There was a really excellent point made by a comedian once in one of those deliciously low brow English lad mags which I, errr, borrowed from a friend.

Hey lowlife piece of grass, guess what I did to your mother? Pic: Herald Sun

The comedian deconstructed the old insult “I screwed your mother” and asked the perfectly valid question whether the line actually worked as an insult. Put it this way, argued the comedian. If a bloke claims to have had sex with a woman 30 years his senior, surely he’s damning himself worse than anyone’s Mum.

OK, so that’s clearly a light-hearted take on a pretty serious issue. It’s obviously both tacky and disrespectful to insult someone’s Mum in any way. Western Bulldogs player Will Minson admitted as much yesterday after he made an uncouth remark about Port Adelaide player Danyle Pearce’s mum, and has duly been suspended for a week. All the same, there’s an argument that there are double standards at play here.

This is turning into a weird week here on The Punch’s sports desk. On Monday, I wrote a column about the exemplary rugby league player Robbie Farah, who lost his wonderful Mum Sonia to cancer on Sunday. It is also the NRL’s Women in League week, which recognises the contribution of women to Australia’s boofiest sport.

The AFL and its clubs also do their bit to recognise the hard-working Mums and other women who do so much behind the scenes. So it was good to see the Western Bulldogs, without intervention, step in and suspend their player, who has priors when it comes to saying really dumb shit onfield.

The exact nature of the Minson slur is said to be pretty ugly, and not far removed from the phrase mentioned in the second paragraph. Quite possibly it is even more distasteful, in which case all bets are off. But as things stand now, does anyone else think the outrage here is a little over the top?

Footballers say stuff to each other on the field all the time. It’s part of the game. Sporting bodies have made it perfectly clear that racist insults will not be tolerated, and that’s fair enough because such insults are never made in jest.

The thing about mother jokes is that they are often made in the spirit of light-hearted banter in which sportsmen frequently engage. Again, I am not saying they are clever or even remotely pleasant. I am merely saying, and here I tread on eggshells, that there are worse things you can say to a person than to insult their mother.

You can actually go further down this line of logic. You can argue that it is inherently sexist we get so uppity about a maternal insult. After all, no one would bat an eyelid if a bloke insulted another bloke’s dad.

The “yo momma” jokes in America are a good example of mother jokes being used within accepted humorous confines. To start a line with “yo momma is so fat…” and end it with something like “... her belt is the equator!” is not the sort of line anyone can say to anyone, but there are times and places where an outbreak of yo momma jokes is acceptable banter.

There are also times when insulting someone’s mother is plainly and disgustingly offensive. One such occasion was when a rugby league fan held up a banner to Broncos player Gorden Tallis saying “Your Mum’s a rig”. Understandably, Tallis didn’t react well.

So now we have it from on high that the AFL field is apparently not an acceptable place for mother jokes. OK, now we know. Players are still going to bait each other, so perhaps they’ll have to revert to insulting each other’s brothers or sisters or suburb of residence, or their rivals’ namby pamby colour scheme.

That last suggestion would cause yet more insults directed at the beleaguered Port Adelaide Club, whose official club colours are silver, black and teal. Silver and teal? SILVER AND BLOODY TEAL???? Those stupid bastards deserve everything they get, I reckon.

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    • Roscoe says:

      06:29am | 20/06/12

      The world is insane.  Overnight I was browsing YouTube for some cool motorcycle vids.  The comments attached to those videos - in fact, any video you care to name on YouTube - contain some of the most offensive, degrading and demeaning language you will find anywhere.

      And it’s there for everyone - including my thirteen year old daughter - to see and read.  I’m sure when she browses some boy band video there will be the same disgusting commentary.  And we’re worried about what ONE man said to another man on a football field?

      We really have it all arse about face as far as I am concerned.  On the one hand disgusting language, porn and sex are thrust in our face from every direction with abandon and on the other hand we get upset over one comment none of us heard.  The cool generation of today think that calling someone a ‘sik c*nt’ is a flattering comment - I unfortunately read it on numerous blogs? 

      What a joke this latest furore is.  The world is going to shit on line yet our bureaucrats are trying so hard to clean up something that really shouldn’t have reached our ears.  Well done Lucy Cornes - just couldn’t help yourself could you?

