Well, it’s the morning after the night before! What’s your assessment of the Budget? Too tough? Not tough enough? Who missed out?

Cartoon: Peter Nicholson

Weeks of drip-fed leaks failed to elicit much excitement about this budget, as Australia collectively rolled its eyeballs at the now-traditional claims that this was going to be the toughest of tough budgets. The general consensus seems to be that it could have gone further, pushed through some serious reforms, and Australia would’ve had some respect for it - instead of just pitying the poor thing.

Anyhoo, for all the latest news, head to news.com.au, where there’ll be graphs and experts and analysis and blogs, the budget speech video, and all sorts of goodness.

09:45am Watching other people make the Budget interesting is one fun way to survive all the coverage. Here, you can watch Herald Sun cartoonist, Mark Knight create the cartoon he ran on today’s front page.

Something less fun, albeit quite helpful would be to try the income tax calculator, care of The Australian. Just type your annual income into one box and see how much tax you can expect to pay this year.

06:00amThe Government is sure to be keen to see what we thought of their performance. Middle class welfare has taken a hiding, as have the unemployed and uni students. Wayne Swan himself said he’d “imposed the strictest of spending limits” in this Budget. But has he?

To see what it means for you, check out this interactive tool created by Jane Lee at News.com.au.

10.05 pm
In a huge shock, the Business Council of Australia welcomed the crackdown on welfare recipients. And that’s all from us for tonight, see you in the morning.

10.04 pm
This’ll go down a treat - apparently there’s a massive blowout in the cost of managing boat people - it’ll increase by more than 400 per cent to more than $1 billion next year, AAP reports. 

The Punch went for a post-Budget drink here, sorry for the gap.

9.13 pm
Australian Industry Group chief executive Heather Ridout welcomes investment in skills and training, says there’s genuine reform - she’s also happy with skilled migration moves, but says more would be welcome. AWU national secretary Paul Howes says he’s fairly enthused at return to vocational education and says budget measures will help solve skills shortage.

9.05 pm
Oxfam’s applauded an increase in foreign aid of almost half a billion dollars.

9.03 pm
Crikey’s Bernard Keane says: “Wayne Swan has promised The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and delivered Twilight, with a suite of modest spending cuts over the remainder of this financial year and then the four years over the forward estimates”. Nicely put.

9.01 pm
Here’s the ‘path to surplus’, thanks to news.com.au:

Wow, look at that. Wow.

8:58 pm
The Public Health Association of Australia says the winners are: mental health, regional health, dental health and immunisation services. The losers are: aged care, pathology and hearing services.

8.52 pm
Skeptics ahoy! Peter van Onselen says he reckons claims of a surplus by 2012-13 are a crock.

8.48 pm
Everyone’s seems over the moon about the mental health spending. Australian Social Inclusion Board spokesman Monsignor David Cappo says it’s a “breakthrough”. Even GetUp are happy - now there’s a first.

8.45 pm
Over at The Oz, Dennis Shanahan is calling it a surplus by “thousands of tiny cuts”.

8.35 pm
Our very own Mal Farr says the $3.5 billion is like a surplus, only smaller.

8.30 pm
“Tough love” welfare to work measures will be counterproductive, the Australian Council of Social Service says.

8.28 pm
Greens Leader Bob Brown criticised the lack of environmental initiatives, with cuts to solar energy rebates and no new funding for public transport.

8:20 pm
The Mental Health Council of Australia is pretty happy with the $1.5 billion boost to mental health services.

8:15 pm
Opposition Treasury spokesman Joe Hockey says the budget’s “full of pain” and doesn’t reflect reality. “The absence of the carbon tax means the government’s claim to deliver a surplus in 2012/13 can’t be taken seriously,” he says.

7:56 pm
Catholic Health Australia’s worried about a new tax on charities - although it’s only on their commercial enterprises. Meanwhile, the Cancer Council’s chuffed that bowel cancer screening will be funded, but they want it sooner than 2015.

7:46 pm
The AMA’s not happy - Federal President Dr Andrew Pesce says changes to patient rebates’ll make it more expensive to see the family doctor.

