Julia Gillard today extracted herself from the sucking political quagmire of the past two months with a package of flood recovery money which appeals to the heart as well as the exchequer.

Cartoon: Chris Taylor

Gillard was bogged down in the response to the three-state inundation while just about every other public figure associated with it had their standings enhanced.

She was always seen by critics as a superfluous figure distracting from that nice Anna Bligh, or annoying flood victims with intrusions. Her clothing, hair-do and even her emotional commitment were savaged.

When a politician’s rating with the voters is collapsing, there are those keen to add even the most superficial rocks to the avalanche.

It’s now the Federal Government’s time to take the lead on the floods, and the Prime Minister did so with more confidence than might have been expected. She had to. Gillard had established herself as good as rescuing her Government and her job; now she had to show voters she could do good for them as well.

She invoked the most conservative of economic slogans when she released her flood funding package:“Pay as you go.”

It’s the antithesis of “do now, pay later,” the slogan of economists pining for the days of regular budget deficits. And of many leftists, of whom Gillard is supposed to be one.

She found some two-thirds of the money she wanted through an over-due spring cleaning of carbon reduction schemes which were more about creating the illusion of action on climate change than actually doing much.

The stalled $430 million cash-for-clunkers program, for example, was also related to helping local car makers, possibly more so than to reducing pollution levels.

Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd, who as Prime Minister pushed the creation of such programs as the Carbon Capture and Storage Flagships, and the Global Carbon Capture and Storage Institute, might not be happy.

Gillard argues essentially that these schemes were merely window dressing and were not much use without a price on carbon, which is now her uncluttered goal.

The Greens also might be less than thrilled, but the Opposition won’t be upset by the demise of these schemes.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s target is the 0.5 per cent levy on taxable incomes. He argues it is unnecessary while there are other areas of Government spending which could be cut.

However, there is a long and solid history of imposing levies for important one-off spending, many of them appearing under Coalition governments, one of them proposed by Mr Abbott.

During the election he argued for a special tax on big business over two or three years to pay for generous parental leave provisions. It will be difficult for him to argue against the effectiveness of a levy of a shorter duration for a more urgent economic and social issue.

Further, Abbott could have trouble convincing House of Representatives cross-benchers that on top of everything else the National Broadband Network has to be dumped immediately to get recovery money. 

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    • Adam Diver says:

      03:15pm | 27/01/11

      Are you a political reporter or commentator? How can a presumably educated man come up with such stupid conclusions and arguments?

      Note to all the morons in this country, because Abbott proposed a levy, and because Howard enacted a levy, does not neccessarily mean that this levy is either a good idea, a similar circumstance, or absolve the labor party from thier financial mismanagement.

    • Adam Diver says:

      03:32pm | 27/01/11

      Also Mal, the floods were a result of climate change (as you mentioned in a previous post), and the first programs cut to fund re-construction were ones addressed at climate change.

      These positions don’t add up.

      But then as Gillard points out, these programs are redundant when a carbon price is introduce (I.e tax).

      Then I am left wondering, why have these programs in the first place if they will not work most effectively? Waste money seeming rather than doing I suppose.

      I ask the Labor supporters here, to address my concerns without attacking the Libs, I do not care of your opinion on the other parties, simply I ask how you can support an obviously incompotent party?

    • Jess Ayen says:

      05:23pm | 27/01/11

      Droughts, too, are allegedly a result of man-made global warming. And bushfires.  And….everything else, I suppose. 

      Once you start taxing people with the claim that you can influence the weather, you’re entering loony-tunes territory.

      How much will a tax on man’s carbon dioxide emissions lower the global temperature?  How many droughts, floods and fires will it halt?  If it fails to give us perfect weather day in and day out, can I sue for false promises?

    • cynic says:

      03:15pm | 27/01/11

      The lack of comments shows mal you are way off point on this one. The other news outlets input carry a 90% against input.

    • Greg says:

      04:10pm | 27/01/11

      He is wrong, regardless of what other news outlets are saying.

    • Nick says:

      03:15pm | 27/01/11

      So what happens next time there is a national disaster??Is this the new way forward? The government spends and wastes and then its left up to the workers to bail out the government.Why should we bother with donations and charity lets just give all our money to the government and live on food coupons.

    • Eric says:

      03:17pm | 27/01/11

      Wow, two articles supporting Gillard in a row.

      Thank God for our objective, non-partisan, impartial Press Gallery!

    • BobM says:

      03:36pm | 27/01/11

      Look on the bright side, Eric.  At least these objective, non-partisan, impartial so-called journos, will be paying the levy on their fat incomes. I sure as hell hope they enjoy parting with their cash to prop up their goddess, Julia.

    • Where was Eric? says:

      10:06am | 03/02/11

      Eric, this site is all about being non-objective, partisan and partial as all articles are opinion pieces.  And it looks like you were a bit off the boil - you only managed to be the fifth person to comment.  Spending too much time at the H.R. Nicholls Society fundraiser, eh?

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      03:19pm | 27/01/11

      I do not believe for one second that this levy will cease on June 30, 2012. 
       
      Labor Governments are pretty good at lying about taxes (sorry, levies). Have a look at Mike Rann’s efforts - Emergency Services Levy, Save the Murray Levy… the list goes on and so does the rip-off. None of these levies have been removed. 
       
      At least Howard announced his, followed through, then removed them when they had served their purpose.

    • RT says:

      03:56pm | 27/01/11

      Of course it won’t be removed… you’d be a fool to believe it will

    • PaulB says:

      03:58pm | 27/01/11

      Victoria and the Pyramid levy, placed on fuel pricing.  Basically a tax to bail out an incompetent treasurer with a big mouth.  Now absorbed into the State’s petrol tax regime and conveniently forgotten.

    • Dave says:

      12:16am | 28/01/11

      You’d have to be a complete idiot to attack the Emergency Services Levy.

      And Gillard did announce her levy prior, what makes you think she won’t follow through?

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      03:27pm | 27/01/11

      And what sort of idiot would give us a three-tiered Medicare Levy to go with our outrageously complicated income tax system? 
       
      Is that really what the focus groups said to do, Joolya, or is this actually your own idea for once? It seems insanely complicated.

    • Ryan says:

      03:32pm | 27/01/11

      I expect this will just morph into being called the “Medicare Levy” and the Labor party will hope like hell that everyone forgets that one third is for a fake “flood levy”. Then they will be well placed to bring in their next tax, the carbon tax we were never going to have.. remember.

    • Just Sayin' says:

      06:50pm | 27/01/11

      Yep, that levy that is conveniently already in place but no longer needed will suddenly be the solution to our ongoing health crisis.  It’ll stay.

