To some Australians the high dollar is cause for celebration.

Cartoon: Jon Kudelka.

A great way to pick up a bargain over the internet or a cheap holiday overseas. But for many, including 100 workers at Caterpillar in suburban Melbourne last week, it means watching your industry become less competitive and suddenly finding yourself out of a job.

The cause of the high dollar is Australia’s mining boom.

The mining boom is good for our economy, but not if we allow its effects to run rampant and destroy our manufacturing industry.

If we put all our eggs in the mining boom basket, we will face an economic disaster when the boom eventually ends.

Simply put, selling our dirt to China and India, and buying it back as plasma-screen TVs and photovoltaic solar panels is not a sustainable long-term economic strategy.

While the mining industry can make our country rich, we will end up poor in the long term if we don’t use that money wisely.

The workers at Caterpillar actually made earth-moving equipment for our domestic mining industry, but not even their jobs were safe after the high-dollar made Mexican imports marginally cheaper.

The real economic debate in Australia should not be over our minuscule level of national debt, but about our potential long-term jobs deficit if we don’t invest our mining windfalls for the future.

A ‘mining tax’, such as the Mineral Resource Rent Tax, is important. But more important is the use we make of that money.

We need to invest to make our manufacturing industry more competitive.

This means giving business more incentive to invest in research and development, and training existing workers and young people in the skills they need to work in high-technology, high-skill manufacturing sectors.

Australia’s economic future depends on a strong and competitive manufacturing industry. The clean energy manufacturing sector is already worth billions of dollars globally, but it will become bigger still over the coming decade.

Australia still has the chance to become a global leader in smart technology like solar power, but other countries aren’t waiting for us.

A report released by the Australian National University last week shows that Australia’s solar rebate scheme led to an increase in imports of solar panels from $17 million in 2002 to $295 million in 2009. This is a disgrace. We should have been making those solar panels in Australia.

The attitude that we should simply throw our hands in the air and send all manufacturing to China and India is irresponsible, and ignorant of the policies overseas governments have in place to help their manufacturers compete.

China, India and many countries in South East Asia are successful because their governments have invested heavily in building up their manufacturing capacity. Their governments use economic policy to keep their currencies under control, and they hand out massive subsidies to encourage development.

The economists who argue that Australia should open up our manufacturing industry to unfair competition from Korea or China via ‘free’ trade agreements, are looking at things upside down.

Rather than abolish what industry support policies we have left, we should be asking government to work with business and unions to come up with industry plans to win Australia our fair share of profitable, skilled manufacturing jobs.

If we don’t invest in manufacturing now, after the mining boom is over, we’ll find it is Australia which has become the world’s cheap tourist destination, and not much more.

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    • Brad of Bentleigh says:

      05:26am | 19/11/10

      Wow, you’re a genius! The “mining boom” is the cause of the AU dollar rise eh? Those evil miners killing us slowly you say… Apart from Australia being a “commodity based currency” (and so linked to commodity prices in general) let’s look at the real reasons the AU dollar is comparatively strong against the green back…
      1) RBA way too bullish in the economic outlook and, as usual, raising rates too high, too fast.
      2) Those knuckle-heads in the US (Obama administration) printing money like it’s going out of style. US policy of debt reduction is to devalue their currency - oldest (and dumbest) trick in the book.
      1+2 = Arbitrage, or “carry trade”. Low interest US dollars, swapped to high return AU dollars = free money.

      You’re right that we need to retain some manufacturing in our economy, but wrong about pretty much everything else. I would have thought the National Secretary of the AMWU would have been a bit smarter than that. You do your members no good by misrepresenting the facts…

    • Satori says:

      07:44am | 19/11/10

      Actually, he is right about everything else.

      We need to manage the boom so that we get long-lasting benefits from it. We should not allow the high AUD to kill off just about every other sector. Nor should we allow the mining industry to run over everything else.

      The money we get from OUR resources should be used to make roads, hospitals and schools for a start. The profits ahouldn’t just go to shareholders in mining companies exploiting OUR resources for their gain.

      If we allow the mining game to dictate conditions in this country then in 20 years when the boom is over we’ll have nothing left but a few holes in the ground and high wages for people with no jobs.

    • Jim says:

      08:11am | 19/11/10

      They’re not OUR resources Satori…digging the minerals out of the ground is a high risk investment. What ordinary Australian is prepared to lay out billions of dollars that you may or may not see returned over a 10 year period?
      Mining companies take that risk, you don’t.
      I have a shovel in my shed…go your hardest.

    • The Badger says:

      08:43am | 19/11/10

      Fundamental problem jim.
      They are OUR resources in much the same way that the water flowing down the rivers and the sea lapping at our shores are OUR resources.

