The largely confected stink over Tony Abbott’s decision to pass up an opportunity to visit Australian troops in Afghanistan should be the subject of future study by would-be spin doctors, flaks and aspiring massagers of the political message.

Tony Abbott and Julia Gillard at the funeral of Digger Jason Brown. Photo: Herald Sun

It’s a cautionary tale as to the quagmire you can land yourself in should you become vaguely newsworthy during a slow period in the news cycle.

Beyond that, it demonstrates how people in public life have to think carefully when they’re constructing an alibi for dodging what might be seen as an obligation.

The story about Abbott’s refusal to visit Afghanistan isn’t a non-story. But it’s hardly a story which warranted the 72 hours of high-rotation scrutiny it received, in a week when few other events threatened to knock it off the news pages.

But the person, or people, who deserve the credit for that are Tony Abbott and his staff.

Abbott’s silly explanation for not meeting the Diggers failed the front bar test, principally because he is known throughout the land for his physical fitness and endurance.

It’s kind of funny that a bloke who can run triathlons before breakfast and stay awake for the final three days of the election campaign is worried that he might feel a bit frazzled and frayed for a fairly unimportant meeting with an ideological ally in the British Tory Leader and Prime Minister David Cameron.

You’d think the two men are such kindred spirits, on most issues at least, that the Pommy PM wouldn’t mind if his soulmate from Down Under had to stifle the odd yawn or commandeer the percolater.

In the broader community, Abbott’s explanation had the unlikely effect of making him sound like a wuss, to use that evocative Australian term. A bit like the guy who, during a particularly busy period at work calls in saying he’s got a bit of an oomy tummy or a nasty sniffle and won’t be making in.

Liberal MPs said privately this week that they disputed the veracity of Abbott’s explanation. The more logical and likely reason for his non-attendance is that he just didn’t want to arrive in the backdraft of Julia Gillard’s visit, and get a three-second, blink-and-you’d-miss-it mention on the evening news bulletins, tacked on to the end of the reports of the Prime Minister’s trip.

There’s also a theory, which goes to Abbott’s often iconoclastic personal make-up, just he simply thought the trip was a bit of meaningless posturing given that he is not the prime minister anyway.

It’s certainly in keeping with Abbott’s fairly cynical line about some of the stuntier aspects of public life. You can imagine him concluding that the Diggers have got better things to do than pose for the cameras being patted on the back by a fellow who isn’t even running the country, and is already well-established as a strong supporter of the war effort.

Last year just a few days after the Black Saturday bushfires in Victoria I bumped into Abbott on a visit to Parliament House. By way of small talk I said that I’d been moved by some of the speeches members had given about the tragedy. Abbott disagreed, saying that he didn’t think that the Parliament was the proper venue for what he called “emoting”, and should concentrate instead on practical solutions.

It sounded like a hard-headed, even cold remark, but it was one which sat with his well-documented reputation for speaking his mind and going against prevailing orthodoxies, and you have to respect him for that.

Certainly, because of the furore this week, Abbott will be getting to Afghanistan sooner rather than later. His future visit will inevitably recall his failure to do so this week, and will be presented as a mildly shame-faced exercise. Behind the scenes, it will probably also be milked for all its worth by the ALP, as it has done this week with Abbott’s obvious and protracted discomfort over his non-visit.

But again, it was his glib line which got him there, creating a weird little story in the slowest of news weeks, and one which lasted much longer than his jetlag would have.

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    • Eric says:

      05:48am | 09/10/10

      That this non-story got so much coverage says more about the political sympathies of the media than it does about Tony Abbott’s character.

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      11:42am | 09/10/10

      Yes i agree , what a beat up the matter was , pushed by a Prime Minister who tried to make political mileage from something that amounted to nothing .
      Abbott was always going to Afghanistan , that was confirmed by A.D.F. personel .  What is it with the media ?  They want to claim that it was Tony Abbott’s excuse for not visiting the troops with Gillard that cause the ridiculous conjecture that occurred after his comment.
      Not true !  it was the media’s playing up of the comment that caused the silly rot.
      It is clear enough why he did not go with the P.M. but a media intent on a beat up story , bored on with relentless intent to embarrass the Opposition leader for his excuse.
      It was a story wiyh a rating of zilch , deserving nothing but contempt for those who carried it to heights of stupidity.

    • acotrel says:

      07:23am | 10/10/10

      ‘Last year just a few days after the Black Saturday bushfires in Victoria I bumped into Abbott on a visit to Parliament House. By way of small talk I said that I’d been moved by some of the speeches members had given about the tragedy. Abbott disagreed, saying that he didn’t think that the Parliament was the proper venue for what he called “emoting”, and should concentrate instead on practical solutions’

      Doesn’t the fact that the bushfires were caused by one 45 degree day, have something to do with climate change - ‘a load of crap’, so to speak?

    • Joan says:

      09:06am | 10/10/10

      Right on Eric…. pics on Insiders show Tony in Afganistan meeting troops a trip organised before Gillard invite. And still the commentators whinge… .. Abbott should go with Gillard.. Usual practice for PMis to deliver mail to troops…. Gillard didn’t she just wanted to bring Abbott and point score. Also why didn’t Rudd accompany Gillard in Brussels?- every other Foreign Affairs minister was there. We have a very slack press here in Australia ... perhaps they suffer from permanent jetlag travelling around as much as they do.

    • Joan says:

      04:01pm | 10/10/10

      Acotrel: Don’t know where you live but climate change happens every day here in Melbourne…. Spring today… then summer, then autumn then winter then back to spring- natures cycle…..and surprise surprise climate change has been going on for centuries…hey. chicken little the sky is falling! Go read Dorothea Mackellars poem…. `My Country` ....it will tell you all about Climate Change Australia style.

    • Dr Dog says:

      09:44am | 11/10/10

      Joan, you couldn’t be more right!

