Feel like your life lacks dignity, meaning and social inclusion?

Will a fulltime job cure all your ills? Computer says no

The solution is easy. Simply take one full-time job and do it. All your problems – especially those stubborn, low self-esteem issues – will be solved in one fell swoop.

This is the rhetoric accompanying new, “tough love” Budget measures aimed at shifting single mothers and disability pensioners off welfare and into work.

No-one wants to admit these measures are partly a populist ruse targetting convenient social scapegoats. So the policies’ orchestrators and defenders are insisting that – like gag-inducing spoonfuls of cod liver oil – they’re for people’s own good.

During a hectic post-Budget media and cup-smashing schedule, Wayne “glasser” Swan and his Prime Minister have been insisting that return-to-work strategies are about breaking generational cycles of disadvantage rather than spirits.

“Friends,” Julia Gillard said in an optimistic salutation during a recent address to the conservative Sydney Institute, “believing in the benefits and dignity of work is a deep Labor conviction… In today’s economy, inclusion through participation must be our central focus.”

At first blush, this slogan is reminiscent of the creepy Big Brother-speak from Nineteen Eighty-Four: “was is peace”, “freedom is slavery”, “ignorance is strength” and so on.

Yet while George Orwell’s doublethink is rooted in paradox, Gillard’s line is tautological; almost on par with “salary-collecting through wage-earning”, “employment through jobbing” and “gratuitous replication through needless repetition”.

Not that we should get caught in sticky Prime Ministerial spin like so many single mothers mired in the trap of welfare dependency and straight-from-the-jar-Nutella-eating.

Let’s look, instead, at the bigger issue of whether work is really the almighty panacea it is made out to be, or whether it is more of a modern day snake oil.

Some advantages of employment are indisputable. In addition to the prestige of not being called a dole bludger (it’s rare to see anyone boasting of being a “long term welfare recipient” on their business cards), there are the benefits of regular pay packets. These benefits will be especially regular you happen to be a billable minutes corporate lawyer or anaesthetist.

Working parents are also in a position to bequeath more than mere materialism to their offspring, in that education and employment tend to breed more of the same.

But while these aspects of the mutual obligation argument make excellent sense, the employment = dignity algorithm does have a number of weaknesses.

Economist Mike Rafferty is just one work-spert who claims the Budget will force vulnerable people into poor-quality and precarious jobs which pose risks rather than remedies.

“If you’re employed under a lot of pressure with very little discretion on poor pay and you’ve got bad bosses, it can be extremely bad for your health,” he told the ABC.

Rafferty, a senior fellow at the Workplace Research Centre at Sydney University, defines a poor quality job as one that is low on permanency, leave and remuneration; but high on stress and monotony.

This seems a fair enough assessment except that – as the job-for-life is rapidly replaced by impermanence, fragmentation and outsourcing – more and more mainstream positions fit Rafferty’s criteria.

It’s certainly not only salt mine-type jobs that may be toxic to workers’ health. According to new Australian research, people who slave for a decade or more behind a desk may have an increased risk of developing bowel cancer.

Sedentary lifestyles and desk jockey-ism have also been linked to obesity, diabetes, deep vein thrombosis, increased visits to hospital and a greater reliance on medication.

Salt mines (which actually now compete for occupational health and safety awards) start looking positively salubrious. In fact Men’s Health magazine recently went so far as to suggest that dimly lit and badly designed office cubicles may be more dangerous environments than jail.

This analogy is also explored in The Pin-Striped Prison by Australian columnist Lisa Pryor. She quotes a real life Gordon Gekko telling a gaggle of up-and-coming investment bankers that they should have only two holidays: one for their first wedding and one for their first heart attack.

So nice to schedule some “me time”.

Another fascinating writer on the philosophy of labour is UK-based author Alain de Botton.

In his book The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work, he writes of the demise of the generalist, and the “deadening, uniquely modern sense of dislocation” between the things we consume and their unknown origins and creators.

“So arcane are the operations around the port that no single person could ever hope to grasp more than a fragment of their totality,” he writes of a British container terminal.

“A ship’s captain may enjoy superlative command over the contours of the lower Thames, but no sooner has his vessel docked than he will be relegated to the status of an apprentice observer of the business of jetty engineering and the long-term refrigeration of citrus fruit – his jurisdiction ending as abruptly as the authority of his nautical chart.”

Such production line-ism is reminiscent of one of my favourite, most melancholy children’s books.

Nobody Owns the Moon by Australian writer and illustrator Tohby Riddle is the story of a fox called Clive Prendergast who lives in a small, one-room apartment in a busy part of town. 

