From the Chk Chk Boom girl to the anti-Indian ratbags in Melbourne, Australians are racist. I’ve come to this conclusion not because I’ve got three university degrees but because I’ve spent the past four decades being asked if I’m a curry-muncher.

Not in a rude or insulting or abusive way, well, generally not. But in that genial, good-natured, piss-takey Australian way.

Which is still racist, and which explains why so many foreigners – to use a popular and racist Australian term for non-Australians – regard us as such.

Often I get the inquiry in an obviously non-prejudicial way from a genial sub-continental cabbie who’ll kick things off with a “So where are you from?” inquiry, hoping the answer will be something like Mumbai or Chennai, rather than the decidedly less exotic Mitchell Park.

I also get it when I meet new people socially. Usually it’s innocent but on one occasion it came with a threat of violence, which was kind of my fault.

About 10 years ago, as the result of a drunken bet, I did a job-swap with a NSW state politician, the National Party member for Murrumbidgee, Adrian Piccoli, who had laughably suggested over beers that being a politician was harder than toiling valiantly in the vineyard of truth as a journalist.

A few dodgy expense claims later I was in Griffith, in the heart of the Riverina, where for the next seven days Piccoli handed me his diary and made me work 14-hour days, doing every school visit, every constituent meeting, every ribbon-cutting event, every inspection of potholes or bent railway track, every speech to the local historical society and Rotary Club.

It was an illuminating exercise which proved without a doubt that journalists work very much harder than politicians.

The only unseemly moment came on the last day of the experiment, a Saturday night Jeans for Jeans Day fundraising dinner at the Yoogali Club, an enormous function centre on the outskirts of town where more than 1000 of Griffith’s hoi polloi gathered to raise money for kids with cancer.

There was a funny moment when one of the prizes from the silent auction – of all things, a framed and signed Cronulla Sharks jersey - was won by a local order of nuns who had taken a vow of silence and stood mutely on stage as they collected their gift.

After the sisters headed back to decorate their convent with league memorabilia, the pagans among us retired to the bar, where a local yobbo, his eyes crossed, smelling of Bundy, spotted Piccoli and started giving him the rounds of the table.

“I’m never voting for you bastards again, you’re a pack of f…ing liars,” he opened, poking Piccoli in the chest.

“You said you’d “never ever” bring in the GST and now I’m paying it, Howard’s a liar and so are you.”

Piccoli just stood there and took it but, inspired by a few Bundys myself, I decided to pipe up.

“Do you know anything about politics mate?” I asked.

“This bloke is a state MP, he’s not even in power, he’s in opposition, and he wasn’t even in Parliament anyway when the federal government brought the GST in.”

Bundyman put down his drink and turned around.

“I wasn’t f…ing talking to you, Chanderpaul Singh,” he said in reference to the West Indian cricketer of Indian ancestry.

“Why don’t you go and pick some more fruit?”

Stupidly I put my Bundy down too and stared at him.

“Let’s go,” Piccoli said, waving the bloke away with an arm as he came towards me, and giving me the world’s sternest lecture on the way back to the car, saying that in my capacity as the fake member for Murrumbidgee it probably wasn’t a good idea to get into actual fights with the constituents.

Bundyman sits on the outer element of the Australian racist spectrum, which has been the subject of much valid debate this past fortnight courtesy of the Chk Chk Boom girl, Sol Trujillo, and the Indian attacks in Melbourne.

The now-famous “fat wog, skinny wog” construction, coined by the Chk Chk Boomer, is predicated on the remarkably casual use of low-level racism in Australia, which has fuelled popular comedies ranging from Kingswood Country to Wogs Out of Work to Fat Pizza.

It’s still racist though.

Trujillo’s claims of racism were also understandable. He’s a smart guy, he’s not even Mexican, but from Wyoming, and coming from the buttoned-down and politically correct US of A it probably stunned and amazed him that, from the get go, he’d be depicted here regardless of his performance as a cross between Pancho Villa and Speedy Gonzalez.

But Sol, poor petal, can of course comfort himself with the $31 million he received for sacking a few thousand Aussies and sending the Telstra share price into the toilet.

The Indian violence is in a different category. I don’t think anyone could or should make light of the violence that has befallen Indian students down south.

There is some confusion about what’s actually going on – the Victorian Police don’t appear to have worked out whether it’s a series of “routine” attacks which are fuelled by theft or random aggression, or a string of race-based attacks whereby white supremacist miscreants are going after Indian kids.

If it is the latter, then it’s a source of shame, and you would hope that the coppers will do everything they can through the creation of a special task force and the deployment of extra police to hunt these racist hooligans down.

And while there can be no doubt that some of the protests in Mumbai, where Rudd has been burnt in effigy, are led by a tiny and militant Hindu rent-a-crowd, I’m sure there’s plenty of Australians of sub-continental descent who regard the Melbourne attacks as the worst example of racism in our country. And it’s a spectrum which starts with nick-names whiteys regard as friendly jokes, such as Paki or curry-muncher, and finds its vilest expression in the racist violence practised by the Bundyman and his brain-dead brethren.

Addressing our casual racism would require a total change in our national psyche.

One thing Australians can’t do very well is insincerity and euphemism.

I don’t think we’re any more or less racist than any other nation on earth, but we’re really bad at pretending we’re not racist.

The Americans have turned euphemistic racism into an art form. On our honeymoon we were struck by how in cities such as Boston and New York, white folks would tell you to avoid “bad neighbourhoods” because there were “certain types of people” which meant it wasn’t safe.

If a Yank landed in Sydney and told any average local they were heading down to Redfern for a bit of a look-see, they’d be told not too because it’s full of Aborigines and white derros who are violent junkies and alcoholics.

Our knockabout honesty might be something we take a perverse pride in, but it probably comes at a cost of making non-Anglos feel uncomfortable. Between Chk Chk Boom, Trujillo, and the Indian students, it’s worth having a bit of a think about.

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    • Jlazz says:

      09:07am | 03/06/09

      Of course we are! any country with this amount of cultures has to be racists. We are the most racist. Wogs, skips, sheep shaggers, these words are a part of everyone’s vocabulary

    • Ali of Up Here says:

      09:10am | 03/06/09

      People everywhere are racist! It’s not confined to any single country or race.

    • Samir says:

      09:14am | 03/06/09

      Judging a race of people by the actions of a few is what being racist is. Therefore, your article is the most racist thing facing the world today. Unbiased journalism is dead.

    • Scott says:

      09:15am | 03/06/09

      I’ve thought about it. The Australian Culture should not change to make others feel more comfortable. We are an accepting and loving country who embraces our multiculture society. One of the most peaceful countries in the world being slagged for being racist amuses me. I wonder what dirt we could dig up about our accusers country? I suspect there’d be alot worse.

    • Brad says:

      09:18am | 03/06/09

      To be politically correct, you must be incorrect.

    • Nathan says:

      09:19am | 03/06/09

      We’re no more racist than other countries, we’re just open about the discussion.  Unlike countries like Israel were jews cannot marry non-jews, the quirky Japanese, the Chinese, South Africa, the list goes on.  Trying being a blonde female in India where hordes of men gather around to stare making sounds like skippy (the Indian woof-whistle equivelant).

    • Don says:

      09:22am | 03/06/09

      Good article. We seem to struggle to accept our Australian diversity. I often ask people where they come from and from my point of view it is intended to show genuine interest in their heritage. I genuinely am interested to hear people’s family histories especially ones different from my own. I remember the teenage boy next door changed his name from Pedro to Peter to be more accepted by his mates. Shame but understandable for a teenage boy. Even though we have been here for 3 generations we still chose Irish Catholic names for our children to reflect our heritage. The marginal thugs who verbally or physically attack others should not distract from our basically decent acceptance of different heritages.

    • Linda says:

      09:22am | 03/06/09

      Love to see you and Andrew Bolt in the same room discussing this issue!!

    • Al says:

      09:24am | 03/06/09

      I have been told not to pursue a relation ship with an Australian born Italian girl because her father wouldn’t let her be seen with an Anglo Saxon, I have been abused by Australian born Lebanese in SW Sydney, I was in Sydney when two “men of middle eastern appearance” stabbed and killed an Asian man who was walking with his wife and infant child, I have seen different tribes of aboriginals fighting each other in the Northern Territory and your going to tell me I’m racist. There is a pretty clear disparity here, those that want to bandy the term around should take a good long hard look at themselves in the mirror first.

    • Joan Mohr says:

      09:26am | 03/06/09

      What is racist about being afraid that another nation , as we are so liberal, taking our country and our way of life. I would hate to dress as the women of some nations do while the men go round in jeans and open necked shirts.

    • Steven says:

      09:27am | 03/06/09

      I am a third generation Italian-Australian. My Dad drinks VB, uses the term “sheila” and has a penchant for anything “Bradman”. In saying this however, I am met with racism on a weekly basis. Only last month a new acquaintance asked if I was a “leb”.....I was not offended by his question, but I dont get around asking every “red neck” if they’re of good Dutch decent or pure Yorkshire convict….Australia is racist, make no mistake.

      I work for a Top 200 listed company with a repsected and important heritage. But, if In had a dollar for every time my background was mentioned (mockingly or not) I could probably retire…...During the Cronulla riots I was warned by a colleague not to travel to the Shire?! I am AUSTRALIAN! The yokels would do well to remember who helped build this country…..starting with our PM. Shame.

    • andrew says:

      09:27am | 03/06/09

      i think the musical Avenue Q says it best…. EVERYONES a little bit racist

    • Cindy says:

      09:28am | 03/06/09

      Bundyman? Such hypocrisy.

    • Pete says:

      09:29am | 03/06/09

      I think the truth may be somewhere in between the above….unitentional, intentional, part of the culture…at the end of the day isn’t it in the ear of the receiver? If you hear racial comments, then by definition they are racial. I reckon the intent is immaterial. When I was young I was with my sister on the tram, a kid i went to school said ...‘who’s that wog you were talking to?” She was horrified, as was I..the kid meant nothing by it. The two things that struck me were how stupid the comment was…she was a dark skinned Anglo, and how hurtful it was…Having said that, i don’t know subscribe to the fact that Australians are more rascist than anyone else..

    • Leigh from 'Staaallya says:

      09:29am | 03/06/09

      I’m deeply saddened by this article, because the truth of it all is how politically correct this country has become. Sure, some aussies use terms like big wogs, skinny wog etc etc, but come on!

      Should i now get upset everytime I hear someone referring to another white australian male as a bogan? Or if I hear someone referring to a person as a ‘bazza’ or a ‘shazza’?

      Of course I shouldn’t. I am certainly not condoning any form of serious cultural insult such as the shamefull one you recieved in this article. But the real truth of being an australian, regardless of whatever your culture is, is the ability to take the mickey out of each other… just a little.

      I’m 23, and amongst my generation Wog isn’t, and never will be a racial term.

    • laura says:

      09:31am | 03/06/09

      I find the most descriminated group in Australia is the whites who are seemingly held to a higher standard than any other group. Your story has a been built on a racist framework where you think aussies are white and then construe them as racist. You wouldn’t even have to mention that you aren’t white as it is easily read into how you think of white Australians.
      Have a look in the mirror and make a decision are you one of your so called racist aussies - I think so.
      Wog is a term that was taken back by the europeans in the 80s as their own and they use it themselves and get upset when Lebanese try and use it to describe themselves. About the same time the term chic was taken back by women.
      My friends, address book, and facebook are filled with friends from all countries and I love them. One group of dinner friends I have call ourselves the United Nations as none of us come from the same country except for two wives who come from country areas of Australia.
      The whole problem is getting blown out of proportion and the actual people who are responsible for the so called curry bashing should be named and shamed and sent to jail.
      I believe you are right about the hindu rent a crowd. They were not protesting when 20000 tamils were removed from India. Please don’t look at white people as though we are the problem. The thugs of any country harming and robbing people in the streets is the problem.

    • Paulie says:

      09:33am | 03/06/09

      Dear David, great article until you referred to Americans as “Yanks”. There are some Americans who actually find being described as this word as offensive. I fear you are in the same boat as the rest of us, except perhaps you do not know it. I also find you calling the Police as “coppers” to be quite disrespectful. Australians like to make short nick names for everything, so I don’t agree with your reference to “Pakis”, if you believe this to be racist then calling an Australian an “Aussie” must be as well, which you have very clearly done in your article.

    • Nick says:

      09:35am | 03/06/09

      Since when did racism include anything and everything that related to the race of a person? Prejudice and discrimination based on the belief that your race is superior to another is racism, everything else is not. You are either racist or you aren’t, there is no such thing as low-level racism. Poking fun at another person because of their race in a good-natured way is not racism.

      And this whole Indian student thing is the biggest beat-up ever. Indians aren’t being targeted because of their race, they are just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It happens to enough of them and all of a sudden people who are looking for racism find it and suddenly forget about all the other non-Indians who are also victims of crime.

    • Art says:

      09:37am | 03/06/09

      Hypocrisy! It’s like saying “all asians are racists”.

    • Nick says:

      09:37am | 03/06/09

      White derros? Why is the colour of their skin important?

    • Georgina says:

      09:38am | 03/06/09

      This is a very well written article, I have to say as a foreigner myself I can’t deny that racism appears in all countries in some way or form, but what shocked me in Australia is how openly racist people are.  It is not only the drunk person down the pub who is getting a bit vocal, but the grandmother talking about the race of the person they speak to on the phone.  But it is not only foreigners who are targeted with racism, the worst forms of racist attitudes are those directed at the indigenous members of Australia.

    • Radagast says:

      09:39am | 03/06/09

      Why can’t we take the bitter medicine here? The fact is that most people in the world think we are racist, therefore we are. It’s as simple as that.
      Instead of making excuses, or resorting to name calling, ridicule and pointing out the worst of other cultures as an example (which is the normal rant of the racists), shouldn’t we start addressing the issue?

    • Kate says:

      09:41am | 03/06/09

      Just an observation from a foreigner,  I lived in Sydney for 3 years and immediately i noticed that the only aborigine people i saw were homeless.  I never worked with any or saw any working in businesses i went into.  Multi cultural cities will likely always have issues as different cultures try and exist alongside eachother, but it seems to me that the native Australians need the most help, its weird.

    • miki runi says:

      09:42am | 03/06/09

      yeah scott, be proud of being an aussie, why should these *foreigners* (non anglos) change the way we do things aropound here like our famous cronella riots or idolising the chk chk boom girl, meat pies (so australian they come from europe) and lets not forget our mateship (what ever that is), and being australian (whatever that is). Why should these *foreigners* make us change our ways… but tell me this scott is a second generation “leb” a aussie or a wog? is an aborigional an aussie or an abbo? why is it that only ango people are aussies? “wogs” came here to build the country and work their asses off, anglos came here to colonise and inflict genocide. Dont tell me it was the wogs that had the white australia policy or implemented the stolen generation policy…. it was the so called “aussies”

    • Paul says:

      09:43am | 03/06/09

      There’s a difference between racism as a form of abuse or disparagement and simply acknowledging someone’s racial origins. Bundyman was obviously throwing it in as an insult and that’s offensive but to simply note that someone’s Indian or male or tall or redheaded shouldn’t be taken as a form of abuse or even insult. The guy who refers to his workmate as a “curry muncher” while happily sharing an after work beer having spent the day working alongside them isn’t racist. Cringe makingly abrasive maybe but he’s not discriminating against someone. If he was complaining that the same guy was occupying a job that could be held by a local while using the same term then *that* would be racist. These things are really driven by context and intent, not by the words themselves.

    • MarK says:

      09:45am | 03/06/09

      In your stated example i would have to say, Bundyman, it is not racist violence, there was verbal racism granted, But if anyone not from murrimbidgee, and probably even if they were, If anyone said what you said and then stared him down, It would be handbags at five paces.


      Good article, It is undeniable there is racism in Australia the specturm is wide spread and varied. Unfortunatley a lot of it isnt just good natured and piss-takey.

       

    • MS says:

      09:45am | 03/06/09

      We are not asking Aussies to change any culture. Are you saying beating people is your culture??

      Comparing Australia to any other sub continent country is irrelevant. If you are born in sub continent it is known you have to live and accept discrimination of caste and class and people do accept it. But we do not brag about saying it is fairdinkum country and equal opportunities.. etc.

      Where in Australia we hear these words about fairdinkum, fair go ..etc and people from sub continent make Aus home to escape discrimination back home and if they are treated this was then it is bad.

      A peaceful country meaning you haven’t had any war with other countries that doesnt reflect the mentality of its citizens.

    • Brad says:

      09:53am | 03/06/09

      Are we expected to accept there are no differences between races of humans? That geneology has no meaning even in this modern evolved society, Anyone can see in ahtletic sports, or even universities there are races that rise above others. Yes I’ll say it, people of African heritage can run faster, Chinese people are smarter. So am I a racist? People who immigrate to a country and then fail to integrate will be viewed as different.
      At the moment there is little integration in Australia, and in fact there is now becoming a society of ethnic suburbs. The basic problem is lack of intergaration with the country immigrates choose to move to. Take a look at the demographic studies, anglo saxons choosing to move into regional areas while migrants Melbourne and Sydney areas. Then the media beat up this problem, and the TV, well how often to you see anything but an anglo saxon news presenter, or sailer on sea patrol, or person on neighbours etc etc. Ask yourself why, because that’s what sells. White anglo saxon normal people. They do it becuase that’s want advertsiers want. You can beat up on CHkk Chkk Boom girl, but try beating up on the mega rich corporations that push it all. No one will and no one can.

