After modest carousing following his second elevation to Prime Minister - no more than half an hour - Kevin Rudd fronts a press conference to outline a re-Kevinated Labor government.

I solemnly swear to listen for at least 25 seconds longer than I used to before poo pooing your policy ideas ... Photo:The Australian

“The fight against the ravaging of the natural environment by the poison of carbon emissions remains a fixed and vital element of Labor’s plans for a better Australia,’’ he says. “However, a penalty price of $23 a tonne of carbon is excessive in current national and international circumstances. A Rudd government will reduce that, for a limited period, to $10 a tonne.”

That single policy switch, produced after six months of consultation with Australian business executives, suddenly re-aligns Labor’s electoral prospects. Suddenly, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has to confront a carbon reduction program which is cheaper than his and well within the parameters of global responses. The carbon tax is no longer an all-purpose weapon against Labor.

And the price cut would ease the pressure on household budgets.

Of course, Greens Leader Bob Brown is furious, but the new Prime Minister, in his own words to confidantes in private, “couldn’t give a rat’s arse”. The objective is to prepare an election campaign which will eliminate the Greens as necessary allies.

There is not much policy involved in the Rudd-Gillard battle of nerves. Kevin Rudd’s backers have told reporters that as a renewed Prime Minister he would not change policy much if at all. He would sell it better.

However, it is difficult to believe Mr Rudd would take the Prime Ministership and the only change he would make would be to his office’s stationary letterhead.

He has been thinking about policy outside foreign affairs and asking questions of experts. At times in his public speaking one gets the impression he considers himself still, or again, the leader.

“It seems the world is finally discovering the fact that industry policy is not such a bad thing,” he told the Australian Industry Group earlier this month.

“I said when I became Leader of the Opposition I never wanted to be Prime Minister of a country that didn’t make anything anymore. That remains my view.”

If Mr Rudd were returned to the Prime Minister’s office, and were to make policy alterations or replacements, the carbon price reduction would be a neat fit and a continuation.

His Emissions Trading Scheme, proposed and then shelved when he was Prime Minister, had a $10 price. And it would tempt Liberal frontbencher Malcolm Turnbull, who as Opposition Leader had a similar scheme.

Perhaps more significant for Mr Rudd’s perilous electoral future, the move would bolster his standing within the business community, whose residents have seen a fair bit of the Foreign Minister over the past six months.

Mr Rudd doesn’t have the Caucus votes to challenge, and might never do so. But the possible policy realignment are interesting to consider.

If he is returned to The Lodge it will be without the help of some of Australia’s biggest trade union blocs, such as the giant Australian Workers’ Union. Mr Rudd has never been beholden to unions. He doesn’t like what he sees as their rigidity. He might see a second opportunity to undercut a central policy stream Tony Abbott has been trying to develop to appeal to big business.

Two days after his re-instatement, at another press conference, Mr Rudd announces he is proposing greater, industry-specific flexibility in individual contracts.

In effect it is the a return to Australian Workplace Agreements but with greater protection for workers. And these contracts would only be available to the mining industry.

Big miners have had the following proposition put to them: “You spent almost $30 million fighting my mining profits’ tax; this measure will be worth millions more to you. So I just want to pump up the tax a tinch more than Julia’s rate.”

It would be a triumph of extra revenue to be promised to the electorate.

The Fair Work Australia Act of Julia Gillard would be eroded under a slow but sure Rudd process. Cop that AWU. Meanwhile, the unions behind the new Industry and Manufacturing and the Arts Minister Kim Carr from the Victorian left would be given some redemptive concessions.

Workplace Relations Minister Stephen Smith, a West Australian, will have to make the detailed announcement.

The new Foreign Affairs Minister, Martin Ferguson, will also announce changes in his area when he returns from three weeks of global consultations.

The Prime Minister’s announcement of a new ministry would come with fulsome thanks to Julia Gillard and respect for her decision to sit on the back bench as chair of a special committee on education.

Wayne Swan’s shift to Veterans Affairs—but with a restricted policy range—would be part of the announcement. Cop that again, AWU.

But the principal appointment would be former Immigration Minister Chris Bowen to the Treasurer’s post. Mr Bowen’s first duty is to reveal that the 2012-13 Budget will have a modest $1 billion deficit. Why force a surplus in these risky times?

Perhaps the most difficult task of a member of the new ministry will be that of Nicola Roxon, who as the new Immigration Minister will have to outline the new prime Minister’s plan to send asylum seekers to Nauru where they will be all but guaranteed a permanent visa for Australia within a short period.

Mr Rudd had earlier said he would continue to back the Malaysian deal, but that was going nowhere.

Much like Simon Crean, who has joined Ms Gillard on the back bench.

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    • bilby roo says:

      06:02am | 23/02/12

      This is evidence that KRudd is a lot smarter than Gillard.

    • Nathan says:

      06:07am | 23/02/12

      Not really, he still needs the support of the party and he does not and won’t get it because he is into all this public grand standing just like his 20 20 rubbish

    • Labor is Toxic says:

      06:39am | 23/02/12

      No ..... just evidence that KRudd can con people into surrendering their vote better than Gillard.

      No matter who you vote for .... the puppeteers pull the strings

    • acotrel says:

      07:40am | 23/02/12

      If he works on his management style, he could become a good leader. But he already knows that ! Can a leopard change its spots ?

    • Gregg says:

      07:44am | 23/02/12

      No you bloody dills, it is just Mal musing over some of his thoughts that he finds amusing to himself and knew would suck in readers to repond like you have.

    • nihonin says:

      08:35am | 23/02/12

      acotrel, how you’ve changed your tune in the
      last 12 hours, sycophant,  Can’t decide who
      you need to believe can you lol

    • Rosie says:

      08:59am | 23/02/12

      It’s a nightmare where the people watch and wait anxiously for the scraps after they have eaten each other alive! Unimaginable! I can’t believe what I am seeing!

    • Borderer says:

      09:01am | 23/02/12

      Rudd is incompetant, his record speaks for itself.
      Gillard is incompetant and a liar, her record speaks for itself.

    • ZSRenn says:

      09:32am | 23/02/12

      It’s proof of nothing. It’s called an opinion piece!

    • Brad Coward says:

      11:36am | 23/02/12

      Rudd Mark2 is merely being open about how sneaky he really is !

    • Super D says:

      06:11am | 23/02/12

      LMAO.  He’s not going to reduce the price.  He’s going to scrap the scheme altogether.  The entire architecture will be removed.  Either by Rudd, now, before an election or Abbott afterwards.  A 50% price discount won’t cut it.

    • SteveKAG says:

      06:41am | 23/02/12

      as long as its gone from our landscape all together, a total waste of time.

    • Phil says:

      07:09am | 23/02/12

      I dont agree Super D. I am not against doing something to help the environment, but everyone should pay no exemptions. At $5 a ton increasing by $1 a year for 10 years we would have a start up system which would not kill off industry.

    • dovif says:

      07:18am | 23/02/12

      Is it just coincidence, that we have had tens of thousands of job losses, since the announcement of the Carbon tax?

      When the Government takes $10-20billions from business, they have to plan to raise their prices and cut cost, hundreds of thousands of jobs are going to be lost because of this stupid tax.

      If you lose your job this year, it is Gillard selling you out to the Greens

      Look at the US last few months, they had massive jobs growth. Why is the Australian economy losing jobs, when we should have a far superior economy?

