AIN’T rape a hoot?

It seems like the good old boys at Carlton Football Club just can’t stop laughing about former president John Elliott’s claim that at least four women were paid not to pursue rape allegations against players in the 80s and 90s.

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``We just sort of said, `Righto, here’s five grand, off you go’ and they’d leave,’’ Elliott told a charity event in Hobart last week. ``There’s some very ordinary people out there.’‘

Onya, Johnno.

I bet they can’t wait to get you back next year.

And Anthony Koutoufides, who was caught on camera laughing at Elliott’s stand-up routine, egging the old drongo on.

Onya, Kouta.

And current star Brendan Fevola, whose considered reply embodied everything that’s endearing about the modern footballer.

``It’s nothing to do with us, we’re just worried about Friday night.’‘

Onya, Fev.

Given all this rib-digging, ``turn it up champion’’ hilarity, Elliott must have got the shock of his life when Victorian police landed on the doorstep of his city office yesterday.

It would not have dawned on him that he might have to answer to a higher authority than the footy code of honour.

The temptation for fans is to shrug the Carlton affair off as another anonymous claim versus counter-claim, but the facts of this case are at least as damning as the group sex scandal that ruined Matthew Johns’ career and drew tut-tutting from the more ``civilised’’ codes.

Elliott’s spray against trouble-making rape victims had the effect of drawing out the woman known as ``Kate,’’ who claims she was assaulted at a party three days after Carlton’s grand final loss to North Melbourne in 1999.

The Herald Sun reported this week that at least three high-profile Carlton players were believed to have been present at the time of the alleged rape in Melbourne’s northern suburbs.

``Kate’’ said she agreed to have sex with one player but later woke up to find another raping her.

This woman doesn’t want money - she wants justice. And this is the kind of integrity that terrifies Shiraz-stained big-noters like Elliott and the ostriches running the AFL.

``Of the four or five’’ - who’s counting, right Johnno? - ``there was one that we were worried about, there were others we knew were not true or we were told by the players they weren’t true,’’ Elliott said.

Well, ``Kate’’ believes she’s the one that Carlton should be worried about.

No charges were laid the first time around because, as Victorian police chief commissioner Simon Overland explained, the investigation was bungled.

So here we have a woman who has endured a decade of depression since being raped and the state’s chief cop admitting that it might have gone further had the police done their job.

Still laughing, Mr Elliott? What about you, Kouta?

Returning to the Johns case (and you won’t get any argument from me about his punishment), he and any other player that could be placed in that Christchurch hotel room in 2002 were publicly flayed within days of the Four Corners program.

They deserved it, but exactly how do the circumstances differ from what happened to that woman three years earlier?

Where are the Carlton players who ``Kate’’ says raped her? Who’s trying to flush them out?

AFL chief Andrew Demetriou says it’s now a police matter, but isn’t it conceivable that players involved back then might be donning the colours of Carlton or another team this weekend?

And what are the full details of the ``bungled’’ police investigation, which sounds less like a procedural breakdown than a full-scale cover-up?

These are fair questions and they would certainly be asked in rugby league but not, it seems, of the AFL.

This is the game that has spent years marketing itself on everything the rugby codes are not.

Clean, skilfull, non-violent, female-friendly. AusKick, quaint team songs and kick-to-kick after the final siren.

It’s all an illusion created by Melbourne marketing spivs who have duped AFL fans into believing that if they don’t see drunken scandal in the papers or on TV, it doesn’t happen.

The reality is there have been incidents off the Sherrin every bit as scandalous as in the NRL.

Hands up all those AFL fans who want to talk about the $200,000 payment given to a woman by three players over an alleged sexual assault in 2000.

Or the $15,000 settlement given to a woman who claimed to have been sexually harassed by former North Melbourne players Anthony Rock and Wayne Carey in 1995.

Anyone? Didn’t think so.

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    • Barbara Flowers says:

      07:36am | 26/06/09

      John Elliott reminds us all of how vigilant women really need to be.  It’s not much of a journey between “uncovered meat”  and “here’s five grand, off you go.”  There was a delightful ambiguity in his observation about the ordinariness of ‘people’.  Surely this was an unexpected moment of self-reflection, or was it an assessment of his fellow ‘blokes’.  Very ordinary fellows indeed.

    • BenP says:

      07:45am | 26/06/09

      “AFL chief Andrew Demetriou says it’s now a police matter, but isn’t it conceivable that players involved back then might be donning the colours of Carlton or another team this weekend?”

      It’s conceivable, but there would be very few, I imagine You could pretty easily find out how many Carlton players of 1999 are still playing in the AFL.

    • BenP says:

      07:47am | 26/06/09

      I did just check the actual Carlton team from the 1999 grand final - none of those players are still in the AFL, although obviously the club encompasses more players than those actually in the top team.

    • Rodgers says:

      09:12am | 26/06/09

      And this is the illustrious leader of one of the teams ?? Are we therefore that surprised that the AFL is in such a state ? Shame on you Elliott ,what sort of an example are you ?

    • Catharine Lumby says:

      09:33am | 26/06/09

      Well said Luke. It’s my sense that there’s been a history of paying women so-called hush money right across Australian sport for many decades. I’m not suggesting it’s routine but wherever and whenever it’s happened it’s an absolute disgrace and as appalling as Elliot’s casual attitude to the revelation. I think he’s done us all a favour by making it public.

