The trouble with schadenfreude – apart from that fact that it is a hard word to spell, and using it pegs you as a bit of a showpony - is that it has a nasty habit of coming back to bite you on the bum.

A fully-clothed Ricky Nixon. Photo: Dave Crosling

It’s actually a pretty nifty term, a German word for which there is no English equivalent, meaning to take pleasure in the misfortune of others.

The AFL is currently suffering the unpleasant after-effects of years of gleeful schadenfreude, particularly towards those once-unmatchable boofheads within the National Rugby League.

In his first year as Prime Minister, a jammy John Howard won the Parliamentary Press Gallery AFL tipping competition. As a fan of the NRL club the St George Dragons, and so vehemently opposed to being a fair-weather fan that he even refused to support the Sydney Swans on their 1996 Grand Final debut, Howard’s victory was proof that the less you know about a code, the better you can go in the tipping comp.

In accordance with competition rules the PM was compelled to put some beers on at the non-members bar and, of course, all the journos turned up. He gave a nice off-the-cuff speech where he noted that the AFL was the most national of the codes, in that it transcended class and ethnicity, having none of the race-based heritage of soccer, none of the working man machismo of rugby league, or the tally-ho-chaps toffiness of rugby union.

His assessment still stands as an accurate one today. But it’s an assessment which, in the hands of the AFL’s most ardent supporters, has become an unpleasant one, possibly even a dangerous one, as it has let people within the game ignore or suppress evidence of rotten behaviour, convinced they are of the code’s peerless brilliance.

Over recent years as the code has grown bigger and more valuable there’s been a commonplace view among AFL fans, and many people who run the game, that it’s somehow morally superior to its rivals, none more so than its biggest rival, rugby league.

Whenever a league player has made a goose of himself, broken the law, done something improper involving a woman, or in Joel Monaghan’s case, worse, the more rusted-on AFL tragics roll their eyes as if to say, there go those league boys again. There’s been a real elitism to it. You often hear that league is a sport for plebs and derros, or for housos, to use that evocative if appalling Sydney slang term for people from public housing.

As the league-loving journalist Luke McIlveen wrote this week, it’s starting to look like the AFL should turn to the NRL for some moral guidance.

The AFL’s problems haven’t let up since the week after last season’s Grand Final replay, starting with sexual assault allegations (later dropped) against two premiership Collingwood players, continuing into this year with the unravelling of St Kilda over an utterly bizarre nude photo scandal, and reaching a new high (or low) this week with Ricky Nixon’s admission of “inappropriate conduct” with the 17-year-old girl at the centre of the Saints’ photo scandal, amid hotly contested claims of drug use and sex.
Nixon, who has represented some of AFL’s biggest (and most troubled) stars is 30 years this girl’s senior and appears to have acted with a lesser degree of maturity.

The thing which has interested me is the readiness of so many within the game to nail their colours to Ricky Nixon’s mast, at a time when you’d think some circumspection as the allegations are sifted might be the best course of action.

He’s had texts from players pledging their support, which have been made public. In the eyes of many fans, he’s been held up as nothing more than the victim of this conniving and clever young girl who will stop at nothing to extract her revenge.

He’s been held up as the victim of tall poppy syndrome, the victim of a media beat-up, the victim of prejudgments from the likes of veteran AFL journalist Mike Sheehan.

The AFL has ducked the mother of all hospital kicks by letting the Players Association determine whether his conduct should see him removed from the game, providing him with a huge favour in the form of silence.

The Players Association are such a pack of blouses that even they have squibbed responsibility for adjudicating on the fate of a man who’s been photographed in his jocks with a teenager, opting instead to refer the matter to independent assessment.

It’s been a powerful demonstration of the old mates act at play. It reflects the very strong conviction in Melbourne that anyone who dares expose or criticise bad conduct within the AFL has a broader agenda against the game. Nick Riewoldt, who’s spent much of this year perfecting his angry face, explicitly put this view when he said there were people who were out to destroy the St Kilda football club. Riewoldt was right, it’s just that he plays and works with some of them. It’s the lack of personal accountability for bad behaviour which is damaging the game, rather than any external criticism by intelligent observers who know bad behaviour when they see it.

A couple of weeks ago Peter Costello wrote a column which was long on generalisations where he questioned the wisdom of parents leaving their kids in player-run coaching clinics. At the time he looked like a bit of a snob for saying such a thing. With the passage of time, Costello is probably feeling a little ahead of the curve on this and has dusted off his trademark smirk.

Costello went too far with his criticisms, in that he inadvertently besmirched the name of good men within the game who are genuine leaders for the community. But you can see where his words come from – a justified sense of frustration at a code that has acted for too long as if it doesn’t have a trouble in the world.

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    • BK says:

      07:24am | 27/02/11

      The way that the AFL has handled this has made them look bad. Initially, she picked up a few players, who used her a few times and discarded. I know that it hurts at the time, but having one’s heart broken is a typical part of growing up. It must have happened to a million Australian people this year. When they sent this girl off for counselling and arranged accomodation for her. It made it look as though something terrible had really happened to her.

      If they had pursued her more vigorously over the theft of the photos, the attempted blackmail over said photos the posting of them on facebook, she would look more like the criminal that she really is. The AFL and NRL needs to stop protecting women who set out to hurt them.

    • CD says:

      09:01am | 27/02/11

      @BK…..Ricky Nixon is that you commenting from Ireland?

    • Carlos says:

      09:12am | 27/02/11

      @ BK

      You’ve got to be joking- she’s seventeen and he was over forty! The girl in the Riewolt saga was young too. What on earth are adult footballers doing going anywhere near young girls? There are plenty of good players doing the right thing out there, and they are to be commended. But the players involved with underage people, involved in brawls and bad behaviour… sorry, no excuse there. The AFL should have dealt with this harshly a long time ago.