    • Matt says:

      09:56am | 03/06/09

      Great article!! And I agree with what you’re saying.
      I’m a typical Aussie white male and my wife is Korean.
      Before we met each other I would have fought tooth and nail that racism doesn’t exist in this country but that’s no longer my opinion.

    • Vladimir says:

      09:56am | 03/06/09

      I am a migrant myself, and not of Anglo - Saxon heritage, but have to agree with Al. Sometimes it seems the biggest racists are people who come to this country and try to change it to suit their needs. I love the mentality of people here, and how majority of people are not fazed by the color of somebody’s skin. Australians should not change to suit us migrants, but it should be the other way around. By coming here I have committed to accept the values of this country. This does not mean that I must renounce values from my own culture, but those values should not be dominant in my daily life. I believe the source of racism for an average Aussie is creation of ghetto like suburbs, where you feel like you have stepped into another country but still being on Australia’s soil. Fear of other cultures dominating in your own country does tend to create racial tensions. I think blame is more on the side of us migrants then true blue Aussies themselves….

    • Jeff says:

      09:56am | 03/06/09

      Calling Australian’s racist is in itself racist. You are labelling people of Australia based on their race. It would be better to say a portion of people in Australia are racist, some more than others. Sometimes I find the racism debate confusing. Do I have to feel bad when I see someone who appears to be not born in Australia and ask about where they come from? I am not asking because I think why is this foreigner is in Australia, I am asking as I am interested in where they came from. The answer might be I was born in Australia; my parents came over from India. They also might say, I am from Thailand and I am here on a study visa. I would ask did you find the process of getting a study visa hard as I have heard it is not an easy process. As for the police, they can’t be everywhere at once, unfortunately they have limited resources. The police are just normal people like you and me and who would want to be a policeman with the way some people treat them. A small proportion of the public don’t care about police and if they try to use force to control the situation they end up in court for hurting one of these idiots. If you ask me, if you don’t follow the police instructions, the police should use whatever force required with no complaints allowed.  People should see police and realise they have to behave or get locked up. These people see the police and think what right do these pricks have to intervene.

    • Dave says:

      09:57am | 03/06/09

      People all over the world are racist to some degree. I fully and totally accept Australia’s multiculturalism, and I also think that calling Itallians “Wogs” for example, is a way which many people have dealt with such a rapid change in the level of Mulitculturalism in Australia. By the way, several Italian people I knew growing up referred to THEMSELVES as wogs, why can’t the rest of us? Because of race? I also think it’s completely ridiculous that it’s not OK for Indian students to be treated violently when in Australia (it’s not OK by the way), but apparently it IS ok for the Indians to burn fake dolls of our PM at the stake over in India, chanting for the same death and violence they’re opposed to. There’s a lot of different sides to this argument, and to some extent, everyone is right.

    • DK says:

      09:57am | 03/06/09

      Having the privilege of being the only soldier of asian descent in an Australian Army Reserve unit some years ago I can tell you racism is real. Alot of people are racist without even knowing they are. It can be as blatant as leaving your name off rollcall (cheating you out of a days pay) or giving you the worst duties (he probably didn’t even know he hated me). If you were unlikely you got belted from time to time.
      Ironically the toughest officers were the least racist - they hated everyone EQUALLY LoL

      Even now, when out bush I sometime get jeered by people telling me to “go home”.
      I served this country for 8 years. I ‘ve done my time. This is my home.
      Not that I am complaining too much. 25 years ago I was in a refugee camp.
      Getting spat at from time to time is better than being stuck in a communist country.

    • andrew says:

      10:01am | 03/06/09

      yawn.  yes there is an undertone of racism in Australia.  But please, tell me a country that has permanent inhabitants that does not have racism in one way or another.  While you are at, please tell me a RACE that isnt racist.  there is some preconceived ideology from history past that only those of us that have white or pale skin can be racist.  when any other race is racist, some idiot (probably a journalist) thought up the term reverse-racism.  The author of this article states that calling somebody a foreigner is a racist….. what can we call foreigners?  Perhaps “Current inhabitants of New Holland that were born abroad”?  Nearly every country refers to foreigners, well as foreigners, I have never been offended being called something that I am while in another country, a foreigner – is it because I have white skin that I am not offended by being called something that I am?

    • Sam says:

      10:02am | 03/06/09

      I’m so sick of white Australians being called racist.  There is no proof that these attacks are race based yet it has been concluded by these protesters that it is and they are accusing white Australia to be racist because of it.  Isn’t that generalisation in itself racist.  Maybe I should protest everytime a white Australian is attacked by someone of a different race.  Opps sorry that would be racist wouldn’t it?  God forbid white people should say anything negative about anyone ever beause it would be decided that it was racist.  Why can’t my child sing Baa Baa Black sheep, call a black board a black board or make Easter and Christmas decorations at school anymore?  We’re all too scared incase we offend someone, so we bend over backwards to change our ways.  Yet we are called racists.

    • marty davidson says:

      10:02am | 03/06/09

      How can you be racist ...When you like the race !    Jerry Seinfield

    • tracey says:

      10:06am | 03/06/09

      Hmmm I guess our answer to this is ’  “Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?’. 

      Every cultural has racism, they just prefer to note others and not their own.

    • DM says:

      10:08am | 03/06/09

      I think the term “racist” means different things to different people.  You are implying that if someone points out that a person if from a different race then they are racist.  I disagree.  I think you are spot on that australians have a knock about honesty but that is in all things, not just race, and being honest isnt the same as being racist.  Yes there are racist people, but racism should be seen in actions rather than how we phrase terminology.  Most of my mates of Italian decent, I still call wogs, but its in the same terms I call all Collingwood supporters “Scum”.  Its not racism as the intent is not racist, but just giving a mate a ribbing.  As for the attacks on Indian students, a large percentage of Public transport users are “foreigners” or “new australians” to be politically correct, and so unless we catch the perpetrators and they admit it was racially motivated, I think its a fair strecth to assume that we are all racist because someone on public transport got bashed and that person, and there was a fair chance it was goig to be someone from India.  Bashings and knfing are happening all the time to people who are not Indian students, so assuming that because it has also happened to indian students I think was only a matter of time due to there being a large number of indian students in Melbourne rather than due the fact we are racist.

    • Bill Bunter says:

      10:11am | 03/06/09

      It is amazing how the white cant have names for non whites without offending mostly ‘whites’. They can call us whitey, casper, milkie, just to nam a few. This doesnt seem to be condemned as racism.
      I think we are all to fragile, to be racism I think it has to degrade or belittle and the manner which most Aussies do it is in jest or often eve admiration.
      I lived in the USA and with the recent Presidential elections happening you would be knocked over by the straight out racism. “Dont care who is running, I will never vote for a ???, you can work it out. This was in a bar and with no attemp to disquise it. This was a degrading statement and the manner it was said was also.
      I think we should all put things in perspective and lighten up a bit.

    • Jo says:

      10:17am | 03/06/09

      “I’m 23, and amongst my generation Wog isn’t, and never will be a racial term.”

      What an utterly utterly depressing statement.

      Brilliant article, well thought out, insightful and truthful.

    • Sal says:

      10:18am | 03/06/09

      David, I couldn’t agree more. Whenever I return to Australia after travelling I realise how much more intolerant we seem to be of those we call our neighbours. Recently a friend visited from Sweden and was horrified about the way we talk about Aborigines. I feel like we need to evolve as a country and realise that what makes us great is our diversity.

    • Kerrie says:

      10:24am | 03/06/09

      Conundrum - having lived and traveled all over the world…Australia is one of the best places on Earth…..and unfortunately one of the most intolerant.
      Intolerance and ignorance is rife!

    • Ben H says:

      10:24am | 03/06/09

      Is wanting to preserve tradition and heritage ‘racist’, or is that just another made-up PC world in a globalised, soon-to-be nationless world?

    • James says:

      10:25am | 03/06/09

      Racism has been embedded in our culture for too long to dismiss quietly.  It is fantastic that we can now raise this as a topic of concern.  Events such as the Australia Day upheaval in Manly recently and Cronulla riots of 2005 have shamed the nation and labeled us as red necked and ignorant. 

      However, we are progressing as a nation of mixed cultures and slowly but surely the mindset is being altered to one of acceptance.  I now sit in a workplace surrounded by friends with heritage from around the globe.  Equality is derived from experiences and exposure of their cultures and by understanding that their rights and capabilities are no different to mine. 

      David, I feel that your sweeping generalisation of Australians, from what seems to be a one off experience, has done very little to solve the problem of our flawed culture.  We are a progressive nation and a multicultural one.  As a powerful media man you may ask if your complexion alone would have prevented a level of success back in the 50’s regardless of clearly being talented and professional. 

      Sol can have his cake and eat it.  Nobody here wants ‘foreign’ control of a homegrown business, be it Telstra, Qantas or BHP….but get used to it as that can be a pro and con of globalisation.

    • James says:

      10:28am | 03/06/09

      How many times can an entire country be branded racist?  I think the best example of the complete paranoia on the topic of racism comes from my wife’s primary school classroom.  When reading storybooks containing black characters the kids accuse her of being racist, because she used the word “black”. It’s very hard for her to explain, to 8 and 9 year olds, that there is a difference between factually describing somone’s appearance and discriminating on the basis of race.

    • Paula says:

      10:29am | 03/06/09

      The irony of teh Chk Chk Bppm girl is that she isn’t Anglo herself, is she ? ‘Webeloff’ doesn’t sounds Anglo

    • John Greenfield says:

      10:39am | 03/06/09

      A useful way to think about this issue is to distinguish between ‘racialism’ and ‘racism’. ‘Racialism’ is any comment, attitude, or policy where ‘race’ is the main consideration. Except ‘racialism’ does not imply a hierarchy of ‘races’, it merely acknowledges their existence. Thus, multiculturalism is a ‘racialist’ policy in its more benign expressions, but often tips over into outright ‘racism’, especially against Anglo-Celts and other pale-face types.


      OTOH, ‘racism’ is the nasty one, which insists the ‘races’ can be ranked, and some are ‘inferior’ to others.


      So, I advocate celebrating ‘racialism’, where we all are at one time or another, a skip, a wog, a towelhead (my absolute favourite, by the way), a curry-muncher, a blackfella, a whitefella, a clog-wog, an amigo, etc.


      Are there no-go areas? You betcha. And they have nothing to do with ‘political correctness’. “Nigger” can never have anything other than a racist meaning that the black person is a lower form of life, fit only to be a slave. OTOH, ‘black’ does not have this connotation, nor does ‘blackfella’.


      The only way we can stop these interminable media articles about ‘racist Australians’ is to declare “We are one; but we are many - crackers, curry-munchers, skinny wogs, Yanks, poms, Frogs, krauts, Vietnamese balts -we are racialists; we are Australian!”

      The type who will resist this new Proudly Racialist Australian identity, are those paid six figure taxpayer-funded salaries to run the Multiculti and Aboriginal Industries.


      These types can be dealt with simply. Tell them to Get Stuffed, before closing down the Human Rights Commission.


      Bonza ideas, ay, cobbers?

    • Kim says:

      10:40am | 03/06/09

      Just a small minority of Aussies are true blue racists but its more ignorance of other cultures thats the problem. Some people spend their whole lives mixing with only their culture, they live in an area where their culture is predominant, they go to a school that is mainly their culture and they most likely work in a profession where its mainly their culture.

      I am an Aussie of English descent (back 2 generations) and I married a South African who is termed as coloured in his home country. My two kids are of mixed heritage now and its fantastic having that blend. I intend to send my kids to a school where there is that great cultural mix as they will learn so much from it so hopefully when they grow up they won’t be branded racist.

      I too ask people where they come from, out of pure interest in their background as I love learning about others cultural heritage and customs.

      The real problem is when you have cultural groups banding together to attack other groups, instead of having a natural blend. We are a peaceful country and any other country that lambasts our way of life is just jealous! The Cronulla riots were a disgusting disgrace and showed just how feral an insular community can be.

      To the culturally ignorant out there (from all races) get out and experience another culture, you will be surprised how fun it can be.

    • Ashley says:

      10:41am | 03/06/09

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m against ALL violence, racial or not but I think we have to put Australia’s so called racism into perspective. I’ve been in Australia for 35 years and still get called a Pom. My Wife is of Greek heritage and she still gets called a wog. The funny thing is we also say it to eachother too. I think people should lighten up with the way Australia says things, because it’s a lot more honest than other countries with a political correct “veneer.” Yes indeed there is the ugly (and real) side to Australia’s racism, which also exists in all other countries, anglo or not,  but our general taunts when used “affectionarely” are no more than that, and for dear ol’ Sol let me inform you, Far North Queenslanders call us all “Mexicans”, so get over it.

    • Rachel says:

      10:42am | 03/06/09

      The fact is, that whether or not Australians see themselves as racist, the rest of the world does. I came here from the UK five years ago and was astonished by the amount of overt racism directed at various minority groups.  Not only do I hear racism when talking with groups of people, I hear it on the radio, read it in newspapers; it is insidious and everywhere. I think the fact that it is so widespread is why Australians don’t realise it exists. It is perfectly accepted in mainstream culture, so they think it’s acceptable. Only the most extreme examples would raise any eyebrows.
      Australians are 15 years behind most other developed countries on this issue and yet, they don’t realise it and think it’s ok.
      Interestingly, they are also 15 years behind in sexual equality too, but I’m sure they’d deny that too.

    • Smokey says:

      10:44am | 03/06/09

      Racism implies dislike based on racial grounds. Piss taking generally implies the opposite, ie, making light of and highlighting differences in order to disarm the issue. Yes there are racists in australia, just like any country, but most people see it in the same good natured light.

    • Susie says:

      10:56am | 03/06/09

      i do believe we use racist like slang in our language when refering to other cultures, like wog, skips, poms, slantys etc but it is never usually said to hurt or insult anyone, just like when we get called names being aussies..we are a good mixed race of countrymen/women and will always be the first to smile, give a hand or genuinely show compassion and empathy to the person next to us or afar.
      it is the person hearing it and how they perceive it as to whether they take offence or not and react, in this case i would strongly suggest to nicely explain your situation, shake their hand or give a hug and hopefuly all will be forgiven. If this is not the case and there is real racism and anger used then the person using the racist language needs to be dealt with by the appropiate authorities by being reported. I would not suggest the person on the receiving end of the racism taunts aggravate it further as we have all read and know what tragic outcomes have happened.
      I personaly have never called anyone names but do know the typical aussie of ‘good character’ does not mean any harm… peace to you all!

    • Gwen says:

      10:56am | 03/06/09

      I have the same experience.  My mother is of asian descent, born in australia.  My father is white.  Every time I meet someone they ask me what country I’m from.  I think it’s about time that everyone actually recognised that Australia is a multicultural nation, that’s what is supposed to make us great. and just stop asking.  People can still be AUSTRALIAN and be of other ethnicities!!! So PLEASE stop asking “what is your nationality?”  Hopefully this then will seep into the more problematic forms of racism that exist.

    • Maxie says:

      11:06am | 03/06/09

      I’m 23, part Italian, and WOG is most certainly a racist term, when used is a degoratory way.
      It shits me to tears when people say that it’s not.
      The popular defence seems to be that people of European backgrounds refer to themselves as wogs nowadays, and so the term has been nutralised.
      That may be true to an extent, but many african americans use the term “nigger” to refer to themselves, does that mean anyone else can use it to describe them?
      Try it sometime… see what happens.

      Having said that, Penbo, i dsiagree that simply asking someone where they’re from is racist. It’s not.

    • Marc says:

      11:14am | 03/06/09

      No, Australia is not racist, but, yes, there is racism present (as in any country or culture, I suspect). The majority of Australians would be appalled at what has been done to various Indian students. And the Chk Chk Boom girl?... Are we really going to judge an entire country based on the comments of one attention-seeking bogan?

    • Scott says:

      11:17am | 03/06/09

      it’s terrible.  Sol’s thing was innocent.  But the bashings, that idiot girl, fat wog skinny wog thing, aussie pride and southern cross stickers on cars, tattoo’s on bogan arms.  it’s getting worse.

    • BC says:

      11:17am | 03/06/09

      This ‘opinion’ is racist. It’s not as simple as words it is more about meaning. If someone calls you a name specific to your race meant as an endearing nickname (even if you don’t like it) it still not racist. The term racist carries with it an implied negativity. I am a proud Aussie of mixed decent (though I look less Australian than Filipino) and I have never, not once had felt as though someone has been racist towards me in my 25 years in both central western NSW or the city in which I now live. It bothers me to think people might have to tip toe around being racist. If a cabbie calls you a curry muncher and you dont like it, dont answer Mitchell Park, tell him you don’t like it..

    • David says:

      11:17am | 03/06/09

      “The now-famous “fat wog, skinny wog” construction, coined by the Chk Chk Boomer, is predicated on the remarkably casual use of low-level racism in Australia, which has fuelled popular comedies ranging from Kingswood Country to Wogs Out of Work to Fat Pizza.

      It’s still racist though.”

      There’s a difference between ethnicity and race. It is not racist to call someone a wog. It may be offensive to people but you cannot label a term based on someones ethnicity as being racist. Do you consider calling someone a yank or a pom to be racist?

