Roma, some 600km west of Brisbane, used to be a country town where you could drive your car onto the airport tarmac to pick up friends arriving on the few flights servicing the place.

Decrepit Roma, with no coal seam gas mining. Pic: Universal Pictorial Press

It had a small motel many years ago when I lived there but most travellers stayed at pubs with names such as The School of Arts.

The population back all those decades ago when sheep and cattle ruled was nudging 5000. Compared to some of the neighbouring towns such as Injune and Wallumbilla, it was a big place.

Today, Roma is getting an 83-room motel, and the airport terminal a $15 million overhaul to help it better deal with the 35 flights a week now on the airline schedule.

There are other changes. An area which was farmed by burly Anglo-Celtic chaps with names such as Ranald and Dougald now has an increasing number of school kids for whom English is a second language, some from Vietnam.

And the town’s population in nine years is expected to reach 15,000 – and keep going up.

The reason for this massive re-invention of a proud but tiny western village, which not long ago faced certain death as young people left it and money stayed away, is coal seam gas.

The extraordinary geology of the region – part volcanic remains, part leftovers from an inland sea, lots of artesian water and gas – is an ancient gift of life for Roma and surrounds.

“It’s bigger than the wool boom of the early 50s,” said local federal member, the Nationals’ MP for Maranoa, Bruce Scott, a Roma man all his life.

Wool and meat remain important, but Scott says these days fluoro vests outnumber RM Williams boots.

Those television advertisments paid for by mining companies to claim there are wonderful community endowments from CSG are obviously self serving. But that doesn’t mean they are untrue.

Roma, for example, now has a Care Flight helicopter which in six months has airlifted people from 20 accidents.

However, there is a powerful belief in major cities such as Sydney, and among influential media and political people, that CSG is an unredeemable evil.

It can ruin aquifers, wreck bountiful farmland, and subject land owners to the well-funded tyranny of giant mining companies.

At the extremes this might be so. But it can also bring life to towns which those hurrumphing people in Sydney and Canberra might never before have thought about.

The political point is that if the Government bows too deeply to demands for action on – or against – coal seam gas exploitation from the Greens or independent Tony Windsor, it might find a particularly nasty rural rebellion on its hands.

Bob Brown and Windsor want, at the very least, a study into the possible harmful effects of CSG mining, with Tony Windsor tacking this demand onto conditions for his support for a mining super profits tax.

They aren’t CSG fans.

Labor doesn’t hold many of the seats involved with CSG mining, but the Coalition does.

And if Sydney Liberals think they will have a free run prosecuting the expansion of CSG projects, they will have their partners the Nationals to contend with.

Bruce Scott says precautions have to be taken, and that they have in Queensland under the Anna Bligh Labor State Government

There are buffer zones keeping CSG mining away from residential areas; prime agricultural land is protected; the miners have to integrate with the existing local economy, not the other way around.

Nationals Leader Warren Truss, another Queenslander, yesterday released “a blueprint for coal seam gas development in Australia” .

It covers what it says are the economic, environmental and community concerns about CSG, but clearly its purpose is to allow the projects to progress, not to halt them.

“Managed properly,coal seam gas has the potential to revitalise parts of regional Australia, delivering a new economic boom,” said Truss.

The Nationals are talking about one of the few, sustainable options for hope among dying rural communities. Don’t get in their way.

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    • Gary Cox says:

      05:15am | 07/11/11

      Didn’t Tony Windsor sell his main farm to a CSG company then go and buy another couple that had CSG prospects? And he’s not a fan? As for the greens well they’re not fans of anything, no surprise there.

    • Super D says:

      06:19am | 07/11/11

      Windsor sold out to traditional open cut coal miners.

    • Andrew says:

      06:52am | 07/11/11

      Is there anyone at all out there with a balanced view of Australia political parties? If this country was Iraq under Saddam Hussein, you might be on the right track, Gary. As it is, you present as another case of “switch off brain, turn on hate”.

    • Ken Parkinson says:

      08:17am | 07/11/11

      No he didn’t sell his farm to a CSG company. He sold a small portion of his family property to a coal mine that had been in existence for several decades.

      HE did buy another property that was covered by an exploration permit. Given that NSW is 92% covered by exploration permits, you could buy a house anywhere in the sydney basin and you’d be covered by an exploration permit.

      Lots of people of who vote liberal and labour are opposed to coal seam gas.

    • frank hetherton says:

      09:03am | 07/11/11

      slandering tony windsor in this way without proof is very unaustralian

    • RyaN says:

      09:44am | 07/11/11

      @Gary Cox: One can only surmise that all of what you mention was part of a larger “loyalty” package.

    • Gary Cox says:

      10:42am | 07/11/11

      Hey I was only asking the question. That’s what Steve Price said on 7pm project the other night

    • Roo says:

      08:40am | 14/11/11

      No, He didn’t. He sold to a coal company because there wasn’t much choice - if he stayed he’d have been surrounded by a coal mine. No-one in their right mind would buy in a csg field - no meaningful compensation, ruined equity and 24/7 noise & disruption when they drill wherever they like on YOUR land. And that’s before you even begin to look at what might happen to the water.

    • The Hungrey Ghost says:

      07:31am | 07/11/11

      Windsor is a hypocrit with more money in the bank.  It is incredible that CSG comes before fertile ground which feeds us.

    • ronny jonny says:

      07:37am | 07/11/11

      I have worked in the CSG industry in Qld and the impact on farm land is absolutely bugger all. A fw well heads poking out of the ground and some pipes running here and there. The farmers still run their cattle with little to no disruption. The thing that really caught my eye when in the region was how much land was empty or stocked at very low numbers. A few farmers sitting on vast acreages benefitting no one but themselves isn’t really a good thing in my opinion. Ask ringers from the area if they’d rather be exploited by farmers or earn good money from mining/CSG.

    • chungo mung says:

      08:08am | 07/11/11

      The initial impact perhaps, what can you tell us of the longer term effects. Is this going to be a case where we go he’ll for leather on csg, then cause dire environmental consequences on these ares and look back in the future to say ” well it’s easy to understand the effects looking back - hindsight has 20/20 vision” and excuse ourselves of responsibility for what we do when we are so hungry for economic growth?

    • Ken Parkinson says:

      08:20am | 07/11/11

      Ronny Jonny, your comments are so simplistic it’s unbelievable. You are just interested in making a buck. The industry relies upon mindless people like you with no conscience.

    • ronny jonny says:

      09:01am | 07/11/11

      Unfortunately Ken, some of us need to make a buck. These industries benefit the entire community which allows people like you to sit back and moan from your armchair. You aren’t one of those useless blockies from that area are you? Concerned someone may stumble across your crop?

      chungo, that is true of all industry, I spose we could shut down everything that may or may not have long term consequences but where would we be then?

    • Paranoia says:

      09:07am | 07/11/11

      Sweet pea, you really need to have a look at how agriculture actually works before you start this… because cattle and sheep don’t work in a factory setting and can’t all graze in little spots.  They actually need lots of space, because they eat grass (I know this is blindingly obvious, but it seems to have escaped you).  Factory farming is not only bad for the animals, it’s bad for the people who consume the end product, and it can’t be done with grazing animals.  Hence the “low numbers”.  Also, most farmers will be leery of the prospect of another ten year drought like the one that was recently broken (by floods, I love Australia).  Is it more heartbreaking to watch your stock starve and die in a dustbowl or watch the water rise and drown them?

