Bathurst has become a bland, vanilla, tedious waste of petrol. Let me explain by way of an anecdote.

A gentleman is escorted from Bathurst 1000 on the weekend. Picture: Gregg Porteous

In the mid 2000s, I wrote an in-depth Alpha magazine feature on The Super Cheap-Ass 1000, or whatever the Bathurst Race was called back then.

I was embedded, if you will, with one of the major teams. After practise one day, I rode back to town with the driver of the “B Car” (most big Bathurst teams have two cars. Officially, they’re both the same, but everyone knows the good drivers get the “A” car and the lesser drivers the “B” car).

So I’m riding shotgun with the B car driver, and we divert down a quiet dirt track. Then whammo! We start doing donuts. Big, dirty burn-outs. The driver is having a great time letting his inner hoon run free and I’m scared as hell but loving the ride.

My donutting friend came third in that year’s Bathurst, but is no longer racing V8s. Despite all his talent, he was considered too much of a PR liability, and was banished to less high-profile, less lucrative forms of racing.

Meanwhile, yesterday’s Super Cheap-Ass 1000 was won by the world’s mildest man, Craig Lowndes, in partnership with Mark Skaife, a man who looks and talks like an accountant. Whoop-de-doo. Pass the creaming soda and let’s party.

This is not to bag Craig Lowndes, who is one of the most decent people you’ll meet in any walk of life. My point is that sport, like art, is dead bloody boring without conflict.

Cops vs robbers. Cowboys vs Indians. Collingwood fans vs everyone else. Great narratives, all of them. So where, oh where, are the modern day rivalries in motor sport?

V8 fans would argue that Ford vs Holden is exactly that. Pfffft. I couldn’t care less about which American-owned tin can with wheels is superior. I’d just as soon argue over the merits of Coke vs Pepsi, or BP vs Shell.

My enemy cannot be made of metal. It must be flesh! I need characters! I want Dick Dastardly and Muttley co-driving the 161 laps of Bathurst so that when Lowndsey wins, I can say “take that you moustachioed menace and you flea-ridden pooch!”

None of this has happened by accident. V8’s ruling body, AVESCO, has taken the AFL approach to growth. They know they’ve got the bogans in the bag anyway, so they’ve deliberately presented their drivers as angels to appeal to white collar Australia.

And journalists are happy to play along. A classic example was the piece on Mark “Frosty” Winterbottom (how do you get a surname like that anyway?) in a Sydney Sunday paper yesterday. It was basically all about his mum, his wife, and his passion for chess, organic tomatoes and Malawian orphans. OK, so I made the last bits up, but you get the drift.

In my Alpha story in the mid 2000s, I spent plenty of time atop Mt Panorama with the campers at McPhillamy Park, where entertainment consisted of flaming toilet rolls pitched across the night sky.

Later, I attended the jelly wrestling in town, which surprisingly had little to do with Aeroplane Raspberry trying to pin down Cottee’s Lime in a Full Nelson.

Believe me, the good folk at both venues would have much preferred to attend a concert by ’80s hard rock band The Choir Boys than to cheer for choirboys of the high-pitched, well-behaved variety. They’d love nothing better than a driver they can truly call a villain. The same for the rest of us too.

Give the people what they I want, I say. Give us drivers with a bit of attitude. 1992 Bathurst winner Jim Richards called the crowd a pack of a-holes after they booed him on the podium. Great stuff. But the chances of it happening now? Donut.

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    • Hermano says:

      06:32am | 11/10/10

      Damn straight!  We demand some manufactured rivalry!
      Get in some of the guys that script the American wrestling:  that might make it a little bit interesting…

    • Willo says:

      07:15am | 11/10/10

      What do you mean become? It was always a tedious waste of petrol, and that’s coming from a motor racing fan.

    • acotrel says:

      06:57pm | 11/10/10

      I’d rather watch a vicious game of lawn bowls!  I suggest that the controlling bodies in motor sport have lost their customer focus.

