The numbers have been crunched, the stakeholders consulted; various other horrendous corporate jargon terms have been deployed, and now The Punch is ready to announce the results of a SWOT analysis of the Rudd government’s electoral standing.

Strengths from the Punch reader SWOT analysis

With the SWOT being such a common feature of modern workplaces we decided to capture the findings and plot them on a range of horizontal and vertical scales, before looping them back into a synthesised range of go-forward options that would allow Kevin Rudd to build a sustainable advantage and capture sufficient political market share to gain the upper hand come polling day.

Or rather, here’s what Punch readers think Kevin Rudd needs to do: Push Julia Gillard to the forefront, focus on health and the economy, settle the row over the mining tax and run a scare campaign about a “son of WorkChoices” industrial regime.

Oh, and there’s a left-field suggestion that Rudd should pray Malcolm Turnbull doesn’t make a comeback.

After disastrous polls for Kevin Rudd at the start of the week, Punch readers were asked put on their Labor strategist hats and list the government’s Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, and Threats. There were brutal assessments of the weaknesses but equally frank commentary on Rudd’s significant strengths.

Online word-counting graphic tool Wordle does an excellent job of summarising the thrust of the responses. Despite the polls and Rudd’s unquestionable political malaise the exercise produced a stack of reminders that people see a range of themes Labor can build on to retain power.

Reading through the responses and you’ll see readers who noted these strengths were also scathing about other aspects of the government’s performance. Rudd himself featured prominently as a weakness.

(Before collating the results some of the spurious but entertaining contributions that made it into the thread were removed, like Grassy Knollington’s which listed as a strength “earwax eating”, and as a weakness, “giving Peter Garrett responsibility for anything”. There was also Tony H. “Strength: 50% of the population are above average intelligence. Weakness: 50% of the population are below average intelligence.”)

The resulting graphics only captures recurring themes and not the specifics, though some of the more interesting suggestions are outlined below.

The strengths are listed in the first graphic at the top of this piece and it shows despite the long list of problems the government is facing in other areas, including the mining tax, its economic record is seen as its key strength.

“The stimulus package and the fact that we were kept out of a recession,” said reader Chris of the government’s strengths. “Who knows if the stimulus package was even the reason, but it is one thing that hasn’t been a total disaster and Labor should remind the voters.”

Strength on the economy is followed closely by health, a more natural fit for Labor. The name that kept cropping up in this column was Rudd’s deputy Julia Gillard, who has been the subject of increasing speculation that her horizon for a leadership tilt is no longer in the distant future.

The list of weaknesses almost crashed Wordle as it tried to fit in all the mentions of Rudd, and he needs a space all of his own in the word chart. This is partly a factor of how people discussed Rudd’s problems but is nonetheless a reflection of how heavily the party’s problems are pinned on the Prime Minister.

Weaknesses

The home insulation debacle looms as a major liability, as does a perception that Rudd reverses positions, largely associated with the ETS.

And then there’s the mining tax. Given Rudd has staked the country’s fiscal future on its introduction a successful outcome to the current negotiations with the industry is critical to avoid undermining the government’s standing on its economic stewardship.

Much of the input on the weaknesses column was interesting but the tone from Punch regular Bitten is fairly representative:

ETS arse about + Copenhagen’s big moment that just didn’t happen.  Perception that BER = nose-in-trough. Lag in health reform (a previous election platform). Apology to the indigenous accompanied by f* all change in life expectancy, living conditions, income per capita etc … Insulation scheme debacle. Poor handling of Henry review and appalling policy handling of mining profits tax (will we consult, won’t we consult, what is the exact policy again - fellas, make up your minds!)

But there was also this, from Bronco2010, a good sample of some of the insights captured in the survey:

The biggest weaknesses in my view is the continued failings on very public and large scale policy initiatives.  The government is not good at managing the implementation of these policies, nor damage control when they go wrong which leaves the leadership red faced and constantly on the back foot trying to gain a positive foothold to go forward on - very hard to do whilst also trying to defend major policy backflips.  The prime minister also, the more people get to know him, seems more and more detached from reality and real Australians, perception and support for him has subsequently dropped - Julia Gillard now would seem a more down to earth and in touch leadership option.

When it comes to opportunities, the messages are mixed. The two main recurring themes were Tony Abbott and WorkChoices, with respondents suggesting the government run could scare campaigns about both.

Opportunities

There was this, from Andrew: “No credible opposition at the moment. Many people I talk to don’t want Abbott as the leader of this country (probably the ONE thing that will get Rudd back in), and this is from life long Liberal voters.”

Finally, to the threats. Abbott’s ascendancy was recognised, with many contributors saying the opposition could be a threat depending on its performance.

Threats

The Greens, too, were noted by many as a potential threat following their surge in support in this week’s polls.

As a sample quote on the threats, there was this from Punch regular papachango.

asylum seeker numbers massively increasing, climate not getting as hot as its supposed to, more BER and insulation scandals appearing, pushback on the mining tax, and Internet censorship. The Liberals getting their act together and actually being liberal - e.g. by opposing Internet censorship. The Greens attracting more of the inner city left wing vote. NBN when it turns out to be a complete dog.