    • Mahhrat says:

      12:31pm | 20/06/12

      Somebody give this person more internets.

    • year of the dragon says:

      01:23pm | 20/06/12

      Well said Roscoe. And author.

    • Gregg says:

      06:38am | 20/06/12

      ” Footballers say stuff to each other on the field all the time. It’s part of the game. Sporting bodies have made it perfectly clear that racist insults will not be tolerated, and that’s fair enough because such insults are never made in jest. “
      The stuff is all about getting in the head space of opponents.

      The Bombers had the legendary Kookaburra, Alex Epis, a great half back who hailed from WA and so named because he apparently would never shut up, always talking to opponents and probably quite effective in breaking up their concentration.
      OK, racial insults are something else and indigenous blokes may have different feelings on family, Pearce having indigenous heritage!

      ” The thing about mother jokes is that they are often made in the spirit of light-hearted banter in which sportsmen frequently engage. Again, I am not saying they are clever or even remotely pleasant. I am merely saying, and here I tread on eggshells, that there are worse things you can say to a person than to insult their mother. “
      I’d disagree entirely that they are made in the spirit of lighthearted banter Ant and more designed to get under the skin of an opponent and if anything not just break their game concentration but also provoke opponents.

      I’d reckon most professional players would just ignore stuff like that but obviously there are some that will not.
      Is it over the top or should we be insulted?
      Not really, when it’s just part of the game.

      If it had been said to a non indigenous player, it would probably not have got the focus it has.

      Good to see you eventually got Robbie back to being a fella!

    • TChong says:

      06:40am | 20/06/12

      Where would the “Cleveland Show” be without its “yo mammas” jokes ?
      Thanks for the link to some great SOO moments.

    • Nathan says:

      06:46am | 20/06/12

      How dare you attack Aussie Rules its the best game in the world ever seen. Never ever say anything negative and if you say something positive we will just turn it into a negative because we have an inferiority complex

    • TracyH says:

      07:36am | 20/06/12

      So it’s OK to insult mothers, but not for racial slurs. I don’t see the distinction. It’s not OK to insult ANYONE in my code. The footy palyers are just bullies with an excuse. And the so-called ‘light banter’ you speak of isn’tso light if the intent is malicious. Yeah we all shit stir each other in fun, but but i doubt there is any ‘fun’ intent on a footy field.  But ultimately, I believe if people want to hurl abuse on a field, go for it. The real issue is that viewers are privy to anything that is said on field. The day they introduced microphones to the play is the problem. If the players themselves want to be wankers, so what? W shouldn’t be eavesdropping.

    • Craig says:

      07:42am | 20/06/12

      Why is there a need to insult anyone anyway?

      This isn’t high spirits, it is calculated abuse designed to harm the other player’d on field performance.

      In other words, sabotage.

      We’d get upset if a player on the opposing spiked a player’s pre-game drinks in order to cause them to fail during the game. We should get as upset when a player on the field makes a deliberate act designed to harm the performance of an opposing player.

      This is not high spirits or adrenaline. Coaches train their players on when and where to use calculated insults to put opposing players off balance.

      The instruction to ‘aim to tackle their left side as they have a blind spot’ is supplemented by ‘insult their mother as they’re sensitive to it’

      People in other situations, just a highly charged, are able to refrain from insulting their opponents and their families. If footballers cannot, they should be removed from the field permanently for cheating.

      I think you’d find the remaining players suddenly able to curb their tongues, rather than ‘boys being boys’.

      It is the attitude of this writer and people in influential positions of clandestinely allowing this form of onfield cheating that allows it to pervade the game. Football would not be diminished through cleaner language, and the reputation of loutish, abusive players and teams would actually improve - as might their revenues.

      Right now it is no wonder Aussies are seen as dumb, drunk and racist. It is because we don’t teach our young people to respect each other, instead train them to seek every advantage, even cheating to win.

    • Batta says:

      10:45am | 20/06/12

      Why are we so arrogant that we think the rest of the world is looking at us to determine if we are “dumb, drunk and racist”? How many small countries do you hold opinions on?
      You have obviously never played a contact sport, you cannot treat it with the rules of normal society. Can you give me an example of another “highly charged” situation where the physical conditions and clashes between men occur and insults don’t happen?
      I will also ask you have you ever been angry or in an argument with somebody and said something to them that you later regretted?

