When it comes to the private conduct of public figures, Australians like to have it a bob each way. And that’s not an oblique reference to one of our most accomplished prime ministers both in the parliament and the bedroom.

A kind of love…Whitlam Government minister Jim Cairns and personal secretary Junie Morosi.

As a general statement, we say that we don’t much care whether our politicians are cheating on their partners. It’s a badge of honour for us that we’re not like the United States, where the moral majority wields tremendous influence within politics and any hint of infidelity will destroy a career.

Australians just shrug their shoulders and say: well, nobody’s perfect, politicians are human too. You can spare us the lectures from the holy-rollers, most of whom will eventually be sprung inside a $55-a-night Formula One motor inn dressed as Shirley Temple.

At the same time, we will freely consume news of the private wrongdoing of politicians, continuing to watch, read or listen to media which cover such stories, and have spirited conversations over beers and at barbecues about the rights and wrongs of their actions.

In some cases these stories have no impact on their ability to do their job but go purely to their character. One of the forgotten dimensions of the 1993 election – a supposedly unwinnable contest for the ALP, but where Paul Keating held on against John Hewson – was the revelation in his 60 Minutes profile that Hewson had walked out on his first wife on Christmas Eve. ALP strategists said that this fact played just as badly in focus groups as the GST, especially with female voters who regarded it as a total dog act from which there was no recovery.

But the general test is that we only care about their private conduct when it affects their ability to do their job.

If you are such a serial flirt that you can’t go out in public without putting the hard word on women, if you put the moves on your staff, or if your dalliances are so frequent or intense that saving your marriage becomes more important than doing your job, then you’ve placed yourself in the firing line for some intense public scrutiny.

John Della Bosca finds himself in this latter category. He has abandoned his public duties on the frontbench because his private life has gone off the rails. As he said yesterday, this has become a distraction for a government which cannot afford any more distractions.

But on a private level the bigger challenge facing Della is an intensely personal one – to save, or agree to terminate, his marriage to federal Labor MP Belinda Neal.

If there is a manual for how politicians should deal with these kinds of situations, it should be revised to include a chapter on John Della Bosca’s conduct yesterday.

Della Bosca’s great political talent –as a backroom operator, which he dominated, not in his less inspired incarnation as a parliamentarian – was an ability to read the public mood. And yesterday, it looked as if he’d done a quick mental calculation against the test set out above – private conduct that affects public duty – and decided to take his cuts. 

It was a dignified and honest performance by a bloke who, not to put to fine a point on it, is up to his neck in it on the home front.

The full details of the Telegraph’s account of his six-month dalliance with a 26-year-old woman is such excruciating, ego-driven, middle-aged ratbaggery, replete with playful text messages and declarations of love, that frankly I don’t know how the guy even got out of the house yesterday.

Indeed Victoria’s snow-capped Mount Feathertop seemed a better option, as he’s in more strife than Tim Holding.

From the craven perspective of the political tactician, Della Bosca didn’t actually need to get out of the house at all - certainly not to hold a press conference.

The statement from Nathan Rees on Monday night and the accompanying letter of resignation from Della Bosca, where he admitted to his infidelity, was probably as much as a reasonable person would have expected him to do.

His press conference instead looked like an act of contrition and catharsis where he felt that he needed to front up and declare, over and over, that he was personally responsible for his actions, had to own up to what he had done, and pay the price.The former De La Salle pupil said he had let down his family, his community, and his Church, making it sound more like a televised confessional than a mealy-mouthed presser aimed at getting him off the hook.

It’s debatable whether Della Bosca can ever come back as a political force. I’d say it’s unlikely. But if he doesn’t return to prominence this press conference could stand as an appropriately enigmatic final contribution from the man.

When I joined The Daily Telegraph in 1999 as state political reporter my riding orders, verbatim, from the then editor in chief Col Allan were to “get inside the mind of John Della Bosca.”

And I’ve got to say I failed miserably. Della Bosca – who had then shifted from a distinguished nine-year stint as NSW Labor secretary to the NSW Parliament, where he was touted as a long-term successor to Bob Carr – had absolutely no interest in gald-handing journalists or, it seemed, even bothering to talk to them.

It’s for this reason that, in one of his very rare one-on-one interviews, the wily Maxine McKew took him to lunch on The Bulletin and suckered him into a candid exposition on Kim Beazley’s hapless “rollback” policy for the GST, causing massive damage to federal Labor.

Della Bosca didn’t make the transition from calculating operative, reader of the public mood, counter of numbers inside caucuses and booths, to a polished speaker and presentable premier.

After the McKew episode Della Bosca went back to his almost completely withdrawn self. In the decade I’ve spent watching NSW politics I could count the number of conversations I’ve had with him on both hands.

One of the most enjoyable ones came out of the blue earlier this year, when he rang up to say that he had liked a column I’d done about the hysteria over shark attacks in Sydney, and what I described as the bizarre calls from the public and sections of the press for “tough government action” to tackle the shark menace.

Della Bosca said the piece appealed to his conviction that government could not solve everything in life, and that if people had made their own choice as a rational adult to go and have a dip in the ocean, it was laughable to turn around and blame the state for failing to step in. People should understand that if they chose a certain course of action, they might have to deal with the consequences.

I was reminded of this watching him yesterday as he faced up for his own mauling, one entirely of his own making.

He showed yesterday though that he had the ability to front up and put his hand up, to deal honestly with deceitful conduct, and put himself on a path where he’s now trying to salvage whatever he can from his troubled marriage, without burdening the public with the impact of his private problems.


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    • dave says:

      07:31am | 02/09/09

      Labor scandals in NSW hardly raise an eyebrow, there have been so many. At least they could make the scandals a bit more kinky or bizarre to make it more entertaining! A lack of imagination all around. And who cares about a rude bogan like Belinda? She’s like a bad tempered Kath and Kim. More broadly Labor and the Liberals need to face up to the fact that they have rooted this states democracy and any semblance of political choice or diversity or credible debate. The question is where to from here?

    • susan says:

      08:06am | 02/09/09

      Affairs are part of life. Private matters should stay private. This is a revenge situation.

    • Dean says:

      08:09am | 02/09/09

      Where is PM Rudd? Why is he so silent on the whole matter? Reflection on his own political future?

    • From Affairs aren't worth it. says:

      08:13am | 02/09/09

      Yes, we do care. These high profile figures who proclaim family values are nothing but hypocripts, because in the end they get caught out. I had an affair with a Qld State LNP Member (still sitting) in late 1999/early 2000 - that I ended. It was either sleep with him or lose my job. I was a single parent with children to feed and a mortgage to pay. I loved my job. He showered me with gifts and expensive clothing, he even bagged his wife. I ended the affair not long after it started as I realised that having an affair is not who I am. I stood up to him and said “NO”. He didn’t like that but I needed to reinstate my dignity and self respect.  The working relationship with him lasted nearly 10 years - however he proved his disloyalty to me a few years ago when he had me sacked!!  Why? I said NO once too often!!
      Now I have to look at his fat ugly face on TV when parliament sits and know what a hypocript he is come election time when he espouses family values during his election campaign. I just sit back and laugh. I believe in Karma - what goes around comes around - his judgement day will come and I will have the last laugh!

    • mary says:

      09:05am | 02/09/09

      No, we don’t care! i don’t like Della Bosca, but he has the right to have a private life , make mistakes, and Belinda and only her are to be his judge.

    • Trevor says:

      09:11am | 02/09/09

      If our politicians play around and are not faithful to their own families, how much easier it is for them to cheat on their electorate. Take their expenses for example. How many cheat the taxpayer through misuse of their expenses? Enough is enough. We have the right to be treated properly by our elected representatives.
      In this case. Mr Della Bosca has been caught - I bet he regrets being caught more than anything else. But then to merely resign as minister is rather a cheap self imposed punishment. How about getting out of politics altogether. You do not deserve the privilege of serving the people of NSW.

    • Anonymous says:

      09:18am | 02/09/09

      So many people have cheated on their partners that they must feel like hypocrites to come out and bag Dela.. That’s my 2 cents.

    • Jonangel says:

      09:20am | 02/09/09

      Do we care if the busdriver sleeps around or our local GP?
      So what is different about pollies? They should only be judged on their
      performance in the parliament and the electorate. Sex isn’t a sin any way,
      in fact I find it very enjoyable.