Ousted Liberal leader Malcolm Turnbull was repeatedly mentioned by some mischievous contributors as a threat to Rudd, on the grounds that the Liberals could be a much more viable alternative were he to make the unlikeliest of comebacks.

So there it is. Thanks for the mindshare. Now if everybody has their action points lined up against deliverables it’s time to get into the pre-planning phase and think about how to leverage the synergies.

Punch on.

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    • Eric says:

      06:08am | 09/06/10

      So is The Punch now officially an advisor to the Labor Party’s campaign? Or will we have a SWOT for the Coalition as well?

    • Phil says:

      08:23am | 09/06/10

      Here, Here. It shows the authors bias towards labor, after all they need all the help they can get.
      Perhaps Hawker Britton bought them all lunch at a flash restaurant…
      Any comments designed to question the authors here are not published anyway, either that or Conroys filter is already up and running?

    • shabangabang says:

      09:04am | 09/06/10

      Anybody thinking Murdoch media is anything but right wing biased is a fool. Now, with thanks to your opinions, it is apparent that right wing followers oppose the publication of anything they disagree with.

    • dovif says:

      01:41pm | 09/06/10

      Eric

      imaging if Howard had called the Chinese “Rat F**kers” in Copenhagen, There will be calls for him to resign straight the way. He would be called racist and it would be front page news

      If anything, the press is biase toward the ALP, the fact that the press are reporting the many ALP stuff ups is not biase, it is the facts

    • Mr Subramanian says:

      01:43pm | 09/06/10

      And one for the Greens! And the Liberals on their own! And one for the Nationals too. Are the Democrats too far gone to have one done for them too? Pleeeease? Pretty please?

    • WayneT says:

      02:33pm | 09/06/10

      I wouldn’t worry too much about it.  If Labor pay as much attention to this exercise as they did to the 20/20 ideas fest, then they are unlikely to gain anything from this.

    • Eric says:

      06:42pm | 09/06/10

      Shabangabang, thanks to your opinions, it is apparent that left wing followers simply make up stuff.

      Where did I say I oppose the publication of anything? I merely asked if equal time was to be given to the opposition.

    • JC says:

      08:41am | 10/06/10

      Dammit Phil. It’s ‘hear hear’ not ‘here here’! It relates to listening, not saying where you are! As for this article suggesting political bias, I think anyone with a better grasp of English could see how absurd that claim is!

    • PatC says:

      06:44am | 09/06/10

      Thanks for the article - excellent read . Bit scary though - our organisation has a crop of BYTs (Bright Young Things) who actually talk like that.

    • dead to me says:

      07:05am | 09/06/10

      It doesn’t matter what Rudd does now, it is what he will do after the election that counts. Trying to get Rudd a victory doesn’t gurantee he will serve this country well afterwards. Rudd had his chance, a great chance and blew it. I’m not willing to take a risk. Abbott just needs to remind people of all the mistakes and failed policy Mr Rudd has been responsible for.

    • Jacki says:

      07:46am | 09/06/10

      @dead
      I agree with you.
      As for the debate between Rudd and Abbott, Abbott brought up all he mistakes Labor had made, Rudd said he was being negative!!!!!
      Rudd will not take account for all his mistakes.
      The ETS was taken back without speaking to Peter Garrett, he read it in the papers.
      This man is a liar, swears at his staff, did not apologise to the parents of the four boys who died with the installation debacle. They had notice before that was introuced and took no notice. It will now cost the taxpayers millions of dollars to pay the worthy installers.
      Maybe he will also back down on the mining tax??

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      09:21am | 09/06/10

      dead to me :  absolutely correct. !  Prime Minister Rudd had his chance , was handed an economy in excellent shape , on a silver platter , then destroyed everything in one short term . No second chances for this failed P.M.
      Dead To Me reflects the view of many disillusioned voters in saying :
                          ” I’m not willing to take a risk. “
      Quite right , three years is a long time to continue the damage this failed government has been responsible for.

    • Troy says:

      09:46am | 09/06/10

      You are spot on, Rudd has lost the voters that put him in, and its all his own doing. Abbott now has a huge chance of a sweeping Liberal victory if he can just sell himself as PM material. Abbott has allot of flaws but he is honest and I believe he will have a stable Government. I also believe he knows his limitation and will delegate responsibilities where required. I make no bones about believing he will be the best PM this country has ever seen. But I do believe he will try and fix the mess that has been left behind after Labor, and beside how could we get any worse than KRudd. He is an embarrassment to this country, and a huge disappointment to all those who really believed in him.

    • Brad Coward says:

      11:14am | 09/06/10

      Charisma was Rudd’s greatest asset during the 2007 campaign and for most of the past two and half years.

      Charisma tends to mask ability, and when one is finally seen to be lacking in ability….well, you know where you can shove the charisma !