      Dorothy McKellar is surely the most authorative voice when forming climate policy, just as Rupert McCall should pick the Australian Cricket team.

      Perhaps we could make Banjo Paterson’s ‘The Loaded Dog’ the Australian standard for handling explosives.

      Lets not let Walt Whitman loose on gay marriage though, or Colridge on drug policy, lets stick with good solid Aussie poets.

    • RRules says:

      07:11am | 09/10/10

      Supposedly, flying west on long-haul reduces jet-lag - e.g. flying from Australia to the UK via Afghanistan (come back via USA).

    • TimB says:

      08:06am | 09/10/10

      Ah how ironic. Penbo writes an article telling us that this was a minor story that didn’t deserve such massive ongoing coverage…whilst continuing to add to that coverage.

      Congratulations Penbo, you’re part of the problem.

    • Chris L says:

      11:38am | 09/10/10

      I agree with you on this point Tim. Both sides are concentrating on attacking the person and it speaks volumes for the lack of a plan from both major parties and the pop star attitude the media and public have toward the party leaders. The political news we’ve been getting would be more appropriate for Hollywood celebrities. I don’t care about Tony’s budgie smugglers or Julia’s boganspeak. Where is the real news?

    • Christian Real says:

      01:03pm | 09/10/10

      Tim B
      You are wrong, Penbo is not part of the problem, Tony Abbott is

    • mickijo says:

      01:33pm | 09/10/10

      My thoughts exactly.Write about it again next week, and the week after ,change the wording a little bit,you might get six months out of it. By then Abbott will be sure to have put his foot in his mouth again when madam sets yet another trap for him. He falls for it every time. She baits, he bites.

    • TimB says:

      05:35pm | 10/10/10

      No Christian, I’m pretty sure people like you making up crap out of nothing are the problem.

      If people like you weren’t so ready to sink the boot in at every imagined outrage and beat-up, the media wouldn’t have an audience.

      Let go of your hate. If you can.

    • Reg says:

      08:57am | 11/10/10

      Actually if you’ve seen the film of your hero in Afghanistan folks, the word is gauche. An embarrassment of shaking hands with one guy while he looked at another. Where is his sense of engagement?

      A perfect example of a short term memory problem for which I blame the boxing. Bare knuckle would have been far more appropriate and safer. Too late now. NEXT!

    • Northern Steve says:

      10:53pm | 11/10/10

      Reg, not as embarrassing as watching our Prime Minister talking about the ‘Taliband’, on numerous occasions in the one interview?

      I mean, seriously, is our national leader that unread and unaware of the world that she doesn’t know such a fundamental word?

    • Evan Findlay says:

      08:08am | 09/10/10

      What we will see now that the election has been determined is that the Liberal party will become lethargic. It is obvious that the blinkers have been taken off Tony since his defeat and the Australian electorate will be subjected to the Abbott of old, mouth in gear, brain out of gear.

    • James P says:

      10:52am | 09/10/10

      I don’t know how anyone could seriously consider that Abbott had a defeat at the last election.

      He pulled the Coalition from the brink of oblivion in about 9 months to a point where it easily outpolled Labor on the 2PP vote.  He was almost primarily responsible for getting rid of the leader of the Labor Party.

      As far as I am concerned the last election was a stunning success for Abbott and a debacle for Gillard and the Labor Party.  Yes, the Coalition failed - just - to get over the line; but look at what Gillard now has to work with.

      It won’t last.  Labor is finished at least for the next 2 to 3 electoral cycles; they just haven’t worked that out yet.

      I give Gillard less than 6 months.

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      11:48am | 09/10/10

      Hmmm , seems that particular state of mind is contagious .  The fact that Abbott brought Labor within a whisker of defeat after one term in office and ended Rudd’s career as P.M. tells a differrent story.

    • Sven Gali says:

      12:38pm | 10/10/10

      @ James P

      Australian Labor Party         6,216,445
      Liberal/National Coalition     6,185,918

      I hope your soothsaying abilities are better than your maths.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      01:31pm | 10/10/10

      James P says:10:52am; you might want to re-check the 2PP vote on the AEC website I think you might find the ALP won that one

    • Super D says:

      08:11am | 09/10/10

      I’m sure Tony Abbott has been mulling over the million things he wish he had said instead - most likely ranging from

      “I have my own trip planned at a later date” to “I know it’s dangerous but surely the Prime Minister doesn’t need me to hold her hand”

    • Nick says:

      08:26am | 09/10/10

      David get a grip of yourself .You and the majority of Labor apologetic journos are like a broken record.The PM said she would” rather be teaching children in a classroom” than be meeting with Nation Leaders and you all you want to do is bag the opposition leader..It is people like you who will be held to account for supporting the worst government ever seen in this country when the dreamers finally wake up..

    • Matt says:

      10:24am | 09/10/10

      Agree with your sentiment Nick, but don’t hold your breath for the likes of Penbo waking up to this so called Government. Nobody’s holding our pathetic media to account for cheering on 15 years of incompetent and corrupt ALP rule in NSW. In fact, members of the media were actively involved in the number done on John Brogden which contributed to his breakdown.

    • Chris L says:

      11:45am | 09/10/10

      Nick, you’re buying into the very same sensationalist approach that you are decrying. If we don’t stop grabbing every sentence our politicians utter, and turning it into an attack on them, we cannot blame them for the spin and lies that are now stock in trade for this profession. Things like Tony’s personal opinion on women’s virginity or Julia’s original motivation for joining politics are unimportant compared to scrutiny on policy, yet they gain so much more media coverage. No wonder people have become so cynical.

    • Bobster says:

      11:51am | 09/10/10

      Ah yes - David Penberthy. That famous Labor stooge. Renowned for cheerleading for the NSW Government when he was there too. A man who always kow towed to the ALP.