    • Damocles says:

      07:42am | 23/02/12

      Phil says, “doing something to help the environment”. What the hell are you talking about? Carbon dioxide is a naturally occuring gas. What, you’re now going to support taxing something that is neccessary in nature? The Carbon Dioxide Tax On Everything is the biggest con the world has ever seen. Climate change is the natural cycle of the planet. Read your science and don’t rely on the Man Made Climate Change agitators…......they lie for money.

    • acotrel says:

      08:03am | 23/02/12

      @dovif
      ‘Is it just coincidence, that we have had tens of thousands of job losses, since the announcement of the Carbon tax?’

      Somebody must have fiddled the figures, the unemployment rate actually fell last quarter ?

    • Anubis says:

      08:27am | 23/02/12

      @ Phil - doing something for the environment is beefing up the powers of the EPA to tackle genuine pollution NOT Co2. There is much more toxic material being spewed in to the environment that needs to be addressed.

    • dovif says:

      10:55am | 23/02/12

      Ace Troll

      You do know how the real world work, Job losses announcement don’t happen overnight, they have their notice period and then they might not report themselve as out of work, up to 6 months after the event. As for the January figure, THEY ARE ESTIMATES and will be revised in February

      You seem to live in an alternative universe, where all the talk about Rudd vs Gillard 2 is a figment of News Limited’s, Abbott’s or Liberal supporter’s imagination

      Which part of government taking - $10 to $20 billion from business, and business having to cut staff or be out of business do you not get?

    • Mac says:

      05:13pm | 23/02/12

      @ dovif

      What part don’t we get? Well, anything past you making claims without proof I don’t really get. Oh, and taking someone else’s proof and claiming that they will be revised soon to make your point.

    • DOB says:

      05:48pm | 23/02/12

      dovif, to get straight to the point, yes, those job losses are just a coincidence. Perhaps you havent noticed but all the mining investment has pushed up the Australian dollar and made Australian industry far less competitive than the carbon tax could ever make it. Second, you may not have noticed be we are actually running out of oil and gas so those prices are going up too. You probably react to that last statement by saying “bullshit, thats greenie alarmism”. Because youre obvioulsy not too bright thought, let me ask you something - do you know what Fracking is? Had you heard of it, say, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, a year ago? No, only heard of it last year? Whys that? Why is this inefficient, environmentally harmful, and - most importantly - expensive, method getting gas suddenly affordable? Wel, its because gas prices have skyrocketed. UP 1,000 % in the last 6 years (no thats not a typo). Why? Because theres a shortage of the stuff - and its non-renewal. so, think about that because the carbon tax increases the price by roughly 0.01%. See why the argument about the carbon tax is bullshit fed to people too dumb and uninformed to know what theyre talking about (which is YOU right now, DOVIF). Feeling pain at the petrol pump at the moment? Well, thank the high dollar for not feeling a lot more - basically at the moment people are losing their jobs so you can get less expensive oil. Right now its just other people. One day, if fuel sources stay as they are, it will be you. Now, I know youre not too bright, but maybe you should think about that a little bit and reflect on the real reasons people are losing their jobs. It aint the carbon tax.

    • Ron e says:

      06:20am | 23/02/12

      Great moral challenge of our time… Spare me.
      Loving the spectacle of the Labor Party being exposed for the miserable bunch of self-serving, deceitful, spiteful wankers that I’ve always suspected them to be.

    • livo says:

      06:41am | 23/02/12

      Couldn’t agree more.  The front benchers are tripping over themselves to finally vent their long held dislike for Rudd and his methods.  In doing this, however, they are all one by one exposing themselves as the deceiptful liars (politicians) that they truly are by having kept the lid on for 18 months.

      No matter how I look at it there appears to be no hope of this disfunctional rabble coming out of this with any credibility and any good work they may have achieved will be reduced to ashes.

      If Kevin were to mount a bid for the leadership and miraculously win, who would he put into his cabinet.  Do you think Wayne Swan could step up after his comments last night?  What about Burke, Conroy or Roxon?  Would he give Julia the holiday abroad portfolio?

      Only one solution exists really.  There will be a coalition Government sooner or later and the ALP is a dead duck political party.

    • SteveKAG says:

      07:04am | 23/02/12

      We get ourselves into this trouble all of the time.  Labor has great ideals but their execution is so far removed from the ideals it’s nto funny.

      Remember how this party was formed, remember who makes up their membership but we constantly get fooled by charisma of their leaders…...teh party is the party for Labor.

    • Gregg says:

      07:54am | 23/02/12

      @SteveKAG
      ” Remember how this party was formed, remember who makes up their membership “
      And the big trouble Steve is that there may have been some relevance to the Labour side of things back in the stone age and those so called charismatic leaders and Union heavies are just fooling themselves and their members in not waking up to the fact that like it or lump it, Australia is part of a competitive global scene or lets say needs to be competitive or just sink further into the mire.
      Things like carbon and super profits taxes to put Australian resources out of competition against lower taxes and wages sources might be good for Labor to rake in some revenue in the short term to pay for their wasteful ways but longer term you’ll find the cesspool they’re creating for us is extra deep.

    • Ben says:

      02:54pm | 23/02/12

      This is the best thing to happen for ages. It guarantees electoral oblivion for this petty, self-obsessed, inward looking peddler of squalid us-and-them politics and class warfare that is the Labor Party. The ALP and their thuggish union base with their profligacy, their big-taxing ways and their indolent culture of entitlement, rorts, and jobs for the boys are completely irrelevant in the modern Australia. Good riddance for the next 10 years you grubs.

    • Bruce says:

      01:38am | 24/02/12

      @Ron

      Got a “great piece by Alan Kohler” about that for us?

      Bwahahahahahaa

    • old fart says:

      06:39am | 23/02/12

      It’s a sad state of affairs,  The only comment of worth I have heard in this came from Bob Brown who said he was sad that the foreign minister had not announced his resignation on Australian soil..

      I hope we are not paying his hotel bill nor his flight homer on anything else other than business class on a commercial carrier

    • farkurnell says:

      12:21pm | 23/02/12

      I thought similar things .I see a lot of self interest from the Ruddstar and very little of Aust.(our) interest.Ambition can really cloud ones judgement.
      I have suspected from 2010 that The Ruddstar is not a team player.The captain of a team willing to blame all his teammates performances,except his own.
      It became very evident when Rudd’s popularity as PM plummeted in the polls, the public began to see past the media image created,  started to look at the substance the Ruddstar was made of,and they didn’t like what they found.
      Back to the future - suicide for labor.

      As for MrRabbitt he’s had “no” substance since day 1

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:43am | 23/02/12

      So if that’s what he’s going to do, why are we reporting on it?  We’ll just wait for it to happen.

      No, nobody has any clues now.  We’re all guessing, and (whatever you think of him) more power to Rudd on that for stealing the march.

    • Joan says:

      06:45am | 23/02/12

      So this is the stable government Oakeshott and Windsor said Gillard would give.  once again proved beyond doubt the independents are the big fools as they as presented themselves to Australia on the first day giving support to Gillard. The smartest thing they could now do is take Australia to an election to clear the air. Labor will remain unstable - especially if Gillard remains at the helm. Time for independents to listen to majority of Australians - they want an election - NOW.

    • SteveKAG says:

      06:58am | 23/02/12

      I think the indpendents should jump ship, or Rudd resigns his seat and the power goes to the Liberals where Tony Abbott immediately calls for an election.
      The liberals would win in a record landslide election, the independents (other than Katter) would be diposed and the greens will become as relevent as the democrats or the Australia 1st party.

      It is nice thoughtful prediction of mine.

