It was his time to shine.

Picture: Ray Strange

Liberal Senator Cory Bernardi has always been outspoken on the issues of gay marriage and multiculturalism. So what a week to go out: Gay marriage bills facing both houses of Parliament, Muslim riots on the streets and terror raids in Melbourne.

Mr Bernardi resigned from his post as parliamentary secretary to the Leader of the Opposition yesterday following ridiculous comments connecting gay marriage to bestiality.

On the Senate floor the previous night, Bernardi had said: “There are even some creepy people out there . . . who say that it is OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals . . . will that be a future step”.

Bernardi’s remarks were unsurprising. It’s not like he hasn’t put forward ideas from the lunar right before.

Here’s Bernardi on the education system, for instance.

Our education system is being corrupted by politically correct government funded propaganda…. Am i the only one to wonder why the government will happily spend millions of dollars to assist the proselytising of Islam but insist that Bible stories have no place in our school system?

Ridiculous. More than 60 per cent of Australians are Christians. There are more than 2000 Catholic schools in Australia. The Bible’s not going anyway in schools - for people who want it.

Meanwhile, only 2.2 per cent of the population are Islamic. I don’t see any reason for Bernardi to panic.

Christians in the parliament are repeatedly told to check their moral values at the doors of Parliament House so they aren’t determining important decisions on the things that really matter – decisions about life or death. Interestingly, few atheists, agnostics, the one Muslim or Members of Parliament with other beliefs have the same demands made of them.

Who would tell Cory Bernardi to check his values at the door? The man is all “values”.

He brought into the country Geert Wilders, who has compared the Koran to Mein Kampf

And as an answer to Earth Hour, Bernardi set up “Human Achievement Hour”. A celebration of human progress where the lights will be kept on. Funny joke, briefly - but a measure of his policy seriousness.

It’s quite likely the party kept him around in such a significant position because of his relations with the extreme right.

He was, after all, influential in setting up an “infrastructure” for the country’s right-wing grassroots. He started “CanDO”, a GetUp! of the like for conservatives; the Menzies House website and the Conservative Leadership Foundation for youth.

Moving to the backbench means he’s got that much more scope to be vocal on what he believes in. Interesting times ahead. Makes you wonder who else in his party is subscribing to his more out-there views.

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    • Mr. Jordon says:

      06:04am | 20/09/12

      Yes please more honesty of the Coalition MPs.

      Maybe they do a Mitt Romney and tell us what they really thing of the poor?

    • nihonin says:

      08:16am | 20/09/12

      Mr. Jordan, what about more honesty from not just the Coalition, ho about all MP’s, Greens, Independents and of course your favorite party Labor.

    • acotrel says:

      08:53am | 20/09/12

      He looks like Scott Morrison, another pseudo- christian hypocrite. They both examplify the ethos of the LNP !

    • Mr. Jordon says:

      09:00am | 20/09/12

      I’m being sarc/.

      More honesty that will lose them the election.

    • nihonin says:

      10:26am | 20/09/12

      As opposed to….........what, the truth Labor keep spinning, Mr. Jordan.

    • Joe says:

      01:30pm | 20/09/12

      Looks to me as it is Bernardi who had some sex experience with animals.
      Sick person not fit to be a senator,unless he represent his animals.

    • Jokular says:

      01:41pm | 20/09/12

      So /sarc is your abbreviated version of ‘caught with foot in mouth’ Mr. Jordon, you seem to be quite competent undertaking that maneuver.

    • year of the dragon says:

      02:00pm | 20/09/12

      Mr. Jordon says:06:04am | 20/09/12

      “Maybe they do a Mitt Romney and tell us what they really thing of the poor? “

      He was referring to the welfare dependent who are unlikely to vote for him. In what way was he disparaging the poor?

    • Mr. Jordon says:

      02:18pm | 20/09/12


      tell what do you think my second sentence means?

      “Maybe they do a Mitt Romney and tell us what they really thing of the poor?”

      It was a massive screw up. So therefore, more of the same please.

      What part of this do you not understand?

    • Lucifer says:

      02:36pm | 20/09/12

      Being a churchy automatically makes you a hood person. Typo!?

    • Mr. Jordon says:

      03:15pm | 20/09/12

      @ year of the dragon says: 02:00pm | 20/09/12

      From The Weely Standard, William Kristol

      It’s worth recalling that a good chunk of the 47 percent who don’t pay income taxes are Romney supporters—especially of course seniors (who might well “believe they are entitled to heath care,” a position Romney agrees with), as well as many lower-income Americans (including men and women serving in the military) who think conservative policies are better for the country even if they’re not getting a tax cut under the Romney plan. So Romney seems to have contempt not just for the Democrats who oppose him, but for tens of millions who intend to vote for him.

    • cheap white trash says:

      06:13am | 20/09/12

      Who would tell Cory Bernardi to check his values at the door? The man is all “values”.
      He brought into the country Geert Wilders, who has compared the Koran to Mein Kampf.
      And Chris Bowen lets in Islamic fundamentalist, Taji Mustafa,who spoke at a conference organised by Hizb ut-Tahrir, a group who has disdain for Western values and sympathy for jihad.

      And as an answer to Earth Hour, Bernardi set up “Human Achievement Hour”. A celebration of human progress where the lights will be kept on. Funny joke, briefly - but a measure of his policy seriousness.
      Yeah and earth hour would have to be the biggest joke of all time,Earth Hour,should be renamed Wanking Hour.

      Moving to the backbench means he’s got that much more scope to be vocal on what he believes in. Interesting times ahead. Makes you wonder who else in his party is subscribing to his more out-there views.
      Just maybe more people out in voter land think that he is on the MONEY?

    • Peter says:

      09:23am | 20/09/12

      “Earth Hour, should be renamed Wanking Hour”

      Maybe for you, CWT, but the rest of us have partners to play with when the lights go out.  Perhaps you could try a dating site?

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      11:38am | 20/09/12

      I don’t know about you, Peter, but I prefer to SEE my partner when I do things like that. But perhaps you have reasons why that is not an advantage in your case…

    • DJ says:

      06:43am | 20/09/12

      It was a good move by Abbott to move him on but I am concerned that he thought he was a good choice in the first place. I disagree with a lot of things with the Libs but the overwhelming majority are decent people who just have different views to me on how things should be done.

      Cory Bernardi does not even represent a reasonable section of the Liberal Party (at least I sincerly hope not) and belongs on the fringes, not in the Opposition Leaders office. You can argue he has a right to his views and he does but the Liberal Party also has the right to punt him and get someone in who more accurately represents their position.