    • ronny jonny says:

      09:39am | 07/11/11

      Paranoia,
      I come from a farming background and where I come from it’s cows to the acre, not acres to the cow… If this land is so unproductive you need a million acres to feed one lousy herd aren’t you better off getting some more value out of it by driling few holes? Gets back to my point about benefitting more people than just the farmer. Sitting on 20,000 acres to make enough money for one family to live comfortably seems a bit of a waste of resources to me.

    • Susan says:

      12:07pm | 07/11/11

      Stocked at low numbers? You do realise that this sort of land doesn’t hold high cattle numbers per acre for obvious reasons. And also hence the vast acreages on such properties.  You talk like you’re somewhat anti-farmer.  My concern is more the tapping of the artesian basin in SA etc. That needs to be addresses very quickly otherwise we will ruin our countries water supply and the integrity of much land.

    • chungo mung says:

      02:01pm | 07/11/11

      ronny, it is true of all industries, but the choice does not lie in only the two extremes - do nothing, or industrialise willy nilly - the choice lies between them and should be about working out the real effects of pumping chemicals in to that part of the sub-terrain and considering whether it is worth potentialy damaging the regions now, for a gain now and losing later.

    • AKoiLus says:

      08:14pm | 07/11/11

      Cough, cough. It’s what’s under the ground. The artisan water. Water millions of people need to LIVE! Something you people will never see. You just expect us to run into the streets in the future with cups in hand. So near sighted. So ignorant!

    • Nicholas93 says:

      05:32pm | 12/11/11

      My cousins farm is now unviable.  He has roads created by the CSG company running all over his paddocks that it means that some of his machinery don’t fit inside the paddocks.
      He is disgusted in how the gas company workers ignore his needs.  The roads were poorly designed and after repeated requests to fix them, they installed a drainage system that is above the road.  They’ve injured the animals and refuse to pay the vet bills.
      He hasn’t had the gathering lines installed, but with the wells 700-1000m apart he won’t have much paddock if the gathering lines consume another 40 - 60m.

    • Sarah says:

      07:40am | 07/11/11

      The problem is that most of the scare information about gas mining and fracking comes from american and british SHALE gas mining which is quite different to coal seam gas mining - different geology abd different equipment which means different effects of your actions. There’s coal seam gas mining in NSW which has been going for a decade with no hassles.

    • ken Parkinson says:

      08:24am | 07/11/11

      Sarah, your comments are nonsense. Gasland portrayed extensive Coal Seam Gas Mining. There’s plenty of Shale Gas mining planned for Australia.

      The CSG extraction you’re talking about in NSW occurs around Camden. There are only a few wells. Wait until there are 40,000.

      It really looks like you’re writing for a PR company. Would that be true?

    • Mark says:

      02:34pm | 07/11/11

      @Ken- and your comments reflect your political, ethical bias.. What’s your point??

    • John says:

      02:42pm | 07/11/11

      No Ken.  the extensive CSG industry in QLD and NSW is coal seam gas extraction. Not the shale gas which gasland was based on. Maybe you should investigate before you open your mouth.

    • Ken Parkinson says:

      11:42pm | 12/11/11

      Reply to Mark:

      Please don’t reduce the argument to politics. My comments are based on fact. Do your homework. I don’t vote for the “greens” either. Since when are ethics subjective? In a post-modern responsibility free utopia i suppose?

      Reply to John:

      On the contrary john I spoke with the director of Gasland. I asked him how much of his film referred to CSG versus Shale. Almost all the areas depicted in the film started as CSG areas e.g. powder river basin. The groundwater issues you see portrayed in the film come from both shale gas and coal seam gas extraction. Josh is also on the record in an interview stating same. It is you who should be careful!

    • Anna C says:

      07:58am | 07/11/11

      I heard Tony Windsor say last week that fracking of coal seams is responsible for the tremors which are plaguing some place in Wales.  He said that the report detailing this was commissioned by a mining company.  Is this correct or just some more anti-coal seam gas propaganda?

    • Ken Parkinson says:

      08:29am | 07/11/11

      The report was commissioned by Cuadrilla Resources via an independent contractor. The contractor told the truth about what happened but suggested it wouldn’t happen again. We’ll see if they are given another chance. There are lots of examples globally of earthquakes e.g Basel, Switzerland, South Australia, Java, Indonesia, Oklahoma, USA. In case the projects have been shutdown and abandoned.

    • Super D says:

      08:37am | 07/11/11

      Fraccing yes, coal seams no.  In the UK they are using Frakking to access shale gas - its conventional natural gas held in “tight” shales rocks.  The principle is the same - injecting water containing chemicals at homeopathic dilution levels to fracture the rock/coal thereby allowing the contained gas to escape more easily.

      I understand it is actually easier to fracture coal beds than shales meaning that less pressure is required to fracture coal ergo no earth tremors though happy to be rebutted if anyone knows differently

    • ronny jonny says:

      09:04am | 07/11/11

      Ken, are you really suggesting earthquakes are caused by fraccing? You think a bit of hydraulic horsepower has the energy required to move tectonic plates?

    • Geod says:

      12:49pm | 07/11/11

      Umm Ken Im a Geologist and I can tell you that while some groundworks (from mining) may cause slips and some movement within the DIRECT vicinity of the impact, you are not going to cause “earthquakes”. Mining companies are under more scrutiny then most other industries (and so they should be) but they are also some of the more environmentally friendly (as possible) companies because of this. Agriculture, while important for the obvious reasons, causes a hell of a lot of environment damage (more CO2 emissions in agriculture then in any other industry) and in Australia it is highly unproductive in most of our environments. I know we all need to eat but we are killing our environment just as much in agriculture as we are in mining

    • ken parkinson says:

      02:38pm | 07/11/11

      RJ and Geod,

      Do your homework. Get onto the internet and read some of the reports about the Basel earthquakes caused by Fracking for Geothermal power generation. I’m not talking the green pages or the local paper. Read the published engineer’s report and the report by the swiss government. The promoter of the project is up on criminal charges. Then read the reports on the Origin Energy Geothermal Hot Dry Rock project at Innamincka, South Australia. Read how it was shutdown, abandoned and written off due to earthquakes. When you’re done there, go and read some of the American Geologists reports on Alta Energy’s efforts in the US.

      There is a wealth of information out there on induced seismicity that resulted in tremors and earthquakes. Cuadrilla’s is simply the last in a long line of examples.

      You’re both in the pay of mining enterprises quite obviously.  and no RJ i’m not from Tara. I’m not a farmer. Not a green leftie and i make my money from other than unsustainable destructive practices. So could you if you had any kind of decent morality to guide you.

    • ronny jonny says:

      03:13pm | 07/11/11

      Hey Ken, speaking of morals, I hope you don’t utilise any products from the oil/gas/mining industries in your daily life or your super clean business. What do you do? Manufacture fairy farts?

