Live tonight: The Punch team will blog here tonight during John Safran’s show. Join us from 9.30pm

I have some blunt advice for some of the people who will be reading this article on The Punch. And it is not the kind of advice you would expect from the ABC’s Director of Television.

Smell the glove: Safran gets a noseful of Mahalia Barnes' stolen undies.

My message is this: think carefully before you settle into the couch tonight for the 9.30pm premiere of John Safran’s comedy-documentary Race Relations. If you think you are going to be offended or outraged (or want to be offended or outraged) then don’t tune in.

This ABC program is not for everyone. It was not designed to be. By scheduling the series at 9.30pm and attaching an M warning the ABC is signalling that this is challenging fare. John Safran’s Race Relations contains material that some viewers will disagree with or find distasteful.

As Television Director, it would be a far easier decision for me to walk away from a program like John Safran’s Race Relations, to schedule something less confronting, more mainstream in its appeal. But neither I nor the ABC can afford to hide behind a risk-averse approach to commissioning and programming new material.

Part of the ABC’s role is to provide innovative content for its diverse audiences.  Innovation necessarily involves a willingness to take risks, to be inventive and open to fresh ideas. It also means pushing boundaries – boundaries that some, often many, would prefer not to be pushed.

The net result can be content which challenges community sensibilities.

A lot of people forget that the ABC has a long and proud history of edgy comedy programming – stretching right back to Norman Gunston, through Chris Lilley’s We Can Be Heroes and Summer Heights High. All of these programs pushed boundaries, caused people to wince and provoked newspaper headlines. The controversy was not for its own sake, but to pursue serious themes; to make people think.

Imagine what would have happened if the ABC had baulked at the last minute on those programs, shelving the material because of pre-screening controversy. Yes, there is a risk in going first. But it is worth noting that the commercial media, which is quick to accuse the ABC of courting controversy, is very keen to exploit interest in these programs and then to chase the talent with big contracts when they win acceptance and critical acclaim.

The ABC backs John Safran’s Race Relations because it believes its audience is intelligent enough to make up its own mind on the material; to make its own assessment of Safran’s unique personal journey and the way in which he plunges into sensitive areas like cross-cultural, interracial and inter-faith love.

Safran is one of Australia’s leading comic talents and social commentators. He is an award winning program maker who as writer/presenter of John Safran vs. God and John Safran’s Music Jamboree for SBS won a total of four AFI awards for Best Comedy and Innovative program concept.

He was a standout in the first series of Race Around the World on the ABC, where he made his television debut and has a loyal fan base on triple J’s Sunday Night Safran. For a decade now he has been providing unique insights into Australian society and culture.  His style is intelligent, irreverent and irascible. He takes on the holy cows of culture and tackles them head on. 

To me, the strength of the series and Safran’s work is that the comedy emerges out of his genuine exploration of issues around cultural identity and deeply felt personal experiences where relationships have gone wrong as a result of cultural conflict. While he interviews a variety of people throughout the series, it’s always John himself, in all his confusion, who remains the butt of the joke.

It has been interesting watching some of the on-line chat forums sparked by some of the more predictable tabloid headlines of the past week. Yes, there have been calls for the ABC to yank John Safran’s Race Relations, to sever its links with the comedian. But the more predominant response to the outrage has been “Don’t prejudge the issue” and “Let me make up my own mind”.
I endorse those latter views.

I hope that most of the audience will tune in because they know John’s work and who he is and they know they will be guaranteed an entertaining and thought-provoking program.

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    • AFR says:

      01:48pm | 21/10/09

      But at the end of the day, should our taxes pay for this idiot to sniff undies?

    • Kia says:

      01:56pm | 21/10/09

      Bet you the dogooders of the world are rubbing their little hands together over the premiere of this show tonight…they are probably working on their arguments already, fingers poised on speed dial with ABC’s number programmed in, ready to make their calls of complaint!

      Personally, I’m looking forward to the show!

    • Chris says:

      02:06pm | 21/10/09

      As a television director do you think you could do some important things like tackle bias on the ABC? Kerry Obrien beggars belief…

    • ShaneO says:

      02:06pm | 21/10/09

      Kim.

      Didn’t need your warning - don’t watch anything with that clown Safron in it anyway. Not because he is confronting (for lack of a better term) - I just don’t think he’s funny.

    • Chris says:

      02:12pm | 21/10/09

      Bit hard to debate aspects of a show before it’s even aired, but AFR if you think all he’s doing is sniffing undies, maybe you’d be happier if he was doing blackface.

      Kim, no idea why you should be warning conservative viewers NOT to watch the show. Seems to go against the whole point of confronting and thought provoking humour doesn’t it?

      That said, hope there are enough brown underpants in Aunty’s offices, sounds like you guys are quite literally s**tting it.

    • Gunner says:

      02:13pm | 21/10/09

      I love this kind of edgy comedy which doesn’t toe the line but jumps right across it. The only reason that shows like this or chaser are taken off air is because a current affair programs dont like to be made a fool of, or they think that since they can’t talk about it the issue doesn’t exist

    • Daniel says:

      02:14pm | 21/10/09

      If the conservative types can complain about content they don’t like, then I figure I can get in on the act too. I demand the ABC stop wasting my tax dollars on producing/licensing trash such as: Landline, the sports section of the ABC news, any human interest story in the news, Taggart, Midsummer Murders,  Gardening Australia, any lawn bowls, and the Bill. All funds saved should be put towards producing more controversial comedy shows.