7:40 pm
There’s a quick budget-at-a-glance right here, so you can wrap your noggins around the basics.

7:32 pm
Swanny’s up, full of charisma and exitement as always, and we’re away!

1:00pm
Right now there’s this weird ritual happening inside Parliament House. Hundreds of journalists – although maybe fewer each year – have surrendered their mobile phones and attachments to the outside world, picked up kilos of budgetary paraphernalia, and found their cramped little desk to begin the lock up process.

There are banks of intensely serious looking folks from The Australian and the Fin Review, and Fairfax, then the slightly shabbier and smaller banks of the tabloids.

Keen young things are desperately flicking through the budget papers hoping to spot that one elusive ‘savings measure’ that everyone else misses, or the Holy Grail, the budgetary black hole.

The corridors are lined with platters of food, which looks appetising when it’s first wheeled out but positively dangerous after a few hours and many murky fingers have devastated the neat ranks of sandwiches. Bad coffee. Soft drinks. Stress. The occasional murmur as the Treasurer wanders through ensconced in cameras.

The big rooms start to feel full of stale farts and sweaty armpits as the end of the lock up approaches, and Treasurer Wayne Swan will prepare to give his speech to Parliament.

Then the journos will all flood out, to quickly check the internet and the wires and make sure they missed nothing… a few beers will be passed around, just a warm up for the night of endless drinking ahead…

7:35am The morning papers claim today’s budget will see people with disabilities getting a fairer go (cue this week’s Angry Cripple column) while the unemployed will be hit hardest. News.com.au reports that “long-term unemployed people, who have been on the dole for two years or more, to do more for their welfare cheques.”

The Greens have slammed key budget measures, according to The Australian. They’ve already questioned the urgency of a return to budget surplus and want miners to foot the bill for Labor’s health, eduction and welfare spending.

6:00am To kick things off, here’s the highlights of the ‘known knowns’ so far:

$292 million for the Malaysia Australia Refugee Solution, no details on carbon tax, almost $3 billion for flood recovery, corporate tax cuts funded through the mining tax, changes to tax treatment of salary-sacrificed cars, a whole bunch of savings adding up to around $20 billion, a boost to skilled migrants, a couple of billion for mental health, a $12 billion deal with the pathology industry, changes to private health insurance rebate, a crackdown on welfare recipients, extra money for students with disabilities, the famous set-top box giveaway, performance-based bonuses for teachers, tax breaks for retirees, education for teen mums, a radical plan to make charities pay tax on income with no charitable purpose.

Got all that? And now, on with the show…

62 comments

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    • Super D says:

      05:46am | 10/05/11

      As you rightly point out the budget lockup is an absolute joke.  I can’t for the life of me understand why journalists who take themselves at all seriously would lower themselves to participate.  The sight of no journalists attending the budget lockup may give the government reason to reconsider their spin strategies.

      Its not as if anything in the budget is so pressing that it needs to be in Wednesdays papers.  I would argue that it will probably take a weeks work to figure out exactly how badly the government is fudging the numbers.

    • duk dog says:

      09:13am | 11/05/11

      A joke , Super D ?

      Just think man , the come down for poor Swanny , for a union man to the Treasurer of Australia .

      Oh the pain , poor Swanny , the sacrifice .

    • Rick says:

      02:12pm | 11/05/11

      Budget….....yaaaaawn….........only the bean counters get exited…..

    • Septimus says:

      05:18pm | 11/05/11

      ..and the beans I guess?

    • Against the Man says:

      06:51am | 10/05/11

      If the government doesn’t spend on people they will get hammered, if they spend and don’t deliver a surplus next year they are so screwed. They can’t win and Julia and Swan won’t care by then for they will qualify for a hefty pension and the future of Australia is the least of their concerns. The real issues: Tim needs a new frying pan and Swan needs a new surf board….............

    • TChong says:

      07:55am | 10/05/11

      And you need a new routine, AtM, but you dont hear anyone complaining too much.

    • Flexo says:

      01:02pm | 10/05/11

      TChong you need to wake up! EVERYONE is complaining!