    • PaulC says:

      09:32am | 02/09/09

      No clear direction on this one. No it’s not right. But how to respond, I’m at a loss. I think the female lover is the pits in playing victim and tell-tale. Irrespective of Belinda Neal’s recent past some sympathy should go her way.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      09:31am | 02/09/09

      At least he didn’t fly all the way to South America to have an affair….

    • Ken says:

      09:33am | 02/09/09

      hooley dooley….hell hath no fury…
      I do agree with “Affairs aren’t worth it” in the sense that they’re a bloody hypocritical bunch, espousing all those Christain values then shagging their brains out…Della said on TV last night that he had shamed his church….seriously Della….your credibilty was already low, coming out with that tosh just took it below sea level…if you’re serious get out of politics completely….get off the public pay cheque, go work with the poor or something like that, absolve your sins Della, you’re a good catholic lad, you know the right thing to do

    • b j wolf says:

      09:34am | 02/09/09

      It gets back to basics. One is paid to do a job, and he may have missed some meetings he was paid to attend.
      A woman cries fowl, she should have had more sense for both actions. lying and cheating hurts every one close to them. If pollies spent more time doing their work there would be little time to cheat on the job.

    • Peter says:

      09:35am | 02/09/09

      Della Bosca is paying for it and she is keeping her identity a secret, does not seem fair. She also did wrong by sleeping with a married man. She should reveal herself.

    • not Bitter&Twisted; says:

      09:35am | 02/09/09

      As the woman involved in Della Bosca’s affair states:
      “If he is capable of lying to his wife and children - and John really does love his sons - and of manipulating a woman into believing he actually loves her, then why wouldn’t he do that in other aspects of his life and career?”

      The lies and deceit involved in carrying out an affair display a lack of ‘character’, they also destroy any trust or respect that family and friends had in the person who had the affair, especially if it is evident they manipulated the ‘lover’ into it. One has to wonder; if a person is capable of doing that, then what else are they capable of?

    • brasso says:

      09:37am | 02/09/09

      Its more about trust then morals. He made a commitment to his wife when he married her. If he is unhappy in that relationship (and no one would blame him if he is) he should end it before breaking the trust by having an affair. If he can’t keep a promise to his wife, how can anyone dealing with him trust any words that come out of his mouth. As a politition, his integrity is all about trust, not necessarily the truth. All Polititions lie and thats the truth.

    • Cynical says:

      09:38am | 02/09/09

      Politicians, priests and used car salesmen are all tarred with the same brush.  None of them have any morals and they are all self-serving!
      Politicians long ago stopped representing their constituents, now use their positions to push their own agenda, and desperately try to keep their snouts in the trough long enough to qualify for their totally unjustified pension.
      The other thing they all have in common is that it’s really easy to tell when they are telling lies - their lips move!

    • John Fogarty says:

      09:39am | 02/09/09

      Politicians by definition are Machiavellian sociopaths with no principles , scruples , conscience or shame . Just the sort of people who would commit adultery .

    • dean says:

      09:40am | 02/09/09

      I agree that affairs a quite common. I know a lot of men and women who have extra-marital relationships. And I know a lot of women who are attracted to men in positions of power. So no it does not matter one bit. What was it Dame Zara Holt said about the woman who said Harold lover her - something like “Get in the queue honey”. Holt, McMahon, Fraser, Hawke were all noted for their love of women. Very common and to be expected and should not reflect on his ability to do his job.

    • Eiram says:

      09:41am | 02/09/09

      I really respected (authorised by) JDellaBosca’s (for the ALP Sydney) apology.  I’ve watched this story unfold with some compassion and empathy because as we’re focused on the news of the day, there have been months leading up to it that I’m sure have involved far more emotion, confusion, anger, hurt, ego, passion - than anyone could ever report on!  He did the best thing stepping down - it would be extremely hard to focus on any important role when you’re dealing with a personal crisis such as this. 

      On an entirely different note, this article was a stark reminder of how important journalists are in our lives…  Without people dedicated to following beats / people for a long period of time - we’d never get the insights that you gave us today.

    • Rob says:

      09:43am | 02/09/09

      So, Milton Orkopalos’s ex 2IC is shocked and appalled, Shag-me-Kate the adultress is the aggrieved party and anonymous Press darling , Della is of course a swine but Bill Shorten who did dump his wife for a younger woman is still a Labor hero . Frankly I would take a guilty adulterer over shameless hypocrites any day.

    • Rollinghereyes says:

      09:45am | 02/09/09

      Yeah what a stand up guy!

      Just like the time a kid in my class got caught cheating, they totally admitted to it after they’d been caught, bet they wouldn’t have been so stand up if they’d never been found out.

    • T says:

      09:50am | 02/09/09

      I want to go one week, just one week, without hearing about a ‘Labor scandal’. I don’t want to hear about their close relationships with property developers or miners; taking bribes; being found guilty of sexually abusing children; taking drugs and/or giving drugs to children; attempting to rape a staffer;  or forging AEC forms to rig pre-selection contests.

      I don’t want to hear how they’ve abused people or misused their travel entitlements to rack up frequent flyer points. I don’t want to know if they’ve broken a taxi drivers’ arm; demanded a hot meal or told a trouper to find a hairdryer.

      I’m sick of them. If they could just behave like decent human beings and apply the same standards they expect from the rest of us.

      Go for broke Barry O’Farrell! Don’t just do it for NSW, do it for every Australian sick to death of watching Labor corrupt every political system in the country. Because I’m quite sure, each Labor Premier will be watching what’s happening in NSW with white-faced fear.

    • Johnny C says:

      09:51am | 02/09/09

      Della Bosca is a fool no question. But I’m interested in why this is somehow seen as a one-sided affair. The woman gets to keep her privacy but Della Bosca, and more importantly his wife and children, do not.
      The media seem to be making a big deal out of the age difference, and it seems that in this day and age, a 26 year old woman is still capable of being seen as almost an adolescent, not having to accept responsibility for her actions. Only 30 years ago that the average 26 year old would have been married with 1 or 2 children and be expected to exhibit a far higher level of maturity and personal responsibility, so let’s stop pretending that she’s a victim and treat both parties equally.

    • FP says:

      09:50am | 02/09/09

      It gives me the craps all of these people carrying on as though what happens in private should stay private. I aint no saint either, but at the same time I’m not putting my snout in the trough day in and day out and having my egos massaged by a multitude of public servants at my beck and call. I don’t have access to living away from home allaowances, funded ‘study’ trips, transport, gold passes, or early access to superannuation, I don’t have access to some of the best office accomodation in the country and I don’t get tax payer subsidised food and booze at parliament house with an office near my house )electorate) that is also funded my the tax payer. And whilst the taxpayer is funding all this I am missing flights and wagging work for a day to act like a love sick teenager who sho know better.

      Seriously, and you have readers out there that can defend these sorts of brazen failures of common sense and fair play to the tax payer of NSW with regards to good governship and judgement to the people of NSW?

    • DG says:

      09:53am | 02/09/09

      I couldn’t care less who is having sex with who. I don’t vote for a politician for their personal life, I really couldn’t care less. However, in this case it does go to loyalty - if a person is not loyal to their partner, how can you expect them to be loyal to their electorate.

      Of course this whole theory falls into a steaming pile of horse manure when you consider party politics: first loyalty to the faction of your party that will give you the best chance at pre-selection. Second loyalty to the party, and finally,somewhere down the list, is loyalty to the electorate.

      He does deserve brownie points for accepting responsibility for it - rather than trying some of the more traditional excuses for affairs, and even more so for keeping this private matter as private as possible.

      @Dean (07:09am | 02/09/09) :What on earth would Rudd want to say anything about this matter? O’Farrell should have kept his mouth shut as well. There is nothing that Rudd could say that would make it better and nothing that O’Farrell can say that will make it worse. If the opposition in this state want to look like a reasonable alternative they need to have some policies (an innovative idea) and show themselves as an alternative, showing the flaws in the Govt is hardly promoting themselves as an alternative.