      By the way, it’s weak journalism to try and manufacture credibility by stating in your opening paragraph that you have three degrees. The article itself should display your credibility in talking about this subject, unfortunately it falls short.

    • Mutambo Kemba says:

      11:20am | 03/06/09

      I was born in Australia, but both of my parents are black and born in Africa.  Seeing as I’m an aussie now (I hope) ... does this mean im racist as well?  I’ve never done anything racist… not that I can remember anyway?  Or does the news article only apply to my white friends?  I don’t get it, what about my chinese background Australian friends, are they exempt as well?

    • Danny says:

      11:20am | 03/06/09

      One thing not being discussed here is CONTEXT. I call one of my coworkers ghandi (he is indian) and he refers to me as a convict. It is all in good fun. That is NOT racism. If I was calling Indians (whoem I do not know) curry munchers, ghandi, or whaver - that WOULD be racist, as they are not someone I know personally so I would have no right to do that.

      Also, if I am describing a situation to a friend, it is a lot easier to say ‘and the two people involved were wogs’, rather than ‘and the two people were of european appearance, perhaps italian, greek, maltese, or something’. I’m not going to spend an extra paragraph trying to be politically correct just for the sake of political correctness.

    • Jeremy says:

      11:21am | 03/06/09

      Lets not beat around the bush, in every country on this earth racism exists. In fact, those who have travelled the globe will tell you that we, as Australians in general are very tolerant. It is a part of human nature to discriminate, but it is how we deal with it that counts. I believe we in Australia in general deal with the issue relatively well, unlike other countries where racism a daily challenge.

    • Siobhan says:

      11:21am | 03/06/09

      I would love to meet the person who interviewed every single Australian to determine that the country, as a whole, is rascist. Of course there are rascist people in Australia, just as there are in every country. Rascism exists within every culture and I can guarantee you it is never one-sided. Every damn race has a sector that thinks itself superior to every other damn race. The trick is, to not give these obnoxious factions the media coverage they crave.

    • david says:

      11:24am | 03/06/09

      I came here as a kid in 91 and to be honest i don’t think Australia is a racist country, i was actually surprised how receptive to other cultures it truly is but then again, I didn’t utilize the DOLE nor do i speak my own language in public as i truly think it’s an insult. No offense to other “wogs” or asians talking loud in your own language everywhere is not “cool”, it diminishes your capability to learn English.

      I have introduced Australians to my culture specially food (I’m European) and drinks and Aussies loved it!

      Yes there are huge cultural differences but it defines you as an Australian. How? By cultivating your gray matter to think outside the square.

      I think everyone has a little racist template built in by default. Problem is some people don’t know how to deal with it and make it a part of their life.

    • Daiden says:

      11:24am | 03/06/09

      I guess the old saying, “you can’t make everyone happy” will always win out when it comes to political correctness. From my perspective, it is not what is said, but what’s behind the words. The words in themselves are empty vehicles of meaning, simple messengers of communication.

      I travel a lot, experience what it is to be the foreigner a lot, which is a humbling experience in my view, where I need to make the effort to meet the other on there ground, where they are comfortable in their culture. Out of it I’ve learnt that is something that holds everywhere, even here in Aus, which is my home turf. I do ask the question regularly, “where are you from?”. It is not racist, simply a way of opening a line of communication to know the others story, where there from, what brought them to this point.

      It’s a very human thing, ignorance, the tendency to see others as we imagine them, projecting a myriad of our own social and societal conditionings that influence whether we accept, or reject the other, or the experience arising from our interaction.

      I guess what I’m alluding to is, it is a greater issue than simply an Australian one. No culture is above it, as any moral high ground simply gives rise to the arrogance of pride and again the same pattern of “better than”, which automatically presumes that someone else is “lower than”.

      Trying to nail the greater issue down to being a problem of someone not liking Indians, or another race, is missing the point altogether.

    • Anna Synick says:

      11:25am | 03/06/09

      Australians are racist - having lived here for 13 years now people still find it necessary to comment on my accent (even though it’s very slight, and they can perfectly well understand me), asking ‘when are you going back…’. Other comments include that my husband is a ‘Pom’, and immigrants take jobs away from Australians. I don’t think on the whole Australians intend to insult, but they don’t realise it might be upsetting to some people.

      Having said that, I love living here and so will take the Australian attitude as part of the parcel - if I really couldn’t stand it anymore I’d pack up and go somewhere else. I’ve also lived in Asia for a few years and people there are incredibly racist too - and more openly than in the west where it is considered politically incorrect.

      It’s part of the human psyche to be racist, to view others not like them with a certain amount of suspicion - after all, what’s easier than to pick on, or blame, the person who is so obviously not like you. This goes for every race, and every community on earth. As the recession gets worse, watch people start hating each other even more. It’s already happening in the US, where local people who can’t find a job are all of a sudden fighting the poor Latin American immigrants for jobs such as fruit picking, working in the slaughterhouse, and other such jobs that they didn’t want to touch at all when times were better.

    • Cam says:

      11:28am | 03/06/09

      It is easy for people that are not on the receiving end think that it is not a big deal and it is part of society. I was born in apartheid, so I know about racism and how it cuts deep to the soul. My dad, the most gentlest and kindest man in the world, walks into a shop one day, and the shop assitant tells whispers to the customer to hold her bag closer as my dad works pass. Pauline Hanson, still has followers. The sad thing though is that I found the most racist comments in New Zealand and Australia. 

      To really understand what it is to be on the receiving maybe a seminar with Jane Elliot will help you understand. She uses the blue-eyed/brown-eyed” exercise. It is an eye opener.

      Remember we all are the same on the inside.

    • David says:

      11:28am | 03/06/09

      I’ve been called nicknames and things that “make light” of everything from physical appearance to where I live. I’ve also been given racist labels, often from the same people. It is most definately NOT the same.

      To cease using the word, “black” or to prevent Christmas ceremonies is not the same as asking people to stop calling me a Gook in the street. It’s not the same as preventing people from asking me, “how’s life in widescreen”.

      And it’s most definately not the same as asking people to stop throwing bottles at me from passing cars or assuming things based on the colour of my skin.

      These are well-educated Australians from a range of backgrounds. GPS private schoolers, Westies and country-kids. They know it’s insulting, yet they continue to do it. I still find myself occasionally ignored by service staff at restaurants and often get strange looks and nasty treatment from bus drivers and ticket inspectors.

      Of course people of non Anglo-Saxon backgrounds are often also racist, but that doesn’t make it acceptable either.

      Think about it like this. If everyone you meet makes only one joke at the expense of your race, then you can expect racism several times on a daily basis. Non-Anglo-Saxon Australians will never understand the degrading feeling ethnic Australians get from this treatment.

      The predominate argument appears to be, “it happens everywhere, so why should we be different?”

      It is irrelevant to say that Australia has the same level of racism as other nations. How would people respond to politicians that say, “We have the same murder rate as India, China and Lebanon, so why should we bother improving it?”

      Very few Australians with ethnic backgrouds are arguing that Australia is the most racist nation on earth. We just hope that there will be efforts to reduce it. Is that such an unreasonable request?

    • Saskia says:

      11:29am | 03/06/09

      There is nothing wrong with racism.  It is simply human nature to discern differences.  Violence, abuse and discrimination are the real issues.  Racism is a complete non-issue.

    • Chuck says:

      11:32am | 03/06/09

      I wouldn’t say majority of Aussies are racist, but a lot of us can be insensitive towards another culture.
      I half agree with the earlier comment of “I’m 23, and amongst my generation Wog isn’t, and never will be a racial term.”, the term is used so much that it has pretty much lost any racist impact it once had, although it does depend on the way the word is used. Also to older generations and visitors to our country I can easily see why you could get offended by being called a ‘Wog’, or percieve someone as being racist for using the term.

    • Ken says:

      11:37am | 03/06/09

      So everyone is now realising that Australia has a large element of racist views and attitudes. Hello….! As an Aboriginal male growing up in this country I know this b%llsh&t has been around for centuries. The good thing is there are Australians out there who don’t stand for it. Racism is based on ignorance and we can change this through education. Racism is like violent behaviour towards women and children, if we say nothing about it it will continue. To stop racism we as individuals must say to anyone with a racist view that we do not accept it. Don’t ask what the government or community groups are doing about racism, ask yourself what you are doing.

    • Mark Walker says:

      11:38am | 03/06/09

      I agree with Samir.. to suggest the whole country is racist based on the minority that are, is in itself racism. I do agree that far too many here are racist but they dont speak for all of us. Australia is one of the most multicultural countries in the world, I myself am in a mixed-racial relationship. Racism happens all over the world.. A little quip or friendly insult is just part of australian nature.. curry-muncher etc.. wog.. its all in friendship but instead of taking offence.. give it back. We expect it and will laugh it off, and except insult defeat if its better. As for the indian bashing atm.. that is racist and the vast majority of people here do not condone it. Unfortunately in this time of terrorism, there are far too many ingorant people out there who have misdirected anger. They are more stupid than racist. Judge a person, not a country.

    • timbo says:

      11:39am | 03/06/09

      Though I agree in large part with your article, and applaud the fact that you’re one of the few journalists who’s taken the dimwitted chk chk boom girl to task for her ethnic slurs, the fact you consider her comments to be low grade material is pretty offensive to say the least. Is this because it isn’t as bad in your eyes as some of the jibes thrown at those from the Indian subcontinent - in your eyes?

      For what it’s worth, I grew up in an era in Australia - the 60s’ and 70’s - when the backlash against southern Europeans was at its worst, given the huge impact they’d made on the country via their vast numbers and the way they’s shaken the old anglo foundations of Australia to their very core. That’s what happens when your government inititiaes and open door policy to try and bolster the economy and the nation’s security. The result?  I grew up in an era when it was total anthema to have a Greek or Italian surname, when Australian kids would sneer and spit at you for being a ‘greasy wog’, when you would do all that you could to hide your last name for fear that you’d be dropped like a hot potato by new friends who’d assumed you were ‘one of them’. You know what it’s like to have people shy away from touching you, or have you touch them, bcause of you might pass your ‘greasy skin’ on to them? It was an appalling time, and it followed me through to my adult years to the extent where I’d get a hard time from bosses or supervisors who’d take full advantage of their posotions to wax rhapsodic about wogs and their numerous deficiencies.s. I even had one susupervisor try and have me sacked because of his dislike for wogs. That was enough for me. I ended up changing my name by deed poll, harking to my mother’s side of the family to give myself an acceptable anglo name. From then on I was one o fthe boys thanks to throwing the alphabet up in the air and coming down with something far more acceptable. The irony of listening to these same morons over the years waffling on about ‘our’  deficiencies, whilst one oof the sat amongst their ranks, was about as funny as it could get.

    • Nath says:

      11:39am | 03/06/09

      This is a great piece of journalism.  In terms of racism, i agree with Paul, you can say something to a mate that is a derogatory term but if its not said in an insulting manner its not racism.  Such as when Prince Harry called his army mate a “Paki’.  This isn’t racism.  Harry is probably called a ‘ginga’ by the same guy.  Dont be too precious mate.  If its not used in an insulting or demeaning manner, its not racism.

    • Bill says:

      11:41am | 03/06/09

      I have travelled the world. I’ve lived in Beijing, been to China three times, Japan, the US and much of Europe and I can assure you that racism is everywhere. The differece with Australians is that we are not as restrained as other cultures and our sense of humour is a little irreverent. I am White so my experience may be different but as I have said I have been a minority before as well and the racism I experienced in China was more incideous. We need to accept that no matter where you are in the world if you are not a local you will encounter racism in many forms. We Australians have our problems but we are angels compared to most other places.

    • Pegson says:

      11:42am | 03/06/09

      I think people mistake racism and political correctness…

      To say Wog, Abbo, white boy or watever is not racist its politically incorrect…

      Plus any culture that allows one to use a word and tha when said by another culture is called racist is actually racist themselves..

      This is racism you cant do this because your black or because your white..

      not the fat wog shot the little wog…Thats just politically incorrect.. And we aint all politicians….

    • First Geoff of Sydney says:

      11:45am | 03/06/09

      I would be less racist if the non-australians left the country

    • Jimbo says:

      11:46am | 03/06/09

      We still hold the unique distinction of being the only developed country in the world to be declared racist, by the UN,  under Howard.  But that’s the trouble with facts… they tend to spoil a good debate.

    • Jye says:

      11:47am | 03/06/09

      This issue really angers me!

      I totally agree we like to take the piss out of foreigners (and ourselves) but generally that’s where it stops. How can a country as multicultural as ours really be racist?

      Any countries who think this really need to take a long hard look at themselves and their actions.

      You don’t see Australians starting riots over sporting matches with foreign countries, waging war on our neighbours, exlcuding people from venues based on the colour of their skin or murdering rival gangs on our streets.

      Go to any country in the world and I bet you can find Aussie leading the way with their friendly attitudes and accepting mentalities.

    • Muz says:

      11:47am | 03/06/09

      Let me tell you how Racist Australia is. There are people form overseas that are willing to leave loved ones behind, risk their lives crossing great distance of ocean in overcrowded, unsafe vessels - just for a chance to live here.  Most people who imigrate here never go back to their homeland. 

      Wow, we must be a country of racists.

    • Brendan Maclean says:

      11:52am | 03/06/09

      Fantastic article.

      To those defending themselves, read closer, it’s not an attack. It’s already happening and really can’t be refuted,

    • Proud to be aussie & 6 other cultures says:

      11:53am | 03/06/09

      All I took out of this story was that Aussies were essentially politically incorrect (and to be honest, I’m sick of PC do-gooders). By definition, racism is “a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others” (dictionary.com). Besides the idiot you came across in the pub, the casual use of terms such as wog or skip hasn’t implied any hatred at all but rather a vernacular that is part of the Aussie culture. These terms have lost their original meaning over time & are no longer taken as insults (except to foreigners & travellers – let me see how many people take this last comment as “racist”). Australia should have these features specified within Lonely Planet & other travel guides as terms not meant to be taken as insults (the same way that Australian’s are told not to point with the feet in Thailand).

      As someone that has origins in at least 6 cultures, I do tire from having to explain “where I’m from” even though I was born & bred in Australia. I don’t however take the questioner as being “racist”. To do so would indicate that I was too insecure in myself & somewhat ashamed of my heritage. I’m not overly sensitive to the question, unlike others who have spoken out. Obviously the questioner is just curious as to how I got my Asian features with my European skin & is stumped as to where my parents are from!

    • Rob says:

      11:56am | 03/06/09

      Brilliant Article - some great comments here - I totally agree with Ken (10:37am)

      “Racism is based on ignorance and we can change this through education. Racism is like violent behaviour towards women and children, if we say nothing about it it will continue. To stop racism we as individuals must say to anyone with a racist view that we do not accept it. Don’t ask what the government or community groups are doing about racism, ask yourself what you are doing”.

    • Katherine says:

      12:02pm | 03/06/09

      I totally agree! Australians seem to pride themselves on ‘saying it as it is’. What they don’t seem to realise is that that jibing humour hurts feelings.I don’t necessarily think that it is racism as we are all at the brunt of it. But people don’t realise when they have gone too far for the other person. I am a white anglo saxon Australian of several generations but I have had the pleasure of living in many places around the world and currently live in Singapore which is very multicultural. It works here because they accept and learn about each others’ ways and beliefs. I think that Australians generally need to learn more about the fascinating cultures that make Australia such an interesting place and to think more before they say things. If it hurts the feelings of the recipient - it is appropriate.

    • James says:

      12:05pm | 03/06/09

      Scott says:
      I’ve thought about it. The Australian Culture should not change to make others feel more comfortable. We are an accepting and loving country who embraces our multiculture society. One of the most peaceful countries in the world being slagged for being racist amuses me. I wonder what dirt we could dig up about our accusers country? I suspect there’d be alot worse.
      ___________________________________________________________

      ACCEPTING, Embrace our miltucultural society… do you watch the news Scott??? how about reading this article… try telling international students that this is an accepting country, after they have been beaten up walking home from uni because of what they look like. I agree there are worse countries… but the issue at hand here is the denial of the australian people stemming from the very top. Case in point Scott.

    • Marbo says:

      12:07pm | 03/06/09

      When we (Angl Saxons) first emigrated here 6 years ago, we were astounded at how casually racist comments came from the mouths of some of the (Anglo) Australians we met.  In addition, there seems to be no cognisance of the long term damaging consequences of the various forms of “hate speech” (to use an extreme term for it) that pepper our daily vernacular.  For example “it’s/he’s/she’s so gay”.  Detractors would call this harmless, but countless studies have shown that casually denigrating a minority, even in fun, entrenches and supports extremist and negative polarisation of societies.  Australia is so diverse and cosmpolitan, which is something to be celebrated; something we should be very proud of.  Thanks for this thought-provoking article.

    • Jonathan says:

      12:07pm | 03/06/09

      People everywhere are racist.  The problem is that in Australia, we demonstrate our racism through agression, and sometimes violence.