      The Australian people should be compensated for OUR resources and the money spent on infrastructure for the future.

      We need something better than dirty great big holes in the ground in our future.

    • marley says:

      09:02am | 19/11/10

      But we are compensated for the use of our resources.  Perhaps not enough, but we are compensated.

      What state governments choose to do with that compensation is another matter.

    • Richard says:

      09:23am | 19/11/10

      Well er, hate to burst your bubble guys, but according to the constitution and the law, they’re actually THE STATE’s resources, i.e. W.A’s, Qld’s, S.A’s, N.S.W’s etc.

      The Federal Government has no right to make a claim on them when the States already charge a price for them (royalties). Its not like these greedy miners just steal it out of the ground.

    • Satori says:

      11:21am | 19/11/10

      Richard

      They are our resources as we are constituents of a state

      As part of the Henry Tax Review the mining companies requested that the state royalty system be removed and in place a federal system created. The sticking point came when the government reduced the threshold at which it would be levied.

      Mining companies don’t make the resources. Every other company in the world pays a price for their inputs. Paying a royalty tax is no different. The companies are using a non-renewable resource and not paying a correct amount for that when compared to the profits they are earning on those amounts.

      If we don’t get the right price for our pound of flesh we’ll realise too late that we have lost a major opportunity.

    • The Badger says:

      11:42am | 19/11/10

      Sartori
      You are probably wasting your breath (or typing)
      People like jim and richard are die hard conservatives.
      If it wasn’t a conservative idea, their position is to oppose it.
      Makes no difference if it is a good idea or not.
      It’s indicative of the Tony Abbott oppose everything and just say NO.

    • Richard says:

      01:37pm | 19/11/10

      Before the election Badger, there was this online questionnaire-type app on news.com.au or the australian website or something or other, that asked you a whole bunch of questions and then ranked you by your answers on a graph that had left-wing/right-wing on the x-axis and statist/libertarian on the y-axis. I stumbled across this poll and answered it as honestly and truthfully as I could.

      Do you know what my result was? According to the answers that I truthfully supplied with no prior knowledge of what the result would be, I was classified as a “left-wing libertarian”, which in hindsight I think is congruent with what my own self-perception has always been.

      I am not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination, my thinking on a range of issues is unorthodox and unconventional, and certainly not conservative. However since the sub-prime melt-down and the credit crunch and the global financial crisis, and with a view to the looming hyper-inflationary melt-up, I have sought to educate myself about economics as thoroughly as possible.

      In all my research, the only economists who repeatedly and accurately were able to predict in advance the problems we’ve been experiencing since 2008, and compellingly diagnose the reasons why, have been notorious Austrian-school economists like Peter Schiff and Marc Faber.

      To me it doesn’t matter if these guys are right-wing or left-wing, conservative or liberal, all that matters is that they were right; and have continued to be right every step of the way. That’s why I listen to their views over the self-interested opinions of union hacks and government patsies: because they’ve earned it.

    • Ducks says:

      05:44pm | 19/11/10

      @ Satori
      1. The mining boom, while an inflationary factor is not the main cause of the high Aussie dollar, so it isn’t the mining boom running rampant over everything else.
      2. The states (who the resources belong to constitutionally), do receive royalties from the minerals removed.
      3. If you truly wish to claim some of the benefits of what you claim are “YOUR” resources, can you please first re-imburse the WA and Queensland state governments for the billions of dollars they have spent on regional infrastructure in the mining areas. I realise at the outset the other states share of this may be billions more than they will receive back in tax. But, you after all, are the one who is so keen on sharing.

    • PaulB says:

      12:25pm | 20/11/10

      It is not our dollar rising so much as it is the (US) reserve currency sinking as the Americans print money Zimbabwe style to try and inflate away their unrepayable debt.

    • Scot says:

      02:05pm | 20/11/10

      The next major industry in Australia to fail will be the car industry. Australia will no longer be able to be cost effective in the manufacture of vehicles for internal use and export. The Giillard-Swan Labor Government are killing our major industies along with small business. The Unions are already destroying large infrastructure projects with their bully tactics and corruption. We are going back to the abd old days of 30 years ago.

    • Scot says:

      02:09pm | 20/11/10

      Australia cannot afford to manufacture solar panels. The new work choices is too much risk for manufacturers. We do not have the skills sets or the manufacturing investment to do this. We are becoming a third world country thanks to our labour costs and laws. We cannot even manufacture for export?

    • Doug Gold says:

      05:38am | 19/11/10

      All too true ,we are riding the mineral wealth,always have from the Vic goldrush to the present day,how much longer I know not, but when it ends we will feel it in the most socially catastrophic way.