    • BK says:

      11:30am | 27/02/11

      Look closely any you will see the word “player”. Ricky Nixon hasn’t been a player for years. Therefore, I wasn’t talking about him.

    • Dig a little deeper says:

      01:53pm | 27/02/11

      Agreed. The AFL became nothing more than “enablers”.  If every teenage girl dumped by her boyfriend, famous or not, went after their ex with all guns blazing then what of society would we have? Especially considering the girl attacked by using photographs of guys that had had nothing to do with her!!

    • Dan the Man says:

      02:06am | 28/02/11

      @ CD HAHAHA gold!
      @ Carlos “What on earth are adult footballers doing going anywhere near young girls?” I suppose they were doing what footy players do best off the field…?
      @Dig a Little Deeper and BK, are we missing the whole point here, that Ricky Nixon was caught, on camera, with a 17 year old girl at the centre of an AFL sex scandal, in his underwear, in her hotel room, with drugs….do I really need to go on?

      The way you are all whitewashing the inappropriateness of this situation is mind boggling. No doubt the girl is conniving and something of a manipulator but lets look at the chain of responsibility here, putting aside the ‘Foo-ee’ factor you all love so much, and get real. Love her or hate her, she has exposed some pretty glaring holes in AFL culture.

      The evidence is overwhelming and there should be no question or argument that Ricky Nixon is sacked and potentially prosecuted, and a full investigation of the AFL’s dealings with these sorts of complaints is launched.

    • acotrel says:

      06:41am | 28/02/11

      Is this really important? How much does the AFL contribute to the Gross National Product? At least the Australian GP brings a few tourists!

    • dean says:

      08:23am | 28/02/11

      Well acotrel, if you want to take that approach is anything really important? Should all human endeavor not directly related to export production be halted? Perhaps we should all live within bland concrete slabs and work cradle to grave for the holy export dollar?

      What I would like to know is, what happens if we achieve One World Government? Does all industry become invalid and shut down because there’s nobody to export to?

    • Tim says:

      08:41am | 27/02/11

      I don’t actually know what you want the AFL to do Penbo?
      Should they try to ban Nixon (whose not even an AFL employee) simply because of allegations from someone who has been proven to be a liar in the past and has freely admitted she was out for revenge?
      Do you hold your own profession up to the same standards?
      This whole debacle reads like gross stupidity from some in the AFL and rank hypocrisy and possible entrapment from those in the media.

    • jf says:

      09:34am | 27/02/11

      By all accounts this woman seems like a bit of a loose cannon.

      However, the video footage of Nixon in the room with her is pretty damning. For a married man to have an extra-marital affair is one thing and none of the AFL’s (or anyone’s) business. On the other hand, for someone to have what almost certainly appears to have been an affair with a woman so much younger than himself, so close to the age of consent and so embroiled in controversy with the AFL and then to lie about it reveals Nixon as dishonest, untrustworthy, creepy, lascivious, undisciplined, opportunistic and lacking in judgement.

      I know that I wouldn’t want to have anything to do with a person like this socially or professionally, So, maybe the AFL can’t remove him from the game but they sure as hell can decline to negotiate with him.

    • Dig a little deeper says:

      01:55pm | 27/02/11

      JF - you realise that despite the girl’s best efforts she and RN are never seen in the same room at the same time in the “video evidence” don’t you?  And you know that the on the bed with remote control shot and the falling into bed shot were taken in two different rooms?  Here’s an idea for you - **two bedroom apartment**.  Heaven forbid you consider that he might be telling the truth - what if he had too much to drink and crashed at her **two bedroom apartment** in a separate bedroom.

    • Matthew says:

      09:46am | 27/02/11

      Schadenfreude: Also a term which might accurately describe the St Kilda Schoolgirl at the heart of all this controversy.
      It’s very easy to beat up on her, but I think we do have to question, at what stage do we stop viewing her as the victim. I very much doubt that Nixon went to her apartment with the intention of taking his clothes off (perhaps, being a manager, he should’ve met her somewhere private) but clearly she did something to change his mind. That doesn’t however excuse his actions.
      I make this point because, although I agree that there is and has been an Afl elitism for some years, the extent of this lengthy issue is based on 1 girl and 5 men, it’s hardly indicative of the entire code.

    • Sam says:

      02:12pm | 27/02/11

      ‘I very much doubt that Nixon went to her apartment with the intention of taking his clothes off (perhaps, being a manager, he should’ve met her somewhere private) but clearly she did something to change his mind.’

      What would that something be Matthew?

    • Gregg says:

      09:57am | 27/02/11

      Penbo, with the schadenfruede be wary of getting a runny egg topped wiener schitzel on your face though I’d not mind a cream laden Apple struedel right now as long as we hadn’t go the bad apples!, but with
      ” Over recent years as the code has grown bigger and more valuable there’s been a commonplace view among AFL fans, and many people who run the game, that it’s somehow morally superior to its rivals, none more so than its biggest rival, rugby league. “

      Sure the code expands and why not when the others are already outside of Oz to a far greater extent and who could say it is not an exciting ball sport and that is what it is all about, the skills of the game, it’s pace, and the exciting entertainment value for supporters.

      Morally superior is barely a concern and I imagine there’ll be many like myself who happen to enjoy watching some games of the other oval ball codes even if played on a rectangular field and will even get interested in some round ball games like Gaelic and Handball.