    • Evan Findlay says:

      05:14pm | 09/06/10

      Dead to me,

      What chance! Mr Rudd and the Labor party had to deal with a global recession not of their making. If they were not preoccupied with keeping the economy on track and keeping you in a job they may have had a better opportunity at implementing their original policies. The insulation scheme wasn’t even their policy, it was the Liberals. BER was not an election pledge, $900 cash splashes was not in their election promises but put in the situation they were and the advise they received from treasury soon put their election pledges on the back burner whilst they dealt with the problem at hand.

      And as for for Abbott, the Australian electorate has already witnessed all of his mistakes.

    • acker says:

      07:51am | 09/06/10

      I noticed the only time the name Rudd wasn’t in real big letters was in the Strengths category, where the names Julia & Gillard were in bigger letters. I also notice that Mining and ETS were not very prominent, might they be issues being overhyped by the media ?

    • Nuggs says:

      08:15am | 10/06/10

      Please note, words like ALSO and TRY are included in these graphics. Puts the size of some of these bigger issues into a bit of a better perspective. And no, I don’t think that K.Rudd’s mining debacle is overstated. And the ETS was a laugh fest anyway.

    • John J says:

      07:57am | 09/06/10

      They have made some mistakes but Abbott is a far more scary outlook for Australia, no government is perfect in first term especially when they had to deal with the GFC

    • acker says:

      08:33am | 09/06/10

      It was a lot easier for the Rudd government to deal with the GST from a position where the nation was debt free and had a surplus budget, compared to the US, UK and most of Europe that were in deficit and in heaps of debt..

    • Peter says:

      08:50am | 09/06/10

      John this government has shown itself to be incompetent in all areas,nothing to do with the GFC.We have seen the damage done in NSW by a Labor government that is still holding the reins because of people such as yourself that keep voting them in even when they have proved themselves to be dysfunctional.Abbott may not be the best candidate for PM but if Rudd doesn’t go things are going to get a lot more scary then you think.

    • Troy says:

      09:52am | 09/06/10

      John you would really have to not care about Australias future to believe what you have written. Rudd has failed in all areas, in fact I cant think of one sucess in the last 3 years. Surely even die hard Laborites can see this. This country simply can not afford a Government to fail in every single area for another 3 years. But I dont think you will have to worry about voting for KRudd again, as I believe the Labor party will sack him before the next election and Gillard will be the Labor leader.

    • Brad Coward says:

      11:19am | 09/06/10

      John J…you are absolutely right.  No government is perfect during it’s first term.  But given the fact that this government has been so Goddamn useless…..how long do you wish to grant it to become even slightly OK ?

      I mean to say….if it was a racehorse it would have been sent to the knackery and turned into a tin of dogfood by now !  How many starts do you give the horse only to see it finish in last place before you decide that the horse just isn’t worth the price of the entry fee ?

    • Mark says:

      12:41pm | 09/06/10

      Made some mistake? Thats a bit like calling the BP oil leak a minor spill.

    • Sherekahn says:

      08:08am | 09/06/10

      It is a bit late now I know, however, everyone knows the “stimulus” was rushed.
      Rudd could have won a double whammy if he had insisted that all roof insulation to be subsidised was to be Australian Wool from Australian farmers!
      If they restart the program, this would gain some stars.

    • casba says:

      08:16am | 09/06/10

      Very disappointing Punch! I agree with Eric that you have most definitely become the unofficial campaign managers for the Labor re-election campaign. I have always laboured under the delusion that that was the sole “reason d’etre” for the ABC but I now I am not so sure.

    • Old Clive says:

      08:20am | 09/06/10

      It would appear that the BYT’s are the mob that put this nerd into power, that is not surprising because we older people are looked upon as dinosaurs and hopeless. I will remind the BYT’s that once we were warriors and BYT’s ourselves but we learnt from our mistakes and are humble enough to admit it, I hope for this country’s sake that they will do the same.

    • Robert Smissen , rural SA says:

      12:09pm | 09/06/10

      The trouble with BYTs is they aren’t old enough to remember “the resession that we had to have” or Keating’s 96 Billion $ debt

    • Tory Maguire

      Tory Maguire says:

      08:22am | 09/06/10

      You know you’re doing something right when one day you’re a Liberal stooge and the next a front for the ALP… it’s hard to keep up sometimes.

    • OldGirl says:

      09:03am | 09/06/10

      Tory, you and The Punch team do a good job love, I come in and it seems to me to be all Liberal posting but every coin has 2 sides and both sides should be shown if there is to be balance. Most adults understand, that to be fair, all agendas should be covered. See you on Foxtel

    • Mick says:

      09:04am | 09/06/10

      “It’s time to get into the pre-planning phase and think about how to leverage the synergies”.)I think Paul has shown his true colors and is trying to rally the troops.

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      09:34am | 09/06/10

      Well , i agree with you Tory , because sometimes i read these columns and think ” wow ! this is a Labor hotbed. ! ” but the very next day i’m smiling and thinking ” gee , punch are onside with us Libbos. !  “
      Obviously that is the nature of human interest in anything at all , diversity and current attitude to whatever is going down , particularly politics. Best wishes Tory.