    • Phill says:

      11:11am | 20/06/12

      What a load of crap.  If a team or player is bad in a particular aspect of a game that is where you attack.  It’s called tactics.  If a rugby team is poor in the backline, you move it wide.  If an AFL player is no good in a marking competition you kick to the man on him.  If a player has poor dicipline you work on it and get the penalty.

    • craig2 says:

      07:46am | 20/06/12

      Back in my cricket days, I was abused every time I walked out to bat, 11 blokes sledging me from ball one to the time I got out. I was called everything and was accused of doing sexual things to all biological things on this planet and all the while I just smiled and nodded my head to the offending players. After my retirement, many years ago, I met up with number of retired opposing players back in those days at a BBQ and many of them admitted, it was over the top but they also admitted they were just not good enough to get me out and that was their response. I just laughed and I said, “I know, that’s why I kept on encouraging you to sledge me, so you forget about where to bowl to me and it was easy runs for me”. Always play the ball and not the man and so ends the lesson for day kiddies!

    • Russ says:

      08:26am | 20/06/12

      Yeah, craig2. But did the opposing team abuse you?

    • Budz says:

      09:07am | 20/06/12

      Oh it happens in cricket all the time when I bat too! I actually copped it the most from the team where I was kinda mates with most of the team (not as good mates as the guys in my team). But after I scored 3 consecutive 50’s against them they realised that their sledging made me more determined and after that, they didn’t say anything.
      Honestly though, opposition can say what ever they want to me, I really couldn’t care. All they are doing is giving me more motivation to kick their ass.

    • Big Jay says:

      09:23am | 20/06/12

      Great comment!!

      If you actually take offence from the insults of the opposition then you are letting them win, psych you out!...If you play full forward then you should expect all manner of insults from the full back to put you off your game.

      Obviously, its best to let your performance do your talking,kick 6 goals on that full-back (AFL), put on some legal hits (AFL/League/Union), score runs (cricket), then there is the good old “look at the scoreboard”.

    • craig2 says:

      10:05am | 20/06/12

      Russ: just thinking about that…..yea occasionally, got called the usual tripe about being a this and a that. Just kept making runs in the end!

    • Russ says:

      12:13pm | 20/06/12

      Craig2. Imagine how I felt. I was an umpire, both cricket and baseball. I even got booed by my mates!

    • wolf says:

      01:39pm | 20/06/12

      Nice story Walter Mitty.
      Was this before or after you took up ‘extreme revenge’ as a hobby?

    • craig2 says:

      07:14pm | 20/06/12

      Wolf: you’re such a boorish person and i’m starting to feel sorry for you. I’m sorry that your life experiences must be so damn dull compared to mine and you have resort to online sledging to make yourself feel better. Sad.

    • Tim says:

      07:46am | 20/06/12

      Ant.
      I think your logic is off here.

      Sure racist comments might never be made in jest but comments referring to racial elements might be. At least not any worse than what you’ve alluded to in the article.

      If leagues want to say sledging is not OK, that’s fine. But they need to be consistent.

    • Kerryn says:

      07:52am | 20/06/12

      Then there’s the legendary one between Michael Voss and his brother Brett (who played for the saints) as Brett was going for goal:

      “My father slept with your mother.”

      Brett apparently missed.

      Siblings eh?

    • Spatula Joe says:

      08:39am | 20/06/12

      That’s hilarious. In fact, Matty Johns thought it was so funny he tried to pass the story off as something that happened between him and his brother. We can just add that to the list of things NRL has stolen off the AFL, a list that includes, but is not limited to: Grand finals, final 4, final 5, final 8, State of Origin, Indigenous All-Star Games, an independent Commission, expansion into Qld/WA/SA, interchanges and so much more. League appears to always be 10 years behind.

    • Levi of Bris says:

      09:18am | 20/06/12

      I cant tell if you are a troll or just a complete idiot Joe. Stole the grand final?? Maybe the AFL is just jealous that it couldn’t get its concepts off the ground and Rugby League took them and made them wildly successful? Wouldn’t have anything to do with AFL being a game nobody outside of VIC, SA, WA and TAS gives 2 craps about?

    • Tim says:

      09:42am | 20/06/12

      Spatula Joe,
      Andrew and Matthew Johns are older than the Voss boys, so how do you know they were first?