By day, an overalls-wearing Clive toils beside both human and mechanical cog wheels on a factory conveyor belt: “He doesn’t know what is made there, he just puts the same two parts together – over and over.”

The meaninglessness of Clive’s work is mitigated by the joys of completing crosswords, eating sushi and attending the theatre with his friend Humphrey, the homeless donkey.

Yet – at the risk of coming over all Marx-esque – surely this sort of alienation from the end product of one’s labour isn’t particularly conducive to dignity and workplace satisfaction. 

French author Corinne Maier rejects the classic Bastille-storming revolutionary response and proposes (or at least formalises) a laissez-faire form of revolutionary resistance.

In Hello Laziness – Why Hard Work Doesn’t Pay, she argues that the best riposte to corporate exploitation and the fundamental pointlessness of work is to embrace uncompromising parasitism.

Her 10 counter-commandments include using jargon, shirking responsibility and doing as little as possible. “Be from now on a dead weight, a wash-out,” she urges. “White-collar dissidents, it’s time to get lazy!”

Another approach is to keep your own crappy job in perspective. In his book 50 Jobs Worse Than Yours, New York writer Justin Racz details comparison occupations such as garbage barge skipper, rat catcher, cheesecake tin quality controller, hazardous material remover, maggot wrangler and spam copywriter.

To this list of difficult and potentially dangerous occupations, he could well add Work Ethic Questioner and Welfare Recipient Defender.

Like Emma Jane’s work? See more at The Australian.

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    • TChong says:

      05:52am | 23/05/11

      Emms , no use looking for sympathy for the marginalised with this audience.
      Most right Punchers would think these proposals (single parents, disabled back to work) arent punative enough.

    • Tom says:

      08:40am | 23/05/11

      Any evidence concerning your second statement TChong. Or are you just putting out the standard Hawker Britton (Godwin) ad hominem to protect the welfare industry?

    • Tubesteak says:

      08:48am | 23/05/11

      It wouldn’t work on this particular Puncher.

      Who cares if work is “right ” for someone. It’s better than having a bunch of useless parasites sucking money out of the system.

      If they can find a way to support themselves without any taxpayer benefits (including health care) then fine. If not, get to work.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      10:01am | 23/05/11

      Tubesteak

      I could not agree more. 

      People should take the first job they can get, then work their arses off to improve their lot.  No-one else can do it for them. 
       
      When I got out of the military, I worked as a labourer for a while (picking up some handy skills along the way, I might add) until I could get a better job. I worked hard and I eventually started employment in a field I liked. if I can lug cement around, build scaffolding and crack rocks - any bastard can.

    • Tbowler says:

      10:02am | 23/05/11

      I suspect it is hardly just the ‘right’ that believe that productive work is about more than what is ‘right’ for the individual but a social responsibility.

      I find it amazing that the left support claptrap like this “only work if you would prefer it to being a dole bludger” business and then have the gall to demand those that do work pay massive taxes to meet their ‘social obligation’

      Perhaps Ms Jane could write a similar article entitled “Paying taxes may not work for everyone”- defending those hardworking citizens who through no fault of their own are only able to find fulfilment through Cayman Island tax rorts and negative gearing….

      I say this seriously because if Joe the Bogan can only blossom as the precious flower that is through staying at home all day and bludging off my taxes then perhaps I can only find my ‘inner-self’ through avoiding contributing to his lazy, self-fulfilling, parasitic lifestyle.

    • TChong says:

      05:59am | 23/05/11

      Collingwood kept the faithful in suspense for 3 quaters.
      CB Doggies- almost. Wests Tigers - unexpected since Panthers played pretty good last round.
      All attention for the big’un on Friday.

    • Erick says:

      06:05am | 23/05/11

      Desire for more toys and fancier ones creates a need to work longer hours. If we limit our lifestyles, we can limit our work. I’ve settled on a shorter week as a good compromise that meets my needs.

      One size doesn’t fit everyone. Some people enjoy their work for its own sake, and will spend long hours on it out of sheer enthusiasm. They should be rewarded appropriately.

      Others are completely unsuitable for a conventional job - either due to mental issues, criminality, or sheer incompetence. As employees, such people subtract value rather than adding it, so it makes sense to pay them not to work - it’s just less trouble that way.

      We should adapt a flexible attitude, not expecting everyone to fit the same pattern.

    • bec says:

      06:52am | 23/05/11

      I think you’ve finally posed something I 100% agree with. I’ll stick my head outside my door and watch for packs of stray dogs roaming the streets and blood flowing in the gutters.

    • Erick says:

      08:08am | 23/05/11

      Cats & dogs living together ... mass hysteria!