      And then in all forms of professional sport there’ll probably be examples of various shenanigans, even cricket if you like and then you mention a couple of AFL clubs that have also had player issues previously, even a coach of one club, a premiership coach at that apparently verbally attacking a player of the other in a quarters break, another premiership coach having been brought up before the game judiciary for an unseemly non verbal display, that same coach as a player never having ever been up before the tribunal as a player and the very sane player/coach is held in the highest regard as an ambassadorial developer of the game, one of the strongest supporters of indigenous peoples and other heritage factors of our nation woven into the game.

      Read the book ” Stand Your Ground ” by Kevin Sheedy for it’s a great read and what I’ve said above is just an example of how even good people can do some stupid things at times.
      And then there are just the stupid guys doing even stupider things and even bad criminal things, plyers who have had to leave clubs at times, one when a premiership captain and it could be said that club has struggled to recover from the depths of that debacle as the player himself has for if it Quacks like one it probably will until blasted and followers of the sport will know of the duck and another player with all sorts of problems, one even being a bit of a Willie Mason look alike.

      So yep, the AFL is not without its idiots, the foolish or even its villians when you think of Julia’s greatest player and who knows in seeing his king hit deed whether though she knew she would never play Fullforward for the doggies, it planted the seed for her own kinghit to become Queen.

      But whereas governments will soldier on and even a country can get past bad governments, so it will be for teams and the AFL, the longer term always to prevail.
      Even the political aren has its dills right from LG with a clown like Crameri http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8216996 and does he have a passing resemblance to that Senator Bill.
      Who can forget where Paul put his hand where no hand should have gone!
      And what of the Queen rumours and dangerous liasions not to mention some of those in her court even if of shorter stature.

      And yep, it all puts out there something we could do without and certainly what the victims could do without, whomever the victims are!

    • RobJ says:

      10:03am | 27/02/11

      “AFL and NRL needs to stop protecting women who set out to hurt them.”

      Errr, she’s a girl (17)  Nixon is how old? Married, with kids.  Using this as a pissing match to say ‘my code is more moral than yours’ is rather pathetic, that they’re worse than me hardly makes me good.

      Even if his thread is supposed to be tongue in cheek I think the matter is quite serious, you could’ve, should’ve picked different subject matter.

    • Ben81 says:

      12:23pm | 27/02/11

      Nixon was an idiot to even be in a situation where he’s alone with this girl, but she fabricated her story about the photos in the first place, was caught out lying, and finally even admitted she made it all up.  Innocent people were dragged into the mud, and she knew exactly what she was doing.
      The then made it her mission to get Ricky Nixon, trying to get him to meet with her and secretly filming so she could show the media.
      No sympathy from me at all.

    • Dig a little deeper says:

      01:58pm | 27/02/11

      She is not a “girl”.  She has been living independently for a long time, has admitted to drinking, drug taking, falling pregnant, travelling overseas to compete in sporting competitions, theft and credit card fraud.  In no way, shape or form is that WOMAN a child, or a girl (except for in the “not a male” sense).

    • BK says:

      08:49pm | 27/02/11

      If a middle aged bloke behaved like her, he would be in prison. They have been amazingly forgiving. How would you react if there were naked photos of you on facebook. Or if your credit card was stolen? Being 17 doesn’t excuse everything.

    • mk says:

      11:59pm | 27/02/11

      I wonder BK, did you offer Lara Bingle the same sympathy as Nixon & the other naked players? Did you vilify Fevola as heavily as the 17yr old girl? I love sport, but sadly, it seems to often bring out the greatest kinds of sexism.

    • BK says:

      09:12am | 28/02/11

      @MK

      Yes, I was sorry for Lara Bingle. Yes, I agree that Fev is a tosser. Why do you assume otherwise?

      On the matter of sexism, is it acceptable for dumped blokes to stalk their ex in this way? Would you be so defensive if a seventeen year old bloke was being demonised in this way? Why are women who enjoy casual sex often described as “liberated” and not to be criticised, while blokes who do the same thing are seen as deadbeats? Aren’t these the sort of double-standards that we should be moving beyond?

    • Gary says:

      10:43am | 27/02/11

      ...and while I’m at it, would there be such a hullabaloo if Johnny Jones the 22 year old bank johnny from Blacktown knocked up Shazza Smith the 16 year old check out chick from Rooty Hill? No there wouldn’t. Why? Because it’s not newsworthy. Would the media be hounding the Bankers Association over the incident? I think not.

      What I’m saying is that the St Kilda players involved have not done anything illegal. For that matter, unless there is drugs and alcohol involved, nor has the idiot Nixon. Our law shows that all parties are of the age of consent. Now, morally, many may not agree that it is lawful for a 47 year old to bed a 17 year old but that is the law and if we don’t like it (and I don’t) we should petition the government to change the law.

      Putting aside the drugs and alcohol accusations, the only crime committed here is the alleged theft of Nixon’s credit card by the woman involved. How has she managed to get off that? I’m guessing she probably wore her shortest skirt to the police interview, batted her eyelids and smiled sweetly at the interviewing officer.

      The media has fed this sorry tale for its own purposes. Personally I think many in the media have kept feeding it because they like the cut of this woman’s jib and fall over themselves to cop another perve.  What concerns me is that with the happenings in Libya and the earthquake in NZ, she’s been put off the front page and I guarantee she’ll be plotting right now, dreaming up some sort of sting to get herself back on that front page. This woman’s one goal was to be a ‘WAG’,coz that’s all she’s good for. That failed now she’s after revenge.

    • mary says:

      11:14am | 27/02/11

      Penbo it truly warms my heart when I hear a male with perspective on the whole saga.

      Any one still having a go at a seventeen year old girl .. it is time that you grow up and start taking responsibility for your own actions.