    • Adam Diver says:

      07:21am | 11/10/10

      Problem is Ant, as soon as we have a villian (i.e. someone who does something bad) there will be a pack of journalists ready to cast them to the wolves, sports bodies to scared to whisper support, and PC groups crying foul.

      Life gets more bland by the day and I lay the blame squarly on the daily news cycle and the PC groups.

    • dancan says:

      08:19am | 11/10/10

      I blame it on the over commercialisation of today. 

      Everything must sell, and not just sell but sell big.  News is over reported, headlines sensationalised.  Bogan activities, geek activates, adrenaline activates anything not centre of the road are all painted the same colour bland in the media as to attract the most people.  Any newspaper, magazine, radio, TV and website is willing to report on close to anything and interview almost anyone to grab a headline.  Some raving lunatic, right wing conservative, left wing pc and nobody all get their 15 minutes of fame. 

      But because anything mustn’t offend anyone because of their potential buying power it’s all presented in the same bland way (for good or bad as long as it sells).

    • Jim says:

      11:20am | 11/10/10

      Exactly Adam…the media sets public perception, then complain about it, but do nothing to help change anything…unless there’s a headline in it of course.

    • Mark says:

      07:23am | 11/10/10

      Yes, you went to the jelly wrestling for purely journalistic pursuit.  Research, if you will.  Obviously, spotted there and had to bang a piece in today’s article to cover thine own and prevent the wrath of the big cheese!  Such dedication to the cause.

    • AJagain says:

      07:42am | 11/10/10

      I used to follow Russell Ingall simply because of his aggressive driving and bad boy attitude, made for great racing watching him angle his way past the rear of the field or take extra risks to just gain another place. Corporatising anything tends to make it boring though. Compare the difference between old time bookies cajoling the crowds with odds and a twirl of the ribbon to todays quiet computer focussed account types for instance. Maybe the V8’s need a hoon event rather than just demos between races of burn outs.  Take 125cc races in MotoGP for example, lots of passing, sometimes a dozen lead changes, possible slides off the track….now thats racing!

    • The Bensville Bear says:

      08:06am | 11/10/10

      And you get the feeling they’d do away with the R2D2’s they call “drivers” all together if they could.  Gone the days of Dick Johnson’s puffy red cheeks and furrowed brow, gone the days of Brocky with one elbow on the window sill, gone the six-foot five and 16 stone of Pete Geoghan, gone Glenn Seton laconically chewing on his drinking tube as he slipped and slithered in the rain.

      I have a theory that this is why cycling is getting so popular - plenty of speed, villans and good guys and plenty of danger and every single emotion and muscle fibre twitch in full view

    • Macca says:

      08:18am | 11/10/10

      We have had villains in Australian sport recently, thinking Lleyton Hewitt, Willie Mason and Kevin Muscat. Its not until these individuals grow old and docile (still waiting in the Mason case) that we start appreciating them. Don’t even get me started on Ben Cousins.

      ABC Sydney were having a whinge this morning about Alcohol Advertising in Sport. Just because the Canberra Raiders are sponsored by the CFMEU doesn’t mean I’m about to become a raving Left-wing Unionist, and just because the Sydney FC are sponsored by EA Sports FIFA 11 does not mean I’m going to become a Gaming Nerd. Beer ads are fun, but they don’t make me want to drink their product. I can make that decision myself.

      PC has gone too far. lets Celebrate the imbisciles and the morons, lets have two grown-up bogans slag each other off in pit lane. And lets have alcohol companies sponsor them. Still think Children will be obsessed with Jim Bean?

    • Shane says:

      08:43am | 11/10/10

      You may be able to make that distinction Macca, but your average 12 year old watching the race with his old man, seeing Jim Beam and Bundy Rum logos plastered over every square inch of the car may not be able to separate the sponsor from the event. It’s likely that they’d come to see alcohol as inexorably linked to the event. Fast cars. Hooning around corners aggresively. Alcohol. Scantily clad women. More fast cars. Donuts. Getting drunk. All these things will be forever linked. Which is a shame.Motor sport really is the kind of cultural phenomenon we’d be better off without.