    • Richard says:

      03:29pm | 27/01/11

      Yes, previous governments and even Tony Abbott may well have introduced or proposed the introduction of levies in the past, but the unmistakable impression Gillard has now created in voters mind is that her government is ALL about ruthless taxation and wasteful spending, and nothing else.

      They say that when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Well it seems to me that all Labor knows how to do is to levy new taxes, so I shouldn’t be surprised that their solution to any problem you can care to name (flooding, climate change, binge drinking, smoking YOU NAME IT) is to tax the bejesus out of us yet more.

    • Peter says:

      03:31pm | 27/01/11

      Malcolm is there anything that Gillard does that you don’t agree with?

    • Jess Ayen says:

      05:17pm | 27/01/11

      Julia could bring back *WorkChoices* and Malcolm would find a way to spin it as A Good And Wise Thing.

    • ian m says:

      03:33pm | 27/01/11

      Its not so much the levy it’s the morons running this country spending the money that worries me. if past performance is a benchmark the money that actually flows to the infrastructure will be 30 percent short thanks to labor incompetence and mismanagement.

    • Cat says:

      03:35pm | 27/01/11

      I think Mr Farr has failed to grasp that there is an essential difference between this levy and levies which have been imposed in the past. This levy is being seen as an additional tax when many Australians have already given generously, indeed given more than they can afford.  It is a tax which is, whatever the government might say, likely to stay.
      It is a tax which, unlike the other levies, the RBA is advising against implementing. Senior economists are also advising against implementing it.  It is also an unnecessary tax because the NBN could, at very least, be delayed a year to pay for it.
      It is a tax which is likely to have social as well as economic consquences’
      If it is implemented then the best we can hope for is that the government falls rapidly and the Coalition can undo some of the damage which will be done.

    • ET says:

      04:00pm | 27/01/11

      The “after” witch is hot… Gillard is not.

    • Louisa says:

      03:39pm | 27/01/11

      I object to this levy. The Queensland floods were a result of bad government decisions - so WHY should I pay over $13 a week

    • Robert says:

      04:08pm | 27/01/11

      Louisa, why indeed! Given that the levy, according to you quote of $13 PFN, will cost $676 for the full year, your taxable income must be in excess of $142,600 PA?  Golly, how will you live on the paltry remainder (I’ll work it out for you as I don’t trust your maths - $141,924)

    • Dave-o says:

      04:08pm | 27/01/11

      What government decisions.

      P.S If we don’t pay for the recovery, we’ll end up paying for the recovery in other ways which over the long term will probably a lot more in other non-direct costs.

    • Pauline says:

      04:16pm | 27/01/11

      Louisa,
      Who was in government for 12 years and didn’t do anything with infrastructure?  A shameful indictment of the Howard?Costello years who did absolutely nothing for Queensland and the rest of the country in the way of roads, rail, buildings etc.  We had to pay for a 11/2Billion levy for Dairy farmers and I am not one, a gun buy back levy and I don’t own a gun, a sugar levy and I don’t have a sugar farm and an Ansett levy and my husband worked for the opposition airline.  We paid these levies and there was no carryon like there is now.  What utter double standards some people have, it is beyond belief.  A little help for these poor people in Queensland and Victoria is welcome.

    • Bruce says:

      04:43pm | 27/01/11

      Just imagine how much money the current government would have if it knew how to manage, administer and not squander public money ! I do not have to list the economic and management failures of the current labor government, we all know them off by heart.

    • Louisa says:

      05:43pm | 27/01/11

      That’s correct Robert - income in excess of $150,000….and pay taxes on that amount. Do you have a problem with that?

    • Louisa says:

      05:46pm | 27/01/11

      Silly Dave-o

      I mean the Queensland Government you should be held responsible for opening the floodgates. Stupid stupid labor voters - if you are so much in favour of this levy, then pay for it yourself. I already give enough in taxes and private donations.

    • Christian Real says:

      07:13pm | 27/01/11

      louisa
      Why should I, as a taxpayer had to pay the levy for John Howard’s Gun buyback scheme, and all of the other Levies that John Howard brought in during his 12 years in Government.
      Tony Abbott, nor the rabble that he calls his Opposition party did not object to any of these levies brought in under the Howard Liberal government.
      One guess is that as long as the Liberal party brings in levies, it is okay, but if any other political party dares bring a levy in then it’s not okay.
      The Liberals seem to feel and believe that there is one rule for them and yet another different rule for any other party to follow.
      Tony Abbott is a shallow opportunist, and his concern is not for Australia or Australians, his only and main concern is for himself and his ambition and hope to become Prime Minister at any cost.
      Tony (the phoney) and his cheap political pointscoring is not what Australia or Australians need to ever become Prime Minister.

    • Corinne says:

      07:49pm | 27/01/11

      Louisa, you poor, poor woman.  How does it feel to have more money than heart?

      Surely thirteen dollars a week to help your fellow countryman won’t break your bank account.  Bad government decisions or not, we should be looking after our own.  Using this as an excuse to explain away your lack of compassion is an embarrassment on your part.

      My husband and I COMBINED earn your yearly income and we are raising four kids; I do not for a second begrudge paying a little extra for the flood victims - and yes this is on top of my private donation!

      And for the record, I don’t think Robert has a problem with the amount that you earn but rather a disbelief at your “me, me, me” attitude and selfishness.

      Have a heart, stop whinging and give a little more!  You may just find you get something back (oh and no, it won’t be anything tangible).!

    • Jess Ayen says:

      07:58pm | 27/01/11

      “The Liberals seem to feel and believe that there is one rule for them and yet another different rule for any other party to follow”

      How about you and your fellow travelers?

      If you thought Howard’s levies were A Bad Thing, then you must also argue that Labor’s levy is A Bad Thing, lest you appear hypocritical and hyper-partisan.

    • Chris L says:

      10:37pm | 27/01/11

      That’s the point, Jess. We all paid those levies and I don’t remember there being this kind of wailing going on. I certainly won’t benefit personally from this one any more than I have from the previous ones but I don’t begrudge the assistance to those who need it.

    • Richard says:

      11:32pm | 27/01/11

      But Chris L., the difference is that the Coalition government had a track record of trying to be financially responsible. They really tried to cut the budget and sack some public servants and deliver tax cuts etc. This current government is the complete opposite, they’re just a bunch of drunken-sailor profligates who will never be satisfied, no matter how much of our money they flush down the drain.

      That’s why we’re angry, because this government has never tried to be economically conservative with OUR money, if they had at least tried to be in the past, I think you’d find that we would be a lot more accepting of this necessary levy.