      Abbott needs a clean out over Christmas to move on some of the dead wood and clear the decks to get some new talent in. It seems crazy that B.Bishop and P.Ruddock (as good a servants as they have been) are sitting in safe seats that could be used for regenerating the party.

    • acotrel says:

      08:05am | 20/09/12

      You have to wonder at the mentality of religous people who attack gays, when their own churches are full of examples of child sexual abuse.  Is this some form of self-flagellation ?

    • Stephen Douglas says:

      08:46am | 20/09/12

      arotrel your deep hatred of all things Christian and of the conservatives is well known to all readers of The Punch.  But you do sometimes exaggerate.  The Christian (read Catholic) Church is not full of child abusers.  In fact these criminals are a small percentage of members of the church.  You would have an argument if you criticised the way the church has handled this abuse - which I agree is wrong on many levels.  But please do not tar every Christian with the sin of child abuse because of you own hatreds.

    • Shtaren says:

      10:26am | 20/09/12

      Stephen. Our gripe comes from the way normal pedo’s are pretty much thrown to the wolves when they are caught while when its a priest they are protected by one of the most powerful organizations in the world. Also there does seem to be an unsualy high rate of priestly pedo’s although I admit that could be the media at work.

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      11:41am | 20/09/12

      Taking a leaf out of the islamic books, Shtaren, shall Christians go on a riot for your insult of Christianity, and sweep it all under a carpet by saying that it is just a vanishingly small minority that are kiddy-fiddlers?

      Oh, why not? It is better than revering a kiddy-fiddler-in-chief…

    • acotrel says:

      03:49pm | 20/09/12

      Most of us are aware that catholic laity is appalled at the incidents of chid abuse which have occurred.  Cory Bernardi is part of that laity.  What is his story ?  Why is he being so poisonous ? I suggest he needs to look in his own back yard before pillorying those who are unfortunate enough to be born gay. It is not ‘chr istian charity’ to be like that.  One jhalf of my family are catholic, and none of them would ever go there !

    • DOB says:

      03:55pm | 20/09/12

      Andy of Sydney, perhaps my memory is playing tricks here but, as I recall, Christians have gone on rampages against people insulting Christianty pretty much on a permanant basis between about 300ad and 1648, when the religious wars of the counter-reformation petered out from sheer exhaustion and a lack of europeans to fight and kill. And it was the Christians that carried out the massacre of Jerusalem when they took it in 1099. At the time the Islamic world was a model of tolerance.

      Something has gone seriously wrong in the middle east and in many muslim countries since Christians learned to accept the SECULAR idea of a separate state and church - which is NOT a christian idea by the way. Islam needs to learn what the Christians learned - that tolerance stands above any religion. Always. Sooner or later they will. In the meantime remember that the Christian religion is literally 600 years ahead of Islam and has been no better than Islam over its history .

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      05:21pm | 20/09/12

      So, in other words, it is OK for me to rape and murder because I am younger than the oldest rapist and murderer out there, DOB?

      Thank you for proving that islamist apologists are complete loons.

    • andye says:

      06:34pm | 20/09/12

      @Andy of Sydney - “apologists”

      You know, if you don’t like people using weasel words like “homophobic”  and “racist” to derail debate against you (I am going to guess that you do?), then you should probably reconsider using stupid words like “apologist”. It is cheap and it is lazy. Especially when DOB provided a number of historical examples to back up his argument.

      I don’t think I have ever heard the world “apologist”, except from someone trying to argue that one side is all good and the other all bad.


      06:43am | 20/09/12

      Hi Daniel,

      Gay marriage the USA is getting a lot of publicity along with Mr Obama’s presidential campaign leading up to November 2012 elections for all the right reasons!  And is there any surprise really?  Probably not just looking at the number of potential votes from the homosexual groups in the USA with a huge population of 330 million compared to Australia. And gay marriage is seen very differently in Australia and not getting really the right kind of publicity understandably so! It is not newsworthy or worth taking risks about, I only presume.

      Political parties in Australia after using the asylum seeker’s debate as a hot election issue on the agenda time and time again, now all of a sudden they seem to have discovered the power of being too different!  Is it safe to say that we can look forward to “the Christians versus Muslims debate with their stark contrasts” as being used a new tool to win their votes and may be even their hearts of the unsuspecting Australian voters? 

      After all the anti Muslim messages and the violence which followed afterwards,  most unfortunately only managed to cause more unneeded and unwanted divisions in our community.  This time I was pleasantly surprised to see there is an #antihate Twitter campaign in the USA for the sole purpose of discussing hate crimes!  I have come up with some brilliant statements and they make so much more sense than all those strong feelings and expressions of hatred which can only take us in the direction of extreme forms of thinking as well as behaviour in our society.  I personally don’t know about how others feel but certainly don’t want any of that in my life.  Kind regards to your editors.

    • Gratuitous Adviser says:

      06:49am | 20/09/12

      I do think that Cory’s polygamy comment has real legs, but only if they all “love each other”.  Forget the male and multi-female stuff.  Where’s the excitement?  What about vica-versa, “if they love each other”.  What about a three blokes “who love each other” or three woman “who love each other” or two blokes and a woman “who love each other”.  The mathematics is enough to make you throw away your Playboy (for guys my age, Playboy was the mag du-jour”.

      Supporters of polygamy can use exactly the same argument/s that I heard in the Australian Senate yesterday, by the gay “marriage” advocates, providing “they love each other”.

      The word “marriage” should be for Man/Woman commitment only.  Let the gays, polygamist and Cory’s beasties find their own word, please.

      By the by:  On another matter in the Senate yesterday.  This big fishing boat, the “Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi” is going to catch Ludwig, even if it does not catch anything else.  His performance in answering the questions on why he changed his mind (considering the science, of course) was pathetic and he and the Government are obviously on thin ice with this one. 

      He should go and I will bet my Port side nut that the “Bronzed Aussie” or whatever its name is, leaves Australia with a hatch full of taxpayers’ money, courtesy of Ludwig’s incompetence.

    • It's All About Love says:

      09:24am | 20/09/12

      I agree with Gratuitous Adviser. I was actually quite surprised to see Tory Shepherd dismiss polygamy yesterday as “an entirely different concept to two people getting married.” How so? It’s all about love isn’t it? And love comes in many shapes and forms.

      In fact it was quite amusing to see Tory dismiss Bernardi’s own “slipper slope” argument out of hand, and yet raise one of her own - suggesting that allowing polygamy would “allow some conservative Islamic groups to return to some archaic system where women are chattel.”