      Frankly I resent calling it a “sport” anyway. When the machine is doing the majority of the hard work, it can’t be a sport. Sport is human vs human, not human+superior machine vs human+inferior machine.

    • Nigel Catchlove says:

      09:33am | 11/10/10

      Shane, your comments show that you have actually had nothing to do with motor sport so best you keep quiet. Your comments about the sponsorship logos are more than valid and I absolutely agree with you on that but your comments about motor sport are dead wrong.

      Most of the race meetings I attend, as a driver, are dry i.e. no alcohol.  Drivers, and anyone in the pit area is required to have a zero percentage blood alcohol reading.  There are no scantily clad women and I’m not sure what your definition of ‘hooning around corners’ is but my fellow drivers and I don’t hoon. 

      There is a lot of sporting rivalry and it’s not between cars, it is between drivers who understand the physical requirements of hauling a machine through multiple turns with high g-forces on a track; understanding the coordination required to finely balance the requirement of steering, braking and acceleration just right so that the car remains at the limit of adhesion for the longest time possible.  Understanding the sensory feedback from each tyre to understand the grip level available at any moment and doing all this at speeds well above what road cars can do in a cabin that can be above 50-degrees on a cold day.


      Many sports require equipment; dressage, skiing, pentathlon, rowing, canoeing, sky-diving, skataboarding, luge etc and the person with the best kit doesn’t always win - it is the person who uses their equipment the best.  Motor sport is no different.

      The cameraderie and the friendships that develop in the pits combined with the spectacle of hundreds of cars competing on any weekend at any track in the country makes this sport one part the cultural phenomena we should never do without.
      If you can be botherd expanding your mind, have a look at the official timekeeper’s website http://www.natsoft.biz/cgi-bin/results.cgi?2010 to see just how much motorsport actually happens in Australia on any given weekend.

    • Hermano says:

      10:08am | 11/10/10

      Nigel, Shane was talking about the public face of motor racing, not the day-to-day actuality.
      Alcohol companies sponsoring teams, scantily clad ladeez on the start lines etc…  It just screams testosterone and stupidity.

    • Macca says:

      10:50am | 11/10/10

      @Hermano, Agreed, its all about bringing out our inner bogan, and I reckon kids are smart enough to recognise that. Parents getting blind drunk in front of their children, however, does more damage than Nate Myles leaving a present in a hotel hallway

    • Gorgon says:

      01:21pm | 11/10/10

      Shane

      Hopefully the parents have done their job in educating the youngster about alcohol.

      By 12 it seems the kid was smart enough not to jump off a cliff after they saw Wile E Coyote do it. If not then that’sjust Darwinism at play and be thanks to that!

    • Old Clive says:

      08:26am | 11/10/10

      Boring, La Ronde was a good movie, motor racing is a money making merry go round in every thinging persons language. But I suppose it keeps the morons happy and does create some sort of employment, but entertainment?

    • ibast says:

      08:46am | 11/10/10

      There is no doubt marketing runs first second and third with this formula.  To get the characters back the whole formula needs to change and the semi-professional and amateur teams need to be allowed back in.

    • Reg says:

      08:46am | 11/10/10

      The guy in the photo seems happy that he’s going to something better than watching the race, but I’m just an innocent by-stander. Still, I suppose the very fact that I opened this story implicates me, in that I’ve encouraged the writer.

    • Nicole says:

      09:12am | 11/10/10

      The first thing I did when I looked at that photo and read ‘gentleman’ escorted, I had a little chuckle.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      09:04am | 11/10/10

      Did anyone win yesterday’s race?

    • Mark says:

      09:12am | 11/10/10

      It will be even more boring when Ford ceases making Falcons, doesnt seem much point in contuing with the event or the circuit if all the cars are the same.