      @From Affairs aren’t worth it.  (07:13am | 02/09/09): “I ended the affair not long after it started as I realised that having an affair is not who I am”. To be completely honest, you need to accept that you were having an affair therefore you are the type of person who has affairs. The fact that you didn’t like being that type of person and subsequently chose to stop that behaviour does nothing to undo your past behaviour. Your behaviour determines the type of person that you are, not the self image you try to sell.  Without knowing the full circumstances, it does seem a little odd that after a short affair he sacks you 10 years later for saying “No” - why didn’t he sack you 3 months later? or even 6 months? why wait a number of years?

    • Tim says:

      09:58am | 02/09/09

      When will News reveal the woman’s identity?
      You cannot keep her identity a secret while plastering the front of the Tele with her juicy story. She was knowingly involved in an affair with a married man, she know what she was doing, she can’t hide.
      Front up News.

    • mark says:

      10:00am | 02/09/09

      a cheat is a cheat.

    • drmick says:

      10:04am | 02/09/09

      It is interesting that his sly shag chooses the rag that people who “move their lips when reading the pictures ” purchase for their “news”. “Is it true or did you read it in the Tele? “. It doesnt matter. I suppose the news value is that a bloke can pull other birds, but that is nothing to brag about. He deserves our sympathy and our best wishes on his timely farewell.

    • Bert says:

      10:09am | 02/09/09

      Yes we do care. I agree with earlier comments. these pollies are out there making promises and showing “leadership” everyday. They subscribe to moral values through thier respective church. Most pollies are elitist church mongerers who believe in Christian values, condemn public acts of violence and misbehaviour, create a nanny-state and then break their own rules. This is an issue of integrity. If he wants to screw around with 20-something girls (I still can NOT believe he picked up a 26yo) then get out of politics where you are in the public eye, taken the oath of office and are supposedly trying to make NSW a better place.

    • wolf says:

      10:23am | 02/09/09

      I have to say I agree with Peter - it’s pretty disgusting to go running to the paper to tell tales which destroys another persons dignity and privacy, yet preserve that right yourself.  It takes two to tango yet only one of them is facing public shame and ridicule.
      On topic I could not care less what anyone else does with their private life.

    • Jan says:

      10:24am | 02/09/09

      No we don’t care.  Also this woman should be identified and embarrassed just as much as she has done to John and his family.  This is a private affair and should have stayed that way. Nasty woman!

    • Joe says:

      10:27am | 02/09/09

      Among other things an affair is a severe breaking of trust.  It is also the breaking of a solemn promise to be faithful until “death do us part”.  It reveals a weakness of character which, while it may be perfectly understandable in some cases, is not something we want in our leaders.

    • Stephen says:

      10:33am | 02/09/09

      Of course we care, for the following reasons:

      1. These people are voted into highly paid jobs without having qualifications or experience to manage budgets that most ASX 100 companies would love to have.  At the very least we would hope they would exercise their power in the interests of the public and not take advantage of their position for self interest reasons.  If a politician can lie to his wife and family how can we expect them to forgo self interest and operate in the public’s interest.

      The other thing is there is no deterrent for him to act in our interest as he is still employed as a minister and will be set for life with his CPI indexed super benefits that are not available to anyother member of the public post 1990’s (approx) no matter how hard they work or their contribution to society.

      2.  If this had been a CEO of a company and he had been proven to neglect his duties on numerous occasions he would have been fired not just relegated to the back bench where he still gets paid, still gets staff, still gets an office and is entitled to his pay notwithstanding he has chosen to allegedly sleep with a girl when he had work duties to perform.

      In summary, he should be sacked from parliament and lets just employ someone to do his job with the correct qualifications.

    • Simo says:

      10:39am | 02/09/09

      Private lives should remain private, him screwing a woman has nothing to do with his job.This is just a story for the goody two shoes to make a big deal about.

    • Patrick McMaster says:

      10:45am | 02/09/09

      Your comment:This is about revenge. Lets be clear some 26 year old Uni student who thought that a high profile NSW Minister and future leader was going to leave his wife and kids to shack up with some nit wit who he just wanted to shag. HE WAS IN IT FOR THE SEX AND THE SEX ONLY. WOW WHAT A REVELATION clearly unit didn’t work very well, what was her major fairy floss making. It takes two to tango and whilst she may wish to call into question Della’s moral fiber, as per usual no questions are being asked of why she agreed to have a sexual relationship with a married powerful man. BECAUSE SHE ENJOYED IT JUST AS MUCH AS HE DID. She rang the Daily telegraph for revenge not money. I am always perplexed by the lengths that Journalist and editors go to to try and deconstruct the very workings of what we like to call an ‘affair’. It’s very simple, no PHD required, take away the sex and the power and there is no ‘affair’. Della enjoyed the attention of somebody half his age and shagging her in his office. She likewise enjoyed the attention from a powerful NSW future premiere. Everybody should take a Bex and have a nanna nap because as we speak many many other politicians in the world are also having ‘affairs’ both male and female and Democracy has not ended yet.

    • Marcwolg says:

      10:46am | 02/09/09

      Although I have no problems with a politician having an affair - that is their own business and they are entitled (and have a right) to have a private life outside of their office and duties. Just like any citizen has a right to have a ome and private life when not at work.

      However - if the affair has a significant impact on their duties then yes.. they should be called out and told that they have gone too far.

      Certainly in this case - missing meetings and appointment just to be with their lover and bring their lover into a secure area for the purposes of having sex. are both area’s that show both a lack of responsibility and of judgement.

    • Fiona Katauskas says:

      10:46am | 02/09/09

      I couldn’t give a rat’s who pollies rub uglies with as long as it’s consensual and legal. Della’s business is his own and I don’t see any parallels between personal sexual behaviour and his professional conduct. Those who say otherwise should extend that logic to anyone who cheats- if a bank manager cheats on his wife, does that mean he’s going to embezzle bank funds? Of course not.

      The only time sexual morality is relevant (other than the legal/consensual issue) is when gross hypocrisy is involved. Were this to happen to Steve Fielding or Fred Nile or any of the other family values obsessed Holier -Than-Thous then yes, that would reflect on their political morality. With anyone else really doesn’t make a sot of difference to me.

      I don’t think Della Bosca should have resigned his ministry, nor should any non-preachy pollie given the same circumstances.

      We’re not the American. Don’t let us adopt their superficial political moralising.

    • Jim (remember him?) says:

      10:50am | 02/09/09

      OK, enough of these kiss-and-tell stories. It’s time to stand up against this pernicious activity, and I’m prepared to be the first.
      I hereby publicly assure several hundred of Australia’s most interesting and attractive female politicians, judges, lawyers, fashion models, actresses, drunk girls met in bars, graduate students, and gossip columnists (THEY ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE!) that they may continue to rely on my complete discretion. No calls to the Telegraph, no 60 Minutes interviews, no boastful Twittering, blogging or toilet wall graffiti, ever.
      Now who will join me in signing the pledge?

    • Jason says:

      11:09am | 02/09/09

      Why is it that we have maters like this - and the Andrew Johns affair - and quite a few others and the WOMEN who choose to speak up and break the story - aren’t being named.

      This is the age of gender equity is it not ? I say the messenger should have their name published.

    • Jane says:

      11:09am | 02/09/09

      Marriage should be just like car registration, with the option to renew at yearly intervals and no financial or social penalty for changing one’s mind. You can’t blame or judge people for growing bored with a spouse, but lying and sneaking around behind someones back in any type of partnership, marital, business, whatever, is a particularly unsavoury behaviour and demonstrates a basic sleaziness of character.

    • Gibbot says:

      11:12am | 02/09/09

      Personally I couldn’t care less if my local member had a running tab at the knock shop, a twenty year smack habit, and a penchant for dressing in liederhausen and barking like a chicken. In fact, any politician that stated as much would have my vote over any one of the current batch of contemptible, pseudo-religious moral crusaders. 

      I am, however, deriving immense satisfaction from Dell Bosca’s downfall, and sincerely hope Neal follows him into well earned obscurity. This is based entirely on my belief that they are a pair of dishonest thugs that couldn’t be trusted to run a bath.

      Tory’s call that Neal should be spared further humiliation doesn’t cut it with me. Having lived for many years in her electorate, I have heard more first hand horror stories than I would care to relate regarding her behaviour. She is spiteful, petty and vindictive and will use whatever personal information she can dig up at the drop of a hat if it furthers her cause. She can suck eggs.