    • bananabender says:

      06:43pm | 07/11/11

      @Ken Parkinson,
       
      hot rocks have absolutely nothing to do with either shale gas or CSG.

      Geodynamics has not stopped drilling at Innamincka because of earthquakes.

      You are living in a fact free zone.

    • Justine says:

      08:44pm | 12/11/11

      Ronny Johnny, you wrote:

      “are you really suggesting earthquakes are caused by fraccing?”
      Yes, an investigation into fracking following earth tremors in Great Britain has determined fracking to have been the cause.

      You also wrote:
      “You think a bit of hydraulic horsepower has the energy required to move tectonic plates”
      The “bit” of hydraulic horsepower your are referring to happens to equal 6 pumps at 20,000 PSI each. Talk about a GROSS understatement!! Your ability to understate/overlook extremely relevant points is impressive!

    • Richard B says:

      08:29am | 07/11/11

      Why hasn’t Windsor drawn the obvious connection between teenage acne and CSG extraction?

    • Macadamia man says:

      08:32am | 07/11/11

      So how about we confine the CSS mining tO areas with minimal agricultural value, researched and certain aquifer security and no geological instability to trigger? Why does it have to be open slather, if there’s so much to extract and so much demand for so long to feed?

    • J1 says:

      12:55pm | 07/11/11

      Sadly, there’s this minor consideration, which is the location of the resources. If the (CSG) resources were there, don’t you think the companies would prefer to extract it from low-agricultural-value regions? It just so happens that the resources and agriculture are co-located, which means proper management of such is the key.

    • ken parkinson says:

      02:42pm | 07/11/11

      J1, more ill informed clap trap. There’s plenty of gas in low yield agricultural areas. Problem is it’s more expensive in terms of business inputs to extract. So the CSG companies stay as close as possible to the coast.

      The opposition to CSG is about raising the cost to produce in high yield areas so the CSG people move further out west.

      Watch this space.

    • Joel B1 says:

      08:35am | 07/11/11

      Nice informed and balanced report Farr.

    • samantha says:

      07:50am | 08/11/11

      I am sure that the article by Malcolm Farr is worth reading, but I can’t get over the shock of seeing the picture of Roman ruins that accompanies it.  It seems to prove that “those Southerners” know nothing about the rest of Australia. Maybe it was irony.  As for the real Roma, it is a great little town with wonderful people.  Its history includes gas street lighting long before most of Australia had it.

    • Ken Parkinson says:

      08:38am | 07/11/11

      Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. A wonderful piece of Farr Fiction.

      Let’s see how Roma’s going in a few years.

    • JT says:

      10:04pm | 07/11/11

      Roma was and always will be a prosperous town with CSG or without it.To say the town faced certain death before CSG came along is BS Malcolm.Take a visit out there and talk to some of the locals and find out for yourself

    • Mattb says:

      08:40am | 07/11/11

      Coal seam gas. The one issue that, if they don’t manage correctly, could tear the liberal national coalition to peices. It’s already beginning to bite queenslands LNP, there is talk of LNP members from traditional national party seats defecting to bob katters Australia party over this very issue. Shit, there’s even talk of the greens picking up votes in country Queensland over coal seam gas concerns, that’s unheard of up here in redneckville, but you’d have think that’s a slight exaggeration. The odds on independents, running on anti-CSG platforms, winning seats in country Queensland are looking better everyday.

      Warren truss’s little CSG ‘blueprint’ may need a bit of tweaking after the Queensland state election due early in the new year…

    • Don says:

      08:41am | 07/11/11

      Yeah well !! I have read that ‘fracking’ chemicals can poison the water to a degree and cattle from these areas have to be withheld from the saleyards. Also , aerial photos of the affected areas can ‘break your heart’ .
      It’s all very well to say that you have worked there and other stuff saying no problems,people working for the ‘cause’ and all that ,but unless one actually sees it in person , I do not believe it. These companies have wrecked the Rocky Mountains and other areas , and then move on to rape other places .

    • AKoiLus says:

      08:19pm | 07/11/11

      To Right! Exactly what they do. RAPE! Not just today but for generations

    • Shooter says:

      09:01am | 07/11/11

      Let them do it to your property your family or family’s property.  What makes you an expert on CSG Malcolm? Have you studied in the field or are you just following you party’s propaganda?

    • john says:

      09:30am | 07/11/11

      This doesn’t excuse plans to do so in urban areas such as st peters in sydney.

    • CSG at what cost? says:

      09:42am | 07/11/11

      Oh yeah, coal seam gas is brilliant for smaller communities. Take Gladstone for example; house prices have skyrocketed, naturally followed by rent. We’ve lost skilled workers in small businesses to the LNG companies. We have more people in town than ever before but smaller shops are closing down daily. Teachers and nurses don’t make near enough money to afford to live here now, and it’s only getting worse. Our hospital wad already a mess due to underfunding, CSG companies have thrown money at the hospital to upgrade services - although I’m not sure how it’s helped - but what good is that if we can’t get nurses to move here? Our infrastructure is buckling under the added weight and a large number of locals have turned into a seething mass of hate filled, petty whiners. Most of us are waiting for the day people start physically turning on CSG workers and out of towners. A comforting thought indeed since my husband is a CSG employee and I’m from out of town. I suppose it is possible for CSG projects to be beneficial on the whole, when properly planned out and executed, but you couldn’t tell it by us. Cheers Malcolm, we can’t thank you all enough.

    • Gareth says:

      09:43am | 07/11/11

      Reinvention of Roma now due to CSG? Roma has been the centre of extensive oil and gas exploration and production since the 1960’s. I worked for a company in the late 1980’s that owned significant parts of the Surat Basin (around Roma) and made Roma the production centre for their activities there. Not much looking through rose coloured glasses by Farr here.

    • onlooker says:

      09:44am | 07/11/11

      I don’t know much about this topic, but when all these minerals and gas are gone we are not going to be left with much apart from holes in the ground. If it affects farmers and the water table then why do it? We will always need food and water, why can’t they go in the desert and dig?

    • RyaN says:

      09:54am | 07/11/11

      Wow, just wow, let us just for an instant imagine that this Coal Seam Gas travesty was happening under a Liberal government. Your opinion Mal would be completely different wouldn’t it?
      Sadly the fact that you cannot seem to be objective makes most of us take any news article you write as nothing but outright propaganda.

    • fairsfair says:

      10:13am | 07/11/11

      I agree RyaN. I work in the industry and there are mixed views within my office. At the very least, those opinions are based on differing expertise, but even though I have listened to countless views on this matter - this one just reeks of political motivation.

      I agree with a lot of it, but seriously, it reeks.

    • PsychoHyena says:

      10:15am | 07/11/11

      @RyaN I’m a little confused here. At no point was it said that Labour or Liberal supported it, only the Nationals, and that Liberals would be at a disadvantage should it become an election issue as they are tied so closely to the Nationals they would need to either call off the Coalition OR follow the National line on this one.

      This is also true for Labour at the moment. They can’t support the industry as the Greens and Windsor would remove their support for the Government, they can’t go against the industry otherwise people continue the whole Gillard and Brown stuff.