    • SteveL says:

      12:08pm | 03/06/09

      I think the correct term is “realists”. Australians are entitled to their own opinions and if they dont like someone or disagree with something someone does who isnt Australian does that mean they are racist? What about foreigners who come to live in our country and display absolute disregard towards Australian value systems and expect us to alter our views to accomodate them- Is that not racism? Look at the crime statistics in proportion to Australians vs non australian.. Enough said

    • DavidM says:

      12:08pm | 03/06/09

      Spot on Muz, Australia must me such a bad place to live!  David, your logic re the drunk guy and the GST was good, your delivery was stupid.  Why would you try to argue logic with an abusive drunk?  How about try to defuse the situation.  Abusive drunks, however wrong they are, don’t want to be made to look like a fool.  Maybe three degrees doesn’t necessarily mean you have some of the common sense that others have.  Why do academics always feel the need to sprout before saying their opinion? As far as racism goes I think Australia is doing well across the board.  We have an incredible mix of race and religion yet very few horrific incidents of racism.  Some of the jibes by friends could be classified as racism however is that how they are intended?  People say things to stir others, it’s an Australian trait.  I for instance I am a balding, slightly chubby skip.  Does that bother me?  No, I just need some time of the treadmill.  Being a skip doesn’t either.  I can happily say I am an Aussie.  Some people need to be a little less sensitive whilst others need to be a little more.  However, as a whole, I think the country is doing pretty good.

    • John says:

      12:10pm | 03/06/09

      I’m an Australian born with Asian descent and I do have to say rascism does exist in this country, however it is of a very small minority. I enjoy my cold beers on a regular basis with workmates of all sorts of backgrounds and fit in with no issues at all.

      On a more social level however, I do feel like most tend to stick with people from their own heritage out of comfort. When you deal with people with the same cultural background and values, you don’t have to explain to people why you act a certain way, you don’t have to explain why your parents brought you up a certain way and most importantly, you don’t have to feel like you are different.

      For the most part I don’t think anglo-saxens are racist, but I must say that many have stereo-typical views which do make the minorities feel uncomfortable about their heritage. It may only be “curiosity” to some, but often a questioning of someone’s culture and the way they do things only succeed in making that person feel isolated, small and different. It is small things like this which anglo-saxens never have to deal with and hence are blinded to.

      At the same time, I dont think it is acceptable to have things like “Go back to your own country” or “Look at these bloody tourists” yelled out to me which has definitely happened to me in the past.

    • chloe says:

      12:10pm | 03/06/09

      to quote miki runi :
      “yeah scott, be proud of being an aussie, why should these *foreigners* (non anglos) change the way we do things aropound here like our famous cronella riots or idolising the chk chk boom girl, meat pies (so australian they come from europe) and lets not forget our mateship (what ever that is), and being australian (whatever that is). Why should these *foreigners* make us change our ways… but tell me this scott is a second generation “leb” a aussie or a wog? is an aborigional an aussie or an abbo? why is it that only ango people are aussies? “wogs” came here to build the country and work their asses off, anglos came here to colonise and inflict genocide. Dont tell me it was the wogs that had the white australia policy or implemented the stolen generation policy…. it was the so called “aussies”

      an aussie is any person that has enough respect for this country to call themselves so…

      if you take a hard look around you will realise that really, 9 times out of 10, the separation of ethnicity comes from each individual culture….

      and that no matter where in the world you live, the same thing occures..

      IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AUSTRALIA - IT HAS TO DO WITH THE HUMAN RACE

    • Steve Krikstolaitis says:

      12:11pm | 03/06/09

      I am obviously from an ethnic background, first generation Australian.  I’ve been called “wog” all my life, my nickname is “the ethnic one”.  I take no offence at this, and quite happily introduce myself to people as the “ethnic one’.  The only time I take offence is when the terms are used in a way that is meant to cause offence.  Aussies have a very open and candid way of speaking.  It should be seen as refreshing after listening to all the political correctness “speak”, I find that type of talk insulting, the person speaking is not really being honest.  They want to use the language of the Aussie but hide behind the PC language. 
      As a “white” Australian I find it offensive that only people of anglo-saxon backgrounds can be racist - that in itself is racist.  And I find that offensive.

    • Greg says:

      12:12pm | 03/06/09

      Let’s look for a country that does not hold some sort of racism. China v Japan, India v Pakistan, England v Ireland, Lebanon v Israel, Zimbabwe v white Africans, South Africa v Black Africans, China v Tibet, Islam v Christian and how many people have made comments about Americans over the years. The amount of people in the media who have made comments attacking America is massive. If they made the same comment about India or Japan or Indonesia would be classed as racist but for some reason you can be racist against some countries but not others.

    • simon. says:

      12:14pm | 03/06/09

      A description of someone is not offensive. An elderly, gay, black, catholic man with one arm is just that. Judging or abusing him in any way is the real issue here - it’s all about intent.

    • Tony K says:

      12:15pm | 03/06/09

      SteveL I think yor forgetting when so called “Australians” came to Australia they displayed more than just disregard for the ABORIGONAL value system (the true Australians of this land)...so unless you are Aborigonal yourself you have no right to point the fingerr yourself

    • Tane says:

      12:16pm | 03/06/09

      I wouldn’t say Australians see ourselves as racist, because we seem to use a different definition of the word to most other countries. I would never look at someone and think “they’re a (insert ethnic group) which means (insert generic stereotype here)”. People are people, each one’s different. But at the same time, there’s nothing wrong with admitting and embracing cultural differences - A ‘wog’ (in our local usage) is a person of Italian, Greek, or Lebanese etc. ancestry. Doesn’t make them better or worse than me, it’s just a simple way to describe their cultural background.

      Other countries, especially America, seem to think that any acknowledgement at all that we’re not all identical cardboard cutouts is somehow racism. It’s possible to be different but still equally valid and valuable, maybe one day the rest of the world will realise this too.

    • Chris says:

      12:17pm | 03/06/09

      is it valid to say that complaining about Aussie racism is racist against Aussies? I think this article also treads a fine line. Aussies may be a little too honest in the things they say. Dont people call us Aussies “Skip”. I think there are a lot of people that thrive on being a victim. I am very much against violence (either physicle or mental) but we all need to be a shade tougher. Society gives us too many opportunities to cry and moan over things that just dont matter in the long run.

    • Jayne says:

      12:19pm | 03/06/09

      Racism doesn’t necessarily imply violence. Racism could be the way you describe that drunk guy as that ‘drunk aboriginal guy’ when you wouldn’t say ‘that drunk white australian guy’. It could be the way I used drunkness and an aboriginal person as my example. We’re all guilty of small acts of racism, and we should try hard not to make assumptions based on skin colour or appearance.

    • Kelly says:

      12:19pm | 03/06/09

      Being an Australian with Aussie born parents, 3 out of 4 grandparents Aussie born, and an Aboriginal great grandmother, you could say I’m pretty darn Australian.

      I didn’t think Australia was racist until I converted to Islam and started to wear a head covering.  I have been driving down the freeway, walking down the street, been in my own office building and copped abuse.  Yes, there are many many accepting Aussies in this country, many wonderful people.  But, I can guarantee you, racism and xenophobia are spread wide and far in this country.

      Muz, just a note on why people risk their lives to migrate to this wonderful country of ours.  Would you prefer to cop an earful of racism every now and then, or have to pay back the government for the bullet that they just used to shoot your brother?  If you were guaranteed death in your own country, but had just a shot at freedom in another, which would you choose?  It’s not “chance to live here” (Muz), it’s simply a chance to live.

      Life is hard enough for everyone.  We have bills to pay, jobs to go to, mouths to feed.  How about we take time to say hi to our neighbour rather than abuse them for being of a different race or religion.  People complain about migrants not wanting to assimilate to the Aussie way of life.  If I was a migrant, copping the abuse that I get, I wouldn’t want to assimilate either.  Be nice, people.  You’ll be amazed at how different things could be.

    • Ash says:

      12:21pm | 03/06/09

      I’ve found that the only time someone brings up my race derogatorily its when they have nothing else to challenge me with. If i have a better job/home/family life/car/education or am winning an argument then they will use the “race” issue to make themselves feel superior…and hey..you can have that! I’d rather have the rest!

    • Glenn says:

      12:23pm | 03/06/09

      This article is very good. I like it and to be honest, Im proud of the Australian ‘openly little bit racist’ attitudes of many. I dont view it as a negative thing. I tease my vietnamese friends about eating dogs…....as does my greek mate. My vietnamese mate gets in on it and recently said my new puppy looked ‘tasty’. I laughed and told him to stay away from little Archie. I tease my greek buddy about hooking up with a hairy european chick and they tease me about being a beer swilling yobbo. Its this attitude that makes australia and all my buddies so great. I dont want politically correctness to dictate what we can and cant say to each other.

      I think we need to start defining racism differently. I mean, my gf is chinese and Ive been to chinese restaraunts with her where the staff gave me a fork and her chopsticks. Now technically, thats racist towards both of us…..we were judged and treated differently based on our racial appearance. But there is no malice in it and its fine. Similarly, the chk chk boom gal. There was no malice in that. Wogs Out of Work and the Wog Boy also contain no malice but rather create humour surrounding stereotypes. Not that dissimilar from the old crocodile dundee movies when you think about it.

      I should be allowed to say asians are bad drivers just as I should be allowed to say short people dont make good basketballers or the chk chk boom chick is a bogan. Maybe its all true, maybe none of it is, but there is no malice in any of it so I dont see the problem.

      Oh, whilst Im at it. I love impersonating indian accents and even get the head wobble into it and try my best at irish accents from time to time too. Is that racist? I wouldnt have thought so.

      I just think the country has bigger things to worry about than labelling us as racists or not.

    • Kristian says:

      12:25pm | 03/06/09

      I wonder what, really is racism?  I’ve a good friend of mine I met in boarding school in Yr 7.  He was born here, his parents, very wealthy, fled China to come here.  However, he speaks Chinese all the time.  His English is quite poor, yet he was born and raised here.

      He’s just never bothered to learn English.  He personally owns well over a dozen investment properties, and only associates with Chinese people.  He works in a Chinese business, only serving Chinese people.  Apart from the few of us who went out of our way to protect him at boarding school (I took numerous beatings keeping him out of trouble) he doesn’t have any ‘Aussie’ friends.

      Yet I certainly wouldn’t call him racist.  He’s a mate I care about deeply.  We go riding together, and watch Asian movies (English subs rock!) and he cooks amazing meals for me.  He absolutely refuses not to cater for me.

      Yet, despite the 12-13 years since we left school, every time I go to his workplace to meet him all conversation stops and people stare at me.  A few of the long timers greet me but 80% of the workers shut up and stare.

      You know what, I don’t mind it.  Because, I’m secure enough in myself that I don’t have any issue with peoples’ freedom to choose who they associate with.  Or what language they choose to use.  I don’t look for racism under every rock; I’m not out there judging every single person under a microscope looking for their ‘racism’.

      Yet that’s what’s happening to any of us Aussies who look remotely Anglo.  Even my Russian/Serb/Polish mates get tarred as ‘racist Anglos’.

      The point being, those who are subjecting us to minute scrutiny for racism all the time, they are the racists.  It’s on their minds ALL THE TIME.  All of my mates have far better things to think about than being racist.  It’s the last thing on our minds unless some eggshell-skinned racist themselves accuses us of it.

      And here you are, writing an article about racism, being racist yourself.

    • Ray says:

      12:25pm | 03/06/09

      Cronulla.

    • david of sydney says:

      12:28pm | 03/06/09

      Im a first gen aussie. I have seen it from both sides of the fence given I am white and not really discernible given my race has a heavy aryan influence. My friends were predominantly white and “aussie” mix of the uk area’s mostly. I wasn’t a “wog” to them. Infact they only referred to “lebs” and middle eastern read “arabs” as “wogs” and only seemed to have bad things to say when the over representation of large groups of predominantly young lebs (we knew them from high school, they were infact lebonese) in our area were harrasing every other group in some way or another depending on its capability to fight back. Typical group mentality I guess not reserved to lebs just over represented in my area. The same types you have seen all over sydney I guess depending on the ethnicity prevelant in your area. Groups band together for various reasons usually due to sharing something in common.

      I come from a suburb which is predominantly or almost exclusively “anglo” so this element may have been even more noticeable. It was generally known that at any event these groups seemed to be at anti-social behavoir toward everyone seemed to occur. This isn’t the case in their originating countries however as they would be castrated (obviously not literally) by their own families for not acting correctly and showing the proper politeness.

      Where did these morals and attitudes go once they have emigrated to this country? If I am expected to follow the rules there in that country, why do they not feel the same here? I guess our societies rules do not apply because our society doesn’t enforce them sufficiently. We don’t spit on women for not wearing the correct clothing, (though I could point you at a certain few suburbs where this is done in sydney) and do not band together and give a good natured beating for not complying with our societies rules. That is something to bring up in parliament. I guess given the potential for abuse would prevent the corporal punishment from getting through. I should state I believe in corporal punishment as distinct from capital punishment which I do not.

      Either way, racism is prevalent in every society as it is a natural prejudice born into people inherited from days of old where the neighboring tribe was to be feared. It seems only people of education get around it and move on in my experience and in those cases they do not seem to usually be anti social in any race.

      Does this mean only ignorant un educated people are racists. It is my thorough belief that it must be. My wife is a dark skinned muslim women, we both have been to university, are both professionals in our fields. Either of us from both sides of our families and friends have never experienced racism from anyone who is not an ignorant twat.

      The world is not made up of educated people and thus we suffer the slack jawed nonsense from every level.

      The article does appear to supply an understanding of the nature of australian humour, taking everyone down a peg and taking the piss, gentle good natured humour usually with a point toward the serious and offensive issues to allow them to be broached perhaps and not feared. Not many aussies have the patience to dance around a point so it’s hard to not poke fun at someones insecurities, the aussie way. get a rise out of your buddy, tease him for what pisses him off… the racist would come out with it purely to offend a stranger.

    • John of Lombok says:

      12:29pm | 03/06/09

      It’s human nature to want to categorise everything, animals, plants, vegatables, fruit, bananas, whatever. So when you get a mixing pot of culture in Australia, it is inevtable that names get flung about, but like David says in his article in an Australian matey way. Guess what? It’s not confined to Australia. I live in Indonesia, westerners are called bule here, chinese are called chi or koh, people from the other side of the island are referred to as outsiders! After wide travels I see Australia in the racially tolerant category (see categories again), but with a freindly way of describing people. Even indigenous Australian from the Kimberley have a term for westerners garia (not sure of spelling) which means white dog! So I think this is human nature, not Australian. We are categorists…not racist (as a whole)

    • Tony K says:

      12:30pm | 03/06/09

      So many peop-le here are still in denial in racism..ive witnessed racism on a constant basis growing up…so many of use claim its jsut a minority and all of Australia cant be called racist over a few comments…FUNNY THING when a few Middle Eastern idiots (wont even lebanese) commited a few gang rapes all of a sudden all of Austraila viewed every Lebanese person as a rapist…..yet if 1 person is racist it dosnt mean australia is racist

    • CC says:

      12:30pm | 03/06/09

      We accept large numbers of migrants every year from a wide range of backgrounds. Despite this practice - which would be deemed stupid in most other countries - we have very little race-related violence involving the wider community. Ironically, there’s plenty of race-related violence between some of the migrant groups themselves. Sadly, I suspect we become more racist with every new boat load of racist, uneducated 3rd world migrants we accept.

      Ofcourse racism exists, but I don’t think racism can be ‘cured’ by education. Look at the author. He claims to have 3 degrees and yet exhibits all the signs of a typical racist - making broad generalisations based on very narrow experience.

      Now we enter an even more extreme phase of political correctness where simply asking a person where they’re from is deemed ‘racist’.

      Labor has been back in power for how long?

    • Sarah says:

      12:31pm | 03/06/09

      Lets not take ourselves too seriously, I think every country/nationality is a little racist and we all need to acknowledge that.

      Lets just consider the fact that how you react to a given word gives it meaning… by reacting you are actually handing over power to the person who has stated the term… and if this person has stated this with vindictive intent then you have given him exactly what he wants.

      At the end of the day how you behave in these or any situations will represent who you are more than any descriptive words.

    • ben langford says:

      12:34pm | 03/06/09

      I love comments like those from Scott, who sees no contradiction in these two lines:
      “The Australian Culture should not change to make others feel more comfortable. We are an accepting and loving country who embraces our multiculture society.”
      I remember when I lived in Sydney and listened to a lot of Stan Zemanek; his callers would say: “Australia’s the most tolerant country in the world. Those reffo’s should get back on the boat.”
      Doesn’t accepting mean accepting?
      Top yarn David.

    • steve says:

      12:35pm | 03/06/09

      yeah but its not just restricted to us

      most australians swear at each other and call each other names , try to find a crack. it is the Aussie way.  ... any area you think will get millage. i work in many countries and i can tell you , insults for jokes are uniquely australian. most cultures just get offended.

      certainly dont think we are uniqely racist….maybe more obvious about it

    • leslie says:

      12:35pm | 03/06/09

      good article.

    • stephen jones says:

      12:35pm | 03/06/09

      I don’t think we are racist. The irony - or maybe this is the tragedy - is racism is incurred under the auspices of a veil of protectionism of one’s own culture. Our culture is too weak to warrent us, then racists, though we do have very, very ...VERY… bad manners.

    • Hebs says:

      12:38pm | 03/06/09

      I totally agree with the article.  People are openly racist and believe there is nothing wrong with it.  My friend who is of Aboriginal background even gets asked where he comes from because he isn’t white.  It is really insulting.