    • cinders says:

      09:46am | 19/11/10

      I agree with Doug. How come in this boom there are less apprenticeships then ever? We called ourselves the lucky country for ages. Not so lucky if you are chasing an apprencticeship or technical training. Young workers are now asked to pay for their own tickets- sometimes about $5000 worth before they even get a start. Meanwhile there are bosses taking home 6-10million dollars. Where do we find any rules on hiring apprenctices? In collective agreements negotiated by union delegates not in AWAs, handshake deals or laws. Lets make solar panels, wind turbines, vehicles, tellys, clothes, i-phones, books etc here and give a this generation and the next a start in the workforce.

    • Jim says:

      06:09am | 19/11/10

      You union boys just don’t get it, do you. The high AUD was just the straw that broke the camels back…the unions have got their workers on 8-hour days, paid lunch breaks, breaks in the morning and afternoon, extra leave, unlimited sick leave in some cases, carers leave, penalty rates, top pay rates, and many other perks that cost the business. You down tools on a whim - like when a union worked leaves a 2” hole in a floor uncovered; all of a sudden it’s the companies fault for not providing adequate training…let’s have a day off to bleat about it! You rort overtime. You rip off your members. And you have gone from something that was vital in industrial reform to simply a stepping stone into the ALP.
      The Theiss events yesterday are a prime example of what I’m talking about. If the unions make it their mission to get as much as they can, doing as little as possible, why can’t a company make it their mission to nip any union action in the bud?

    • Satori says:

      07:47am | 19/11/10

      Yeah lets get everyone working 18 hours a day for minimum wage in sweatshops just so it can make some company’s profits bigger.

      Moron

    • The Badger says:

      09:35am | 19/11/10

      Satori
      We should also have the children going down into the mines.
      They can be the canaries so Forrest and Palmer can stuff their pockets even more.

      jim is like a broken record that gets stuck in a particular place and repeats the same lines over and over.

      Some sort of remedial therapy is on order.

    • fairsfair says:

      10:37am | 19/11/10

      Jim, as you actually work in the industry and are exposed to it on the daily, I am inclined to believe you. Living in a region of this country that relies on the Mining Sector for basic survival I agree.

      I earn $40k a year to work 40hours a week in a job that I only have becuase I spend 5 years an uni and continue to study part time to complete my masters. My brother is a selfish twit who has no qualifications (has started about five apprenticeships) but because dad paid for his HR license he is on $159k to sit on his ever increasing *ss and drive. He works 2/3 of the year only. He is a member of the union because his working conditions are so tough and he needs “someone on his side” apparently…

      It can’t really go on much longer - I think there is still a fair bit of stuff left in the ground, but how much longer can we afford to dig for it? The working conditions place such a strain on the smaller companies it creates this big business situation that we all hate so much (banks anyone?). Unions are shooting themselves in the foot bigtime.

    • Satori says:

      11:26am | 19/11/10

      and Badger they better not ask for health insurance or workplace safety or any of that

      Surely we can have endless miles of shanty towns for these people to live in. Australia can be proud of big business profits.

    • Jim says:

      11:33am | 19/11/10

      @Weasel…err, Badger - even a broken record is working on some level, unlike your Utopian dream where you get to lay back and live off the hard work done by others…

      @fairsfair - it’s a problem that’s been around since the mining wages climbed almost exponentially to ‘normal’ wages. As pays get higher, productivity drops, and they all bitch about how much so and so’s getting. To counter that now you have people stepping into the industry on the same wages as the guys that have clocked up 20 years and have all the skills. But there’s only one thing that can happen there - the young fellas don’t think they need to work hard, and the older fellas give up.
      As for resources, for sure they’re running out. It takes the Earth 3 million years to form the coal we use in a year - the easy-to-dig sites are being depleted and miners are forced into higher cost mining methods and marginal ore bodies. In metals, feed grades are getting lower and lower, but there are some huge low-grade ore bodies around. Problem there is the lower the grade the higher the throughput required, so mine life is shortened.
      Mining will not die in this country in the next couple hundred years, but what will happen is down-sizing and consolidation (i.e. Super Pit in Kal) and very selective employment. Workchoices or any variant aside…if there are 200 people chasing a dozen jobs, those with strong union affiliations will not be considered.

    • Ben81 says:

      11:54am | 19/11/10

      I read and re-read Jim’s post and can’t see where he says that children should be sent down mines or that people should be working 18 hours a day for minimum wage in sweatshops.