      And to all the girls out there of any age .. When a guy tells you that he can’t help himself .. you better believe him. Honey it is up to you, whatever age you are, to keep them off you. Because clearly at the end of the day, it is all going to be your fault. Regardless of his age, regardless of his marital status, regardless of the coercion, his power, the drugs, the drink, whatever is involved .. baby it’ll be your fault.
      You thought it was love .. he told you so didn’t he? And you believed it?hahahahahhahah ......

      That was funny .. try again ..  think again before you let anyone near you .. it truly is up to you girl, whatever your age.

    • Gary says:

      02:43pm | 27/02/11

      “it is time that you grow up and start taking responsibility for your own actions.”

      Cuts both ways Mary. This woman went out of her way to bed these fools. Time she woke up and took responsibility for her own actions, just like Nixon and the players involve must take the consequences of their actions.  Please do not give us any drivel about ‘she’s a child and doesn’t understand the consequences’. It’s wearing pretty damned thin now. Anyway, isn’t equality what feminists are after? Here’s a good start, everyone in this sorry tale takes their fair share of responsibility for their actions, including the fair lady.

    • Erick says:

      11:17am | 27/02/11

      Thank God all those pooor, defenceless, helpless girlies in the world have Big Brave White Knight Penpo to defend them! He’s not like all those other men! Penbo is strong and gentlemanly, and will always step forward to protect the poooor oppressed wimminz!

    • altoe says:

      11:58am | 27/02/11

      these are young underage girls who are often treated as ‘young and immature’ when it suits the public but in these instances, they are meant to have some responsibility they didn’t have the week before? Nixon is a grown man who should have known better - in this situation he is meant to be the mature one who should have the life skills and maturity of a grown man his age..plain and simple sports stars shouldn’t be hanging around young kids unless its at family day or their local training.

    • mmr 27 feb 2011 says:

      12:19pm | 27/02/11

      Sydneysiders will welcome the AFL in March 2011 much much much more than the potential NSW Liberal Party Government in march 2011.

      Only the mass media worships the Liberal Party.

    • iansand says:

      12:24pm | 27/02/11

      Great to see commenters proving Penbo’s point.

      At least the NRL has learnt to man up and condemn its malefactors, unlike the AFL that seems to be in some sort of ostrich head burying competition.

    • Cate P says:

      12:49pm | 27/02/11

      If a few young male teachers slept with schoolgirls, allegedly made a girl pregnant (unprotected sex?), photographed each other nude in hotel rooms on a school trip, and then the headmaster got caught on video with a school-aged girl in his underpants and what appeared to be cocaine on the table, would any of them still be teaching?  Their careers would be finished in disgrace, and they’d probably be in gaol.  And rightly so. So what is the difference?

    • mk says:

      12:01am | 28/02/11

      perfectly said cate.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      09:42am | 28/02/11

      Exactly Cate P.

      I actually think the damage is spreading over to Vic Police for not nipping this whole Saints sexaual assault thing in the bud a couple of years ago. If it was teachers they would be in jail by now….....and we wonder why AFL players seem to think they are above the law.

    • Markus says:

      01:22pm | 28/02/11

      “So what is the difference?”
      Teachers are under a duty of care. They sign on to the job knowing full well that any such action will result in termination and potentially even charges being pressed.

      AFL players are not. Should they be? Who knows.

      How about this hypothetical:
      If a young man was found to have planned revenge against an ex-girlfriend by stealing her personal belongings, videotaping her without her knowledge or consent, and has now admitted to lying to the media and in court about the events in question, would you have any such sympathy for him?

    • hot tub political machine says:

      01:42pm | 28/02/11

      Markus. Given the girl and the players met during an Auskick visit to the school I think you could make a very good argument the girl was under their care.

      Re your hypothetical - I guess it depends how young the young man is for me. I have felt a great deal of sympathy for the boys I’ve known that where used for sex by adult men.

    • Bilby says:

      02:08pm | 28/02/11

      hot tub - I sure hope it wasn’t an Auskick visit. Auskick is for kids under 12.

      Also (forgive my grammar) It is illegal for a teacher and a student under 18.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      02:24pm | 28/02/11

      Ah thanks for the correction Bilby - t’was a school clinic - not sure what its called when its over 12’s

    • Mel says:

      01:08pm | 27/02/11

      Spot on Penbo. As a Rugby League supporter living in an AFL state (WA) I can thoroughly atest to all you have said. The way they snigger every time they hear of a RL bad boy makes me sick. They take great delight in promoting RL bad news, actually i laugh and say it is the only time we hear anything about RL here is when there is bad news to be had. They have a serious case of superiority complex which is only encouraged by that arrogant Demetriou.

    • Ned says:

      02:37pm | 27/02/11

      I agree Mel: I’m an NRL fan in Tassie and its has been the same. Although I would say that a few years ago the melbourne media discovered (I think accidently) that AFL bad boy stories sell papers and get ratings on TV. Before then I had the feeling that these stories were known about but hushed up, whilst they happily report NRL bad boys. So now we get all the bad footballers stories, I’m looking forward to the inevitable netballer misbehaving, it will happen. What still beats me is that so many AFL supporters will forgive anything if the player is in their team, its as if they see the AFl players as gods with no human faults.

      As for those here attacking David and standing up for Nixon or attacking the girl, they need to go into a room of mirrors and have a long hard look at themselves.

    • Harquebus says:

      01:48pm | 27/02/11

      I see you are still feeding the morons their swill, eh Penbo. Filling stadiums is only going to get harder and harder. A good thing too. Spectator sport being a boring and irrelevant waste of money anyway. Let’s hear you contradict that.
      Peak oil mate, peak bloody oil.

    • mmr 27Feb2011 says:

      01:56pm | 27/02/11

      Is Ricky Nixon any relation to Christine Nixon?

