Voting is now open for TV Week’s Logie Awards, have you got your vote in? No? That’s not surprising. I’m sure that most people in Australia would give the same answer.

Somebody give this man an Academy Award

It’s strange that we place so much emphasis on these awards in Australia’s television industry. TV Week claims a weekly readership of 759,000, and their key demographic of teenage girls is hardly representative of the Australian population. There’s a reason that Kylie Minogue took out the Gold Logie in 1988 at 19.

And yet until 2011, this key readership was charged with choosing what is classed as ‘the best’ that Australian television has to offer. The process has definitely improved by opening the voting up to everyone via the internet, and not just those that sent in magazine cuttings with their votes. But the fact that we’re making it a popularity contest open to the public is a flawed system.

Let’s first look at how the voting system currently works. Firstly, to lodge your vote you need to wade through and decide on at least eight categories, most of which you won’t really care about. There are a whopping 90 actors you can choose from who are up for the silver logie for most popular actor, with similar numbers up for grabs in popular actress and popular presenter.

Add to this other categories covering emerging actors and actresses, categories covering sports, lifestyle, factual, and reality, and it’s quite an undertaking to narrow it all down and put your vote in.

Only those who can stomach to part with all their personal information to TV Week will count themselves amongst the small number who lodge a vote.

But what’s the problem with this, you’ll surely point out? It clearly means that only the dedicated viewers glued to the Google box make the decision, and surely those are the votes that count the most.

Well, yes, and no. Such a system is very much open to vote rigging (and there have been suspicions that television networks have taken part in such activities in the past), and even voting bias in the way the names are sorted - alphabetical order by first name rather than random gives those with names beginning with early letters an advantage.

Similar voting biases were found by economist Dr Liam Lenten when examining song names and voting in the popular music poll Triple J Hottest 100.

The other notable flaw of the Logies is how much the commercial stations throw their weight into promoting the nominees. This leaves public broadcaster ABC at a distinct disadvantage by their own rules, as such campaigning is viewed as commercial promotion for TV Week overlords ACP magazine, and therefore contravening the ABC charter.

This aspect of the popularity contest leads to embarrassments such as morning television shambler Karl Stefanovic winning the Gold Logie in 2011, despite the fact that fellow nominee Adam Hills was on two much more widely watched programs on the ABC.

So what’s the alternative? Maybe the industry should place less emphasis on the Logies, and just delegate them to their proper place - a popularity contest decided by teenage readers of a magazine. If other awards were decided this way, Twilight would be winning Oscars for best movie.

Instead, it might be time to recognise the AACTA awards (formerly the AFI awards) as the only legitimately impartial award to the television industry in the country. Television needs to help itself in this aspect, and promote the AACTA awards for what they are.

Counterparts in the United States and the United Kingdom, the Emmy Awards and the BATFAS respectively, likewise use academy members (ie the industry) to decide who their awards go to. The public don’t come into it.

The only problem with this? Most of the AACTA award nominations for 2012 have landed at the doorstep of the ABC and SBS, and it’s proof that quantity of audience doesn’t match up with the quality of programming.

It’s hard to imagine commercial television giving AACTA awards more prestige when their content rarely make the cut. Channel Seven may win forty weeks of ratings, but without a single nomination in the AACTAs, they’re more likely to just ignore them.

There are a place for awards like Logies, but the esteem that it’s given in the Australian television industry, and its continued reliance on popularity voting, shows a surprising disregard for talent.

If TV Week want them to be taken seriously, it needs to strip the “popularity awards” out of the entire process.

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    • S.L says:

      05:33am | 25/01/12

      How can you take an award won by the “walking manaquin” King Karl seriously? Most TV people just treat Logies night as a free piss up anyway….............

    • KH says:

      06:22am | 25/01/12

      No really? These awards are a load of bollocks? Who would have thought?!!!!

      Of course they are, and its not in commercial televisions interest to change the status quo, as they will be the losers - I mean, we wouldn’t want them to have to raise their game, now would we?  The fact that D grade ‘soap stars’ win awards anywhere is proof that the award is not worth anything.

    • Hoob says:

      06:30am | 25/01/12

      When giggling at your own jokes wins you a Gold Logie, you know Australian television has no standards.

    • Nathan Explosion says:

      07:22am | 25/01/12

      I take the “Most Outstanding” catergories seriously, as they are peer voted. I usually agree with the choices.