      Jim posted examples of the reality of endless demands that are making it more and more expensive to employ people, and was responded to with wild extremes and exaggeration. 
      Maybe he’s just saying that the unions should show a little restraint for once and that it’s not always appropriate or beneficial to workers in general for the unions to keep beating the same militant drum, and refusing to believe that this has anything at all to do with their jobs going overseas.  If they refuse to even let that thought enter their heads for purely ideological reasons are they really acting in the best interests of workers?

    • Jim says:

      01:56pm | 19/11/10

      I’ve been saying that for months Ben81…unfortunately that draws reflex responses from the likes of Badger and co. who get so rabid at times it’d be easy to think they are employed by the Labor Machine simply to troll these forums.

      If a post by anyone does not fall into the Labor/Union/Greens Big Book of Things then they go into apoplexy and spew forth their rhetoric.

      Sad really.

      Watch Weasel (well, a Badger IS a type of Weasel) cut and paste this post and change some words around. I’m glad he thinks he is funny.

    • mr mustela says:

      03:10pm | 19/11/10

      y’all have to understand sometin.
      I’m a country boy bred and raised.
      I never had me much lernin and stuff
      but i nose a bad idea when i hearz won.

      these fellas diggin up all that durt are the salt of the erth
      They giv us jerbs soes we can ave a few points down the pub
      no way we should stop em, no way.

      Ths NBn stuff stinks 2. my cows don’t need this fiber stuff. they get all they need right hear - when theyz grass a bout

      I luv the bush - but I really hate these gawdawful flies that thank mi nose is a secret pasage to somewear.

    • Jim says:

      03:51pm | 19/11/10

      Very poor attempt at humour there Badger old mate…why the mustela psuedonym??

    • Steve says:

      04:30am | 21/11/10

      I have to agree with Jim and have first hand experience.

      The Australian worker is the most uncompetitive that I know of. Years ago my Australian company was a force to be reckoned with worldwide for quality and price. But things changed. Wages went up, hours went down. The attitude changed from love of what they do to turning up to get a paycheck. Instead of people turning up on time and putting in that extra effort if we had a client in a panic it all turned into “it’s not my problem”.

      I am afraid that the Aussie workforce is more or less a bunch of bludgers now when you compare them worldwide. Chinese and Indians work much harder for much less. The USA workers are faster, work longer hours and get paid less to do exceptional work. To make it worse, Aussies are all shipping the money and work to China so they have to do even less. This is starting to backfire and the results of it will soon be very evident. The left-wing government, unions, etc are doing a good job at hiding just how bad the situation is right now, but soon there will be enough people screaming with no job and no prospects that the house of cards will tumble into a heap. Then Australia can learn how to work again - an honest days work for an honest days pay. Turning up late, taking days off and running roughshot over management will soon turn around and the current bunch of wingers will realize just how damn easy they had it.

    • The Badger says:

      11:42am | 21/11/10

      Did all you Australian workers out there see what Steve thinks of your work ethic?
      “the Aussie workforce is more or less a bunch of bludgers”

      aussie worker, do you thing you are a bludger?

      Do you think you do a fair days work for a fair days pay?

    • Steve says:

      08:21am | 22/11/10

      Badger needs to realize that no worker considers himself a bludger. The culture of workers changes and what was considered easy 20 years ago is now considered slave labour, salt mines stuff. People could have their hours cut to 20 a week and still consider they are working too long and hard because that is what they adjust to. Unfortunately in Australia the worker thinks he is working harder and longer hours when he has never had it so good. So if you ask the Aussie worker if he is a hard worker, of course he will say yes. If you ask the Chinese worker the same question he will also say yes. But the big difference between the Aussies and Chinese is that the Chinaman really is working twice as hard, which is normal for him, and he is getting paid around $300 a month. Aussies cant compete there.

      It used to be the other way around. Aussies wanted to show they were the best. They wanted to work hard and be proud of it. The Aussie worker was tough, resourceful, self driven and frowned on people taking sickies, compo, handouts, etc. Aussie workers used to consider anyone in a union just lazy and looking for a cop out. Those workers built Australia from practically nothing.

      Our current bunch of over educated workers don’t know how to work. They never suffered the way the previous generation did so dont know the value of a good solid job where they really do good, which also means making money, for the company. The attitude of the employer and management being out there to rip them off is completely unjustified. Hell, I remember how my staff would look at me with eyes of pure scorn if I would not cough up a big Christmas bonus, even when none of them had made a cent that year. Turning up for work does not mean you are making money and deserve that pay cheque - you need to actually be productive.

    • The Badger says:

      10:32am | 22/11/10

      Did all you Australian workers out there see what Steve thinks of your work ethic?
      “the Aussie workforce is more or less a bunch of bludgers”

      aussie worker, do you thing you are a bludger?

      Do you think you do a fair days work for a fair days pay?