    • Gary says:

      03:12pm | 27/02/11

      l might be misinformed but l believe neither the AFL nor the AFLPA have any jurisdiction over player managers and would lose any court case.As for elitism in the AFL,you have to be joking.Forests have been decimated over the years by Sydney newspapers reporting on so called “‘nude photo scandals’‘,Gary Ablett,Wayne Carey,Brendan Fevola,Ben Cousins,Ricky Nixon,not to mention the constant death riding of GWS.And im talking about the front pages.The AFL dont have a mortgage on superiority complexes.

    • Alex says:

      03:21pm | 27/02/11

      I think that there are a number of basic rules that the footballers should understand … I will write this slowly as some seem slow on the uptake (Note: the AFL and NRL might like to have copies printed and distributed):
      (1) young, fit, buffed, glamorous footballers will always attract fans.  Some may be female. Some may be quite young.  Some may offer sex in one way or other. It is ok to say “NO”. I am sure that is an amazing concept for some young virile males.
      (2) If it is legal and consensual, have fun, thank the person and go on your way. DO NOT pass the person onto a team mate.
      (3) So long as you are a “public person”, DO NOT have group sex. While some fantasise about it, it is NOT normal in the suburbs and for some mums (ie. your own and the ones bringing up the next generation of footballers), it makes you look kinky and a sleaze.
      (4) DO NOT allow this casual contact to have access to your mobile phone, wallet, credit card, computer or drug stash. I know that this is an amazing suggestion but most people don’t let strangers access to these things. (Note: there is a line of thought that says when the dick is in action the brain is not!)
      (5) DO NOT let them take photographs of you.
      (6) If you ignore rule 5 and they promise to delete the photo, check for yourself. Surprisingly, some people tell lies … amazing isn’t it!
      (7) If you have “private” photos on your mobile or computer AND if you are foolish enough to them have access to either (see rule 4), DO put them in an area that is password protected.
      (8) If things go pear shaped in the media, DO NOT call the person a “slut”, “tart”, “bike” or “slag” … it just make them angry and want revenge … (special note here for the St Kilda players).
      (9) DO NOT give the young person drugs. It makes it look as if the sex was not truly consensual.
      (10) If you happen to be more than 10 years older than the person in question …. DON’T.  It is impossible to justify your actions publicly and you look like an old sleaze.
      (11) If the person may be psychologically vulnerable, drunk, drugged etc … DON’T. It makes you look like a predator.
      (12) If you acting as a “support person” for a “vulnerable person” … DO NOT take your clothes off. While I am sure it is entirely innocent, it is difficult to explain to the general public.

    • BK says:

      08:54pm | 27/02/11

      Do you expect women to also say “no” to every offer of sex? Why does sex make men sleazy but women become victims?

    • Swarley says:

      03:57pm | 28/02/11

      In short, after finishing a game of football, crawl into your locker, switch yourself off, and wait to be reactivated, ready for the next match.  I have no idea what it was after the third or fourth point…it read like a lecture from an eighty year old church lady who wants to do her bit to avoid going to hell.

    • Alex says:

      07:01pm | 28/02/11

      To BK and Swarley, I will write this s-l-o-w-l-y as you do not seem quick on the uptake (do you play AFL or NRL?).  You also do not seem to understand the concept of “irony” (try googling it).  I was not saying either of the things you suggested. I was listing the things that get footballers into trouble ... unless you are Todd Carney and alcohol gets him into trouble. If I was writing a list for TC I would have written:
      (1) If you been threatened with gaol try and limit your alcohol intake.
      (2) If you have been given your driver’s licence back on a P plate basis with a zero alcohol limit EITHER don’t drink or don’t drive.  How about this amazing suggestion, catch a cab or get a friend to drive you home.  It seems to me that some glamorous footballers think that the rules that apply to every one else, does not apply to them. I call that either arrogance or totally out of touch.

    • Vinny says:

      03:27pm | 27/02/11

      You presume incorrectly that AFL fans perceive the NRL as a rival. A rival implies a serious degree of competition, however I recall a survey done a year or so ago asking AFL fans if the NRL was a threat to the AFL, to which something like only 5% responded in the affirmative. In my experience AFL fans see the NRL as more of a joke or an irrelevency than a rival, obviously your bias is causing you to project your attitudes onto the AFL, which also explains why you’re beating a dead horse to oblivion.

      As for all the tired muck raking hysterics, let us know when AFL players start getting busted chucking poo around or raping dogs mkay?

    • Nate says:

      10:34pm | 27/02/11

      Case in point. A perfect demonstration of “elitism.”

    • Vinny says:

      09:12am | 28/02/11

      I wouldn’t call minding your own business, not giving two figs about something that has no consequence to your life as “elitist”. Are NRL fans elitist because they don’t spend their days obsessing over volleyball?

    • biff says:

      03:35pm | 27/02/11

      Scandal, headlines for the wrong reasons, unlicensed and drunk driving, and other abhorrent behaviour tells me the football season is here once again.

    • Kevin says:

      05:17pm | 27/02/11

      If this was the NRL you’d be pedalling hard in the opposite direction, just like all the other tools of the Mudoch media protecting their investment in the NRL.

      In the News Ltd fantasy world, anyone remotely associated with the AFL who is entrapted into being in underwear in the same flat as a girl of legal age is evil incarnate and automatically presumed guilty of genocide. Even though the girl has a shocking record of deception, attention whoring and of deliberately seeking trouble, even though the accused is outside the control of the AFL and is almost universally despised within AFL circles.

      Naturally, if it was an NRL identity they would be forgiven immediately for their gullibility in being tricked by a contemporary Mati Hari , an unsympathetic society abused for not being understanding and the whole incident swept away as quickly as possible. You only need look at the hypocritical reporting of Joel Monaghan “simulated” (News Ltd speak for actual) incident for proof of that.