    • Chris says:

      02:14pm | 21/10/09

      “But at the end of the day, should our taxes pay for this idiot to sniff undies? “
      Co Sign

    • Josh says:

      02:16pm | 21/10/09

      Oh god, first comment is “should our taxes be paying for this?”.

      It didn’t take long.

      There are lots of things people don’t like our taxes paying for. I for one don’t particularly care for subsidising people’s breeding rights but you give some and you get some and I love what the ABC do and continue to bring to the media in Australia and am happy my taxpayer dollars are hard at work with them.  The ABC do push the boundaries, as they should but they do so without it being a mess of a reality show like the ill-fated Big Brother. It’s thought provoking and intelligent television. Keep it up Kim!

    • Jyoti says:

      02:19pm | 21/10/09

      AFR - Yes lets sum up an entire series from one act.

    • RJB says:

      02:19pm | 21/10/09

      You want to limit your programming content to a particular audience but take money off everyone to produce it. The ABC has form with its balance (read Labor bias) but I will agree the ABC has a history of edgy comedy, starting with it’s appoinment of television director.

    • h says:

      02:20pm | 21/10/09

      Bravo.

      @afr: as a taxpayer, I say yes. Comedy has always been the path to real debate in this country, since political arena is too conservative/christian/right-wing to actually explore difficult issues. Like him or not, Safran *goes there*.

    • Patrick says:

      02:22pm | 21/10/09

      Get over it AFR. So you can’t afford to buy yourself a sherbet bomb because the nasty ABC took your 8 cents off you for the unworthy cause of commercial free qaulity programing and balanced news reporting (read centrist, IE, to be left of the far right is not to be leftist). Well boo frikity hoo.

    • Matthew says:

      02:23pm | 21/10/09

      Kim, I’d like to congratulate you on making a publically tough decision, and I hope you’re ready for ‘public backlash’ and ‘public outrage’, because we all know the politically correct nutjobs are already looking for the next person to crucify…  OH WAIT!  Safran’s already done that. 

      A round of applause for free speech and freedom of expression.  Fight the good fight.

    • djc says:

      02:24pm | 21/10/09

      Come on Chris, Red Kerry usually does a reasonable job at disguising if not removing bias. But Tony Jones displays his without any hint of restraint.

    • Manik says:

      02:25pm | 21/10/09

      What a bunch of hypocrites the ABC has become. The ABC delighted, no revelled, in the controversy that engulfed Hey! Hey! It’s Saturday’s! recent flirtation with controversy. There were massive amounts of editorialising about standards and where Australia was now and the poor judgment and taste in allowing the Black Minstrel act… and now here they are defending a person who quite frankly isn’t funny and never has been, acting in a manner we associate with fetishism not mainstream programming.

    • AJ says:

      02:28pm | 21/10/09

      Chris, the stereotype about the ABC’s left-wing biased is boring and old, and more importantly, just plain wrong.  In fact, Aunty gives more positive coverage to Coalition than to Labor, and more positive coverage of the Coalition than any other network, even News Corp-owned TV media.

      But perhaps most significantly, complaints about media bias are the height of arrogance.  It infers that ‘I’m smart enough to see through the slant on this story, but nobody else is, so I must warn all the stupid masses’.  This is a phenomenon seen on both the left (complaining about The Australian and Fox News, and possibly even The Punch) and the right (complaining about the ABC, The Age and MSNBC).  In an age of almost unlimited information, asserting that people can’t make up their own minds or seek information to verify or combat a perspective presented by a broadcaster suggests that the populace shouldn’t be trusted.

      In short, basic democratic values fail.

    • Jasper says:

      02:33pm | 21/10/09

      Chris, I’ve seen “Red” Kerry grill plenty of Labour politicians in my time. The man is professional enough to not let his politics interfere with his job, he’s certainly no Bill O’Reilly!

      But at last, I am glad that someone in the ABC has the guts to stand up and say “the off switch is there, use it”.

      Satire is not always funny and often it is very cruel and harsh. Anyone who has read Jonathan Swift’s “Modest Proposal” would know this…

    • Susan says:

      02:34pm | 21/10/09

      Kim, the public has every right to watch and object if they feel so inclined. Your text today implies that anyone who COULD possibly object shouldn’t watch. I applaud the ABC’s willingness to be ‘edgy’ but in an oh so incestuous Australian ‘talent’ pool the line between edgy and trash can be very thin. I dislike Safran and I won’t watch his clone like rubbish but I find your attempts to filter agreeable viewers really poor.

    • Aunty! says:

      02:35pm | 21/10/09

      Vote [1] Patrick!    And thanks for the piece, Mr Dalton. Good to see Aunty on the front foot.

      ABC bias, eh. Now let’s see…where’s that survey showing any bias is to the right if anything, not to the left at all. Nah, bugger it. Look for it yer whingeing selves.

      I don’t like everything on the ABC and in a free country I’m more than happy to pay more than 8c a day to know its there, doing its job.