    • ddd says:

      10:21am | 20/06/12

      @spatula joe - c’mon you left heaps out, RL stole the shape of the ball, that the game is played on grass, that people can go watch, that there are more than 1 team, that it’s played in Australia (I suppose there’s a bit of originallity as RL is played overseas…), but you’re spot on mate, bloody thieves the RL! Glory to VFL! - you twirp

    • Thomas the Spankengine says:

      11:37am | 20/06/12

      Levi, the NRL is hardly successful in comparison to the AFL. In fact, it is wildly unsuccessful in comparison. The fact is the AFL doesn’t need gimmicks like the State of Origin or Indigenous All Star games anymore as the league stands in good stead on its own.  The grand final is an obvious one as the AFL were the first league in the world to establish a GF to determine a winner in a non knockout competition. The AFL GF, by the way, is a far bigger drawcard and is far more successful than the piddling NRL effort. Also, State of Origin didn’t work as well in AFL because there were too many strong states, so you couldn’t have a simple state on state game. That’s the thing with rugby league. It is played around the world, but only really as a mickey mouse sport. It is not considered a serious sport in NZ or England (the only other countries that play it) and is the secondary sport in Australia despite the howls of protest from the few RL fans emanating from there. So in essence, RL is not the major sport anywhere. No wonder the fans have a chip on their shoulder.

    • Tim says:

      12:54pm | 20/06/12

      Lolz @ the Spankengine.
      So RL is not a major sport anywhere (despite being played in many countries) but AFL is played in three states and it’s huuuggge.
      Ah, it’s funny when AFL fans can’t handle the fact that no one else likes their sport.
      No wonder AFL fans have a chip on their shoulder.

    • Kev says:

      04:11pm | 20/06/12

      Levi of Bris - Let’s rephrase that. Nobody outside NSW and QLD gives 2 craps about rugby league.

      Tim - Wow so league is played in NZ and some tiny Pacific Island nations wow that’s something to celebrate.

    • Tim says:

      04:32pm | 20/06/12

      Kev,
      forgetting the fact that you’ve missed a whole heap of countries where Rugby League is played preofessionally, can you point to the part of my comment where I suggesting celebrating anything?

      I was simply commenting on Spankengine’s delusions of AFL grandeur when it isn’t played seriously outside of a couple of Australian states.

    • Bob Stewart, the Elder says:

      07:53am | 20/06/12

      What else to expect when community values are not taught to the tween years in the social studies curriculum at school?

    • TracyH says:

      10:53am | 20/06/12

      They are.

    • Ray says:

      08:24am | 20/06/12

      I have a couple of suggestions about ways to reduce player behaviour problems that should work well with all codes - not just AFL.

      1. Give each player a ball then they would not have to squabble over who’s turn it is to have the ball. (It seems to work fairly well with golf.)

      2. If suggestion 1 is not acceptable possibly we could stop players from running (too much risk of injury) and they could say something like ‘Excuse me could I have the ball please?’ if they think that another player has had it for too long.

      3. Get rid of the goals and all ideas about keeping score, I am sure that the competitive aspects of the various games lead to aggression.

      4. Start all games with all the players sitting in the ‘naughty corner’ and only let them on to the field once they have proven that they can behave.

      5. Replace referees, umpires and coaches with social workers who might be better able to persuade the players to play nicely.

      6. Ban red cordial and chocolate for 24 hours before the game.

      7. Ensure that all players have their Mums on the sidelines ready to give them a hug if their feelings get hurt.

    • Building bridges and getting over it says:

      09:31am | 20/06/12

      Yes Ray you are very right, we must remove any shred of competiveness out of the games, there is too great a danger of feelings being hurt, or perhaps a nail being broken….When did football become so damn soft

    • Scotchfinger says:

      01:11pm | 20/06/12

      8. Require all players to pass a simple aptitude test.

      9. Ban players who ‘met’ their wifes/girlfriends through use of flunitrazepam (aka rohypnol). Game could not continue due to lack of players.

    • Badjack says:

      08:28am | 20/06/12

      With regard to your “yo mother” jokes Ant. We can now say, because you used the expression yo instead of your, that you are a racist. OMG what next.

    • Danni says:

      08:46am | 20/06/12

      I think you’ve all missed two points here.