    • AliceC says:

      08:27am | 23/05/11

      Same here Bec, I too for once agree with Eric.

      There are some people that simply cannot particiapte in the workforce, and for good reasons as outlined above.

    • Tom says:

      08:42am | 23/05/11

      Typical cheap journalism / propaganda. Pick an extreme “straw man” case that was never intended and attack it.

    • bec says:

      08:45am | 23/05/11

      The part about limiting ones lifestyle also rang true. My parents were awfully miserable growing up, despite (or perhaps because of) their considerable monetary and material wealth. Hence when I finished school, the prospect of spending five years surrounded by the sort of cockbag who only does law to brag about being a lawyer only to live in some poxy overpriced shitbox in Teneriffe was about as appealing as giving Kim Beazley a brazilian wax. Hence, loaning out Status Anxiety to as many of my older students as possible.

      The idea of flexible work suits everyone and families especially. The world *would* be a better place if all parents could work part time and live on one wage. Obviously unsuitable for some jobs, but wevs.

    • Fona says:

      08:55am | 23/05/11

      Yes, I actually agree too…..
      I also think most jobs have some degree of tedium anyway and if some office jobs are so bad as to be prison like, then why aren’t they offering a swap? Then they can have that me time….

    • fairsfair says:

      09:10am | 23/05/11

      Erick, this is a big day for you!

      wink

    • Cloud Strife says:

      09:55am | 23/05/11

      The ‘dead wood’ certainly drags everyone else down.

      Apart from the abovementioned, who shouldn’t really work, there are the toxic “I don’t want to be here and will make everyone as miserable as me” people that you find in every workplace.

      I wish they would just leave! Why stay in a job you hate so much?

    • dancan says:

      09:56am | 23/05/11

      The idea of flexible work hours is a nice one but it’s a pipe dream.  Flexible work hours puts everyone else at a disadvantage while you’re not there, especially if you hold a position of leadership or responsibility.  On top of that if Australia did go down the path of flexible working hours it would place the entire country at a disadvantage against the rest of the world.  While we’re away enjoying family time other countries are grinding away achieving a far greater economic and technological advantage.

      Though I sound like a pessimist I would actually love flexible working hours, but the reality is that it would never happen. 

      The idea of quitting my job, selling up all my crap here and buying a nice 5-7 acre block somewhere on the central coast, and create a little self sufficient farm for me and fresh produce my friends sounds like a dream come true.

    • Erick says:

      11:40am | 23/05/11

      Dancan, I wasn’t so much talking about flexible hours, as a flexible attitude that allows a large variety of work arrangements. Some would be 40-hour weeks, some would be 60 hours, some would be 30, some would be on-call, some would be flexitime. Clearly, some options would suit one business but not others.

      I agree that some jobs preclude flexible hours. But there are other jobs that allow them. It’s largely a matter of matching the right people to the right job and the right hours. It won’t work for every industry or for every employee, but it should work for many.

    • John says:

      12:08pm | 23/05/11

      Erick

      You need to blame the bankers, with their printing press’s. They are the ones that keep society working in the never ending perpetual capitalist society for their gain alone. They create and cause inflation, steal wealth from savers, they cause the living costs to rise, making it harder to own property and force people to pay more rent. You might think wages are going up, but lets look at the house prices and rent prices compared to wages, it seems to me wages have realistically gone down then up. Maybe this is why we import everything from china to camouflage this. We have gone into this cycle of really working and wasting our times for nothing really. It’s a pointless society, where human’s goals are banker slavery and mindless materialism.

    • deb says:

      06:13am | 23/05/11

      I agree it is time to get welfare recipients back into work.As one myself who struggles to work part time i welcome all these new jobs.New jobs? where are they coming from?
      I have a job cleaning,nothing wrong with it except that at my age its an ongoing struggle just to keep my weary old bones going the 15 hours a week i get right now.Whining? I hear you all say!
      well after nonstop running for up to five hours making beds and cleaning showers ect…the time allotted to do each room shrinking no matter the state of the room.Its a hard physical job which a lot of men would refuse to do. So go ahead and give me a FULLtime job with all the perks ,like proper breaks and paid holidays and little things like my super paid (not paid now).
      Treat me as you full time workers get treated.
      Also while you all want to take these young mothers and shove them into any ole job,who is going to educate them on how to manage their wages? Wages that dont come with a fall back pension card? You know the rent subsidies and cheap medical and utilities cuts ect…
      Most of these women,sorry girls have never lived from more than fortnight to fortnight. I do apoligize to 90% of these ladies they are usually good mothers just struggling like hell to do the right thing by their kids
      As a young mother myself whose teenage marriage didnt work out .I had to flee with just a nappy bag and two babies thirty five years ago. I do know what it is like to battle the system.
      Thirty-five years ago,today,not a lot of difference that i can see.Still the same stimga,passed down from mother to teen mother. Education? Maybe if we start with the very young in primary school and break the cycle there.