    • PT says:

      06:47am | 19/11/10

      “The cause of the high dollar is Australia’s mining boom.”

      No it’s not. It’s due to the US Federal Reserve devaluing the US$. Our aussie dollar is collateral damage.

    • Macca says:

      06:53am | 19/11/10

      Manufacturing in Australia has been held to ransom by the union movement for the past 20 years. Australia does not have the technical expertise or innovation to compete with international manufacturers and the rates of pay for our tradesmen are far too high (in manufacturing atleast, not saying my plumber is overpaid, he does a crap job and I’m glad he’s there) for the final product that they produce.

      I’m just speaking off the cuff right now, but I reckon that countries with great manufacturing (Japan, Korea, Germany) don’t have the union influences (interferences?) that Australia, The US and the UK have

    • T.Chong says:

      07:51am | 19/11/10

      Macca- you , of course are entitled to a 38hr week,award wage, super, annual leave, a sfe working enviroment, consultation about conditions, protection of employment etc , but others arent ?
      I would like to see all anti unionists forgo everything but the most basic wage,( as is your right)  and you and your employer can bargain to just how little you will work for.
      Just dont try to bring eveyone else down with you.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      08:00am | 19/11/10

      Japan, South Korea, Germany also have tariff barriers and low defence expenditures with help. Also Japan and Germany do have union influences but they tend to collaborative rather than adversarial relationships with business

    • Jim says:

      08:08am | 19/11/10

      Spot on Macca. Australia used to have such a diverse set of major industries…almost every town had industry. The town I grew up in for example; 9000 people, 4 big steelworks and fabrication businesses (gone), rail hub and loco (downsized from >3000 employees to less than 20), softdrink/cordial factory which was bigger than Schweppes in its day (gone), abbottoirs (gone), wool dressing factory (gone). Everythying was going swimmingly up till the late 70’s when union thugs started spreading their poison outside of major cities. In no time, all of these businesses folded as they simply were not viable any more. Massive unemployment ensued…and the flow on effects on the retail sector in town were just as savage. It was only the hint of a large mine opening up nearby - which didn’t eventuate till 94 - that kept the town on the map.
      The unions will never, ever see it as their fault though…as Satori’s comments show.

    • T.Chong says:

      09:04am | 19/11/10

      Jimmy - surprisingly ( to you) the majority of australians dont believe in working for a company , at any price to them, as worth it.
      Most of us dont believe that a persons sense of worth comes purely from working .
      Even the Libs are saying serfchoices was poison, thats why it is no longer policy ( although any and everything Abbott says is suspect,  by his own admission.)
        No doubt your POV is very much aproved of by your line managers, and with that type of attitude will take you far, until the next recession, then you may be laid off , but for you that will be no problem, as long it is for the good of the companys bottom line.
      You good little corporate ctizen.

    • Jim says:

      11:23am | 19/11/10

      I’m not sure what that has to do with my piece Chongy, but I’d like to know where this ‘majority’ you speak of lives? Ever since man learned to sharpen things he’s had to trade or barter for something he wants or needs. That’s evolved over the last 10,000 years into ‘having to work’!! I know that flies in the face of socialism 101 but it’s a fact of life.

      And I have indeed been on the wrong end of the redundancy stick, twice actually. It’s a risk you take going into mining, one I accepted because the rewards are worth it. I tend to see my employment as a priviledge, not a right..and so, knowing the risks, I put myself through uni to get a couple of degrees. That way I knew that if I had to move on I’d have no trouble stepping into another mine.

      The place I work at now has 100 years of union thuggery behind it. The whole region is entrenched. If by any chance a site closed here then these guys would have zero chance of being picked up anywhere else…what the unions do is paramount to shitting in their own beds.

      I’d be OK though…I’ve worked hard for what I have and I’ve never relied on a false sense of security offered by a corrupt organisation.

    • DVolition says:

      09:14am | 19/11/10

      It’s an easy throwaway line to say that it was “Union thugs” who closed down the businesses in your home town but I suspect it was really more due to corporate interests deciding to protect profit margins by relocating overseas due to the reduced cost of doing business with corrupt governments. Of course a large part of these reduced costs include little or no regard for health and safety standards or a decent living wage. If protecting these things is a crime then we Unionists are guilty as charged.

      As for digging minerals out of the ground being a ‘high risk’ investment, modern geo-technical surveying techniques give a pretty fair indication of likely successes so I’m not sure how risky it really is for well resourced corporations. And as to who ‘owns’ the mineral wealth – well, all I can suggest is that as long as you don’t look too far back in history, say beyond approx 200 years then you can be pretty comfortable in your assessment. Of course the current legal reality is that the resources do belong to the Commonwealth and mining companies need to pay in order to access them. The questions Dave Oliver rightly asks are: ‘How much?’ and ‘What do we do with that money?’ Investing in our manufacturing industry makes sense and is good long term thinking.