    • R says:

      07:12am | 23/02/12

      Agree, and I’m from Windsors electorate.
      He has lost his (previously massive) support

    • Wakey Wakey says:

      07:19am | 23/02/12

      Too right we do! Call an election now so we the people can decide.

    • Bill Door says:

      07:58am | 23/02/12

      Tony Windsor pretty much said on the ABC this morning that he would support the Coalition if Turnbull was leader.

      Are we about to see a coup against Tony Abbott?

    • Wayne Kerr says:

      07:58am | 23/02/12

      @SteveKAG

      “or Rudd resigns ” I thought that might be an option too but I don’t think that’s what Kevvie wants, whether that be because of his ego or whatever.  Saying that I don’t think he would have trouble getting a job after politcs but I just can’t see it happening just yet.

    • The righteous one says:

      08:26am | 23/02/12

      not quiet right steve, he could call an election but has no grounds for a double disolution, the greens would retain the senate balance of power

    • gabrianga says:

      09:37am | 23/02/12

      Who gives a tom-tit what Windsor thinks or wants?

      No surprise one bitter malcontent supports another bitter malcontent.

    • AdamC says:

      09:46am | 23/02/12

      Bill Door, that joke has become tedious.

    • Ryan says:

      01:43am | 24/02/12

      Sucks to be you, losers. All you have to do if you want to have the power to call an election is to win one. Bwahahahahaha

    • Kurisu Sonsaku says:

      06:55am | 23/02/12

      The ALP - a turd sandwich with extra ebola.

      I think i’ll order a truckload of popcorn for this meltdown
      smile

    • coconut gone wrong says:

      09:03am | 23/02/12

      me like this soap opera… i will bring my chair and a case of beer. pass some nibbles brother smile

    • Brad Coward says:

      11:41am | 23/02/12

      It’s like watching an episode of “Revenge”.  Just without designer labels, fancy houses and a visually attractive cast !

    • Brad Coward says:

      11:49am | 23/02/12

      ......and an interesting storyline !

    • thatmosis says:

      07:01am | 23/02/12

      What a choice we are presented with, a woman who nonbody believes or listens to and a know loser who would rather see his party destroyed than give up his own amibitions. Abbott must have thought all his Xamsses had come at once when this started to get out of hand and Krudds latest pre-emptive strike showing Gillard once again as the agressor and the bad guy was brilliant but futile.
        If the ALP thinks that a vote between these two will get rid of the ongoing white anting then they are sadly mistaken as who ever loses will continue to do so.
        Its like watching two pre school children fighting over a cookie that has been dropped in the sand, licked by the dof and broken in two, whoever wins it will get the cookie but also a gut full of sand and a continuing tummy ache.
        Have your stupid vote but nothing of consequence will change except another or the same loser at the top job, the factions and the Greens will still run the country into the ground and increase the debt level for each and every Australian with more failed policies.

    • SteveKAG says:

      07:30am | 23/02/12

      and guess who has to clean up their bloody mess again…...

    • Shanghai61 says:

      02:54pm | 23/02/12

      Xamsses. Wasn’t he that ancient Persian Pharaoh?

    • Against the Man says:

      07:09am | 23/02/12

      Laurie Oakes this morning on Gillard;
      ‘She isn’t the smartest politician in the world.’

      8 boats of asylum seekers in 8 days

      Victoria nursing unions going power crazy and putting lives at risk.

      HaHaHa brilliant, Australia in chaos because of Labor and their corrupt union buddies smile

    • Pete says:

      07:28am | 23/02/12

      that’s right, employment at historic highs, Australian $ booming, economy the strongest in the western world….Australia is lost in the chaos .....
      On the boats, we still take in less refugees than just about anyone one else in the world..
      Abbott is still Dr. No, and the LNP’s numbers are still rubbery, vote for these clowns, no way

    • Against the Man says:

      07:49am | 23/02/12

      Nice try Peter but you must think we are all silly-billys smile

      But keep trying, the majority will always show pity on you minority lot
      hahahahahaha

      Employment? hahahhahaha too funny wink

    • Old Man Emu says:

      07:53am | 23/02/12

      Pete - some clarification on your points.

      Employment at historic highs - well, actually it’s far lower than in the Howard years. What Labor did when they came in was relax the statistical rules governing employment and unemployment because they knew their workplace relations laws would kill off jobs. Based on the old calculations of unemployment that Howard and Costello lived by the current unemployment rate would be 10.2% compared to the 3.8% they inherited.

      Yes, the economy is the strongest in the western world, but that owes far more to the previous government than the current one. In fact, our economy has been weakening relative to others over the last three years.

      The number of refugees we take in is irrelevant. The issue is why are we allowing people to die coming here. Stop the boats and you stop the thousands of drownings each year that are a direct result of Labor’s policy.

      Abbott is not Dr No as the ALP would portray him. In fact, in his time as opposition leader he has supported 80% of the bills that have been proposed. That makes him a generuos Yes Man, given the quality of policies being developed by the ALP.

    • Gregg says:

      07:58am | 23/02/12

      @Pete,
      How did you manage to type that so quickly while blinded with your tears?

    • Nathan says:

      07:59am | 23/02/12

      @Pete
      None of that matters because anything good that happened is a result of the LNP anyway.

    • Marco says:

      08:03am | 23/02/12

      @Everybody - look at Pete.

      He perfectly symbolizes the arrogance and dishonesty that permeates the Labor party.  He is everything that is wrong with Labor right now. 

      He’s living life completely in denial, and I’m not talking about the river in Egypt.

    • Aitch B says:

      08:29am | 23/02/12

      @Pete

      I think many people understand the current situation regarding the economy, employment, etc.

      They are now quite rightly concerned about the current government’s stability and ability to govern in the best interests of all Australians. This is a massive distraction from that purpose - temporary though it may be.

      Also, this fiasco does nothing for our international standing and certainly detracts from potential investment - both local and overseas.

      Your remark about refugees bears no relevance to what the government is or isn’t doing about the asylum seeker situation. So what if we do take in fewer refugees? Do you advocate an open policy where anybody gets in with or without documentation? The Labor government certainly doesnt!

      Abbott doesn’t come into this at all. He should have 18 months to present his and the Coalition’s credentials to the voting public. I say 18 months because I believe that the government should be the ones to call an election - not the Coalition through a vote of no confidence - and I believe that they should run full term to give themselves any chance of regaining meaningful credibility.

      Of course, who is going to be at the helm while they try to do that is another interesting thing to consider….

    • Gillard is a Dudd says:

      08:35am | 23/02/12

      Pete can you stop your lie

      We talk about 35th per capital on boats in the world, much higher then most countries in the world

      As for the economy, it has almost nothing to do with the Gillard government, the economy was set up by the last ALP and last Liberal government, Fairwork has been a large problem for most employers and employees, and the Carbon tax is going to cost us at least 10s of thousand’s jobs

    • SteveKAG says:

      08:59am | 23/02/12

      @Pete - you and your cronies (Acotrel, Nathan etc…) keep saying that Abbott is Dr. NO
      The reason he does this is because dealing with this Labor government is liking dealing with a petulent child.
      Labor - “Can i have more money to spend on things i like daddy”
      Abbott - “No”
      I would rather him say no to Labor ALL of the time because religious zelot or not he has more brains than your lot combined.

    • Brad Coward says:

      11:55am | 23/02/12

      Please consider….knowing how much Mr Rudd enjoyed racking up those frequent flyer points when he was PM, should he win the leadership come Monday morning….who could he possibly trust to hold the position of Acting Prime Minister when he heads off overseas at the first available opportunity ?  We all know what happened last time !