      However, if Labour organises the research into CSG and the information comes back saying there is little to no negative impact, then Labour will have the Greens onside, Liberals will likely support it or face the backlash of not supporting development and the potential loss of Nationals support. If this happens then it becomes a non-issue next election.

    • Mattb says:

      01:05pm | 07/11/11

      @ryan

      “Wow, just wow, let us just for an instant imagine that this Coal Seam Gas travesty was happening under a Liberal government. Your opinion Mal would be completely different wouldn’t it?”

      Well it’s not a liberal government that we have at present so that makes your above statement pure speculation.

      I think that the point Malcolm is trying to make that the liberal and national parties, whilst they aren’t in government at a federal level, are the parties that the CSG issue is going to affect the most. Labor couldn’t give a toss, the electorates CSG extraction is occurring in have never ever been close to becoming labor electorates. As far as labor is concerned, CSG is good for the economy, which makes them look good, so why bother worrying about the concerns of constituents that will never vote for them anyway. These people will vote independents before they vote labor and may vote for independents that are against CSG before they vote national in the next election, thats the worry. Thats not, as you suggest, outright propaganda, just the cold hard truth…

    • ken parkinson says:

      02:50pm | 07/11/11

      j1, That beneficial re-use water you’re talking about is full of heavy metals and toxins. It’s not regulated by other than the council who don’t test it. It doesn’t comply with Australian Drinking water guidelines. Suggest you go and drink it. Roma wasn’t short of water beforehand but Origin did have a problem with disposing of their excess process water. So they decided to dump it into the local aquifer. Charming stuff!

    • RyaN says:

      05:04pm | 07/11/11

      @Mattb: Absolutely it is pure speculation, I did say “imagine”. What I was inferring is that this Mal Farr bloke seems to have few scruples when it comes to his partisan support for the Labor party.

    • Jonathan says:

      10:02am | 07/11/11

      Thanks, Malcolm, for a very interesting piece.

      I was in Roma earlier this year for a six week placement as part of a health degree I am currently completing.  As any visitor to the Big Rig museum in town would know, Roma was the first place in Australia oil and natural gas was found.  It is amazing now that Roma, a town built around the first oil boom, is buzzing again as a result of CSG prospecting.

      The trip out to Roma demonstrates the effectiveness of the various companies’ strategies with engaging with the rural population.  Travelling west along the Warrego Highway, there seems to be fierce opposition around Chinchilla - an area principally being surveyed by Queensland Gas Company - with a large preponderance of the familiar ‘Shut the Gate’ signs adorning properties on the approach into town.  In contrast, not much hostility was evident in Roma - principally surveyed by Santos. 

      Depending on your point of view - where one person might describe it as bribing the population another would describe investing in services of mutual interest to the town and the company - Santos have pumped significant amounts of money into town infrastructure.  Malcolm has already canvassed the airport upgrade and the retrieval chopper, Santos sponsor many local events and have pledged to construct an allied health wing to the local hospital.

      The key difference, however, between the boomtown Roma of old and this current race to find CSG around town has been the development of air travel.  Where prospectors originally had to move to town with their families on a permanent basis, now it is impossible for a casual visitor to get a motel room on a weeknight while FIFO workers are staying over.  Car rental companies operate fleets of familiar white utes which are parked en masse in the grounds of the airport over the weekend.

      These are just observations.  As Malcolm points out, as a city boy I am loathe to telling people from regional towns like Roma how they should best manage this new and interesting industry.  If they can harness it effectively to sustain themselves in the long run, this is a really good thing.  However, I fear that unlike the old boom - of which Roma was a key part of the story - this time the preponderance of FIFO work practices may not sustain the towns and make life difficult in the long run for its permanent residents.

    • Brains vs Brawn says:

      12:54pm | 07/11/11

      At last - an objective view on this issue! Roma and it’s residents are experiencing that which is and has been happening in recent times due to mining booms, whether they be mineral or gas. Someone else has already commented on how it has affected Gladstone. Speak to anyone in and around towns elsewhere in this country and you will find towns such as Cervantes (WA), Cobar (NSW), Orange (NSW) and many more no doubt are and have experienced this kind of ‘growth’.
      Property and services become excessively expensive and more so through false demand that actual quality. Smaller shops lose employees and bigger shops move in. Smaller shops close. The ‘community’ nature of smaller towns ruined. Whilst it is beneficial for such communities to have the windfalls pumped back into the local infrastructure - there really needs to be a rethink as to how the integrity of a rural community is maintained. FIFO practices do not fully support the sustained ‘growth’ of a regional centre. Families do not stay in the area. Children do not attend the local schools. Nurses, teachers, doctors etc etc etc do not move to these centres. If we really want to see our regional areas prosper due to the ‘untapped wealth below’ - we need to have a huge rethink on how it is that our communities are supported.
      For the second - I am an avid National/Liberal supporter and have been since Keating stabbed Hawke. But I am still out on the effect of CSG - in particular fracking. If processes are followed as they seem to be in QLD - then all we can do is hope the precautions taken are adequate so that arable land, natural acquifers and our way of life are not affected. Given the millions companies are prepared to throw into communites - I am sure it is within the powers of relevant authorities to ensure that as a country, Australia leads the world in best-practice for this kind of mining. God knows we have the brains - we just have to let our brains actually trump that which seems to be an eternal battle against unrationalised greed.

    • J1 says:

      01:23pm | 07/11/11

      The other key point around Roma is the beficial water re-use. All water produced from CSG is supposed to be put to “beneficial re-use”.
      In the Roma area, one of the possible re-use methods being evaluated (CSIRO and govt agencies involved) is treatment/purification of CSG water and re-injection to recharge the aquifer used for town water supply, which has become depleted over many years of town use. I’d think ensuring continuity of town water supply would be a big plus to a local community.

    • willy says:

      03:01pm | 07/11/11

      sure cerantes had a cray fishing boom. now that its slowed down/ended a few deckies have left and the footy team doesnt win as often. property prices are high but thats true all up and down the coast, the real problem is the speculative investors who bought up huge areas, mostly around jurien and are sitting on them till they can make some money.
      the comunity is as strong as ever maybee even stronger now the deckies have been replaced by retirees.
      i dont know about the other town but i suggest you dont know what youre talking about.

    • John Davidson says:

      10:32am | 07/11/11

      I would have thought most of the opposition was coming from farmers of prime agricultural land where aquifers supply an important part of the water on which the farmers depend.  The land around Roma doesn’t fit this description.
      City based people may be supporting the campaign but suggesting all the farmers affected are pro CSG is blatent nonsense.

    • Aussie Wazza says:

      11:01am | 07/11/11

      Quid to be made; get in the smartmouths to convince the masses ‘Whats good for my wallet is good for you’. Problems? Later. Too late mate, I’m rich and gone before the shit hits the fan.

      Think how many road deaths would have been prevented if the wheel had been submitted to a parlimenatry committee for consideration and rejected.

    • St. Michael says:

      11:19am | 07/11/11

      “The reason for this massive re-invention of a proud but tiny western village, which not long ago faced certain death as young people left it and money stayed away, is coal seam gas.”