    • Kym Durance says:

      11:15am | 02/09/09

      Clearly some do care - some have even set out reasons why we all should care as well - none of them wash - we probably only know half of the what happens - yet inspite of what I guess is a parade of predatory, exploitative,  and or opportunistic sexual conduct by our political servants ( oh that they should realise that one day! ) the sky hasnt fallen in just yet

    • Garry says:

      11:23am | 02/09/09

      I really am amused by this saga. We are dealing with human beings, fallible, insincere and two faced most of the time. I have no time for Mr Della Bosca and his party but I am a strong believer it takes two to tango he had an affair, she had an affair with a married man - her morals are as suspect as his. I am angry the lady can be hidden from sight and throw mud why? has he been violent to her and she needs her identity protected or is she too ashamed to come out or, simply, it makes better press this way? Did she get paid too?  I am ashamed we like to protect a person who knowingly went into a relationship and when disappointed goes to the press in spite. Sorry but I see it no other way, the woman had spite in mind and should she be protected for that? I await a reasonable answer to that question.

      I really do not give a darn about the love affairs of our political leaders, we have slipped into a time of loose attitudes which is a shame, a terrible one, but we have. Our parents had affairs, their parents did, we do, our kids will do so get over it… grow up and realise the time has changed. I wish not but it has.

      This is not about Della Bosca and his affair but how to destroy a career for political gain. Sure he did wrong, sure he was stupid but too loose his job that’s a party decision. Now we have ‘he may not have been able to perform his job’ well again I do not care that is just a throw away line to deflect the reason for this lady’s coming out. Now Della Bosca will be micro watched and reviewed for that slightest proof… oh look he left the chamber five minutes early to go to the men’s room, could he not wait.. he’s a bad member for his community’... cynical maybe but this saga warrants much of it.

    • Angry says:

      11:26am | 02/09/09

      As an Australian i do care if polies play around. The ones that get caught suffer the consequences…and so they should….for the ones that don’t, and for all the people that have extra marital affairs, shame on you…  If you are miserable in your marriage, then divorce, but don’t play around…..

    • C Ainsworth says:

      11:27am | 02/09/09

      Why was Kevin Rudd not castigated and made to resign over his antics in America with women at a Club that became news prior to the last election.  It was simply brushed aside with media making light of the whole affair.
      Why is Della Bossca treated differently and why is Rudd so quiet on the subject ?
      Why also does the media not name the female and put her Photo on the Front page of the paper . If it is good for the Gander it is good for the goose.

    • Jack P says:

      11:33am | 02/09/09

      It’s not a matter of morality. It simply points to an alarming lack of common sense for someone in a position of influence and authority.

    • Rob says:

      11:42am | 02/09/09

      It is all about character and honesty. Cheating, lies and deception seem to have become so entrenched in politics to the point that the electorate can no longer trust any politician to tell the truth. Generally politicians are paid very well considering their levels of competence to do the jobs they have sought, so politicians owe taxpayers in return a very high level of trust, honesty, integrity and putting the public interest first and foremost. When their lies and deceit are exposed, then they should be immediately be dismissed from Parliament. Australian’s need to considerably raise the bar in respect of the quality and integrity of politicians they elect and pay handsomely to carry out what should be very trustworthy and honourable positions.

    • stuart says:

      11:44am | 02/09/09

      He didn’t resign because he had an affair - if this was the reason he would’ve resigned days/weeks after the affair began.  He resigned because he got caught doing it.  If this woman didn’t go public he’d still be a NSW state minister.  Kopperburg / Della Bosca - it doesn’t matter.  They all sin and only pay the piper once someone else spills the beans.  I’m surprised he hasn’t publicly found God yet though.

    • Hendo says:

      11:45am | 02/09/09

      Yesterday, Della himself clearly wanted to make this a deeply moral issue by apologising to “my church”. Why would he do that? Why didn’t he apologise to the milkman, his mechanic and old school mates while he was at it? I think he churched-up at his presser yesterday to paint himself as a humble and flawed member of the flock, and thus due forvgiveness, a chance to repent and to be redeemed (resurected?). Spot the spin ...

    • John in Alice says:

      11:45am | 02/09/09

      I take exception to the statements made by Mr. Penburthy. To say that Australians consider it a badge of honor that we do NOT have a moral majority is a slap in the face of decent honest workers in this country that cannot be ignored.  While I could give a rats arse who any of our pollies sleeps with, to glorify these less than honorable people is against every positive attribute this country stands for.  These are the people who continue to pay the irresponsible masses to breed.  These are the people who tell us they are going to reduce obeisity by raising taxes on cigarettes.  These people espress concern about our carbon footprint while ignoring the decimation of our beautiful country by motorized toys.  These people are our chair sniffers, adulterers, fornicators and outright thieves who manipulate the laws and finances to suit themselves, a highly paid clown act for the amusement of the masses.
      In one respect Mr.Penburthy is quite right.  After the shameful public display a year ago by Mr. Bosca and his less than charming wife, the couple would have been stripped of their authority, their positions and the respect of a nation had they been American.  Unfortunately for us, Australians place no value on integrity, honesty or honor and Mr. Penburthy has clearly demonstrated his support for all that is wrong with Australian politics.

    • catter says:

      11:50am | 02/09/09

      Well i would say yes.. that we do care.. because if they don’t care about their husband or wife, then why would they care about people they have never met ie. the Australian public? We need our politicians to be seen as honest people, and anyone who has an affair is an extremely dishonest person.

    • Adrian M says:

      11:50am | 02/09/09

      This is more a lifestyle matter than a political matter. How does having a bit on the side impact his Job overall? I think he has overreacted by quitting.

    • Roland says:

      11:50am | 02/09/09

      Quite frankly, I think there should be a criminal offence of attempting to publicly damage a person’s reputation. Truth should have nothing to do with it.
      The woman is worse than he is and comes across as even more hypocritical.
      Private lives should stay private, unless a criminal offence is involved.

    • mcdazz says:

      11:54am | 02/09/09

      C Ainsworth says:

      “Why was Kevin Rudd not castigated and made to resign over his antics in America with women at a Club that became news prior to the last election.  It was simply brushed aside with media making light of the whole affair.

      Why is Della Bossca treated differently and why is Rudd so quiet on the subject ?”

      Are you for real?

      Comparing a visit to a strip club with having an affair?

      Apparently you have a short memory.  Rudds visit to the strip club was front page news and the reason he wasn’t asked to resign was because he didn’t do anything wrong.

      Brendan Nelson also admitted to going to a strip club, and I am sure many other politicians from all parties have as well.

      Tony Abbott was asked if he had - and he refused to answer.

      But seriously, if you are comparing a visit to a strip club with cheating on a partner, then you need to grow up.

    • Bruce says:

      11:55am | 02/09/09

      I am a strong believer in what you do in your private life is your business. However, we elect politicians to represent us and we pay them to do the best job they can in our best interests. Strange things have happened in politics over the years when politicians get involved in affairs and it comes down to influence and which participant is actually pulling the strings. The bedroom is a great place for making “well intentioned” promises !!!

    • mcdazz says:

      11:57am | 02/09/09

      Dean says:

      “Where is PM Rudd? Why is he so silent on the whole matter? Reflection on his own political future?”

      Why should Rudd comment on this?  Do you really want him to comment every time a politician burps, farts or has consenting sex?

    • Louise says:

      12:00pm | 02/09/09

      Remember John Brogden? NSW wouldn’t be saddled with this Government had the media and the suicidal forces inside the NSW Liberal Party not crucified John Brogden. We should be mature enough to leave personal issues outside politics. Everyone has failings. Two good men , Brogden and Della Bosca are lost to politics. NSW as a whole is poorer for it. Give me Brogden and Dell over Rees and O’Farrell any day.

    • iansand says:

      12:05pm | 02/09/09

      We know about this because a tabloid has an exclusive.  If the Telecrap editor had said “Thanks but no thanks” we would all be blissfully ignorant and the gummint would stagger on its appallingly incompetent way (THAT is a real story).  As it is, Team Telecrap nails a scalp to the wall.  Journalism as an Apache raiding party, pillaging and burning. That’s all there is.  There is no more.

    • Realist Chick says:

      12:16pm | 02/09/09

      I wish the media ignored this type of goobly gooble….I just don’t want the image of that man and a young girl…is none of our business and the media is just being silly to be used as a revenge tool for a woman who was dumped.
      Leave us alone and either come clean with her name and photography or we as voters we should be spared the rod!!!