      Hey Penbo, exactly what was the chain of events that saw you leave the Daily Telegraph? It was being too soft on Labor right?

      You lost the election, Nick. You lost because you had no policies, and you’re just pissed off that you still couldn’t overcome the most inept campaign an incumbent government has ever run.

      Time to stop searching for excuse and move on. Lick your wounds and learn better next time.

      P.S, I think you need to look up the term apologist - you’re use of it is kinda ironic.

    • persephone says:

      01:19pm | 09/10/10

      And Tony Abbott said he would rather spend 15 minutes talking to the British PM than a few hours with Australian troops.

      Julia wants to spend her time with Australians, Tony with Poms.

      I can’t blame her for wanting to spend her timie in the best country in the world.

    • Max Vaunted says:

      08:48am | 09/10/10

      Abbott was skewered by a government and compliant media intent on playing underhanded political one upsmanship without regard for either common decency or the security of the warzone Gillard and her team have achieved nothing as far as I am concerned, other than to confirm her boundless propensity for sly treachery and her unfitness for high office.

    • R says:

      10:50am | 09/10/10

      Rubbish, Abbott screwed up by saying the reason he wasn’t going was jet-lag. Just about any other reasonable explanation and it would have stayed a non-issue. My understanding is that Gillard did not initially capitalize on his decision not to go, she did however jump on the jet-lag excuse, as he would have if the roles were reversed.

    • Bobster` says:

      11:52am | 09/10/10

      That was the same day they hammered Gillard for saying she’d rather be at school right?

    • mickijo says:

      01:00pm | 10/10/10

      I have a sense that when Gillard or any of the government make a viscious attack on Abbott, they are covering some blunder they have made and are taking the interest away from themselves. We all know that Abbott puts his foot in his mouth at times but not to the extent that warrents the outcry this has made. Dig deeper and you may find something being swept out of sight. It is an old trick and the ALP play it well.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      03:50pm | 10/10/10

      It has nothing to do with ‘sly treachery’ at all. This story took off when some of the parents of soldiers serving in Afghanistan questioned Abbott’s priorities on talk-back radio. Once caller, having made the disclaimer that he wasn’t from a Labor voting family, attested to the lift in morale a visit by Kevin Rudd made to his son’s unit.
      If you want an example of sly treachery Abbott’s decision to renege on a signed deal he made with the Independents once it was clear he wasn’t going to form government.

    • Andrew says:

      08:54am | 09/10/10

      This re-hash of rubbish isn’t worthy of comment. Get a life Penberthy.

    • Chezza says:

      10:03am | 09/10/10

      You still manged to comment Andrew that says all.

    • Ask a stupid question says:

      05:13pm | 09/10/10

      Yes it was, Andrew. Apparently.

    • Jane says:

      09:02am | 09/10/10

      Hey Penbo, I think we’re all done with this story. Try “moving forward.”

    • Reggieman says:

      09:05am | 09/10/10

      Interesting. An entire article lambasting Tony Abbott and not one mention of the dirty politicising of Abbott’s “no show” by care-taker PM Julia Gillard, who having always been aware of TA’s planned visit at another time, chose instead to follow her normal modus operandi of shouting “look over there” to the compliant media in order to take any focus off her corrupt and morally bankrupt regime. As usual, it worked. Nice one Pembo.

    • Muzz says:

      09:13am | 09/10/10

      It’s all about Abbott again, anything happening in St Julia’s world? nup? didn’t thinks so. No news is good news eh.

    • Christian Real says:

      09:35am | 09/10/10

      Tony Abbott cited jet lag as his reason for not accepting Prime Minister Julia gillard’s invitation for a bipatisan leaders visit yo our troops in Afghanstan, and yet in the Sydney Morning Herald, a story on October 6, 2010 by Phillip coorey and Andrew Tillett “Abbott cops flak over Afghanistan”, Tony Abbott’s Office cited scheduling difficulties.
      Now, according to an article written by Piers Ackermann, Tony Abbott approached the ADF directly and made arrangements for visiting Afghanistan.
      If this is the case, no wonder the Prime Minister was unaware that Tony Abbott already had planned a visit to our troops, and it is also obvious that Mr Abbott does not like to follow the proper procedure, which is to approach and advise the Prime Minister’s office of any intended trips.
      Abbott is a serial breaker of rules and regulations of our Parliament, previously not disclosing a $710,000 mortgage on the member’s register in Parliament for almost two years when the Parliamentary rule clearly defines that : “Parliament requires all MPs to register any changes to interests,benefits or liabilities within 28 days”
      Two years is a long time to forget that you had a $710,000 mortgage and it would seem more of a deliberate plooy on Tony Abbott’s part to conveniently forget to lodge it on the members register as required of all MPs.
      Mr “Don’t believe everything I say” Abbott and his other quotation of it only being the ‘Gospel truth” if it is a prepared and written statement,simply cannot be believed anymore, anytime or anywhere, because Tony Abbott has also now reneged on a signed written agreement that he made with the Independents to provide a Deputy speaker and also pairing,even his word or Gospel truth as he calls it can no longer be believed or trusted.

    • G. David says:

      02:16pm | 09/10/10

      You mean the agreement Abbott signed after the Independents deceived him into believing they were negotiating in good faith?

      And of course we can always believe everything that Julia and the ALP Spin Doctors tell us, they would never knowingly mislead us!

    • Aitch B says:

      07:21am | 10/10/10

      @Christian

      Mate, this must be about the 50th time you’ve brought up Abbott’s mortgage. If it’s such a big thing then why isn’t the Government giving him hell over it? Seems to me you’re the only one interested. Everybody else - including your entire beloved ALP - has moved forward.

      S**t…... did I say that??

      Perhaps there are some skeletons in the ALP closet that they’d rather keep there…........

