aha now there’s a question.

    • DocBud says:

      05:25pm | 27/02/10

      Aha, now there’s an incredibly dumb question.

      If they crossed the floor and implemented Labor policies then they’d be Labor politicians and Libs wouldn’t support them. Many Libs have long suspected that Turnbull’s heart has already crossed the floor which is why he is not very popular.

    • Nigel Catchlove says:

      08:43pm | 27/02/10

      A question? Technically, yes, it’s a question but there’s no chance of that ever happening because there are fundamental philosophical differences between the two parties. You make the whole thing sound like some kind of football competition, ALP ‘supporters’ and Liberal ‘supporters’, well I’m a Liberal, not a Liberal supporter.  I believe in the rights of an individual to choose how to live, who to associate with and what is best for them; I believe that most parents know what is best for their children; I understand that small business is not only the heartbeat of this country but its soul as well.  I recognise the responsibility the individual and the state has to look after those who cannot look after themselves; I recognise the responsibility an individual has to themselves, their family and their community.  I believe in the liberating influence that capitalism has played and understand how the dead-hand of government intervention has distorted the marketplace and how this intervention always, always causes unintended and negative outcomes.  I believe in equality of opportunity and I believe that there can be no ‘rights’ without responsibilities.  These are not soundbites for the evening news they are deeply held beliefs that fly in the face of the collectivist, interventionist drive for mediocrity that is the hallmark of this media driven Government.  There are those who will disagree with my views and I challenge them to firstly make their arguments without name calling and glib commentsand secondly to do it without hiding and using the anonymity that new-media can provide.  Tony Abbott (and no, I’m not a ‘fan’) and Malcolm Turnbull will not carry on the business of Labor because it is a world away from what they truly beleve.

    • Dingo says:

      12:49pm | 28/02/10

      Well said Nigel. 

      Far too many posts are just “rooting for the team”, constantly distorting facts and using selective memory.

      I would like to hear the opposing view expressed in a similar intelligent, honest and heart felt way. Alice, Fed up…..? Not for the argument, honestly to get an understanding.

    • thatmosis says:

      03:03pm | 27/02/10

      Wow thats grown up thing to say"Fed up and sick of them”. What a petulant little puppy we are. The fact that the Labor party has done nothing since being elected except waste Tax payers money, break all their promises and generally stuff things up doesnt come into the equation because the Liberal party has too much testosterone. My god that really shows the mentality of the people who vote Labor doesnt it. You were nasty to out leader so Im going to pick up my ball and go home and never ever play with you again. heres an idea, just dont vote at all and save everybody the touble of having these clowns voted in again.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      06:17pm | 27/02/10

      thatmosis, if you had enough intellect, and by your comment that is a big if, by casting an informal vote you are actually voting for the incumbent government. And because you are unlikely to work it out i will spell it out for you. In opposition you actually need people to cast their vote for you, you need to draw votes away from the government. If you vote informal you are not voting for the government but by the same token you are not voting with the opposition, thus denying the opposition the votes they desperately need to topple the government. Let’s say you have eleven votes to decide government, five vote ALP, four vote Liberal and two vote informal. The ALP would still retain government.

    • persephone says:

      07:18pm | 27/02/10

      Oh, and saved all those jobs under threat due to the GFC. And stopped our banking system from collapsing by timely and well targetted actions.

      Of course, to people like thatmosis, people’s jobs don’t matter. People being able to keep their houses doesn’t matter. And the ongoing health of economy isn’t really important, either.

      And the future of the world and our children doesn’t matter. And apologising to aborigines definitely doesn’t matter.

      That these things are so unimportant to people like thatmosis says something about people who vote Liberal, doesn’t it?

    • Vicki PS says:

      10:17am | 28/02/10

      Quote: “the Labor party has done nothing since being elected except waste Tax payers money, break all their promises and generally stuff things up”.  You sneaky little monkey, that wouldn’t be hyperbole, would it?  Wow, that added heaps to the debate: thank you for sharing.  Now off with you, back to Silvertail Dreamland.

    • Its batty, says:

      08:28pm | 27/02/10

      Go get too carry away with the dinky, pinky, batty thingy.  It will end up being a storm in a tea cup.  I know, I know, I know it is most shameful, a number amount of crooks decided to milk the system for all its worth.  Hopefully they will suffer the full extent of the law.  I hope they have pack a tooth ready to be packed away in goal.

    • Julia says:

      10:15pm | 27/02/10

      I have to say, I haven’t seen this many pro-labor comments in a while. Me thinks the ladies doth protest overmuch.