    • ibast says:

      11:56am | 11/10/10

      A Mondeo body could be adapted to the common NASCAR chassis the same way the current Falcondoore is.  Production has nothing to do with it.  We used to laugh at the American NASCAR scene in the 1980s.  Now we have our own.

    • Ned says:

      01:54pm | 11/10/10

      It won’t matter for a moment. Except for the bodies, the cars are virtually identical. You could strap a Kia body onto what’s now a Ford chassis and it would do as well. Don’t for a moment think the Falcons and Commodores that race in the V8 Supercar series have any relationship to the showroom floor models (except the basic body shape).

    • Andrew says:

      08:42am | 12/10/10

      Actually Ned, even the basic body shape has gone out the window. With both sides needing to make changes to the body so that the body can fit the required drivetrain.

    • Colin Stokes says:

      09:16am | 11/10/10

      I think the point of the article Old Clive, is that there are not enough morons involved anymore.

      I can only agree. Having lived in Bathurst when there were plenty of hateful characters, from Dick Johnston, who has the most appropriate first name in motorsport, to Alan Moffat, who was easily hated just for being Canadian.

      We can all start hating Lownes right now for equally invalid reasons, like his awful eyebrows or, yes, for being too mild. Under the pressure of enough abuse perhaps we can induce a violent outburst of profanity and threat that will get the Supercar world buzzing again.

    • Retired Soldier says:

      09:39am | 11/10/10

      I have an acquaintance who spends the entire weekend laid out on a $10000.00 couch watching this entire nonsense unfold. He is a multi millionaire and wouldn’t be seen dead in either a Ford or Holden. He collects expensive imports and despises all the drivers who race so called V8 Super cars. I cannot identify which gene he is missing or what drives him to waste so much time on one weekend of the year. He is not interested in any other sport and spends all the other days of his life making more money. Can someone please tell me where the missing brain cells have gone and why ? He can’t answer the question because the beer stubby doesn’t leave his lips for long enough on a Bathurst weekend.

    • Gorgon says:

      01:25pm | 11/10/10

      Sounds like he’s missing the “Taking Life Too Seriously” gene. It’s a good one not to have.

      He enjoys it. No problem there.

    • RT says:

      01:39pm | 11/10/10

      Everyone likes a bit of lowest common denominator entertainment every now and then…

      Personally, I watched a whole lot of Jerry Springer when it used to be on at midday during my days at university (or those days when I obviously wasn’t there). Don’t really know why… just couldn’t turn the tele off.

      I’ve found most of my successful mates (and all of the really successful ones) have a couple of really bonhead things that they enjoy doing or watching… it helps keep them sane.

    • acotrel says:

      02:22am | 12/10/10

      Ask him if he’d like to become sponsor of a race team?

    • nosthow says:

      09:48am | 11/10/10

      Spot on Anthony - a bland money grab it what it is. The Pace car has totally spoilt the race and the result is to say the least dubious because of it. They bring the Pace car out for quite the silliest of reasons when the flag system would suffice as it has done so well in days gone by. So someone builds up a handy lead and its all cancellecd by the Pace car coming out. 6 laps before the finish of yesterdays race, which I now see was on delayed telecast due to excessive ads, the pace car came out , the field again bunched and to all it looked at the end as if it was a close fought race, which it was not. Also its time to have some more makes and models racing - the silly Holden vs Ford thing is stale big time. Yankee V8’s are all good but lets see Toyota and maybe whoever else wants to enter have a go and bring back some real interest to the race. If someone asked me to now go to the race I would advise just turn up for the last 10 laps - theres the race !

    • Miles says:

      01:59pm | 11/10/10

      Totally agreed on the inclusion of more makes and models.  V8 racing used to be a lot more exciting when you had multiple makes included.  Now it’s just taxi racing…

    • Richo says:

      09:48am | 11/10/10

      “None of this has happened by accident. V8’s ruling body, AVESCO, has taken the AFL approach to growth. They know they’ve got the bogans in the bag anyway, so they’ve deliberately presented their drivers as angels to appeal to white collar Australia”.
      Anthony that is a great quote, it had me in stitches.