    • Reg says:

      12:13pm | 11/10/10

      50 times. Sh*t I must have missed the other 49. How interesting.  No worries, it simply proves what I was saying about his damaged short memory. Apparently it’s worse than I suspected, two years is definitely long term memory.

    • Northern Steve says:

      10:50pm | 11/10/10

      Christian, Abbott had informed Gillard personally of his decision to visit Afghanistan some time ago, well before her own trip took place.  She would have been aware that Abbott had plans to go when she publicly chastised him for not visiting.

      Is this an example of the new paradigm that Gillard has been talking about?

    • Bruce says:

      09:36am | 09/10/10

      Agree: If what was acknowledged on Sky news is correct , Tony Abbott should have told the truth that the PM did not sign off on his request to go to Afganistan some 3 weeks before Joolya decided she was going to go.

    • Luke says:

      09:59am | 09/10/10

      Bout time for a Julia slag off isn’t it?

    • Nicole says:

      11:06am | 09/10/10

      This topic has been bashed to death. He said a silly thing. Whoop-de-doo. Get over it.
      After a full week of Abbott bashing, I do hope we can look forward to a full week of Gillard bashing. And judging by her performance of late, I suspect she’ll come out rather bruised.

    • dobbo says:

      08:36pm | 10/10/10

      sorry Nicole…she had her share and more at the hands of News Ltd and the various leakers during the election campaign..

      No. It’s definitely Tony’s turn for a good long hard bashing at least as badly as Gillard’s so we can see what the hell he’s made of. After all he does keep putting his hand up to lead the country. Though at this point he’s shown himself to be an airhead ...bloody good thing he didn’t get the leadership guernsey.

      Mind you the odd “Boy’s Own” reader is probably going to be impressed he said he wanted to get embedded with the troops.

      Sort of : Nyah Nyah Julia. I’m braver than you are!!  Don’t know why the commanders in Afghanistan didn’t let him have his way. He could have kept out of mischief running around in the desert for years. Now they’ve gone and sent him back to us!!

    • tommy carmichael says:

      06:44pm | 11/10/10

      dear nicole           tony abbott could not go to afghanistan with julia because of a safety problem.  the army could not find a helmet to cover tony abbotts ears.      they had to get a helmet custom made which took a little time,hence his delayed visit.        have a nice day     tommy

    • Sven Gali says:

      11:30am | 09/10/10

      Exactly, Penbo. Completely self inflicted foot in mouth. Yet another example where if what Abbott said wasn’t true, it’s bad, but if it was, it’s worse.

      Not that all that rest seems to have helped much. As Laurie Oakes has observed, when Abbott met with David Cameron and the latter asked him, “How long have you been leader ?”, reportedly he stammered, “When there is no camera I might ...”

    • Michael says:

      11:35am | 09/10/10

      Tony Abbott didn’t merely make a glib comment about jet lag. He exposed his inner priorities. They start (and end) with “I”.

    • stephen says:

      11:48am | 09/10/10

      The policies of Tony and Julia toward Afghanistan are miles apart, so maybe they shouldn’t have gone together.
      Or maybe they there’s a deeper squabble over why 3 soldiers from Special Forces are being prosecuted, and Mr. Abbott has too much integrity.
      I mean, if you wanted a good reason to skedaddle from them- thar hills, (as the greens want), why not involve a moral clause indirectly from the ICC ?

    • Scot says:

      12:30pm | 09/10/10

      As usual Labor spin and lies. Abbott had already made plans to go to Afghanistan before Gillard, of course Gillard did not want him to get the glory and steal her thunder before her. And when is Bob Brown the Deputy PM of Australia going to Afghanistan? What lies and deceit from these people. Australians have become conditioned to all this deceit from Labor broken promises like the ETS.

    • Sven Gali says:

      05:16pm | 09/10/10

      Correction. The Deputy PM is Wayne Swan, Scot.

    • Scot says:

      06:55pm | 10/10/10

      Sven Gali. The last time I checked it was Bob Brown who is the Deputy PM, as most lucid Australians would concur. He is calling all the shots. And when is Bob brown going to visit the troops in Afghanistan Sven Gali. Maybe you could introduce him to some of your cousins there. I am sure they would love to meet him and exchange views.

    • Sven Gali says:

      10:59am | 11/10/10

      See above, Scot.

    • Christian Real says:

      01:31pm | 09/10/10

      David,
      Love you blogs, and at least you print comments from all political views, not like Akerman, in the Daily Telegraph that only appears to print comments from those readers that agree with his blogs

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      06:53pm | 11/10/10

      Hear! hear! there is no bigger bag of wind than that stupid idiot. He is a laté sucking lap dog to the liability party

    • Christian Real says:

      01:48pm | 09/10/10

      Tony Abbott is a poor excuse and a failure as a Leader, and the Liberal party should look at replacing him as soon as possible, because it just would not look good in the eyes of the World to have someone like Tony Abbott as Prime Minister when he tells lies(don’t belive everything I say) and then he say it is only the ‘Gospel Truth’ if it is prepared, written statements.
      Obviously Tony Abbott must have had second thoughts on the prepared,written statements being the ‘Gospel Truth’, because he then, about faced and reneged on a signed and written agreement that he had made with the Independents to provide a Deputy Speaker and also pairing for the minority Parliament.
      Tony Abbott’s word is unacceptable and means nothing anymore, and his credibility and integrity are zilch.
      Obviously Tony Abbott’s “Gospel Truth” can be altered and changed to suit himself and his own purposes whenever it suits him to change direction.

    • Bruce says:

      05:31pm | 09/10/10

      Ditio Gillard I would argue. No mining tax, peoples forum on climate change, etc, etc,. I guess the difference between Abbott and gillard is one acknowledges politicians lie, and that other just does lies.

    • You're Unreal Christian says:

      06:06pm | 09/10/10

      If Tony Abbott is as bad as you say and I was as Labor obsessed as you are - I would be loving it. It would be fantastic to have my preferred leader in power and “such an idiot” in opposition, because it would ultimately make the leader look better. Oh how worried you must be.