    • GB says:

      02:12pm | 23/02/12

      @Pete. I’ll go with Ross Greenwood’s take on the current state of the economy over a rusted on ALP hack like yourself thanks. No mention of the record number of small businesses going to the wall over the last 12 months, or that it’s all being propped up by a booming mining industry, which incidentally they want to tax the shit out of? Anyways, here are Ross Greenwood’s words quoted directly:

      “Right now the Federal Government is at pains to tell everyone - including us the mug-punters and the International Monetary Fund, that it will not exceed its own, self-imposed, borrowing limits.

      How much?  $200 billion. 

      And here’s a worry.  If you work in a bank’s money market operation; or if you are a politician; the millions turn into billions and it rolls off the tip of the tongue a bit too easily. but every dollar that is borrowed, some time, has to be repaid. By you, by me and by the rest of the country.

      Just after 5 o’clock tonight I did a bit of math for Jason Morrison ( Sydney radio presenter). But it’s so staggering its worth repeating now.

      First thought; Gillard, Swan, Wong, before that Rudd, all of the Labor Cabinet, call these temporary borrowings, a temporary deficit.

      Remember Those Words :  Temporary Deficit.

      The total Government debt will end up around $200 billion.  So here’s a very basic calculation .. I used a home loan calculator to work it out….. it’s that simple..

      $200 billion is $2 hundred thousand million.

      The current 10 year Government bond rate is 4.67 per cent. I worked the loan out over a period of 20 years. Now here’s where it gets scary .... really scary.

      The repayments on $200 billion, come to more than one and a quarter billion dollars - every month - for 20 years.

      It works out we - as taxpayers - will be repaying $15.4 billion in interest and principal every year .. $733 for every man woman and child - every year.

      The total interest bill over the 20 years is - get this - $108 billion.

      Remember, this is a Government, that just 4 years ago, had NO debt. NO debt. In fact it had enough money to create the Future Fund, to pay the future liabilities of public servants’ superannuation, and it had enough to stick $20 billion into the Building Australia Fund

      ..... A note was sent to me which explains that the six leading members of the Government, from Ms Gillard down, have a collective work experience of 181 years, but only 13 in the private sector. If you take out of those 13 years the number that were spent as trade union lawyers, 11, only two years were spent in the private sector.

      So out of those 181 years:

      - no years spent running their own business  
      - no years spent starting their own business
      - no years spent as a director of a family business or a company
      - no years as a director of a public company
      - no years in a senior position in a public company
      - no years in a senior position in a private company
      - no years working in corporate finance
      - no years in corporate or business restructuring
      - no years working in or with a bank
      - no years of experience in the capital markets
      - no years in a stock-broking firm
      - no years in negotiating debt facilities with banks
      - no years running a small business
      - no years at the World Bank or IMF or OECD
      - no years in Treasury or Finance.

      But these people have plunged Australia into unprecedented debt. Well, in a way you can’t blame them. It’s clear the electorate did not do their homework, because the Government is there by right. Ah, but they are Labor and people vote for them because Labor is good for the working family - right???”

    • Ryan says:

      01:48am | 24/02/12

      Record investment. Record wealth. Record employment. Low interest rates. Low inflation.

      It’s driving you losers nuts, isn’t it.

    • Vivian says:

      07:12am | 23/02/12

      So the greatest moral challenge of our time is now just a political bargaining chip.

      Superficial and shallow. What an extraordinary thing to suggest Mal. How would anyone believe anything Rudd would say ever again.

      I am appalled.

    • Steve says:

      04:35pm | 23/02/12

      And the other option is someone who incites a race hate riot on Australia day. Hard to believe anyone still votes Labor.

    • watty says:

      07:15am | 23/02/12

      A bit thick….yes   A bit spiteful…yes..  Kamikaze pilots….no.

      Oakeshott and Windsor will stick to “their” Julia

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      07:22am | 23/02/12

      “For too long Kevin Rudd has put his personal interests before that of the ALP”
      Thus spoke Wayne Swan of the ALP.!
      Well, we have news for you Wayne!
      For even longer Julia Gillard Julia Gillard has been putting her own interests beofre the ALP &, even more importantly, Australia’s.
      Whateve happens the ALP has been destroyed from within.
      It was destroyed during the weeks before Wayne Swan, Mark Arbibe &, in particular, Julia Gillard actively worked to undermine the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd.
      Julia & Wayne have only to look in any mirror to see the human face of Disloyalty.
      You knew, long before you elected him Opposition Leader, what Rudd was like. You knew he was a workaholic, he expected those working for him to actually do some work. A surprise for many Public Servants.
      Today the ALP is finished. It will make no difference whether it is led by Gillard, Rudd or Pussy’s Bow the Voters are sick & tired of the ALP.
      The decent thing for whomesoever is elected leader is to immediately go to the Governor-General & tell her to issue the writs for a new Federal Election.
      The current ALP Government & all it’s Ministers - from top to bottom - is destroying this country. They are all far to interested in their own interests, keeping their jobs, seats. They have no interest whatsoever in what is best for Australia. The disloyalty of Gillard, Swan et al. towards the people of Australia would be regarded by many voters as nothing more, nor less, than treason.

    • Sam says:

      07:24am | 23/02/12

      lets just remember this..its looking likely an election will be forced now (either Rudd resigns from politics and ends the minority government, or he challenges and wins and an independant or someone quits). After this massive disaster the coalition will win an election in a landslide. But what opposition will there be? Tony will be able to get away with blue murder, this is not a good thing. Politics in Australia is going to be horrible for many years to come regardless of what happens this week

    • Bert says:

      07:51am | 23/02/12

      @Sam wishfull thinking, and a lot of us want an election except those you mentioned who are the deciders. Will only prove how self serving they are.

    • iansand says:

      07:25am | 23/02/12

      Good to see “fulsome” used correctly for once.

    • Daniel says:

      07:29am | 23/02/12

      Rudd should not challenge her and go to the back bench and get over this.

    • Al says:

      07:36am | 23/02/12

      Speculation and nothing but speculation!
      How about we see what actualy happens and then give opinions on what is not on what someone who might challenge for PM and might win and might introduce changes in policy and might reduce the carbon tax and might…..................
      Speculation doesn’t realy help, especialy as the vast majority of the Australian people can’t even influence the outcome untill the next election.

    • Bert says:

      07:44am | 23/02/12

      New 20 20 vision—Kevin Who?

    • JamesH says:

      07:47am | 23/02/12

      Notice who it was who’s asked for the caucus to consider a leadership spill?  That’s right punters, it was the PM.  Kevin is NOT challenging, his supporters are pushing for it but he personally couldn’t care less.  The media beat up of government continues and we are only suckers if we believe it.  Who’s REALLY running this country?

    • marley says:

      08:06am | 23/02/12

      I don’t know how to break it to you, but there are a couple of guys named Crean and Swan who both seem to think Rudd has been white-anting the leadership for his own purposes since before the last election.  Now perhaps you think that they’ve fallen for a media beat up, but most people with any common sense would think they might actually have a real, first hand sense of what has been going on. 

      Whether you like it or not, the media isn’t “beating up” this, it’s just reporting it.

    • KD says:

      09:53am | 23/02/12

      poor marley
      Too busy cheering the result to understand that Ltd. News started the white-anting and it developed into a media feeding frenzy.

      Cheer for the death of democracy while you are at it marley. Those with the most money set the policy of the nation.

    • AdamC says:

      10:09am | 23/02/12

      KD, there is a difference between being a ‘true believer’ and being outright delusional. Even your Labor idols have dropped the media beat-up pretence. I see no reason why you should persist in that stupid fantasy.