    • obviously related to tv host says:

      09:40am | 09/06/10

      Dont worry,just keep admiring yourself and being smug

    • What's fair says:

      11:07am | 09/06/10

      The good news is that today you can become the Liberal stooge by posting a SWOT analysis for the Coalition.

      Don’t let yourself be troubled by name calling.  Between your breadth of columnists and addicts I mean commenters you generally represent the whole political spectrum.

    • luke09 says:

      12:58pm | 09/06/10

      The swot analysis is not bias towards labor, it is pointing out where they are struggling and where they are succeeding. The obvious conclusion is Rudd is definately a weak link.

    • DaveinPerth says:

      10:16pm | 09/06/10

      @Tory
      Methinks Al Jazeera had the same problem during Gulf War MkII.  Derided as Oppo Media (and shot at) by both the Republican Guard and Marines alike.  They must have been somewhere near the truth.

    • Nicole says:

      08:52am | 09/06/10

      There is no way that Rudd can win the election. Anyone remotely considering voting the numpty back in, seriously needs their head examined. He’s already done so much damage to this Country, why in Gods name would anyone want him back? It’s beyond me. He can’t win, I’m sure of it. If he does, I’ll bare my ass up and down Oxford Street!

    • Brad Coward says:

      12:03pm | 09/06/10

      Nicole, don’t forget that Rudd got through on the strength of votes received from the mentally feeble last time.

      Is that what they mean when someone is described as a “committed” supporter ?

    • persephone says:

      12:08pm | 09/06/10

      It’ll be cold, Nicole….are you sure you want to go there?

    • Robert Smissen , rural SA says:

      12:13pm | 09/06/10

      Nicole I think your bum is safe! ! !

    • Nicole says:

      12:55pm | 09/06/10

      @Brad, committed supporter, hmmm, I think so.

      @Pers, I won’t have to worry about that, I have every belief that Mr Rudd won’t win. * Insert extremely nervous look *

    • Nicole says:

      02:57pm | 09/06/10

      Thank’s Robert. I’m glad you have faith too.

    • Chris L says:

      06:44pm | 09/06/10

      Brad, don’t forget those “mentally feeble” people voted Howard in for three terms.

    • persephone says:

      06:51pm | 09/06/10

      I’m going to start knitting you an ass cosy, Nicole.

      That demonstrates a lot of faith on my part, because I’ll have to learn to knit.

    • Nicole says:

      10:16am | 10/06/10

      Awww thanks Pers. I won’t need it though, but I’ll be a really special keepsake smile

    • rm52 says:

      09:35am | 09/06/10

      can we have an election please , lets get it sorted one way or the other . the party that pledges to get our troops home from Afganistan asap has not only my vote but my heartfelt thanks. 2 more dead troopers, enough is enough !!!

    • Saskia says:

      09:54am | 09/06/10

      Most of don’t want to give any help the ALP.  We want them removed ASAP.

      They have been the worst govt in a lifetime and daily there is another train wreck.

      Their two biggest problems are 1. their socialistic, big govt, nanny state, PC, creed of spite and envy philosphy and 2. their people - they simply do not have any real world experience in business or general life and are lacking in professional (especially financial and commerce) qualifications - they are run by Union hacks and career public servant nerds.

      Bring on the election now.

    • iReporter says:

      09:31pm | 09/06/10

      Thankyou Saskia,
      what you said is 100% true
      i think & i hope that Mr. Rudd is one term PM.

    • Bitten says:

      10:05am | 09/06/10

      I think Tony H’s comment has been paraphrased in error:

      Tony H says:03:53pm | 07/06/10

      Strengths: 50% of people are of below average intelligence

      Weakness: 50% of people are of above average intelligence

    • Faery04 says:

      10:15am | 09/06/10

      There aren’t many things Rudd and his government haven’t stuffed - ETS, home insulation, schools building program, MSPT, health reform without the reform, paid paternity leave that doesn’t actually provide leave.  However, despite all the debacles, backflips and ineptitude I think would rather put up with this government for another term than face the prospect of Abbott as PM. 
      When your choice at the ballot box comes down to who is the least worst leader a protest vote for the Greens begins to look very appealing.

    • Robert Smissen , rural SA says:

      12:17pm | 09/06/10

      Faery04 Tony Abbott is a far better bet than Little Kevvy any day. A vote for the Greens is a vote for Kevvy, too scary to contemplate! ! !

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      12:45pm | 09/06/10

      Fairy04 :  No Thanks !  Greens betray their own principles .  Look at the last Qld. state election . They preferenced Labor , the party which was committed to the Traveston Crossing Dam Project , and Labor won office on those preferences .
      When the Greens are prepared to accept the flooding of the Mary Valley ,
      their credibility is shot to pieces.  What a farcical name for a party , that is interested only in returning Labor to office in any sphere.