    • stewart says:

      02:36pm | 21/10/09

      Political correctness has gone to far and I dont really care what is said. I also dont like his humour and wont be watching. Without knowing whats on it I don’t know what to say. If it is anything to do with different races the only ones discriminated are true blue aussies and having our choices taken away and usually because of our generosity.  It would be better to scrap all bills and laws dealing with race discrimination. Ohhh I could go on.

    • Hendo says:

      02:36pm | 21/10/09

      AFR, perhaps you’ll be happier tuning in to Celebity Masterchef on Ch10 or City Homicide on Ch7. But please, can you let the grown-ups enjoy watching the ABC without saying anything nasty?

    • Weary says:

      02:40pm | 21/10/09

      To AFR - your comment is half right.  They are OUR taxes, not yours.  Therefore it seems fair to include content that appeals to ALL tax payers, rather than just a small handful of outspoken conservatives.  I applaud the Director at ABC for standing up and squashing the endless complaints from selfish whingers who believe the ABC is their private personal channel.

    • Schartos says:

      02:42pm | 21/10/09

      If it makes me laugh, then I’m happy for my tax dollars to pay this idiot to sniff undies. Or should I say, I’m happy for my tax dollars to make me laugh even if it’s someone sniffing undies - period.

      No pun intended.

      I applaud the ABC for it’s stance on this issue. Even if it turns out I don’t like the show, I’m still pleased. It gives me hope that when the next edgy comedy comes along - one I might like - I have faith that the ABC will consider airing it, rather then trembling before the wowsers who, usually, aren’t very funny.

      Let’s censor Television, in fact all media, ourselves, by choosing what we will and wont watch, read, play or otherwise engage in. If tonight’s show does well with ratings, then we obviously want to see it. If it does poorly, it will probably be axed. Take the power into your own hands folks and vote with the push of a button.

      Here’s a tester for you. If you don’t find this amusing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC9fpUySw4E&feature=related
      then don’t watch tonights show. Believe me, there are plenty of people who found this very amusing.

    • FFT says:

      02:43pm | 21/10/09

      AFR, I think ABC in general is an excellent use of tax payers money.  Our taxes are certainly better spent on someone like John Safran than it is on an unjust war in Iraq, or pork barrelling in marginal electorates, or politicians superannuation, perks, flights etc etc.  Shows like The Gruen Transfer, the Chasers, Enough Rope, Summer Heights High, Kath ‘n’ Kim (poached by C7) and even Media Watch are excellent precisely because they don’t cater to the brain dead masses.  Besides I think you’d be surprised how many shows on commercial TV are also funded by taxpayers and they’re complete drivel so ABC makes better use of its funding than the commercial networks do.

    • Iain says:

      02:47pm | 21/10/09

      When they first aired, Monty Python were considered edgy, confronting, rude, crude and crass. They were trail-blazers for a new generation of comedians.

      Comedy is meant to confront and to jolt people both for a laugh but to get the brain juices flowing. John Safran is out there and people either love him or hate him.

      If you are in the hate him club or are too conservative to handle some “out there” comedy, tune into some of the CSI franchise crap on the other channels at 9:30 instead (or get out of your cardigan and slippers and have an early night).

      I will be getting my 8c worth from the ABC tonight and hopefully enjoying every cent of it!

    • Chris says:

      02:48pm | 21/10/09

      Grant, great a bunch of left leaning academics some whom have worked for the Labor Party previously (see Andrew Leigh) give the ABC a clean bill of health how reassuring. 
      AJ just compare any Obrien interview with a Liberal to a Labor polly, Its as simple as that.

    • Chris says:

      02:51pm | 21/10/09

      An independent study produced by someone who worked for the Labor party and has strong links to the Labor party saying the ABC is biased to the right. It would be funny if it were not so serious…

    • Rusty says:

      02:53pm | 21/10/09

      At least the ABC is willing to show fresh, Australian content whether it is controversial or not. Channels 7, 9 and 10 could learn something from them instead of giving us constant repeats of tired amercian sitcoms. People may not like this particular show but have a look at what else the ABC has given us (Gruen Transfer, Spicks & Specks, Enough Rope) and compare what we get from the others (20:1, Farmer wants a Wife, Aussie Idol).

    • Margaret Gray says:

      02:59pm | 21/10/09

      Rodd,

      “...Research seems to indicate otherwise. Are you sure you’re not just seeing what you want to see…”

      from your link:  “according to researchers from the Australian National University”

      The ANU is hardly the bellwether for lucid and objective research.

      Rather, it’s right up there with realclimate and wikipedia as writers of some of the best comedy since Socrates got his left one caught on the swinging door in the Men’s Room at the Parthenon.

      Nice try though.

    • 54Sandgroper says:

      02:59pm | 21/10/09

      I’ll be watching it with gritted teeth. His voice is like fingernails on a blackboard, but *what* he says is often worth the pain.

      As for the ‘sniff undies’ comment, AFR, how about you watch to see what the scene is about before you criticise. The ABC is one place where I’m happy to see my taxes go.

    • Sue says:

      03:02pm | 21/10/09

      Can’t wait.  I love The Saf and his seemingly ever-present questioning nature about everything and anything!