    • marley says:

      10:12am | 23/02/12

      @KD - I guess you didn’t read Barrie Cassidy over on the ABC, then.  Or all the comments in the Fairfax press.  If you believe this is all a media invention, you are wilfully ignoring all the evidence to the contrary.

    • KD says:

      10:27am | 23/02/12

      comprehension not your strong point is it?
      “Ltd. News started the white-anting and it developed into a media feeding frenzy.”

      Rejoice, the rich control the press. The press control the government. The government controls you.

      Rejoice, the rich are your masters now more than ever. Democracy is dead.

    • Hamish says:

      10:30am | 23/02/12

      Gotta say that as someone who works at News Ltd, I’m perfectly happy to accept the thanks of the Australian people for ‘beating up’ leadership tensions which clearly don’t exist. I mean Foreign Ministers resign all the time, Prime Ministers call last minute press conferences about party stability all the time, the ALP have internal ballots all the time, senior ministers, party elders and greasy union hacks constantly make statements in the media about the leadership. We just made the whole thing up. Kevin and Julia like each other a lot. Kevin was happy to hand over the leadership to his loyal sidekick. He’s not bitter at all. It’s not like he’s power hungry or anything.

      No need to thank me. I’m just a humble storm trooper in Rupert’s evil empire.

    • marley says:

      10:51am | 23/02/12

      @KD - according to Swan, this has been going on since before the 2010 election.  That would mean, presumably, since the moment Kevin got dumped.  You do recall that the ALP had a leadership problem back then, don’t you?  I don’t think that was a NewsLtd fabrication. 

      And we all recall the damaging leaks coming out in the run up to the election, don’t we.  And who was the prime suspect at the time?

      And Barrie Cassidy, who is certainly not a New hack, said a week ago that:

      “Rudd is campaigning. Rudd is talking to journalists about the leadership despite his astonishing denial.

      I know the names of some of those he has spoken to. I know where he said it – in his office – on a parliamentary sitting day – and I know what he said. He told them a challenge would happen; he told them he was prepared to lose the first ballot and go to the backbench; and in one conversation he laughed about the prospect of Gillard stumbling again.

      Yet the Foreign Minister has categorically denied ever having spoken to any journalist about the leadership.”

      Now, do you really think Barrie is making something like that up, and opening himself up to a defamation suit by calling Rudd a liar?  If you do, you probably believe the Craig Thomson sleeze affair was a NewsLtd fabrication as well.  Delusional.

    • KD says:

      11:06am | 23/02/12

      marley, you can read whatever you like. If you cannot comprehend what is written, you know nothing.
      Believe what your overlords write and suffer the consequences.

    • Manufactured Tripe says:

      11:27am | 23/02/12

      marley
      read this and see if you can comprehend the tip of the iceberg exposed.

      http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3845564.html

      If you can, then understand the role that Ltd. News plays in response to their masters calls.

    • Hamish says:

      12:42pm | 23/02/12

      Everyone knows News Ltd runs Australia and the world and the universe. Just like everyone knows the CIA blew up the world trade centre and the pentagon and JFK was murdered by aliens. They didn’t like his labour movement connections. Barack Obama is actually Rupert Murdoch with a mask on. I never leave the house without a foil hat on. Like, you guys are all totally brainwashed.

    • marley says:

      12:45pm | 23/02/12

      @manufactured tripe - so, Dunlop is essentially blaming the journalists for NOT reporting sufficiently on the leadership rivalry.  He’s saying that they kept quiet early in the piece, and that Rudd, with his selective leaks, “played them.”  He’s saying there was a leadership challenge all along, and if journalists had reported it at its inception, it would have ended there and then, but that Rudd was able to use their inertia to build momentum.  He may or may not be correct but he’s certainly not trying to argue, as KD is doing, that the Rudd challenge was an invention of NewsLtd. It was white-anting all right, but according to Dunlop and the three journalists he quotes, it was white-anting by Rudd.

    • AdamC says:

      12:54pm | 23/02/12

      OMG, it’s like the birth of an all-Aussie conspiracy theory! The 9/11 truthers have nothing on our home-grown Labor nutters!

    • throw me down the stairs my hat there you says:

      02:08pm | 23/02/12

      marley
      Put on the scuba gear and have a look at the underwater part of the iceberg.

      Remain ignorant

    • marley says:

      02:21pm | 23/02/12

      @tripe falling down stairs:  you’re the one that gave me the reference.  I understood it.  I gather you didn’t.

    • farkurnell says:

      03:31pm | 23/02/12

      come on guys get real .What media organisation was the reporter from interrogating Jules today?.
      While we’re on the subject, some media journalists are wannabe political commentators..If Mr Owen doesn’t like the answer he gets he should report that fact, not try and badger our PM disrespectfully.

    • Anna C says:

      07:53am | 23/02/12

      The ALP is self-destructing. Yay!

    • Frank says:

      01:52am | 24/02/12

      Dream on. Abbott is gone.

    • Marco says:

      07:57am | 23/02/12

      . . . but acetrol said there was no leadership crisis!??!  What’s going on?  grin

    • Against the Man says:

      09:01am | 23/02/12

      ..............but Nathan/TChong said there was no leadership crisis!??!  What’s going on?  smile

    • Anubis says:

      02:59pm | 23/02/12

      ... but where’s Persephone? Maybe curled up in the foetal position in a corner somewhere

    • Alex says:

      08:02am | 23/02/12

      I read that Mr Rudd is coming back to Australia via Dallas.  I believe Gillard has directed him to go past the Texas School Book Depository.

    • Martin says:

      08:22am | 23/02/12

      But Malcolm, you fail to realise (or acknowledge) that no matter what Rudd did the talkback cheersquad would remain feral towrds Labor, News Limited’s columnists would continue their anti- NBN , anti-Everything agenda everyday in both tabloid and broadsheet and Abbott would continue to use three word slogans without challenge by the media.

      Labor’s only chance is for Gillard to hold on and hope the hate-media wear out their welcome in peoples loungerooms and breakfast tables !

    • Pedro says:

      08:24am | 23/02/12

      Julia and her pack of vile backstabbers must resign.
      I cannot believe the poisonous bile being spouted by the likes of   Wayne Swan & Martin Ferguson

    • Peter says:

      08:29am | 23/02/12

      Kevin Rudd is looking & sounding like a REAL prime minister.
      Julia Gillard as always,  looks and sounds like a school mam.

    • marley says:

      08:45am | 23/02/12

      What’s the old saying - “looks can be deceiving.”  Whether or not Julia is a real prime minister, we all know Rudd was a disaster - unfocused, unable to delegate, unwilling to make difficult decisions, afraid to do the right thing if it might mean losing a few votes, utterly driven by polls and not by policy direction.  Sorry, the fact that he can manage at times to appear magisterial doesn’t make him a real PM.  It makes him a so-so actor.

    • farkurnell says:

      04:28pm | 23/02/12

      so whats wrong with school mamas?Peter you obviously had a bad experience at school.
      Looks like the Ruddstar is at again embellishing and exaggerating “if we don’t get it right there’ll be no tomorrow”.
      I seem to recall an earlier statement regarding global warming from Rudd PM ” the greatest issue of our generation”.Then subsequently back flipping when it got tough to change policy.
      What Aust needs is a PM who has a spine.Rudd does not have one.
      Gillard does.Tony ?? .

    • Stephen says:

      08:32am | 23/02/12

      If you believe Climate change is caused by CO2 then you believe in a fairy tail of a world without corruption, a world where people with agenda’s throwing billions a year at scientists doesn’t buy them the result they were asking for.  You believe the world is innocent and the government never lies to you.  Your a fool, a sheep and need to educate yourself on history and how powerful people control what the mass population thinks through the mainstream media.