    • luke09 says:

      12:14pm | 28/02/10

      Now, in his own words Kevin Rudd says he has failed to deliver and must do better. With the insulation scheme nothing but a disaster and now with Rudd labor allowing imorted beef to enter our country potentially risking our cattle industry with mad cow disease.

      We have seen how substanded batts have been imported and installed, I can’t see how we can track the origin and quality of imported beef. Why are we risking the reputation of our beef exports and risking the chance of consuming mad cow disease beef. It is going to be hard to bite into a pie in the future.

      One has to feel sorry for the unions with the latest poll showing both parties are equal with 50%. Last election they spent many millions in getting Rudd elected. Kevin Rudd is the Barnaby Joyce of the Labor Party and is leading the ALP back into opposition status.

    • Alan says:

      09:32pm | 28/02/10

      I can’t believe that everyone expects the government to do everything in two years of getting into government, with one year stripped away by the global financial crisis.  Seriously. The Libs say that only 2 Super clinics have been built out of what was promised. This is still 2 more than they built in 10 years. The computer roll out. Only 20 percent have been rolled out. That is 20% more than the previous government did. Not to mention all the activity that has been happening in communities with the stimulus package. Sure there have been problems, and the insulation issue is one - but even if 80% of homes are insulated properly, that is still 80% more than before. The deaths by the way have nothing to do with the rebate, and all to do with Occupational Health and Safety. In fact I didn’t once hear Abbott call for a inquiry into the deaths…. because they will prove that the government was not negligent, and played not part in their deaths.

    • DocBud says:

      11:58pm | 28/02/10

      Kevin Rudd is the CEO of the stimulus. The CEO is responsible for OH&S. The CEO of a private company would be facing charges but Rudd can claim “well. yes, we killed 4 people, but other companies kill people so that’s alright”.  Two wrongs make a right in Rudd’s eyes.

    • BensonBird says:

      08:15am | 01/03/10

      I agee with you Alan, may Australin homes were insulated for free and many are happy with the outcome. The shonks caused this with bad work ethics. I admire Kevin Rudd admitting things were wrong, unlike The liberals he was man enough to admit it. The Liberals lied and lied to us, then made excuses and blamed everyone else. Children overboard is a good example. Honesty from PM is a rarity for Australia. He has my vote

    • DocBud says:

      09:29am | 01/03/10

      No homes were insulated for free, BB. What has happened is that people who were not prepared to pay to have it done themselves have instead had me and every other taxpayer pay to have it done for them. And it is the gift that just keeps costing:

      “the National Electrical and Communications Association estimates it could cost taxpayers $500 million to clean up, repair and replace unsafe and poor-quality roof insulation.”

      http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/kevin-rudd-expects-voter-whack/story-e6frf7jo-1225835346443

      No homes were insulated for free, but some weren’t even insulated at all and we still paid. From the same story:

      “crime gangs in Romania, Lebanon and Asia have been skimming millions of dollars from the roof insulation scheme. Federal Police are investigating fake insulation companies set up by the gangs to claim $1200 rebates for work that has not been done.”

      Nice, we work hard for it only for the government to take it off us and give it to criminals. I wonder if they’re as careless with their own money.

    • watty says:

      09:35am | 01/03/10

      Seems as if Rudd’s “4000 little men in white coats” and their worthy leader Dr.Pachauri Chairman of the IPCCare to be hauled before the United Nations to explain a few little glitches in their “Global Warming ” reports.

      The Rudd/Wong proposed ETS fraud would make the expenditure on batts look like the tea money

      Look out Penny….“the buck stops here” means you will at least be demoted when this little beauty surfaces in Parliament.

    • Alan says:

      09:52am | 01/03/10

      I still reckon that Rudd has done more in two years, even with the GFC in the middle than Howard did in ten years. I have never seen so much community building going on before. My local hospital is getting a whole new wing. My daughters school just got a new computer room as well as new computers. I followed the schools efforts on My School (one of the best sites ever). My parents have received more increases in their pensions, including one off payments than they did in nearly a decade under Howard. And yet everyone still complains about everything. Yes the expectations are great, but seriously you can’t achieve everything in one hit.

    • casba says:

      12:08pm | 01/03/10

      @Persephone.

      How much is Labor paying you to spruik these inanities that pour profusely form your lips?  They are paying you, right?  You could not,  not be on the payroll and write such gibberish. You are a classic example of a pure unadulterated Ruddite- or should that read Luddite?

    • Robert Smissen says:

      12:31pm | 01/03/10

      Does Kevin Have a Junie Moroni & a Dr Cairns

 

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