    • Dave says:

      12:21am | 28/01/11

      Louisa the Wivenhoe Dam was at 191% its part of the Dam’s automatic mechanism to release water once it hits 100%,

      If the floodgates remained closed the dam under that immense amount of rain it would have burst because it would have hit the danger 225% and cause a widespread catastrophe

    • Tracy says:

      12:44am | 28/01/11

      I cannot believe for a second that people dont see the levy as a rip off.  Yes Australians should help each other as thats the way it works, so who in their right mind decided that its only the people that work their asses off and do well for themselves deserve to be the ones paying?  As Louisa said, for those that are on good incomes, pay through the nose for taxes and support a large part of the country already, they get means tested on so many things, and the govt already takes over 40% of “all that money” you so nicely talk about.  People are letting QLD know that we care by making donations….  well thats when we had a choice, now we dont, oh you earn good money, give more.  Just like medicare and every other rip off Australians and the government think they have a right to when someone does well.  Well you might like to think about it because its these people that ‘do well’ that pay for all the bludgers, its these people that dont get a god damn cent from the government for ANYTHING, so when you totally support yourselves and your family, does it seem right to screw them some more?  I dont see my husband for 6mths of the year so we can ‘do well’.  And for that, we should give give give.  So I believe that sometimes it becomes about me me me when we are constantly being penalised for ‘doing well’.  I give to PMH, I give to RSL, and I give to Telethon.  Because I have a choice, but dont tell me that people that ‘do well’ dont give enough.

    • Corinne says:

      10:59am | 28/01/11

      Tracey,

      The fact that you have managed to make money while “working your ass off” is great and one of the many benfits of living in our capitalist society and I certainly don’t begrudge you your earnings. However, I would suggest that those earning big money and “doing well” for themselves look down from their glass towers and recognise the fact that the true heroes of our country and the ones who day in day out “work their asses off”  are the workers who slog it out at ground level without a whole lot of monetary compensation for it.

      Do you not think the farmers, who had just gotten past the drought and are perhaps the backbone of our country, need help rebuilding their businesses after the devastation they have suffered due to the floods?  Do you not want fresh produce in future, or are you happy to have it all shipped in from China while our own farmers go broke?  And for the record, no I am not a farmer.  I was born and bred in Sydney.  Do you not think that the business owners who cannot access their flood ravaged premesis to start rebuilding their business due to the roads being washed away need help?

      I would also like to point out that I have never said that those that “do well” don’t give enough.  I just believe that all of us could give more, I mean $13 is one day’s lunch money.  Surely that is not too much to give?  A good friend of mine works at Woolworths where they are collecting money for the fllod victims and she is constantly surprised at the amount of money ordinary ‘battlers” are giving in order to help others.

      Regarding you not seeing your husband for six months of the year so that you can “do well,” that is your choice.  My husband is an Industrial Spraypainter and had the opportunity to work abroad on offshore oil rigs which would have seen us “do very well,” however we had to make a choice between earning lots of money or our children growing up with a father in their lives, the obvious choice for us was for our kids to enjoy their father.

      So you see Tracey, “doing well” is relative.  It is our obligation to look after our own and at the end of the day you get what you give.

    • Tracy says:

      05:18pm | 29/01/11

      Corrine,

      How blind you are to your own judgements, you mention glass towers??  What on earth makes you think that because people earning decent money (yes still with mortgages and bills to pay) put themselves in glass towers.  So if you are happy to pay an extra $13 a week do so, by all means, but nobody should be made to.  You talk about the ‘real workers’, well I would love to know who made you the oh wiseone to know how hard my husband and I do and dont work.  We give to this country and give and give and give, who are you to judge if we buy more expensive things than the person that earns under $50k and is exempt, do you think it is possible at all that we may have a larger mortgage or car payment than those and so also do not have the spare money?.  But as I said, it is just presumed that we should give more.  Why doesnt the government redirect some of the funds that we kindly give to overseas, Indonesia, PNG, ect ect and direct some of it home first.  THen people like you can stop judging the people that already give the most to this country.  By the way, my husband was also an industrial spraypainter, and decided to work offshore so he could have quality time with our children rather than work 6 or 7 days a week to have a decent income and not see our children, not go to their sports, school assemblys ect, now he does.  So thats YOUR decision.  Each to their own.  Why dont people that get under $50k give, they get less tax bills, money from Centrelink, reduced medical bills, reduced childcare ect ect, why dont you suggest to them to stop taking all that off our govt to give to Qld.  My parents are dirt poor and I grew up dirt poor but never did I think of the people that were on better incomes that they deserve to give more because of it.  We far from live the highlife, and far from have it easy but get sick and tired of being told by our mighty govt and people like you that we will be judged everytime we try to do better for ourselves.  Good for you that youre happy about it - im sure you dont get slugged everytime you turn around and half your luck.

    • Corinne says:

      12:45am | 30/01/11

      Tracey,

      I think if you re-read your posts you’ll find that the one blind to their own “judgements” is in fact you.  I have not judged anyone but merely offered a rebuttal to statements previously made in some of these posts.

      I have never made any sort of judgements about how hard you or your husband work nor would I judge you for buying expensive things (that’s just ludacris) and as I have stated before I would never begrudge you your earnings. I am not sure what you mean by “people like me” who judge you for making money, because I am all for a person being rewarded for hard work.  I am simply not in agreeance with some of your statements such as the judgements you are making about people earning less than $50k being ‘bludgers.” I was attempting to point out to you that the not all people that “work their asses off” are “doing well.”  Obviously, I have not made the point clear enough .

      You say you grew up dirt poor, well I was lucky enough to grow up in a wealthy household and my parents made it very clear to me early on that we should be thankful for what we have and give back to society;  as such my parents were very charitable - not only by way of donations and gifts but also through the giving of their time.

      Perhaps this is why I don’t see it as a huge imposition to give a few hundred dollars of my hard earned money to people that need it more than myself.  Yes, we have a mortgage (two in fact) and yes we are paying off cars and boat loan etc but at the end of the day I believe in helping out those less fortunate. 

      Tracey, our opinions are obviously very different.  Unlike yourself, it is my belief that the people that “do well” should in fact give more - and I have no problem doing so. I am reserving my opinion regarding those earning under $50k not having to pay the levy - perhaps this should be lowered to say $20k - but I do not agree that people receiving benefits should be made to pay.  Why penalise the most disadvantaged members of society?  And before you start calling them “bludgers” please stop to think about some of the unfortunate circumstances some of these people are in.

      Tracy,  I am not blind to the fact that there are certainly other means of our government obtaining the monies needed to fund the floods nor am I ignorant to the wastefulness that we have seen from this government;  I am also in total agreeance of the need to help our own country before we consider giving huge aid cheques to other nations, however I am mindful of our obligation to help our own.