      1. There’s a fine line; sure it’s very subjective however the same can be applied to other rules where players are subject to suspension - you can tackle someone as “part of the game”... but swing, hit or body slam someone and there will be consequences.

      2. Football is their job; I just don’t know how anyone in their right mind can draw a link between comments on a YouTube video (social media community) and say this can be paralleled with banter on field - these players are working when they play, they are getting paid to play the sport. It’s like any workplace - there’s a line you dont cross to maintain some level of professionalism (in this case a term used very loosely) which varies across industries. I’m sure whatever it was, I would apologise to regain whatever job security I had left.

    • K says:

      08:50am | 20/06/12

      There is a line, Ant. At it’s finest, banter can be witty and humorous. Danyle Pearce probably doesn’t know Minson from a bar of soap, yet here is a grown man insulting his mother. I’d be kinda pissed as well if I was walking around Melbourne and some random guy came up to me and starting insulting my mother. I’d probably have a swing.

    • Matchofbris says:

      09:41am | 20/06/12

      Shouldn’t a strangers insults be LESS annoying? If they don’t know you, they are clearly just trying to piss you off… Just seems logical to me that its EASIER to ignore a random insult than if a friend insults you - as it has much more emotional weight, and/or chance of being remotely accurate.

    • Phill says:

      11:36am | 20/06/12

      That’s it exactly Matchofbris.

    • year of the dragon says:

      01:31pm | 20/06/12

      K says:08:50am | 20/06/12

      “if I was walking around Melbourne and some random guy came up to me and starting insulting my mother. I’d probably have a swing”

      I’d drop your mum’s hand and swing back K.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      02:42pm | 20/06/12

      K and Matchofbris are fighting over his mum. Can’t you both share her?

    • Suzanne says:

      09:06am | 20/06/12

      It all boils down to a lack of respect for women which is rife in AFL and Australian society in general. Anyone who speaks out against it is apparently an un-Australian, pc-feminazi wowser.

      Funny how there’s never any ‘your father’ jokes, is there? No, they’re always directed at women…mothers, sisters, daughters of opponents.

    • wingnut says:

      09:57am | 20/06/12

      It’s rife is it? you know this for a fact? You work closely within the AFL and the players?

    • Tim says:

      11:11am | 20/06/12

      You do realise that all of the players are men right?

      How would a “your father” joke be an effective sledge?

    • Phill says:

      11:48am | 20/06/12

      Actually it is the opposite, it’s because the men do have respect for women that the sledges work.  If the players had no respect for women, they sledging would have no effect and wouldn’t happen.

    • wingnut says:

      09:18am | 20/06/12

      It’s not offensive, why it has been taken to this level is beyond me. Next talking on the field will be just banned full stop because someone somewhere maybe offended by the noise of the voice.

    • M says:

      09:26am | 20/06/12

      Thicker skins need to be grown.

    • AFR says:

      09:35am | 20/06/12

      People need to HTFU. Seriously.

    • Lyla says:

      09:59am | 20/06/12

      So if the player’s mother happens to be Indigenous?....

      But I think we can all agree the spelling of ‘Danyle’ is truly horryble.

    • Gordon says:

      10:18am | 20/06/12

      For mine, the answer is to give the mum right of reply: A few minutes alone with the offender and a wooden spoon.

    • Evalee says:

      04:52pm | 20/06/12

      ah, the wooden spoon….an almost perfect day.  Bogans and beatings in one happy place!

    • Amanda says:

      10:28am | 20/06/12

      rape jokes are never funny. Not on the field, not off the field. Minson is an idiot.

    • willie says:

      02:31pm | 20/06/12

      Is “Rape jokes are never funny” some new movement. My Uni just got plastered with hundreds of “Rape jokes are never funny” stickers and posters.
      More to the point who said it wasn’t consensual. You assuming sex must be rape points to something disturbed about you.

    • Batta says:

      10:37am | 20/06/12

      As Australians we look for ways to be offended, we are rapidly becoming the worlds greatest whingers with no sense of humour. The simple fact is that if I (someone who has never met your mother) tells you “your mother wears army boots” If she doesn’t then how can you be offended, it is just mindless drivel from an idiot that doesn’t know your mum?? And if on the other hand, she does in fact wear army boots, then you might be embarressed but how can you be offended if I am simply pointing out the truth?
      On another level, I would like to ask Danyle Pearce if he has ever “sledged” anyone on the football field in any way? if the answer is no then I suggest he is a liar, but if the answer is yes, then doesn’t that make him a hypocrite for getting upset at this ludicrous comment?