    • AC says:

      12:40pm | 03/06/09

      The term ‘wog’ may have been offensive in the 50’s back during the massive migration of Italians to Australia. Nowadays, it’s something people of Italian background call themselves and others like them. Its an identity thing. After all, it’s just a word. Words themselves aren’t typically insulting, it’s the malice and attitude by the person who says it. I graduated an all girls’ school 2 years ago and currently studying at university. In high school, there was “the wog group”, a term self-coined, and a label of pride. To be a wog was something they held in esteem (even so far as to maybe consider themselves better than Anglo-Saxons or other backgrounds). In the case of the ‘Chk chk boom’ girl, it is obvious she wasn’t being racist, which would be to show prejudice towards someone of a certain race. She was just identifying them. If you saw two men fighting of African descent, and were reporting on what you saw (particularly in a police statement) it would be stupid if someone were to say “I saw two men fighting..” and leave out their nationality. In identifying suspects, every descriptive point counts. Skin colour is akin to eye colour, hair colour etc. We are all born with it. If I were to be offended because someone pointed out that my eyes were green, or my skin is white, how can I be offended?

    • Garry says:

      12:40pm | 03/06/09

      I enjoyed and compliment the article. It is a true and accurate representation that no doubt many ‘foreigners’ have encountered. I have personally been told to ‘go home if I do not like it’ by people who were not even born when I arrived therefore I have been in Australia longer than them – go figure. I am appalled by how WE Australian’s have become intolerant of people coming here and are doing their bit for this country, including paying taxes, serving in our military, our emergency services etc through to the unglamorous jobs all wanting to have a great life in a great land.  I have worked, travelled around the world, and researched the subject and yes, Racism in many forms appears in many countries but they are not Australia, not our country. If we use the excuse that ‘well they do it so why don’t we’ it is an awful excuse, we are better if we are different than the rest. I am a Whinging POM, and although I think the term is now outdated and over used still many call me a whinging POM despite being an Australian Citizen of many years now just because I suppose my accent is not ‘Australian’.  Maybe I do still accept it as a larrikin humour, maybe I should not, as it is aiding the continuation of intolerance but have that debate with an Australian and I bet you I will get, ‘It’s only humour get over it’ or ‘Well if you don’t like it you know where the airport is….’ My case is mild to some of the intolerance I have heard, cringed and complained about, some said out of humour, some out of drunken humour, some said out of hatred, maybe we should be less tolerant. Australia is truly a multicultural country which is far different than manner other countries and as such a multicultural society should not allow such abuse.

    • Kat says:

      12:41pm | 03/06/09

      Good article - I think it hit the issue right on the head.  The thing is, Australians often create jokes around perceived differences.  Its the way we define other people to us, and the way we relate (or differentiate from them).  By noting their difference - whether in jest and fun, or all seriousness.  Unfortunately, race is usually a very visual difference, so it tends to come out more than others - but don’t make the mistake of thinking that Australians are limited to joking about that.

      As for the more serious issues of targeted violence against ethnic groups, etc.  Yes, this can also happen in Australia - as regrettable as it may be - and should not be considered a part of the Australian psyche that you discuss in this article.  This type of racism is also, as you rightly say, not limited to Australia.  Ethnic/Racial violence exists everywhere.  Europe, Africa, Asia, North and South America.  I think, though, Antartica may be exempt. wink

    • LL says:

      12:42pm | 03/06/09

      Yes we are racist, we are even racist against each other…  I have a very obvious O-apostrophe, Irish surname, I get comments on my Irish heritage all the time even though I’m a 5th generation Australian and my mother’s side are predominantly German… and when I say my mother’s side is German I either get Heidi Klum comments or Nazi comments…  and just for the record my ancestors who came to this great southern land very NOT convicts, we too were once ‘boat people’

    • Alis says:

      12:42pm | 03/06/09

      I am a Caucasian Australian, born here, and was recently asked by another Caucasian Australian where I came from. I answered Australia, but this person wanted to know my background which of course is not entirely Australian. The only people living in this country who are, are those with Aborginal decent. I didn’t consider this query racist at all. The term racist is used MUCH too loosley here. Yes we prefer our own culture, as do pretty much all other people from non-chistrian/ European descent. I feel that Australians see that culture is being threatened by the growing number of people of different cultural backgrounds living here. We arent’ racist, we are concerned about trying to protect and retain what we know and love. How do you do that?

    • Dave says:

      12:43pm | 03/06/09

      When the rest of the world says we are racists, sit up and reflect. We should not try to justify ourselves and denying it. I really feel the majority of us cannot take feedback.

    • Mick says:

      12:46pm | 03/06/09

      I agree with the article that calling people wogs etc is racist, as it is based on their outer appearance (i.e. race..!) and nothing else. It astonishing how many people think that this is not racism. This is deeply bred into white australian society, there is no denying. The best example of this, I reckon are the comments to this article. More than 90% mention situations concerning immigrants only and do not mention a word about the aboriginals, thereby denying the existence of a complete race!

    • Tony says:

      12:46pm | 03/06/09

      Depends WHERE in Australia you live. I live in a multicultural area where Anglos are the minority. Why am I treated like an outcast by many of those in my local community?
      For those of you who claim you are vicitms of racism (and I don’t doubt it), how many of you have a group of friends that is a representative sample of the cultures in your community?
      I think in many cases racist treatment is more stupidity and ignorance than anything else. Do you trat fat and skinny people the same? What about those that are good looking and ugly? Blondes and brunettes? What if the person has a speech impediment? How about whether they live in the west of sydney of the north? Gay or straight? Does the variety among people ever end. No. Thank god we are not all clones and that we are different.
      This is a bit of a rant but hey, I try to treat everyone like I’d like to be treated myself. Wih respect. Anyone who doesn’t is no friend of planet earth.

    • vic says:

      12:49pm | 03/06/09

      What a beat up over nothing. What percentage of assaults across Melbourne were directed at Indian poeple? Unless you are talking about a significant percentage that doesn’t balance out against population numbers, then this is simply a fiction.
      I have yet to see these figures anywhere

    • Scott says:

      12:50pm | 03/06/09

      The racism here in Australia is different than what is currently in the US.  I have lived extensively in both places as an adult and can compare.

      Here, it is some people resisting diversity and multiculturalism.  The influx of non-anglo immigrants is quite “recent” if you think about it.  In the US in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, there was a lot more racism against immigrants.
      It took multiple generations for this to diminish and for multiculturalism to grow stronger.  I believe the same thing is needed here, but it may take another 20+ years. Time and education are big factors in reversing racism.

    • Steve says:

      12:55pm | 03/06/09

      Right or wrong, everyone is racist, it is a fact of life.  For other countries to be critical of Australia is utter hypocracy.  Only where talk translates into actions we have a problem, whatever happened to “sticks and stones”?

    • Ted Tyro says:

      12:58pm | 03/06/09

      I can’t help agreeing with a lot of this, but I think it makes a terrible basic assumption which undermines the whole article: it assumes that these labels are racist. Racism, by definition, invovles prejudice. What do you do with someone who uses these terms as identifiers and nothing more. Not everyone is weighed down by the derogatory history of racial labels, and those who speak them with no negative connotations are, at the very worst, insensitive - but that’s not racism.

      Not to offend the author, but it’s always seemed to me that racism lies with those who interpret these terms in negative ways. If the person speaking a word (e.g. ‘wog’) means no insult, but the person hearing can only understand it by reference to negative racial connotations, then it is the latter who exposes their prejudice. The speaker may see racial prejudice as so irrelevant that it’s not even worth considering whether others could be insulted by them. That’s the opposite of racism - it’s pure equality, which obviously carries its own baggage in a multicultural country.

    • Luke says:

      12:58pm | 03/06/09

      You’ve basically implied that Australians need to change our psyche so that we stop being racist. I disagree.
      There are many words that were considered to be racists years ago, but they aren’t now. Take Wog for example. I know quite a few people who refer to themselves as a wog, and take it proudly when someone calls it (2 of them actually use it as their nicknames).

      What I’m saying is that, what is considered racists years ago is no longer considered racist now. It changes… It just so happens that some of us are more ahead and aware of this change then others. Take the ‘wog’ example, a friend who’s nickname was ‘Wog’ was in class about 5 years ago. Another mate happened to say something like “Hey Wog, What did you do on the weekend?”, the teacher (who grew up when ‘wog’ was considered as an insult , somewhere in the 1950s-1980’s I believe) overheard this and gave the person who said the word ‘wog’ a very stern warning.

      It all depends on when you grew up, my generation (Gen Y) find’s many words once considered racist to be socially acceptable.
      But there are still other words that we do consider racist

    • David V. says:

      12:58pm | 03/06/09

      The real victims of hate are Anglo-Saxons, British and Australian, who are constant targets of a hate campaign from the multiculturalist left. Any attack on an ethnic group is automatically construed as racist- look at the whole Bowyer/Woodgate incident and so forth. Australia has real social problems, yet Anglos are always viewed as the villains, fuelled by an anti-western education system. You can’t say Enoch Powell was wrong, he foresaw what would happen.

    • Joel says:

      01:03pm | 03/06/09

      “That may be true to an extent, but many african americans use the term “nigger” to refer to themselves, does that mean anyone else can use it to describe them?
      Try it sometime… see what happens.”

      Wow, that is really one sided and backwards. Should I go calling all my ‘white’ friends cracker and pastey. And then act the same.

      You would hope not.

      Lead by example. Don’t follows others silly ones.

      Racism is rife in every coulture and background. Its how it is approached and executed by each that matters right now.

    • OLga says:

      01:05pm | 03/06/09

      White people? Tell me please what do you mean- Anglo-saxons or every person of Caucasian origin?
      I am really amazed.
      On the one hand, I am Caucasian, I am blond with blue eyes and my skin is as white as white can be so I could be considered “white”. On the other hand, my kids were called Russian mafia at school and people asked me if we came to Australia as a boat people.

      Funny, isn’t it?  So forget the skin color- there is a xenophobia, not racism.

    • James says:

      01:07pm | 03/06/09

      Everyone in the world stereotypes certain cultures, because whether you like it or not, inherently those stereotypes occur. But they are just stereotypes. While you think ALL Australians are racist, perhaps you’ll agree that all Chinese hate all Japanese. All Hindus hate all Muslims. All Jews are stingy and all Christians are deluded. Like Dave Chappelle says, stereotypes are funny, but they’re no reason to hate a person. Ultimately Trujillo’s opinions don’t bother me, because I know that by referring to all Australians as racist, he is simply generalizing a certain group of people, which is ultimately a human thing to do. Just don’t let it get out of hand.

    • OLga says:

      01:08pm | 03/06/09

      White people? Tell me please what do you mean- Anglo or every person of Caucasian origin?
      I am really amazed.
      On the one hand, I am Caucasian, I am blond with blue eyes and my skin is as white as white can be so I could be considered “white”. On the other hand, my kids were called Russian mafia at school and people asked me if we came to Australia as a boat people.

      Funny, isn’t it?  So forget the skin color- there is a xenophobia, not racism.

    • Chris says:

      01:09pm | 03/06/09

      Well.  As an Aussie working in Asia, I’m very frequently asked “where are you from?” by “cabbies” (to use David’s term).  My “guess” is that in,say, 90% of cases they are curious because I am different.  I say “guess” because I can’t be absolutely sure of exactly what they are thinking, unlike, it seems, David is about the “sub-continental cabbie” he discusses.  Perhaps he knows him well.  Because I am different, I am also referred to as a “forgeigner” or an “alien”, both in an official capacity and more casually.  Based on this fact, I would have to take issue re David’s assertion that the term “foreigners” is a “racist Australian term”.  I don’t think the term was coined in Australia or by an Australian - perhaps someone can enlighten on that.  Turning to the term “racist”:  One of the conditions of being a “racist” is to distinguish a race as inferior or superior to another race.  I think, in my case, a person born and raised for some time in India, would have a superior knowledge about, let’s say, the quality of a curry compared to me -  I have not had that level of “assumed” exposure to curry, but I could, for example, offer superior knowledge about a “pie floater” to a new arrival in Australia (I don’t like them much, but many do!).  By definition, I am being racist and there is, of course, “assumption”.  I think we need to understand that to distinguish a person by their race or by characteristics of that race is NOT ALWAYS a harmful thing (hopefully).

    • Harkeerat Singh Dua says:

      01:10pm | 03/06/09

      Good and bad are everywhere. Whats happening today is a security issue relating to every Australian citizen and visitor rather than anything else. Some humans are more accepting to others and some are less. The key is education and exposure about different cultures. World’s a beautiful place & Australia is a wonderful nation, lets try to accept each other the way we are because each culture is so lovely when we look at it. Remember its one earth and we all belong to the same planet!

    • Alexandra says:

      01:21pm | 03/06/09

      We are losing sight here of what makes racism a real issue - HATRED. In order for society to function we need to learn if our toes are being trodden on to not take it personally. You may not like being referred to in a colloquial term but if the underlying motivation for the use of that term is just thoughtless whimsy, seriously, move on. Are our ego’s so fragile?
      Racist epithets spouted to incite vile hatred - that to me is “RACISM”

    • Mart says:

      01:30pm | 03/06/09

      Calling a country racist, is racist in itself. It’s a generalisation.
      Do we know who has attacked these indian students? it may have been fellow indians? was it race motivated? I don’t know.
      If it was then it’s terrible either way.

    • Anna says:

      01:31pm | 03/06/09

      The article rather confused me.  Of course, every country is racist and no amount of political correctness will ever change that.  So why exactly should we hide it?  You either educate people so they eventually sincerely accept that people should be treated according to their deeds, values and personality and not by the skin colour or culinary preferences.  Otherwise,  you get the USA, where the problem persists and known to everybody but nobody dares to say anything. 
      We are racists up to the official level. Ever filled out a University enrollment   or a Centrelink form?  Why it should be important whether I am of Aboriginal descent?  At Uni only my ENTER score should matter.  For the Centerlink, marital status and income are relevant.  As for the roots of the racism, I agree with Vladimir.  It is those migrants who refuse to accept the values and norms of the country they came to that scream about the racism the loudest.  Notably, they usually come from extremely racist counties.  BTW, before you accuse me of being prejudiced, I am a migrant myself.

    • Dogan says:

      01:31pm | 03/06/09

      Funny that we are accused by India, a country still unofficially run by the Caste system. As an Australian of a East European descent who has just come back from 10 years in Europe, along with my half Italian fiance, I definitely think the racism in Australia is extremely low.
      My fiance was asked where she was from in Italy every time (even when buying a coffee), even though she is half Italian with a perfect Milanese accent.
      In most Mediterranean countries you’re welcome as long as you’re a visitor, lord forbid you actually go looking for work. Racism is seen in strength against the Albanians in Greece who are now considered the only criminals in the country. Russians in Turkey, where nearly all Slavic women are considered prostitutes.
      In the UK, not only is there systematic racism, but it has been proven that those with non-London accents are discriminated against with relatively lower chance of success, let alone those of foreign descent. Should I go on?
      I admit we have more violent racism than most countries, but we are unfortunately more violent in general.
      Also, I doubt America is a good example of how to be, don’t say “Black” and don’t see “Black”  isn’t really a solution to the problem.

    • Jason says:

      01:31pm | 03/06/09

      Most Australians dont actually realise how racist Australia is, its not until you leave Australia and come back about ten years later that you actually notice it, I did not notice until I left and came back from New Zealand. Im not saying Australia is as bad as South Africa was but there is a strong undercurrant of racism in society.

    • Dean says:

      01:36pm | 03/06/09

      Great article, but after travelling the world, I’d have to disagree and say Australians ARE some of the most racist in the world..  And while other countries try and improve their relations, it seems Australians dig in and argue it’s part of our culture or the ‘Aussie larrikin way’ which makes it even worse because they imply that’s how we should be as Australians. When one country in a couple of year gains world wide attention over SEVERAL race hate crimes - Cronualla riots, Melbourne bashings, chk chk boom girl (yes that was racist - wog is a racist word - and until you’re called one by a screaming ‘Aussie’ threatening to kill you - don’t tell me it’s not) it’s not only embarrassing as a nation but really, really sad…

    • Mya says:

      01:41pm | 03/06/09

      Third generation Aussie with lebanese background here. I experience the whole “leb” stigma all the time.

      So what do I do? Have fun with it. Put on the wog accent and laugh on the inside. Might as well since its not going to change anytime soon.

    • Matt says:

      01:42pm | 03/06/09

      Australian’s being racist starts at a young age. It starts as simple team competitiveness and escalates to bigotry against people who barrack for certain teams - e.g. a certain black and white AFL team. It extends to being “state-ist” - e.g The good old VIC vs NSW or VIC vs SA “rivalry”. What about the mocking people from Tasmania receive. Is it little wonder that our kids grow up to be rasict when they are trained from young. I don’t see an issue with Australian’s being racist, those non-Australians need to understand we’re not isolating them - we even discriminate against our own countryman.

    • Julie says:

      01:42pm | 03/06/09

      Foreigners? How awful.  Would you prefer we use the American term “Aliens”??  The term “racist” is thrown around far too freely these days.  We are a multicultural society and for the most part we all get along well.  We are one of the FEW true multicultural countries in the world.  There is “racism” or ignorance everywhere and YES including India. I personally think we all need to check ourselves and calm down a little, get a grip!

    • nick pearson says:

      01:52pm | 03/06/09

      I’m white, 5th generation Australian born and raised, but I’ve been an ex-pat in the US for 10 years on and off. I guess with that different cultural experience comes some perspective on my/our own culture. Australians’ sense of humour/way of talking is rude and obnoxious compared to many other cultures. But we are also funnier (in my opinion) and say what we mean which are both great strengths.