      Carbon emission’s are not poison, they greatly enhances all plants ability to grow and the slight warming is not caused by CO2 its mostly caused by the sun naturally warming and cooling the planet.  Climate scientists almost completely disregard the sun as the main change in temperate when history clearly shows the climate warmed and cooled before they came along with their fudged homogenized data and scary politically motivated climate models that are now 10 years on proving to be completely inaccurate and clearly flawed.  Who cares if Rudd is in or not the PM is not the one you should vote for, its the party policies.

    • iansand says:

      09:32am | 23/02/12

      What do you think the Earth’s temperature would be without CO2?  Look it up.  You wouldn’t be revealing your ignorance here without it.

    • James in Brisbane says:

      10:06am | 23/02/12

      Have you looked at ocean acidity lately? CO2 isn’t just what it does in the air.

    • Gregg says:

      08:48am | 23/02/12

      I do wonder just how strong Gillard’s support is for if she has unassailable numbers as is reported by her key supporters, what is the need to have a leadership spill?

      So Rudd has spat his dummy, a minister resigns before he was pushed and he’ll not be the first minister to have resigned in office nor the last but not too many would do it with the hysterics he has, all quite typical of his own temperament that is totally unsuitable for public office or leadership of any kind.

      Gillard needed to show some strength and just follow up with the briefest of statements to accept his resignation and make the succession appointment, end of story and if Kevin wanted out of politics, let it happen for with Slipper and Independents support, Labor could still pass legislation.
      If Kevolemon wanted to stew on the back bench, so be it.

      He has already played his hand and showed his style and Gillard has just weakened hers but given other recent decisions of hers that is not surprising.
      She must really lack some good sound strong ministerial mates who have her ear.

    • Govt@FauxCitizen says:

      08:50am | 23/02/12

      Rudd gets a couple of supporters and goes on his power trip .....yaaaaawn seen it all beforrrre…zzzzzzzzzzz

    • Kathy says:

      08:52am | 23/02/12

      Mmm… I am wondering what the wild card Peter Slipper is thinking about today…Will he resign as speaker?...

    • Against the Man says:

      08:53am | 23/02/12

      Now the pressure is on the Independents! HaHaHa

      Are they going to do the right thing?

      I was right for the last 2 years and now the ALPers just have to eat crow hahahahhahahahaha smile

    • Trevor says:

      01:56am | 24/02/12

      They already did. Sucks to be you, but there’s not a thing you can do about it.

    • Dr B S Goh, Australian in Asia says:

      08:57am | 23/02/12

      Looking back over the lat 12 mths the carbon tax was a major issue that destroyed PM Gillard.

      Malcolm you suggestion that K Rudd should reduce the tax to $10 a ton is a brilliant idea. In fact it should go down to $2 a ton just to be a symbolic trick.

      The Durban Conference on global warming failed. 300,000,000 Indians do not have electricity in India’s energy crisis. When these Indians get their electricity mainly from coal Australia’s contribution to global CO2 emission is even more irrelevant.

    • KimL says:

      09:05am | 23/02/12

      Rudd expected them to work, those lazy bludgers wanted a free ride on our taxpayers money, they lost votes the last election because of what they did to Rudd and they will lose more next election because of what they have done to him now. Swan can swan off I doubt his electorate will vote for him, he is a very nasty man. Gillard is the most disliked woman in Australia.

    • ZaSaMa says:

      02:45pm | 23/02/12

      He lost the primary vote last time around and only got in on the back of Greens preferences. I have no doubt the constituents of Lilley won’t let that happen again.

    • pies says:

      09:32am | 23/02/12

      You may well be very happy to see the backside of the trecherous commie red head shiela. But keep in mind Ruddy is also Agenda 21 thru and thru and most likely so are most of the libs.
      If you cant see it yet; they are all owned, totally bought and sold, both parties.
      Yes many of them are on the Agenda 21 bandwagon,therefore in favor of germany mark IV and you know what happened there. Check out FEMA camps on YT.

    • Aitch B says:

      10:00am | 23/02/12

      Wow….. you’ve worked out what Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V do. Such a huge achievement for such a small mind.

      Now go back to the classrom….... Conspiracy 101 commences in 5 minutes.

    • prosperity says:

      10:37am | 23/02/12

      Pies:  Of course our two major political parties are both in the clutches of Uncle Sam.  Is Australia a sovereign State? Can Australia make a major defence, foreign affairs or economic decision without deferring to our American masters? 

      Most recently we had 2,500 American soldiers planted in Darwin, with 4,500 marines to follow.  Then there are the American troops embedded in every military installation in the country, and the additional bases the Americans are building for themselves. That should keep the Australians - er, that is the Chinese - under control.

      The Americans call our politicians the ‘Coffee Boys”, such is the respect in which they hold them and how little they have to pay them.  And Australia is known, quite rightly, as no more than a vassal State.

    • LDLS says:

      10:59am | 23/02/12

      Nah… No way he worked out Control V & C.  That would mean correct spelling ....must be copying the kid’s homework sitting next to him wink

    • prosperity says:

      10:05am | 23/02/12

      I’m just glad that throughout these tumultuous times, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd and Tony Abbott have remain focussed on the Australian national interest and the well-being and ambitions of the Australian people.

      How blessed we are to have such leaders, each with a clearly communicated vision for the short, medium and long term future of Australia.

      The River Murray system has benefited from the collective wisdom of our leaders and water problems are resolved. Our national highway system is beyond reproach.  Education and health systems are beyond criticism. Relations with countries in our region could not be better. Industrial relations have never been more amicable.  The tax system has been reformed. Aboriginal reconciliation has dramatically improved the lot of our indigenous people.  Refugees from other countries have been quickly processed and humanely treated.

      How much we owe Julia, Kevin and Tony!  After all these efforts, surely they all deserve a UN posting in a far-away country - for life.

    • thatmosis says:

      10:52am | 23/02/12

      Sorry clown, but what has the Leader of the Opposition got to do with the mess that the ALP has got us in. He doesnt make the policies or waste the money, its the clowns that are suppose to be in charge of this country. 6 Boys scouts in a row boat armed with sharp sticks could take this country over now and this so called Government would be so self absord in their own little cat fight that they woyuldnt notice. The whole country is going to shit in a handcart and here are our “leaders” once again bickering over who’s got the biggest balls. The Australian people dont matter as far as this Government is concerned as long as they keep their hands on the piggy bank.

    • prosperity says:

      12:05pm | 23/02/12

      If “thatmosis” is referring to me, may I make the observation that I find such unprompted vilification unnecessary?  Happily enough, it reflects on him rather than my goodself.

      Secondly may I make it quite clear that my opinion of Mr. Abbott is as low as the other 149 people who inhabit the House of Representatives.  He and his party have had the opportunity to make the policies and waste the money while they have been in charge of the country. It makes no difference. Both sides of politics are, almost without exception, party hacks who are in it for their own advantage.  If one was to rank their combined contribution to the nation, it wouldn’t register.

    • Get It Right says:

      10:12am | 23/02/12

      It amuses me no end to hear the derisive laughter from Liberal voters who have not caught on to the fact that we are two years out from an election and if Rudd is re-elected by Caucus as PM he has plenty of time to right the ALP ship to reignite their hopes of re-election. What they seem to miss is that getting the blood-letting done now gives time for the wounds to heal, whilst a perceived strong leader takes the reins. Like it or not, many swinging voters would vote Labor with Rudd as PM, because he has public respect and sympathy due to the manner of his previous demotion. Those same voters cannot abide Abbott and will never vote Greens.  Regardless of how much of Malcolm’s musings were to come to pass, Rudd would play it smart.