    • ben says:

      12:17pm | 02/09/09

      Why has the Tele not asked every other Minister if they have had an affair?

      Why have they not asked Barry O’Farrell if he would sack or accept the resignation of a Minister having an affair?

      Finally, I do hope the editor and reporter can also declare they have never had a dalliance.

      Disgusting, irrelevant story not worthy of calling itself journalism.

    • John Stewart says:

      12:17pm | 02/09/09

      Pollies need some flirtacious fondlesome fantasies because honestly speaking without substance between their ears they only know how to use their sitting bones - on planes, hire-cars, around conference tables, “late-night bars” and parliamentary couches…

    • Mark W says:

      12:20pm | 02/09/09

      A person who cheats in his/her personal life lacks basic integrity. This is likely to be part of that person’s professional life as well. I think those people who say that private lives should stay that way and don’t impinge on a person’s professional capabilities is missing that point. It’s possible to separate private and professional lives in some regards but each our driven by a person’s basic character so there cannot be complete separation.

    • P says:

      12:37pm | 02/09/09

      Really who cares. I’m sure there are thousands of people all over Australia having affairs at this very moment. But I bet they are all going about there day to day work as normal. Why is it that for some reason politicians can’t or am I missing something I think not.Private and Business life are seperate end of story

    • Bruno says:

      12:39pm | 02/09/09

      I think the Australian government should abolish the institution of marriage. Its a sham and kids should be raised in factories. I mean mothers can raise them if they choose to however fathers should not be made to pay compensation. Is it any wonder society is going straight to hell in a hand basket. Some of these posters are the same people who complain about kids going off the rails. Of course kids have got no idea, listen to the ideas, thoughts and opinions of some of these adults.

    • David C says:

      12:44pm | 02/09/09

      The issue for me is that there is a question over wether or not he neglected his duties to nip out for a quickie, that is reson to resign or be sacked. The morality of it all is a non-isse. This is a secular society after all.
      Re the comment about US and moral majority , didnt seem to affect Bill Clinton too much.

    • Dave says:

      12:44pm | 02/09/09

      Does it matter if pollies cheat on their spouses?  Frankly no, except when they present an image of the devoted partner or if they bend the rules to accomodate their illicit liasons, or when they put their extra marital affairs ahead of their public duties.  Della Bosac has done all 3.

    • C.Long says:

      12:46pm | 02/09/09

      Yes we do care. An absolute distraction from his job as Minister of the Crown. Neglect of duty. We the taxpayers pay fior theses facilities and salaries and cars and superannuation etc. An absolute dosgrace and he should ewsign immediately from he Legislative Council. But he won’t will he? Why leave Parliament when you can sit out your tme there and get the fatcat pension.
      If he had the guts he would have left his wife and moved in with his girlfriend. Come out in the open.
      That is the absolute finish of Della and Belinda politically. Good ridance.
      Our forefasthetrs used to sit in Parliament for the honour of public service. No salary, nothomnh-volunterered.

    • Gibbot says:

      12:49pm | 02/09/09

      “A person who cheats in his/her personal life lacks basic integrity. This is likely to be part of that person’s professional life as well.”

      Mark W (and others) - by your reasoning if a politician attends church they are unfit to govern, because if they believe in nonsense like virgin births & resurrection they lack basic intelligence, which very likely carries into their professional life.

    • Bill says:

      12:59pm | 02/09/09

      One of the good points of Australia’s political journalist is that they do not in general go after pollies private lives. For example, one of Howard’s front bench was gay. To their credit the media never reported who it was.

      Unfortunately News Ltd are setting a new trend.  First the fake photos of Hanson and now this. Private matters are private matters. Anyone who thinks that our pollies are not having affairs or even having affairs with one another is wrong.

    • Nick says:

      01:03pm | 02/09/09

      That would be the Paul Keating who dumped his wife over dinner with friends, wouldn’t it?

      Of course it matters if politicians cheat on their wives. Such cheating is lying, it’s making a promise then breaking it. So if they’re cheaters and liars in their private lives, why should we trust them not to cheat and lie to us? And once proven a cheat and liar, why shouldn’t we chuck them out?

    • ben says:

      01:06pm | 02/09/09

      Penbo:-

      Would you have run the yarn when you were editor?

    • Formersnag says:

      01:09pm | 02/09/09

      It would be interesting, to see, how many of these leftards, would be, “taking the high moral ground”, saying that, it does not matter about their, (politician’s), private life, if it had been a conservative politician, caught with his pants down.

    • Steve says:

      01:08pm | 02/09/09

      If his own spouse can’t trust him then how can the electorate trust him? On that basis it is very much our business. Yes affairs do happen. That doesn’t for a second make them right or excusable. I think it is reasonable for people who run for political office to adhere to a higher moral standard. Otherwise it’s sheer hypocrisy for them stand in parliament and shape the very laws which dictate what we can and can’t do.

    • ella fitzgerald says:

      01:15pm | 02/09/09

      since when does the milkman get a look in anymore?  who are you people?

    • Fiona says:

      01:21pm | 02/09/09

      I couldn’t care less about their private lives. I would only care if they were hypocritical enough to tell other people how to live their private lives. So if they don’t preach it, they don’t breach it - that’s my view on it. Besides that, Ella has made a good point, people. Where is the milkman lately? (And more to the point, what’s he been up to?)

    • Mark W says:

      01:39pm | 02/09/09

      To Gibbot- A person who attends church doesn’t necessarily go because s/he believes in the virgin birth or resurrection. Moreover many churchgoers are intelligent. There are other good and valid reasons why people attend church so your argument is illogical. But the issue is whether a cheating politician is fit to govern or not. It’s one of those grey areas and the debate about it is interesting.
      Btw-I’m not a churchgoer.

    • Haven Maven says:

      01:41pm | 02/09/09

      I remember some years ago I was in the UK and a huge political scandal broke out when a pollie admitted to some kinky stuff involving being trussed up like a pig with an apple stuffed in his mouth. Front page news and of course he resigned with his tail between his legs. At the time I recall thinking - wow, if this happened in Aussie politics it’d just be a heartly slap on the back and a ‘good on ya, ya goose’!!  And I remember Bob Hawke crying about cheating on Hazel, and how he was generally accepted as bening a bloke with flaws. 
      Do I care personally? Not really.  But it is interesting to see that the media are now seeming to take a more ‘moral’ spin on this.

    • Nicholas James says:

      01:46pm | 02/09/09

      I find the conversation here fascinating. At the risk of sounding patronising, I feel it a great reflection on our nation that we are so opinionated and willing to share it.

      However, in regard to the article itself, it is the first two paragraphs that have driven me to share my feelings.

      “As a general statement, we say that we don’t much care whether our politicians are cheating on their partners.”

      WRONG. Yes, we are rebels, a remnant from our outlaw past. However, I’d say the number one quality that we share as a nation is what we label “mateship”. However, it is not so much “mateship” per se, but rather loyalty that forms one of the founding stones of our national society and cultural identify.

      Infidelity, for whatever reasons - granted the situation can be infinitely complex - displays a lack of loyalty. There are other ways to deal with this situation that does not involve being disloyal, at least not physically; emotionally is a separate matter.

      If I see a politician striding down the street, papers in hand dodging photographers tripping over corporate fauna as they scurry through footpath garden as they try to capture the most unflattering image to run with the headline “affair” what comes to mind? Disloyal, unbalanced moral character, that they have internal issues impinging on their judgement.

      If we as a nation of rebels, of outlaws, of stock derived from such anarchic roots, provide an individual with the responsibility, the honour of being in a position to lead us they better damn well do a good job because we don’t really like political leaders. I feel that the Australian public is perhaps one of the LEAST forgiving constituencies in the world. If you display characteristics that don’t fall under the banner of being a “good bloke” (excuse the political incorrectness) then good luck leading us.

      We may be reasonably apathetic politically, but that is because everything, really, is pretty cruisey. Thus we may “just shrug their shoulders and say: well, nobody’s perfect, politicians are human too” but good luck trying to lead us as a people.

      In reference to David’s comment that it’s “a badge of honour for us that we’re not like the United States” I’d say that yes, we are proud that we are not exactly like the US but at the same time I’d challenge anyone out there to find another nation state - aside from the UK - that is more similar to us as a society.

