You won’t believe this. Seriously, you simply will not believe this. Or as they say on the mean streets of Quito and Guayaquil, Ecuador, “no creerlo”.

When a llama sneezes, I'll make sure the world knows! Image done at short notice by the awesome: Vincent Vergara.

Back in 1925, as Ecuador basked in a Liberal regime allowing unprecedented press and religious freedom, a military revolution known as the “Julian Revolution” swept all that autonomy away. I shit you not. It was actually called the Julian Revolution.

This, you’d have to say, doesn’t bode well for Julian Assange, who still hopes to seek asylum in Ecuador. Indeed, press freedoms aren’t much better there today. The small South American republic sits in 104th spot in the press freedom index, and there have been recent government-enforced shutdowns in the broadcast media.

That’s hardly the sort of climate in which the world’s most self-publicising press freedom crusader would feel confident setting up shop.

There are other potential pitfalls for Mr Assange. As the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office has warned its nationals, sexual assault is “a persistent problem” in Ecuador.

But let’s not paint too grim a picture of one of the most delightful nations of the eastern equatorial region of South America.

Ecuador is rightly famed for its wonderfully diverse landscape, the well-preserved 17th century colonial architecture in the capital Quito, and the tennis player Andres Gomez, who finished runner-up to Andre Agassi in the 1990 French Open final.

Ecuador also administers the Galapagos Islands, the charming archipelago where Charles Darwin formed his renowned theory on how reptiles evolved into humans who run websites.

This guy's almost there, though his work ethic is a little over the top

Here’s another interesting Ecuador fact. The Volcano Mount Chimborazo is the furthest point from the centre of the earth. That’s because the earth is not a perfect sphere and has an equatorial bulge. So Chimborazo is actually further than Mt Everest from the Wikileaks bunker deep in a cavern in the core of planet earth.

Llamaleaks. Image: David Torres Costales @DavoTC

That’s going to make quite the commute for Assange. On the positive side, Panama hats are made in Ecuador, not Panama. Just as Cuban cigars are made in the Dominican republic and Valencia oranges come from Shepparton. And Assange would look good in a Panama. Everyone looks good in a Panama.

More good news. Like America, Ecuador also has incredibly lax banking laws, where bankers can do pretty much anything they like without fear of repercussion. In Ecuador, the struggling Wikileaks bottom line may yet get back in the black.

So on balance, a little good, a little bad, but probably more good than bad. Ecuador will do Assange nicely. Let the glorious Julian Revolution sweep Ecuador once more!

Twitter: @antsharwood
Research by awesome Punch intern Cassie Byrnes: @ccbyrnes11

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    • M says:

      12:43pm | 21/06/12

      Viva la revoluzion

    • Rick with a silent P says:

      02:45pm | 21/06/12

      Hey Speedy Conzalis is in love with my sister….Julians in love with everybody’s sister

    • John says:

      03:02pm | 21/06/12

      Mr Assange needs to be arrested for believing in the official 9/11 story.  The guy is fraud, his so called wiki leaks are basically filtered to protect certain regimes and nations, while attacking others. I suspect it’s a CIA front, I think he was recruited by an intelligence agency to play this part of a Emmanuel Goldstein type character to some how the control tide of truth by the awaking mass’s. To herd to waking mass’s to his cult, and then lead them off the cliff. There are so many of these personality’s on internet and some have their own TV shows.

    • M says:

      04:41pm | 21/06/12

      The CIA want’s to kill him, how is wikileaks a front?

    • N. says:

      05:18pm | 21/06/12

      If the CIA wanted to kill him he’d be dead.
      Your a bigger wanker than I thought M

    • Ben says:

      06:39pm | 21/06/12

      John.. I assume your joking, not mentality deficient???

    • John says:

      06:51pm | 21/06/12

      M says:

      He is CIA, do you think this idiot would have front page news if he had the power to topple government, bankers and media barons? What effect has wiki leaks had on the world? Nothing! The US military attacked civilians? What else is new? Everyone knows the US military is nothing but heap of LOW IQ trigger happy army that hits more civilians then their so called fabricated fictional enemy’s.

    • John says:

      07:10pm | 21/06/12

      Ben, it’s no my fault that you got brainwashed by this cult leader, even i have been brainwashed by certain internet cult leaders, but I’m much more aware, more enlighten of what is going on around me. There is a huge game being played, you need to constant decode certain people, movements to find out their true intentions to keep up with the game.