    • WayneT says:

      02:49pm | 09/06/10

      Why is about the captain of the team than about the team.  We seem to get focused on who will be PM than what a particular party may be able to achieve.  Someone like Abbott is less likely to be a dictator within his party as he only just scraped in as leader, where as Rudd was overwhelmingly endorsed by his party and therefore felt as though he had a mandate to take greater control of affairs, hence the lack of consultation with his own ministers.  So let’s try and focus on the team and not the man.

    • Chris L says:

      06:46pm | 09/06/10

      Abbot didn’t consult over his plan for maternity leave. Mind you, it wasn’t written down.

    • dancan says:

      10:21am | 09/06/10

      I think labour would be surprised by the swing in support if they just came out and said something along the lines of,

      We’ve been in power for four years, we have made a number of mistakes during this time and some of our programs failed.  But we have learnt from these failures and taking this experience have put together this plan for the following four years, with the long term goal of this plan over an eight year period.”

      If they then backed this speech up with just a solid plan and not something that hinges on the success of a tax, people would vote them back in.

      On the flip side if the liberals did the same thing they’d be voted in without a doubt.

    • antiperspirant says:

      01:57pm | 09/06/10

      They already did a mea culpa once.

      Krudd admitted his mistakes said sorry (sigh) and then how hard he would work to do it right “roll up the shirtsleeves” and all that bullshit.

      Now you think he can do it again?

      He would be eaten alive but it would look funny.

      Australians hate bullshit artists.

      Rudd = bullshit artist

      When you combine weakness with bullshit and serve it up in the guise of a pollie once exposed he is terminal. The only thing remotley close to Rudd now would be a used car salesman in the trust stakes poll.

    • John says:

      10:27am | 09/06/10

      Now this sounds like a rerun of of the Whitlam era.

      Why are conservative people so afraid of big ideas.

      How well would we be positioned if we had followed through on the simple vision of processing steel using our abundant natural gas and iron ore reserves. Ridiculously we ship both to China to prop up a communist regime and at great disadvantage to our sovereignty.

      Now that is sovereign risk. That is the outcry we should here from the press. Not the cods wallop we see published in the self interest of other sovereignties and non sovereign individuals. .

      Lets have another great public hanging of the visionaries and the doers. Lets burn the books. Lets appeal to the lowest common denominator. Lets bury ourselves in xenophobia. Lets condemn ourselves to mediocrity at best. Lets dig another hole and not worry about the future of this sovereignty. Nor the sovereignty of the climate.

      Who gained from the last public hangings. Not this sovereignty..

    • Mark says:

      12:57pm | 09/06/10

      John, I’m not afraid of big ideas. I’m afraid of governments that lack the ability to manage the smallest of ideas that then produce potentially catastrophic results when they try to implement big ideas. The ineptitude of this government is unprecedented. You may think Rudd is a visionary but he and his government are certainly not doers.

      You are also misguided on why we export our resources. Our cost of labour makes us uncompetitive to produce steel to export. I’m happy with the money and standard of living I have here in Australia so I don’t want to see that change, but I also realise a price of this quality of life we share is we cannot competitively manufacture against many countries. Or would you rather we produced steel and had the government subsidise the losses? That would really do great things for our sovereign risk!

    • John says:

      05:34pm | 10/06/10

      Mark,

      To the contrary they have in fact done much in a short time and for the good of this nation. However you would need to open your mind to see it and that unfortunately doesn’t fit with a closed conservative mind.

      And for the record the best steel made anywhere in the world is made here in Australia. And it is not a labour intensive exercise.

      But for the sake of your “just dig another hole and hang the consequence”, lets not do anything productive. Lets just live on credit from the hole in the ground bank. Lets forget the future. Lets kid ourselves ... we deserve it after all and lets not realise anything but mediocrity. And that my friend is because you are a conservative in vision and there is no risk for you in that. And that plays well for the rapacious, non sovereign vested interest who leverage your closed mind.

      And so I don’t follow your argument. Which argument by the way doesn’t respond to my proposition that we would be a much more powerful sovereignty had we not run scared of the non sovereign vested interest at the time.

      And to raise subsidies as a defence is just as dumb. You would have us subsidise the greedy Twiggy, Gina, Clive and the multinationals instead. ...What?

      Watch out for big ideas.. they will be scary for you .. because of your conservative nature. But if you were a true conservative you might not want to dig as many holes either.

    • iansand says:

      10:30am | 09/06/10

      You only need to read the comments here to be absolutely certain that this survey is meaningless.  The clientele of The Punch are hardly a balanced sample.

    • Andrew says:

      12:49pm | 09/06/10

      I resent that comment, I believe my hatred of the Labor Government is fairly balanced on the other hand with my complete lack of respect for the Greens.

    • Daniel says:

      10:30am | 09/06/10

      I like that. Really interesting stuff. Im wondering why NSW is not a bigger issue? Im hoping Keneally doesnt get back in with her band of NSW Labor deadwood.

    • Brad Coward says:

      11:35am | 09/06/10

      The Rudd government reminds me of this young married couple that I knew around twenty years back.

      Each week, hubby dutifully handed over his paypacket to his good wife.  She was in charge of paying the bills, do the banking and buying the groceries, etc.