      This phrase made me chuckle.

      Not that I’m against mining or have an opinion on CSG as such, but substitute the words “northwestern” for “western” and “iron ore” for “coal seam gas” and you have probably what was said to Karratha, Roebourne, Broome, Meekatharra, and all the other one-pony towns in the northwest of WA ahead of Rio and BHP’s presence in the region.  They were doubtless all told how the introduction of large-scale mining would turn their settlements into Xanadu.

      The reality is somewhat different: skyrocketing rents, a high FIFO workforce that contributes nothing to the local economy, and the choking of the local economy because it can’t keep its workers away from the mountain of gold at the local mine.

    • Rob says:

      12:31pm | 07/11/11

      Great photo of Roman ruins…however it matches the quality of the journalism…get your basic facts right…rent a copy of “Gasland” and see it you believe this rubbish from Mr Farr?

    • See it for yourself says:

      01:49pm | 07/11/11

      @rob I wondered how long it would take someone to bring up gasland, which seems to be the lynchpin of the anti-CSG lobby. The film is a classic piece of propaganda, designed to whip up hysteria and fear. Never mind the fact that it refers to shale gas extraction, or that it has no relevance to the Australian legislative or regulatory environment.
      What people seem to forget is that major companies must be transparent and honest in what they tell the public, and face huge penalties if they don’t. Lobby groups and activists have no such requirement. Look at how Drew Hutton altered reports and research to suit his own cause before submitting it to parliament.
      By all means, don’t believe everything the major companies say (a certain level of cynicism and distrust is probably wise), but don’t get sucked in by the emotional rantings and shock-and-horror tactics of those on the anti-CSG side either. Try taking a drive out to places like chinchilla, sit at the cafe and have a chat with some people actually in the middle of this discussion. You might be surprised that the response is a little different to the media coverage.

    • I'veAlreadySeenIt says:

      09:32pm | 07/11/11

      Oh my gosh “See it for yourself”.  Are you kidding?  “Major Companies must be honest”..... Did you really say that?  As for gasland….“A classic piece of propaganda”  You mean to say they made it all up. What…in a film set perhaps.  With paid actors as well? 

      So tell me, what exactly in Gasland was ‘not actual occurance’?

    • Annie says:

      10:57pm | 13/11/11

      @ See it for yourself
      I didn’t even see Gasland until a couple of months ago. I knew about CSG, fracking and other ‘uncoventional’ gas extraction processes quite a while before then.  I did a bit of research, talked to ‘real’ people, not reliant on media or documentaries.
      My brother lives in a town that had one of three trial UCG plants in QLD, it is now closed down (underground coal gasification).  It was closed down because of water contamination of nearby propeties and the cattle tested positive for benzene and toulene.  It is a different process, but in some ways similiar and ‘unconventional’.  It still involves drilling through aquifers into the coal seams, which contain volatile organic compounds, such as benzene and toulene.  All of the ‘three trial plants have had ‘issues’.  I began looking into it much more closely. 
      I have talked to people who are from Roma, Tara, Chinchilla, Gladstone, etc.  Not all are ‘winners’, there are problems, there are some ‘horror stories’, though that is your term, not theirs.
      I grew up on a generational farm in NSW.  Agriculture is worth much more the the economy than mining and is long term, has been around for a while, if we look after it. 
      Tonnes of salt that are brought up from the coal seams will poison the soil for decades, the gas industry don’t know what to do with it.  Then there is the ‘free water’ that the companies get to use in industry, we pay.  Then there is the possible contamination, depletion and depresurising of aquifers, which Australia is dependent on, especially during droughts.

    • No More farming says:

      12:52pm | 07/11/11

      Windsor is the first person to sell and the buy and sell again land to the coal companies…dont try and cover it up by saying that it was under exploration.  Maybe the money Windsor made on selling both his properties to coal companies can go towards the scientific exploration on the damage our farmers have caused with ferterlisers and other chemicals they have been dmaging our country side with for decades.  Farmers are a thing of the past….they serve no useful purpose except to telll us all what a “bad” year they had the year before cause it was too dry, wet, cold, hot or snowing.  The sooner we realise that we can import cheaper food from overseas with an even better value than whay our whingin farmers can produce the better off we will be.  We are a mining country not an agricultural dumping ground for years of farmers pesticides.

    • Brains vs Brawn says:

      01:09pm | 07/11/11

      Would love to know where you are from…
      And where you have been…
      Why not just rape our land and be done with it - leave nothing for our children’s grandchildren…
      Bugger this history of this great nation, and how the ideals of the nation were formed…
      Pride? Do you know the meaning? Patriotism? Nah - let’s just give up one the likes of you and bury our head in the sand and let all this money be deposited directly into our rseholes!

    • No More Farming says:

      01:33pm | 07/11/11

      Oh yeah right….rape the land….decimate the future…you also forgot the sky is falling and pigs might fly!!!!....History ended yesterday and we dont live in the past…wake up and smell the future…our future doesnt include aniquated old farts living of farms poking cattle with electric devices to get them into a truck to kill them all.  I have more Aussie in my little finger than you have in your whole body, so my advice is simple..dont wave flags at me i served under the aussie flag for 15 years in all parts of this big world and dont want blithering old uniformed, reactive, green fools to decide the future of a country based on some hick in the backwaters of neverheardofagain.  Mining is a fact, as is the greed of Windsor and the other self righteous backstabbers who think they are helping this country…only if there is a profit in it for them.  Mining is a fact…not a fract….farming is a harm not a help!

    • AKoiLus says:

      01:44pm | 07/11/11

      Dude your head is up your ass. Oz has the best soil in those regions for FOOD growing. The safest products, and the best managed system one can find. Bet you have never bought food in a foreign country, and if you have there’s a good chance it came from here. You want cheaper then throw sickness and possible death into your f!@#$ed equation. DHead!

    • ozzy patriot says:

      05:14pm | 07/11/11

      you brain dead idiot, have a real good think about what you just said

    • AKoiLus says:

      08:52pm | 07/11/11

      lmao… answering a door knock can do that. Anyway I failed to add… The very best of their food supply comes from here. Particularly in Asia. Where for example Foot & Mouth is not a health issue to them. Chemical sprays banned in the West sold cheap the developing world. Is this what your expecting us to swallow?

      ding~ding!

    • Warwick John says:

      12:58pm | 07/11/11

      Motels are temporary places of accommodation, people fly into airports and then fly out again at the end of their shifts. The CSG gold rush will come to pass and Roma will return to being a ghost town. The question is how long will the gold rush last. The politicians claim it will last 20 years, therefore I would suggest about six years in reality, with the exodus starting from Roma within three years.

    • Aussie Wazza says:

      01:04pm | 07/11/11

      ‘NO MORE FARMING’ is quite correct.

      Our farmers are wasteful with little concern for the enviroment. Artificial fertilizers etc spread on willy nilly just to keep the chemical companier profits up.

      Farmers in many of the countries I visit are super enviromentists. They use genuine all natural shit and piss to fertilise.