    • Patrick says:

      03:06pm | 21/10/09

      Chris, Kerry O’Brien is a journalist and interviewer who usually but not always hosts a show named the 7.30 Report that airs at 7.30pm untill 8.00pm Monday to Friday, for a grand total of 2 and a half hours air time out of a full weeks programing of 168 hours. If you are going to talk about bias at the ABC you are going to have to broaden your analysis a little.

      Does Kerry O’brien have biased political beliefs? Of course he does you twit, everybody has biased beliefs of some kind, but even so there is no other journalist in the country of his qaulity and he has every right to grill Right wing MP’s for answers, and if they cannot give proper answers, well bully for them. Why do you consider O’brien’s 2.5 hours weekly air time a reflection on the entirety of the ABC?

    • Samwise says:

      03:14pm | 21/10/09

      What that? ANU “hardly the bellwether for [sic] lucid and objective research” eh. Oh dear. Exposed, eh….yet another hotbed of narsty socialists is it?

      No lucid, objective research eh. Poor old Sir Mark Oliphant OA etc etc!  Oh dear. And what was his bias? Why, he was a one of them narsty Australian Democrats! Very suss, eh.

      Rather empty scritching around in the dust there for any tiny little bit of grit, aren’t we?

    • Scot says:

      03:15pm | 21/10/09

      What a poor sick perverted person. And the ABC is using Tax Payers money to support such a sick person. SO SAD.

    • John for PM says:

      03:22pm | 21/10/09

      Thanks Kim

      Finally an intelligent analysis and well considered comment.

      To John I will continue to tolerate the mindless hysteria (dribble) that the self absorbed whip up so long as you continue to provide what has become a fantastic and insightful body of work. Well done.

    • Tim says:

      03:28pm | 21/10/09

      Margaret Gray,
      Yes the ANU has secretly been infiltrated by socialists and greens. Everyone should know not to trust any academic. In fact never trust anyone with that book learning. They tell lies, dammit. Lies!!

    • Chris D says:

      03:29pm | 21/10/09

      “Rather, it’s right up there with realclimate and wikipedia as writers of some of the best comedy since Socrates got his left one caught on the swinging door in the Men’s Room at the Parthenon.”

      If the show flops, at least that’s made me laugh.

    • hoofman says:

      03:30pm | 21/10/09

      I just love it when all the usual suspects complain about ABC bias and wasting their taxes on sick humour. Makes me wish the ABC would provoke them more.

    • Peter says:

      03:32pm | 21/10/09

      Does that mean the ABC will show porn in the Safran timeslot once the series finishes? I like this new attitude!

    • Kerin W says:

      03:32pm | 21/10/09

      Sure hope there won’t be any Yanks watching.  They tend to get offended rather easily these days!!

    • h says:

      03:32pm | 21/10/09

      This h, not to be confused with the earlier h, agrees that Aussies do have the right to watch and complain - after all they paid for it. Kim, I generally think the ABC is of much higher quality than the bogan trash on most channels - but yeah people can complain about what they paid for.

      ABC does have a role to play in being different/innovative ect, but without saying anything about Safran’s show - which is yet to be aired - thats not an excuse for some of the cruelty which tries to hide behind the title “comedy” - here’s a hint from comic legend Harry Shearer of Simpsons/Spinal Tap fame: If you don’t love the people you mock it isn’t funny, it’s just hurtful (and as an audience member - depressing)

    • SM says:

      03:42pm | 21/10/09

      The funny thing about those who ramble on about O’Brien/Jones Labor bias is that they announce it as if they’ve just discovered some earth shattering piece of news and my goodness we should consider ourselves so fortunate that they’ve decided to share this startling inside information with the rest of us mugs.

      But as any sensible person who’s watched hundreds of interviews conducted by both knows, they go just as hard on both sides, regardless of what they’re personal views might be.

    • heather says:

      03:42pm | 21/10/09

      I find the programs dished up by the likes of 7 & 9 infinitely more distasteful than John Safran (who has a really irritating voice, and is not particularly funny); I detest the type of program that is so common nowadays, with true life medical dramas/ car crash/ surf rescue/ etc programs, WTF wants to watch sick and dying people, or have someone relive some trauma? I’m not remotely interested in other people’s sob stories, especially as some of them seem deeply deeply traumatised by incredibly trivial things…I’d rather watch some trashy humour like, er, John Safran. However, obviously lots of sicko rubbernecking voyeurs, who get off on other people’s pain, obviously do enjoy such tripe. And we won’t even mention gutter journalism like TT and ACA. But I don’t whinge to the hierarchy of 7 and 9, I JUST DON’T WATCH THE SHIT.

    • ABC rocks says:

      03:44pm | 21/10/09

      Taxes spent shock! ABC now costs 11c* per day! Each!

      I’m shocked. Deeply shocked. Utter waste! Utter bias!

      Did you know ABC dares to spend some of that on -gasp, shock - lawn bowls? Shocking! Bias bowls! And paid for by our taxes! Foam stutter rage (muffled noises off).

      Put me on the list, too. I don’t mind helping ABC pay for stuff other people like to watch, or for niche stuff, etc. Part of what makes us Aussies, eh.