      One key difference between the US and us Aussies is that they have free speech and political correctness is a guideline, not a law. David states that in the US, “...the moral majority wields tremendous influence…” How is that different to us? We are a society with extremely rigid moral awareness and whilst opinions may differ, the moral foundation of our society is no doubt shared. It is also a moral foundation we share with the US, like it or not. The key difference being that in the US many feel that this foundation stems from Christian values.

      David also claims that in the US, as opposed to here, “...any hint of infidelity will destroy a career.” Bill “Slick Willy” Clinton? I’d like to see KRudd play hide the Cuban on Sunday and come out as PM on Monday. Or how about pulling a Sarkozy? How about if KRudd won the privilege to lead us as a nation then dumped the Mrs and married Laura Bingle? I’d like to see the Australian public “shrug” that off.

      We are an extremely unforgiving public with an almost infallible societal moral foundation that stems from our roots as a distant colony and searching for ontological security in the midst of insecurity - all we had were our values; mateship.

      I think the author of this article has simply got it wrong. 

      And in regard to the below quote,

      “You can spare us the lectures from the holy-rollers, most of whom will eventually be sprung inside a $55-a-night Formula One motor inn dressed as Shirley Temple.”

      I wonder when such public slander of people of faith will become as socially unacceptable in Australia as the singling out and slandering of other groups.

    • Stephen Johnson says:

      01:49pm | 02/09/09

      Good heavens, it’s their job to keep us entertained.  No-one has yet thanked John and Belinda for the amusement they have given us,especially over the past year or so.  May there be more of it.

    • Mark M says:

      01:59pm | 02/09/09

      Sure it’s a private matter, but if you choose to be a public figure, then obviously you want to be, and are going to be noticed more than people who aren’t in the public eye.  You may even hope your voters consider you to be trustworthy!?!  Della Bosca couldn’t be stupid enough to assume that noone would ever raise any suspicion, or that this girl would keep her secret forever.  Or could he be?  It must be encouraging for plenty of people who aren’t very smart, to think that some day they could become a government minister.

    • dan says:

      02:01pm | 02/09/09

      I agree with those here that have a problem with a politician preaching one thing to the public and then acting a completely different way behind closed doors. AKA: I believe in family and I’ll attack anyone who doesn’t fit my view, but behind closed doors I’ll shag my secretary.  I don’t care what someone does in their own time/lives, I wouldn’t care if I voted for a politician who enjoyed cross dressing on the weekend and went dancing in nightclubs as long as they fulfilled their job and their social life had no effect on their work performance.

    • fehowarth says:

      02:04pm | 02/09/09

      I am surprised to find Della Bosca in this position.  You cannot say much for the woman involved as she is milking it for all she it is worth.  She knew he was married but persisted with the relationship.  I presume that Della Bosca called the relationship off, leading to the woman seeking revenge.  Della Bosca has shown some decency by refusing to talk about her or the relationship.  How do we know he deceived his wife?  What goes on in a members private life is his and his family’s business.  What was reinforce by most yesterday was that he was a effective minister.  That is all the public has a right to make decisions about. At least we know now where the Telegraph has been getting their stories for the last for weeks.  If the Telegraph’s agenda was to get rid of the Premier, they have failed badly.  The revelations have been a circuit breaker and let him off the hook.

    • Trish J says:

      02:08pm | 02/09/09

      If we don’t care about our MPs having affairs then we should.  Everyone body is human and we all make mistakes, however, anybody that has ever been around people that have had affairs will have seen the lying, duplicity and betrayal that go hand in hand with the excitement.  If people can essentially lead double lives though lying and deceit then we do need to question these peoples ability to make decisions for a community that has a very broad base of values.

    • Cousin It says:

      02:16pm | 02/09/09

      Who gives a crap?  I’m dying to see the young chicky, she most be a Adams Family cast away to pair up with John.

    • Linda says:

      02:20pm | 02/09/09

      It wasn’t the affair itself but the embarassment caused on top of a catalogue of the same which was the motivation for his stepping down. Two questions I would like to ask are: How many people in Parliament knew about this dalliance - you know in the place where they reckon not a single government member knew that they had an accused and under investigation paedophile in their midst for three months? Will there be an invesitigation into the offer of a job to the young woman - in the place where not only was the staffer who reported the crimes of Milton Orkopoulos got rid of, but after years of ALP membership, including working for a number of ALP Members not a single one has even so much as spoken to her since let alone tried to ensure that she remained employed? No doubt Della still has friends in the ALP - she has few at any level - the traitor! Twisted morality or what?

    • VS says:

      02:22pm | 02/09/09

      The peccadilloes of our politicians are mere triflings and are common these days. Why just the other day I had to wait for my bus driver to complete his act of copulation before we moved away from the kerb. Unfortunately our bus driver was feeling randy so we had to suffer through two more episodes of copulation before we reached Bondi. I am quite sure that his depot manager is very understanding and his employment contract will remain in place.

    • Shayla says:

      02:23pm | 02/09/09

      I don’t think affairs matter. But in this case there are allegations of it being carried out in Parliamentary chambers, and that he was engineering reasons to travel to see her - those are the factors that I have issues with

    • John says:

      02:28pm | 02/09/09

      What personally had me following this whole affair-affair is the accusation that he snuck the woman into Parliament to have sex in his office and made sure she didn’t have to sign in. Avoiding security procedures is a big no-no. Forcing a security guard to side-step procedures just so he can hide he is having sex in his office? If that is true and can be substatianted then he should face some type of discipline for it.

    • Helen Kuiper says:

      02:51pm | 02/09/09

      This story shows complete arrogance and also that he has no hesitation in threatening the little people to abuse his power, like the security guard at Parliament House. That story is very similar to the accusations in the Iguanagate affair. And also leaving those hard working people in our seriously damaged health system to open that section without him, after they worked around his attendance at 2 weeks notice!! How completely arrogant. If his story is true that he really missed the plane, he could have hired a private plane or caught the next one. He must think that we are stupid to tell us that yarn.

    • Mark W says:

      02:52pm | 02/09/09

      Exactly, John. Which takes me back to my original argument and that of many other people who have commented here-you cannot separate private behaviour and public office-they invariably overlap. A cheat in private life will probably cheat in professional life-we, the taxpayers, who pay pollies’ salaries should expect value for money. I ,for one, don’t want my hard-earned cash given to a person who is having a clandestine affair in his workplace. I could also comment on what I think about men in their fifties who chase women in their twenties-but that is my personal opinion and has nothing to do with the issue under discussion in this forum.

    • Paul says:

      02:56pm | 02/09/09

      It is difficult to imagine how a married politician could have an affair without it effecting his work life, otherwise where does he find the time?

      For the most part I don’t care what people do in their private lives however I don’t think it’s unreasonable that people want those trusted with power to be the best of us.

      If his marriage oath means so little to him then what should we expect of his parliamentary oath?

      If he’ll risk his children’s happiness for his own then what should the people of NSW expect him to put ours in front of his own?

      Perhaps he may be no worse than the average Australian but that is not good enough when you are taking a position that should be reserved for our best. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want the men and women who have power over us to be honourable. If we have learned to accept less then I think that is a shame.

      I suppose the trick is in finding enough who are both honourable and competent.

    • Ben says:

      03:07pm | 02/09/09

      Minister’s travel with staff - yet the Tele story made out he was somehow travelling to the hospital opening on his own. 

      The staffer could have corroborated the bloke’s story…but then all the Tele would have been left with is allegations of sex on a couch.

      Another case of deliberate self serving omission.

      The journalistic standards on this story are non-existent.

    • MichaelonMondayon2SM says:

      03:08pm | 02/09/09

      Is there not also the question of honesty, integrity etc whatever you call it there is the side to this that is if someone in public life is not honest to their own spouse how can the public believe anything they say?

    • Gibbot says:

      03:08pm | 02/09/09

      Mark W - point noted. I was deliberately making a broad generalisation to counter what I saw as a broad generalisation. I’m not actually suggesting that every person who attends church is mentally deficient.

      My point is that if someone is talented at their job, I don’t care if they spend their weekends smoking crack and playing pin the tail on the ladyboy. Morality is very subjective. Performance is much more quantifiable.

      That’s not an issue with Della Bosca, however. Not unless he was actually minister for thuggery.