    • Batta says:

      10:37am | 20/06/12

      As Australians we look for ways to be offended, we are rapidly becoming the worlds greatest whingers with no sense of humour. The simple fact is that if I (someone who has never met your mother) tells you “your mother wears army boots” If she doesn’t then how can you be offended, it is just mindless drivel from an idiot that doesn’t know your mum?? And if on the other hand, she does in fact wear army boots, then you might be embarressed but how can you be offended if I am simply pointing out the truth?
      On another level, I would like to ask Danyle Pearce if he has ever “sledged” anyone on the football field in any way? if the answer is no then I suggest he is a liar, but if the answer is yes, then doesn’t that make him a hypocrite for getting upset at this ludicrous comment?

    • Greg says:

      10:41am | 20/06/12

      Wouldn’t you love to be playing on Pearce this week
      Knowing that this kind of stuff puts him off his game there is all manner of legal sledging not directed towards his mother that you can throw in
      Just a quiet mention about how soft he is or a quiet mention to cornes about how his wife needs to fight his fights for him because he’s a bit soft as well.

      What a bunch of sooks honestly to great tradition of what happens on the field stays on the field is well and truly dead, I know there’s plenty of topics that are no go zones nowadays but surely we can still have a decent sledge, and like many people have said the best response to a sledge is to effect the scoreboard then let the sledger know about it.

      Obviously Pearce isn’t good enough to do that so he has to resort to complaining.

    • Phill says:

      11:04am | 20/06/12

      I think he needs to harden up.  A professional athlete should be able to let sledging slide off them.
      Over the years I have had all manner of crap fired at me to try to put me off my game.  Some of it pretty bad.  I found if I couldn’t think of a good comeback the best way was to just laugh it off.
      They are sledging to put you off your game.  You react, they win.  You don’t, you win.
      I kind of took it as a compliment.  No-one wastes time sledging someone they don’t see as a threat.

    • Leigh says:

      11:24am | 20/06/12

      Footballers are supposed to be tough guys. But, they have turned out to be a bunch of weepy pansies.

    • Esteban says:

      11:46am | 20/06/12

      When the annual fathers v sons (sorry parent/guardian v child) cricket game is on I like to field at a silly point or short leg when my son is batting. As close as possible maybe just a couple of metres from the bat.

      Just as the bowler is in the delivery stride I quietly let out the ultimate sledge ” I slept with your mother last night”

    • freethrow says:

      12:29pm | 20/06/12

      hit em hard, tackle hard, go hard at the ball, just dont hurt their feelings….wha?
      1 teaspoon of cement before the game, problem solved!

    • sam A says:

      12:39pm | 20/06/12

      “Are we really so offended by the mother of all insults?”

      just look at the two people involved in this and it will tell you all you need to know about it

    • Miles Heffernan says:

      01:00pm | 20/06/12

      Mean nasty footy players making mother jokes. There are glass jaws and then there is absurdity.

      Assuming the person’s mother was not ill or vulnerable and being directly sledged on that basis, and it was just another generic “I xxxxx ya mutha” from the school playground, this is AFL taking harassment to line, if not over it.

      Sure suspend him for being a unimaginative sledger - just not for being an offensive one

    • Angela says:

      01:04pm | 20/06/12

      Whatever else you may think, the fact that someone says something like this says a lot about his/her character and about what sort of person he/she is.  And what it says isn’t particularly nice.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      01:30pm | 20/06/12

      It’s been covered above, but for mine, I think Pearce needs to harden up.  I thought football was a man’s game, but somehow this soft cxxk stuff has crept in. Oh well, I gues its another example of PC going overboard.

    • MarkS says:

      01:56pm | 20/06/12

      This offensive thing about this is the talk about the insult being against the “respect to woman” PC rubbish the AFL goes on with. So it is ok to make sexual references to a bloke’s dad but not his mother?