      Have you been in a cave with Osama or something? smile

    • Against the Man says:

      02:31pm | 10/05/11

      TChong, the last time I asked you a simple challenge - Tell me why Gillard and her government are doing a good job and give credible examples. I did not get a response.

      You have as much credibility/reliability as Julia Gillard at Kevin Rudd’s Christmas Dinner!

      I figure you are likely getting paid by the ALP or sharing in the $370 per pensioner profit. Sorry buddy boy, the government has lost all credibility and so have you.

      But don’t stop posting comments, we all enjoy laughing at you and your cronies smile

    • simon says:

      10:29am | 11/05/11

      Tchong, this is the worst budget i have ever seen. Linking further spending to the mining boom is a huge mistake, what happens when China’s thirst for our resources drops, then we have another huge deficit. Also, any budget that takes more money out of the economy through stealthy eligibility cuts only places more pressure on the retail sector and small business. You obviously have no understanding of economics, just like Gillard and Swan!!!

    • buckyboy says:

      07:10pm | 11/05/11

      Bawaaaaaaaaah…....Hey Chongy, it’s now 7 PM, do you want to repost you 7.55am post?

    • Flexo says:

      08:21am | 10/05/11

      It isn’t about what is or isn’t in the budget spending. It isn’t about the future surplus which I don’t belive the ALP will deliver anyway. It is about the tremendous waste of money that has led to this.

    • Adam says:

      08:33am | 10/05/11

      The biggest problem between for this Govt is the gaping chasm between what they promise to do and what they deliver.

    • JACK says:

      08:36am | 10/05/11

      typical of this paper, all the journs coming out of the woodwork, (with the slogan we know better) not one of you could mange your own budget let alone the goverments, the old saying, its easy to sit back and criticise which we all get sick of hearing.
      We live in the best country in the world and all evertbody does is winge

    • David C says:

      11:01am | 10/05/11

      probable because we all realise ti could be a lot better

    • JohnB says:

      08:40am | 11/05/11

      “We live in the best country in the world and all evertbody does is winge”

      I think Jack, that’s because we can see an incompetent government that is rapidly changing that by having no plan, no foresight or vision. No saving while we’re making hay….They make mistake after mistake, waste immense amounts of money….All this is predicted by some of the very bright contributors to this column….I guess that screams that the wrong people are in politics. It’s such a grubby place…

      Sometimes Jack, and particularly with politics, I don’t think it’s healthy for a society to be positive. We should demand much, much more from our elected leaders. Imagine what they’d do to us if we stopped complaining and whinging.

      As a result of the electorates apathy we will not be the country we love very soon.

    • Tubesteak says:

      08:50am | 10/05/11

      The budget will be nothing but bogan-baiting. We’ve already seen the usual cash handouts for “battlers” and “working families” and pork-barrelling for pensioners with set-top boxes.

      It’s sickening.

      All their decent announcements and reforms have already occured eg discussion paper on CIVs, MIT reform, trust taxation legislation review etc

    • buckyboy says:

      07:24pm | 11/05/11

      The Bogan-baiting bar is set at a $900 bribe…..until that bar is raised, ‘feeding the chooks’ is a futile political vote winning exercise.

    • Paul Sunshine says:

      08:53am | 10/05/11

      If Swanny were to ask I would say bugger the $308 million on set-top box installation (why is in in the national interest to ensure Aunt Ethel can watch re-runs of The Sullivans?) and that would enable him to leave the private health rebate in place. If yhe doesn’t, I will no longer be able to afford private health insurance. Which is more important in my view than additional tv channels.

    • Jasperjen says:

      12:45pm | 10/05/11

      If Aunt Ethel and Granny are not to be afforded a few million to supply a set top box to watch re runs of the Sullivans, (as yet no one has mentioned the cost of installing these boxes as I am sure Aunty wont have and may still also need a new Digital antenna ) Why should Billions be spent on the NBN so a younger more Savvy generation can download hours and hours of modern day trash

    • Aunty may need a Digital Antenna says:

      09:01am | 11/05/11

      You forfeit your right to be taken seriously about the NBN when you mentioned a digital antenna.
      Not part of the savvy generation are you poor lambikins.