      They were forever receiving overdue notices from those that they owed money to.  When hubby would help to put away the groceries he would find that his wife had spent more money on fridge magnets and the suchlike than she had on food.  A trip to the ATM generally resulted in him receiving a slip indicating insuffient funds.

      He filed for a divorce after two years of marriage.  Mr Rudd, this country owes way too much, there’s little to get excited about in the joint account and there’s bugger all in the pantry.

      You are on notice.  I have filed for divorce and hope to receive the decree nisi come election night !  It’s a travesty that you personally will get to walk away with so much community property that I will help to fund for the rest of your life.

    • acker says:

      12:13pm | 09/06/10

      @Brad Coward says { A trip to the ATM generally resulted in him receiving a slip indicating insuffient funds }
      Tad dramatic Brad but probably would be very relevent to UK, Spain and Greece

    • Graham says:

      01:23pm | 09/06/10

      Very similar Brad to another married couple I know however when they retired she presented hubby with a bank account worth $500,000. Apparently she charged him for sex @ $60.00 during their 45 year marriage. They were divorced when hubby said that there would have been more in the account had he given her all his businesss

    • dovif says:

      05:12pm | 09/06/10

      ackers
      Not so dramatic
      The British parliament had been controlled by the Labour party
      The Spanish parliament had been controlled by the Spanish Socialist Workers party

      Both big spending left winged parties

      While the Greeks just does not like paying tax

    • S.L says:

      11:54am | 09/06/10

      Love him or hate him Kevin Rudd does not enjoy a simpathetic press like John Howard and Peter Costello did.
      While our former treasurer was praised from pillar to post by conservative commentators when it came time for him leave politics and look for a job in the private sector the only offer was from Mr Rudd! What does that say about his reputation in the business comunity?
      Even today at a state level the NSW budget has shown we are in surplus which is sending the same conservative commentators into disbelief. No praise from those guys!
      I can imagine Mr Swan would get the same reaction if he were to deliver the same news. Then again “Mr Popularity” Paul Keating jagged a win against the odds!

    • Supercars says:

      12:05pm | 09/06/10

      Fair shake of the sauce bottle S.L. The media’s been in love with KRudd till he jilted them when he abandoned his great moral challenge. You can’t call David Marr a conservative commentator, but even he is now exposing Rudd for the fraud he is!

    • antiperspirant says:

      01:59pm | 09/06/10

      “Even today at a state level the NSW budget has shown we are in surplus which is sending the same conservative commentators into disbelief. No praise from those guys!”

      This is gold.

      Are you seriously giving credit to the NSW Labor government?

      Are you saying they are good?

    • Old Clive says:

      03:26pm | 09/06/10

      I think they use SIM cards in phones, mobile ones that is, I hope rudd is mobile too, right out of politics altogether, let him manage his wifes business, she wouldn’t even take his name on.

    • S.L says:

      06:15pm | 09/06/10

      @ Supercars unfortunately I don’t know David Marr but I do know Andrew Bolt, Piers Ackerman, Alan Jones and Ray Hadley. They have all been in election mode since returning from christmas holidays.
      @antiperspirant I didn’t say NSW Labor were good but the reaction from Mr Hadley was quite funny in a “I don’t believe it!” sense. The fact is NSW IS in surplus so that’s the gold for me.

    • Brad Coward says:

      12:07pm | 09/06/10

      This scenario reminds me of the joke about the old lady who has just paid a visit to the doctor.

      She walks in and says to her husband, “the doctor tells me that I have the body of a twenty year old woman”.

      Her husband replies, “then give it back before you do any further damage to it” !

    • Sasha Jamieson says:

      12:20pm | 09/06/10

      What would be a brilliant experiment would be to split Australia in half and have one half run by Liberals and the other by the ALP and people to move where they were aligned.

      Within months the Liberals would have to have patrols on their borders and coast to stop the thousands trying to flee ALP land for more opportunity, liberty, money and less crime - not to mention the much hotter women.

      I’d love it if WA, SA and the NT could secede and form a new Country run by go-getters and business minded people.  Let NSW rot in crime and bad govt, the Vics with their love of the ALP and the Unions, and Qld’rs can have Kevin and Pauline.

    • Victor H Pigott says:

      03:11pm | 09/06/10

      As the alternative is Socialist Labor, quite frankly I don’t care who is the leader of the Liberal party.  In my view it is the ideology of the current Labor Government that has proven itself to be the most dangerous Government in the history of Australian politics.  This ideology is demonstrated by Senator Conway’s vision of Government control of the Internet. and Julia Gillard’s vision of Government control over Education The arguments are well known and don’t need to be revisited here,  If readers are truly interested to know the Government’s ideology then I suggest they do a Google search on such names as “Karl Marx”, Vladimir Lenin and the Fabian Society.  Contemporary Labor is not about class war (despite the recent propaganda on the mining tax) it is about social control and the eradication of individuality. The model is demonstrated in the last 16 years of Government in NSW where individual rights and the Rule of Law have been slowly removed. While the list is endless, some notable changes include the following: decisions are increasingly made by Government administrators with no appeal rights, the right to a de novo appeal from local to district court has been removed,  increased police powers, increased inquisitorial Government Tribunals where the rules of evidence do not apply, increased political involvement in the judicial arm of Government and natural justice provisions removed (e.g. a one way Victims Compensation Tribunal where taxpayers money is dolled out on paper hearings in which nominated defendants are not a party; many planning decisions where local councils and individual citizens have no rights including right of appeal, confidential information can be revealed by the crown without the defense being present such as in the Bikie legislation) , the onus of proof has been reversed in domestic violence legislation and major common law safeguards have been removed in District Court trials. Irish Socialists historically don’t like English common law and it certainly shows in NSW Politics.  If citizens want greater government of their lives than by all means vote Labor.  This is not the Labor Government of “Doc” Evert or Ben Chiefly, but the Labor Government of Kevin Rudd and Julia Gilliard.

    • BLC says:

      04:03pm | 09/06/10

      What a shame all the redneck, right wing, negative ill informed know alls rush to these forums to vent their narrow opinions.
      May I remind you how unpopular Mr Howard was after his 1st team.
      Running a new government is a big task, some think they can do wonders, reallity is it is full of frustrasions and difficult decisions.
      Mistakes and lies happen in all walks of life, even politics.
      Maybe a step back and a deep breath may help the “Haters” enjoy life better, not everything that goes wrong in our lives is the Leaders of our Governments fault.
      Like the parents of all those unruly teenagers, we need to take some responsibility for a lot of the mess around us.
      When you read the comments of some of the writers here you see how easily they blame everyone else but themselves for the lives they have.

    • Graham S says:

      04:54pm | 09/06/10

      To true BLC, If you remember, John Howard wore a bullet proof vest when addressing shooters following the Port Arthur horror during his 1st term ? Haven’t seen KRudd wearing one even when dealing with Qld & WA red-necks

    • Hamish says:

      05:01pm | 09/06/10

      BLC,

      I think most ‘redneck’ right-wingers are happy to take personal responsibility for their lives. It’s the abrogation of personal responsibility which is promoted by the Union Party that they don’t like.

      You’re right about Howard. He was very unpopular towards the end of his first term, but austerity measures aren’t generally popular even when you are in almost $100 billion worth of debt. He inherited a shocking fiscal position which he fixed amazingly quickly. Rudd inherited the strongest fiscal position of any western government and has quickly set about undermining it.

      I’m a happy person who enjoys life and takes responsibility for my actions. I ask you to make K Rudd responsible for his and put the incompetent narcissist out of his misery at the next election (if the Labor Party don’t get to him first).

    • BLC says:

      09:15am | 10/06/10

      Thanks Hamish for your comments, I rest my case.
      We still are in a strong position, been to Europe lately.?
      Dont keep looking back, it is the past, keep looking forward with your positive outlook on life Hamish.
      Enjoyed the comments, $100 billion of Debt, the caring way he paid it off is what we are paying for now in catch up, lack of spending on infrastructure over 12 years, is costing us all now..
      Such personel attacks on one person, as if it is ALL his fault, please share the blame, some CEO’s are a lot worse than the poor untrained politicions who stumble through the job, some good some bad, on all sides Hamish.
      Cheers.

    • Against the Man says:

      05:42pm | 09/06/10

      Many people I know who were proud to have voted for Rudd in ‘07 won’t even look me in the eyes when we discuss politics these days. They are ashamed to have elected this country’s worst prime minister. Being the worst is a tough task and good ol’ ruddy the millionaire PM has done a good job at it. I wonder how much lower he can sink if voted in again?

    • DaveinPerth says:

      10:01pm | 09/06/10

      @ATM
      I voted for KevOhSev.  Glad I did.  Proud of it. 
      As much as Joe Hockey complains about this and that, if the Libs were in power they’d have been tied up in the same knots over the GFC, and they’d be doing much the same stuff.  Hockey has admitted as much.  When journo’s actually take him to task on the stimulus packages, he admits that they’d be doing the same sorts of things.(But they’d be doing it more efficiently. Apparently.) 

      It’s not yet safe for Joe to come out on the side of ‘too much’ or ‘too little’, so he’s just saying “You’re doing it wrong!”.

      The reason for that is that nobody knows what’s going to happen next.  Is the Euro going to implode, killing China, which will kill commodity prices, which will shoot unemployment rates thru the roof ?  Or is the US about to rattle off a string of great non-farm payroll numbers, causing commodity stockspiles to shrink, prices to spike, and Aus interest rates to hike up?

      Or another of 500 different scenarios, some thought of, some unknown. (Exodus from Sovereign Debt of Japan, UK, Spain, Portugal, etc.  Dirty bomb in Central Park.  REAL nuke in Seoul. Social unrest and economic dislocation in China. Who know’s what’s around the corner? )

      Keeping a ‘steady hand on the tiller’ requires some BIG inputs when the world goes over Niagra Falls.

      Are the Labour team a bunch of rookies ? Yep, I think so.