      The “Most Popular” catergories are just that, and just as meaningless. When Rove is the most popular “personality”, it’s time to change the system.

    • Tubesteak says:

      07:46am | 25/01/12

      Being big on Australian TV is like being the smartest kid in the special ed class. It’s not much of an achievement.

      When they start creating shows of decent quality then it’ll matter. That means they’d have to be the standard of Dexter, Breaking Bad, Boardwalk Empire, The Sopranos, True Blood, Californication and Mad Men. Good luck.

    • Nathan Explosion says:

      09:21am | 25/01/12

      There’s starting to be some pretty good locally produced shows on Foxtel, like Spirited and Love My Way. Not really my thing, but well written and acted.

      I really enjoy Tough Nuts: Australia’s Hardest Criminals on CI. Extremely interesting.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      11:49am | 25/01/12

      Agreed Tube, it’s no wonder all of our good actors leave Oz. When something like Home and Away and Neighbours are on the air for as long as they have been, it says a lot about the quality of Australian tv. We’re so far behind it doesn’t matter anymore.

    • Tubesteak says:

      01:01pm | 25/01/12

      Nathan Explosion
      I’m too much of a tightwad to pay for Foxtel. I’d just end up watching repeats of The Simpsons. Those shows don’t seem like my cuppa either. But there was a show about a brothel that seemed interesting. I think Australia has the talent to produce good drama but just not the will.

      Winston
      Agreed but see reply to Nathan.

    • Cynicised says:

      07:50am | 25/01/12

      Of course peer-voted awards for creatives are the only ones that mean anything at all. Geez, is the sky blue today?

    • subotic says:

      08:06am | 25/01/12

      Every time a picture of Karl Stefanovic is published, Chuck Norris drop punts a Mexican baby….

    • fairsfair says:

      10:16am | 25/01/12

      Why would anyone care? I am over TV in general. You finally find some free time where you want to watch and there is sweet FA on.

      Last night for instance. Channel 10 - prime time replay of all that was played in prime time on Sunday night. Channel 7 - Tennis across their regular channel and Channel 72. Channel 9 - Two and a Half Men and Big Bang repeats.

      I watched a doco on Jesse James on SBS2. It was quite interesting actually, but mainstream telly needs to wake up. Who is watching Two and Half men episodes from four years ago during prime time? WTF is going on Australia?

      There are some really good shows on TV that are pushed back to rediculous time slots to make way for the usual durge. Pull up your socks.

      I hardly watch TV these days (and I am a lover of it). I can’t see that changing anytime soon.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      11:52am | 25/01/12

      Also this. Why watch tv with all the insepid crap that’s on it when you can just download all the good shows for free, and watch them without adds? I’m actually surprised that people still watch foxtel, let alone commercial tv.

    • bella starkey says:

      10:25am | 25/01/12

      I don’t think TV week is read by teenagers.Maybe in 1988 it was, and those people continued reading it until this day. When I was in primary school we used to get TV Hits magazine, it had lots of stickers of people from Party of 5 that have not been heard of since.

      But TV Week with its serious focus on what is happening next on Packed to the Rafters, better homes and gardens and what ever else channel seven is trying to flog is not really prime teenage girl viewing.

    • Grant says:

      10:49am | 25/01/12

      It’s possible to record The Logies and just watch the ‘real’ bits.

    • Cam says:

      11:17am | 25/01/12

      It’s scary to think someone would even bother .... I’d sooner watch the School Janitors Award night.

    • Pandabater says:

      11:34am | 25/01/12

      Grant, that is like skipping the beating part of torture to go straight to the burning with cigarettes bit. Spare yourself the pain.

    • Seth Brundle says:

      12:51pm | 25/01/12

      I started downloading stuff in 2006.  I only got around to setting up my tv antenna a couple of months ago.  I no longer recognise half the people on TV, and where did all these extra channels come from?  I gave up on Foxtel last year because the only shows they had I was interested in were ones I had already seen, and paying to watch TV ads didnt seem right to me.

      Anyway, I couldnt find anything to watch so I went back to my media files.

    • Katq says:

      08:19am | 18/10/12

      Write more, thats all I have to say. Literally, it seems as though you reiled on the video to make your point. You obviously know what youre talking about, why throw away your intelligence on just posting videos to your weblog when you could be giving us something informative to read?

 

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