    • sandhya says:

      03:08pm | 02/09/09

      It does not matter what other people say John Della Bosca is the only person who probably will have to deal with this for the rest of his life…....he will have to confront his personal demons on a day to day basis

    • Real News says:

      03:13pm | 02/09/09

      ...did someone say intrest rates are going up at the end of the year?

    • Jock says:

      03:47pm | 02/09/09

      I think the lass concerned should continue to be unnamed. She would be racked by low self esteem. This is shown in her choice of lover. He is the public figure and as they say in the states; it goes to character. One other point, if he had been Liberal the media and ibn particular the ABC would have crucified him. However I note the screaming silence from the ABC on Boscas misdemeanor. As this is how they see it I think we should continue to castigate Bosca.

    • Steve says:

      04:03pm | 02/09/09

      Yes I care.  When a politician is either swayed by opportunities for sex ; or uses their power to gain sex - always provides evidence of a weak person who is unable to control their emotions- and I don’t want weak politicians in my Parliament. Informing me of these events allows me to adjust my vote accordingly.

    • Kay says:

      04:05pm | 02/09/09

      This woman purports to have a university education.  What is happening in our Unis?  Is common sense not part of the curriculum?  How dumb and manipulative of both her and Della Bonker to behave the way they did.  Of course he lied to her - doh!  he is a politician!!  So she is angry and hurt - she obviously believes that this gives her the right to make the family - an innocent party - also feel this way.

    • David says:

      04:05pm | 02/09/09

      Could not care less about their personal lives as long they do their job properly . Those of you who are bitching , pull your collective heads in , and continue practicing your onanism you wankers !

    • max says:

      04:51pm | 02/09/09

      I honestly don’t care even if Della Bosca slept with a man. What I cared was that he should have been sacked during Iguana gate by using his position to threaten the public. I also want to see that his macho wife, Nealy sacked too.

    • Trude says:

      05:05pm | 02/09/09

      You’re right, I don’t care what they do in their personal lives as long as they’re doing their jobs. The political scandals where they’re wasting time and energy on setting each other up etc really get my goat, but sleeping around outside work, who cares? People from all walks of life are unfaithful, but if they do their job they shouldn’t be penalised at work for it.

    • SuziHB says:

      05:14pm | 02/09/09

      Yes I do care about people having affairs. Be they the man/woman next door or a Celebrity or a Politician. They are breaking their marriage vows, or at least betraying their chosen life partner. As a woman whose now ex-husband had an affair for 15 months with a woman just because he could, I know what an affair does to a family. He had to make a choice and chose his family first and foremost. I forgave him but the trust never comes back and after 9 more years I realised I no longer was in Love with him. It is dreadfully hard to overcome an affair, and I would hazard a guess those that have gone through such emotional turmoil can never ‘go back to the way it once was’ and heal that gaping wound. I would say John Della Bosca has a lot of tap dancing to do in public and in private (with his wife and family). These kind of people need to act their age and consider the consequences.

    • Macca the valley says:

      05:23pm | 02/09/09

      I don’t know what she sees in him, it has to be because he is is a politician, definately wasn’t the looks department.

    • Robinoz says:

      05:44pm | 02/09/09

      I don’t live in NSW, so he’s not one of my pollies. However, who cares who politicians bonk provided it’s consensual and the partner is of legal age. It’s a matter for him, the bonking parner and his wife to sort out.

      All I expect from my members of parliament are that they do a good job and be honest in their dealings about government-related matters.

      I’d love to have an affair with a 26 year old girl.

    • Brad Coward says:

      06:14pm | 02/09/09

      I don’t really mind who my local MP is shagging, so long as it’s not on my time or at my expense !  Strangely, the pollies who have been caught out have been right ugly buggers.  Let’s those of us who aren’t “portraits in oils” feel that we’re still in there with a chance with the young chicks !

    • Mark W says:

      06:23pm | 02/09/09

      Robinoz, let me guess-you are somewhere between 50 and 100?

    • Leah says:

      06:35pm | 02/09/09

      Gaah. I don’t know. On the one hand I feel as long as they are making good decisions for their electorate/portfolio it doesn’t matter what goes on in their private life. On the other hand I think, if their values are so out of line with mine, should they be representing me? If they care so little for their family, do we really want them running our country/state/city? And there is a difference between a one-night stand which can be an ‘honest’ mistake and an ongoing six month affair.

    • Tigepie says:

      06:37pm | 02/09/09

      If this affair was conducted in the privacy of their own homes it would be nobody’s business, affairs happen every day and many members of the general public would be complete hypocrites to suggest otherwise. 
      However, when it has impacted on his work as he has claimed - missing hospital openings and what not - that is when it crosses the line to being in the public’s interest.
      Porking within State government property is a breach of the public’s trust.  I’m glad this has come to light before he had the chance to become premier, but I’m equally as sorry we’ve all had to read all about it… Vomit!

    • Andrew says:

      07:19pm | 02/09/09

      To use a car analogy, as long as he is driving this state in the right direction, I dont care what fuel he puts in his tank, so to speak…

    • Ben says:

      08:26pm | 02/09/09

      That this affair is even a news item is pathetic.
      First, it speaks absolute volumes for the DT’s ethics that it allows a woman who is clearly acting over anger at the end of an affair (which btw she admits she was an enthusiastic partner in) to satisfy her vengence without making it clear they would also identify her. Why is she allowed the luxury of anonymity? Because she isn’t a well known politician who can generate massive head lines and sales? She was happy enough to participate in an affair with a public figure and after all does she think that she would have been afforded the same vehicle to exact vengence if her lover wasn’t a public figure?
      Secondly, what do these people who harp on and on about morality expect? That politicians, footballers, athletes of any kind, soapie starlets to be as pure as the driven snow? Why? These arch moralists seem to think that because these people have public profiles that they ipso facto role models and subject to a higher moral code - what a joke.
      Putting aside the crass irony of these of our self appointed moralists appointing boofhead sportmen and bimbo startlets moral beacons in the first place, they could learn from history - for example the excesses of puritan Britain or revolutionary France.
      When you create a frenzy of moral panic where depravity etc is alleged to be everywhere you inevitably create a situation where there is less and less freedom as more and more is deemed unacceptable.
      Della Bosca didn’t murder someone. Our The Punch online moral campaigners don’t know what when on between Della Bosca and Neale so how can they legitimately whip themselves into a moral frenzy on behalf of her?
      As for the media when are they going to stop being so self righteous. When is someone going to expose a media commentator’s extra marital fling on the basis of alleged impact on their reporting? Do you think that there are no finance journalists boffing stock brokers, no political staff bofffing political journalists, nurses doing doctors etc etc and the yet the world goes and these people keep doing their jobs with same competence or lack of it as before the only difference in this case is that NOW YOU KNOW only because one woman bitter woman decided to get even.

    • me my mo says:

      09:16pm | 02/09/09

      What is so difficult to understand that those who make legislation that ultimately dictates how we live our lives should at least have some moral sustenance? It’s bad enough that we have people with journalism-type degrees dictating fiscal policy.

    • Xerxes says:

      10:45pm | 02/09/09

      Della Bosca and Neale are the principle and perfected purveyors of putrefaction that is NSW Labor,
      There is something rotten in the State of Denmark.

    • liz says:

      11:04pm | 02/09/09

      hey mcDazz, the reason Ruddy has to weight in is cause he is the Labor head honcho. He has to take the credit for the good and face the bad, part and parcel of a leader’s job. Unfortunately he isn’t much of a leader.

    • Karma Kommeth says:

      11:36pm | 02/09/09

      It depends.  It it were a nobody from nowhere, no-one would really give a rats, other than a few rushing out to buy some packets of Twisties.  But this is a high-profile Labor Brother who was rearing up behind his boss to lunge the knife, just before he was sprung with his dacks around his ankles. In this case, it’s part of the package. He’d better watch out on the home front.

    • davido says:

      12:41am | 03/09/09

      Roland, my hero. I agree that there should be a malicious defamation cause. If you can someone is malicious in there attempts to damage your character, truth should be irrelevant.

    • My name is Jane says:

      12:53am | 03/09/09

      We’re copping the ugly face of politics in spades.  I’m left wondering about the timing of all this.  What I’m also left wondering is how this is so unacceptable but when one polly left his family to impregnate the daughter (who also walked out of a marriage) of an ALP doyen, not a whisper was raised.  There seem to be a LOT of double standards with this particular group and some of their supporters.