      Insight on SBS did a program on polygamy in Australia earlier this year. Turns out it’s a bit more wide-spread than some would believe. The question is: Shouldn’t we recognise it in the law, if we are going to recognise gay marriage on the basis that “it’s natural, normal and all about love”?

    • Brutus Balan says:

      12:54pm | 20/09/12

      Agreed!  Why is this comment by the senator unacceptable when it is just a future extension of all that is perverse and unnatural as the homosexual union and sex between them? Hypocritical to say the least! 
      If two men or two women marrying is alright by their own definition of mutual love, by what right and justification can they stop homosexual/lesbian polygamy or bestiality or any other variety in the future and why will it be bizarre and unacceptable?  Lot of fools here wearing blinkers conveniently wanting to see what they want to see. Bernardi is right but pollies look for votes and want to be seen as intelligent whilst being hypocrites.

      “Senator Bernardi, speaking in an upper house debate on Tuesday night, queried the next step. Is having three people that love each other should be able to enter into a permanent union endorsed by society, or four people?” he said. “There are even some creepy people out there, who say that it’s OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals. Will that be a future step?”.”

    • Gratuitous Tosser says:

      02:57pm | 20/09/12

      Not it doesnt have legs because it would have almost no support and would never happen. Just the usual Lib tactic using lies of omission and obfuscation.

    • gobsmack says:

      06:56am | 20/09/12

      Abbott did the right thing in demoting this fool.

    • Joan says:

      08:02am | 20/09/12

      Yep. The gay debate has exposed some weird views held by other pollies as well, not only Cory`s , views that you bet do not   reflect that of their local electorate , so a conscience vote is totally inappropraite on this one. The individual weird conscience on human relations of a pollie should not be representative on his/her electorate - a political partiy`s stance at election time gives voters chance to vote on this important social iitem.

    • acotrel says:

      09:05am | 20/09/12

      Why do we elect pollies to parliament, if they aren’t to be allowed to do what they are paid for ?  Perhaps we should just elect Joan to the throne, with Pell to tell her how to take us to hell ?

    • Joan says:

      11:00am | 20/09/12

      Acotrel: pollies are paid to present the program set out at election time and not something dreamed up in weird conscience and inflicted on unsuspecting electorate. Oakeshott, Windsor , Gillard showed total disregard to electorate wishes post 2010 election. What you write about me - is weird truely weird- in your dreams mate.

    • acotrel says:

      04:34pm | 20/09/12

      What you are telling us is that pollies should just do what the faceless men tell them.  Isn’t that what the LNP are always accusing Labor of ? If you ever watch question time in parliament, you cannot help but notice the stark difference in thetoric on the two sides of the house.  LNP pollies chant from the same hymn book, Labor pollies give well considered constructive statements of opinion related to their responsibilities.

    • Joan says:

      05:45pm | 20/09/12

      Acotrel: There was no conscience vote lor Labor on Gillard Carbon Tax on everything and Gillard followed Greens on this rather than keep her word she gave to people, the same way she knifed peoples PM overnight - the people belleved that Rudd who gained the Labor vote would be there for them as PM till the next election but Gillard changed that. Then Gillard on behalf of Labor promoted marriage between man/woman stance which post election she changed to a conscience vote yet another double cross. I have heard some real doozie, statements coming from Labor pollies on human relations during this debate and they would be lucky to find one person in their electorate who shares the same view as expressed by them on every point. Faceless men lead Labor in knifing of Labor leaders . -ask Shorten, Arbib - you’ll be able to read all about it in Maxine McKew book out soon.  If pollies want total independent thought they shouldn’t join a party.

    • KimL says:

      07:01am | 20/09/12

      Creepy Cory can be as loud as he likes, the question is will anyone listen to him? Many like myself will just right him off as a nut

    • Josh Rogan says:

      07:19am | 20/09/12

      Liberals are funny. So smart on paper, but so stupid in real life.

    • Ben says:

      07:19am | 20/09/12

      >>It’s quite likely the party kept him around in such a significant position because of his relations with the extreme right.

      If that’s what Daniel defines as “the extreme right”, it’s quite obvious he’s never opened a history book.

    • JustMEinT says:

      07:47am | 20/09/12

      Sad to see Corey go, but he can make a lot of noise from the back bench as you say. Honestly we need more politicians with the backbone of CB, that is what we voted them in for…. not to simply appease the homosexuals and the Greens.

      Leave the term MARRIAGE alone, it is right for male and female. If the homosexuals want a term for themselves, let them have a COMMITTMENT or some other fuzzy name, but leave MARRIAGE alone.

    • Anonymous says:

      08:20am | 20/09/12

      Why are people like you so against homosexuals using the term “marriage”? You sound like a child not wanting to share their toys. I’ve yet to hear a convincing argument to support this stance. Humour me, I’d love to see you try.

    • Peter says:

      08:36am | 20/09/12

      Silly to believe those homosexuals are equal, right?

    • nihonin says:

      08:41am | 20/09/12

      ’ You sound like a child not wanting to share their toys.’

      So in turn, Anonymous, gays must sound like children wanting everybody else’s toys to you, then.

    • Mahhrat says:

      08:43am | 20/09/12

      Sorry, not how it works.  Marriage existed before recorded history, so you don’t get to make an argument on tradition, otherwise we have to go back to whomever invented it.

      Marriage was invented before the start of reliable recordkeeping.  The more reliable research indicates marriage was invented because men wanted a way of ensuring paternity of his children with a quality spouse, to whom he would dedicate his wealth, support and protection. 

      No modern western woman would accept such a one-sided deal, so your traditional of “marriage” is worthless too - it’s not “more right” because a bunch of men 2000 years ago appropriated it for their own religious ends.

      Homosexuality has been around before christianity.  Men and Women lived in gay relationships frequently.  Nothing has significantly changed about that ever.

      Suggesting your defintion is the only ‘right’ defintion of marriage is an absolute furphy, and you need to do better.

    • Anonymous says:

      09:25am | 20/09/12

      Funny, but wrong, Nihonin. The toys never belonged exclusively to anyone. They were hijacked and monopolised by the popular bullies. But by allowing homosexuals to marry, EVERYONE gets more toys! Heterosexuals can now many members of their own gender too if they like! More rights and toys for EVERYBODY! Isn’t that great?

    • Bob of the freezing tropics says:

      09:51am | 20/09/12

      Why are people like you so against homosexuals using the term “marriage”?

      Because we can procreate.  Just like a bull & cow, duck & drake, dog & bitch, sow & boar just the was nature intended.