      What ever the media say’s, just take it as lie, they all liars until proven true, politicians are liars until proven true, bankers are fraudsters until proven not to be. US military reporting is propaganda until proven true.

    • Little Joe says:

      07:12pm | 21/06/12

      Maybe he can set up another Australian Utopian Settlement like William Lane.

    • Ben says:

      08:04pm | 21/06/12

      John wow I can take it that you were not joking and seriously believe you conspiracy drivel. I wasn’t really making a statement about Julian as I don’t really have a strong opinion either way. I was more rearing to your bizarre conspiracy. you believe (with no proof that 9/11 was an inside job - you probably even buy into the idea that a missile hit the towers at the exact same time). Your admission that you have been brain washed buy certain leaders (can I assume more than once) and you are now enlightened to the fact that the whole would is on giant conspiracy doesn’t really speak to your ability to actually objectively look at anything.  I am going to go out on a limb and suggest there is no evidence anyone could provide to you that you are an A grade nut job. Going though life “enlightened” to the fact that everyone is out to get you must be interesting - you could always wear a tin foil hat to make sure the CIA (using alien technology, no doubt) doesn’t penetrate your mind and wipe your memory before you enlighten the whole world and free them from your there blissful stupidity to rise up against the CIA (or whoever controls this crazy world).

    • Patrick says:

      02:17pm | 22/06/12

      I have never seen or heard a response to the question “If the ability for the US to extradite from the UK is the same as it is from Sweden, as the media have said, and the US did not try to extradite him from England, why would we assume they will try from Sweden?”  My understanding is that the United Kingdom and Sweden are both parties to the EC-US Mutual legal assistance and extradition Agreement.
      It’s about time someone answered this question.

    • Dr. Kevin Davies OAM says:

      12:44pm | 21/06/12

      You made your intern do the research? hahahahaha

    • M says:

      12:54pm | 21/06/12

      Apparently this is what passes for investigative journalism these days.

    • jk says:

      12:55pm | 21/06/12

      I thought it was written by the intern as well, but no. Deputy editor apparently.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      01:59pm | 21/06/12

      I thought it was light and vaguely amusing without the constant left-wing bleat-bleat-bleat of Ms Shepherd’s endless whining, for example.

    • Miles Heffernan says:

      02:57pm | 21/06/12

      M, jk and Tony of Poorakistan,

      You know that The Punch is Opinion right? Specifically it is not journalism but quality writers, put their efforts to give us thought provoking material. Some soft, some hard, some controversial. Some sporting. Some left. Some right.

      Some with the assistance of an intern (meaning someone new and learning).

      Are you guys suffering Anonymous Armchair Sports Stars Syndrome (AASSS)?  Or have you some creative work that we may critique and mock, especially if you have a trainee and you write for a diverse audience?

    • Just Sayin' says:

      04:08pm | 21/06/12

      I missed the “Investigative Journalism” heading at the top of the page.

      I thought it said “Australia’s best conversation”. While that claim may be a little presumptuous, it does provide some context.

    • M says:

      04:17pm | 21/06/12

      I’ve got plenty of creative column ideas, but somehow I don’t think they’d gain traction with the punch editiors.

      The comments section would be a riot though.

    • Push the Button says:

      09:58pm | 21/06/12

      People like Tony of Poorakistan and M despise the left-leaning Punch writers so much they are here everyday reading and obsessively commenting.

      It’s like the lefties who obsessively listen to Alan Jones or read Andrew Bolt. Then complain endlessly.

      Meanwhile, normal people avoid things they don’t like. It’s not like you are compelled to compulsively read The Punch.

      Unless, of course, these left-leaning writers can read you so well, and know how to push your buttons so well, that they can make you come back every day and post. The frequency and tone of some posters demonstrates they fervently read then comment over and over again in some kind of Pavlovian response.

      The hilarity in all this is that they are actually supporting the propagation of these “left-leaning” views by visiting and commenting so much ...

    • David says:

      07:04am | 22/06/12

      Wikipedia journalism.

    • sam A says:

      12:46pm | 21/06/12

      well its a government that is looking at maybe giving him some support not like this Australian government along with the opposition who have did diddle squat for him

      what about the 500+ days of house arrest   without charge where is the comments on that!
      was he a flight risk did they not take his passport ?