    • ibast says:

      10:40am | 11/10/10

      I don’t quite agree.  Motor racing was always a whiteish collar sport in that only rich kids could afford to be successful.  Though its fan-base spanned the divide.  AVESCO turned it into something for Bogans only.  Now I’d say they are acting on pressure from their sponsors, who don’t want to be associated with boofheads, rather than a desire to capture the white collar market.

    • Rob says:

      10:05am | 11/10/10

      Bogans and Political Correctness, thats what its come down to. Boring as batshit. But do you really blame the people involved?

      Its no so much them, but the people external to them, that wreak havoc out of every little thing that gets done.

      So the insiders react to the external BS that they dont control.

      And you know what? In the world of increasing Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, etc, it only takes a few keystrokes by someone on the other side of the world, and all of a sudden, something that was marginally beyond their control, has now become completely out of their control.

      I’m amazed that motorsports still exists, to be honest. What with all the “speed kills” BS here in this country, its a bloody miracle that race car drivers arent pilloried as some kind of bad example to mums and dads, turning them all into serial killing speeders.

    • acotrel says:

      02:29am | 12/10/10

      The slogan should be ‘speed plus incompetence kills’ !  !f I had a kid about to drive on public roads, I’d take him/her to John Bowe and get them taught to drive properly on a race circuit.  Then they might survive amongst the other idiots on our highways!

    • cynic says:

      10:10am | 11/10/10

      Just checked the 2000 race results. Funny thing is, those who came 3rd in that year ARE still racing v8s. Maybe you want to check the details before some lawyers come knocking!

    • null says:

      11:10am | 11/10/10

      Read again cynic - he said MID - 200s.  And the sport is worse off for missing this drivers charges

    • acotrel says:

      03:18am | 13/10/10

      Cynic, what do you mean ‘before some lawyers come knocking’?  I’ve actually been in a situation in motorsport where this happened.  I approached the instigator at a meeting, and stood toe to toe with him, and asked him what his story was.  When motorsport reaches that level, it’s not worth doing!

    • Andy D says:

      10:16am | 11/10/10

      I am not so concerned about the dehoonification of the sport but more about the NASCARisation of it. I just heard that soon they will all be racing the same purpose built race car chassis with either a fake plastic Commodore body or a fake plastic Falcon body. If this is true then in years to come this will be looked back on as the beginning of the end of V8 Supercars (don’t even get me started on the ridiculousness of the name “V8 Supercars”, what 9 year old thought that up?).

      Bring back the Australian Touring Car Championships. Then we can all get back to arguing about what cars should and what cars shouldn’t be allowed to race and the drivers will be spending so much time figuring out a strategy to beat cars that can outrun them on the straights but can’t keep up with them in the corners (or vice versa) that they won’t have the time to act like 17 year old bogans.

      Watching the Suzuka Grand Prix yesterday I wasn’t even tempted to switch over during the ads to see who was winning at Bathurst and as a lifelong Australian motor sport fan I think that is a sad indictment on what has become a very very boring racing code.

    • PatC says:

      01:22pm | 11/10/10

      Couldn’t agree more. Spent my race watching time on the weekend watching historical Bathurts 1000 dvd’s. Much more entertaining that todays greyed scaled, boring, all the same racing.

    • Ian says:

      03:21pm | 11/10/10

      The old ATCC format does exist.  It’s called the Australian Production Car Championship.  They even race at Bathurst. In February.  for 12 hours.

      That you don’t know about it either says something to your dedication as a fan, or their ability to garner support. 

      If you think it should be the premier motorsport category, then support it, beacuse I think about 12 people went last year.  They very much need your support.

      Despite all the bleatings of the band of naysayers on this blog, V8SC racing is still by far the most popular motorsport category, and produces pretty full-on and exciting racing.  Crowds at each event are growing.  It does have heroes and villians.  Hero:  David Besnard.  Villian: James Courtney, just beacuse he’s a precious tool.