      I do however, not, have a problem with civil unions just like naming ceremonies are substituted for Baptism/Christening in non believers.

    • Anonymous says:

      10:31am | 20/09/12

      LOL seriously, Bobby?
      I was never aware marriage was reserved for those with the ability to procreate. That’s definitely a new one. I thought it was about kinship, not breeding. What about infertile people? Should they not be allowed to marry? What about those who don’t want kids? There are too many people on the planet anyway. The less children people have, the better.

      If you’re flogging the dead horse of that “that’s how nature intended” fallacy, then let me remind you that homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom and some species even reproduce asexually. Plus, from your argument, one could say you’d be more open to marrying farm animals than homosexual humans. I sense some underlying resentment, mate. No need to beat around the bush.

    • Shtaren says:

      10:33am | 20/09/12

      Bob. So you think that noone should not be allowed to be married untill you have kids. Interesting view..

    • LeonT says:

      10:43am | 20/09/12

      Except the same people lobbying against same sex marriage also lobbied against the QLD civil union bill because there was a state sanctioned ceremony it was too marriage-like.

      So apparently it’s not just the name they want to hold on to. Nice try though.

    • Jokular says:

      10:53am | 20/09/12

      ‘But by allowing homosexuals to marry, EVERYONE gets more toys’.

      But how Anonymous, like toys, homosexuals can’t reproduce as nature intended.

    • Bob of the freezing tropics says:

      11:24am | 20/09/12

      Facts stand:  We can, they can’t , if you want to do it asexually go for it.

    • Anonymous says:

      11:50am | 20/09/12

      Not sure if your username is the work of a subtle troll, but assuming you’re serious, read my comments above more carefully. I was never aware that marriage was reserved for procreators, especially considering it was never originally a religious practice. As “nature” dictates, some people are unfortunate enough to be born without working reproductive organs. Heterosexuals too. Going by your argument, they shouldn’t be allowed to marry… unless you’re a hypocrite?

      COME ON, GUYS! Give me some good arguments here!

    • Jokular says:

      12:27pm | 20/09/12

      Anonymous, why frustrate yourself over such a minority issue, they want to have a piece of paper with the words married written on it, because other couples do.  Geez does that mean I should have Mangoes banned because I can’t eat them (allergic to them and I am in a minority) but other people can.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      12:30pm | 20/09/12

      You can have the term MARRIAGE for a religious union between man and woman as long as I can use the term BREEDERS to distinguish between those who have offspring and those who don’t. Sounds fair.

    • Admiral Ackbar says:

      02:21pm | 20/09/12

      “Why are people like you so against homosexuals using the term “marriage”?”

      Why do gay people want to use the term ‘marriage’ so desperately? Don’t say equality, it’s not valid.

      This is the biggest non-issue to ever waste time in parliament.

    • Anonymous says:

      03:04pm | 20/09/12

      You moron, Jokular. It’s not about the frikken piece of paper. Your theoretical mango analogy makes no sense either. Homosexuals aren’t seeking to have marriage banned at all.

      The fact that it’s a minority issue is beside the point. Despite the fact that legalising SSM will have no negative impact on society, homosexuals are still having their relationships officially declared less valid than others. In the 21st century, that’s messed up and embarrassing. I will agree with you on one thing though. This IS a waste of time. This shouldn’t even be a hot topic and it should’ve been approved years ago. Don’t like it? Tough shit! Stay out of everyone’s business! The rest of the developed world is running with the times. It’s about time Australia did the same.

    • Bobof the freezing tropics says:

      03:13pm | 20/09/12

      Love your work Shane From Melbourne.

      Anonymous: Nah not a troll just been bloody cold in Darwin this dry season, by the way go stay in a motel and have a read of the free copy of the Gidions in the drawer. You may learn somthing

    • Jokular says:

      03:28pm | 20/09/12

      Anonymous ‘This shouldn’t even be a hot topic and it should’ve been approved years ago. Don’t like it? Tough shit! Stay out of everyone’s business!’

      Read it right here people, Anonymous pretty much states if you disagree or your opinions doesn’t toe the line with Anonymous, you should have no right to speak out, that’s the only way Anonymous seems to be able to ‘win’ an debate.  This my friend is why people fight back against you and your ilk.

    • Anonymous says:

      03:43pm | 20/09/12

      You’re asking me to read the bible? Sorry, I don’t read magic books, hate material or fantasy tales meant for children. That rubbish ticks all three of those boxes.

    • Anonymous says:

      05:11pm | 20/09/12

      Until people opposed to SSM are able to provide a convincing and solid argument against it, they have no right to hamper progress.

      Religious stances don’t count as we’re a secular society who shouldn’t rely on fairytales to govern us. No facts have been presented that suggest same sex couples are inept at raising children. The slippery slope arguments are fallacies and the argument that it’s against nature is flawed, hypocritical and quite simply stupid. If the idea of two dudes getting married irks you, harden up, princess.

      Me and my ilk? Not sure what you’re implying here, but don’t twist my words. Nobody said you don’t have a right to speak out, but I have every right to tear your argument to shreds.

    • Bob of the freezing tropics says:

      07:15pm | 20/09/12

      I work in health, and have been present when many dear souls have departed this realm and I can assure you the vast majority yes, even non believers tend to ask for forgivness very shortly before they depart, whether they are covering all bases just in case, or there is something there I can not say, do some reasearch you may learn something - in the mean time may your god go with you.

    • Dave-o says:

      07:51am | 20/09/12

      “Earth achievement hour”?

      Now he has many hours to consider the considerable achievement made to intelligent debate and society made by people who rejected the illogical fear mongering he tries to impart on the rest of us.

    • Tubesteak says:

      07:55am | 20/09/12

      The LNP have let the ratbags hang around for a long time. Bill Heffernan anyone…???

      It’s like the South Park episode with the Bill of Rights “you can have your cake and eat it, too. You can appear to be for peace but also promote war”. The LNP can appear to dislike these people but keep endorsing them every election and keep them on the books because they secretly like their policies and ideas and know there’s enough rednecks out there that go for them. The only time they’ve recently shown some backbone and principles is when they booted Pauline Hanson in the mid-90s.