      Anyway, Julia is doing a good enough job making herself look bad - so lets all move on from this non-event. I certainly didn’t take offence to what he said - he was clearly caught off guard and wasn’t exactly able to say I’ve got my ticket booked for the 29th. Army folk who I have spoken to simply don’t give a sh*t - so why do you?

    • BookerT says:

      01:57pm | 09/10/10

      I was laughing myself silly reading the paper on the train. NSW electricity, water and groceries are costing way more than ever expected and it is going to get more expensive. So the PM is wasting time trying to trip up the opposition and not doing anything about helping Australian families. Get to work Gillard you and your government have wasted enough time!

    • Ask a stupid question says:

      05:19pm | 09/10/10

      What was so funny, BookerT ?

    • Richard says:

      02:03pm | 09/10/10

      The way I read this story, it all started with Julia Gillard getting her knickers in a knot because David Cameron, the new Prime Minister of Britain, the toast of Europe, invited Tony over to meet with him first before inviting Gillard, even though technically she’s the actual Prime Minister and he’s just leader of the opposition.

      Obviosly this situation reflects very well on Abbott’s credentials and poorly on the PM’s, so in order to steal his thunder she insinuated to the media that Abbott was somehow deserting his duty to see the troops by going to England and playing bff’s with the British PM instead. She then further reinforced the notion that this is all just a massive case of sour grapes by publicly declaring “I’m not even interested on foreign affairs anyway so whoopty-doo-da”.

      So then Gillard’s media lapdogs went and harassed Tony Abbott as soon as he stepped off the plane from a 20hr flight and took his off-hand comment about jet-lag out of context, blowing it up out of all proportion into an hysterical media smear campaign. Well that’s fine, politics IS a cut-throat business, but its obvious to all intelligent critical-thinkers that Tony Abbott is by far the better choice for the important position of PM, which requires gravitas, the ability to command the respect of foreign leaders, and above all maturity, qualities the current PM is manifestly lacking from the looks of things.

    • Chris L says:

      12:52am | 10/10/10

      You didn’t get to the part where Tony worked out cures for both cancer and world poverty… oh and the time he slew a monstrous dragon that was eating innocent virgins.

      Seriously I tend toward the left of the spectrum but can still see the many faults in Gillard as clearly as I see Abbott’s faults. I think people should be capable of criticising even their own team if it is warranted, and it certainly is warranted on both sides at the moment!

    • Mike says:

      02:06pm | 09/10/10

      “Abbott’s clumsy military strategy” oh please, give it a rest…...................

    • Doug Greaves says:

      02:17pm | 09/10/10

      Could it be this reflects an ambivalent attitude on Tony,s commitment to the bipartisan war. Julia went at least, and Tony went elsewhere, I suppose only the troops know what impact this may have in the long run. I think it does show a fragile judgement and it is worth highlighting.

    • Charles Radford Bourke says:

      05:38pm | 09/10/10

      Tony Abbott had always planned a visit to the troops.  The focus should be on Gillard’s camp knowing this and scoring cheap political points.

      Had Tony refused and said that he was coming on X day thank you very much then operational security would be an issue.  High profile visits require limited media coverage so that people like the Taliban or even the Taliband wont have an opportunity to do anything.
      Where is the scrutiny of the Gillard camp scoring a cheap political point???

    • Youdy beaudy says:

      07:03am | 11/10/10

      Charles, wouldn’t it be better if none of them had to go and visit the troops. Why do the troops need visiting?. Are they lonely?.

      Now, if the Government brought all of the troops home and let Afghanistan work it out for itself then they wouldn’t have to visit them at all. Too easy, isn’t it. That’s what I think. Why the hell did we ever go there in the beginning?. 

      I say, and many others would also say. Let’s get out of there, it’s a waste of time and money. There are so many tribes there who have their own internal conflicts with each other. We cannot win a battle when we don’t know who the enemy is. They are tough people, they will work it out. It is them that have to get rid of the Taliban not us. They know who they are, we don’t. Let them fix it themselves and good luck to them.

    • Charles Radford Bourke says:

      05:41pm | 09/10/10

      By the way Tony’s visit was planned well before the Gilard camp tried to score points from it.  I think I might go and shake Tony’s hand

    • Marky says:

      06:30pm | 09/10/10

      Yawn. This again. Does anyone believe that it’s a good idea for both the PM and the Opposition Leader to be in a hot spot like Afghanistan at the same time? I certainly don’t think so.

      I’m sure Abbott won’t be able to defend himself either - saying: “well guys i’m actually coming on the way back”, because that’s a security lapse as well.

      Abbott might not have used the best of words, but if he’s been told to keep his secret trip hush hush - then broke that, then people would be all over him as well. Lose, lose.

    • Gregg says:

      12:54am | 10/10/10

      The joke that is greater than what we are calling a government is the Labor stooges who think a choice of words by Abbott is something so catastrophic when we have a government being lead along a Green path by the nose the whole country will soon enough be on the nose.
      Why some of the media do not report truthfully is I suppose also somewhere there in the line of jokes.
      And then the stooges will come out with thie lines about don’t whinge etc. you lost the election!
      All most responsible voters would like to see is some responsible governance occurring for the country and that is hardly being seen.

    • Rosie says:

      08:04am | 10/10/10

      I agree poor choice of words from the Opposition leader for something so sensitive, he realizes it and has apologised.

      Tony Abbott was put into an undermining situation by Gillard and what he said was aimed at Gillard and not our troops in Afghanistan. It was obvious that Gillard wanted Tony Abbott to be there with her at the same time for political gain to make her look good.

      Politicians who decide to visit the troops would need to be in the right frame of mind and most of all want to be there representing the Australian people as our brave soldiers are there for our benefit. Tony Abbott will visit when the time is right and will look more comfortable and natural than the unscrupulous Julia Gillard.