    • ColleenG says:

      01:29am | 03/09/09

      When people have affairs and it all goes pear shaped as they do, do they then run to their local rag and get the local journo to run a story on the whole story, No, why? Because no one is interested that they’ve made a fool of themselves and most people don’t want others to know when they’ve cocked up. So I’m quite gob smacked as to why this girl put her cock up (pun intended, it’s just to easy) all over the net and all the papers and as for Della he didn’t have a hope, genetics, age he was doomed. Silly old git.

    • Lester says:

      01:45am | 03/09/09

      What a load of crap. Listen you wowser tossers, I could name at least two current Federal Ministers and a couple of backbenchers who are carrying on extra-marital affairs and have done, whenever some starry eyed bimbo decides to latch on to the coat-tails of the powerful. Its been going on for as long as policitians have been breathing. I spent many years commuting between my home and Canberra for Parliamentary sittings and the behaviour of some of the incumbents beggars belief. I’m too loyal to name and shame those concerned , firstly because it’s none of my busines to publically judge the behaviour of other people and second, it’s no-one elses business what people do in their private lives. Did Richard Pratt (the cardboard king) suffer any loss of business acumen for all the years he kept another women. Of course not. I can’t stand either Rees, Della Bosca or Belinda Neal. However, this smacks of political assassination, something which both, NSW Right and Left are experts,. So people, take a Bex and have lie down. PLEASE.

    • Margaret says:

      07:41am | 03/09/09

      No - I DON"T care about the affair.  If everyone who had an affair was asked to cease work, then I suspect there would be a lot of people staying home today.  I care about the fact that this Kate Neill has taken her chagrin at being dumped into the public arena for nothing more noble than revenge.  & in doing so, the selfish little coward chose to destroy MR DB’s family whilst maintaining anonymity for herself!! THAT’s what I care about

    • Radagast says:

      08:49am | 03/09/09

      Before the 2004 Federal Election, 65% of Australians thought the Prime Minister was a liar. 80% of those didn’t care.
      Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    • Patricia Panetta says:

      10:16am | 03/09/09

      To all the man in good position and money
      Kate is pretty and knows exactly how to manipulate man with
      Money money money.
      Sorry John! next time don’t go for their looks

      Patricia

    • Johno says:

      10:17am | 03/09/09

      I think the question should be do you want someone in government that doesn’t feel guilt and remorse. Honesty in some ways is partly a product of these, but the end result shows how the person sees other people.

    • ess says:

      11:34am | 03/09/09

      I can’t understand why anyone cares!  But I would like to ask this: “how is this girl so screwed up at the age of 26?”

    • TobyHunter says:

      11:52am | 03/09/09

      I’m just cut that a ugly fat old dude, that is as boring as a politician…get’s more tail than i do. He did well! She was a good catch! He did well, by dumping her, as this is clearly a vindictive revenge career killing move.

      Agree with the others, who cares?  I think it’s even more preferable, as he represents a true human, faults and all. I would rather have him represent me as a citizen, than the fake Kevin multi lingual Rudd. Doesn’t kevin remind you of that kid in school, the nerd, that everybody hated because he thought he was better than everybody else, and spoke in the Queen’s English?

    • Peter says:

      11:56am | 03/09/09

      So what. What’s her excuse for being so faithful to her boyfriend. I suppose we will get the usual excuse. Oh I was raped or molested as a child. Thats why I did this.
      Sorry but I am getting really tired of this being trotted out every time some woman puts here foot in her mouth. It just detracts from the real victims. Yes I really am waiting for the excuse.

    • pete says:

      01:57pm | 03/09/09

      I wonder if pollies should have their own STD clinic? The acronym being sexually transmitted disasters clinic.  John you are the same as the rest of us you have the same blunders and successes we do, and you put your hand up when you need to

    • Marjorie says:

      02:00pm | 03/09/09

      I care about politicians having affairs, especially if it is tax dollars paying for their tete-a-tete dinners and fancy hotel rooms.

    • TC says:

      02:00pm | 03/09/09

      no, i dont care as long as they manage the portfolio well. but i do care about mentally unstable women who go into affairs with their eyes open, and then smear the men they fool around with by playing the victim card.  these low class tramps bring it down for all women in business and politics

    • Paul Horn says:

      02:25pm | 03/09/09

      Yes this whole situation is very strange Mr Penberthy! Strange due to the massive double standards our sexually secular counterculture has foisted upon our moral conscience!!

      Every day cursed womens magazines run story after story after story of some trendy young rock star involved in every conceivable form of sexual depravity and perversion. Why “No Idea” last week was running a cover story about Britney Queers XXX visit to Australia??? or somewhere with a big picture of her bikini clad body vomited all over the front page.  And women (and men) absolutely crave it!

      Sex is now owned by the media where once it was protected by the church!  Everywhere you go one is assaulted by sexually explicit imagery. You have no choice despite the rantings of progressive morons who scream and shout that you don’t have to consume it if you don’t want to. Stinking CRAP! Just the other day I was driving behind a bus bearing a massive advertisement of a woman in extremely short shorts squatting down with her hand on her crotch undoubtedly simulating an act of sexual intimacy. Sex is nothing but a damned commodity so why should we care if this bloke gets a bit on the side?

      The same hypocrites and media scum who go on about this blokes sexual infidelity are the same folk who happily sell this filth in magazines and wax lyrical about the excesses of the great countercultural heroes such as Mick Jagger and Pelvis Presely , two of the greatest philanderers of the 20th century if ever a such a title can be awarded! In fact the media filth glory in their indiscretions. 

      The media never ran this story because of this mans inability to do his job but only because of the titillation value sexual indiscretion brings. The media whoop it up and desire nothing more than to provide every salacious detail to a ravenous public! The same public that would jump at the chance to purchase a Mick Jagger ticket and happily bask in the afterglow of his rancid 60’s countercultural street cred.  Damned hypocrites the lot of ya! 

    • Oz says:

      03:05pm | 03/09/09

      Seems to me that the Liberal party should recruit a ‘shag squad’ to start sleeping with ALP pollies and then (under the cover of anonymity of course)force them to resign by exposing their shenanigans in the ever willing press.  Perhaps we could make it a weekly reality tv show? 

    • shano says:

      03:18pm | 03/09/09

      There’s only one thing worse than having one woman angry with you.
      And that’s having TWO women angry with you.
      GOOD LUCK BUDDY.
      How the hell did this old fart “Politician” pull a 26 year-old anyway.
      Sting or maybe that Spiderman guy or someone in that kind of “cool” vein, if you catch my drift, but a POLITICIAN. hhmmmff??????
      I don’t get it.?  I know power is an aphrodisiac, but surely even it has it’s limitations

    • im says:

      03:35pm | 03/09/09

      Low standards are what we have come to expect from politicians and the media.

    • John says:

      03:37pm | 03/09/09

      An affair may be private but when a politician uses taxpayers funds for beds, food and drinks, then it should be exposed. He simply broek the rules as a politician.

    • LC says:

      03:38pm | 03/09/09

      What does Peter Beattie think about this one?

    • LG says:

      03:55pm | 03/09/09

      What kind of man lies to his wife and children & can’t keep his lust under control? A liar, a weak man, an amoral man, a cheat. I don’t want this kind of man in parliament, making laws that we are expected to live by.  Before you rush to excuse his behaviour, would you be so forgiving if it was your partner doing the cheating?

    • Matt Worthington says:

      06:14pm | 03/09/09

      So many self righteous people it makes me sick.

      What a horrible little girl she must have been to go public with this.
      To destroy someones career because she is scorned.

      All blokes be careful when thinking with your lower half.
      Everyone knows a mans biggest weakness is his lower half and people will use that to their advantage.

      Thank god for the morally righteous otherwise there would be no news to report.

    • Frances says:

      06:36pm | 03/09/09

      Well Kate has been exposed now, and as they say what goes around comes around let her feel embarrassed now for exposing herself as well as her former lover.  Kate Neill aka Harmony.  Hmm not much harmony there.

    • jonny says:

      08:46am | 04/09/09

      it does matter because he clearly can’t be trusted.

      surely that’s the whole point about being a politician… you have to be trusted…

 

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