    • Allende says:

      09:41am | 26/06/09

      The AFL’s silence on this matter is both extraordinary and shameful.

    • Craig Mc says:

      10:19am | 26/06/09

      “Where are the Carlton players who ``Kate’’ says raped her?”

      You’ll want to correct that.  She states that she had consensual sex with one player.  Afterwards ONE other player raped her.  There is only ONE alleged offender.

    • Sue says:

      11:39am | 26/06/09

      Actually Craig if the man she had consensual sex with then allowed his mate in to have sex with her as well he is just as guilty of that rape incident in the eyes of the law.  Just like if you and I robbed a bank, but I only drove the car - we are both guilty of robbing the bank.

    • Pat Smith says:

      12:08pm | 26/06/09

      “Allende says:

      The AFL’s silence on this matter is both extraordinary and shameful. “

      I hear you Allende, AFL journos have to be the most cow-tailed, spineless sycophants in the history of journalism. Are they scared to take on the AFL? Or is it that they are contractually obliged to support the code as revealed in the C7 court case? How does that differ from the cash for comment controversy of a few years ago?

    • Craig Mc says:

      12:16pm | 26/06/09

      Sue, but she hasn’t alleged that in any of her statements, and neither has any witness, nor police.

    • P-Chap says:

      12:45pm | 26/06/09

      AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou 25/6 re John Elliot’s comments then the AFL’s position re sexual assault:

      “I find his comments abhorrent ... They are from an age that I don’t understand, they are from an age that is a bygone area ... We’ve done everything we can, and will continue to do everything we can, to rid the industry of those sort of neanderthal attitudes ... He has no voice, no influence in any regard to what we do here at the AFL ... He doesn’t speak for the Carlton Football Club of today and everyone should be absolutely appalled at his comments ... Everyone knows my position, I’ve been very clear on this from day one ... If you go back to 2004, the AFL and myself came out very strongly and urged all women who had any issue to come forward, and we would refer them to the appropriate authority ... That’s how seriously we view these issues ... We’ve got the respect and responbility program in place, a program that’s one awards ... It’s a program that’s been worked up with the Victorian Police, the University of Melbourne and a statewide committee to make sure we educate all people in this industry about attitudes towards women - how sexual abuse and sexual violence against women is totally unacceptable ... There’s absolutelty no place for it in football, let alone the community.”

      So, Allende, what do you mean by “the AFL’s silence on this matter is both extraordinary and shameful “? Were the statements above not clear enough? What more would you have wanted him to say?

    • Craig L says:

      12:53pm | 26/06/09

      Pat Smith…..they get good competition in that department from Rugby UNION media. Their ‘old boys’ protection policies would beat anyone’s, but they do love sticking it to Rugby League. Their hypocrisy appears limitless.

      Great article Luke, it’s been long overdue recognition that for every horrid offence committed by a League player, there’s an AFL incident to match if, if not more so.  Not condoning some League players poor behaviour at times, but the “looking-down-the-nose” at League fans by Swans fans in Sydney after the Stewart and Johns stories this year was pathetically hypocritical.  They appear oblivious to the activities of AFL players over the years, some of which are closer to home than they would care to remember.

    • Craig L says:

      01:06pm | 26/06/09

      P-Chap,

      perhaps refer to the transcript of the ABC’s Four Corners program “Fair Game?” aired 3 May 2004, to see how much Demetriou cares about women coming forward. It’s readily available via a simple web search.

      It would appear from his comments that the protection of the AFL players identities and reputations were certainly a concern for him.

    • R says:

      02:06pm | 26/06/09

      Why, if you believe you have been raped, do you approach an alleged assailant’s employer?

      If someone came to me alleging one of my employees had raped them I would just dial the Police and pass the phone over.

    • Craig Mc says:

      02:56pm | 26/06/09

      R: that’s the kind of stone-age, misogynist common sense that has no place in today’s society.

    • Paul says:

      03:19pm | 26/06/09

      Is anyone questioning whether this “Kate” chick is actually who she is?  Has anyone actually confirmed she was there?

    • James F says:

      03:36pm | 26/06/09

      “And this is the illustrious leader of one of the teams?”

      Um, no its not ... these are the statements of a former Club President who was sacked in 2002 after breaching salary cap rules.

    • B says:

      03:40pm | 26/06/09

      Kouta is a humble Souvlaki Hut Franchisee, and he was not egging idiot Elliott on, if you watch it you can see that. I still don’t get how Elliott was let in to Pratt’s memorial and is allowed any presence at Carlton after he sent us into over ten years of turmoil. He should have been cut off a long time ago

    • jg_rat says:

      04:23pm | 26/06/09

      Surprised at the air of surprise that Elliott would say such a thing. Gosh.

    • FJ says:

      02:46pm | 27/06/09

      Excellent article although from the scant media coverage you’d never know that AFL players get in strife. The Sydney media never report any of these things yet TV channels like Ten always mention AFL in their sport.
      I’d love to know if there are still deals in place with the AFL and media as the C7 case revealed.

 

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