      *ABC annual report 2006-07, ABS Yearbook 2007

    • AFR says:

      03:45pm | 21/10/09

      RE: the comments that i have judged the new series on one stunt. Perhaps I have, but I have also seen enough of this twerp over the years to know that he is waste of my/our taxes. And yeah, as the second “h” says: as a taxpayer, I have the full right to have an issue with it. And for Kim to compare Safran to Chris Lilley is ridiculous.

    • Chris says:

      03:53pm | 21/10/09

      Twit am I? Lets keep any debate civil and not resort to name calling shall we?
      “Why do you consider O’brien’s 2.5 hours weekly air time a reflection on the entirety of the ABC? “
      I dont, not once did I say the ABC was entirely biased, you see I just pointed out a shining example of bias on what is considered a marquee program, the former Whitlam staffer shines.
      In any other media organization Triolli would of been sacked for her actions the other day.
      Tony Jones lost me on his AWB and global warming crusade. Barry Cassidy shows balance even though he worked for Hawke and Chris Uhlmann I consider to be tuff on both sides so not all is rottern with aunty. But even my green voting buddies admit the ABC is left.
      What ever happened to the wearther guy after he ran as a Labor candidate in North Sydney? Unlike Maxine poor chap didnt get elected.

    • AJ says:

      03:55pm | 21/10/09

      Margaret Gray, I find your attempt to trash the ANU as some kind of socialist nirvana to be disturbing and bizarre.  Not only is it rated as our finest intellectual institution, but both John Howard and Kevin Rudd, not to mention academic peers around the world, have rated is as one of the highest-regarded institutions for all kinds of research.  Moreover, as pointed out above, your objections seem to be largely based upon a very limited, select viewing of the ABC.  Yes, there will be programs with a slant you disagree with.  But there also will be ones that I do.  I want both on there, you seem to want nothing that doesn’t march in lockstep with your personal viewpoint.

      And Chris, attacking a research document based upon the authour is stupid.  If you wish to attack the report on media bias, attack its methodology, if you have the time or inclination to do some actual analysis, rather than emotive, kneejerk pavlovian responses.

    • Steve Smith says:

      03:57pm | 21/10/09

      At the end of the day.. I don’t want my taxes paying for an “immoral war”.. you don’t want your taxes paying for an “immoral TV show”. Who has the bigger issue? And yet who makes the bigger noise. It’s easy to ignore a TV show, it’s harder to ignore a war.

    • Another thing says:

      04:00pm | 21/10/09

      The fact that AFR doesn’t like it doesn’t mean the show is a waste of money, tax or other wise. All it means is you, yourself, don’t like him. I don’t like Counterpoint much, or Chris Lilley, or Peter Rowsthorne, but so what? All still worth broadcasting.

      So the Lilley/Safran comparison is much the same case. AFR is confusing personal taste with broader worth. It’s not a valid conclusion. You just don’t like one of them. So flippin what?

      Much conservative angst revolves around that sort of false connection. If *I* don’t like it,  it *must* be a waste of tax. If *I* disagree it *must* be bias. Or the other old chestnut, it *must* be a lie. Tosh. Total, utter tosh.

      I, I, I. “I don’t like it” where have we heard *that* before. Just maybe AFR needs some more time to grow up a little. We’re not all picket fence/twinset clones, son.

      The ABC is *our* ABC. All of us. Even AFR.

    • Evan says:

      04:08pm | 21/10/09

      Kim, I’ve never head of you before, but I like you already.

      I’m a big fan of John Safran, both on television and radio, however I do find he has his short comings, (making fun of several commerial shows that I do enjoy, and bands, etc)

      As for ‘why should the abc pay for this stuff’ why should the abc pay to keep triple j on the air, after all, they devote a full 3 hours on tuesday night to heavy metal, the music of the devil! imagine that!

      Keep fighting to good fight Kim.

    • Patrick says:

      04:16pm | 21/10/09

      Aplogies Chris, I simply figured that your ad hominem attack on the ANU as a way to discredit the findings of their report entitled me to throw a lazy insult at you. I was wrong of course.

    • Razor says:

      04:17pm | 21/10/09

      Sell the ABC.

      I don’t have a problem with Safran except that his humour hasn’t moved on from when he was first discovered in Race Around the World (which I quite enjoyed).

      In this day of multiple forms of free and pay communication there is no longer a requirement for the government to provide this service.  State and Local governments don’t provide broadcasting services - why should the Federal government now?

      If we didn’t have it today and a poltical party suggested instituting the ABC they would be laughed at.

      Sell it now and reduce our debt.

    • jay jay wonder says:

      04:24pm | 21/10/09

      Different horses for different courses. Saf always leaves you with something to think about once the spectacle is over. Frankly i find Songs of Praise: Band Classics this sunday a waste of money, but i’m sure others out there will be tuning in. Anywayi’ll be watching, it’s my abc too

    • AR says:

      04:37pm | 21/10/09

      Thank God for the ABC! Bravo to Kim Dalton! And three cheers for Safran!!!