      Surely if you were left homeless in a town that was totally deviod of services and infrastructure, you would appreciate (and perhaps expect) the help?  I’m just saying!

    • Tracy says:

      01:42pm | 30/01/11

      Corinne,
      I find it amusing that you believe you have not judged, you may want to read back comments such as - more money than heart (to someone elses opinion), poor poor woman, me me me attitude and selfishness, not anything tangible (do you know this lady to insinuate she is materialistic), look down from their glass towers, insinuating that we made a choice for our children not to see their father over money.  You havent judged? At no stage did i say people earning under $50k are bludgers, people sitting on their asses not LOOKING for work are - they are not necessarily the most disadvantaged - there are too many that make that choice.  Should they be exempt though? 

      You seem to be missing the point, I also believe in helping and I do it, I donot, however, believe in being stung everytime something comes up because we work hard to earn a good living.  Think of a ‘dink’ couple earning $45k ea, sitting back not having any levy although they earn $90, not giving at all to anything,  (I just met a couple 2 days ago), now here are we, give voluntarily to many things inc the flood and get told constantly to give more.  IM JUST SAYING, this is obviously just going to go round and round and other people are probably a little sick of us repeating ourselves to prove our indivual points and opinions. Cheers for the debate.

    • emma says:

      03:35pm | 18/04/11

      a result of bad government decisions? I think you’re forgetting that the Queensland floods were a NATURAL disaster… as much as you may be hating on the government… im pretty sure it wasn’t their fault.

    • The Badger says:

      04:02pm | 27/01/11

      Abbott says NO
      What did you expect, he is after all leader of the party of NO.

      This is NO surprise.

    • Jess Ayen says:

      05:27pm | 27/01/11

      It’s good for an Opposition Leader to say “No” to stupid wasteful policies.

    • Bruce says:

      02:34pm | 28/01/11

      The badger: Since when did ANY opposition party not say NO to a government idea. Standard politics !

    • Jim says:

      04:02pm | 27/01/11

      Gillard, KRudd, Swan and Wong have all shown themselves to be pathological liars; who seriously believes (besides you nosthow) that this levy will be a short term thing and won’t increase? None of them have been able to keep a promise since 2007, why start now?

    • Alex says:

      06:37pm | 27/01/11

      Very true, although Tony Abbott isn’t exactly a saint either. Come to think of it, any politician with religious beliefs can’t be trusted.

    • Greg says:

      04:23pm | 27/01/11

      Gillard come out with some “Pay as you go” spin, and now she is only “supposed” to be a leftist?

      Are journalists really that gullible and stupid, or do they really think that the rest of us are?

      Either way, it explains why the public perception of journalists is what it is.

    • Z says:

      04:25pm | 27/01/11

      Unemployed and lazy Labor bogans are the only winners with this levy.  They own cheap fibro cement dumps and don’t insure them - then hold their hands out while the rest of Australia pays to rebuild them.
      I like many donated sizeables sums to the Premiers Appeal and now I am slugged further!!  Why wasn’t I told about the proposed levy while donating?
      Maybe the cash wasted by Labor Governments on desal plants would have been better spent on dams and this wouldn’t have occurred….. Oh that’s right, Labor stooges kept telling me that dams are useless because it never rains in Australia anymore….BTW how is the desal plant going in Qld Anna??

    • Jugger says:

      05:49pm | 27/01/11

      Good on you for donating Z.  Your donation is tax deductable, and in all probability your tax return will more than cover your share of the levy smile

      For example, I received around $1000 in my tax return for the last financial year.  My share of the flood leavy, going by my current income will be around $50, so I’ll come out way in front.

      And if I donate more money to the flood appeal, I’ll be able to claim more tax deductions, so my tax refund will be even larger this year smile

      Seriously people, this is not the end of the world, and its not even close.

    • Jess Ayen says:

      06:08pm | 27/01/11

      Jugger, something sounds “off” here. You DO know that one doesn’t receive a dollar-for-dollar tax refund on all money given to charity, right?  It’s just deducted from your taxable income. What you receive back in your tax refund depends on a number of factors.

      But it is not the case that if you give $1000 to charity, you get $1000 back from the tax man.  I suggest a chat with your accountant - he’ll be able to explain it to you.

    • Jugger says:

      06:48pm | 27/01/11

      Yep, I know Jess, and even if I didn’t, it doesn’t change the fact that the donations are tax deductable.

      I heard of a brother and sister in Queensland who lost both their parents to the floods, as well as all their possessions.  What do you think they would think of a person like you, arguing over the loss of an extra measly $1 a week?

      I know its no big loss to me, but it is an extremely important gain to the flood affected areas of our country.

      And whether you like it or not, you’re going to have to pay the levy, so you might as well be gracious about it and stop carrying on like a spoilt child.

    • Time to go Julia says:

      08:50pm | 27/01/11

      Exactly right Z. Time and time again those that work their guts out to earn a decent income have it all sucked a way by this incompetent government. I am big believer in supporting my fellow Australians and made donations accordingly…. I can’t see me getting that donation back, but will ensure it is my last one now that I know I will be making more donations through tax.

      Jugger, perhaps when you actually get off your back side and work for your money you will understand what we mean… your little $50 contribution to this levy is nothing compared to those that really work.

    • john tracey says:

      04:26pm | 27/01/11

      Your comment
      Both political sides ,Labor and the Coalition,  love to raise revenue and sweat from the public and hate to deliver anything for the public .
      Both political sides have an aversion to the public and hatred for the public but expect support and admiration from the public in return.
      Both political sides would abolish the public if they could .
      Both political sides would like to confiscate the wealth and health from the public

    • Labor Ruined NSW says:

      05:56pm | 27/01/11

      Ah, but John, There is only one Party that really knows how to spend isn’t there, hmmmm.

      One Party put aside money for the nations future, and now the other party has gone and spent it all.

      I know which party I was wealthier under.

    • John Tracey says:

      06:28pm | 27/01/11

      Labor is Number One.
      Greens are Number Two.
      Liberals don’t count .
      Only the mass media counts Liberals.
      Nobody else does

    • Matt says:

      04:26pm | 27/01/11

      Good analysis Mal.

      If you’ve annoyed this bunch of innumerate One Nation ratbags pouring out their bile and fury upon you, then I reckon you’ve done good work for the day.

      They’re like a mini-Tea Party, without Sarah Palin’s intellectual gravitas…

    • Jess Ayen says:

      05:30pm | 27/01/11

      Only a deranged Leftoid would find a way to drag Sarah Palin into this discussion.

    • Nick says:

      04:33pm | 27/01/11

      A no to Labor policy is a Yes to Australia’s future.