      Are we racist? We are more overtly so, and we often fall into the belief that our culture is superior to those of other people, but lack the curiosity to understand their cultures, or even the empathy to understand that they might have a legitimate, different culture.

      Agree with the article 100%.

    • Steve Symon says:

      01:53pm | 03/06/09

      I suspect there’s an element of racism in all of us which most certainly comes to the fore when we may feel trapped, outnumbered or, in general, put upon eg road rage (and we may yell xenophobic obscenities particularly if the driver who cut you off is of an Oriental persuasion)..........I do also think though it’s not restricted to race.  Those of a particular sexual persuasion, religious bent, persons who would appear at first glance to be fine judges of a schooner or meat pie would appear equally likely to be subjected to abuse from the average Aussie white Anglo-Saxon eg some rotund Yank is just as likely to have a couple of Aussies making derogatory comments about them and sniggering behind their back(side).

    • Jason says:

      01:53pm | 03/06/09

      This article generalises a very complex issue (although we do need to start somewhere). When you refer to an Australian, you have to also consider background.  Unless you’re an indigenous Australian, you have heritage elsewhere in the world, potentially affecting your opinion of others.  Questioning whether Australian’s are racist is far too simplistic since race and culture is not simply a matter of appearance or how long you’ve been here. And as for the David Penberthy - I don’t see why you mention your 3 university degrees at all?  Where’s the relevance unless they relate to the actual subject matter anyway? ...Classist?  wink

    • Mary says:

      01:58pm | 03/06/09

      Not all Australians are racist but a lot are. I am a student from Africa, been here for 3 years and generally find people to be extremely friendly. I have been called the n-word many times by over-excited teens & to my horror, many a time when visting internet cafe’s (with gaming services) heard a few Australians refer to each other as n***** and hear the occasional “I’m going to kill you n****!” whilst playing games. The owners of these cafes claim they are not responsible for what is said and you enter at your own risk. This is extremely disturbing & I think the younger generation need a lesson or 10 in understanding that there are words in this world that you cannot use without causing some sort of problems. I’m not violent, I respect the laws in this country but it also hurts that there is nowhere to complain about this as it’s seen as “people just having a laugh”. What that chk chk boom girl said was really embarassing, “its just words, if you’re proud of where you come from they shouldn’t hurt you”. Her ignorance is a great embarassment and unfortunately alot of people think like that. I do not go around calling myself n**** and certainly would not find it funny if someone else or as many have done.

    • ET says:

      02:05pm | 03/06/09

      Australians are generally racists. From the the first time I emigrated to this country I have been hearing about how “tolerant” Australians are! Why just last week even Federal Cabinet Minister Penny Wong, who should know better being an Asian herself, used the word “tolerant” to describe Australians when asked if Australia was a racist country. By definition, the word “tolerant” is “to put up with”. Asians, Aboriginals, Indians, whatever, don’t need Australians “to put up” with them. They want to be accepted equally in this country like any other Australians.

    • xanster says:

      02:13pm | 03/06/09

      for all the government has said about the ‘curry-bashings’.. people were cheering the police on for their ‘appropriate use of force’ or ‘excess force’ (whichever side you lean on) while they were trying to break up the protest. policemen were spotted ‘sniggering and nodding’ at their ‘supporters’ as well. what does this say? instead of tackling it via measures such as public education/re-training, the government chooses to close an eye in the hopes that the larger current issues (economic crisis etc) will drown this out. international students contribute so much to the economy yet they are not treated equally and valued (no public transport concessions for international students). how is the public supposed to act if their government does not even walk the talk? YOU CAN’T IGNORE A PROBLEM IN THE HOPES IT WILL GO AWAY. incidents like these will only re-occur until 5% or more of potential international students decide to go elsewhere. and then the government will feel the economic loss and act.

    • John says:

      02:16pm | 03/06/09

      “or a string of race-based attacks whereby white supremacist miscreants are going after Indian kids.

      If it is the latter, then it’s a source of shame”...
      Urrrm - any more shameful than a gang of any other single or mixed ethnic origin targetting Indian (or any other race’s) kids/adults etc?..... You may well have more information than me, and look its probably a safe assumption that SOME of the attacks were carried out by white supremacists. Its also a pretty safe assumption that SOME of the attacks were carried out by members of other national groups also targetting their victims based on race - yet you made a decision to single out one particular race here. Is this better or worse than someone who asks ‘where are you from’ in a genuine, respectful , if somewhat insensitive manner? Not trying to suggest that you ARE racist here, but rather that its easy to say something that is unintentionally offensive even when your intent is the opposite.

    • Ross says:

      02:23pm | 03/06/09

      Must be desperate for readers… out comes the tired old “Australians are racsit” angle again.  I’ve been to many countries on this Earth and can say categorically that Australia is the LEAST racist of all of them.  The global fashion (rabidly supported by bleeding heart lefties in our own country of course) is that only the West… and white people in general… are racist.  No-one dares mention the fact that the majority of non-white countries are even more racist, for fear of being tarred with the “racist!” brush.  Its the modern day equivalent of being called a witch in Salem in the 1690s or being called a communist in the 1950s.  The fact remains… white apologists and all other cultures LOVE racism, because it provides an excuse for their own failures.

    • Rudy says:

      02:24pm | 03/06/09

      India has got some of its own problems with the treatment of women and some minority groups, religious intolerance, assassinations of political figures.  However this does not excuse the opportunistic criminals in Melbourne who seem to be “justifying” their crimes at least to themselves and their mates by attaching them to racial aspects of victims.  Violent crime needs to be dealt with swiftly and for that the police and politicians need to get to the drawing board and formulate an intelligent strategy to catch these criminals and put them away so we can all be safer on the streets.  Having been the butt of “New Australian” jokes, “old” jokes, “fat” jokes, “female” jokes, one can live with these and build character, but not with the constant threat of violence.  Many Australians are not racist and take people as they come.  In all societies there are criminals and fascist minority groups and organisations.

    • c says:

      02:25pm | 03/06/09

      I totally agree with your article and reading these comments I can say that most of these people are proving your point. I hate racism and work in an office where words like bung, darky, chink, curray muncher and much worse are used constantly. I am a kiwi and when I first moved here from England I was constantly upset and offended. I hated the casual way people threw these words around. I couldn’t relate to people who could be so casually offensive. I have gotten used to it and love Australia but I still cringe and I will never join in.

    • Brett G says:

      02:31pm | 03/06/09

      The trouble with the majority of ignorant, hysterical punters out there is none of them have a clue of what racism actually means.  Is it racist for a dutchman to call an italian a “wog”?  Is it OK for a negro to call another a “nigger”...well there are instances in popular culture that indicate so.

      It’s easier to express self-hate and inferiority by throwing around the R word, than to except that people these days are esentially miserable thanks to the constraints on modern society - largely PC and the myriad of petty rules, regulations and general interferance in our lives by governments and contol freak minority groups.  The world was a much happier place in the 70’s and 80’s than today’s isolated screen-based existance. Pathetic really

    • Rask says:

      02:41pm | 03/06/09

      Methinks my Aussie chums are a bit in denial! Have a think about your general work place and how ‘jokes’ are made or general comments about someone because of the colour of their skin or where they are from. I am amazed at how many places I have worked where people have said something clearly racist with a shy smile on their face as if to say I know I shouldn’t say it but it’s funny. What’s more disturbing is that the same person can feel they can make a comment like that and not be afraid of being reprimanded or chastised by the people he’s making the comments to. This has nothing to do with political correctness, it’s to do with mutual respect and not making someone feel more uncomfortable than they may already feel by coming from a different culture or having a different skin colour. It’s interesting how many people have reacted with indignation at being called racist as though they have the right to say what racism is or isn’t, or the level of offense a person should take from a racist comment.

    • Nick says:

      02:42pm | 03/06/09

      SCALE is the key word here.

      To say racism in Australia is on the same level as any other country in the world is absurd. How about apartheid South Africa (or any other country in Africa for that matter), Iraq and many other Middle Eastern countries, or even the writer’s native country India? (caste system, “Untouchables”)

      Sure, if you remove the scale then calling someone a ‘wog’ or a DRUNK idiot calling someone Chanderpaul, or a few dropkicks attacking some easy targets on the street is the equivalent to whole ethnic groups being forcibly separated, people KILLING other people just because of their ethnic group or religion, and a system where social restrictions are placed on people of certain ethnicities.

      Without scale mainland Australia and Tasmania can be the same size on a map.

      On the scale of ‘racist’ countries as you call them, Australia is somewhere near the bottom of the list.

    • Mark says:

      02:43pm | 03/06/09

      David, all your article does is demonstrate your cultural myopia. Consider the rules of citizenship in Japan, and the recent war in Sri Lanka. Ever heard of Rwanda? Ask Kamahl why he left Malaysia. Catch up with what’s happening in Myanmar. What about Papua New Guinea and the chinese shops.
      Yes, most people in Australia are racist. (Some of the most racist are the most recent arrivals.) However in world terms, we are strictly amateurs.

      David, read your own newspapers and you will be better informed.

    • lee says:

      02:48pm | 03/06/09

      You claim white australia is racist, how ever you refer to “whiteys” in your article. Is this not a racist term similar to dark skinned people being referred to as “darkys”

    • hermes says:

      02:52pm | 03/06/09

      Whatever, you ever been to India, I worked there for 6 months on a archealogical dig. The “racial descrimination” in Australia is nothing compared to what i saw there.

      Another thing i dont understand is that people do have different coloured skin. No joke Skin actually comes in different colours.

      Besides if we are going by this guys definitions of racism then his opening paragraph:

      From the Chk Chk Boom girl to the anti-Indian ratbags in Melbourne, Australians are racist. I’ve come to this conclusion not because I’ve got three university degrees but because I’ve spent the past four decades being asked if I’m a curry-muncher.

      Is quite racist itself.

    • sarah says:

      03:10pm | 03/06/09

      Despite what people think of Australia, at least here (and aussies working overseas) our ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS (sticks & stones and all that) ... I’ve faced discrimination, I’ve been verbally & physcially abused, I’ve been brought up tough and I dont take sh*t, I dont lie, cheat or steal, I dont try and shift blame if I’ve done something wrong (unlike a few cultures around the world), but like any other reasonable person, I HATE BEING GENERALISED as a racist when I’m not actually doing anything wrong to anyone else - like many Aussies, I tend to just mind my own business and let others take care of themselves. Every single example used in the above article is not something I partake it nor do I find it necessary to ask such personal questions of people unless they offer it to me - and I believe myself to be typical, because I have mates of all colours but we are all aussies first. But if you think anglo aussies arent tougher to their own then you are living in dreamland.

    • Ross says:

      03:10pm | 03/06/09

      Australia is not racist. People are just too precious now days. 20 years ago you called a pom a pom. It wasn’t derogotory at all, it was just how english people were referred. Today you call a pom a pom and your racist. It still isn’t meant as a derogotory term, yet somehow it is taken as it is. If you don’t like the way the majority of people in a country act, you don’t have to be in that country. If I lived in India and disagreed with the way I was being treated I would hightail it back to Australia. I wouldn’t bitch and whinge about it. Its their culture and I am not in my home country so I am the one who either has to accept it or leave.

    • Amber says:

      03:16pm | 03/06/09

      Most of these comments make Australians look like racist, ignorant fools who are proud of it!

      Just becasue you think a joke or nickname is funny, doesn’t make it funny. Even though you think it’s “just poking fun” or done in jest, doesn’t mean you’re not hurting the person you’re talking about. Racists don’t think there’s anything wrong with the bile they spew, that’s part or what makes them racist. If you find yourself thinking “there’s nothing wrong with me calling X a Y, it’s funny,” maybe you should try looking again.

      And even if every culture is racist, why does that mean you shouldn’t stop? That’s as stupid as saying, well that person in front of me littered, so I’m going to throw all my garbage on the ground too! Yeah, that’s really going to make the world a better place.

    • Loz says:

      03:39pm | 03/06/09

      ok…so what about Luke Mitchell? He is white and was stabbed and killed by Asians. Does that make all Asians racist against white people? And should us white Australians now protest in the streets telling people not to go to Asia? This is becoming so ridiculous and it is making me more set in my ways about certain races.
      I have something against people who come here from other countries and try to change this country to suit them. I have had enough of it. I’d never dream of going overseas and trying to change the ways of the country I move to. I could go on and on but I’d be here all day.
      Vladimir sums it up totally. I completely agree with Vladimir….Does that make me racist? Whatever, I don’t care anymore.

    • J says:

      03:43pm | 03/06/09

      As a person who has been called Rasist on a regular basis in my security job by almost every ethnic group in the world at some stage ( this includes white Australians who thout i was ) i find the term it self gets bandied around to often and it self becomes racist in its use.
        When i chose not to let a person into my place of work its not because of how there precived ethnic background its to do with there actions prior to entry or the fact they don’t meet the dress standards for the venue.
        If I ask someone where they are from its not because i am judging them, I actually find it very interesting talking to people from other places in this world of ours and that i would like to know more than just what i get of the TV and out of books.

    • Jedda says:

      03:56pm | 03/06/09

      Miki Runi says “wogs” came here to build the country and work their asses off, anglos came here to colonise and inflict genocide.” ... um I think a brief history lesson is needed here because some need reminding whose flag it was that was planted in Sydney cove on 26 January 1788, and why ... approximately 145 000 convicts were FORCIBLY brought here as slave labour to cement a British presence, many for the pettyest of crimes (due to poverty & starvation).

      The British were prepared to kill and conquer any opposition to that aim (& permanently secure a good trade route) - they were at war with the French and like many European nations, were invading & colonising lands left, right & centre for commercial & political purposes. In 1788, approximately 800 000 Aboriginals were here - these people fought against the colonisation of their land - the British employed sickening measures to stop this, which were continued on by white Australians (yes, the British taught us well). While peace has never been delcared, nor a treaty entered into, eventually all the groups lived side by side - and now every other culture except the Indigenous BENEFIT FROM THIS.

      These people, and their descendents, have helped to build this country .. those that came after the war (WWII), while contributing much to our society, have simply value added, nothing more, nothing less. As for racism claims, yes some (probably many) here are racist (in their language), but not all are white, and not all were born here. But is Australia any better or worse than any other country around the world? I doubt it .. time to stop being hysterical and pointing the finger and start looking inwards - we all need to ask ourselves, are we doing enough individually to counter this perception?

    • Jasmine says:

      03:58pm | 03/06/09

      Australia was established on practices of racism….we didnt want the blacks we had….and we didnt want the other non whites coming here…white australia policy

      but times have changed….if you have money to spend in our country you’re welcome…

      Just ignore the racism we try so hard to hide in the closet….damn closet keeps opening up!

      To AC regarding the ‘wog’ is not a racist term….does it show up on the census as to what background you are,

      Australian
      Australian Wog
      Wog from oversea’s

      Which box do You tick?

    • John Greenfield says:

      04:27pm | 03/06/09

      “Racism” is real, and iwhen it extremely ocassionally pops up in Australia it IS ugly.


      Unfortunately, in Australia, the word has lost all its power because histrionic Luvvies hell-bent on showing the world how ideologically pure they are, are forever cocked to shoot the “racist” bullet at even the lamest of targets.


      Describe a house with big white columns as “woggy” and off they’ll go. Lips-pursed, fingers-waving, “you’re a racist”!


      Sadly, the tantrums that are typical of the Luvvies’ moral narcissism, have evaporated their credibility as guardians of who/what is and is not “racist”.


      Time we all told the Luvvies, they all sound like Big Girls Blouses!

    • Ash R. says:

      04:30pm | 03/06/09

      I find it highly amusing that you want to brand Australia as a racist haven yet you use the term “whitey” and also “Bundyman and his brain dead brethren” in your article. You do realise that “bogan” is also the blanket term to describe all Anglo Australians these days don’t you? Much the same way as “cracker” is used in the US. These statements seem to be ok though, can anybody tell me why?

      Oh and you realise that productions like Wogs Out Of Work and Fat Pizza are largely created by ethnic Australians who are poking fun at themselves don’t you? They are not the creations of some evil, white man looking to denigrate a whole race of people. This “article” is all kinds of wrong and I feel dumber for having read it.

    • Jen says:

      05:03pm | 03/06/09

      It makes me pretty mad to see Australia being branded as a racist country.  And it makes me especially mad to hear people like “Rachel” above say Australia is 15 years behind the developed world.  As a Melbournian who has been living in the USA for the last 2 years, I have never seen so much racial division and segregation prior to living in the USA, and it’s seething beneath a facade of political correctness.  I don’t deny there is a racist element within the Australian population (as there is in every country in the world) but, if nothing else, people will say it to your face and not just let it fester behind your back where it manifests in more insidious ways (such as a noose being hung from a tree in a predominantly African American school’s grounds, racist graffiti scrawled all over a graffiti wall of a predominantly African American university ... the list of recent incidents could go on).  Just because Australians don’t always come across as politically correct doesn’t mean the heart of the nation is racist.  And the Australian media is certainly quick to put any racist or perceived-as-racist incidents in the spotlight, unlike the US where the watered-down-for-easy-digestion media brushes such things under the carpet pretty quickly.  If anything Australia is just 15 years behind in its international PR technique.