    • Colin says:

      04:39pm | 21/10/09

      My political views, in general, are centre right. That means I find Kerry O’Brien’s attitude to Coalition politicians distasteful, while I find that he gives Labor politicians an easier ride. His own feelings are quite clear. That’s fair enough though, as long as he’s upfront about it. It being against the ABC’s charter is another matter entirely.
      That centre right view though also means that I believe strongly in the right to free speech. Not just things that I agree with or couldn’t care less about, but things that offend me. In fact, if free speech was only about things that didn’t offend, that right wouldn’t be worth a rats, would it? There are limits of course, which would include children, but heck, if somebody’s racist, they have a right to put forth their racist views. I find that disagreeable, but that’s my problem.
      So John Safran, in my view, should say what he feels he must say. Wednesdays are quite awesome now on the ABC calendar.
      Personally, I find him challenging and intelligent, a fresh breath of air compared to the inane banter that passes for humour on commercial channels.
      It’s a pity though that Aunty allows herself to be dominated by so many people of the same political hue. It would be more interesting to see the predominant politically correct, sanctimonious view being challenged.

    • AJ says:

      04:41pm | 21/10/09

      Razor:

      I do hope you’re not contesting that free-to-air TV is free (as opposed to being paid for by rather demanding advertisers).  The role of the ABC (theoretically, and I acknowledge that it doesn’t always succeed) is to provide programming not dictated by profit motive, which, as the fine examples of Triple J and Monty Python have shown, are a means of producing high-quality content that commercial providers wouldn’t touch.  Or at least wouldn’t touch until proven to be popular by publicly-supported broadcasters.

      And if you’re referring to the internet/youtube, well, hardly the same quality standards apply then, do they?

    • wolf says:

      04:45pm | 21/10/09

      Good to hear you going on the front foot to defend quality local programming Kim.

      Where were you when The Chaser and Hungry Beast needed your support earlier in the year?

      Oh and @Manik: If you don’t like it I’m sure you can get DVD’s of Kingswood Country, Love Thy Neighbour, Till Death Do Us Part and On The Busses to keep you entertained.

    • D says:

      04:46pm | 21/10/09

      Sell the ABC, Razor, and have another 7,9 and 10?  You jest.

      It’s nice to have some variety on TV for those not into brain-numbing ‘reality’ shows and news/current affairs stories which are sometimes nothing more than company ads.

    • AFR says:

      05:06pm | 21/10/09

      So “Another Thing” - i’m not allowed to have an opinion? Thanks also for the baseless assumptions about me. Do you read palms as well?

    • Jono says:

      05:21pm | 21/10/09

      So lets see, if its 11 cents a day for Aunty thats something like 0.4583 cents an hour.  Now, excuse my ignorance but if we work on the theory that Safran’s program is 10 eps at 1 hour each thats 4.583 cents for a series.  Therefore im paying 4.583 cents EVERY YEAR for John Safran.  Please someone tell me again i should be outraged at the ABC wasting my tax payer dollars.  Oh and please someone tell me again that i should be outraged at the afront to my morals, because i mean how foolish i am to think i would have the right do i have to decide that.  Long live the ABC!

    • Free Thinker says:

      05:23pm | 21/10/09

      Thanks Kim. ABC, Triple j and comedians such as John Saffran and Wil Andreson are exactly the kind of entertainment I’m after and just can’t find elsewhere (with the exception of sbs who are picking up some of the best shows on tv such as entourage and skins - how are the ‘majors’ missing these gems?) What I find offensive is REPETITION ie showing 2 and a half men ten times a week, or playing the same song on the radio 20 times a day - we’re really turning into a society that caters to the lowest common denominator in order to avoid offending anyone, and the advertising dollar now dictates everything. Sad.

    • Joe says:

      05:34pm | 21/10/09

      Please clean up Vitriol’s bias while you are here Kim.

    • Eric says:

      05:39pm | 21/10/09

      I doubt the ABC would ever do anything *really* edgy—such as attacking the sacred cows of left-wing politics.

      The ABC is a Labor Party mouthpiece, a sad waste of what once might have been a worthwhile enterprise.

      Time to cut off the money.

    • RDC says:

      05:47pm | 21/10/09

      Jeez AFR - get a grip.  Another Thing said exactly the opposite - you have an opinion. But that’s all you have, an individual opinion. 

      I agree with A-T. You’re entitled to your opinion. It doesn’t follow that any programme *you* don’t like is a waste of *our* taxes.

      Our ABC - long may it broadcast.

    • Luke Smith says:

      05:49pm | 21/10/09

      Where was this message when The Chaser Boys were on TV. Safran gets to stay on with public outrage. Those outraged at Chaser convinced the ABC to take if off. Why Safran gets to stay on and Chaser gets the flick??? If I were them I would feel ripped off. When Chaser was on it was like “No, you can’t do that on TV”. Safran does the same thing and it is like “Well if you don’t like it don’t watch”. Love the consistency!!!