      But the alternative is a bunch of rookies, interspersed with the occasional, um…., how could you categorise Abbott or Joyce ?? Maybe Lightweights would be the kindest word?
      If the choice is going to be Abbott vs Krudd, I will be voting for Kev again.
      Easy choice.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:47am | 10/06/10

      Thats OK Dave, I know at least 70 other people who have changed their mind against kevin’07 and if the polls keep going the way they are and kevin keeps screwing up he does, we may just get a great anti-kevin poll result. Have a great week ahead! smile

    • David says:

      05:57pm | 09/06/10

      If Abbott was given the same amount of positive media coverage that Rudd had in his extended honeymoon he would also enjoy the same sky high popularity ratings that Rudd had. The media has never done this. They never will. It has nothing to do with Abbott as an individual and everything to do with a certain bias in the media. This made a certain ABC interviewer even more remarkable when he had a shot at Rudd. Perhaps it is time for media to at least give equal positive coverage to a man who at least is honest enough to admit that, as a politician, he sometimes lies. He has some other decent characteristics as well - and they also get lampooned by the media. Nobody seems to mind that - and they seem to think that it is fair for Rudd to now denigrate him still further instead of considering his own position. Time for a change of media tune I think.

    • jed says:

      09:03pm | 09/06/10

      i can’t believe you punch people aren’t covering community cabinet. wow this is cringe worthy stuff. is rudd even human? did someone program him to start calling everyone nicknames? ‘albo’, ‘swanny’ and ‘pete’. the insincerity is grating.

    • nosthow says:

      09:55pm | 09/06/10

      What a farcical situation we saw today with the Mining bosses (Twiggy the billionaire) and co satging a stand-up protest against Rudd whilst he was over in Perth. And with their “rent a crowd”. Gina Hancock the billionairess crying poor - honestly wake up Australia these people are using people to achieve their aim of not having to pay any extra tax and go on their merry way of getting richer and richer. What greedy selfish people who will quickly discard all the people who are now helping them whenever they choose. Fools !

    • Sirro says:

      01:32am | 10/06/10

      Rudd is gone. People no longer listen to him or believe him.

      One policy failure or a few dumb ministers they can live with. But the never ending demands for change (much of it for changes’ sake or for seemingly ideological reasons) has left the populace numb. They are not listening to Rudd. Same happened to Howard in the last year or two.

      Labor wont do it but their only hope is to give Gillard the job and get rid of Rudd. He has a dicky ticker and that would be a great excuse (minor heart attack should do it). Gillard is far more credible right now and would prob help Labor sneak back in with a thin majority.

      Regardless of personal opinions of Abbott and the Liberals, at the end of the day they dont need to win the election, they just have to not lose it. That is because Kevie is gone, no-one is listening to him.

    • Dash says:

      10:06am | 10/06/10

      I think people are mad! The failure’s have been of this government not just Rudd! Replace Rudd with Gillard and you get more of the same Labor party. Too much emphasisi is placed on the individual at the top in this country! Never before has a government promised so much, yet delivered so little whilst making a mess of just about everything they’ve tried. The whole government is on the nose and must go. The greens are a very scary prospect. Their tax policies will deliver a communist state and they’re border protection policy is to have no border protection. People seem to be turning to them for no reason apart from being fed up with the major parties. But that’s dangerous without looking at what they are proposing or even knowing who would sit on the front bench. And the media has a lot to answer for. Both News and Fairfax actively campaigned for a change of government at the last election (look at the editors columns on the eve of that election) and now they’re letting the Greens get off without the same scrutiny they apply to the other parties. What is going on in this country?

    • Alex H says:

      07:54pm | 24/06/10

      The saddest day for all Australians. The ultimate betrayal.

      Think about it, Rudd was betrayed by a power hungry manipulating mover.
      He was betrayed by those closest to him. Gillard was a snake waiting in the dark.

      Gillard knows that she can never win an election, and moved fast into the PM seat.

      Gillard has betrayed our country and the Labor Party voters.

      This calculated gamble will not pay off for Labor. Polls? I dont think so. Rudd had the goods to win the next election. Becuase of Gillard selling her soul to the Supertax, she has gained temporary support. Her expiration date will be shortlived.

      Liberal will win. I will be voting Liberal just to see the backstabbing Gillard fall. She has manipulated the press and the people of Australia with her lies.

      At the end of the day, this move has lost Labor the election.

      If Gillard cant be trusted by her PM, how can our country trust her when she has to make a decision between our country and herself. she will clearly put herself first.

      Dont be fooled Australia by all the supporting press. This was our elected Prime Minister. We can never trust Labor again.

    • Ross says:

      10:37pm | 25/06/10

      Exactly. Who needs a puppet PM like Gillard? Rudd had the guts to stand against the rich and corrupt and paid the price, and unfortunately so have the Australian people. We’re victims of a gutless back room coup, so what are we going to do about it? Probably nothing, so it will happen again.
      The women are all lost in the victory of their ‘win’. More like a very sad day for Australia and it’s now oppressed people.

 

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