    • Jimbo75 says:

      12:58pm | 21/06/12

      Sam,

      What support has Aassnge been denied by Australian consular services?

      As for his passport, surrendering it was one of the conditions of his bail but this has not stopped him walking into the Ecuadorian Embassy in London to claim political asylum.

      Perhaps you also need an intern to do some research for you.

    • NigelC says:

      01:17pm | 21/06/12

      Sorry, you wanted comments on his arrest? How about this: ‘Only 500 days! Well, that’s a good start.’

    • L. says:

      01:45pm | 21/06/12

      “What support has Aassnge been denied by Australian consular services?”

      Jimbo.. Try due process for starters. Gillard stated on TV that he has comitted a crime, before he was charged or had gone before a jury of his peers.

    • Rocksteady says:

      02:07pm | 21/06/12

      The only thing stopping him from walking into the Ecuadorian embassy is trying to catch a taxi in London traffic

    • Hamish says:

      04:09pm | 21/06/12

      Assange has only been under house arrest because he chose to appeal his extradition…He’s wanted for questioning which is why he hasn’t been charged. I’m not exactly sure what the government are supposed to do. Assange has been treated like anyone else would be which is entirely appropriate.

    • PhoenixGirl says:

      12:53pm | 21/06/12

      This is why you shouldn’t do drugs!

    • M says:

      01:30pm | 21/06/12

      Rubbish, this is why you should do more of them.

    • Macca says:

      12:54pm | 21/06/12

      Not sure how much input was had, but props to Cassie Byrnes whose random tid-bits perfectly complimented Sharwood’s regular midday Punch.

      As for Assange, I don’t really care anymore.

    • Miles Heffernan says:

      12:56pm | 21/06/12

      Only fitting on International Refugee Day that Jules sought asylum. Poor man, flanked with the army of QCs and international media, holed up in the waiting room, cloaked in immunity. Hopefully with a wide range of Panama hats to try on to get the right look for Bond Film Baddie.

      Refo Jules now has real kin-ship now with those guys in camps fleeing tyranny.

      Except of course for the consular support, rich backers, lawyers, lovely lodgings, no leaky boat, no tyrant, no persecution. Rather he is being asked to follow the law of the land.

      I will be burning a candle for Poor Jules. The Refo. I am playing the “fugees right now will the candle burns brightly.

      I demand openness and transparency unless it is for me. Little pigs - stand afoot on your hind legs

    • Kafir says:

      01:03pm | 21/06/12

      Very entertaining.

      Oops. Wait.

      I came here as a refuge. I found myself in circumstances where my human rights were not protected. Australia grants hundreds of resident visas to asylum seekers every year. In case of this story it is a pity it cannot provide “shelter” to its own citizen. And yes, Australian flora and fauna is really wonderfully puzzling.

    • PJ says:

      01:04pm | 21/06/12

      .....  for political expediency, we turn our back on one of our own, whose true crime was showing us how the world actually works.

    • ZSRenn says:

      02:15pm | 21/06/12

      Is that if your Julian Assange you can have sex with any woman, even if she says No!.
      Is that really how the world looks to you.

      Then if if your Julian Assange you can claim political expediency and can have sex with any women you like, even if she says NO!
      Is that really how the world looks to you.

      Also if you are Julian Assange you can say the US only wants to get me to Sweden so the US can extradite me even though you can be extradited from England and they haven’t done it so you can have sex with any women you like, even if she says NO!
      Is that really how the world looks to you.

      Research by awesome ZSRenn intern Suki Yeung

    • willie says:

      03:08pm | 21/06/12

      @ZSRenn
      you’re
      and the women didnt say no.

    • PJ says:

      03:10pm | 21/06/12

      .....  did he have unlawful sex awesome ZSRenn?

      The condom produced from the alleged crime did not have any DNA from Assange nor the woman herself?

      oh!  ;-D

      Assange showed us that not only is the world not black and white, but there are multiple levels of grey areas as well.

      This is highly valuable information for you and the talented Suki, as it will assist you in deciphering what is actually going on.

      Assange has given you the right to be suspicious, free from the accusation of being a conspiracy theorist nut.

      I am one of many who are dependent upon you and Suki to see through the muddied waters in 470 days time.

    • JN says:

      04:09pm | 21/06/12

      What part of presumption of innocence do any of you people not understand? There is not even any charges filed yet. I’m not saying one way or the other what my personal view or Assange is, but at least give the guy the benefit of the same legal process as anyone else in the West is entitled to. FFS ZRenn, your post reads like he has already been convicted and sentenced.