    • mk says:

      12:04am | 28/02/11

      you have clearly been living in a different world than me. I’ve seen plenty of NRL players hung out to dry by all forms of media, including Murdoch based papers!

    • Davo from St Kilda says:

      05:32pm | 27/02/11

      @ David - why more AFL-bashing? What have you got against our national sport? You’re wrong when you state that the AFL should be taking action against Ricky Nixon, and its so-called failure to do so is allowing the AFL to duck “the mother of all hospital kicks”. Only the AFLPA can do anything against players’ agents, not the AFL. As for your claim that evidence of poor behaviour by footballers is ignored or suppressed by those within the game, what are we doing right now? We’re all freely discussing this whole sordid mess, aren’t we? There is no suppression as can be seen by the wall-to-wall media reporting of the Nixon saga, and the nude-photo disgrace that preceded it. It has been out in the open since the story first broke. In fact, any football scandal always makes both the front and back pages of the newspaper. Suppression? Take a look around you and you’ll see that debate has always been open and transparent.

      Finally you’re wrong about rugby League being footy’s biggest rivals. The AFL has no rivals.

    • Levi says:

      06:36pm | 27/02/11

      And you just confirmed the authors point completely Davo. AFL feels it is superior regardless of the situation. Whenever the finger is pointed at bad behaviour within the AFL you all whinge that your being discriminated against (must be something to do with PC melbourne) and carry on about News Ltd.

      Fact is mate NRL outrates AFL in TV ratings so your claim to be the “national” sport is dubious at best, not to mention its actually international. Fortunately people overseas have recognised what a crap game AFL is and decided against importing it.

    • Davo from St Kilda says:

      07:28pm | 27/02/11

      @ Levi - are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that rugby is a national sport? You have no teams in SA, WA, TAS or NT, and the team here in Melbourne is still treated as a mere curiousity! And we don’t feel that we are superior - we ARE superior in any way you care to argue. Rugby is a third-rate sport with extremely limited national support. AFL wins hands down when it comes to crowds, membership, revenue, TV ratings, TV rights sponsorship from the networks, player salaries…. Should I go on? As for your unfounded claim that we feel ‘discriminated against’, how about you provide some proof. Poor behaviour by footballers is massively scrutinised by all and sundry here in the freat football states - always has been, always will be.

      Still, always love the line - “well, at least rugby is an international sport”. Who cares. While you’re sitting in an empty grandstand being jealous of football’s 80,000+ crowds, keep telling yourself that. Me - I’ll enjoy Australia’s only home-grown game.

    • Gary says:

      09:18pm | 27/02/11

      Levi, wake up. Of course NRL out rates AFL on television. Simple reason is that Sydneysiders are too bone lazy to get up off their fat arses and actually go watch a game. They’d rather sit in their comfy lounge chair with a beer can resting on their gut than actually get up, go outside and pay to see a game.

      Car’n the Hawks & Storm!

      Seriously, I’ve been an auusie rules follower all my life but I do enjoy a game of League as well. With League all the action can be seen in the one spot. With AFL there is action all over the field (leading for a mark from the ball coming from up or down field etc). Hence, AFL is a ‘spectator sport’, more easily appreciated ‘live’ whereas League can be easily viewed and appreciated from one’s lounge chair. 

      There really is no comparison betwen the 2 games, they are totally different and each has its merits, I just happen to have been born and bred in Melbourne and, therefore, enjoy aussie rules much more. Someone born in Sydney or Brisbane will enjoy League more. There’s nothing more to it than that.

    • Ned says:

      06:16am | 28/02/11

      Davo: you confuse rugby with rugby league I think. Go back to your insular AFL world. Most of us outside AFL world can follow a number of footy codes and it doesn’t hurt us one bit.

    • hermano says:

      07:30am | 28/02/11

      Wow, just wow.

    • richo says:

      04:42pm | 28/02/11

      Our national sport, yes our national sport that for most of its life was known as the VFL.

    • Jeefunk says:

      08:32pm | 27/02/11

      You’ll need quite a few more obscure German words if you’re to win this code war. In the mean time, AFL fans will continue to mock you in English. As for the massive list of AFL woes contained in this article, it ends up being two issues: one dropped case and the St Kilda controversy, which will be forgotten by the time we settle in to enjoy our superior code’s next home and away season. Not sure if you’ve noticed but that code usually includes record-breaking game attendances and club memberships. I look forward to seeing the Giants become a thorn in your western side.

    • Greg says:

      09:52pm | 27/02/11

      Who cares? I love these NRL turkeys always talking about the AFL, beavering away at some imaginary rivalry like little Roy Masters clones. I love how they assume AFL fans are subject to the same deep feelings of inadequacy as themselves. I love their ability concoct fictions and deny reality so vehemently, or even actually believe they are making a difference through perpetual lies. These guys crack me up more than every ‘dumbest person ever’ clip on youtube.

      Meanwhile the AFL minds its own business, generally does the right thing and keeps on growing bigger and better every year. In fact, what exactly has the AFL done wrong here? Is the AFL responsible for the immaturity of this girl? Is the AFL responsible for the actions of an old player agent? If we keep moving the line of personal responsibility, eventually the AFL will take over running the entire country.

      Anyhow, I’ll just file this article away as yet another example of delusional rubbish written by someone connected to the Daily Telegraph.

    • Seano says:

      10:08pm | 27/02/11

      Dropping a team into Western Sydney when the Swans are making losses is very arrogant.