      Will Minson is a serial fool. But Danyle Pearce is overly precious.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      02:06pm | 20/06/12

      Weird isn’t it? Some people, be they white, black, brown, yellow & any hue in between, think they can say whatever the hell they like about another person or persons, thewir colour, creed, parents or parentage..
      When challenged they resort to that ridiculous claim that ” I am exercising my right to Freedom of Speech”.
      Others also come to their defence.
      Yet let anyone so much as look sideway, let alone make some disparaging remarks at them & they start complaining about “Discrimination”, “Racism”.
      “you have no right to say that”
      If we are to stamp out racism, discrimination then it has tobe stamped out for everyone.
      Someone said recently that in club/change-rooms throughout Australia & elsewhere there was always what she referred to as “change-room banter”. It was accepted for what it was, there was no serious intent and everyone gives as good as they get & did it & it was accepted with a laugh..
      If this sort of racist, sexist, discriminatory banter is acceptable off the field then why, when it is not heard by any of the spectators, does it suddenly become offensive, racist, sexist, discriminatory on the filed?
      I have had a “person of colour” (I think that’s the accepteble term though he would accuse me of bunging on side if I used it with him) whom I have been friends with for many years and this is the sort of thing that goes on between us:
      He: If you stood against that white wall instead of in my way no-one would see you”
      Me: Yes &  you had better keep smiling when you walk down the street at night (our street has no street-lights) if you don’t want to be run over”
      Ok, Yes it racist & we would never use it within ear-shot of others unless they were good friends.
      But take offence? Of course not.

    • Borderer says:

      03:19pm | 20/06/12

      I still rate my comeback to an “I f*cked your mum.” comment as a world leader.
      I was working as a crowd controller at the entrance to a club, I just denied entry to some guy as he was obviously drunk.
      Drunk : “I f*cked your mum….”
      Me : ” What a relief buddy, she had been complaining about a premature ejaculator with a little prick and I was concerned it was my dad. Since it’s you I’m greatly relieved, now take your inadequecy elsewhere.”
      His mates thought it was hilarious, he didn’t but had the good sense to scuttle off.

      To be fair it wasnt off the cuff as I had pre planned the comeback to this old baiting line.

      Baseketball
      Squeak : ” I f*cked your mom….”
      Monsterously large guy: ” My mom’s dead…”
      Squeak : ” That explains why she didn’t move much…”

      Glen McGrath : “You’re fat, why are you so fat?”
      Sth African batsman : “Every time I f*ck your missus she gives me a biscuit..”

    • wolf says:

      03:56pm | 20/06/12

      McGrath was a far better bowler when he kept his mouth shut, evidenced by his classic exchange with a rookie West Indian batsman.

      McGrath : “So, what does Brian Lara’s d*ck taste like?”
      Sarwan: “I dunno ask your wife”
      McGrath: “blargh arghhh i will f*cking kill you arrrghgh blarrghh”
      [McGrath runs and cries at the umpire because the batsman says mean things]

    • Johnno says:

      04:20pm | 20/06/12

      Jack Reiwolt of the Tigers acknowledged that his father had recommended some sledging to his cousin Nck (Saints).  Nick was about to kick for goal when jack jogged down the field to remind him that Jacks grandfather used to root his grandmother.  Nick looked at hm strangely and kicked a goal.  Great sledge but did not have the desired outcome….

    • Soultrader says:

      07:59pm | 20/06/12

      The thought police are out to get us all. PC is killing all sports. All players try to get an edge to win. Afterall, that is what we promote - win at all costs. And when our great leaders of this country sit down and behave civilly and talk nicely about their opponents, then maybe the rest of us will. But there is no chance of that.
      PS - AFL - Delusions of Grandeur again - just like our PM and her advice to Europe.

    • Samantha says:

      04:09am | 21/06/12

      So are we going to sue JK Rowling too because Harry Potter made a derogatory remark to Draco Malfoy about Draco’s mother (read Goblet of Fire, can’t remember the exact line nor the page it was on)???  Not to mention the several occasions that Draco touts insults towards Ron about his family.

      Seriously people, and I’m a female.  I used to hear these sorts of jokes all the time when at uni and just anywhere else.  I don’t like them when they’re directed to me and told my friends as such (it’s not the same to say these sorts of jokes to females, even if they are the token bird of the group, which I was) and they complied and didn’t say them to me, but the blokes just didn’t seem to care.  They knew they weren’t serious jokes.  If the intent was there, that would be a different story.

 

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