    • Hamish says:

      04:56pm | 21/06/12

      JN, he hasn’t been tried because he refuses to return to Sweden to face questioning. He’s deliberately avoiding justice. He is being treated exactly the same way as anyone else. I really have no idea what the Assange-philes are suggesting is wrong…

    • JN says:

      05:22pm | 21/06/12

      Hamish, I’m sorry but that just isn’t true. All that Assange has done is fight the accusations (you can be charged with a crime or even tried in in absentia in Sweden no problem). There is no Swedish law that says you can’t be questioned outside of Sweden in relation to a crime either. By any normal measure, the Swedish authorities are being unusually heavy handed. The only illegal thing Assange has done that can be proven (yet?) is breach bail conditions. I’m not saying the guy should not answer the allegations, I’m just saying he should be extended the same presumption of innocence as any other person is and that includes using every legal defense that he may wish to use. But I wouldn’t worry too much, he will be refused asylum and you will see him on that plane to Sweden.

    • ali says:

      01:26am | 23/06/12

      ah, a slither of sanity and a whole lot of inane stupidity from people who think ‘research’ means googling something and then reading the ‘mass media’ version of an event (mostly opting for the most recognisable source, like newscorp tabloid types).  brilliant (not).

      but nice at least to see the sanity (thank you willie, pj and jn). 

      dont forget, one of the women was bragging about the one night stand on social networks the following day, and introduced her mate to assange (the second complainant in the ‘non’ case, since no charges have been laid) - note, no charges have been laid, so he is guilty of what?  and why cant they ask him questions where he is?  ever think about that, or does this exercise the muscle in your head too too much?  perhaps it does, maybe you shouldnt - over exertion could cause a headache wink

      it is almost guaranteed that the paper work for extradition from sweeden to the US is already drawn up - why not from the UK?  because they have pretty darn complex due process for such things, and the last poor sods that got dragged off for some questionable computer hacking crime (note, they were muslim - probably their real crime) had 7 years of court hearings over that extradition order.  by the way, one of the most nasty computer viruses in recent times was put together by the CIA and their buddies in Israel. 

      dont know why i read these comments ... for the little bit of sanity, i find the state of stupidity amongst fellow Australians (online) quite depressing.

    • Martin says:

      01:10pm | 21/06/12

      “Charles Darwin formed his renowned theory on how reptiles evolved into humans who run websites”.

      Shouldn’t that be “How reptiles evolved into greedy and unscrupulous bankers” ?

      Whoops, my mistake. I’ve realised that should actually read “How reptile shit evolved into greedy and unscrupulous bankers” ...

    • James1 says:

      03:01pm | 21/06/12

      Shhh!  Shut up about Darwin, or else Zac will turn up and ruin everyone’s fun.

    • Bazza the Oracle says:

      01:12pm | 21/06/12

      This whimp ,who’s never had a real job in his life has become a joke with mainstream Australians. Professional protestor , bludger and possibly a rapist???? If he isn’t guilty why not simply face the music? Of course all the left wing ‘interlectuals’ out there are prepared to ignore this trivial accusation, amazingly both men AND women. He has leeched off the public his whole life and we’re still wasting money on him. Get Real!!

    • Rocksteady says:

      01:53pm | 21/06/12

      For one, why don’t they charge him with the crime before demanding he be there for the interview? Give him a trial with no fear of extradition to the US. It’s really not that hard from a legal point of view. If he refuses then he’s a just pathetic rapist running away from justice and anyone supporting him will look like an idiot.

      The fact is that Sweden has legal mechanisms for him to be extradited to the US without ever being charged for even the most petty crime in Sweden, just by arriving in Sweden is enough to have him extradited.

    • LostinPerth says:

      02:00pm | 21/06/12

      Threat of extradition aside, I agree. Julian should answer the questions concerning the alleged sexual assault. If there is no case then that would be the end of it, if there is sufficient evidence then the victims deserve their day in court.

      If it was anyone else apart from Julian, the lengths he is going to to avoid answering questions concerning the alleged crime would seem to imply guilt.

    • Jason says:

      07:53am | 22/06/12

      Bazza the Oral….  has obviously never heard of the   American   ‘Volksgerichtshof’  system (including secret and unchallenged ‘Grand Juries’),  or the all-powerful ‘Tribunals’  (patterned on   the “Sondergericht, a special court, established in 1934 by German Chancellor Adolf Hitler,),  which operated on the principle that ‘Anyone we don’t like is guilty’.