      It’s the difference between our kids being skilled workers or Twiggy Forrest’s pool cleaners…

    • DVolition says:

      09:24am | 19/11/10

      PS:  Re The Theiss debacle - Interesting that the workers are receiving full pay despite the stop work and the Project Director and HR Manager have been stood down pending an investigation. Also the company’s operations chief executive Nev Power has described the use of ASI as “totally inappropriate and contrary to Thiess’ business practice”.

      Blown. Out. Of. The. Water.

    • Richard says:

      10:23am | 19/11/10

      Dave has correctly identified a real problem with our economy, the death of our manufacturing sector. But his ideology prevents him from offering any real solutions and he just degenerates into glib, ill-informed snipes against the mining boom and against calls for fiscal responsibility.

      For starters, you can’t just plainly state that “The cause of the high dollar is Australia’s mining boom” and think that just because you gave that single sentence a separate paragraph all to itself that most people will buy it. Currency markets are a complex phenomenon, and even world renowned experts can be wrong (like for example at the start this year when George Soros bet on the Euro dropping to parity with the USD).

      The factors driving our dollar higher are manifold and complex. On the one hand, our currency is a ‘commodity currency’, which means that it closely tracks with commodity prices (which are currently at or close to all-time highs i.e. gold). This situation might prompt us to speculate that an unintended side-effect of the government’s proposed mining tax might be to drive up commodity prices even further, thus sending our dollar even higher yet again.

      Another factor at play is the carry trade whereby investors seek to profit from the difference between our interest rates and Japanese or US or UK interest rates (eg. borrow yen at 0.1% rates, convert them into AUD and reap the interest from 4.75% rates). Big institutional players are into this carry trade, which generates huge demand for our dollar which by the law of supply and demand causes the currency to rise. Again we can see that if the government is unwise enough to keep up its deficit spending, then that is going to cause inflation which will cause interest rates to rise even further, making the carry trade even more attractive and making our $ go higher still.

      But in the big scheme of things, you do realise there is a currency war being waged right now don’t you? Every major economy is engaged in a desperate attempt to devalue their currency and the Aussie dollar has been hung out to dry. But anyway, a strong dollar is a good thing, because it protects us from inflation. Rather be in Australia’s position with a strong currency than in America’s or Europe’s with a doomed currency.

      Btw, when you say, “The real economic debate in Australia should not be over our minuscule level of national debt” you are comparing our debt to that of the doomed, toxic debt-riddled economies of USA/UK/PIIGS etc. That’s like breaking your leg and saying “Oh we shouldn’t go to see a Dr. about this, look at Uncle Sam and Tommy Atkins et al, they all have leprosy so we’re fine”. Meanwhile, our real competitors, China, Korea, Vietnam et al are in rude health with budget surpluses and trillions of dollars stored away in foreign reserves. I don’t buy this argument that just because other Country’s debt problems are worse than ours doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t try to address our own, especially when the rising super-power in our region (and in fact the world) has no debt whatsoever. Shouldn’t we be aiming to be as strong as China instead of just congratulating ourselves because we’re not as weak as America?

    • St. Michael says:

      11:33am | 19/11/10

      ...You’re basically suggesting that we have to compare apples with apples as economies go, and then in the same breath suggest that we should aim to be as strong as China economically?

      With maybe one hundredth of the population and therefore manufacturing capacity?

    • Richard says:

      12:05pm | 19/11/10

      Obviously St. Mick, everything is relative. The US has allowed its manufacturing sector to die as well, mainly due to unsustainable union demanded entitlements weighing it down. My advice would be to do like Japan did during the Meiji restoration, send delegates around to successful manufacturing countries like Germany, Japan, China, Korea et al and learn from them, copy them, emulate them.

      When an obese patient with diabetes and heart disease goes to see the Doctor and the Doctor says “you need to lose weight and get leaner. You must go on a diet and eat only 2000 calories per day and you must exercise for 90 minutes each day”, the patient doesn’t like what he hears, and he doesn’t follow the advice, but that doesn’t stop it from being the correct advice.

      Likewise, when brilliant economists like Peter Schiff say, “the only way to rebuild our manufacturing sector is to make it lean and competitive again. We need to reduce government regulation, abolish minimum wage laws and do away with union interference in the work force”, the fat bloated unions and corpulent public sector doesn’t like it, and they will fight tooth and nail against it, but that doesn’t stop it from being the right advice.

      Just remember, Private Enterprise is the only thing that produces wealth. Private Enterprise is the only thing that can re-invigorate our manufacturing sector. Union and government interference in the private sector only hinders productivity, entrenches inefficiency and inhibits competitiveness.