    • Andy D says:

      08:09pm | 11/10/10

      PCAA (production cars) are not the same thing as ATCC (Touring Cars), not even close. Touring Cars are heavily modified, Production Cars are largely unmodified and would be eaten alive by any Group A Touring Car and wouldn’t even see the blur of a Group C car rushing past.

      The first V8 Supercar series in 1993 was basically just the old ATCC with anything other than a Falcon or Commodore banned.

      The ATCC was dumped because a bunch of bogan little girls couldn’t handle the fact that the Falcon and Commodore were not the best cars any more, so they had a hissy fit and outlawed all the other cars and for some ridiculous reason the men with the money agreed with them.

      I think they should have just decreed that to race in Touring Cars a vehicle must have 4 doors and must be sold to the public in Australia, that would have got rid of the Skylines, M3s and Sierras without turning us into a poor man’s NASCAR.

    • Ant Sharwood says:

      10:22am | 11/10/10

      Just to be really clear cynic, I wrote “mid 2000s”, as in, a year near enough to the middle of that decade, NOT the year 2000. Believe me, the guy in question is no longer in V8s

    • Ben says:

      11:03am | 11/10/10

      I’d say either 2003 or 2005. Steve Ellery or Adam Macrow and AVESCO changed their name to VESA (V8 Supercars Australia)

    • Edward James says:

      10:31am | 11/10/10

      The Kings are dead long live the memories.

    • Graham The Great says:

      10:38am | 11/10/10

      We need some more ‘big guns’ to make it interesting, some more hammering, thumping great big V8’s not some pretending wanna bees like rotaries, or turbo’d anythings.  Why don’t Toyota and Chrysler get involved, they do it with NASCAR.  Just so long as Holden wins!  Go the mighty Lion and all your ‘cubs’.

    • G.C. forest lake says:

      11:34am | 11/10/10

      bring back the easter bike races.
      fun, mayhem and racing.
      can’t remember what order they came in

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      01:18pm | 11/10/10

      I can remember:  It used to be 2 days of bikes and 2 days of cars in that order.  A lot of the bikies used to leave after the bike races were over.  MacPhillamy Park was full of us and there was *always* a bugler.  Every year I went from 1972 - 1975 there was a bugler.  He always played reveille at some godforsaken time in the morning when we were all nursing the mother and father of hangovers.  It was all good fun and I am very sorry those days are gone.  Its too tame by half nowadays.

    • Mild says:

      12:06pm | 11/10/10

      I agree with Andy D - bring back the old ATCC or Group C racing. Heavy V8s versus medium weight 4WD turbo sixes versus lightweight turbo fours. Overall race battles and battles within classes. Drivers with personality. Glory days, me thinks…

    • Ian says:

      03:10pm | 11/10/10

      Nuh, dumb idea.  Last time they did that, the winner was booed off the podium.  He did call the fans a bunch of a-holes, but.

      Still, I can’t see that kind of fan reception being popular on an ongoing basis.

    • Stiffy says:

      12:08pm | 11/10/10

      Bathurst has become just another race on the V8 circuit. What was once the best stock car race in the world is now just an extended (bland) version of the other V8 races. Why cant we go back to its roots and make it again a true production car race. Lets get the true street cars back on the track. Lets get some Holden ‘beep’ ‘beep’ Barinas and ‘speedy’ Ford Fiestas and give them a real thrashing as they act as mobile chicanes to the big V8’s and if the Professionals dont like it then lets bring back the privateers. Drivers like the Mad chemist Brown spining out and flipping on the last corner or dopes like the bearded wannabe Melbourne playboy Jackson being bumped off the track for trying to spoil a Torana 1/2 finish. Thats what the punters want. And if the Pros dont want to be ‘heroes’  then they can sit out the weekend.