    • Super D says:

      08:38am | 10/10/10

      Wll what do you know, Abbott’s just been to Afghanistan and the PM would have well and truly known he was about to visit.

      The question is, how can the Independents have confidence in a government that will so cynically grab for a couple of days of positive media coverage?

      Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by the PM.  It’s Kevin 07 media strategy all over again.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      03:57pm | 10/10/10

      Super D says:08:38am; And what did the PM actually say for you to dribble out that rant. rAbbott brought it all on himself, or do you like repeating sloppy joe excuses, because you can’t think of one yourself?. Yes rAbbott did visit the troops today even wanting to be embedded with the troops on a mission… egotistical prat that he is. It was rightly so he got slapped down by the military on that one. But perhaps they should have strapped him to the front of their vehicles and said “there you go rAbbott have a good look” now that would have made good watchable media… perhaps in his budgie smugglers and leaving his hands free to beat his chest.

    • Christian Real says:

      06:55pm | 11/10/10

      Perhaps Tony Abbott may come in handy as a secret weapon in Afghanistan, as the Taliban would die laughing at Abbott running around the desert in his budgie smugglers.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      01:27pm | 10/10/10

      rAbbott just doesn’t have the ticker to stand next to or perform along beside PM Julia Gillard. It reinforces the fact she got the job and not him, it’s an ego thing that must really eat him up. I can think of no bigger wanker in Australian political history than rAbbott. It is purely this reason that he has turned into an angry little man dressed up as “to hold the government to rigorous account” now he want to trot around the world like he is or act as PM, quite embarrassing really.

    • fairsfair says:

      10:53pm | 10/10/10

      Can’t think of a bigger one hey - well, taking into account the way in which you comment (continuing this rAbbott crap) I think you are confronted with the person of which you speak every time you front up for a shave in the morning Rob. Quite embarassing really.

    • Christian Real says:

      09:12am | 11/10/10

      fairsfair
      It seems more embarrassing that there are people like you that actually believe Tony Abbott’s feeble excuses (Jet Lag),when he was more interested in his 15 minute meeting with the British Tory Prime Minister then he was visiting our Troops in the first place.
      It was only that Tony Abbott got caught out, that he did actually put in an appearance in Afghanistan,visiting our Troops on the way back home.
      Tony Abbott had not arranged a date to visit our Troops like he falsely claimed, and both Abbott and his Office were caught out on another great lie.
      His Office cited “scheduling difficulties” as Abbott’s failure to do a bipartisan visit with the Prime Minister, and yet Abbott claimed “Jet Lag” was the reason, it is a pity that Abbott and his Office can’t get their stories to gel with each others version.
      Abbott’s should apologise to the Prime Minister also for falsely accusing her of bastardry, but then perhaps, as well as a person who reneges on a signed written agreement like he made with the Independents,he is not a man after all.
      Look up the “The Age”  online this morning, and you will find a story “PM accused of stooping to bastardry” ,written by Peter Hartcher and Tarin Kowt, October 11, 2010.
      Here is an extract from that story:
      “However,the reporter who broke the story of Ms Gillard’s offer to Mr Abbott said that the disclosure did not come from the Prime Minister or her office.”
      “I did not learn about it from the Government, ” Phillip Coorey said yesterday,implying that Mr Abbott was making a serious charge against Ms Gillard based on a misunderstanding.”

    • Wok says:

      02:59pm | 10/10/10

      Rob r Charteris, acotrel and Christian Real actually make me laugh out loud on occasion.

    • Christian Real says:

      08:28am | 11/10/10

      Wok
      It is sad to see imbeciles like you and the other Liberal radicals exonerate and condone a lying, deceiving weasel like Tony Abbott.
      If the Liberal party was fair dinkum about being an alternate choice of Government, then they would do better to rid themselves of this deadwood,that they have in the top positions.
      If you think that Tony Abbott’s feeble. lame,misguided excuse of being ‘Jet Lagged”,is acceptable then like Tony Abbott, you have very little or no credibility or integrity.
      His visit to our Troops on the way back from his all important 15 minute meeting with the English Tory Prime Minister was also unacceptable and Too Little - Too Late.
      Perhaps all you Liberal sympathisers could raise some money to provide Tony Abbott with some soft pillows and blankets, so that he is all nice and cosy on his flights overseas,and something also to help him from suffering jet lag would be a nice gift to Abbott from all his gullible supporters.

    • TimB says:

      11:44am | 11/10/10

      They don’t make me laugh Wok. They make me despair. Their inability to make logical and reasoned arguments would be amusing, if not for the fact that they’re also allowed to vote.

    • thatmosis says:

      03:09pm | 10/10/10

      Sorry Rob r but your reasoning is as usual wrong. Abbot got to meet the new Briish PM first and Jooloia got her knickers in a twist. She is also not the elected PM but a caretaker PM put there by so called independants going against the wishes of their own voters. Who in their right mind would want to be seen with her anyway, other PM’s have to for photo opportunities but Im pretty sure the comments afterwoods would be a laugh at her expense, things like “she wanted bucket seats in her PM car but they didnt have big enough buckets” or we’ve just dicovered a new breed of Australian bird the red headed spinner bird,  etc. etc. She and her so called “government are a joke but nobodies laughing.

    • Sven Gali says:

      11:09am | 11/10/10

      Don’t you mean, “Abbot (sic) got to meet the new, not elected but caretaker Briish (sic) Pm”, thatmosis ? You do realise they both formed minority Governments, don’t you ?