    • Alex says:

      06:38pm | 27/01/11

      A no to major party policy is a Yes to Australia’s future.

      FTFY

    • luke says:

      04:35pm | 27/01/11

      The government could easily find the money to rebuild infrastructure without enforcing the flood levy. I guess they are saving all that money for a rainy day.(re-election)

    • Gregg says:

      04:37pm | 27/01/11

      Mal, is it you reporting that has it wrong or just Gillard not quite getting it eight in her own mind re the carbon capture
      ” Gillard argues essentially that these schemes were merely window dressing and were not much use without a price on carbon, which is now her uncluttered goal. “

      For that kind of means she is removing them because something did not exist and yet her uncluttered goal is to get what didn’t exist!
      And one of the concepts of carbon pricing or calling it by its real name, more taxing!, is to fund coal use/carbon storage technology which is what would help the environment whereas another tax by itself is just another tax.

      I do hope she knows what she is doing but that is a vain hope given all other performances.

    • Harold Bray says:

      04:41pm | 27/01/11

      I don’t have a problem at all with the “levy”, however I do have a big problem with the Labor Party’s ability to successfully administer the scheme so EVERY single dollar raised goes to replacing the infrastructure etc lost to the floods. Pink batts all over again???

      Hope I’m wrong but I have a “bad” feeling about this given this current Labor Government’s woeful record on administering taxpayer money on so many previous schemes that have gone pear shaped!!!

    • Jugger says:

      04:42pm | 27/01/11

      I’m quite happy to pay the levy to help rebiuld the flood ravaged areas.

      I am also saddened that we have become a nation of selfish whingers.  To all those complaining about this levy - what do you think people who have lost their house, all their posessions, or a family member would say about you whinging over a measly $1-$5 a week?

      And to all those who have already given to the flood relief:  good on you, your donation is tax deductable and you’ll probably get more back in your tax return than you will pay in levy anyway, so stop whining

    • Rick says:

      06:00pm | 27/01/11

      Exactly right…and I would rather fork out a few bucks a week routinely, so that we don’t have the current situation with those donated millions going god know where anyway.

      I’m sure that not every cent of the money in the current kitty is being distributed to entirely worthy recipients, and shudder to guess how much is also being lost in “administration” fees.

      A “Disaster” levy (not just for flooding, but also the other end of the scale..as in bush fires) should be the norm…and who knows, we might even save some money in the process…by not feeling obliged to fork out a $500.00 donation when these things do happen.

      Fair comment about the poor buggers that have lost everything too…I imagine that a lot of the contributors to this forum have not even got their feet wet during the carnage….and apparently they seem to consider holding onto their money (and political persuasions) of prime importance here.
      Cheers mate.

    • PaulB says:

      06:16pm | 27/01/11

      Do you even understand why this is such an issue in the eyes of so many?  Why do you think we pay taxes in the first place?  This is not about the levy itself, this is about how Government treats its responsibilities to those who entrust it with that slice of their personal wealth.

    • Mr Green voter says:

      12:43pm | 28/01/11

      umm…
      I have paid my taxes to cover this already. maybe the pollies should cut back on their pay and perks. Plus cut back on the bureaucracy that triples the recovery cost.
      Politics in Australia is in a real bad way because there are too many blood suckers draining the funds for spurious reasons (rampant corruption and incompetence)

      And why don’t they just borrow the money the budget doesn’t have to be in the green every year (also it is only in the green because since Howard there has been a systematic shifting of what should be public debt like this to private household) the gov’t can borrow funds for half the cost as the average citizen so why are they making us borrow more (or for longer) rather than just taking advantage of the better rate they can get and borrow it themselves!!!!! it is all our money anyway why make individuals borrow from the over charging Banks when they can get it in Bonds at the reserve rate.(all it serves to do it increase the already swollen Big Bank’s profits)
      if you have a home loan this reduces the amount you can pay back each week so you are effectively having to borrow more money just to pay extra interest.

    • Kris says:

      04:44pm | 27/01/11

      So, because Tony Abbott is the leader of a party which has imposed/supported levies in the past, he should automatically support this one now? What a ridiculous argument.

      The Coalition’s opposition to the levy stems from the Government’s unchecked spending to this point. Why impose a further financial burden when the current pool of funds could be spent more wisely?

      Then again, that leaves little scope for re-branding it down the track as part of the already convoluted and incomprehensible tax system.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      04:45pm | 27/01/11

      Flood Levy, piffle…. small potatoes. Which Liberal idiots left the preservation age of superannuation at 55 for the baby boomers? That’s like saying I want to give you ten years before you retire to run down your superannuation and virtually guarantee that you will be on the pension. BER and Flood Levy won’t bankrupt Australia, idiot rules on superannuation will. The preservation age for the superannuation of everyone, including baby boomers should be 65.

    • Vaunted says:

      04:54pm | 27/01/11

      You must be seeing a different Julia Gillard from the rest of us Malcolm. I have no idea what a supposedly intelligent man like yourself is prepared to turn a blind eye to serial ineptitude in every conceivable area, but she and her cronies haven’t fooled me and millions like me. The real issue here is not the additional tax, it’s just one more example of her inability to tackle the real malaise afflicting our federal governance; arrant profligacy. I suppose we should be grateful for the small mercy of her shelving the ludicrous cash-for-clunkers scheme before it went the way of pink batts, cash for plasmas, global warming (er, sorry) climate change action, the BER, aboriginal housing, the Timor solution, fuel watch, grocery watch and all the other ill-conceived, mismanaged, ragbag fiascos of the current regime, but the real elephant in the room is the vast sums of money set aside in Conroy’s portfolio, the ideologically driven internet filter being one, and government funded cable NBN being the other. With respect to the NBN I believe Barrack Obama said it all yesterday: “Within the next five years, we will make it possible for business to deploy the next generation of high-speed wireless coverage to 98% of all Americans”, and get this, at NO COST to the American taxpayer. Would that be the same wireless technology that Conroy told us wouldn’t have the capacity to adequately serve Australia, a nation with just a fraction of the population of the USA? Perhaps instead of defending ineptitude you might earn your salary by appying your inquisitive reporter talents to finding out exactly what it is that Obama knows that Conroy doesn’t.

    • Tom says:

      05:31pm | 27/01/11

      @Vaunted, well said. $42 billion, so some generation Y punce does not have to suffer latency on his games. That should be a comfort to those Queenslanders who lost everything in the floods.

      Conroy bull-shitted us. But that’s OK. Please don’t take Mal out of his smug media comfort zone.