      He’s obviously also unaware of the principle that the prosecution has to PROVE a case   with   facts,  not depend   what a   (possible) defendent might say in an interview.

      But I guess one can’t expect too much of the Swedes;  they collaborated with the (German)  nazis, too, at the slightest hint of being bullied.

    • marley says:

      08:46am | 22/06/12

      @Jason - first, I gather you don’t understand the Grand Jury system - which is not about convicting people of offences but determining whether there are sufficient grounds to actually charge them.  To say Grand Jury decisions are unchallenged is to ignore the entire subsequent criminal court process, during which those charges are indeed put to the test.  Comparing grand juries with Nazi tribunals is simply ignorant hyperbole.

      Second, so far the only court Assange has faced is a British one, involving neither Grand Juries nor pro-German neutrals.  He doesn’t like the decision, which is understandable, but he’s had a fair crack at arguing extradition.

      Third, Sweden is part of the EU and has a criminal justice system every bit as balanced as anywhere else.

    • ehhhh says:

      01:16pm | 21/06/12

      How does that Assange get so many ladies?

      I’ve never understood that.

    • Mondo Mondo says:

      01:43pm | 21/06/12

      Probably by digital enhancement.

    • M says:

      01:58pm | 21/06/12

      Alpha male/bad boy.

    • Muggles says:

      01:35pm | 21/06/12

      “there have been recent government-enforced shutdowns in the broadcast media.”

      Sounds like the Australian Greens.

      Or Wayne Swan.

    • Knemon says:

      01:36pm | 21/06/12

      One thing Assange is not…stupid.

      I could only be so lucky to be able to claim asylum in Ecuador, it would sure beat having to live along side greedy, whinging, drunk, racist, and redneck bogans everyday!

      Now, what does one have to do to be persecuted by their government? I’m open to suggestions!

    • Max Power says:

      03:40pm | 21/06/12

      Earn above $80,000 a year.

    • Knemon says:

      04:20pm | 21/06/12

      LOL - Touché Max grin

    • AdamC says:

      01:36pm | 21/06/12

      Sam A, Assange has been under “house arrest” for 500+ days because he chose to appeal his extradition to the highest Court in the land.

      What would you have the Australian government do to assist Assange?

    • Muggles says:

      05:05pm | 21/06/12

      Maybe don’t have the PM declare his actions “illegal”?

      Sorta defeats the purpose of the courts, no?

      (Not saying he’s a good guy.  Seems to be a bit of a tosser, actually. But we don’t throw people in jail because they’re tossers. Otherwise Assange would be sharing a cell with Gillard, Swan and many other luminaries of the present government.)

    • AdamC says:

      08:25pm | 21/06/12

      Muggles, that was just yet another inaccurate remark by our ‘I say the opposite of what is true’ PM. It has had no bearing whatsoever on any legal proceeding to which Assange is subject.

      Like I asked, what is the government supposed to *do* to help Assange?

    • dazeddazza says:

      11:18am | 22/06/12

      Perhaps he should get caught with a small amount of pot, ala “Bali Boy”, then he would have pollies galore at his service.

    • Condoseres says:

      01:43pm | 21/06/12

      Ecuador sounds like a great place to plan a holiday.

      (This post was researched, drafted, subbed and submitted by my awesome intern Samantha. That girl needs a raise).

    • spacer says:

      01:20pm | 22/06/12

      It’s fantastic. Stayed there for 6 months last year. Great surfing beaches, fun mountains to hike, interesting people and the Galapagos Islands are amazing.

    • Frank says:

      01:44pm | 21/06/12

      Agree. Why support dropkicks like Assange - they’ll knife you when they feel the urge.

    • thomas vesely says:

      07:21am | 24/06/12

      did you feel the urge ?

    • Justin of Earlwood says:

      01:46pm | 21/06/12

      I hope they have offshore processing & mandatory detention for asylum seekers.