    • It's a beat up says:

      03:10pm | 10/10/10

      Why didn’t Bob Brown go to Afghanistan with Julia Gillard, Rob charteris?  After all, he is the co-PM of this country along with Julia Gillard due to the fact that, thanks to Tony Abbott,  Labor didn’t get enough votes to govern in its own right.  I think it’s quite outrageous that he didn’t go.  Was Julia intent on hogging the limelight? Or wasn’t he asked? Perhaps he was, and he said “No thanks”.  Hmmm…

    • Sven Gali says:

      11:13am | 11/10/10

      Thanks also to Tony Abbott, It’s a beat up, the Coalition didn’t get enough votes to govern in its own right. What’s a co-PM ?

    • MH says:

      04:55pm | 10/10/10

      Seriously.  PM visiting Afghanistan - manufactured photo op, utter non-story.  Would be PM declining to play second fiddle at manufactured photo op - utter non-story.  Reason given by would be PM - silly, yes, but utter non-story.  PM playing politics and fanning flames of a media beat-up over it - perhaps a skerrick of a story on a really slow news day. 

      The real story is this.  What the fark are the PM and would be PM doing wasting time and taxpayer money playing commander in chief photo-ops and counter commander in chief photo-ops in Afghanistan in the first place?

    • Christian Real says:

      05:04am | 11/10/10

      No wonder Tony Abbott did not want Treasury (which found an $11 billion black hole in their policy costings) to handle the costings of their election policies,Joe Hockey’s claim that a big accountancy firm had done their policy costings has now been exposed as a big lie.
      A story in Todays Sydney Morning Herald, “Hockey was economical with the truth: Lib poll costings never audited.”, and written by Peter Martin, October 11,2010.

    • Luke says:

      08:38am | 11/10/10

      “There will be no carbon tax under a Government I lead”.
      “I wasn’t aware of when Tony Abbott was going to visit Afghanistan”
      Abbott today has said Gillard new weeks ago about his visit.
      ‘I support Kevin Rudd 100%”
      “There will be a citizens assemby of 150 people”

    • Christian Real says:

      02:04pm | 11/10/10

      Luke
      Tony Abbott has already put his foot in his mouth by citing Jet Lag as his reason for refusing the Prime Minister’s offer of a bipartisan visit with the troops.
      Abbott’s office actually gave more ammunition to shot him down with, when his Office cited ‘scheduling Difficulties” as the excuse, it is a pity that Abbott and his office don’t communicate with each other, they may have been able to get their stories the same.
      Abbott has said that Gillard knew about his intended visit, but once again he lied, because instead of going through the proper Parliamentary procedure of informing the Prime Minister and her offfice of his travel intentions, he arranged it directly with the Australian Defence Force (ADF)
      Tony’s Abbott’s sudden visit to our troops on the way back from his extremely important 15 minute meeting with the English Tory Prime minister was as Phoney as Tony Abbott himself.

    • TimB says:

      04:57pm | 11/10/10

      Christian you are wrong. Gillard was the one who lied. She knew about the trip. By your own standards, she is not fit to be PM.

      If you took your blinkers off for half a second you’d know that.

      http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/action-man-abbott-on-the-front-line/story-e6frea8c-1225936843688

      “Mr Abbott said he’d had a personal conversation with Ms Gillard on September 22, in which he told her that he was planning to visit the country on his return from a Tory Party conference in England.

      Ms Gillard said Mr Abbott had not given her a fixed date of when he planned to visit the troops.

      But Mr Abbott said while he may not have given an exact date, Ms Gillard was under no illusion that he had been in discussions with Defence about his visit and that she knew he would drop in on his way home from England.”

    • Christian Real says:

      08:40pm | 11/10/10

      Tim B
      What Tony Abbott says does not mean that he is actually telling the Truth Tim B.
      During the Election it was Tony Abbott who said: “Don’t believe everything I say”, and it was Tony Abbott who suddenly decided that it was not “the Gospel Truth”, unless it was in carefully,prepared, written Statements.
      Then Tony Abbott Reneged on a signed,written agreement with the Independents, to provide a Deputy Speaker and pairing in the Minority Parliament, so much for “The Gospel Truth”, Tony Abbott changes that to suit his own purpose and agenda also.
      Tony Abbott said that he had a personal conversation with Julia Gillard on September 22,and you Believed him, fool you.

    • TimB says:

      09:18pm | 11/10/10

      *sigh*

      Yes Christian. Everything Tony says is a lie. Everything. Except the parts you want to believe of course. And Gillard never lies. Ever.

      You really are a simple person.

    • Anthony says:

      06:21am | 11/10/10

      By sooner rather than later did you mean today? Here is some spin, Abbott must read “The Punch”

    • Christian Real says:

      08:40am | 11/10/10

      Some of the media are labelling Tony Abbott as “Action Man”
      Perhaps a new Action Man figure can be made in honour of Tony Abbott.
      “The Incredible Sulk”, sounds like a good name, they could even have an Abbott action figure continually spitting out the “Dummy”
      Another Action figure could tell lies all the time, and other Action figure could repeat over and over again “Don’t believe everything I say.”
      It is obvious that there would be a huge market for Tony Abbott Action Figures, and there is an endless list of the things that these action figures could say or do.
      They would most certainly be snapped up by all the Loyal and gullible Liberal supporters and the market and the profit would be huge to the manufacturers

    • Nicole says:

      08:59am | 11/10/10

      Say what you like, but he sure upstaged Gillard. Just imaging if he had of gone with her. She wouldn’t have even got a look in.

    • Nicole says:

      09:14am | 11/10/10

      Imagine…....I’m having an illiterate day !

    • Sven Gali says:

      11:16am | 11/10/10

      Correction, Nicole. His visit was upstaged by his mouth.

    • Dr Dog says:

      10:00am | 11/10/10

      Most posters seem to miss the point. Abbott was telling the truth when he said that he didn’t want to be jet lagged.

      He had to arrive fresh because he wanted to look pretty for David Cameron, who he thinks will be his ally and ‘good friend’ in a surge of new conservatism across the world. Rudd did it too when he got a chubby over Obama’s embrace.