    • grumpy old man says:

      07:47am | 28/01/11

      Vaunted, you got my vote! I thought it was particularly interesting to listen to Obama talk about wireless in his State of the Nation address. This is the same wireless technology that Conroy and his whimpering sycophantic supporters keep insisting will not work! Confirms my view that NBN is about labor being seen to do something really big, not about doing something productive.

    • Holly says:

      05:31pm | 27/01/11

      I am ashamed of my fellow Australians - and I suppose some of them were draped in Aussie flags yesterday , eyes moist with the thought of the spirit of mateship.  The proposed levy is very fair. It is not proposed as a permanent solution and I am sure the government will be looking at a permanent disaster response such as New Zealand has before too long.

      You all carry on as though there was no waste during the Howard years- I challenge all of you with this view to read the productivity reports relating to that era, but you are probably all too lazy and merely willing to to follow the mantra of your leader Tony Abbott, a self confessed liar.

      Interestingly there is a “rat” in the coalition ranks - the WA premier has come out in support of a levy.

      When I think of the hundreds of billions of dollars which the Howard government handed out to its rich mates in the form of tax cuts, superannuation tax exemptions for over 60s, the small percentage of money people claim was “wasted” on the batts scheme and the Ber pales into total insignificance.

      Where were you all during the Howard years when levy after levy was imposed, and not just on higher income earners?  I did not hear you all screaming with outrage then

    • Jeff says:

      06:07pm | 27/01/11

      Holly your first paragraph was good but the rest is full of negative shit. To those who disagree with the tax I guess we don’t need schools, roads and hospitals as no one wants to pay for them. I hate Julia Gillard and labor but does that matter. Most things labor have done seem stupid to me.

    • Joanne Kerner says:

      06:12pm | 27/01/11

      Holly - We all know you are a died in the wool Labor Supporter so Julia can do no wrong.  Believe me there was outrage during the Howard years on the levies and YOU were one of them spewing it.  Having a memory lapse are we Holly?

    • Toady says:

      07:58pm | 27/01/11

      Holly, last year my wife and I paid a tad over $40k in income tax, collected just over $200k in GST and paid it into the government coffers, employed 11 people, calculated their taxes and paid it into the government coffers, paid the equivalent of 9% of their wages into their super funds for them, maintained full health insurance for our family, sent our kids to a ‘private’ school (catholic) and spent thousands for the privilege, kept diligent records to prove we were honest business people, didn’t get a cent from the government for doing all this work, collecting all this tax and handing it to them, sat back and watched these fools waste billions and billions (it would be nice to run a business where you don’t have to worry about how much you spend) and generally felt a little sad that we had to put up with possibly another three years of a terribly wasteful, inefficient, incompetent government blowing all the taxes we sent their way.

      I didn’t donate to the flood appeal -  I knew these fool would hit us with a tax.  I knew these idiots would come out calling for the insurance companies to become charities and pay people who didn’t insure their homes.  It is always the way with Labor - whip the dullards into a frenzy, lie, cheat, steal from us, rip us off, waste our taxes, abuse their positions, abuse those who stand up to them, call the opposition offensive names, demand no scrutiny…..  people like you deserve Gillard, Swan and Rudd.

    • Richard says:

      08:48pm | 27/01/11

      Oh Holly, you’re always ashamed of your fellow Australians. Fair Dinkum, you preface every single one of your punch posts with that phrase.

      But has it ever occurred to you that your fellow Australians are ashamed of you (and your ilk) for being so dumb, gullible and mis-informed? For having such blatantly erroneous ideological bias?

      If your so ashamed of Australians, why not go and live in Europe? I hear that they became so socially progressive and blew their budgets so far out of the water with deficits that the whole continent is now bankrupt and their currency is about to implode.

      If we go down that same path, would you stop being so ashamed of us then?

    • FSM says:

      05:44pm | 27/01/11

      Australians as always will pitch in and help out others in need - this is not only about levy’s imposed upon the tax payer but about tax in Australia in general - perhaps and I am not really thinking outside the box here - Australia should stop imposing more tax upon those who alreay pay but stop making us all pay for those RELIGOUS organisations who NEVER PAY TAX on income they earn.  I fail to understand why simply declaring yourself a religous organisation can exempt you from paying tax on income your company/organisation makes - lets have a fair tax stystem in Australia and stop this tax rorting.  Simply taxing religious income in Australia could help solve alot of the flood crisis.

    • Jess Ayen says:

      06:11pm | 27/01/11

      We should force all ideological and religious groups to pay tax.  That means unions, GetUp, Greenpeace & SeaShepherd, etc as well as the formal churches.  I don’t want to be subsiding ANYONE’s whacky beliefs.

    • Chris L says:

      10:54pm | 27/01/11

      Sounds fair to me. I think FSM and Jess are on the right track.

    • Flash says:

      05:58pm | 27/01/11

      We have already donated to the appeal, now we are forced to give under compulsion, shame on you Julia.

      This gouge must be stopped, what are you going to do Rob? let me guess, you will side with Labor again, you whimp!

      Labor couldn’t run a Teddy Bears Picnic.

    • Kris says:

      06:08pm | 27/01/11

      @ Holly

      The latter part of your argument rests on the (flawed) assertions that tax cuts and superannuation tax exemptions are wasteful and that they benefit only the rich. Also, I’m not sure how many people were killed by tax cuts, but I think the batts debacle slightly has the edge there.

      And a self-confessed liar as opposed to a proven liar with an unstoppable compulsion to deceive further? Which is worse?

    • Flash says:

      06:11pm | 27/01/11

      Oh, one more point, I wonder if all you PRO Levy sprukers actually have a job?  Its easy to support something when it doesn’t cost you anything.

    • Ryan says:

      08:25pm | 27/01/11

      Yep, I do. I earn $93k and I have absolutely no problem with this levy as I’m not a whingeing miser. I can easily afford to give up 0.35%, for 12 months, of my take home cash to help rebuild.

    • Chris L says:

      10:57pm | 27/01/11

      Yup, I work full time in the private sector with no government assistance and I’m fine with doing my part in times of need.

    • Josephine says:

      04:28pm | 18/04/11

      it’s also easy for you to be against the levy when you have a roof to live under. but imagine being a flood victim with absolutely nothing… yes it’s pretty obvious the government could be paying for all this… we aren’t a poor country.. but they aren’t going to so quit your whinging and sacrifice for one year… what you will be losing in paying this levy is nowhere near what the queenslanders have lost from the floods.
      You’ll be losing , what, a couple of hundred dollars? that doesn’t compare to losing loved ones and homes.

      and yes i have acknowledged that you have “donated” which is great, but obviously the donations aren’t raising anywhere near as much as is needed (Only 16 million) and this levy would really make a difference.