    • The Original Oz says:

      10:38am | 10/05/11

      Why is this Government wasting so much oxygen on trying to achieve a surplus by 2012/13? What is so critical about attaining this goal? There are many many deserving needs in our society but the Govt intends to not spend money on them so they can promote a surplus, whilst still pouring millions down the black hole of “border protection” and other futile Government endeavours (cue set top boxes).

      If this mob manage a surplus it will be the first, and only, election promise that they have managed to keep. Why is this promise so much more important than that other promise “There will be no Carbon Tax under a Government that I run” or that other doozy “The East Timor solution” which never was, never would and never could.

    • Vaunted says:

      11:00am | 10/05/11

      Quite right Oz, Wayne and Jools should carry on to spending up big without a care in the world. After all, they don’t have long to go before they can take off with big their pensions for life, and the way things are going the Libs will have at least the next 12 years to get government back under control again.

    • Jasperjen says:

      01:00pm | 10/05/11

      Just an ego trip to prove they can bring in a Budget that does not leave the country with the usual Labor deficit. They wont care what they do or who they hurt to achieve this. This is a Government that will never admit they are wrong or back down about any of their policies no matter what ! Sick of hearing Julia telling me all is for the good of the Nation let the people decide what is the good of the Nation. Why cant they answer questions on how policies will be implemented and there effects with their answers and not with the tired old rhetoric of what would have happened under Howards policies is it that they really dont have any policy of their own, that they know will work..

    • The Original Oz says:

      01:01pm | 10/05/11

      Vaunted - My point was actually that the profligate spending of Wayne and Jools, which won’t stop with this Budget because they are incapable of stopping, needs to be better directed than it has been in the past. It is time they addressed real problems in society rather than constantly throwing buckets of money at every hare brained “cause celebre” that pops into their minds with every brain fart either of them has.

    • Gladys says:

      10:45am | 10/05/11

      The lockup. I love that concept. Can’t get out. Can’t get in.

      Does anyone ever get a bit freaked out by it? Is it like a diet where when you know you’re not allowed to eat something you want it ten times more?

      Oh, please share. Who’s done it?

    • Hack says:

      01:55pm | 10/05/11

      I’ve worked it as a graduate. Most boring thing I’ve ever done - 8 hours sitting around watching journalists type, occasionally wandering around ot check nobody is surreptitiously typing on a phone. Getting yelled at because someone didn’t provide enough chairs. Can’t talk without being distracting so only budget papers for entertainement.  Picking up journalists’ trash at the end of the day. Highlight of the day is hiding out to catch a glimpse of Red Kerry and the only thing that makes it bearable is knowing that you can run down to the budget binge when it’s all over.

      Now budget night as a Parliamentary intern - much more exciting. Knock off at two, buy some beer from the channel 10 beer fridge, grab a few friends and settle in to your office to heckle.

    • nossy says:

      01:26pm | 10/05/11

      We love Budget Night - some nice plonk and an evening tuned to the Teev - Swannie will be in top form bringing down his 4th and setting the scene for as I have said before a glorious victory for Labor in 2013. Tonight we will see tears and cheers - just depends on which side of the fence you sit. Go hard Swannie !

    • The Original Oz says:

      02:21pm | 10/05/11

      Glorious victory for Labor in 2013 - Geeze nossy what color is the sky in your world ? The only way that Labor could get a victory in 2013 is if they were the only party standing for election. Even with the ridiculous Tones Abbott contesting the election Labor couldn’t win it (and Sky Fairy help us all if Brer Abbott ever gets into power). Joolya, Swanee and the usual mob of suspects have lied, cheated., stalled, deceived, wasted truck loads of money, introduced new taxes with more planned, increased existing taxes and have achieved absolutely nothing of value to this country. They are presiding over the sell off of the farm with Natural Resource assets being flogged off to any one who asks, farms being sold to international concerns, Australian manufacturing disappearing down the gurgler, the cost of living screaming to record highs, utilities and essential services being priced out of the reach of everyone and now they want to kick the underprivileged in the guts while they are down by cutting social security whilst paying bucket loads to import 16,000 Indian workers to work in the mines. What about training available Australian workers for these jobs (reducing the dole queues in the process)?  And as for the latest “Malaysian Solution” - kick out 800 and receive back 4000 pay Malaysia to take the 800 and pay Malaysia to give us 4000 - WTF is that all about???