    • howbout says:

      07:38am | 23/05/11

      Agreed Deb. All things certainly aren’t equal. How about; it’s study, volunteering or work? And study only for a designated period of time because some people have turned it into full time (job) study at any age at the expense of taxpayers.

    • Rebecca says:

      10:01am | 23/05/11

      Agreed. I study full time, work part time (where I am paid illegally but can’t do anything about it), tutor school kids and do various internships and such for free, yet my housemate who literally does nothing but sleep and play video games makes more money than me because he’s on the dole. He’s perfectly capable of working, he just doesn’t want to. And yes, I am aware that I will have a well paying job later in life. But for now, that is the situation and it hardly seems fair that people like me and deb work our butts off for nothing while centerlink bludgers can get paid for no reason. People like single mothers and those who are genuinely disadvantaged should get all the help that is available. But not people who are just slacking off.

    • howbout says:

      06:16am | 23/05/11

      How about, we work to pay the rent, buy food, that kinda thing?

    • Kika says:

      01:31pm | 23/05/11

      Thats what I do. That;s my only inspiration to keep working, otherwise I’d retire - at 28.
      I’m serious. When my boss goes through my development plan I have to lie because all I want to do is not work. LOL.

    • Jade says:

      04:02pm | 23/05/11

      Haha Kika, I hate the “where do you see yourself in 5 years questions”... I can’t really say hopefully married with a baby raspberry I don’t think it would go down to well.

    • acotrel says:

      06:38am | 23/05/11

      I spent 40 years serving under the most abysmal management cultures possible.  I always applied myself to my job, and even attended night classes to age 57, to improve my abilities.  I worked under the theory, that if you had to be there, you might as well do the job properly.  You can sit back taking the opportunistic approach, but one day you will be old, and looking back on your achievements.  I know what mine are!  CAN YOU SAY THE SAME?

    • deb says:

      07:14am | 23/05/11

      acotrel,you can spell and sound educated.Old school too.
      A couple of years older than me,you went thru the education system that i did by the sound of it. You know the one ,teacher with big stick,learn by rote,ect . By George we did learn too`.Bring back the big stick,learn by fear,funny how that sticks in the brain box longer than all this soppy crap they teach with this days.

    • Rick says:

      07:58am | 23/05/11

      No. I’m Gen Y. I spent 1 year working under abysmal management, the I snatched it and got a better job. Been here three years so far, no plan to leave any time soon. I saw a shitty situation and I was smart enough to change it. CAN YOU SAY THE SAME?

    • acotrel says:

      09:48am | 23/05/11

      @Deb The motto of the school I attended was ‘Honour the work’.  It actually has some meaning for me!

    • acotrel says:

      09:56am | 23/05/11

      Deb, Rote learning has its place, but it really turns me off.  I’ve only ever been able to learn if I have a real, possibly prior interest in any subject.  I’ve lectured students at tertiary level.  I usually develop a subject dedicated web site with discussion papers and assignments.  My classes are usually open discussions.  It works well, especially if any of the kids are dyslexic.

    • acotrel says:

      07:01am | 23/05/11

      @deb I feel for you.  Cleaners are the invisible people, and the most exploited. It’s interesting that one of the richest men in Sydney made his money through a cleaning business.

    • Fiona says:

      09:01am | 23/05/11

      Also a valuable part of the work force too. How would our hotels, food courts, public loos and offices look without you?

    • Vince says:

      09:22am | 23/05/11

      It used to be that only men had the paid jobs.  Women did the domestic work (unpaid).  I’m no mathematician but that seems to me to be at least half the population right there who were not “employed”.  Now, when you subtract the children and the elderly from that, what are you left with?  Probably only about 25% of the population doing paid work at any given period of time.

      Yet, we were able to create all of modern civilisation based on that formula.  We landed on the moon.

      Now, I’m not saying only men should work (that’s not my point) but perhaps there is a bit of room to enjoy the idea that not everyone should be doing paid work and that society will not collapse in a heap if that happens.  A single mom, for example, would have her hands full just taking care of her family, let alone carrying a job on top of that.  Wouldn’t we rather her do a good job of that rather than have her neglect her kids so she can take a minimum wage job somewhere?