    • Jess Ayen says:

      06:14pm | 27/01/11

      Putting your hand into someone else’s pocket and then giving THEIR money away is not “generous” and it is not “charity”.

      You can only be “generous” with your OWN money.

    • john tracey says:

      06:59pm | 27/01/11

      When we want advice from The Young Liberals, we will not ask for it.

    • Who took my lolly? says:

      07:39pm | 27/01/11

      Jess you’ve been a very busy beaver this afternnon
      playschool get out early?

    • Jess Ayen says:

      08:05pm | 27/01/11

      (1) I am not “young. (2) The only times I have ever voted Liberal in my life were 2004 and 2010.

    • Paul says:

      06:33pm | 27/01/11

      Just consider this levy your free $900 being taken back.  You pack of bloody whingers.  Only conservatives can have such double standards, billions in levys for sugar farmers, dairy farmers, gun buy backs and east timor but oh no don’t help Brisbane out.  Shame, you little greedy people.

    • MarK says:

      07:58pm | 27/01/11

      How much did you pay for East Timor Paul eh?

    • Tom says:

      08:12pm | 27/01/11

      Shame on you greedy little people who rushed out and bought consumer crap with your $900 from Kevin07. Why don’t you greedy little people give your $900 to the flood appeal?

      Why, ... because people like you are only generous with other people’s money.

    • Kris says:

      10:22pm | 27/01/11

      And if we didn’t get $900? I’m offended that with the already obscene amount of tax I pay, I have to listen to Gillard announce more and more taxes.

      I have donated voluntarily to this appeal. I do not need Gillard or anyone else to tell me how much I should contribute, especially when it is nothing more than a poorly disguised grab for more money to plug the rapidly expanding holes in the budget.

    • Daniel says:

      06:50pm | 27/01/11

      All Tony Abbott can keep carrying on with is his line “Another big new tax”. He is just as bad as Gillard. The Greens are the only forward thinkers on this.

    • joe and the volcano says:

      08:02pm | 27/01/11

      Shutting down Australia’s mining industry in a vain attempt to stop the climate from ever changing again is hardly “forward thinking”. Should be sacrifice a few virgins as well?

    • Perthgeezer says:

      06:50pm | 27/01/11

      I don’t mind paying… We need to cough up the money and get on with fixing the problems for all the states hit with tragedy.

      What I want to know is how the insurance companies found the back door so fast? JG has stated that we need to look at how we define the word FLOODING.. Well how about ANYTHING to do with excess water? And if people choose to live in flood suspect zones pay the related premium, how hard can it be..

    • GrownUp says:

      08:12pm | 27/01/11

      “Well how about ANYTHING to do with excess water?”

      I am covered for excess water if my roof blows off and the rain pours in. I am not covered for excess water if a creek, stream or river overflow and my home is inundated that way.  The latter, “flood insurance”, is something I’m taking a chance on not having because on the one hand it’s another bill I don’t want to have to pay, and on the other I do not live in a flood zone or anywhere near one.

      If I’ve screwed up and end up inundated through flooding, that’s 100% on me. It’s not my fellow Australians’ job to bail me out (pun) from my bad choices.

      Insurance isn’t rocket science, but people need to check what they’re covered for - ask questions if you don’t understand, for heaven’s sake!  If you’re a responsible adult, responsible enough to be allowed to own a home, then take due care before you sign any insurance contracts.

    • TCB 24 X 7 says:

      08:33pm | 27/01/11

      Would you like to know why the insurance companies got out of it.
      . Because gilly (typical female),opened her mouth too early about a Levy, The insurance companies took a sigh of relief when that news came out of her mouth.
      Now a STRONG LEADER, would not have made such a statement publicly, but rather pressurred the ins. companies into coughing up all, if not a good percentage of the money.
      I bet you if Abbott was in charge he would have kicked a few Heads and got some money out of them.

      labor is not led well and is too WEAK.

    • Gazza says:

      07:04pm | 27/01/11

      Along with my one thousand dollar donation, shouldn’t this tax be tax deductable?

    • Flash says:

      07:19pm | 27/01/11

      Hey Paul, Listen UP, We have already given, have you? I don’t like being FORCED to give again, that’s the point. Nice timing, announce this new ‘flood tax’ after most people who were going to donate already have.

      I’m all for helping those in need, I just don’t like being forced to, thats not Charity, its Highway robbery.

    • kerry says:

      07:21pm | 27/01/11

      The Australian public’s responae to the Boxing Day tsunami was over $190 million. To date, the Australian response to the Qld floods has been over $176 million. We’re a very generous lot.
      The Australian government’s response to the Boxing Day tsunami was, in 2005, to pledge $1 billion over five years to rebuild infrastructure beginning in 2006.
      The following year, the Australian government pledged another $1 billion over 5 years. That takes us up to this year folks. We’re still paying for the Howard govt’s pledge. So enough already about not giving os aid, especially since it was a howard govt initiative that the current govt has to honour.

    • GrownUp says:

      08:15pm | 27/01/11

      When Howard was PM, we had a huge surplus. We could afford to help our neighbours in a disaster.  Now, Labor has thrown away Howard’s surplus and there’s nothing left in the kitty.  Trying to point the finger at Howard has backfired here because it will only make people remember “the good old days” when not only could we help our fellow Aussies, we could help our neighbours too and still have plenty left in the bank.

      Ah, nostalgia!

    • John Tracey says:

      08:50pm | 27/01/11

      only infantile children voted for Howard.
      only babies vote Liberal.

    • Grownup in name only says:

      09:25pm | 27/01/11

      When you grow up a little more you might discover that Howard sold the countries assets, and neglected infrastructure and services to build the booty that he then spent on middle and upper class welfare and vote buying exercises at election time. NO wonder you felt better off.
      You might also find out that he didn’t have to navigate the biggest financial crisis since the great depression.
      Of course you’ll have to grow up first

    • Chris L says:

      11:05pm | 27/01/11

      John are you trying to sound stupid? I know the Liberals enjoy telling everyone else how stupid they supposedly are but does it really help to join in and throw juevenile names back at them?

      GrownUp, the money was put to good use. I’ll understand you don’t remember the GFC since the effects on Australia were mitigated.

    • Ben81 says:

      12:15pm | 28/01/11

      @ Grownup in name only-  “and neglected infrastructure”

      Are you using that strange definition of “neglecting infrastructure” that seems to be often thrown around that ignores the truckloads GST money going to the states for just that, and somehow implies John Howard should have stripped the states of their powers and taken over their spending himself?

    • Frank says:

      07:59pm | 27/01/11

      The only good thinkg about this tax is that it will probably mean the incompetent money wasting labour government is gone sooner rather than later - Bye bye !!