    • Cat says:

      06:11pm | 03/06/09

      This country - like most Imperialised continents - was built on Racism (capital R for the policy of racism). Of course we are a racist country. Most countries developed through ethnic diversity will have racial discrimination. Don’t get me started on the way the traditional owners of this land still get treated to this day! Spat on for being so. Seen it first hand.

      What I find most interesting about the issue of racially motivated attacks here in Australia being polarised by Indian groups, authorities and politicians; is that in India there is a very clear, sub-human division between rich/poor and ethnic groups on their own soil - i.e.; the rich get rich by marginalising minorities. Not to mention their habit of setting women on fire for refusing a most generous but unwanted marriage proposal!!!

      Isn’t that the saffron calling the turmeric yellow?

    • ron says:

      06:13pm | 03/06/09

      B.s - I really don;t think aussie is racist country.

      I stayed in Sydney for some time, I think aussie are most lively people and i really doubt that Aussie have a high number of racist buggers.
      It happens every where, Rather in Australia people are so friendly and they embrace you as you are, Its a true futuristic country where you have all culture living under same roof with love and dignity, Yes as Aussie culture - i been abused just for fun but i give it back too. But that’s what a true bloke do - Take it easy mate!!. We have so many things to worry about than these little issues.
      I had great times in Aussie, i think the main reason these kids face problem is - not being open to other culture as a visitor you have to realize you are guest here and respect their life style and….... you just become one of them. They embrace you like one of them.

      Well but once you face some racist b1@tch give it back to them. I think, i would be more than handy to kick their racist arse in no time. Once you give it to them i would like to see how many come back, and file a law suite - against them, its a big offense and media need such subjects.

      I hope people stop calling Australia a racist country because that BIG FAT LIE !!!!!!
      Without offending many Kiwis I would say NZ is no way a better option than aussie, best part about nz is - it has a life similar to aussie life style.

    • Mike says:

      06:31pm | 03/06/09

      If governments increase police activity such that the perpetrators of violent attacks are caught and further attacks decline in number due to the likelihood of arrest, then this matter will discline in importance.  That is the way to deal with the problem, not stand around wringing our hands about something that as a 50 year old I reckon is in slow decline.

    • Will Egan says:

      06:42pm | 03/06/09

      Are Australians racist? Well first of all, that is a massive generalisation which can barely be explored by any medium, let alone a blog or news site. The recent ‘journalistic debate’ has done what most media coverage does, stirred muddy waters.

      I am a proud and somewhat patriotic ‘Aussie’ who aligns with no specific religious or political groups, I am 19 and live in the multicultural suburbs of western Melbourne. Furthermore, I have an immigrant background and study alongside many international students at Monash Uni.

      Read more from my post on this article: http://tinyurl.com/pplnxe

      Good debate ppl!

    • Dee says:

      07:20pm | 03/06/09

      Perhaps India should look at Sri Lanka’s treatment of Tamil civilians before making waves over Australian racism. Sorry, how many Indian’s have died in Australia recently?

    • nic says:

      07:34pm | 03/06/09

      I see that there is a lot of truth in your story, however while australians might have nicknames and such for the ‘foreigners’ the foreigners are also equally aware of the australians being a different race, it’s not one sided. Australians living in other countries experience the same sorts of varied degrees of racism, particularly in non-anglo countries, and even in Australia families who have settled here often remain anti-australian and dedicate much of their lives to feeling that their race is superior and avoiding mixing. I have a wide range of friends and do not discriminate based on anything - as far as I’m concerned honesty and a joke from everyone can break those barriers and put everyone on a level playing field. I believe “racism” is feelings born of hate and intollerance and I for one will never stand by anyone abusing or acting violently to anyone, based on anything, let alone race. But I stand by the majority of good, honest australians and ‘foreigners’ who like to have a laugh and break down those walls.

    • Michael says:

      07:39pm | 03/06/09

      People are racist in the sense that they are able to recognise something different to what they percieve as the norm.  And that is true everywhere in the world.  Where “racist” must always have a negative connotation then the term should be used sparingly.  I think it’s true that Aussies do demonstrate a “remarkably casual use of low-level racism” but we must remember that the history from which these attitudes and terms came had sharp teeth.  Whilst it is arguable that the current usages are “harmless” their history should not be forgotten.  Indeed the terms are still used with venom for a large number of people.  I live in Germany where recently a German girl of Somali descent won the popular “Germany’s Next Top Model” show and I found it very interesting that there were hardly any comments made on her background apart from the odd acknowledgment thereof (although I wonder what the reaction would have been had she been of Turkish origin).  Another thing I found interesting from my time in England is that English of all backgrounds speak with deeply ingrained English accents, something I did not experience to the same extent in Australia even from a number of those who were born and bred in Australia.  I believe that this is mostly because non-Anglo background is constantly sub-divided by the majority Anglo-population, meaning that accents within sub-cultures become a source of great pride.  I think we should also remember that race is but one of the distinguishing features of humans and to some extent being treated differently based on what you look like (e.g. a young punk walking into the Hilton) is a normal part of life.  Problems arise when it goes too far.  I think the author has found this balance and has called the situation as it is - i.e. low-level racist.  I would add to that the same low-level racism is meant by some people in a high-level way.

    • hortense says:

      07:41pm | 03/06/09

      70 years of the White Australia Policy and the recent political demise of a closet racist PM has left a latent legacy of racism in Australia.If you cant believe that Aus is a racist society then please ask those who suffer most from this namely the aboriginal people.

    • Zarathustra says:

      07:43pm | 03/06/09

      The media, not to imply that the media spouts truth at all times, said that, according to police, indian students put themselves at risk by traveling around the city and suburbs, in the open, carrying expensive, easily sold, items such as CDs, DVDs, laptops, notebooks, MP3 players, leaving themselves open to attack, mugging and theft of these items.

      How is this racist?

      All big cities carry an element of risk of these things hapening and individuals must be aware of these risks and take appropriate precautions. Those who do not have only themselves to blame.

      I suggest that this is all Australia-bashing, for no good reason, and should be ignored.

      The fact that big cities are like this in no way implies that they should be, nor is there any insult to law enforcement agencies for neglecting their jobs insinuated. As Indian authorities would know, being in control of some of the largest and messiest cities in the world, it is not that easy to police these things.

      I find it rather disingenuous of the Indian government to stir this up, although it is regretable that these students have had this happen to them.

      Kevin Rudd should just ignore this one. It will go away.

    • Adam Cartwright says:

      08:35pm | 03/06/09

      I’ve lived just about everywhere, as the song says, and moved here from the UK a couple of years ago. Sorry to say, Australia is very easily the most racist country I’ve ever been to.

      And the widespread dismissing of that as ‘knockabout’ is the most ridiculous aspect of it.  Telling someone you’re joking after you’ve put them down racially is often more insulting than the original put down.

      But for most of us foreigners in this country, it’s actually more tedious than it is insulting. What it definitely is not is amusing, no matter how many times you all tell yourselves it is.

      The rest of us left this childish, insular behaviour behind a long time ago. I can’t help feeling that perhaps Australians should grow up and do the same.

    • Robinoz says:

      09:03pm | 03/06/09

      Read the critical commentary on http://save-australia.blogspot.com

      We have governments that are racist in their policies and practices, but generally the people are friendly to others from overseas ... even Kiwis.

    • Zvim says:

      09:26pm | 03/06/09

      I think a lot of the “racist” tenancies you describe exist within ever nation, no matter how big or small.  Saying Australia is racist is about as newsworthy as saying dogs have four legs.  It is human instinct to be racist, as a predator we will by default focus on the weak, the different and those outnumbered.

      If you don’t want to be racist it is really quite simple, don’t be born.

      You really need to differentiate between acts of violence and hate that are based on racial hate, saying you are victim of racial abuse because you have been called a curry muncher is really soft.  I was subject to real racism back when the country was less politically correct.

      At the time it is unpleasant but it is just people who are weak mentally who rely too much on instinct and who lack the brain power to think about what they are doing.  Our best defense against these people is to raise the standard of education.

      I live in Melbourne and I don’t know what is going on with the attacks on the indian students.  From what I have seen in the news is that a lot of gang based attacks have been involving asian gangs.  All us “wogs” are too old, have kids, have settled down and most haven’t passed on the same racial hatred that we were subjected to onto our kids largely because despite the cultural differences we were quick to assimilate into Australian lifestyle.

      I think a big problem in our society is the groups that choose to come here but do not assimilate well.  For students that don’t plan to stay here it is not as much an issue but I can see similarities to the groups now that are causing trouble to other groups of my generation who struggled to assimilate well into the culture.  But back then Victoria was a police state, where the police shot first and asked questions later.

      It seems the streets have been surrendered to the thugs and the gangs.  While the streets will be filled with blood, we need a gunslinging commissioner that will make sure the streets run red with gang blood, not innocent civilian blood.

      I hope they don’t take the same attitude that they did in the ganglang wars and just plan to arrest the last man standing, that would seem an ineffective strategy given the general public is the victim.

    • Anthony says:

      10:19pm | 03/06/09

      No more racist than any other country clown, but you are right we are racist, show me a country that isn’t!

    • Tristan says:

      11:33pm | 03/06/09

      “Of all things, a framed and signed Cronulla Sharks jersey”... I’m sorry, was this a reference towards the race riots in Cronulla? An event that shouldn’t be associated with the NRL team or in fact the Sutherland Shire as a whole. Isn’t that a tad bit judgmental on your behalf that anything associated with Cronulla is racist? In fact i would consider it on the same page as when “Bundyman” referred to you as “Chanderpaul Singh”...

    • Dan German says:

      11:34pm | 03/06/09

      Crap.  When was the last time you were refused entry to a restaurant due to your race?  Any crosses burnt on your lawn? 
      Can’t get into the country club because they don’t accept “your kind”?

      The term “racist” is a very strong word.  Ignorant?  Yes, many people are.
      Stupid? Yes.  Insensitive? sure.  But racist?  Not much of that going on in Aussie culture.

    • Artie Mann says:

      12:05am | 04/06/09

      Australia is one big trailer trash park. It’s a poorer, trashier version of the U.S. from the pre-civil rights era.

    • The Cabbie says:

      02:53am | 04/06/09

      One of my fares tonight, a young man of African American heritage, responded to my question if he finds Australian racist with following :
      His perception was that this society is prejudiced, borne out of ignorance [not a dirty word!], but not racist. His definition of racism was one group dominating and organising themselves to keep other groups down in order to gain advantage.
      This he expierenced in his own homeland but not in Australia, where he thought everybody was given a fair go and had the same opportunities, regardless of race or colour.
      Thinking about this comment and my own observations I have to agree with him, Ozzies tend to be in your face a bit which may offend some sensitive souls, but by no means do we live in a discriminating society.
      Mind you, I don’t include the plight of Aboriginals in this analysis.

    • JC says:

      02:56am | 04/06/09

      Australians are generally very friendly to foreigners. It just takes a few misled youth to tarnish the name of this beautiful country, which is sad.
      Apart from the examples quoted in the article, anyone think that going to a foreign country, stealing a bar mat, trying to bribe the local authorities after being caught because ‘that’s how things work over there’ is racist? Just because they’re Thai doesn’t mean they’ll take bribes.
      What’s worse are the claims from the party involved and her family that the Australian government isn’t doing their part to extricate her from her own predicament. She’s lucky she got away with it, she’d get harsher punishment if she stole a bar mat in Oz and tried to bribe the cops.

    • Johnny says:

      03:49am | 04/06/09

      The biggest joke is, all these people have jumped to a conclusion that it is white Australians beating up these Indians!!??!! When was a description of the attackers in every single attack on Indians ever released to the media?

      When these attacks started being reported in the news, I also came to an assumption about what origins the attackers were and it wasn’t white Australians. I would tell you but you would probably call this racist, though I call it conditioning from life experience. When I was growing up, everytime I or my friends were attcaked by a group of people, often hugely outnumbering us and mostly several years older, they never once were white Australians. Funnily enough, being a white Australian was the pure reason we were attacked in nearly every case.

    • Rod says:

      09:17am | 04/06/09

      I’m half curry muncher, half mick, born in Oz. My sisters are poms. One of my best mates is one of those Uruguayan bastards who beat us in the world cup qualifier, another one is a tight-arsed Scot, and another is a Lebo Arab who is the constant butt of bomb jokes. Yet another was born a sheep shagger, his brother a Seppo. And ... this is serious ... I don’t consider myself racist. And we know every time we crack a joke about each other so many people outside of our group would be appalled and disgusted. I guess that’s why we all find it so funny. Is that racist? Where’s that mirror?

    • Arnie says:

      10:34am | 04/06/09

      Thinking laterally through my background as a teacher, the behaviour in the playground that kids defend by saying ‘We were just having fun.’ can often be seen by adults as bullying, violence, racism or even criminal behaviour. In other words the schoolchild’s definition of fun can be well out of whack with the teacher’s definition of the same word.  In the same way the word racism seems to have problems of definition.

      Are jokes about Kiwis, Poms, Jaapies and Septic Tanks racist when on The Bill they would all be categorised as IC1’s? ie members of the same race.  We can’t modify definitions even though the tone of many contributions to this thread is that it is racism only when offence is intended.  How do you measure intent?  Is it fair to measure racism by the reception from the ‘victim’? 
      I have been called a male chauvinist pig by women for whom I have held a door open or to whom I have offered a seat on a train.  Does that make me one?

      Again we have to be careful as schoolkids would also defend themselves by saying ‘He doesn’t mind, he didn’t say anything.’ when there has been deep internal hurt.I have lived in the Middle East where Indians collectively are seen as an inferior race and overtly discriminated against in many ways.  I can’t recall the Indian media in this latest incident suggesting other countries their students might try where there is less racism than is perceived here in Australia.

      In conclusion I would have to say that technically,by the current definition of the word, we are all racist in Australia but not as badly racist as the majority of other countries around the world.
      Doesn’t help much does it?

    • Michael says:

      05:27pm | 04/06/09

      David I can understand where you are coming from and unfortunetly it all comes down to a lack of respect. Please people let’s not compare Australia to other countries and make excuses. Are we going to improve ? It seems like most people like conflict.

      The use of Aussie in your article isn’t offensive because that’s what we all are, so ignore those comments.

    • Indian Aussie says:

      05:38pm | 04/06/09

      So Mr David Penberthy, where ARE you from? If you were born in Australia, which you obviously are, where are parents from or your grandparents from? Or your great, great, great grandparents from? It can’t go back much before 200 years, so it should be fairly easy to say. The name doesn’t give a clue about your origins. Or does it? Since many adopted Anglo Saxon names not to be discriminated against.

      And since I’m an Indian Aussie, you can be sure I’m not asking that in a rude, insulting or abusive way.

      Please do make sure to differentiate between criminal assault and racial discrimination - overt and covert - in your future posts. This discussion of racial tension is now in the spotlight, so we need to discuss it from as many angles as possible.

      As to downplaying the rent-a-crowd Hindu extremists, you are either uninformed, naive or making a politically expedient statement. The danger from militant Hindu fascists who follow the Hindutva ideology, propagate it through VHP and have a political wing in India, BJP (read up all you can about RSS and the Sangh Parivar) is very real in India who are at the receiving end of militant discrimination. Many of the Hindu fascists migrate to the West and bring their attitudes along. Read the scandal reading the appointment of Sonal Shah to Barack Obama’s transition government. Why did she have to deny her activities with VHP, and make a politically correct statement, if the ideology of VHP was so wonderful? The most scary thing about the Sangh Parivar is how Indian history is being rewritten and systematically propagated to suit their agenda. Indian Muslims and Indian Christians are vilified and treated as non-Indians!

      Please do not fan the flames of militant Hindu fascism by downplaying the activities associated with their ideology. How many times do the militant Hindu fascists rise up in arms when Indian Christians and Indian Muslims are killed or abused? Many incidents in India don’t even make to the press. They are downplayed at best, if not a completely distorted interpretation given.

      Don’t take me wrong. I’m only against militant Hindu fascism. Not against Hinduism. The new trend is new, and is scariy. For anyone familiar with Nazi ideals of Hitler’s Germany, it should ring warning bells. Before you write “rent-a-crowd” the next time, make sure you have read the manifesto of RSS, the mother of BJP and VHP.

    • Indian Aussie says:

      06:09pm | 04/06/09

      Now that I have got the militant Hindu fascist thing off my chest, to defining racism in Australia. What would be helpful is to know the difference between criminal assault due to racist attitudes, overt racial discrimination in the workplace, covert discrimination in all areas, and a racial attitude that expresses itself by avoiding people of other ethnicities and races in as many ways as possible, except in situation where contact cannot be avoided. These are all different levels. Interesting would also be to find out how Indians evolve after they have lived for some years in Australia. New immigrants complain that many Indians become racist themselves, especially against their own people. Envy and rivalry make many indifferent to the plight of new immigrants and many Indians do give other Indians a helping hand. This should be investigated as well. Some Indian bloggers blaming the innocent victims for the criminal assault was one of such manifestations. Sure living in localities known for criminal activities and being on the road at unearthly hours where criminal assault is more likely is foolish. But still one should not blame victims for criminal assault.

      Curry Bashing can be simply a term for “easy victim of Indian origin.”

    • H says:

      06:32pm | 04/06/09

      Australian Media is racist. I blame the media for encouraging racism. For example if an Asian or Middle Eastern Man commits a crime we hear/read “Asian Man commits crime or Middle Eastern Man commits crime”. But if a white Australian is involved we simply hear/read “Man”, as opposed to the equivalent which would be “Australian Man” or “of British Decent”. Ask yourselves is this fair? Why is the media doing this? Or if you disagree that this even happens then keep a mental note when you’re reading the paper.