    • bec says:

      10:12am | 23/05/11

      Like. Though there’s something to be said of the nature of work we expect to be done by volunteers, or for a very lowly wage, or “for the love of it”. I dare say that many of the “feminine” domestic arts are some of those little things that truly act as glue in society and families…

    • Tim says:

      10:54am | 23/05/11

      This would be fine if people’s expectations for their lives met reality.
      Unfortunately, there are far too many people who, like a kid at an all you can eat banquet, have eyes that are too big for their stomachs.

    • Susan says:

      11:09am | 23/05/11

      To a point I agree with you, but what happens when the children have grown and mum has spent 20 or so years doing something that society says is worthwhile but amounts to nothing on a CV.  She looks back on her life and ‘knows’ that she contributed to society but still can’t get a job because she has no marketable skills. As a single mum (and I’ve been one) you have to plan long term as well as short term. I’m glad I studied and worked part time when my boys started school because now at 47 with both my children grown and living their own lives I also have a life.  For me, it has always been about being able to have choices.

    • Vince says:

      12:07pm | 23/05/11

      @Susan, yeah, I can see that (and well done).  I know of a single mom who is doing exactly the same thing right now.  She’s awesome, and so is her little boy, who spends from 6:30am to 5:00pm in care yet keeps smiling.  But, as admirable as that effort is to me, I don’t think i’d want to force her into doing that by holding back money she needs to get by and raise her family.  Not everyone can manage well like that and it’s not wise to put people in such a situation of stress, don’t you think?  Frankly, I’d rather we knock a few infinitesimal fractions of a percentage off of our GDP than put single moms in stress positions like that.

    • sludger says:

      09:38am | 23/05/11

      Sick of whingers and apologists.  I have a great job now, good pay. But I have had to do some crappy ones on the way, lousy pay and physically demanding.  Jobs where you turn up on the day and see if you are working.  The thing is, if there was nothing else, then that is what I did.  Nobody I know has a perfect job.  You just do your best with what you have.  Erick summed it up nicely above.  So you haven’t got a great job?  Suck it up, because if you are not working you will never get a better one.  And why should I pay someone to not work?  (I am not talking about mentally or physically disabled here, just those who pick and chose).  And if you are on the dole, treat the dole as a job.  You get paid to look for work, right?  so you get up, buy the paper, get on the net etc and look for jobs.  You make calls,  you get off your butt and go to interviews.  I can assure you there is work there, we always have work at my company, but no applicants.  And we do pay well.

    • Jade says:

      11:34am | 23/05/11

      Most people expect to just be able to walk straight into their dream job though. They forget about the hard work and effort people have had to do to get those positions.  I wouldn’t be where I am now if I had just quit my first shit kicking job with the pervert for a boss after a month.  I stuck it out for a year and moved onto something better!

    • Clare says:

      09:52am | 23/05/11

      Australians have been well trained to ‘blame down’....‘the reason I am not richer/wealthier/more successful is those damn dole bludgers/disabled pensioners/teen mothers/refugees’  etc etc, certainly not those on $150K+ claiming welfare (they’re still struggling!)! We have turned aspirationalism into such a fine art that we allow for little understanding of those at the bottom of the heap. Firstly, there have always been the unskilled and unintelligent amongst us. It’s called the ‘bell curve’. Many unskilled jobs have now completely disappeared (seen hand delivered mail lately, or tea ladies?). Many people in the categories of long-term unemployed or disability pensioner are actually people living with mental illness. That is where they end up, as we don’t generally institutionalise people anymore. So the very group the government (and opposition) have said they want to help, they are simultaneously demonising.  I also denote a return to the old moralising re single mums…. obviously in their predictament through their own actions alone?????? (there are usually men/boys around, as I recall, but they seem to have escaped any recriminations here).
      The truth of what will happen is this….centrelink workers and job placement centres (generally full of marketing graduates with a distinct lack of empathy) will harrass their already harrassed clients to attend job interviews for dubious very temporary positions, or shunt them into yet more computer courses, anything to move the numbers around, and then after about 3-4 months, said centrelink worker will get transferred, or take a different job, and the client will start the process all over again with someone else who doesn’t care..
      Eric is right….it is best to leave these people alone, give them the option of further training etc if they want it, but stop pouring endless money into a truly useless beureacracy that chews people up and wastes resources.

    • Spence says:

      11:04am | 23/05/11

      You sound as if you’ve got some direct knowledge of what really goes on at centrelink and the rest.  What I’d like someone to tell me - perhaps you can - is the exact percentage of people who the Government thinks should NOT be recieving benefits but in fact are (ie. the bludgers).  Then I’d like to know their reasoning behind this number and justification for making that assessment.  Nobody seems to have come out said this.  Just vague whistling that there are “too many”.