    • Satori says:

      12:41pm | 19/11/10

      You say that the mining boom hasn’t had an effect on our currency yet you say the AUD is a commodities currency. Seems to contradict, no?

      So if we were to abolish minimum wages so that we can compete what do you think that will happen to our living standards?

      Many companies making big profits off the backs of lowly paid workers.

      Germany seems to do very well having a manufacturing sector and high wages. They do it intelligently. People are happy to pay $100k for a BMW or Mercedes because we perceive it as being quality. Australia shouldfollow in that path if we want a manufacturing sector. But not in cars, we’ll never be able to convince the world to pay $100k for our cars.

      Maybe we can create environmental solutions and export them for a mint…...

    • Dave-o says:

      12:58pm | 19/11/10

      @ Richard, Yeah okay the entire problem in the US is high wages. Even though since 2008 the UAW have agreed to slashing wages in half and are know being asked for decade long wage freezes. Of course the US economy is now reaping the rewards of this ultra low wages…... oh wait no, the economy is still going backwards. Any other bright ideas Professor?

    • St. Michael says:

      01:49pm | 19/11/10

      Dave-o, just because one union volunteers to cut its wages in half doesn’t mean the entire economy is affected by it.  More to the point, for the US the damage has already been done: the Rust Belt is (or was) totally unionized.

      But neither do I think the libertarian free market is a solution either, because it’s at its most fundamental level immoral, and given the opportunity people—employers and employees alike—will overwhelmingly choose to do the legal thing, not the moral thing if money’s involved.

      You have to have a balance.  Abolishing the minimum wage creates a race to the bottom on wages: it’s a myth that essential services such as cleaning provide the equality of bargaining power which the theoretical libertarian free market model assumes, simply because for theoretically unskilled work there will always be someone more desperate than you who will do it for less; there are always more employees than employers, and always will be.

      The ideal that “everyone has an equal chance to better themselves” is as idealistic as the communist delusion.  They are simply different ends of the same continuum.  Where people must draw the line is where their morals fit along that continuum: it may be economically “right” for a cleaning employer to pay his adult staff $5.00 per hour for 12 hour days—it may even be superb for the employer because it allows him to “employ” more people at that $5.00 rate, and therefore is good for the country in that unemployment rates go down, the employer’s profits go up and he’s able to spend those profits back into the wider economy, but is that a moral choice that we’re willing to live with?

      If so, then almost by definition you can have no compunctions about blood diamonds or children down mines or any of the industrial practices that we point at in other countries and call impositions on human rights, because we are committing those industrial “sins” for themselves.

      The libertarian free market movement believes the idea of the employee is to help the employer compete.  If so, then the employer has no right to complain about staff turnover or disloyal employees, because under that model G.K. Chesterton’s comeback is apt: an employee owes his employer *nothing* but performance.  Certainly not a given attitude, set of beliefs, or any loyalty whatsoever.

      It’s a continuum, not a switch.

    • Tom says:

      03:29am | 20/11/10

      Just to add to your point about the currency, Richard, is that about 95% of the trade in the dollar is speculative, and nothing to do with actual exchange of goods. Hence, to say that the mining boom is responsible for the high dollar is just plain wrong - it contributes a little bit, but by far the biggest factor is the US’s quantitative easing (printing money in layman’s terms) programs. You will also notice the AUD hasn’t moved that much against other currencies as compared to the USD

    • Dave-o says:

      11:12am | 19/11/10

      The WTO and and free trade think tanks seem content to allow all national economics to sink into specialisation. Which is great for free traders and what not but ignores the glaringly obvious, that a resilient economy is built on diversification and not budget surpluses. But as long as our major political parties subscribe to the magic pudding economic policy we’ll chug merrily along until we run out of resources/land/developing markets.

    • R Luke says:

      11:14am | 19/11/10

      Spot on Dave there has also been many other articles published recently across our nation’s newspapers from economists that also support your comments. The concept of fair trade not free trade has been around for some time. Alas our country’s power brokers Big business and current gov policy seem to be for the benefit of the here and now with no foresight for the future, I wish you well in your endeavors to turn this around.

    • St. Michael says:

      01:51pm | 19/11/10

      Problem being that “fair” trade = tariffs on imports.  Which is what Great Depressions are made of.  Has very little to do with the stock market crashing as such, more like the Smoot-Hadley Tariff Act which killed international trade almost overnight.

    • ZSRenn says:

      12:00pm | 19/11/10

      I heard an estimate once that there is enough coal in our soil to last 5000 years. I can’t see it ending anytime soon. The reason manufacturing is moving off shore is pure and simple.