      There are times when someone may be of Middle Eastern appearance but not actually be Middle Eastern yet the media says
      There are so many races in Australia its hard to pin point what everyone’s background is. It’s easier to define appearance in larger groups such as Asian, Middle Eastern, Islander. We never hear South American for e.g. and there is a considerable number in Sydney. Perhaps because it’s hard to distinguish and at times they do appear somewhat Middle Eastern so that’s the label they are given. White Australians wouldn’t like it if they were given a bad reputation overall due to bad actions of other white Australians yet many give this exact treatment to other races.

      Because of this a criminal label is placed on particular races and not on others and we subconsciously create a vision of that race being that way but others not so much.

      A lot of the time I hear people say,  “if you don’t like it here then go back to where you came from”. But we don’t see that phrase used against white Australians who don’t like it here. We don’t tell them go back to Britain do we? If a racist can’t even change his attitude and become non-racist how can he expect people of other backgrounds to change their cultural beliefs when they come here? I can’t imagine people with Aussie Pride ignoring their aussieness if they were to go overseas. We would try to incorporate both cultures as best we can. Otherwise we loose our identity. If this is what makes us who we are then it is unfair of us to expect others to dismiss it and be someone where not.  Australia is a country of free will. So how can we teach others not to be themselves? Be fake, be someone your not. This is truly against the Aussie way of thinking. Sure if its something negative we should remove it from who we are and improve ourselves, but if its good or if it wont harm anyone then hey let people do it. So what if we see a Muslim woman wearing a veil, it won’t harm anyone but some of you feel anger or hostility. I think in this case you should look at yourself, as being the one to change because having undue hostility is bad. Wearing a veil is harmless.

      In this day and age any country has mixed races. If you want to be only around your own race then im sorry but the only way is to jump back a few hundred centuries.

      I noticed that after the cronulla riots the number of people bearing the Southern Cross tattoo increased dramatically. So too did large stickers on cars saying “Aussie Pride”. This is the indirect method of being racist. Making others feel alienated. Non-Aussies can’t have aussie pride and if they project pride towards there own culture they are told to go home or frowned upon.

      I’ve copped racism all my life. Especially throughout school on a daily basis and received beatings because I was of a different background, although I was born here. I never felt as though I belonged. I went overseas to my place of origin in the belief I’d find myself. I was treated very well by all but I felt as though I didn’t belong, I felt so aussie being there and I didn’t fit in at all. I felt just as lost as I did back in Australia. Basically In Australia I felt Lebanese and In Lebanon I felt Aussie. So I couldn’t win but I remain here because its what I know.

      We aren’t all bad. It’s too bad the media doesn’t realize that. Or maybe it does but it doesn’t want you the public to see that for some weird reason.

    • sonia says:

      07:15am | 05/06/09

      I hope for a world where there is more migration and integration, where india gets populated with white and black people. Where Oz gets populated with loads more indians and blacks and chinese. China gets more white, blacks and australians wink

      jesus its all relative, its healthy to mix it up, couple of generations from now our kids won’t care…...we all came from africa anyway

      here’s to more integration and a really cool colorful soceity and cute mixed race babies

      The real problem makers are the governments and business groups and newspapers who like to pit ethnic groups against each other whilst they cream off the profits and do what they want in politics to make themselves richer. We are too busy infighting to notice.

      lets wake up and not fall for it again and again
      xx

      xx

    • Paddy says:

      10:16am | 05/06/09

      Great article David..the casual racism of many Australians is perplexing to many people. I think it basically comes down to ignorance and the only way to combat that is education.

      Some years ago when we lived in Australia I was at a BBQ with my Japanese wife and we introduced ourselves to a young Aussie couple. The man said “Oh, she`s a JAP…” then proceeded to make a stereotypical comment in which he used the word JAP again. I couldn`t believe what I had heard. My wife was stoical but I knew inside it hurt her.

      The bloke who said it was not nasty and didn’t seem to be a bigot, just a happy go lucky Aussie bloke, who was blissfully ignorant that the word is considered offensive to Japanese people in other parts of the world but apparently not Australia. It just rolled off his tongue like Yank or Kiwi.

      Later I had a chat with him and explained in a friendly tone that the word was belittling to my wife, it humiliated her. He was genuinely apologetic and sought out my wife to say sorry.

      The point is, when you hear this casual racism from Australians, don’t get mad and for heaven’s sake don’ get even. Educate them !

      By the way, I find it hard to understand the argument that other nations have racists so therefore it’s okay for us.

    • Louisa says:

      11:36am | 05/06/09

      I totally agree with H’s comments (June 4th, 2009 at 05:32pm). Well said and you describe my experience exactly, although I am no of Lebanese descent.

    • Frank Scicluna says:

      02:27pm | 05/06/09

      Unfortunately I have not had the time to read all these comments but I found the one from Kelly (June 3rd, 11.19am) to be a totally impressive one. She has been on both sides of the fence therefore can be very objective. PLEASE read it again and at least TRY to understand. Many, many thanks Kelly, you are a true and great Australian

       

    • Scott says:

      02:05am | 06/06/09

      Stop being sooo precious!

      Calling someone a curry muncher, pom, scot, yank, etc is a term of endearment in this country.

      Get a life!

    • Ira says:

      07:01pm | 06/06/09

      Marbo (june3, 11:07), I couldn’t agree more! Displaying sensitivity is overlooked, and this lack of sensitivity encourages racists to be nasty and violent, with no consequence

    • Paddy says:

      11:42pm | 06/06/09

      Scott, I notice that you exhort David Penberthy to “Get a Life”. Well, it would seem strange that a person writing a blog would not actually have a life, so I read his profile and , while it might be arguable that anyone who edited for the Daily Terror had life as such, it does indeed seem that he does have a life, not a bad one either. Hence your exhortation seems rather unneccessary.

      I should add that I actually have a life too and I quite like it, so please don`t tell me to get another one.

      What you really should do is examine your own life considering you think that disrespectful terms that convey contempt are actually “terms of endearment”.

      In my previous post, I discussed how an Australian man had called my Japanese wife a “Jap” to her face. Twice. I then went on to explain how much this hurt her and was able to educate this man to some degree.  Later I discussed this episode with another Australian man whose wife was Japanese. He told me that if any man called his wife a “Jap” he would knock his teeth out. He wasn`t kidding, and he looked like the sort of bloke who could actually make good on such a threat. Of course I do not condone this method of education. I prefer gentler methods.

      But, I do have a hypothetical question for you Scott. Let`s say that in a social situation you meet a couple. The wife is Indian. The husband is a white Australian, 6 foot 10 and built like the proverbial outhouse. He is the sort of bloke who could give you the thrashing of your life if he was angry enough with you. The question is : “would you call this man`s wife a ‘curry muncher’ to her face ?”  Would you risk losing your front teeth ?

      I suspect the answer is no, although it is unlikely you will admit that here. You should then examine the possibility that the way you call people these names is not from a context of jovial larrikinish equality but indeed from a standpoint of perceived superiority.  Placed in a position of inferiority, you wouldn`t dream of doing it.

    • Nissanka says:

      03:02pm | 07/06/09

      Talking about racism, just how many dark skinned girls get to be the
      leading lady in a Bollywood movie.  Almost all the leading ladies are
      fair, and if you are a dark skinned girl you got no chance at all of getting
      a role in a movie let alone becoming a leading lady.
      This is in a country where the majority of people are dark skinned like
      myself.

    • Abe says:

      02:07pm | 10/06/09

      I’m an Indo-Fijian who has practically lived here all my life (I moved here from Fiji when I was two years old, but no-one remembers anything before the age of three anyway) and the people I’m most angry right now are… at the Indian students acting violently during their so called ‘peace protests’. Yes, that’s right. While I have sympathy for the Indian students who are viciously attacked on Melbourne streets, I cannot hold the same sympathy for the Indian students who think it’s perfectly okay to take the law into their own hands, and cause uproar against the Victorian police, the same police force who the students are trying to get on their bloody side! Now I just heard that a group of Indian students in Sydney have just attacked a group of innocent Lebanese bystanders as retaliation of a group of (different) Lebanese attacking an Indian student. Oh my god, talk about hypocrisy! They (the Indian attackers, and NOT ALL the Indian students btw) clearly displayed the same kind of racism that they are protesting against; which is being singled out because of your race. They DO have a right to protest against these recent attacks on their peers, but they DO NOT have the right to undertake any form of violent aggression as part of their anti-racism campaign. They are not painting an ideal picture of themselves, and for other Indians that are not associated with them. I have a feeling that the public sympathy for these students will definitely start to dwindle if they continue to behave the way they are now.

      Now that that’s out of the way, do I believe Australia is a racist country? Seriously, what a really stupid question to toss around. Okay well, does Australia have racism? Of course I would say yes, but so does everyone country in the world (there’s no such thing as a country devoid of racism in the world, if there was it would simply be a utopia, but of course that’s not going to be achieved on this ‘third rock from the sun’). I myself however am honoured to live in a great country. With its very high global rankings of standards of living and carefree lifestyle, I truly believe that this is the lucky country. Despite yours truly being an immigrant (albeit at a VERY young age) I, at no such level, feel left out of Australian society. In fact, the times where I have travelled to Fiji, I have always experienced a level of culture shock from being in the archipelago, despite it being the place of my birth. While I do have a deep love for Fiji (mainly because I obviously have family there), my love for Australia outshines it even more, and will always truly believe this place to be my home (some of you may think I’m milking it a bit, but that’s how I feel).

    • Maddison says:

      10:53pm | 12/06/09

      i don’t believe everyone is racist. But people in every country are. racism is not confined to certain people, places or issues. its something we encounter almost every day. whether it be through a *Harmless* joke, a snide comment or a violent argument, racism is everywhere. there is nothing anyone can do to stop it, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.

    • J says:

      07:32pm | 23/06/09

      Kelly,

      I fully support your argument.

    • Mark Nicholson says:

      10:15am | 24/06/09

      Racism?? You try walking to the state of origin tonight in a maroon jersey and see if you get any comments. Racist! Sheesh we are a country that is full of tribal alegiances worn proudly when ever provoked. But that is what makes this country so bloody great. Forget the politically correct movement. kill it off today. Lets get back to the culturally insensitive sexist good all days when we could laugh without fear. When a SNAG was on BBQ. If someone has a go at my race, creed, colour, religion or sexual preferences. Fair play. Come on I’m ready to have a go back. As long as we can do that without violence then we will move our nation forward. We are exercising our democratic right to criticiise without fear and hopefully with some good old australian toungue in cheek humour. Harden Up!!

    • Brendan says:

      10:43am | 24/06/09

      The author appears unsure of what “racism” is, and seems to be confusing it with pride in and love of one’s own country and culture, going by some of his examples.

      What on earth could possibly be wrong with simply noticing the differences between the appearances and habits of people from different parts of the world?

      It is a fairly meaningless term, and while some of Penberthy’s examples equate to racial prejudice - which is not a meaningless term - others don’t.

    • A says:

      09:58am | 25/06/09

      Jlaz -

      “Wogs, skips, sheep shaggers” if you think that is the most common racist terms used in Australia then i don’t know what country you are in. I am of half Filipino decent and me and my mates have all been called a range of words from primary school to now in our Adult life. “Wogs, skips, sheep shaggers” in my opinion are considered the weakest by most. How about “chink, gook, nigger, nip, curry muncher, constant referrals to “flied lice (supposedly how Asians say fried rice)”, small penises, naturally bad body odor, expected not to be able to speak English, told to go back to our own countries even though we were born here, told to go back on the boat we came on like we are “boat people”.

      Of course the everyday Anglo Saxon and most other Caucasian ethnic groups will think the “non-white” ethnicitys are being too sensitive, because they never in their life will be called anything worst than “cracker” or be stereotyped for being a bad dancer or at worst a racist.

      I wonder if the Anglo Saxon kid was treated like a foreigner growing up even though he was born in this country.

    • Johnno says:

      12:49am | 05/07/09

      How wrong can people be? If they think there is no racists in Australia, then how wrong they are - over 200 years aboriginals had to put up with it, and still today. Now other races are getting it now. Are those people blind or what? Open your eyes and get the mud out of them.

    • Confused says:

      06:14pm | 13/07/09

      And here it is again, oh how racism is a one way street.  I love it how caucasians are the target here, isn’t that being a bit racist perhaps?  For those who complain you’re most welcome to try living elsewhere in backwards political and social environments where some animals have more rights than women and whites, jews etc are the target of much stronger hatred.  Growing up in Ipswich in Qld, I was constantly called Whitey by aboriginals and asked if I’d “got a dollar mate?”.  While I did feel threatened a few times due to the off chance of some physical attack coming my way, I didn’t find it offensive because despite white being a colour, I am white, and it is a word and only a word.  Put the shoe on the other foot on the other hand and you’ve either got a fist fight or lawsuit on your hands.  I ask how are abbreviations like Jap and Paki are offensive?  They are shortened versions of the country names!!  If someone calls me an Aussie, should I be offended on this logic?  The only possible thing to find offensive is that the person using them is too lazy to use the full name.  Words on their own are not the problem - the old “sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me” could go a long way in society today.  When people are mistreated however based solely on their race - physically, in the job market etc, that is when there is an issue.

    • at where he's from says:

      02:19am | 14/07/09

      A few years back I was at a football game and a loud, rude supporter of the opposition (cronulla) made a lewd comment about a very young girl (too young in fact). When I told him to pipe down, I was told to “f—- off back to where I came from.” Seeing as I had lived my whole life in the area we were in at that point in time I informed him of that fact. I may have been too aggressive but he was a racist pervert and, well, if someone pushes me I tend to push them back.

      This is a beautiful, lucky country but too many people are just too damned ignorant to know it.

    • emp71y says:

      07:04am | 14/07/09

      Maybe it’s the Yanks who are being honest because they recognize that you avoid the ghetto because it’s unsafe, not because it’s full of blacks. Nothing euphemistic about it. There’s no reason to bring race into it unless that’s the point or unless you enjoy doing so (as the “knockabout” Sydney local appears to).

    • Liz says:

      09:16am | 22/07/09

      Racist remarks I’ve ever heard have come from immigrants,mostly from Britain.Anyone coming to this country needs to try to understand our history ,our ethos and our humour and to practice sensible behaviour suited to where they are.Is it sensitive to wear lots of bling,carry expensive phones etc in a depressed socio-economic area?No sensible Aussies would do that in some parts of the world if visiting.
      The racist slur is a cheap, effective way of criticising which can stir up whole continents.
      Sol took this country for all he could get and got a handsome golden handshake for doing a job no-one could be proud of, he got kicked out, racist jibes come cheap and he seems to have lost his sense of humour.
      Australians overseas either as visitors or ex-pats have suffered for decades from the cheap jibes of the well meaning who think they’re being amusing but just showing their ignorance.Most learn to give as good as they get.The techniques vary, from a throw away remark to a lecture on Australian history.
      Some groups of people are quick to take offense, others love to be victims and practice it as a way of life, others are fair game for being accused.Think about it!

    • Julian Thomas says:

      11:41pm | 29/07/09

      Dave, 3 degrees really, so when are you getting a REAL job then?

    • Julian Thomas says:

      11:51pm | 29/07/09

      stand up any country with more than 150 countries, and thousands of cultures represented, the rest of you can sit down , you are all racist in comparison to us

    • Fortune Dagger says:

      10:09am | 07/01/10

      Penbo, agree with you 100%.
      I’m a first-gen with Germanic and Asiatic parents - I speak the best Strine (maaate) and received a first-rate suburban Aussie upbringing. Like you I’ve spent 40 years explaining “where I come from” to people who ask, sometimes from benign motives, sometimes not. Living in country towns for nearly a decade as an adult was, well, interesting at times. And all the rest of it.
      Sure, casual low-level racism won’t kill us, and Australia isn’t alone in exhibiting it (I’ve travelled). Much of it is meant in a jokey fashion, and I get when it’s meant as a joke. And sure it’s not just white-on-coloured (although much is).
      But would the denialists stop denying there is racism in Australia? It smacks of a ‘white-wash’. If you read to the last paragraph, the suggestion is to have “a bit of a think about [it]”. Surely that’s not too harmful to our Australian way of life.
      Penbo’s editorial is spot-on.

    • Scott says:

      10:15am | 21/01/10

      This is a major issue, there are SO many things written just here, this all pains, depresses and angers me deeply.
      I’ve had to go on about this a lot recently, so I shall make this is short as possible.
      Australia was founded, settled and built by British (Cornish, English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh) people. Australia IS a British Dominion. Other people who have come here since, who for the most part are not wanted or needed, have absolutely zero right to say anything about Australia. Racist/Racism are emotive terms used to sidetrack any discussion, and to smear those who speak up in defence of their own people and country.
      Australians must protect Australia. To put it bluntly, and in place of many more apt phrases, Australia must GET racist!
      The other pouring in here care not one jot for us and they DESPISE each other. Australia is not a wellspring and a cashcow to be used by other peoples of the world. We owe NOTHING to any other peoples. The sole non-White peoples within Australia that we have any responsibility to are the Aboriginals, who are the conquered people of this land. What is going on now is a covert/not so covert invasion, in all but name. It is the birthright and duty of genuine British Australians to speak up in defence of our own country.

 

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