    • Dean says:

      08:00am | 28/02/11

      The Swans are doing quite well actually and are the most successful football club in Sydney. I don’t understand why it would be arrogant of the AFL to start a new football club, unless of course you arrogantly believe it’s “NRL territory” even though the majority of people in Sydney have zero interest in rugby league.

    • Seano says:

      10:30am | 28/02/11

      “The Swans are doing quite well actually and are the most successful football club in Sydney. “

      http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-swans-dive-to-big-cash-loss/story-e6frexwr-1225820982027

      You want to get your facts straight champ, as I’ve said posting losses and hardly the most succesful club in Sydney.

      “I don’t understand why it would be arrogant of the AFL to start a new football club, unless of course you arrogantly believe it’s “NRL territory”

      1. It is NRL territory.
      2. Personally I don’t mind the competition, your game is silly, so bring it on. But to putting a team in GWS when Sydney struggles to support the Swans or even one basketball team and has too many NRL teams whilst ignoring AFL heart lands is beyond arrogant, it’s stupid as well.

      ” even though the majority of people in Sydney have zero interest in rugby league.”

      How typical of the ignorance and arrogance of the AFL, and the reason why I and many other sports fans are now completely blanking the code.

      NRL out rates AFL on TV. NRL Crowds are up every year and I can tell you as a teacher of children in GWS the only thing they’re interested in is how will Ben Barba go at the dogs this year or getting on the Hayne train.

      If you think the GWS Gnats are destined for anything other than the scrap heap after a couple of years of struggle you’re dreaming.

    • Bilby says:

      11:36am | 28/02/11

      Seano - My kid’s teacher thinks everyone in the area is a league supporter too (bunnies heartland). Thing is that in the last 10 years, two local JAFL clubs have sprung up while 5 local junior league clubs have folded. The club closest has had no need to expand, while the JAFL club has expanded to two grounds, and is now building a stand and rooms. Sit back. Enjoy. It’s only a matter of time.

      Oh and an increase from 3 to 6 people in the crowd, while a 100% increase, still doesn’t represent anything to write home about.

    • Seano says:

      12:42pm | 28/02/11

      Bullshit I say. But yeah Bilby there are plenty of Victorian refugee in Sydney who will try and hang on to their roots.

      You keep dreaming about expansion and world domination, you’ve reached saturation point. Sit back and watch the GWS fold, I give it 3 years before the AFL has to stop pouring money, the Gold Coast wont be far behind.

      But the real problem that you can’t address about AFL is that it really is a silly game and as such will never take off anywhere else. In the meantime you guys a doing an excellent job of alienating sports fans like myself with your imperialist attitude.

    • Dean says:

      01:45pm | 28/02/11

      Seano, you leave me torn between pity and scorn. Scorn because you’re telling blatant lies, pity because you’re so obviously terrified.

      You need to lose the 1970s attitude and realize the success of the AFL doesn’t mean the death of the NRL. People can enjoy both.

    • Bilby says:

      01:57pm | 28/02/11

      Seano - Ok… you’re right. It was 5, not 2, and 12 years not 10. Looking at the Sydney Harbour Juniors alone:

      Drummoyne Power (1999)
      Newtown Swans (1999)
      Maroubra Saints (2000)
      Concord Cats (2005)
      Moore Park Tigers (2008 from memory… might be 2007)

      Way back when the clubs were certainly mostly made up of SA and Vic expats, but that’s not the case any more. These clubs are filled with Sydney boys, from Sydney families.

      I’m not as familiar with the league clubs as I am with AFL, so you can fill in the blanks.

      I understand that it’s tough following a second rate sport that has repeatedly failed in non-eastern states, but there’s no need to push it on me. I didn’t alienate you. Your inferiority complex did that for you.

    • Seano says:

      04:34pm | 28/02/11

      @Deano - look at the link champ the Swans are going bust, best to keep your pity for them and your scorn for AFL who decided to force another team into an over crowded Sydney market.

      I was happy to co-exist with AFL, I even used to go to Swans games (and Cats games when I lived in Geelong), I was at the SCG when Lockett kicked his record. But it was the continuous stupid arrogance of the AFL types and their condescending bullshit attitude towards every other code in this country (not just the NRL) that has turned me off. That and the fact that it really is a silly game.

      @Bilby - Don’t make me laugh, a handful of clubs that can barely put a team together is the best you can do? As for inferior? A bloke pulling his socks up for three minutes before kicking a ball verses Vatuea busting through 3 tackles to crash over for a try….no contest. You can keep your snooze fest, your arrogant attitude and your sparsely populated kids sides. Enjoy watching the GWS Gnats crash and burn, I know I will.

    • Dean says:

      06:24pm | 28/02/11

      Seano, I am already familiar with football business cycles thanks. The Swans are financially secure. Only recently they signed a sponsorship deal that makes them “richest uniform in Australian sport” that “dwarfs the commercial success of NRL clubs”.

      http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/swans-hitch-their-wagen-to-a-star/story-e6frexwr-1226000443582

      Here’s the truth champ, nobody cares if you’re happy to co-exist with the AFL or not. You’re part of a declining band of fringe die hards in which the AFL has no interest. Enjoy watching GWS become Giants of the Sydney sporting scene through your haze of denial and irrational terror.

    • Bilby says:

      06:49pm | 28/02/11

      Poor old Seano. So much to learn. A couple of those clubs are still going through their growing pains. It’s a 10 years cycle, so we can well expect the Cats and the Tigers to catch up to the others in time. The older clubs certainly don’t struggle for players any more. That may have been true 5 years ago, but things change. For instance the Saints now field multiple teams in most age groups, and have been so successful as to spawn a senior club.