    • Borderer says:

      08:55am | 20/09/12

      Both parties actually, I don’t think they can just strip him of his senate seat mid term, he can resign Arbib style because I don’t think anyone has as much dirt on him as the ALP did on Mark.
      Do I agree with him, no, I’m pro gay marriage. Do I think what he said was inappropriate, yes. Do I think the left misrepresented what he said so that his question of how far marriage rights go became being gay is the same as beastiality, yes. Is that any excuse, no. You deserve to be sacked for being stupid. Do I think that the ALP is trying to broaden his opinion into that of the LNP as a whole, of course. They need to do absolutely anything to take the scrutiny off themselves. Is the fact that he spoke out (not the content of what he said) a good thing, yes. Having divergent opinions is good, you avoid the groupthink we are currently enjoying, it’s problems are evident in the laundry list of failure.

    • iansand says:

      08:35am | 20/09/12

      What’s wrong with polygamy?  IIRC King David and King Solomon were polygamists.  If the Bible is the inerrant word of God a nutter Christian*  should be supporting polygamy.

      *Not all Christians are nutters, but some are.

    • Dann.C says:

      08:37am | 20/09/12

      Cory Bernadi would make one excellent PM and Scotty Morrison as his deputy,they would positively Advance this country- of course the ones who cannot see the BIG picture would not agree with me and would say nobrainer things about my opinion, I expect that as they are the reason that is why the country has muslim riots as if this is Lebanon, Cory has been on the ball on Muslims and the other day you saw just the tip of the iceburg with them,Cory iand I have never been wrong but maybe Mistaken a few times as I know i have never ever been wrong maybe mistaken at times and this is not one of them supporting Cory.

    • Anonymous says:

      09:31am | 20/09/12

      I’m seriously not sure if you’re trolling, but I’ll bite.
      Cory has a mindset nestled in the dark ages. He’s shown that he’s a puerile and stupid hate-monger who’s detached from reality in a way that’s appalling to any sane person. Christian fundamentalists of such an extreme level have no right to even run for politics, let alone be PM.

    • Chopper knows says:

      08:39am | 20/09/12

      To all the detractors, Corey is probably having a glass of wine right now with a wry smile on his face because what he said has been listened to by open ears. The Gay marriage bill was thrown out of parliament yesterday. He has won and that is that.

    • Alex says:

      08:56am | 20/09/12

      I seem to recall that noted Greenist member Peter Singer stated on Q & A that bestiality should not be condemned.  Singer also stated that sex between siblings was okay as long as it was consensual.  There were no howls from the audience.  Should Singer resign from the Greenist Party?

    • nihonin says:

      09:14am | 20/09/12

      No Alex he shouldn’t resign form the Greens, he’s just being progressive.

    • TChong says:

      09:38am | 20/09/12

      What is this “Greenist Party “you speak of ?
      And you know Singer is a memeber of this party?
      Does he ( Singer) hold office within this “Greenist Party”?
      BTW - You do realise that Bernardi wasnt forced to resign from the Liberals?
      You also know that Bernardi was an office holder ( parlimentary secretatary) , and according to Abbott - he Bernardi chose to resign?
      So, Singer been a member ( or not ) to a non existant party you invented, is completely irrevalant to the real world.

    • Alex says:

      11:45am | 20/09/12

      TChong, I call the Greens the Greenists as they are a varient of the communist and socialist parties.  Singer is on record in the media as a Greenie.

    • VJR says:

      08:58am | 20/09/12

      Every party has their nut cases. Just don’t listen to them.

    • Anna C says:

      09:00am | 20/09/12

      Sorry but apart from the bestiality stuff what Cory is saying is sounder saner and saner by the day especially when it comes to Islam.  Why exactly are we funding schools in Indonesia?  I hope that these schools are secular ones and not ones aimed at indoctrinating young minds into Islam especially given the overreaction of Muslims to that silly film? 

      Why is the government taking so much time to grant a visa to Mr. Wilders?  The guy is an elected representative of the Dutch parliament.  Why does the government allow radical Muslims into this country who advocate violence but is denying Mr. Wilders a visa? 

      This government should pandering to left wing and Muslim pressure groups with their PC bullshit and start governing in the interests of mainstream Australia.

    • iansand says:

      09:48am | 20/09/12

      Many of the radical Islamists come out of the madrassa school system, where they are indoctrinated. seems to me that heading the madrassas off at the pass is pretty smart tactics.  It is a pity that it was not done 30 years ago when Saudi money started pouring in to the madrassas.

    • bael says:

      10:33am | 20/09/12

      @Anna C,
      The funding to indonesian schools is so we have some control over the content and the way australia is viewed by the locals there.
      Helping muslim children get a moderate education and a head start in life is actually one of the most cost effective and intelligent foreign policies we have had.
      The reason we cannot fund a whole bunch of secular schools is because many parents would not send there children, we need to take the middle road, the practical path of building a generational relationship with our neighbours.

    • fitter says:

      12:05pm | 20/09/12

      We actually fund the schools, so the young arent indoctrinated at a young age. Perhaps have a read on the topic before you post something ignorant. Wilders has been refused a visa because he’s an extremist, apparently, word has it, extremists can sometimes be white christian looking people too….

    • Paul says:

      12:45pm | 20/09/12

      That would be great if the funding was used for schools. All I see when travelling through Sumatra are shiny new mini mosques in little villages. I have to wonder who is funding that. How much oversight is performed in this Australian “School” funding.

    • Fred says:

      09:01am | 20/09/12

      I dont remember Geert Wilders being brought into the country by anyone. I do recall however, an islamic fundamentalist being brought in by the muslim community and chris bowen who approved his visa. Maybe Bernadi has a point. He is also crusading against the stealth halal certification that is happening for a huge swathe of food items that everyday australians eat. Even hot cross buns enjoyed by christians at easter are certified halal.

    • Luke says:

      09:48am | 20/09/12

      The Q Society makes interesting reading. Check it out.

    • Luke says:

      09:50am | 20/09/12 makes even more interesting reading.

    • Mongo says:

      09:58am | 20/09/12

      Good point about the halal. We need to be vigilant for guerilla campaigns to corrupt our foods with this sort of certification. I have also noticed many foodstuffs now have certifications that state whether they contain certain allergens. White Australians have a right to eat whatever they like without having the special dietary needs of a minority group SHOVED IN THEIR FACE, and I FOR ONE WILL NOT STAND FOR IT!

    • Fred says:

      10:20am | 20/09/12

      Not only white australians Mongo, my extended family is made up of anglo’s, italians, greeks, Chinese, russian…we all share the same opinion…this is the muslim Trojan Horse that is being wheeled into this country.

    • Mongo says:

      11:01am | 20/09/12

      Yes, tell me how many black friends you have and then try to frame a shifting demographic trend as a sneak attack. It doesn’t matter how multicultural you try and sound in the build up, your message is still that of bigotry and intolerance.