    • Justin says:

      05:52pm | 21/10/09

      The disclaimer for this show should be only for those with intelligence who don’t mind being challenged.
      This should have also been used for the Chaser, then we would not have got the overreaction that we saw.
      If you want your comedy to be non-challenging, dumbed down, then watch Two and Half men instead. Let us grown ups watch ABC comedies in peace.
      Agree with earlier comments, there is plenty of stuff on the ABC that I don’t like hence if I was a child I would call it a waste of money, Songs of Praise for example,  but have to be thoughtful of a difference in tastes and opinions

    • Steve says:

      05:57pm | 21/10/09

      Saf to me is less of a comedian and more of a social commentator with a sense of humour. His humour may not be shared by you, but there is little denying him commentary is more often than not very apt. Yes it may be confronting, so can the world be if you bother to look past than your wallet.

      Also it’s pretty hard to write off the undies scene without knowing it’s context Maybe it is wrong I haven’t seen it yet. But I can be sure it’s not simply for haha look at me I’m sniffing undies jokes and will come with a fare bit of substance.

    • Steve says:

      06:08pm | 21/10/09

      24hr of broadcast x 60min a hour = 1440min a day @

      11c tax a day / 1440mins = cost of 0.0076c tax per min (not factoring in Radio/ABC 2/Admin etc)

      0.0076c x 30min show = 0.23c tax for the show. thats point 23 not 23c

      Tell you what AFR I will give you a cent. You can keep the profit and quite.

    • Kim says:

      06:09pm | 21/10/09

      Could all ABC staffers please get off this blog now and get back to work.
      Regards,
      Kim.

    • Jack from Perth says:

      06:10pm | 21/10/09

      I find the BBC period dramas more offensive than Safran but I’m sure all the (over paid / under worked) pensioners have already drafted letters to their local metropolitan daily. “What is this world coming to?” Lets save the valuable page space for real content (like advertisements for erectile dysfunction).

    • Jack from Perth says:

      06:12pm | 21/10/09

      @AFR here in WA, we pay our treasurer to sniff chairs. What’s the difference?

    • Nige says:

      06:16pm | 21/10/09

      AFR.
      I suspectt that our tax payer dollars already pay for public servants who partake in undie sniffing. the difference being that their laundry is not aired on television ( pun intended).

    • kayal novotny says:

      06:48pm | 21/10/09

      John Safran is a brilliantly smart journalist.I have new found respect for ABC. This is what community television is about, don’t like it, watch Rove

    • Keith says:

      07:19pm | 21/10/09

      Scott, of the ABC, ought in this case repeat, depending on his sense of doom, “I’m just going outside, I may be sometime”, in relation to his predecessor of the Antartic, and his decision as chairman .to allow this nonsense on the public broadcaster, which has in recent times,  lowered the bar in some instances, to the common denominator, by including questionable content in the name of competition with commercial networks, not included in the charter of the ABC. How does this Gen (?) chairman rationalise his decisions, in terms of his authority?

    • iansand says:

      07:43pm | 21/10/09

      Has anyone seen one positive story about Robert Mugabe or Kim Il Sung on the ABC?  I haven’t.  Talk about bias.

    • Karl says:

      08:15pm | 21/10/09

      Thumbs up ABC for continuing to live outside the box.

      I will watch tonight and if I like it I will watch it again. If I don’t, I won’t watch it again.

    • mac says:

      08:19pm | 21/10/09

      “challenging community sensibilities” makes it sound as if they are tackling real issues, when in reality it’s just someone stiffing underwear. although i don’t necessarily find it offensive, it doesn’t sound funny or entertaining, which is the reason you would watch a show, not because it’s edgy.

    • GF says:

      08:30pm | 21/10/09

      Remember when it was ‘your ABC’?  It appears its now ‘their ABC’ and if you don’t like it you can go stuff yourself!  What a joke.

    • Morgan says:

      08:38pm | 21/10/09

      What is the point of this? People getting worked up and paranoid over a show they haven’t even watched yet is a pathetic and infantile reaction brought on by a bored and unthinking society.
      The simple inescapable fact of the matter is that people are different, be it personally, region or race.
      This kind of idea that people need to completely ignore this fact of life in order to live peacefully and respectfully is nonsense.
      By acknowledging our differences and getting comfortable with them is the only way this world is ever going to start getting the hell along.
      John Safran generally makes more fun of himself then anyone or anything else in his series.
      His shows, despite being comedies, are some of the cleverest and most informative things being broadcast today, which is a testament to him as an entertainer and probably an indictment of the state of our media today.
      The simple fact is, the same people will be offended by this are the same people that always get offended: zealots and the ill-informed. Unfortunately they’re a minority that know how to be heard.
      In a time where our right to media freedom is heavily under attack, be it corporate interests and ownership of outlets, Minister Conroy’s religiously and politically motivated ‘clean-feed,’ and an on-growing homogenization of anything with half a brain leading to the majority of our news programs focusing on or consisting of only yellow journalism.
      While it’s comforting to see the ABC’s not going to try to rein in shows after leaving the chaser team to hang out to dry; it’s statements like this that put a show into the cross-hairs of our social commentators like the self-righteous talk back hosts desperate just to have something to discuss and current affairs programs whom only function seem to be whipping the undereducated into brainless furors and keeping media watch busy.
      On a planet d full of sex slavery, starvation and children under 10 filled with drugs and given AKs, if you can honestly say your biggest complaint, the thing that offended your sensibilities was something a comedian did on TV, then you you be absolutely ashamed of yourself and how narrow your worldview truly is.
      I for one can’t wait to see this show and will anticipate it with baited breath.