      This Government is getting more perverse by the day. BTW - I have been a Labor voter for 33 years - never again.

    • nossy says:

      02:44pm | 10/05/11

      @The Original Oz - come on Ozz - you have never voted Labor and you know it - I caught out another Lib chap named “Vaunted” making those flase claims . Come on fella “fess” up !  hahahahah

    • The Original Oz says:

      03:15pm | 10/05/11

      Believe what you want nossy but I have been a Labor voter for all my adult life - Even have the piccies to prove it (worked on the Hawke election campaign in the ‘80s and have the piccies from the after party). The current mob of Labor pollies are useless, bumbling incompetents and deserve to be kicked out ASAP.

    • jf says:

      07:53pm | 10/05/11

      The Original Oz says: 03:15pm | 10/05/11

      “The current mob of Labor pollies are useless, bumbling incompetents and deserve to be kicked out ASAP.”

      Is that you former ALP Cabinet Minister (under four different Labor PMs) Lindsay Tanner?

    • Mick says:

      02:44pm | 10/05/11

      Another in the ever-increasingly absurd accounts about the life behind the new that readers don’t care about. Normal readers with normal jobs don’t care who the editor of a magazine is or whether there are rumblings in their office, they just want to know who’s shagging who and what they wore before they did it. Same goes for the budget lock-out. We just want to know who’s going to get screwed, not how the journalist was told about it.

    • Bikinis On Top says:

      03:25pm | 10/05/11

      Your comment:
      No worries, mate.The budget will be OK.
      There will be ten federal budget pages in the Daily telegraph tomorrow!

    • Bikinis On Top says:

      03:28pm | 10/05/11

      We all know that Labor always does the right thing.
      There will be a federal budget at 7.30 Pm .
      Then the political commentators to taste it and complain.

    • stephen says:

      08:27pm | 10/05/11

      Heather Ridout, fromThe Business Council of Australia has just said that she is happy, generally, about the Budget, so I reckon that, if Labor has done its sums on the detail, the Party is home-and-hose.

    • jf says:

      08:51pm | 10/05/11

      Right now Wayne Swan is rubbing her tummy with his slippered foot.

    • Max Redlands says:

      09:18pm | 10/05/11

      That’s “home and hosed”. If you can’t repeat the saying correctly it makes me wonder if you even know what you are trying to say.

      So Ridout is “generally” happy with the budget - I’ll say it was relatively benign but for mine, given that it made no mention of the impact of a carbon tax, it was next to meaningless. Either that or Labour, in their heart of hearts (such as they are) know the carbon tax is doomed.

      Ultimately, this budget doesn’t get away from the fact that this Government is a AAA disaster.

    • stephen says:

      09:35pm | 10/05/11

      This is Julia’s effort to appear Old Labor : socially conservative, but economically progressive. Nice one.
      And Heather’s not a dill, (she knows that money has to move and create wealth, and not only for the risker) and that Labor will take the excess and use it for health measures.
      Nice theory, and I’ll keep an eye.
      Now I don’t want to sound nasty, but budgets are local shopping lists, and the UN, or any other International interest group which may have an eye on our surplus - well, the money is ours - and local -  and not a nary buck should go to grubby sailors.

    • stephen says:

      09:38pm | 10/05/11

      The present participle
      is not past ; (Yours ? A trying article.)

    • james III says:

      09:01pm | 10/05/11

      Wayne Swan must be on ice and think that we are severely mentally retarded.

      Veridict:  0/10.

      Election now.