      Cost of Labor!

      The unions have made it impossible to maintain competitiveness with increased wages and conditions. Now I know some idiot is going to come on and say I support us all going back to the draconian days of sweat shops and poor working conditions. This is not what I profess at all. I am just saying enough is enough.

      Unions need to realize that for every wage rise they get they lose somebody a job. We no longer exist in a micro economic bubble. Even our meat is sent overseas for processing because meat workers pushed to hard for higher wages until they made themselves almost extinct.

      Join that with the pay rise we have just received compared to the rest of the world through the increase in the value of our dollar with our already high wages we just overpriced our labor as we had nowhere to move. We have a whole heap of hurt coming and need strong government to act to protect us. 

      Oh wait Foolia and the unions are in power.

      Oh well! Been nice knowing you Australia!

    • loxy says:

      01:00pm | 19/11/10

      You talk about industry becoming less competitive, however the problem is that it has never been competitive. What we really need to address in this country if you want to save jobs is the exorbitant prices Aussie have to pay for everything. I have been to the US several times, both with a high Aussie dollar and a very low one and either way it was infuriating to see that we are paying 50% or more for absolutely everything, including Australian owned and made products like surf gear. I know that we have higher wages and GST but even those do not justify the prices we pay.

      If I can buy an item for 50% less (including postage in the US) then so can the retailers here. There is just no justification for the exhorbitant mark-up’s. Most products are sourced from the same places whether your in the US or Oz and yet we pay double or more. Stop the greed and the 300% mark-ups and there will be no problems with being competitive.

    • Lisa H. says:

      07:24pm | 19/11/10

      These kinds of comments are infuriating, partly because I also share your frustration, loxy.
      Retailers in Australia aren’t inherently more ‘greedy’ than any other person on the planet. High costs here are directly associated with high (relatively unproductive) labour costs, high rents and high taxes. Isn’t it obvious?
      It’s crazy hearing a unionist moaning about the high Australian dollar when the cost of manufacturing in this country is directly related to the same cost pressures of relatively unproducive labour and our general high-cost environment.
      Unionists would have it that greed is associated only with employers, manufacturers, those with economic responsibilities beyond their own families.
      However, greed is the common factor that motivates every single worker to buy the cheap and well made goods from Korea, China etc.
      It’s what governments rely on when they spend our money on vote-buying welfare programs like the pink batt giveaway.
      In many instances, what unionists class as (other people’s) greed is simply common sense, or even a survival instinct.
      It is easy, and oh so ignorant, to conclude that every employer is offensively rich and should give much more to those who don’t shoulder the business costs and risks.

    • r says:

      11:32am | 20/11/10

      Instead of telling everyone else what they should be doing to improve Australia’s manufacturing industry.  The union should be informing the rest of Australia how they intend to help.  I remember in university reading study showing that most start-up businesses are making a loss for the first 2 to 3 years before they make a profit.  Also, while working as a labourer in a medium to small manufacturing company during the holidays. I noticed the managers running around like headless chickens trying to fulfil orders with the constant problems that orized.  I watched one strong Union members do nothing because his contract was for a certern job in the company.  I was told by other workers that job was sesonal only working 6 month of the year but he would not do anything else to help the company eventhough they had large orders that needed to be filled.

      Now the managers were not above reproach.  In fact that a lot of criticism on how they ran the company, too much to write down now.  But my point is this the unions need to move past the ‘i will only do what is in my contract and no more’ to a ‘let’s try and build a successful company.’

    • James Hunter says:

      01:10pm | 19/11/10

      we could end up like naru an empty hole in the ground and a corupt government.
      lets face it when the capitalists ,ie the big business wallahs run out of dirt to sell they will go some place else and what will be left behind ? Nothing unless we get the mining tax in and take some of the cream of the nations assets for ourselves.

    • ZSRenn says:

      02:17pm | 19/11/10

      Ye Yes

      Very good!

      Lets make our already expensive products more expensive.

      I think this is sound economic policy

      NOT!

    • mark says:

      01:18pm | 20/11/10

      Hey Dave Oliver, I live in Tasmania and Caterpillar has been advertising down here for workers at their Burnie factory.

      Are you telling porkies about where those jobs in Melbourne went?

    • Ray says:

      07:10pm | 19/12/10

      I’m sorry! Its just impossible to take anything that Dave Oliver says seriously.  This is the union boss that openly had a voodoo doll of one of the female amwu organisers.  This man has no idea how to treat his own workforce. His is a terrible union full of bullies and thugs.  Me thinks he is trying to apportion blame for the amwus shrinking membership, when he should be looking in the mirror if he wants to find the real cause of membership decline.

 

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