    • Dan says:

      09:17pm | 21/10/09

      I too can’t wait. I love John Safran. I think he’s brilliant; funny, insightful, intelligent, creative, edgy. It won’t be to everyone’s tastes, but then again, that’s with most comedy. For those who are already attacking it, at least have the common sense of waiting unti it airs before you attack it.

    • Jason says:

      09:41pm | 21/10/09

      “If you don’t like it don’t watch - ABC” - Its a pitty the channel 7 boss did not say the say thing when Home And Away featured the lesbian storyline, instead they caved in and cut scenes.

    • Justin says:

      10:05pm | 21/10/09

      What a great show. well done JS.

    • Mike says:

      10:13pm | 21/10/09

      I actually rather enjoyed the program, although I cringed on more than one occasion. I’m looking forward to reading about all the outrage in tomorrow’s papers, however! If you don’t like it, find another channel.

    • Mark says:

      10:40pm | 21/10/09

      Even though I’m not keen on his annoying voice & way he puts thing across I have to say that this was a good show… Of course it’s slightly shocking - but no too much, and it does explore some interesting areas with a fun edge.. For the majority of the whingers I have to ask, which is more intelligent television - this or one of the many reality tv shows….the ABC is doing us proud in allowing creativity such as this and the unexpected preceeding program hungrybeast (i think) even if it offends a minority part of the population of viewers…

    • evil_roy says:

      10:50pm | 21/10/09

      People who watch John Safran are bored and infantile.

      Why can’t the ABC fund something worthwhile - like a new series of Race Around the World - those series were some of the best TV Australia has produced.  And it launched Safran’s career.

    • Liamo says:

      10:50pm | 21/10/09

      2 things,
      1 Morgan, you are 100% correct,
      2 John, brilliant,
      the sperm donations, the undies. Penny Wong.
      Originality is something lost in commercial TV.
      Well done

    • miked says:

      10:51pm | 21/10/09

      Whether you like safran or not, what this represents is a move forward for Australian television, at last we may see more though provoking, edgy and exciting content. The networks need to do something because the country’s youth and cultured types are switching off in droves and watching internet content instead

    • Pete says:

      11:12pm | 21/10/09

      So funny. Safran, your a genius

    • Chase Stevens says:

      11:17pm | 21/10/09

      I missed it! I am fail.

    • LostRoo says:

      12:07am | 22/10/09

      “If you do not like it, do not watch it”, said the boss. In the name of Freedom of Information, ABC should show porn, child abuse, bestiality,  and all sort of aberrations. Why to have laws and codes to protect the decency and the decorum of our society? Let us make a complete mess of our principles, respect and normal behaviour. All in name of F-U-N. The problem is, Safron is not funny at all. And if you think he is, I feel sorry for you and for your taste.
      That explains why we do not have any of the fine arts anymore. It is all gone.
      Sorry!

    • Helen says:

      08:32am | 22/10/09

      So let me get this straight. JS steals used underwear and sniffs it as a TV stunt and IDENTIFIES THE OWNERS BY NAME.

      How is that not
      (1) Primary school level humour, as opposed to the edgy / valuable / politically progressive humour most of you are imagining it to be
      (2)Actionable.

      How is this not just simply an attempt at humiliation, and not of anyone particularly powerful, either, just a couple of women who happen to be performers. How is it edgy and radical in any way? It’s just sad.

      I hope Barnes and the other woman sue, and sue the pants off him. And then maybe sniff them for good measure.

    • Not sorry says:

      08:42am | 22/10/09

      Jeez, Roo. Talk about wild overtstatement. You’re talking cobblers, exaggerated and unconnected cobblers at that. Yawnsome.

      Watch for Sunday Arts, among others. Or switch off.

    • Sonia says:

      03:24pm | 22/10/09

      I absolutely loved it and can’t wait for next week.

    • Tony says:

      09:26pm | 22/10/09

      You’ve got to be kidding. You call this entertaining thought provoking, intelligent humour???? What a load of absolute garbage.

      Safran is NOT funny. Neither is he a journalist. This is NOT cutting edge television, just a real desperate attempt at notoriety. with Safran exhibiting his egotistical, perverse, unethical and depraved personality.

      It was really pitiful to watch. Shame on the ABC.

    • Stewart Bush says:

      08:36am | 23/10/09

      Brilliant ,  the show asked the questions about how / if differing races are drawn to each other..a pretty bizzar way of doing it though..is a white aussie drawn to asian gals or jewish ect good question that goes pretty deep.
      but oh how yuckkk, I wonder if any skidmarks put him off his choice.. not very scientific..but a great way to get attention..

    • Gab says:

      10:19pm | 18/11/09

      I agree with Tony. What absolute rubbish. Its excruciating to watch, sarcastic and cynical.
      How does this idiot get his own television show? Every one of his shows seems to eventually lead to either his issues about not getting any female attention or a chance to talk about Judaism. Who really gives a fuck. Sarcasm is the lowest form of comedy.

    • mark2 says:

      08:34am | 19/11/09

      I don’t like change of any kind ..

      ABC, please bring back B&W TV.
      I’m sick of this colour nonsense

 

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