    • Louisa says:

      09:01pm | 10/05/11

      The coalition will be back in soon enough to, once again, fix the problems the L a b o r Party have, once again, created. The Labor Party are all morons

    • Rose says:

      10:04am | 11/05/11

      The Coalition under Tony Abbott are incapable of fixing anything. The only thing an Abbott led government would do is continue the damage to the Australian culture that Howard started. Under Howard Australians were encouraged to become mean spirited and xenophobic, Abbott would build on that. At the moment Australia needs a new party, one that doesn’t identify with either Liberal or Labor, one that represents real Australians and their needs. Right now Australian politics is, without doubt, a race to the bottom!!

    • simon says:

      10:31am | 11/05/11

      Rose, do you honestly believe the rubbish you write, I think you need to take your “Rose” coloured glasses off!!

    • Rose says:

      11:12am | 11/05/11

      I’m sorry if you disagree Simon, but seriously, asylum seekers, indigenous Australians, disabled and unemployed Australians, all were demonized by Howard and co in order to remain in power. Abbott is unquestionably worse, his plan to ship off under 30s who are unemployed, absolute populist crap, designed to blame systemic disadvantage on those who can least fight back. How about looking at the structural causes of disadvantage, how about looking at case management rather than blanket schemes (far cheaper and more effective than crap like mandatory income management), how about actually looking at evidence and coming up with policies that at least have a shot. Abbott plans to take us back so we’re one step away from the old workhouses. Labor is just as bad, too scared to get up and fight for Australians, sinking even lower than Abbott with the Malaysia asylum seeker plan, continuing an Intervention which is not seeing any real benefit but is instead removing the ability for indigenous Australians to improve their own conditions. There are documented, proven ways of improving conditions for indigenous people (trialled here and overseas) and we ignore them so we can tighten the thumbscrews instead.Australians are indeed becoming mean-spirited and selfish, and neither of the two parties can or will fix it, because they are the problem!

    • Bruce says:

      01:01pm | 11/05/11

      Louisa: Agree. As far back as memory takes me, loosing labor governments always leave ‘debt’ and problems for the Coalition to fix up. Then when the Coalition makes tuff decisions to bring things into order they are demonised by ‘rusted on’ labor supporters for being too tuff. Thats the way our politics work.

    • JohnB says:

      08:47am | 11/05/11

      When Liberal are re-elected there should be a law passed that anything flagged as a promise is not negotiable after the election. i.e. a broken promise, by law dissolves the government.

    • Rose says:

      10:08am | 11/05/11

      Ridiculous, there always is a need for flexibility in case things change. We just need to get better at judging the character of those we elect, that we can have faith that they actually have our interests at heart. At present, no party, not Labor, nor Coalition nor Greens can claim that, and we need to demand better, but it will mean that most of the key personnel in all parties need to change first!!

    • JohnB says:

      11:03am | 11/05/11

      “but it will mean that most of the key personnel in all parties need to change first” That’s not going to happen Rose. So what’s wrong with flagged promises being not negotiable? What changed in a few months for the carbon tax to resurface? If it was a contract, Labor would not have been able to use it as a negotiating tool with Greens and independents. Hey there’s a point, we may not be in this mess if contracts existed…

      The electorate is blindingly stupid. We need some kind of insurance. We’ll be lied to this coming election, and the next etc…They’re subtle lies, carefully worded to deceive the voters.

      Let’s have a worded contract, with no grey areas, ambiguities. There is presently the mood to have this legislation passed through parliament. When there is doubt a promise will be upheld, well let’s have it in writing minister BEFORE we vote for you! I think it would work.

    • JohnB says:

      11:08am | 11/05/11

      Rose I think you could use your hands to count members in all the governments in Australia, state, council and federal that “actually have our interests at heart”...

      This IS why we have the problems we have. Self interest in politics.

    • Yuri says:

      11:30am | 11/05/11

      That gives me an idea for a new system of government/elections. Let’s have a two election system

      Election One: Everyone votes for core promises, promises that get 80% of votes become items on a contract that must be fulfilled.

      Election Two: This becomes a tender process where the various parties apply to undertake the contract, the successful tenderer is selected via the election.

      If the party breaches the contract by not upholding a core promise (barring extenuating circumstances) they are held responsible.