      In fact the arabs have a great proverb about this that goes along the lines of “It’s my brother and I against our cousin, but it’s my cousin and I against a stranger”.

    • James1 says:

      11:04am | 20/09/12

      If you don’t believe in the Muslim god, then Halal certification is irrelevant, surely?  Eating Halal food does not make you a Muslim by stealth, it just allows food producers to access a wider market, thus increasing their profits.  Only socialists are opposed to profits.

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      11:28am | 20/09/12

      Incorrect James. It does affect me. The “halal” certification does not come free. It costs money. In order to offset that cost, the manufacturers increase the price of the goods. When it is a staple like meat, it immediately raises the cost of living for ALL of Australia.

      On a more ethical note, this “halal” thing gives me no choice. It impinges on my freedom to choose whether I want to pay some islamic group for that “halal” chop, which as you rightly point out, I do not give a damn about anyway. It is like forcing you to buy a Cherry Ripe every time you buy $10 worth of fuel at the petrol station.

      There is nothing stopping food manufacturers to have two lines of products: a halal one and a cheaper line that is non-halal. They do not do it because selling things for cheaper is not in their philosophy.

    • Len says:

      11:39am | 20/09/12

      Is there similar ‘Kosher Certification” for as many foods that have halal certification. If not, then i would agree, islamisation by stealth. This doesnt make Fred a bigot.

    • marley says:

      11:42am | 20/09/12

      Oh god, not the halal thing again?  It’s marketing, guys.  If something is labelled halal, it means it can appeal to an extra 300,000 or so potential customers.  And as far as I’m concerned, anyone who eats vegemite, Muslim or no, has met the sternest standard there is of being a true Australian.

    • iansand says:

      12:08pm | 20/09/12

      Len - Visit Woolworths in Bondi Junction or Double Bay.  You will find a substantial kosher section in both.

    • James1 says:

      12:45pm | 20/09/12

      There is nothing stopping you from seeking out non-halal products, Andy. It only increases prices for consumers who choose to buy the more expensive halal products. This is an issue that, to my mind, it is illogical to complain about. If you don’t want to buy halal because of price, exercise your ability to choose and buy from a different company with cheaper prices. In terms of staples like meat, there are plenty of choices available, halal, kosher or otherwise.

    • Jokular says:

      01:35pm | 20/09/12

      iansand says:

        12:08pm | 20/09/12

        Len - Visit Woolworths in Bondi Junction or Double Bay.  You will find a substantial kosher section in both.

      Indeed iansand, you probably would find a ‘kosher section’ in a few supermarkets, that’s the point they’re in a section, not in amongst the other products on all the other shelves throughout the shop.

    • Markus says:

      01:52pm | 20/09/12

      @marley, if it is just marketing, then what is the reasoning behind a company making its entire line of produce Halal certified but not actually labelling it as such?

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      02:23pm | 20/09/12

      James1, perhaps you can point me to a place that sells non-halal chicken? You can’t because…? That’s right.

      Hence, my comment on “no choice”.

    • Admiral Ackbar says:

      02:30pm | 20/09/12

      I prefer my meat to come from an animal that was as brutally killed as possible. Someone should market that and label it as such for my specific tastes.

    • marley says:

      02:33pm | 20/09/12

      @Markus - not sure which company you’re referring to but there are websites listing halal foods and I’m betting they’re consulted by potential buyers (and stockers) of halal products.  So it’s still marketing.

    • marley says:

      02:38pm | 20/09/12

      @Andy of Sydney - well first, I don’t care whether chicken is halal or not, because the slaughtering process is the same for both.  Second, I buy non-certified chicken all the time - from my butcher and from the local supermarkets.

    • James1 says:

      02:59pm | 20/09/12

      If you live in Canberra, I can point you to a large number of places.  For instance, the Woolworths and the boutique butcher at the Dickson shopping centre, or the Superbarn in Civic (while the latter does stock Halal chicken, it also stock non-Halal chicken at around $2 a kilo less). 

      Hence your comment on having no choice is factually incorrect.

    • iansand says:

      03:24pm | 20/09/12

      Do you think you could tell the difference between halal and non-halal meat?

    • Kika says:

      03:36pm | 20/09/12

      Len - Yes. There is Kosher certification.

      Blimey people. It’s just a small logo on the bottom of whatever it is confirming it doesn’t contain gelatine. It’s not going to make you a Muslim.

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      03:44pm | 20/09/12

      I don’t, James. Give me a few in the Western Sydney area, please.

    • Jokular says:

      03:53pm | 20/09/12

      iansand says:

        03:24pm | 20/09/12

        Do you think you could tell the difference between halal and non-halal meat?

      The halal meat would go off quicker?  wink

    • James1 says:

      04:17pm | 20/09/12

      As I don’t live there, I am not familiar with the local shopping.  I know a few places in Hornsby, if you are willing to do an hour or more on the train.  There is an awesome gourmet butcher in the Westfield.  Also, I am certain I bought some non-Halal chicken at a place in Surry Hills, but I had been drinking with a friend that afternoon so I can’t recall the details.  There are also a few places online where you can buy all sorts of cheap meat that is not Halal certified.  We use one to buy local lamb directly from a farm, but they don’t usually deliver to Sydney.  If you are really struggling to find non-Halal chicken locally, I suggest you have a look on the internet before travelling outside the wild west.

      Other than that, you will have to do the research yourself, I’m sorry.  Hopefully the info I provide will assist you in finding something.

    • The Future says:

      09:10am | 20/09/12

      In 10 years time the fact that we are having the gay marriage debate now will be seen as the biggest distraction going.

      The worlds financial system is on the point of collapse, a global food crisis is looming and many,many other things are a foot.

      We don’t need the distraction of a gay marriage debate now because it is a consensus destroyer, not just on gay marriage but also an anything else hat is being debated.

      Stop the gay marriage debate, it doesn’t need to be debated.

    • Fred says:

      10:08am | 20/09/12

      I would call it a mass debate.

    • David Kay says:

      09:10am | 20/09/12

      People once opposed marriage between Christians and Jews. Then they opposed marriage between blacks and whites. Now they oppose gay marriage. It’s always the same kind of nasty, shrivelled little people.

    • Tanya says:

      10:24am | 20/09/12

      Absolutely true. Who is actually hurt if Gay couples can marry and in what way? How is their life impacted? People who oppose it are fundamentally supporters of discrimination and inequality. They scare me.