    • bec says:

      11:10am | 23/05/11

      Won’t *someone* think of the downwardly envious?

      They think of you, ‘taking’ ‘their’ ‘hard-earned’ tax-payer dollar…

    • Clare says:

      12:32pm | 23/05/11

      @spence I don’t know those numbers, but I would suspect that they are a lot lower than the rhetoric would suggest. My experience was two fold….as a centrelink client (well qualified teacher, only receiving part-time work, despite being on every list possible and applying for everything going), and then also as a TAFE teacher who actually worked with the long term unemployed. It is really laughable, there are actually a hell of a lot of people over 40 struggling to find work, being denied interviews by 30yr old ‘managers’ with less experience/qualifications than them, who then have to attend job training programs run by, again, people younger and less qualified than themselves, who will talk to them endlessly about how to write a resume. Endless queues, endless stuff-ups, and more and more demoralisation. The only way you could financially be a ‘bludger’ would be if you had free accommodation (ie, still lived at home, or lived 16 people to a 2 bed house). As rents in Sydney are well over $150 a week, and max single benefit is $250 plus around $70 rent assistance, people are far from living the life of Riley. And if you happen to own your own home and get retrenched/sacked etc and end up on benefits, you get NO SUBSIDY TO PAY YOUR MORTGAGE. None. Nada. Centrelink will support landlords, but not individuals trying to keep their homes. The slide into poverty becomes inevitable. For the few in South Western Sydney or similar that the media latches onto, who are truly just lazy, there are thousand who would do anything to get back into work.

    • Parky says:

      02:43pm | 23/05/11

      I have yet to see a robot deliver my mail.

    • Clare says:

      03:05pm | 23/05/11

      @ Parky I was referring to the old practice where important documents were hand delivered around the city pre faxes or email

    • Jade says:

      10:27am | 23/05/11

      I hate working, I hate sitting at a desk all day watching day after day pass by out the window.. but then I hate having no money.  I work because I have to not because I want to.  If I had my way I would spend my days volunteering at an animal shelter.

      You do what you have to do to get by, I don’t see why people should be able to sit on welfare while the rest of us waste our days away.  Employment may not work for everyone, but they should at least try and make it work.

    • Tim says:

      10:57am | 23/05/11

      Exactly,
      I hate my job, but I hate not having money even more.
      If you want to be a free spirit who doesn’t want to work or wants to do something more meaningful, then I’m OK with it.
      But don’t expect to live the same lifestyle as me while you’re doing it.

    • Kika says:

      01:34pm | 23/05/11

      Agreed. Me too. I’d rather be doing something positive then slaving away for some corporation making money for the shareholders. I’ve never been motivated by career. Everyone is made tot hink that there’s a career out there for them… well what? The realities of doing the same thing each and everyday for your whole life is not as wonderful as they make out.

    • Jade says:

      02:20pm | 23/05/11

      Same here Kika, most people all focused of career career career.  I don’t think I will ever follow one path unless it is dreaded admin/PA work.  My passion is animals and if I could work with them every day it wouldn’t really be work to me.

    • Dave-o says:

      10:31am | 23/05/11

      I’ve already braced my white collar dissidence by trawling punch.com.au all day. Viva La Revolution/Hour long smoko’s

    • TracyH says:

      11:15am | 23/05/11

      Jade…spot on:) You should do a day a fortnight at an animal shelter, while doing a tafe course on an animal based area, and given time, maybe a paid job would come up at the shelter, or another one somewhere else.
      For those who think not everyone can work, why can’t those who can’t work in drudgery at least do volunteer work? A day a week doing something, anything, eg visiting the sick, gardening, helping out at animal shelters, selling The Big Issue, anything at all…there are thousands of ways every single person in this country could make some contribution.
      I love the above commenter who said he should withhold paying tax!
      Yep…work can be bloody awful, but never as awful as knowing you are doing a hard job to enable others to feel a crap job is beneath them and poor for their mental and physical health.

    • Watcher says:

      11:16am | 23/05/11

      What concerns me, is unmarried mothers, if they want them to go back to school they should arrange night classes when their babies are asleep. I had my son at 17 years of age, he is 40 years old now and just lovely, he is a manager of a large Australian Company and he is a son I am very proud of. For these very young new mums it is a very frightening time, its all new and there is a little life dependent on you, at a young age you don’t even have life experience to help you through. I was married and had a family to guide me but my son was the first baby I had ever held in my arms. These little babies need their mums, just like babies with older mum’s do. They will bond with whoever is caring for them, and if mum is at school it won’t be her.