    • JohnB says:

      12:38pm | 11/05/11

      Extremely interesting Yuri. I love the idea…..

      Presently our democracy isn’t working. Something has to change before irreversible damage occurs.

    • simon says:

      09:20am | 11/05/11

      All this budget has done is increase the tax revenue through adjusting eligibility and altering cut off points. It basically increases the tax burden on Australians. This incompetent government should be looking to ease cost of living pressures, but no they decide to increase the tax burden further hurting retail spending and putting pressure on jobs. The 4.5% unemployment rate projection is a joke. No bloody Idea, sack the lot and call an election. I am sick to death of this inept government!!

    • Shane says:

      09:34am | 11/05/11

      “I agree with advocates that we need to find a way to expand the program, and our government is committed to doing that as soon as we can find a breathing space to do it.”—Roxon on the National Bowel Cancer Screening Program.

      How about you trim the ridiculously exorbitant $2.2 billion allocation to mental health and fund a program that would save more lives than Australia loses to suicide in any given year? As I think was mentioned on ThePunch last week, if you want to cut the suicide rate you’d be better off funding divorce counsellors or bereavement counsellors than you would mental health “professionals.” The NBSCP should be priority #1 for health, not shutting up McGorry and his ilk.

    • JohnB says:

      11:57am | 11/05/11

      “ThePunch last week, if you want to cut the suicide rate you’d be better off funding divorce counsellors or bereavement counsellors”

      Absolutely Shane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      How did I miss that Punch, I’d have had lots to say about that…Watched many a mate on this path due to separation.

      It would be ridiculous to expect this government to get anything right, so they aint going to get this.

    • michael j says:

      11:22am | 11/05/11

      A good well balanced budget that will ensure Australia’s place as a World leader
      and proves the ALP’s right to govern,along with the Carbon Tax when introduced
      will ensure Labours future wins in the next election any many more to come,,,,,,,,,,

    • Rev says:

      12:11pm | 11/05/11

      mate did you pass out while typing that, hence the multiple commas?

    • michael j says:

      02:09pm | 11/05/11

      @Rev-,,,,////$$$???? no just like commas,,,,,,,
      and to further embarrass my-self i type with one finger,,
      don’t let the doc tell you you’ll be fine after the carpel tunnel operation,
      and don’t let them talk you into getting both hands done at once,
      fixed a small part of the problem,did SFA for the two disc in my neck pressing pressing against various nerves and a bit to close to the spinal cord for a good nights sleep,,,,,
      The kids showed me how to turn on the com-poo-ta 6 months ago,,
      and i have decided i like to finish a comment with commas ,
      hope that helps,and i do still like to pass out from drinking rum,
      but can’t afford that any-more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    • Rev says:

      04:22pm | 11/05/11

      As long as you’re having a good time michael j!

    • michael j says:

      05:44pm | 11/05/11

      @Rev-trying f n hard,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    • Valerie Woodruffe says:

      11:57am | 11/05/11

      Oh nice one, Swan says we can now work 30 hours a week but then they take some of our disability pension away, so in other words we loose out and only get PART of the pension. I am classed as long term disabled because of a brain injury which affects my short term memory, employers would’nt even give me a job if I wanted one Mr Swan

    • Rose says:

      12:25pm | 11/05/11

      Here in lies the problem with no case management. Disability doesn’t follow nice patterns, whereby a person suffering from condition A experiences the same symptoms/limitations/capabilities as every other person suffering the same condition. Someone needs to spend time focusing on what the individual’s needs are, what they are capable of doing, the adaptations to working conditions needed for them to return to work and the likelihood of employers giving them a shot. Arbitrary welfare conditions are not going to do anything else other than increase the stigma, widen the gap and further alienate them.

    • bikinis on top says:

      06:53pm | 11/05/11

      budgets and elections are like grand finals state of origin matches, the olympics and melbourne cup.
      Like the Olympics, they are all huge hype and huge tripe beforehand.
      After they are over, they are soon forgotten and assigned to the media dustbin of history.
      does anyone remember billy mc mahon’s budgets for example?

 

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