    • colin says:

      10:38am | 20/09/12

      @David Kay 09:10am | 20/09/12


      These snivelling, selfish little misanthropes always find it sooo much easier to just say, “No”.

      As Tanya@10:24am said, “Who is actually hurt if Gay couples can marry ...”?

      Any wonder so many referendums fail so miserably in this country…

    • Admiral Ackbar says:

      02:35pm | 20/09/12

      Because nasty, irrelevant name calling has always been a sound argument for gay marriage. From where I’m standing, the largest bigots in this whole debate are on the pro gay marriage side.

      Who is actually hurt if gay couples can’t marry and in what way? How is their life impacted?

      ” People who oppose it are fundamentally supporters of discrimination and inequality.” This is just untrue. Narrow mindedness and people who make rash decisions based on emotion scare me.

    • colin says:

      04:04pm | 20/09/12

      @Admiral Ackbar 02:35pm | 20/09/12

      “Narrow mindedness and people who make rash decisions based on emotion scare me…”

      Er…you mean like those who - in a bigoted, knee-jerk reaction - dismiss gay marriage out of hand..?

      Way to hoist yourself on your own petard there, Admiral.

    • Terry says:

      09:10am | 20/09/12

      “Meanwhile, only 2.2 per cent of the population are Islamic. I don’t see any reason for Bernardi to panic”  At what percentage do you think he should start to panic, 10%, 25%, 50%?  How about if 50% of a given area are islamic, are you justified to ‘panic’ then?

    • RickyB says:

      03:04pm | 20/09/12

      And yet Terry, that little 2.2% causes a hell of a lot of problems in this country. Thats why many Australians can relate to Cory Bernadis concerns.

    • Dan Webster says:

      09:22am | 20/09/12

      It would be easy to dodge a punch from “ThePunch”. They always come from the left !.
      (Boom Tish)

      Australia is not ready for Gay Marriage. The majority won. Next.

    • P. Darvio says:

      10:35am | 20/09/12

      There will never ever be a GST Gay Marriage Carbon Tax under the Government I lead…....

    • Pastor Sauce says:

      11:28am | 20/09/12

      Amen to that P. Darvio, let the curtains be drawn and the sun shine in on accountability.  Say it with me ‘Hallelujah’, brothers and sisters and again ‘Hallelujah’.

    • Dan Webster says:

      12:07pm | 20/09/12

      @ P.Darvio - Having to GSTs would be confusing.
      Lesson about the CT, never trust an Atheist.
      (I’m trolling Atheists, what I really mean is never trust a politician)

    • Janosz says:

      09:26am | 20/09/12

      Bernardi is an out and out nutcase.  Sure, he’ll go to the back bench and then ,hey presto, in a few months or a year he’ll be brought back with his thick as a brick ideas.  I suspect he’s only saying what nutters like Abbott are thinking anyway.  Abbott is stupid but not quite that stupid.  Gay rights for dogs!

    • Lil Paulie says:

      09:34am | 20/09/12

      Bernardi’s views more accurately reflect a larger part of the electorate than the views of the media class.

      He’ll be back simply because ordinary Australians feel betrayed by the elites.

    • Turnbull 2014 says:

      09:45am | 20/09/12

      Sounds like the infiltration into bastions of mainstream politics by right-wing Pentecostal Christian Fundamentalists is all but complete. This nutbag needs to go preach his rubbish at Hillsong, not within the halls of federal parliament. This is also reflective towards a sickening trend in the wider community of these evil penteCULTists spreading their tentacles through our society and media, and trying to project their values onto others.

      Maybe he can get together with Family First, the DLP and the CDP and they can all get gay married to each other.

    • KFR says:

      09:55am | 20/09/12

      Funny thing is, CB expressed hs views in parliament, a place he was elected to, to do just that. Much of what he said makes sense, and whilst many disagree with his views, he did not call for the beheading of gays or call for a jihad against gay activists and such like. Yet he is being held in the same light as the dicks who ran riot in sydney last weekend. Two very different siutaions and to make it worse i guess the 92-41 gay marriage vote rubs salt into the wound. What amazes me is the absolute lack of critical comment of labor’s own pollies saying NO yet labor was so critical of tony abbot being at least honest and consistently saying no. Labor’s double standards on this matter is really disgusting. Where are the david marrs now??????

    • Tanya says:

      11:57am | 20/09/12

      He’s being held in the same light as any ignorant, offensive bigot. There’s just no room for it in the current political climate, let alone in parliament.

    • Hanzel says:

      10:01am | 20/09/12

      What I get from all this is that if you still believe in Australia, it’s incumbent upon you to help Cory be elected PM whenever he decides to run.

    • Mongo says:

      10:29am | 20/09/12

      You left out the word “White” before the word “Australia”.

    • Hanzel says:

      11:18am | 20/09/12

      @ Mongo, on a related issue, have you guys managed to ban Anzac Day and Australia Day yet?

    • P. Darvio says:

      12:24pm | 20/09/12

      NO NO NO - Lets have George Pell as Australian Leader, dissolve our democratic secular democracy and let Christians rule under a Christian Theocratic State like they do in the most theocratic religious State on Earth which many many Christians look up to as a shinning light of Christianity - the Christian Vatican State. Cory can be their PR media Man.

    • colin says:

      10:10am | 20/09/12

      But Cory is RIGHT!!

      My cousin Bob - a Catholic - married a girl who was a Protestant. Now they have a boy who is in love with a sheep!

      See? Mixed marriages DO cause bestiality!!

    • vox says:

      10:21am | 20/09/12

      Of all of the people in the Parliament who knew Bernardi, Abbott must, by their close association and by Abbott’s necessary deep knowledge of his closest confidant’s character have known him best. The man is his bloody Parliamentary Secretary for goodness sake!
      And Bernardi “offered” his resignation? Crap! Abbott said to him, “I told you to keep those views quiet and you stuffed up. I’m sorry’ cos you’re my mate, but you’ve got to go. Go!”, or something similar.
      TimB mentioned yesterday, in a rambling reply to something I said that ‘preferred P.M. polls’, like the one that had Abbott at about the same level as Con the Fruiterer, don’t mean anything because we, the electorate, don’t elect the P.M. Well my eight-year-old niece knows that to be true, but Tim’s brilliant revelation seems to suggest that he is at variance with his ragtag band of fellow Abbotteers, and with himself, when the cry of “Gillard stabbed “our” elected P.M. in the back”, goes up.
      Didn’t he say that? Well he certainly didn’t correct those who did, did he.
      Perhaps he will dig into his extensive “files”, (“I’m the only CIA agent in the village!”), that he keeps on all and sundry, except Abbott of course, and discover that he has been using the same repetitive garbage, (he calls it “recycling”), and discover that he is actually the most unoriginal Abbott-clone on record.
      Closing note. Who is the least favored Opposition Leader for the post of future Prime Minister in Australia’s history? You guessed it folks!