    • David says:

      01:48pm | 21/06/12

      I will tell you why “if he isn’t guilty then face the music” - because he will be found guilty whether he is or not. The case against him is/was so weak that it initially got thrown out. It took political interference (an MP) to get it reinstated. They have deliberately chosen a “magistrate” who will convict him.
      Do the crime and do the time yes. Rape is a very serious offence and should never be taken lightly but there is enough here to suggest that there are other issues involved and that the two women making the claims are being, at very least, used and quite possibly complicit in ensuring that Assange is convicted for consensual sex.
      Cannot imagine who would want to have sex with him but there are definitely some issues which need to be looked at.
      All the same Ecuador is welcome to him.

    • Louie the Fly who knows Stuff. says:

      01:51pm | 21/06/12

      That’s a guanaco not a llama!

    • thatmosis says:

      01:51pm | 21/06/12

      And the people who put up his bail are now out over $500,000 as he has broken his bail provisions. Once again he is taking people for a ride and shown his true colours.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      01:56pm | 21/06/12

      ‘sexual assault is “a persistent problem” in Ecuador’. Hmm. I guess Assange figured he would just melt into the crowd ha ha! They sound like his sort of people.

    • marley says:

      02:02pm | 21/06/12

      Umm, isn’t Ecuador in the western, not “eastern equatorial region of South America?”  Just asking….

    • Sickemrex says:

      05:54pm | 21/06/12

      Depends on whether your head is on upside down like that kid on Family Guy.

    • James says:

      01:36pm | 22/06/12

      Yes it is on the west coast. And the spanish translation in the article is wrong…

    • jo says:

      02:19pm | 21/06/12

      Shame on our government not protecting one of its own, I hardly think what the two women are accusing Julian Assange of, can be called rape,  Anyway it’s politically motivated anyway, 
      And how does Assange get so many ladies, well ehhh, he is not bad looking, intelligent,  has acomplished a lot in his forty years, unlike the people who get great pleasure in bagging this man, when he is down….  and have the sheep mentality,  and believe everything their goverments tells them,  and close their eyes to governments that protect people with high profiles,that have done a lot worse things than Julian Assange.
      Whats wrong with the truth, has it gone out of fashion these days. I am grateful for what Julian Assange has exposed, starvation wars, corruption, fraud, suffering, just so those at the top of the game of life can, live a life of wealth and luxury, at the expense of the majority of the citizens of our world… Governments of the world could make this a fairer world for everyone. but they choose not to.

    • Andrew says:

      04:11pm | 21/06/12

      Exactly what has he exposed Jo, because I havent heard anything that we didnt already know. However his actions have led to the death of informants and made it a lot harder for the US to seek diplomatic solutions.

    • Miles says:

      04:58pm | 21/06/12

      As opposed to being a sheep and believing whatever he tells you??

      How do you know what he says is ‘the truth’?  You have nothing to go on but his word.  Also, how do you know he is not filtering and manipulating ‘the truth’ to suit his own agendas?  You don’t.  Baaaah Baaaah…

    • jo says:

      02:30pm | 21/06/12

      Hey Bazza…. easy to see you are no intellectual, you can’ even spell the word. He has done a lot of good work,  but you don’t have the brains to see that….  No the only trivial accusations I am ignoring are yours…..If you educated yourself on what this whole saga is about,  maybe you would make more sense.

    • renold says:

      02:36pm | 21/06/12

      Wonder if the investigative journalists of The Punch have actually investigated the charges being brought against Assange in Sweden.

      Truth is, based on the same circumstances and evidence already presented, no other country in Europe would have charged Assange

    • M says:

      02:59pm | 21/06/12

      Shh, that’d ruin it for the idiots here who reckon he won’t be hung, drawn and quatered if the US gets it’s hands on him.

    • marley says:

      03:51pm | 21/06/12

      It is a generally accepted principle that, when in a foreign country, one obeys the laws of that country.  Trying to claim that, because you’re Australian, foreign laws shouldn’t apply to you doesn’t work in Indonesia and it shouldn’t work in Sweden.

    • AdamC says:

      04:25pm | 21/06/12

      Renold, I do not believe that Julian Assange has actually been charged at this point. All these claims and counter-claims about this case and Swedish law are entirely pointless. The Swedes had to tick certain boxes to enable an extradition and they have done that.

      M, what are you basing that claim on? Seriously, half your comments around here seem to refer to some kind of fantasy world that you have made up to justify your position.

      Marley, too true.

    • renold says:

      05:44pm | 21/06/12

      @Adam
      I know he hasnt been charged as yet, but merely extradited for questioning, which is bizarre in itself

      Under the circumstaces as it currently stands, Swedish police could simply have done the questioning in England.