    • Man of the World says:

      12:58pm | 11/10/10

      I’m not sure I fully agree that your enemy cannot be made of metal. I think the Ford v Holden rivalry has less of an impact now is that they’re both so similar. Regardless of the driver, there’s no individuality in the cars themselves, hence a feeling of blandness between the rivalry.

      I also remember a time when other manufacturers like Volvo were in on the act..or is that a past we’d rather forget? Perhaps that’s what Bathurst needs - an outsider to shake up the rivalry?

    • The Bensville Bear says:

      01:22pm | 11/10/10

      You know it wasn’t that long ago that AVESCO, through their agents Bathurst City Council (they didn’t want to get their own hands dirty) stalked around Macquarie St and Canberra threating to pull their support for Bathurst if the taxpayer didn’t spend $20 million on upgrading the facilities.  They were going to take it to NZ.  Carr and Howard duly obliged.

      I’m starting to wonder if the taxpayer got such a good deal in subsidising the event after yesterday’s snore-athon.  At least in the old days you could argue that the taxpayer benefitted from the safety advancements made through racing touring cars.

      And only 5 DNF’s? These cars are too reliable!  What happened to the “mystery noises” drivers heard coming from under the bonnett over the last 20 laps?  50-odd cars and half the field wouldn’t finsh - now that made for more drama than the stupid pace-car.

    • stevem says:

      02:47pm | 11/10/10

      I think the rules limiting the engines to 7500 are to blame. The components are now too strong to break at these rpm ranges which were introduced to contain the escalating costs. On the other hand, if these rules were relaxed, only the best funded teams would stand a chance of victory.

    • Ruby Less says:

      02:32pm | 11/10/10

      Well as far as I’m concerned all it does is encourage more young folk to go out there and kill themselves all trying to be some one their not but the sad truth of it all is they not only kill themselves they take out other innocent people as well.Leave the area to the roos and other wildlife and maybe just maybe there will be some sanity restored on the roads.( I did say MAYBE)

    • Mitch says:

      02:45pm | 11/10/10

      Donuts don’t win races and the majority of people don’t like idiots causing trouble and being a pain in the ass. If you want to drink, go to the pub. If you want to fight, join a boxing gym. If you want to act like an idiot, stay at home.

      Have you never heard the saying “what wins on Sunday, sells on Monday”? Manufacturers want mature, professional drivers who win races, not perform stunts and carry on like fools.

      And besides, why whinge about how boring the race is these days, when there’s only two manufacturers anyway! I’ll be watching the World Superbikes until they decide to let Nissan race the Skyline GTRs again!

    • Kel says:

      06:59pm | 11/10/10

      V8? Isn’t that a brand of tomato juice? No wonder it’s boring!

    • bob says:

      07:24pm | 11/10/10

      I love the big race at this time of the year…...but, love it or loathe it….money makes the world (and these awesomely engineered piece of machinery that is V8 Supercars) go round…..that’s life. Enjoy it or live bitterly.

    • Dave says:

      07:32pm | 11/10/10

      You are correct, the V8’s are boring but not for the reasons you state. The drivers have been regulated into a procession rather than racing. They cant bump, wrestle or take chance’s anymore.
      Watch the British Touring cars on 1HD and you will see what Motor Racing is all about.
      This years Bathurst was one most mundane and boring races I have ever seen!!

    • acotrel says:

      07:22am | 12/10/10

      When racing is safe, it tends to be boring for spectators, until the limit is again reached. Would you watch the traffic on the Monash Freeway hoping to see an accident, or a stupid move from an idiot driver? I was amazed at the severity of the crash on lap one of the Bathurst Race.  It holds a message for all road users.

    • VS says:

      05:08am | 12/10/10

      It has to be dull - there is even a car sponsored by tampons. Or maybe that was last year. That’s certainly not blokey. And blokey shielas probably roll their own.

      Either way, it’s now a ‘meh’ race.

    • Glenn says:

      07:07am | 12/10/10

      Anthony, you just dont get it….!  These guys are racing on the absolute limit where one slip means disaster.  The enduro’s have always been more about strategy than biffo and always will be (watched F1 lately).  If you dont like it then go and watch Ladies Netball and stop whinging….