    • Colin J Ely says:

      08:28pm | 27/01/11

      It is not the idea of a levy you drongos, it is the thought that the money will be spent by this bunch of profligate peanut brains! wink Can we examine the books first? How much can we save by deferring some of OUR money that ‘Little Kevvie’ has promised to such diverse places as Ethiopia and Egypt? Not really in our ‘sphere of influence’ I would have thought? How about we ‘really closely’ examine the NBN? Anything we can defer there? How about we cancel all the rest of the ‘stimulus spending’ involved in the BER? If we haven’t already spent it to stimulate the economy its probably a bit late. How about if the ALP suspended @Nossy’s and @Persephone’s internet account for a while, I am sure that that would save us some money that can go towards rebuilding after the floods?

    • Alex says:

      09:14pm | 27/01/11

      Why do I get penalized (again)? I already payed my taxes. I am a poor renter. I am still trying to save downpayment for a mortgage. Now I have to pay for repairing those rich people’s homes. UNFAIR AUSTRALIA! National Anthem should be fixed. We take it from the working poor, we give it to rich!!!

    • Dave says:

      12:14am | 28/01/11

      If you’re earning under $50,000 you’re exempt from the levy, quit you whining

    • Gavin Veach says:

      09:21pm | 27/01/11

      I agree with a number of respondants to this article.  It’s easy to see how to find the money. Temporarily stop sending millions of tax payers dollars overseas and put we Aussies first.  That, plus putting a stop on the NBN would provide all the money we should need.  Whilst I’m on the wagon, how about we make sure it doesn’t cost a fortune to replace the damaged public infrastructure - we don’t want greedy companies charging $1000 per toilet and $5000 per square metre to replace buildings etc. But this is all too simple - coming from a simple family man…..being the Labor party, I’m sure you’ll manage to stuff things up and we’l all have to pay.

    • Against the Man says:

      09:31pm | 27/01/11

      you are the manager of a department in company x, you are given a budget by head office for the year to run the department and the projects they are allocated. you take the money and buy loads of fancy equipment (coffee machine, top of the line tvs, pcs etc), you throw parties to keep employees motivated. suddenly you get a letter from head office with a major project for your department but you have run out of money! you make your employees cough up $1000 each to cover the ‘mismanagement’ of funds. the employees aren’t too happy they would rather have kept their money but paid up because they would have lost their jobs if the project fell threw. so are you a good boss because you spent money recklessly to keep your employees ‘happy’ and appear ‘hip’ and ‘with it’? or are you a bad boss for making them pay for your incompetence? remember gillard and team have had zero major political achievements. crunch time is here.

    • Pauline says:

      09:45pm | 27/01/11

      Malcolm Farr - try to be objective not subjective…subjective is what politicians are! And…....(hello!) .you are not a politician!

    • GeoffS says:

      10:02pm | 27/01/11

      I planned to donate to the floods and the amount would have been doubled by my employer.  Now with the tax I will not be doing donating It is interesting that a family with 2 income earners will pay only 2 lots of $50 and a family with one income earner making the same (ie $120k) will pay almots 5 times as much.  How can this be fair, especially when you consider the 2 lots of $60k get two tax free thresholds as well.

      Julia hasn’t got this right and the application is of the levy is not fair in its application !!

    • Bruce says:

      10:06pm | 27/01/11

      Question: If we do not know how much the damage bill is. How come the government knows how much to tax us ?

    • Dan says:

      10:21pm | 27/01/11

      Why keep attacking the hard workers of Australia with new taxes…I mean levies, when it would make more sense to tax all companies 10% who declare 1 billion profit per annum or more, this would easily raise more $$$$$$$$$ and keep the inflation pressures off the average Australian. Gillard get a second job…I mean a real job and understand how hard it is to make a dollar. Whats next another Tax…I mean Levy to help pay for your next campaign for election. Do us a favour GO HOME! to where you come from your clearly not true blue!

    • nick says:

      10:47pm | 27/01/11

      Wayne Swann tonight saying the coalition doesn’t understand budgets….. a bit rich for a guy who has never delivered a surplus.
      He’s really struggling with this one, cut all the NGOs I say, non core spending on wish washy idealistic nonsense, most of which are probably requests by some lunatic from the greens.

    • TCB 24 X 7 says:

      12:26am | 28/01/11

      Should have listened to the interview on 6pr radio Perth with Sattler.
      swann didnt even know what was in his own budget.

      Dont worry, gillys and labors days are numbered and counting down.
      Their a WEAK mob.

    • giac says:

      10:52pm | 27/01/11

      At least the budget cuts they made were made to some truely useless projects

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      12:32am | 28/01/11

      Why is it that the idiots who support Howard and Costello don’t understand that they would have done precisely the same sort of spending but only the rich would have got cash when the poor would have been left to rot.

      What the hell is wrong with selfish cowards in this country.

      And listen up clowns - there is no legal basis for a surplus.

      A surplus is organised theft of taxes without services and the constitution of this country only allows for the raising of such taxes as are needed for services.

      If you simply raise tax and not supply services you are breaching the constitution.

      Talk about ignorant freaks led by the noses of the economic rationalist claptrap so beloved of the likes of Greenspan and co.

      And in case you clowns didn’t notice the world’s economies collapsed due largely to Greenspans policies being slavishly followed by the likes of Gordon Brown and John Howard.

    • nick says:

      07:34am | 28/01/11

      if a surplus is organised theft of taxes, a deficiit is organised destruction of a country, we are borrowing from the kids essentially.
      And the coalition wouldn’t have imposed this levy, the’d have had a healthy surplus to dig into

    • HarlequinBeelte says:

      04:36am | 28/01/11

      Fascinating!  Complaints re having contributed [tax deductable] to the Queensland Flood appeal….Complaints of not being Queenslanders and no responsible for rebuild of, well, anything.  MrAbbott maintaining his mitre of negativity regardless of what, when,who,which….Our Prime Minister adopting a policy of a one off payment carefully geared ....and all people can do is whinge.  Whinge?  Yes, Australia is becoming a nation of Whingers….careful…...tis catching.

    • Davo says:

      09:33am | 28/01/11

      Nothing new here
      Right=Me
      Left=We

    • John Lynch says:

      12:54pm | 07/02/11

      So Abbott the Idiot thinks the flood crisis and the Yasi crisis should be met out of current revenue.  What about the levies he supported when in government.  The Gun Buyback levy, the Dairy Farmer adjustment levy, the Cane farmer adjustment levy, the East Timor intervention levy, the Ansett failure levy are ones that come to mind.  When I look at Abbott’s record I’ll bet the Jesuits are grateful they managed to dodge a speeding bullet.  Would that we had done the same.

      JFL

 

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