      I know that is the case, because I actually have done that..with others of course as part of an investigation team.

    • Chris says:

      02:38pm | 21/06/12

      If Ecuador does not give him asylum and the Swedes find him guilty (which they would do their best to do) and incarcerate him (which they would) and then the US demands his extradition (which they might) Assange would be turned into a martyr. Hmmm….
      If the Swedes found him not guilty (unlikely but still possible) and the US demanded him (which they might still do) he would have been vindicated and be turned into a martyr.
      This may be a good tactical move. Even if not granted asylum it is going to be a damn sight harder to extradite him to the US because he is going to be able to say he did genuinely fear extradition and that the alleged rape is being used to get him into custody. Hmmm…..

    • KH says:

      03:06pm | 21/06/12

      There are NO CHARGES.  They want to *question* him, which he has offered to allow now in the UK, but they declined.  There will probably never be any actual charges - then they would be wasting time with a trial.  They just want him in Sweden, from where he can be extradited to the USA.  Don’t be so naive - you don’t go to these extraordinary lengths to question someone about not using a condom unless there is something else behind it.  The fact that these allegations had previously been dismissed and only reappeared after wikileaks published US documents is way too timely to be a coincidence.

    • Punters Pal says:

      04:34pm | 21/06/12

      KH, you are wrong. Swedish prosecutor does not just want to have a little chat to him. He is under investigation for serious crimes.

      You are making up stuff because it suits your agenda.

      This, courtesy of another website:

      Unlawful coercion

      On 13-14 August 2010, in home of the injured party [A] in Stockholm, Assange, by using violence, forced the injured party to endure his restricting her freedom of movement. The violence consisted in a firm hold of the injured party’s arms and a forceful spreading of her legs while lying on top of her and with his body weight preventing her from moving or shifting.

      Sexual molestation

      On 13-14 August 2010, in home of the injured party [A] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity. Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, consummated sexual intercourse with her without her knowledge.

      Sexual molestation

      On 18 August 2010 or on any of the days before or after that date, in the home of the injured party [A] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity; that is, lying next to her and pressing his naked, erect penis to her body.

      Rape

      On 17 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [B], Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep, was in a helpless state. It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party’s integrity.

    • JN says:

      05:12pm | 21/06/12

      And he should answer those allegations, but as has been mentioned before, there has been no actual charges laid. It is entirely legal for charges to be laid in absentia in Sweden. Not only that but the arrest warrant was issued in 2010, then withdrawn a day later including comment that he had no charges to answer for, then re-issued in 2012. There is no legal requirement in Sweden that questioning must be completed inside their borders - it is perfectly legal to conduct the questioning on Skype or in the Swedish embassy in London for that matter. The other thing I find interesting is why injured party A (allegedly), allowed Assanje into her house several days after he had violated and molested her (allegedly) so that he could then procede to rape her (allegedly)? Lastly, this case has so much media bias surrounding it, it isn’t funny. I think a good lawyer could very well get him off. But what then of the US indictment?

      Assange is very unpopular but that is no reason to ignore basic facts. You are listing accusations Punter - remember that people who are charged and found innocent are answering allegations.

    • Little Joe says:

      07:10pm | 21/06/12

      Bloody hell ..... it’s Craig Thomson all over again!!

    • Reuben Truscott says:

      02:42pm | 21/06/12

      The laws regarding sexual assault and rape in Sweden are so different to Australia’s that he would certainly not be charged here with the same offences.  The issue, I believe, was with contraception, not consent.

    • JN says:

      02:46pm | 21/06/12

      I thought it was actually Reptiles who ran websites; not Humans?

      Other positives in Equador include Chervech and Cuy. I’ve always wanted to try Guinea Pig, they are so damn cute that they have to be tasty - possibly like 4 legged quail. Apart from that Guinea Pigs appear to be quite useless animals; but try telling that to my kids who seem to like looking at them but not looking after them. I also quite like the idea of trecking through the Andes, and eating some fo the best steak in the world, washed down with dirt cheap beer.

      Scotchfinger - that’s a bit rough. No charges filed yet. Presumption of innocence and all that?

      Has anyone notiiced that federal Labor seems to have at least appeared to changed tactics lately and started focusing on policy instead of Abbott. Good idea for them; I think it will win them more support, and it’s the least I expect from any incumbent party. If Gillard, found some way to get Assange back to Australia and then thumbed her nose at the Amercicans it would probably win her more support - everyone loves to hate the Yanks.