    • Warwick says:

      01:31pm | 07/11/11

      A photograph of Roma? Well, maybe Mr Farr has adopted a post modern approach to journalism where facts are only relatively significant and conformity to the memes revealed in ancient mythology is of major importance.

      You still haven’t revealed what action will be taken when, after the “cities on the plain” have been destroyed, and the land “sown with salt,” the need for irrigated grazing land arises   once again.

    • Drinking Koolaide. says:

      03:30pm | 07/11/11

      Wow… Using Wikipedia and YouTube as reference material certainly has converted me!
      By the looks of it, you won’t need fresh water with all the anti-CSG Koolaide your drinking…

    • Drinking Gas says:

      12:26pm | 08/11/11

      @Drinking Koolaide Drunk to much red stuff?. Wiki quotes The Economist and YouTube streams award winning doco’s. Get off the Coolaide mate!

    • No More farming says:

      01:58pm | 07/11/11

      I guess all those that are jumping on the anti CSG banwagon are the same who siad it was ok for our destructive farmers to pollute our land since the 50’s…...read the below article
      Many people, including farmers, argue that pesticides are necessary for global trade. Many countries won’t buy food that hasn’t been properly sprayed with pesticides. Others argue that without pesticides, most of the world’s crops would die. Prices for food would rise tremendously, and land would have to be ploughed more, which would lead to over-farming and land destruction.
      Those who argue against pesticide use warn of the health risks involved. If pesticides are directly inhaled or consumed (if you’re around the spraying area, or there is still some residue on the food you’re eating), they can lead to symptoms ranging from fatigue and skin rashes to nausea and even death. Pesticides can also run off into waterways, polluting streams and rivers. Recent studies have also proven links to a significant increase in the chance of developing Parkinson’s disease and exposure to pesticides.
      Because pesticides are chemical-based, they often do not decompose properly, and can remain in soil and water for years. Similarily, concerns of bioaccumulation (increase in concerntration of a pollutant from the environment to the first organism in a food chain) and biomagnifications (the increases in concentration of a pollutant from one link in a food chain to another) are tied into pesticide use. The classic example is DDT, a pesticide used in the past to control mosquito populations, lice, and to protect crops. DDT is persistent in soil and can be quickly absorbed by organisms, which then pass the chemical on to their predators, and so on throughout the food chain. While DDT has since been banned in most devloped countries, DDT still continues to linger in within the environment.

    • ronny jonny says:

      02:03pm | 07/11/11

      I think FIFO is one of the great advances of the modern age. No longer do mining men and their famillies have to live in some remote hellhole with putting up with the local rubes. You go in, do your job, collect your money and fly away to somewhere nice for your days off. Honestly, who wants to live in these places? Would you?

    • milo of Brizvegas says:

      07:40am | 08/11/11

      As someone who used to fly in and thankfully out of these places I would be the first to agree. However some of the more cerebral local rubes have finally woken up and asked What is in it for us. That without a resources tax (the big Miners and opposition convinced them would cost jobs) and with a fly in fly out workforce, The miners get the profits from the mine and the Locals get the shaft.

    • Somebody says:

      02:05pm | 07/11/11

      Um, isn’t that a picture of Rome, not Roma?

    • Col Sanders says:

      11:18am | 08/11/11

      Pronounced the same..as in ‘arrivederci Roma.’ I think it may be may be irony or simply a homophone if you speak Italian.

    • Geoff Penn says:

      02:20pm | 07/11/11

      Windsor and Brown, now there’s a credible duo. Windsor sells out to a coal mining company and then joins the anti coal Brown to scream their fears of fracking but thats what these temporary MP’s do. Its called self serving.
      Neither traditional coal mining nor fracking has nil effects on the environment.
      Underground water cannot be 100% protected and what is MORE important, gas or water?
      Fast forward 100 years and this country is totally fracked.

    • DJ says:

      02:59pm | 07/11/11

      It’s called hydraulic fracturing or fracking, and some herald it as the future of clean, safe energy from natural gas. But from Pennsylvania to West Virginia to Arkansas, residents are seeing earthquakes, poisoned water courses and contaminated drinking water. And shockingly, over a 20 year timescale, shale gas has a higher greenhouse gas footprint than coal and oil. That’s because of the conveniently forgotten role of methane, a potent greenhouse gas, which is released during shale gas fracking.
      This is a rediculous idea, and no amount of advertising or public manipulation can remove the facts. It will prove as useless as ethanol. Ethanol is useless because the energy input is greater than the energy output, and most of the technology used to produce ethanol runs on oil / petroleum anyway.

    • Chris says:

      03:21pm | 07/11/11

      Instead of scaremongering stories predicting the sky is going to fall in, why not look at the facts of what has happened so far? There are almost 4,000 CSG wells in QLD and nothing dramatically bad has occurred. Looks like the technology works.

    • Brains vs Brawn says:

      03:28pm | 07/11/11

      @No More Farming…
      I’m not sure what it is that you do as a day job, but you obiously like to use the dictionary to find big words.
      May I suggest that you take up a gig as a Comedienne? Wait, no. You actually have to be funny for that to succeed.
      Although you must be given kudos for your elaborate display of reporting on the wonderful ability of hindsight and how we can see from mistakes how it is that our actions affect future generations…
      Gung-ho actions with regards to stripping our land of such abundant resources without properly factored concern will have similarly devestating results and consequences as you so painstakingly illustrated.
      Yes there is a place for mining. I have not once said there isn’t.
      Yes there is a place for farming. Hell - if we were all socialists - Australia can produce more than enough to self-suffice. Australia does not need to import. But we now live in a globalised world.
      Doing things ‘properly’ is the key. Raping and pillaging our land for the (short-sighted) wealth that it provides is not the way to do things. Ruining natural acquifiers which is what makes the land we live in so great (if you’re not a coastal dweller) is not the way to do things.
      Yes farmers have got it wrong in the past. But if you knew how to research properly - you would find that farming in Australia - especially in the last 20 years is done so with far greater concern for the environment and they deserve a hell of a lot of credit for the advances made in agriculture.
      The quality of food we enjoy here in Australia is due to our farming practices. Why do you think there is such an uproar when severely inferior imported products hit the shelves. Why is there a quickly growing trend towards farmers markets and self-cultivated produce? Seriously. No more farming? Kill the back upon which this great country was built why don’t you.
      @RonnyJonny
      ‘These places’ as you so eloquently put it, when nurtured by the right people are all what this country stands for. Mateship, helping one another out, community spirit, doing something just because as opposed to because there is a benefit in it for oneself. It is all well and good to FIFO and enjoy the trappings of grossly inflated wages that come with such monies, but are you giving anything back to the community that is there, supporting you? The community, the area, the region that due to its geographic location, allows you to enjoy such an inflated wage? That allows you to enjoy such a wonderful lifestyle? I’m just hazarding a guess though Ronny that you really don’t give two hoots…

    • ronny jonny says:

      04:02pm | 07/11/11

      Good guess, I really don’t.  All those wonderful things you can get in your country town, I can get in my beachside suburb. The “inflated wage” which I think is the at the root of all the anti-FIFO moaning is the same whether I work half an hour from home or the other side of the world. It is danger money, compensation for being away from my loved ones and suitable remuneration for my quite rare skill. If you think any fool can walk into the industry and waltz off with a fat pay packet you are sorely mistaken.