    • Jade says:

      12:03pm | 23/05/11

      My Mum had me 3 days before her 16th birthday.  She did school during the day time and I turned out fine.

    • deb says:

      06:56am | 24/05/11

      Watcher, i had both my children in my teens.Fled a violent marriage while they were stll babies and lived on a pension.
      Both my children,in their mid thirties now have stable jobs and homes. i believe if i had stayed in the marriage the cycle of poverty and teen pregnancies would not have stopped.

    • Jade (the other one) says:

      12:16pm | 24/05/11

      @Watcher, I don’t know what things are like where you are, but in my area, the support given to teenage mothers to be allowed to finish school and raise their children is immense, even to the detriment of the other students in their classes. For instance, at one school, the mothers are allowed to bring their babies into class and breastfeed. The screams from babies and the noise and disturbance that it causes for the other students is extremely detrimental. Never mind the fact that they either had the fortitude to wait, or the good sense to use protection. Never mind the fact that they may be struggling students, students with learning difficulties exacerbated by the presence of a baby and mother. We have to support the poor teenage mothers.

    • avid says:

      12:13pm | 23/05/11

      i would suggest that many in the workforce aren’t actually working - but merely ‘in employment’. As many punch readers would know first hand - bludging occurs in the business sector as well. It would be interesting to see which is the bigger drain on the economy - dole or corporate bludging.

    • Clare says:

      12:15pm | 23/05/11

      For those of you promoting more volunteer work….well, these jobs used to be PAID. More and more they are out-sourced to welfare/church groups and so are no longer available as ‘paid employment’ for those with ‘low skills’ (the very people you want to get off the dole)
      For those of you promoting ‘doing something more meaningful to get out of your mundane job’ , well, in australian the only viable funding available is for elite sportspeople, who will go to an institute of sport, get a stipend, and get private sponsorship. For years, the only support for writers, musicians, poets, artists etc was the dole. Everyone loves these people when they become stars, but that is a very long process, and grows out of a viable artistic community, not just by cheery-picking a very few. Other countries do this differently. Here, we pretend that these creative types are born- fully formed- and there is no development time needed.

    • Jade (the other one) says:

      12:19pm | 24/05/11

      Funny, most of the successful artists, singers, musicians etc I have heard of got there through doing it on the side while working regular jobs like the rest of us. I know of very few who were unemployed while building a career.

    • Aaron says:

      12:20pm | 23/05/11

      As a current disability pensioner (mental illness) and one of 2 raised by a single mother, I know what the system can do to people. It gets you into a position where you where you can take 2 paths, become dependent on it for life or use it to your advantage and get out of it. Currently, with the way the likes of Centrelink, Department of Housing, Public Mental Health systems, Job placement centres and alike, it is a whole lot easier to just ride the system for all its worth than to get out and make somthing for yourself. Workers that rather be working somewhere else, overworked and generally unhappy, are of no use to anyone. If the goverments were serious about getting people off the welfare systems, forget about simply pushing people to work, get some better workers. Ge the type of workers who want to be there, ones that enjoy working with the disadvanted people, to help change their mindsets and you will see much better results than just telling people to get off their arse.

    • Kika says:

      01:36pm | 23/05/11

      I found the complete opposite. When I lost my job and went on Newstart I found the whole process really pushes you to get a job. I actually applaud those who stay on it, because just staying on it is like a full time job. I guess it comes down to whether you a) really want a job and earn your own cash or b) really want to stay on welfare.

    • MexicanBeemer says:

      02:48pm | 23/05/11

      Kika - I think Aaron is talking more about the Disabled Employment providers and the same does apply to some job network providers as well.

      The system does as Aaron pointed out give the disabled person two choices with a bias towards becoming dependent, this is because of the manner in which the system was set up.

      The system is set up based on how long you have been unemployed and there are restrictions on how many providers you can have and then there is a wating time between being allowed to change providers.

      I think this is why as Aaron pointed out there is low staff morale in some of these providers.

    • Just Another Smith says:

      03:05pm | 23/05/11

      I agree Kika, I was on the Newstart allowance for a few months while waiting for some surgery. Once it was over, Centrelink was right on my back about getting work again, even though I’d only just recovered. It was easier to stop getting payments than dealing with the fifty letters a week I was receiving from them. There’s nothing like having no money to motivate you to find a job!

    • Harquebus says:

      12:36pm | 23/05/11

      Well… Someone has to pay for it. That coal and those minerals ain’t comin’ back.

    • Kika says:

      01:28pm | 23/05/11

      I am only 28 and I hate work. I am over it and can’t wait for retirement. So in short - no, work does not fulfil me and does not fill me with self esteem.