      However, I deem it unlikely that Rudd will win the is particular spill. He really shouldn’t have the numbers. He has had a stab at the factional infighting in his
      resignation speech which will galvanize opposition within the party to him, many whom dislike his autocratic style, which I doubt he can alter, no matter how much he tries, much like Abbott cannot avoid being an attack dog with a monk’s morality, no matter how much he tries.

      One scenario I ‘m not so sure of though is whether Rudd will resign from his seat if he loses on Monday. He’s a Party man, no matter how much he wants to be the Parliamentary leader and no matter how much he dislikes the “faceless men”. His loyalty to the ALP (certainly not to Gillard) would probably mean he stays on the back bench, much to his discomfort. The prospect of further white-anting would be tempting for him, but he may decide to do the noble thing and accept defeat this time as final. If he does, my respect for him will grow, even though it will ensure a Lib victory. One thing is for sure, Labor is gone at the next election with Gillard at the helm.

    • Anthony says:

      10:37am | 23/02/12

      Rudd sitting on the back bench and being noble will not happen. Slipper is a friend of Rudd, his response will be interesting. Swap Oakshott and Windsor for Katter and Wilkie and it is game on. Probably all irrelevant because in two years as you say we will all decide. Watching the ALP in NSW seemed to take forever yet the public decided. If Rudd looses what will stop other MP’s from not resigning and making a stand against the faceless men. No this will end bad for the ALP whether now or in two years. Personally I would prefer an election now. Can someone start a movement?

    • Get It Right says:

      10:43am | 23/02/12

      T’would seem this is mainly the subject of the other Tori’s “scorched earth” thread. Should have read that one first. ha!

    • Get it right (call an election) says:

      10:44am | 23/02/12

      It amuses me no end that public servants, welfare reciepients and other rusted on Labor voters, have not yet made the conection between them loosing their jobs and payments as a direct result of voting for this incompetent, dysfunctional Labor party. Look at what is happening in Greece, pensions and public servants jobs are being slashed due to years of socialist governments (just like this Labor one).....it can happen here too.

    • Sten says:

      10:59am | 23/02/12

      @GIR The thing is Kevin doesn’t give a rats for your respect - its meaningless and serves no purpose to his ambitions

    • IFS says:

      11:00am | 23/02/12

      Get it right…has your monacle cracked as it fell into your glass of Perrier?

    • Anthony says:

      11:10am | 23/02/12

      Yes you should have, seems we both agree.

    • Get It Right says:

      12:37pm | 23/02/12

      @Anthony. Your prediction that Rudd won’t be content to sit back loyally if defeated. is most probably correct, unfortunately. The continuing speculation if he remains in the Parliament of the timing of the next challenge will continue to be destabilizing. Really, the most honorable thing he could do would be to encourage the Indies to resign with him and force that election now, agreed.

      @Sten. Respect and being seen to do the right thing is very important to
      Kevin, I believe, especially after the way he was knifed. He has taken the moral high ground at this point, and no matter his fate on Monday, he will want his legacy to be well remembered, even if as a martyr to his cause.

      @IFS. I’m sorry if my correct usage of the English language disturbs your stereotype of those who may vote Labor from time to time.

    • Bill says:

      10:29am | 23/02/12

      Get it - it’s actually 1 and 1/2 years, although it’s a shame that the public will have to put up with their country being run into the ground for that long before the natural government of choice is given a chance to fix labor’s mess.

    • Sam says:

      02:00am | 24/02/12

      The what ?

    • Mr Sausage says:

      10:32am | 23/02/12

      Gillard is hopeless, but Rudd is a manipulative lying egomaniac incompetent tool. Under Rudd Government did not function.  If Rudd gets back in there will be no-one putting their hand up for a Cabinet job and no-one will work in the Pm’s office. Maybe Kim Carr as Treasurer - Industry Minister (they will need plenty of free sandwiches)???

    • Mr Pod says:

      10:51am | 23/02/12

      If Rudd loses and forces a by election, does this bring down Julias government? If he steps down in Morningside there is little likelihood of Labor retaining the seat .  If Julia loses Windsor says he will withdraw support, general election time either way?.

    • St. Michael says:

      11:23am | 23/02/12

      Rudd could only be forced to a by-election if he left Parliament altogether.  That’s not going to happen.  He’ll go to the backbench at worst, but his position is arguably even stronger there since it was with the backbench he had the least connect as a Minister and he’ll have a lot of time on his hands to go and gather further numbers for another challenge.  The only real way Gillard can really detoxify Labor at this point (leaving aside all the policy screwups) is to throw Rudd clean out of the ALP.  She won’t do that since that would make him an independent and yet another person to negotiate with in order to keep government going.

    • marley says:

      12:33pm | 23/02/12

      @St. Michael - I think it all depends how vindictive Rudd really is.  I don’t find it impossible to envisage him resigning his seat, forcing a by-election and then standing back while the Government loses a confidence vote and has to go to the polls early.  Gillard would have no time to recover, and the Coalition would waltz in.  And Rudd would be grinning like the Cheshire cat.

    • Mr Pod says:

      01:48pm | 23/02/12

      I think Rudd has been driven by personal revenge rather than any greater good ever since he realised the UN top job was out of reach.

    • farkurnell says:

      03:13pm | 23/02/12

      If your scenario is correct Mr Pod that would make the Ruddstar the greatest political rat,turncoat hypocrite since .....er Peter Slipper

    • St. Michael says:

      03:19pm | 23/02/12

      @ marley: there’s that possibility.  To me, Rudd appears to be a campaigner and a plotter and planner.  That is, he strikes me as vindictive, certainly, but much more inclined to Shakespearean revenge than the hot-blooded immediate variety.

      If he really wanted to hurt Gillard immediately, he’d just resign right now and force the by-election since the Parliamentary numbers don’t really change after a spill - or if they do they change against him, since Oakeshott and Windsor seem to be leaning away from ever supporting him in government.  And that measure leaves the door open for people to blame him for Labor’s electoral loss, which I don’t think his ego could stand.

      The way he’s doing it avoids that.  It has little downside and a lot of potential upside: if he wins the leadership this time round, he’s got 18 months to turn it around for Labor, which he believes he’s done before and with less time from 2007.  That decision would also break union power in the ALP at least for a while and allow him to overturn the more unpopular policy decisions.

      If he doesn’t win it this time round, he goes to the backbench and can look at shoring up more support there, since it’s his weakest patch, ready for another spill either just before the carbon tax is passed and a backlash hits the government ... or earlier, if Campbell Newman doesn’t win his seat in Queensland, since that’s a seat within Rudd’s own electorate and which he’d claim credit for.

      All the while Gillard’s credibility is undermined and she looks weaker and weaker, since (as I said) her only real, final solution is to ditch Rudd from the ALP altogether and just pray people like her more than they like the ALP and more than they like Tony Abbott.

      None of those options necessitates Rudd pulling the pin and leaving Parliament, and they put him within striking distance of the leadership again.  Since he already thinks he can pull off a successful return coup, there’s nothing to say he wouldn’t think he could do it on a return attempt.  If he gets his thirty-odd votes, that’s enough to damage Gillard for the next few months alone—a slow twist of the knife rather than a quick tossing from government.

      It’s possible Rudd might pull the pin entirely, but I reckon that’d be a last ditch option if the second attempt on the leadership fails.