      Now, if we are playing “cherry pick the shite bit”, I’m your huckleberry. How about a game with so little chance of a genuine turnover that you have to have a rule that ensures the other side gets a go? What about the complete farce of a scrum where a bunch of guys lean gently against each other as the ball is fed in the second row? What about the dummy half playing the ball, some big boofhead picks it up and runs… straight into the opposition. Again. And Again. And Again. But not 7 times. That would be too much. What about if you score, we’ll give you a free shot at more points? How does that make sense?

      Please feel free to keep your head in the sand attitude though. It makes the invasion so much easier. What is it that Sun Tzu says? “The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities…It is best to win without fighting.”

      Btw… what do you actually do for your code over and above spouting off on a blog? Are you a club member? Do you support grass roots footy in any way? Is league a stronger code for your involvement? Somehow, I doubt it. I’m guessing you, like most league “supporters”, are attempting to ride the reflected glory of other people’s hard work. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • Davo from St Kilda says:

      08:28pm | 28/02/11

      @ Seano – Lets look at the facts, pal. The AFL attracts more than 7 million fans through the gate each year, while rugby league barely passes 3 million, despite having more teams and playing more games. More than 600,000 people are paid up members of the AFL, while a mere 120,000 people bother to sign up to their local NRL club. The Sydney Swans average crowd in 2010 was 31,000 while the average NRL crowd was a mere 16,000. Face it Seano, rugby is a dying sport with declining support. Aussie Rules is the ONLY sport followed all around the country. We set up a second team in Sydney because we can. And soon you will have a third team. Why? Because there is support everywhere for Australia’s only homegrown sport. Whenever I see rugby league on the TV, all I see is young blokes in the crowd and cheerleaders on the ground. You alienate women, children and families. Aussie Rules appeals to the entire community and always has families in the crowd, unlike rugby. Do yourself a favour, Seano – get a Giants membership and join the winning side.

    • Seano says:

      06:58am | 01/03/11

      Oh please, I was comparing major score to major score Bilby. How desperate are you that you have to stretch to the technicalities of the game?

      Oh and yes I’m a member, I go to games, I have foxtel so I can watch the ones I can’t make. I buy the gear direct from the club and actually have my club’s new jersey in the mail even though I have 7 other not too different jersey’s in my cupboard. I do what I can to support my club and the greatest game of all. Like I said I would have been happy to support AFL as a second sport but for the arrogance of AFL types like you. Plenty of my league friends feel the same, you’re losing a large potential market because you behave like a bunch of pricks.

      @Duhvo

      “Face it Seano, rugby is a dying sport with declining support. “

      NRL out rates AFL on TV. Our crowds are up every year. We only started promoting membership in the last 5 years. In the meantime the Swans are going bust and the AFL is so desperate for talent they have to chase NRL players. Note not the other way around, there’s not a player in the AFL who could cut it in our code. Your’s is a dumb argument, very dumb.

    • mk says:

      12:11am | 28/02/11

      While I don’t condone this girl’s actions, it’s really sad to see how deep the level of sexism goes in the AFL. In many ways this situation has highlighted it more than ever.
      The young girl has been labelled every name under the sun for posting naked photos of st kilda players, yet where was the scorn for Brendon Fevola when he took a picture of Lara Bingle without consent, and sent it around to fellow players?
      It seems the actions of players, (and one particularly vile fifty-something opportunist,) are either covered up by the AFL, or defended regardless of how disgraceful the act is.
      At least the NRL has been brave enough to face up to it’s problems.

    • Dean says:

      08:04am | 28/02/11

      That’s a complete misrepresentation of reality. You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about and are simply spinning madly because you have an irrational hatred of the AFL.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      11:48am | 28/02/11

      @mk says:12:11am | 28/02/11
      “At least the NRL has been brave enough to face up to it’s problems. “

      Had no choice, probably due to the volume of incidents

    • Tom says:

      04:29pm | 28/02/11

      How exactly has the AFL covered this incident up MK? It has been dominating every newspaper and online news service in the country,  Demetriou has been quoted as saying Nixon is an idiot, and rang him personally to deliver the message in no uncertain terms. The simple fact is they have no other power to act over this clown, but rest assured life will become difficult for him from this point on.
      And where was the scorn for Brendon Fevola when he released the Lara Bingle pics? Exactly what planet were you on at the time that you missed this?
      Both NRL and AFL always have and always will have these problems because the fundamentals are the same - high profile fit young men with too much money and too much spare time, and an adoring public willing to do anything to be part of their lives.
      Attempts to turn this into a slanging match towards the AFL (or NRL) are just pathetic. If anything, we should be talking about how this highlights the dangers of kids having unfettered access to publish whatever they like on social media sites.

    • Mark Young says:

      09:10am | 28/02/11

      I agree David. Good article.
      There will be a time when a light bulb comes on above the heads of the players and officials and they realise that (rightly or wrongly) nothing they do publicly or privately is off limit to the general public. The NRL is well aware of this, its time for the ALFl to get on board.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      10:33am | 28/02/11

      Ricky Nixon was and is a goose. The perception is that the whole saga was inappropriate. Was it morally wrong – who knows given that the jurnos have placed a great story in the way of the truth. Was the law broken, to the best of my knowledge no charges have been laid. Surely, you would have thought that after the St Kilda incident, you’d have a female police officer by your side if you had to go anywhere near this female.

      As for schadenfreude - I disagree – this is an extreme description.  You are implying that the whole AFL is tarnished by this brush. If I were Andrew Demetriou I’d be feeling pretty happy with the way the game was progressing.  A little smug and confident, possibly but that would be no different to the behavior of other CEO’s running very successful businesses.

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      10:38am | 28/02/11

      Perhaps instead of putting her up in a hotel and surrounding her with the football commuity, they should’ve sent ‘the girl’ on a sailing trip with Jessica Watson?

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