    • Vince says:

      02:27pm | 23/05/11

      You sound like you’re having a down day, Kika!  Monday-itis.  Cheer up, only 4 more days until the weekend.  Seriously, though, at your age you shouldn’t “love” your work or find fulfilment in it.  Too many more important things than that!  Someone I once new told me that you should do as many different jobs in the first ten years of your career as you can.  Don’t even worry about it.  Just do it and learn.  Then, once you’ve gained skills, knowledge and experience you can then start to think about what you want to do, more seriously, for the rest of your life.  I followed that advice and can tell you it makes sense.  By the time you reach your 30’s you start to calm down a bit and things fall in place a bit easier.  Look at each job as a learning experience, no more.  Kind of like a bad relationship.

      Good luck!

    • Dale says:

      01:42pm | 23/05/11

      Bashing the unemployed is a lot like bashing the fat. Nobody really wants it to happen to them so it is easier to blame the victim with cheap sloganeering rather than address the real reasons behind these problems which may uncover unpalatable truths. Fear is the great driver here. By lambasting the jobless and unfit people buy temporary sercuruity and comfort that it will never happen to them as surely it is the fault of those who are bludgers and don’t work hard enough and eat too much and don’t excersise. Of course that will never happen to me as I am such a better person. etc.

      Fact there will always be unemployed. There are too many people for the jobs available so you will always have surplus. Secondly it is not the government’s fault. Private enterprise is the main employer not government. So governments can pass all the requirements and anti discrimination they like but unless they hire the unemployed themselves or sit in on the job interview their influence is negligible. Fat people simply respond to their set point. The human body is designed to keep constant, i.e. temperature, cell renewal etc. Weight is the same. If a skinny person eats a lot their metabolism speeds up to keep them skinny. If a fat person eats less they will have their metabolism slow.

      So the real structure questions of how we improve our economy to have more working people or why peoples natural set points get so stuffed up have not yet been really attempted to be answered. That would require coherent thought and logic. Far easier just to heap blame on the victim. After all none of those hideous conditions could ever happen to you could it?

      (PS I’m neither unemployed nor fat. )

    • Knemon says:

      01:49pm | 23/05/11

      I wonder which department the person in the accompanying picture to this article works for? I’m guessing a commonwealth public servant, could be state but I doubt it, looks far too smart!!

    • AliceC says:

      03:48pm | 23/05/11

      It’s the ‘computer says no’ character from Little BRitain, works as a travel agent.

    • Al says:

      04:44pm | 23/05/11

      As someone who’s worked for himself, for literally bugger all, having a job where you get a regular income is just great. If yo’re in a job you don’t like, change! It’s easier than you think. I had my time on the dole, thanks to Jeff Kennet when no one wanted tradesmen, but then I made my own job. I went to Thailand on a holiday and their system is brilliant! No welfare,ie, no dole, no pensions, nothing! There’s a job for you if you want one, but the motto is “No work, no eat’! Most people eat. They are resourceful, they make things, they grow things and sell at markets, we’ve lost that ability to fend for ourselves because of welfare. I’m due to retire in 2 years and I have next to no super, but I have a plan, I can work as long as I want and after that, when I’m about 70, I’ll go on the pension and supplement it by making and growing things and selling them at markets. Get Australians off their arses, picking fruit and all the other stuff that we rely on backpackers to do and not only will the workers benefit, but so will all Australians by reducing the welfare bill.

    • ?? says:

      06:00pm | 23/05/11

      just back from europe. in my birth country, the dole runs out after 6 months. no baby or family bonus’s and pensions are only good, if you’ve put the hard work in for years. i like it this system. get on with it or you know the alternative. whats with all this freebie cash this govt hands out here in aust?? no wonder we have people that don’t put an effort in. why should you?? someone will pick the flat up for you, anyway.

    • Bazza says:

      05:43pm | 23/05/11

      1.  Work or dole shd. not be at the option of punters.
      2.  Don’t pay benefits to anyone who leaves a job because they don’t like it. 
      3. Review all disability payments.
      4. Following which review taxation rates with a view to reduction and encouraging self reliance.
      5. Encourage Emma not to be quite so earnest

    • St. Michael says:

      10:09pm | 23/05/11

      Interestingly, this article focuses on the unemployed and the employed, but does not mention the self-employed.

      Seems to me, if you set it up right with the right niche and suffering neither an oligopoly of suppliers or customers (i.e. one large supermarket chain can’t wipe you out by refusing to buy your widgets) it’s the only sort of employment where you are notionally free.

      Why no mention of the third option? Would it have anything to do with the very low response rate to small business articles on the blog?

 

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