    • Andrew W says:

      11:13am | 23/02/12

      It will be interesting to see if the S*** stirrers in the Daily Press are to be asked to declare their superannuation tax positions for themselves and spouses. The turnout at Kevin and Julia would need some extra explaining.
      I am aware that one reporter feels his own retirement is close to being involved in a very big way. The closeness of this is much closer for him than he cares to admit.

    • Ray says:

      11:23am | 23/02/12

      As Kevin Rudd had good reason—with Julia Gillard and Wayne Swan’s agreement by the way —to shelve the proposed emissions trading scheme in April 2010, he has every good reason to shelve the carbon tax should he be reappointed PM next week, namely:
      .  the carbon tax will force up electricity prices substantially;
      . all industries apart from mining are facing hard times, and therefore cannot sustain the added burden of higher electricity prices and other flow-on effects of the carbon tax;
      . the carbon tax wipes out the comparative advantages of the export industries;
      . imports are not subject to the carbon tax and therefore will make local manufacture less competitive and force them to reduce employment;
      . the carbon tax will force manufacturers to move offshore to reduce their costs;
      , there is no international pressure as other countries recently decided to postpone carbon taxes until at least 2020;
      . there has not been any global warming for the past 15 years;
      . there is no scientific evidence that carbon dioxide emissions cause any measurable increase in global warming.

    • Weary says:

      11:25am | 23/02/12

      When Brown chose to quote Gillard by saying she ‘couldn’t give a rats arse’ he probably thought that sounded, reassuring and decisive.  Says alot about the headspace of that creep, dismissing what many Aussies see as massive issue by using language you’d expect to hear from a mullet—sporting high school drop out. 
      Good luck to him.  Maybe if he concentrated on reality as much as he does needlessly wasting money he wouldn’t have had to file for bankruptcy.  Do we want a man who can’t even manage his own dollar-mite savings account to even have a say in how we spend OUR money?  It’s laughable that his opinion is even reported.

    • KRudd says:

      11:28am | 23/02/12

      Jeremy Lin’s awesome! Go Knicks!!!

    • Steve says:

      11:34am | 23/02/12

      Poor old Mal, your beloved Labor party isn’t looking too good at the moment, looks like that safe labor seat is sailing awaaaaaaay…....
      The line “its all Tony Abbott / Liberal parties fault” isn’t working mate.

    • poa says:

      11:55am | 23/02/12

      Mal must be planning on running for a safe ALP seat somewhere. Julia promised you one mate?
      Clearly you are delusional in regards Gillard.
      1) Rudd will walk on Monday if he’s not PM.
      2) The only reason Gillard has passed so much legislation is because the LIbs have supported good policies. Maybe you can tell us how many times the LIbs voted with the ALP? So much for your Hawker Britten Dr No spin.
      Thats your most outstanding Gillard acheivement mate?
      The number of pieces of legislation passed.
      Abbot acheivement more like it!
      Suppose you’d better keep flogging Gillard ALP.
      A journalist licence will be out of your skills range when Abbot gets in.

    • Anubis says:

      03:14pm | 23/02/12

      @ poa - There is no longer such a thing as a safe Labor seat

    • poa says:

      03:45pm | 23/02/12

      Anubis….Of course theres such a thing as a safe ALP seat.
      But just like ALP princess Maxine McWho reportedly said..“But You wouldn’t want to live there!!

    • mr g says:

      11:57am | 23/02/12

      The ALP should take a leaf from the Lib’s loyalty manual, and show their hand.
      The Lib’s pretender, Abbott, enlisted Turnbull’s deputy Bishop, to side with him to white-ant Turnbull. He knew it would work because she had already, from the same support position helped Turnbull to undermine Nelson.
      That’s pretty clever, but did anyone complain? No! Because they weren’t stirred up by the media to the end that they should be appalled.
      All of the crap about “knifing” is just that. Crap. Gillard took a proposal to Caucus, Caucus voted, and Gillard won. And away went the media, and everyone else calling for Rudd’s demise a week before joined in. Abbott said that Rudd was not fit to govern. Gillard deposed him by vote and then Abbott turned on Gillard. It’s called the politics of opportunism, and it is practiced too often.
      But Abbott, we are told, is an honorable man. He should watch his back and not leave ‘loyalty’ as his only armour, as yon Bishop has a mean and hungry look. And she has learned well the art of ambition.

    • ZaSaMa says:

      04:06pm | 23/02/12

      Some cheese with that whine Mr G?

    • Steve says:

      04:49pm | 23/02/12

      Mr g, exactly how much more proof do you need that the Labor Party is made up of highly dysfunctional weirdos that HATE each others guts? That is all that they are good at, HATING.
      The ALP are busy bludgening each other into a bloody pulp and you blame the Liberals? You would fit in well at the ALP.

    • Glenn says:

      12:42pm | 23/02/12

      Where’s Nossy today? Seems noticably/conveniently absent from anything I’ve read

    • cynic says:

      01:30pm | 23/02/12

      The once sycophant of jooles is now a re-run of a sycophant for saint kevin. Just a joke really.

    • Angela Kruger says:

      03:00pm | 23/02/12

      Gillard makes Judas Iscariot look a gentleman.

    • stephen says:

      09:32pm | 23/02/12

      Judas was probably a fiction.
      Rudd should be.

    • Monty says:

      03:40pm | 23/02/12

      The Labor Party will still be divided, it will still have its factions and the…Rudd was very cunning in the way he resigned as Foreign Minister…it left the ALP with only one alternative…

    • Rod J'That says:

      04:41pm | 23/02/12

      This whole sorry saga would be avoided in the first place if journos had the guts to name political leakers when they leak. It’s one thing to protect sources who have something at stake in the real world (say the lives of their families) it’s quite another to participate in the wilful manipulation of our political system in a bull***t game that paralyses much needed governance of the country. It is not the prerogative of a politician to put their personal interests above those of the country, and it’s not the prerogative of journos to assist them to do that.

    • secret agenda says:

      04:58pm | 23/02/12

      Does Rudd have a razor gang ?

    • Greene says:

      08:23pm | 23/02/12

      Stationery letterhead, Mal.

      Stationary letterhead is the stuff thats not going anywhere.

    • William says:

      02:05am | 24/02/12

      I wish I had a dollar for every Newsagent I’ve seen advertising that they sell that stuff.

    • An A-Political Observer says:

      10:33pm | 23/02/12

      There are three scenarios for KR:
      1) he will wait till the very last moment before the caucus starts, by lobbing a “grenade” and announce he will not contest and leave parliament and the party all together.
      2) he will contest at the caucus meeting, and in best of cases he’ll win with a slim majority. and the saga will still continue because no one is happy either way.
      3) he will contest at the caucus meeting, and loses. He will hold a press conference and announce, he will quit parliament and party altogether.  he will have a holiday. He get then a phone call from an international body saying that he got the cushy job he wanted.
      And wait, there is more! The Labour Party is in upheaval. A few members have also announced that they are resigning from parliament and party altogether.
      A new election is called around Easter. Labour is trashed in the election and is lucky to keep a handful of seats.

    • dave says:

      11:51pm | 23/02/12

      It is a laugh reading about all the delusional Labor supporters, including the writter obviously, who have conveniently fogotten what a complete stuff up Kapt Krudd was only a few years ago.  That we are even been subjected to the spectacle of a failure battling an even bigger failure to be the Labor leader.  Sort of says it all.

    • Cherry Blossom says:

      01:02am | 24/02/12

      What a revengeful manipulative egomaniac Rudd is.

 

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