    • Brains vs Brawn says:

      04:52pm | 07/11/11

      @Ronny. Ok - so you’re an educated fool who deserves the monies he earns becuase of the nature of the work you undertake. Whatever that ‘rare’ skill may be. I am sure those who put their lives on the line DAILY (police, paramedics etc etc) would love to be remunerated similarly to the way you are. But this is not about equality is it?
      A fool because you deliberately mistake a shot at the inflated wages mining consortiums are able to offer - when the real issue is the abuse of communities that would love to have even half of the FIFO populous to hang around and give something back - and watch the community prosper. Oh yes, and a fool when you think that not just anyone can walk into the industry… An unexperience 18y.o? Earning $50/hr for labouring? A 16y.o. ‘apprentice’ mechanic on $45-60k/yr? Please!
      So congratulations - you’ve done the work to earn the money you do. But as for having done the work to earn the right to be beligerent and arrogant towards the community and region that is giving you the opportunity to employ those skills - you haven’t earnt that. Have a look back to whence your family came, and how you got to be where you are… There is no shame in being thankful.

    • chuck says:

      03:50pm | 07/11/11

      I wonder how many farmers in the deep Nth have LPG/CG car fuel conversions?

    • Chris says:

      03:55pm | 07/11/11

      From http://gladstonefoundation.org.au/ :
      “The Gladstone Foundation was developed to guide and manage significant financial contributions from industry proponents, to support social infrastructure facilities and services within the Gladstone region.”

      It appears to be wrong to say that the communities are getting nothing from CSG.

    • Utopia Boy says:

      03:59pm | 07/11/11

      Is anyone aware how Coal Seam Gas is extracted? Millions of litres of steaming water, combined with highly toxic chemicals is punched under pressure into a hole and it pushes the gas up. A small side effect is the gas doesn’t all go where it should. A lot of it, including the chemicals, makes it’s way into the local drinking water. It kills people.
      Why does Roma have 35 flights a week? Fly in fly out miners. Not much permanence there.
      I am absolutely no hippy left wing Bob Brown botherer, but Coal Seam gas is extremely volatile and environmentally unfriendly. The waste from the process (again, millions of litres of water and chemicals) is left in dam type set ups to “evaporate” into the atmosphere - the atmosphere we breathe.
      It’s called fracking:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_fracturing

      It’s a disgrace and should not be entertained.

    • bananabender says:

      09:12pm | 07/11/11

      Every comment you have made is wrong.

      They don’t use fracking for Australian CSG.
      There are no toxic chemical used in fracking - only water, clay/sand and a food grade additive.

      In CSG extraction the water is pumped OUT of the coal seams to extract the gas.

      Gasland is a work of fiction.

    • Col Sanders says:

      10:23am | 08/11/11

      (There are no toxic chemical used in fracking, Gasland is a work of fiction..tell that to the people in Pennsylvania.) The Hydraulic fracturing bore hole process using a pressurized fluid not necessarily water or non-contaminated water (read grey water or hydrocarbon polluted) has been used in the U.S. since the 40’s.. Hydraulic fractures form and are held open by a sand proppant in order to release petroleum, natural gas, coal seam gas, or other substances for extraction. The composition of injected fluid is changed during the operation of a well over time,  initially acid is used to increase permeability, then proppants are used with a gradual increase in their size or density with binding gels and flow agents. Although everything from paint to detergent has been used in the past,  the composition of additive chemicals used in today’s wells are protected in the U.S. as an industrial secret or propriety information.

    • Fiat Lux says:

      04:04pm | 07/11/11

      Water can get out of the Great Artesian Basin , but not in , as this is a high pressures system . This was an axiom until CSG came in and injected water and carcingenic chemicals under much higher pressures into the basin . Sow the wind , reap the whirlwind .

    • bananabender says:

      09:16pm | 07/11/11

      CSG doesn’t even use fracking.

    • Your name:We dont want CSG! says:

      06:14pm | 12/11/11

      Your comment: BananaBender - They most certainly do frack in Australia to extract CSG so get your facts straight. We are farmers dealing with 3 resource companies at the moment and we are very concerned about the impacts that fracking will have on our aquifers. Also - they are exploring for shale gas in Gasland (sorry QLD) now. This will be an environmental disaster but as long as all the workers have raped our beautiful country and run away from local communities like Roma no one will really be around to give a shit!- you will all be on the coast enjoying the profits of our pain.

    • Paddy says:

      05:28pm | 07/11/11

      The two basic issues are:
      Prior to fracking you drill into the earth and coal seam.
      The drilling liquid uses BTEX which contains two known and identified carcinogens. Is it not illegal to pump carcinogens into the earth?
      The coal seam usually sits in the vicinity of a water table and there is no evidence to say the drilling liquid can be precluded from entering the water table and polluting it.

      My view is let the companies drill and if it pollutes the water table and it is not possible to ” unpollute”  the water table then the directors and senior management (as with OHS in NSW) become subject to mandatory gaol terms and the politicians of the day who approve the inadequate legislation to stop such pollution lose their superannuation and are subject to mandatory gaol terms. All lobbyists who push the agenda for the company that pollutes the water table would be subject to mandatory gaol terms as accessories.
      Origin currently employs over 20 ex ALP staffers and ex ALP ministers. If the proposition is so compelling why is there a need to emply so many? It is because it is not compelling and it may not be in the best interests of Australians.

    • bananabender says:

      06:35pm | 07/11/11

      Fracking isn’t used in CSG production.  It is used in shale gas which is a totally different technology.

    • bananbender says:

      06:10pm | 07/11/11

      One of my mates spent many years as a geologist in western and Central Queensland.  He has told me that most of the cockies were as dumb as dog shit and absolutely impossible to negotiate with. They wouldn’t sell their properties for far more than market value despite having the arse out of their pants. One even refused the offer to have a free dam worth hundreds of thousands of dollars built on his property.

    • JT says:

      09:23pm | 07/11/11

      So because the farmer didn’t sell means he is a fool and if he or she does they are probably greedy.And by the way Fracking is used in CSG production.

    • Ted says:

      07:51pm | 07/11/11

      Paddy, 2 mistakes in your basic assumptions,  drilling is not done with BTEX chemicals, it is done with water, clay and polymers, the same ones used in food.  Next coal is everywhere underground, not always near water, most times it is not, it is always sealed from from aquifer formations by harder and impermeable layers, note that word, impermeable, (Look it up) Joining CSG and water contamination (the big lie that Anti-CSG lives on),is the same as WMD and Iraq, nothing to do with each other . 
      Fracturing of formations is not the normal practice for CSG in Australia either, cavitation is.
      Want to know how safe drilling is to water supply? The Great Artesian Basin has several thousand oil and gas wells drilled into it, the same way as CSG is drilled for, and they have used hydraulic fracturing in those wells for a century now, that is 100 years without contamination.
      The only difference is that coal seams are all over the place and Mr & Mrs NIMBY are now being affected.
      Want to stop CSG?, don’t use anything from the petroleum industry, its that simple, see how long you last.
      Duty of Disclosure, worked on Oil and Gas drilling, have done CSG work in Roma area (Surat Basin) as well as worked overseas on Zero Emission Drill sites.  Watch Gaslands if you want fiction or research Barrow Island to see how conservation and petroleum production can work together in Australia.