      What Abbott fails to realise is that Cameron will quite rightly view him as part of the problem with old conservative governments rather than a player in ‘new’ conservative politics. Unless Cameron is a complete dimwit he must see Tony Abbott for the sneering wrecker and loose lipped ‘chancer’ he really is.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      12:16pm | 11/10/10

      David Penberthy! Why not a word of criticism of the blatant political opportunism & dishonesty of the Prime Minister, Julia Gillard? She knew, for she was fully informed by Tony Abbott & almost without doubt by the Minister for Denfence or the upper echelons of the ADF that Abbott had already arranged to go to Afghanistan after his trip to the UK. As this had already been arranged & the itinerary in Afghanistan confirmed why would anyone expect the arrangements to be changed? Julia Gillard was indulging in the same type of underhandedness she used when she decided to usurp the Prime Ministership & politically assassinated what’s-his-name in June. Gillard was deliberately playing politics on what had hitherto been a bi-partisan issue.
      Never mind that the troops don’t want any of these bloody politicians getting under their feet whilst they indulge in their ego-boosting photo opportunities whilst they cosy-up to the military brass.
      Both Gillard (“I invited my pal Tone but he wouldn’t come to my partry”) & Abbott (“I, poor, weak, wee diddums I am, might get jet-lag”) behaved like spoilt brats & the sooner we are rid of both of them the better!

    • iansand says:

      01:20pm | 11/10/10

      I despair at you Liberals.  Haven’t you worked out that the problem is Abbott’s reaction.  It was really stupid, particularly when he has made his own honesty an issue in previous blurts.

      If he had simply said “Watch this space” or “Security concerns mean I cannot discuss any plans I may have” this would not even been a blip on the radar.  Gillard did not create this problem.  It was an Abblurt creation from the beginning.

      All this “devious Gillard” crap is not impressing anyone, and it is reminding people of the Blurt’s gaffe every day.

    • TimB says:

      02:02pm | 11/10/10

      I despair at *you* Iansand. 

      Gillard DID create this problem, by telling the media that she’d invited Tony to Afghanistan and he declined. That was a deliberate smear that she gifted to the media, designed to insinuate that Tony’s was turning down Afghanistan in favour of his trip to Britain.
      Yes, Tony compounded the issue with his response, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that Gillard deliberatly set out to smear him no matter what he had said.
      She knew (despite her constant lying denials) he had his own trip planned, and she knew the timing of it.
      Even if Tony had followed your suggestion we still would have got the conspiracy rubbish that we’re getting now: That Tony only went as part of a “me too” knee-jerk response. Nothing could be further from the truth.

      The truth is this was nothing more than a disgusting political trick on Gillard’s part, and she used our soldiers to do it.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      03:50pm | 11/10/10

      TimB says:02:02pm; “Gillard DID create this problem, by telling the media that she’d invited Tony to Afghanistan and he declined”

      That isn’t where it came from, it came from Phillip Coorey SMH and even he has come out and siad it didn’t come from Julia Gillard or her office.
      Your inability to make logical and reasoned arguments are amusing. The
      pathetic thing is you also get to vote. Nice one tiny Tim you really are the political guru io io io

    • Sven Gali says:

      03:52pm | 11/10/10

      You’re calling Phillip Coorey a liar, TimB ?

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      03:57pm | 11/10/10

      iansand says:01:20pm; I have been keen on “rAbbott” for a while but “Blurt” sounds much more appropriate….hmmm maybe even “rAbblurt” or “tiny tim’s” boy friend coz he loves him sooooo much. And quietly I reckon rAbblurt wouldn’t knock him back, deep down inside they’d both be into it.

    • TimB says:

      06:23pm | 11/10/10

      Gillard’s office wasn’t the source? Please. Where else could it have come from? Two parties were privy to that invitation, Gillard & Abbott. It was hardly in Abbott’s interest to leak it, so it must have come from Gillard.

      Phillip Coorey might be telling the truth in saying it didn’t come from Gillard’s office directly, but indirectly is a whole other story.

      And none of it excuses Gillard adding fuel to the fire when she knew full well he already had a trip planned.

    • Christian Real says:

      07:21pm | 11/10/10

      Tim B
      Julia Gillard has better things to attend to, then waste her time smearing Tony Abbott.
      Abbott does a good job of smearing himself with all the lies and spin that he continuely conjures up that his naive and gullible supporters believe, the only thing wrong though it still isn’t the ‘Gospel Truth”
      Abbott has mastered the art of deception,deceit and lies so well that even he possibly can’t recognise anymore whether he is actually telling the truth or not.
      The false accussation made against our Prime Minister, from Tony Abbott is Un-Australian and Un-Acceptable and he is not fit to be even Leader of the Liberal party.
      A Story in “The Age”, and “The Sydney Morning Herald”  written by Phillip Coorey, shoots down Tony Abbott’s false and baseless accussation Against Julia Gillard of “Bastardry”.
      If Abbott was a man, he would apologise to the Prime Minister for what he has said about her, but I don’t think that he will, because he is a weasel, just trying to excuse his foot in mouth comment of being ‘Jet Lagged”

    • NewSedition says:

      08:08pm | 11/10/10

      Articles such as these underscore the lack of real political leadership of both party leaders as well as a lack of real issues benefiting from analysis by political journalists. The PM and Mr Abbott had the opportunity to play the greater part in the manufactured non-issue; regrettably both chose to be drawn into making unprofessional comments about each other. The entire event can be summarised as point-scoring by both sides. In the final analysis, does any of this contribute, in a positive manner, to the running of the country or even policy concerning Afghanistan? I suggest the answer is a resounding no.

    • Bob Higgs says:

      09:59am | 12/10/10

      A sterling defence of the our English toff leader in waiting, how he rides a bike such distances with a monocle I’ll never deduce.

 

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