    • Andrew says:

      11:39am | 20/09/12

      This is why the current two party system in Australia is so ridiculously flawed.  We have a choice between the financially (more) responsible coalition who have their social policies ripped straight from the middle ages, and the socially somewhat more progressive labor party who couldn’t manage the local corner store without going into $2.3 billion of debt.  Why can’t we have a party that espouses good financial management, as well as being socially liberal?  And sure, for the utter bogans out there we can have the 4th party as well, one that is incompetent financailly AND will still appeal to their racist, mysoginistic, xenophobic, far-right paranoia.

      As it is, we have a wonderful choice between financially retarded and socially slightly competent, or financially slightly competent and socially retarded.  Probably why I find all of the rabit supporters of either party on here totally ridiculous - your blind support for one party on every single issue in defiance of all evidence indicates an appalling lack of intellect.  Time to realise that both of our options are fatally flawed in one way or another, and start looking for a better alternative (no Greens, you don’t count).

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      12:26pm | 20/09/12

      It had never occurred to you that the two might be linked and that they might be mutually exclusive, Andrew?

      The welfare state, for example, costs a bomb. Green initiatives costs even more for little, if any, gain. These are two pillars of social “progressiveness”. And here is a third: putting up laws for everything means you need more resources to police all of them. That has financial implications.

      You can have “progressiveness” or you can have good fiscal responsibility. It is impossible to have both, at least as far as “progressiveness” is defined at the moment.

    • Paul says:

      12:55pm | 20/09/12

      The ALP could be that party if they cut their ties to the Unions and put in real candidates instead of these ex union clowns.

    • Jennifer says:

      11:39am | 20/09/12

      You know, the polygamy and bestiality comment sounded familiar.

      Rick Santorum made his name saying much the same thing.  Google the name “Santorum” and you’ll see how famous he got with his comments.  Cory is dead lucky to avoid such a fate.

    • ausspud says:

      12:16pm | 20/09/12

      Bless that Cory Bernardi,I happen to agree with him on a lot of issues like Multiculturalism,but that’s beside the point,At least he speak’s his mind unlike the robot’s in the ALP.

    • Saints 98 Demons 42 says:

      01:40pm | 20/09/12

      Cory Bernardi will be the Federal Coalition Leader after ALP wins the next federal election

    • Fed Up says:

      01:42pm | 20/09/12

      You have to wonder at the mentality of gay people and their straight drones who attack those with different views by calling them homophobes,which of course is just a form of bigoted hate speech.

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      02:28pm | 20/09/12

      Agreed, Fed Up.

      I used to support homosexual equality back in the days when homosexuals were genuinely discriminated against legislatively. Nowadays, however, I have to think twice every time the homosexual equality lobby rears its head. The smell coming from that lobby is… unusual and suspicious, to say the least…

    • Admiral Ackbar says:

      02:40pm | 20/09/12

      Much like the ‘it can’t be racist if it’s about whitey’, you’re not a bigot if you’re a pro gay marriage supporter resorting to name calling of those who disagree with you.

    • Anonymous says:

      03:09pm | 20/09/12

      I shall repeat a rather apt quote I saw recently. “I hate the word homophobia. It’s not a phobia. You are not scared. You are an asshole.”

    • Disgusted says:

      03:42pm | 20/09/12

      Isn’t it interesting that T Abbott’s only action on the comments of the Senator was a slap on the wrist. He did not in any way state that the comments were beyond the pale. He just saw it as a “disciplinary problem”.

    • BruceS says:

      03:49pm | 20/09/12

      Poor Cory, he thought he was a Senator in the democratic government of the Nation State of Australia. The UNHCR has had a strange effect on elected MPs speaking the truth, as they see it. Sadly he forgot to mention the push to have the age of consent lowered, in relation to the crime of paedophilia.

    • Peter says:

      06:33pm | 20/09/12

      Thank God that there are politicians like Cory Bernadi who have the GUTS to speak the Truth and to sound a clear alarm in relation to the agenda of the Marriage Equality advocates.  He, like many thinking Australians, is discerning enough to know that same-sex marriage between two people of the same gender will not be enough for the militant left - that other demands will be in time forthcoming to accommodate relationships, which at present are to most, unthinkable.

      My estimation of Tony Abbott personally has tumbled with his rolling of Senator Bernadi from the Opposition front bench. I hope Senator Bernadi continues to be vocal on this issue, as well as other topical issues, such as the dangers of Multiculturalism.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      07:13pm | 20/09/12

      Bernardi is up for re-election as an South Australian Senator at the next Federal Election - less than 12 months away
      He can make as much noise as he like between now & then - No-one will pay him the slightest bit of attention.
      We are a family of some 70 voters in SA -, all with a wide circle of friends and, coincidently, the vast majority of our family are life-long Liberal or National Party Voters.
      However, given Bernardi’s absurd opinions we have already decided that we will be “Putting Bernardi Last” on the Senate Ballot Paper.
      He is not fit to be in the Senate.
      He is ill-informed & ignorant.
      His claim that down the road people will demand the right to marry animals is patently absurd. He waffled on - as most publicans are won’t to do - some nonsense about “Consenting Couples”
      How ridiculous is that?
      Since when can an animal - other than a human one - give it’s consent to anything? To do so they have to be able to either Speak or Write!
      They can’t & for this man to even suggest or intimate that they can just shows how bloody ignorant he is.
      The Coalition Parties seem to be intent on digging their own Electoral Grave.
      Pull the fists out of your fundamental orificies, ladies & gentlemen, & start acting like you even deserve to be an alternative to the ALP.
      Get your act together & if Abbott is unable - as it is becoming ever-more apparent that he isn’t - to pull you all into line. Start giving us some decent Policies then it is time he was chucked out & replaced with the one person - yes this will really stick in Abbott’s throat - who has widespread Public Support from both the Coalition side, but even more importantly, from the ALP & Greens side of politics as well - Malcolm Turnbull.
      Abbott should not think for one second that just because we are normally Coalition Supporters that we will automatically actually vote for him & the rag-tag bunch he allegedly leads.

    • AnthonyG says:

      09:03pm | 20/09/12

      its a shame because Corey would have made a great PM if the Libs decide to move Tony aside


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