    • CJS says:

      08:34pm | 07/11/11

      No More Farming says:

      02:33pm | 07/11/11Glad to see someone here has the brains that most and our politicians don’t have. The country is being held to ransom for the sake of keeping the name alive. Why is it allowed that so few people can own so much property to waste our resources that could be put to better use in our economy. The farmers don’t own the air above their land and don’t own the resources below so they should have no say in the exploration of gas, oil and minerals. It is part of all Australians Heritage and Wealth.

    • Keith says:

      09:06pm | 07/11/11

      Maybe he values something greater than the cash. That which money can never buy. or replace

    • bananabender says:

      09:18pm | 07/11/11

      If you do some investigation you will find that most of the anti-CSG/shale gas rhetoric is being created by the conventional oil and gas industry. They are having their profit margins reduced by cheap unconventional gas.

    • Annie says:

      11:09pm | 13/11/11

      @bananabender
      Have you been bending a few too many bananas?  How does that even make any sense?  Do you have any links or information to support this statement?
      Perhaps you need to do some investigation.They are mostly the same companies, they have conventional and ‘unconventional’ gas. Santos, Shell, Billiton, British Petroleum, Halliburton, PetroChina…the list goes on.  There are over 105 companies in Australia, 83% of them are foreign owned.  It is not ‘clean’, we do not need it, 90% of onshore gas in Australia is exported, mainly to China, are foreign owned. 
      Cheap gas, right, do you watch the business report?  Gas is going to go up, already has
      It is not ‘rhetoric’, there are real people, with real problems and concerns with CSG and shale, which are finite fossil fuels.

    • Chris says:

      10:08pm | 07/11/11

      When all the mining is done, as it most assuredly will be—coal seam gas, gold, copper, coal, whatever—it will all be gone. Wait for another 60 million years for more fossil fuels. I won’t live to see the end of this, and neither will my daughter or any grandkids I may or may not have, but someone will. Someone who can trace their line back through the generations to me and my money-driven, ideologically-driven, short-term-politically-driven, cheap-Chinese-goods-driven contemporaries.
      That means you.
      We have to do more than dig up stuff and send it overseas.

    • Richard D. says:

      11:09pm | 07/11/11

      Sounds good for Roma Malcolm, but one day, the workers will be gone and what do we have left? Based on the American experience, it will be a wasteland. Then, Malcolm, what happens to the towns like Roma? Yep, they will be stuffed. The real story is in the environmental disaster waiting to happen. By this time, the likes of Anna Blight and Wonderboy Fraser will sinbinned to the crapheap of failed politicians, but we will be stuck with the consequences.

    • Tom Green says:

      06:51am | 08/11/11

      But where is the scientific evidence coal seam is safe?

    • Sherlock says:

      07:48am | 08/11/11

      Right next to ‘Carbon Causes Global Warming’.

    • Beryce Nelson says:

      09:55am | 08/11/11

      If we Aussies keep thinking that digging holes in the ground to find raw materials for other countries to process is a substitute for building a productive nation for ourselves then in about 25 years we awill be just another failed Pacific Island nation like Nauru and Vanuatu. Quite apart from the philosophy, the Halliburton patented “fracking” technology being touted as safe to use is apparently anything but, and requires massive amounts of water and chemicals to make it work at all. Most of all, CSG is not safe to extract, transport and distribute - it is NOT natural gas or LNG - it is methane, volatile and unpredictable in many environments. We are mad to allow this CSG mining explosion (no pun intended) to proceed any further without an independant scientific review of its safety and value to the nation. Also, the linked decision to allow building of the CSG processing plants in Gladstone Harbour was an act of political naivety and the Federal Government should step in and stop it immediately. after all, they have the Fraser Island and the Franklin Dam issues as precedents!

    • Ted says:

      10:38am | 08/11/11

      Here is the perfect example of hysteria over substance, CSG is not a big hole in the ground, the footprint is the same as a water bore. Formation fracturing is not a patented process, nor is it always done with chemicals but it is also irrelevant, cavitation is used in Australia for CSG.  CSG is natural gas, this one had me on the floor in stitches, seriously look at what natural gases are. CSG is not mined, it is extracted like water from a bore, the gas leaves but the coal remains. It has been scientifically proved as safe in Australia but the Anti-CSG hysterics don’t want to acknowledge it.  Finally the understanding of Gladstone’s LNG plant is as strong as the knowledge of CSG.

    • milo of Brizvegas says:

      02:33pm | 08/11/11

      Well Ted the big problem as I see it is the big mystery that surrounds CSG. It is totally harmless, no grey water or recycled water polluted with hydrocarbons is used only pure water with a food grade additive (hopefully not something like Crosslinked sodium carboxy methyl cellulose) But ya see Ted it is a bit like Gladstone Harbour, we are told it is totally safe and the fish are totally safe to eat but my son works in Gladstone, ate sushi the other night and rang to say he was really sick. First thing the Doctor said was; tell me you didn’t eat fish.

    • IMPACTED by CSG! says:

      02:57pm | 12/11/11

      I am from Tara, and no i dont grow crops!
      I live in the gas fields in the residential estates between
      Tara and Chinchilla.

      Someone PLEASE tell me, and the many others who have to live in the gas fields, surrounded by leaking
      and flaring gas wells, compressor stations and CSG processing plants, just how this industry is going benefit us?
      And please dont insult me and claim the gas wells dont leak, because i have a copy of the report that says they do!

      Since CSG has come to our residential estate, not only have we become sleep deprived because of the constant drilling and noise from CSG infrastructure, but my family has been impacted along with many residents in our estate,
      varying in age, including children, and they are all experiencing similar symptoms.

      Symptoms include: severe headaches, gushing nosebleeds, bleeding from ears, nausea,cough that wont go away, skin rashes, itchy watery eyes, dizziness, one family even passing out.  (i am talking about even 4 year olds severe headaches,and even kids as young as 2 with gushing nosebleeds.)

      These residents have ALL experienced a dirty, rotten egg/sulphur type
      smell in the air, and a metallic taste in their mouths. Our area has also become rather hazey.

      All these symptoms appear to be consistent with others who live in and
      around gas fields both here in Australia and in the United States.
      Our property value has decreased, so you can’t even sell up and move out of
      the gas field.

      The only people who WANT CSG are the ones who are financially dependant upon it.

      Brett Smith, senior vice president of QGC/BG, stated that
      with a project of this size, there will be some ‘Collateral Damage’

      Even our Government recognises that we are being impacted and yet they
      allow this industry into residential areas!

      If this industry is so safe, why havent the CSG companies and the Government approved our request for air monitoring? What do they have to hide?
      Why wont the health minister respond to my requests to have the local doctors monitor this area for symptoms consistant with those in other gasfields?
      If this industry is so safe, why the rush? Why not take the time and prove to everyone how safe it is?

 

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