    • Hendrik says:

      07:25am | 12/10/10

      The V8SC and German DTM championship are two of the most boring formula in the world and for good reason. They are overly managed and the Professionality of the Catergory has outgrown the sport.

      What Dave said is right, the BTCC is a fantastic catergory and seeing them on the limit in production-like cars is amazing.

      When Ambrose left the V8SC it kinda went downhill. He was the last True Ford man at the front of the grid and with that the FvH battle demised.

      Bring on Toyota/Lexus, BMW, Mercedes etc.

    • Kirk says:

      07:35am | 12/10/10

      To those saying the V8’s need a ‘hoon’ event of some sort whatch the utes, those guys have no problem in scraping the car alongside just cause they can.

    • acotrel says:

      03:27am | 13/10/10

      Since when has a utility been a racing car?  You might as well race those self-propelled wheelchairs the oldies use these days.  How about a race for dunny carts?: That’d be exciting?  Perhaps we really need to start remanufacturing K3 MGs, and Type 35 Bugattis?

    • some random guy says:

      07:53am | 12/10/10

      y dont they have other cars, watching ford vs holden gets a bit boring year after year after year

    • Duke says:

      08:13am | 12/10/10

      the problem is not the overcorporatisation of the sport.  The problem is that we (Australia) are such a small market that if the guys go biffing and bargeing around 1000kms they would be able to repair the damage before the next round.  The compaints surfaced many years ago when damage was costing too much for teams to be able to constantly repair it following each round.  Our market does not generate enough sponsorship or advertising dollars (returned as income to the teams) for this kind of wallet damage to constantly occur.  The procession that we see today is a direct result of the want of teams and sponsors to present immaculate cars evertime they go out - I saw one guy desperately shammy-ing down a car 5 minutes before the ‘Shootout’ and thought WTF, it’s only going out for two laps…?  If every team said, “Fock it, lets bang things up and leave it a bit ‘nasty’ “, I don’t see that they would lose any fans.

      I would actually prefer to see a bit of panel damage like the superstocks in speedway etc - just bang out the dents with a hammer, apply a can of spray paint and away we go.

      I’m not sure how to reverse the trend now that it’sd so far down it’s current path but would love to see some NASCAR-style knocks (and a couple of decent driver fights to go with it!!).

    • acotrel says:

      03:38am | 13/10/10

      ‘I would actually prefer to see a bit of panel damage like the superstocks in speedway etc - just bang out the dents with a hammer, apply a can of spray paint and away we go.’

      Stock cars on speedway are simply revolting.  Can you remember when we used to race Offenhausers, and Holden engined speed cars?  That, and solo motorcycle races is what speedway should be about - an elegant sport based on motivated competitors on equally matched machinery - NOT idiotic argey-bargey.  If you want that watch ‘World Championship Wrestling’!

    • Joel says:

      08:30am | 12/10/10

      ford vs holden? the only thing different is the badge.
      Bring back real modified street cars and open it up to other manufacturers again then watch it blossom into something beautiful.

    • Andrew says:

      08:56am | 12/10/10

      I’m going against the grain and state that I loved the race at Bathurst, and I was happily standing at the side of the track watching it all day. Furthermore I didn’t drink any booze, (or take anything).

      I also think that I’m one of those motorsport fans that are not just there for the crashes, and I actually enjoy watching cars + drivers battle it out.

      Furthermore I hate the fact that “jelly wrestling”, girls dancing around in what could almost be their underwear, and bogans getting drunk is almost considered “part of the sport”. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against these other things, it’s just to me, that’s not motorsport. It’s a bunch of things designed to entertain bogans, because unless there are crashes they have the attention span of an fish.

    • paul morrison says:

      07:52am | 09/02/11

      as long as its just holden and ford it will be lame.let it be open to any car that meets standards.the more makes   the more fun it is

    • balamuts says:

      08:23pm | 16/02/11

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