    • Onlooker says:

      02:47pm | 21/06/12

      The only good ting that can see about him running off to the Equatorial Embassy, is that he has in effect jailed himself. The minute he steps a foot outside that door the Brits will arrest him for breaking his bail conditions. I feel very sorry for those posted the bail, they have lost their money. Assange cares only about himself.

    • Luigi says:

      02:57pm | 21/06/12

      Good one Anthony.  Julian is just a self serving narcissistic sook who feels he deserves special treatment.  He’s runnin’ scared now.

      Let the judicial system do its job.

    • jg says:

      03:00pm | 21/06/12

      Poor Julien, he wanted to be James Bond but ended up as a whiny little girl.

    • thomas vesely says:

      07:28am | 24/06/12

      that makes you a bitch….........

    • davo of Thorneside says:

      03:33pm | 21/06/12

      A lot of people in the room bleating about the law in Sweden and how it would play out…must be like the climate change mob, all talk and no facts.

      I give him 2 months in the joint before he is knifed/shot/goes missing. No loss really.

    • Andrew says:

      04:20pm | 21/06/12

      It amazes me that people think that the US wants to turn this guy into a martyr. You really believe Obama in a election year wants to charge assange, the only people that would help him with are people who wont vote for him anyway. Prosecuting Assange would be political suicide for Obama. And anyone that follows Obama knows he only does things if its a political advantage for him, he doesnt do things based on what he believes is right or wrong. On top of that it would only put the wikileaks back in the limelight, do you really think the US wants that, they would prefer it just goes away.

    • JN says:

      07:43pm | 21/06/12

      He will face charges eventually in the US make no mistake. Personally I think Obama would see it as a great opportunity - he is not very popular with the right in the US at the moment. Charging and trying Assange would definitely appeal to the right wing in the States just as topping Bin Ladin and various other Al Qaeda leaders has. I really can’t understand this talk about martyrdom - Assange has very little support anywhere.

    • Bris Jack says:

      04:35pm | 21/06/12

      Always thought he had delusions of grandeur. Bet he Googled Julian and up popped the Ecuador’s Julian Revolution.

    • chuck says:

      04:55pm | 21/06/12

      Yeap the hole Swedish thing (pun intended) does look a little seedy for Julian. Must have been a cultural or communication thing. As for a fair trial - seems unlikely given the alleged fiddling with the “briefs” in the first instance.
      You can almost bet your sweet Nelly that Bob Carr and our magnificent consular services have spent more time on the drongo lawyer in Libya than on Julian.
      Pity Julian didn’t have a secret camera to record his meetings with the ladies.
      Any chance of swapping one self confessed liar with almost the same name for Julian who conceivably has done more for open government than anyone in Australian history?

    • Officer Krupke says:

      06:24pm | 21/06/12

      If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to be afraid of.

    • Jason says:

      07:26am | 22/06/12

      Yeah..Right. That’s exactly what the   (other)  nazis said to Germany’s jews in the 1936 census.

    • Officer Krupke says:

      09:50am | 22/06/12

      That’s what the police in Australia say now as they implement stop and search and anti association laws.

    • Daniel says:

      06:51pm | 21/06/12

      I think its disgusting the way the Australian government has done nothing to help this guy out. He is innocent until proven guilty. He qualifies for Aussie fo the year the way he stands up for freedom of speech.

    • marley says:

      08:31pm | 21/06/12

      So, what should the Australian government have done?  Interfere in the judicial affairs of a foreign country like the UK? Or Sweden?  What is it you actually think it could have done?

    • michael j says:

      08:08pm | 21/06/12

      clearly this has been part of Julian’s well thought out plan from the beginning ,,
      he knew he was traitor to our most important ally and he knew he would be marked as Cain ,
      how many people has he put to death with his treasonous behavior ? 
      the yanks should put one of their new malfunctioning RAPTORS straight into his bedroom window ,,,of course they should compensate the ecky-dory-ens
      with a new embassy in a better part of town,,,

    • AnthonyG says:

      08:20pm | 21/06/12

      He shouldn’t run away like a woos. If he hasn’t done anything wrong he should stay and face court and if he is found to have fucked up he should cop his wack. enough is enough.

    • Bob Dobelina says:

      10:05pm | 21/06/12

      If, and I emphasize if, Julian faciltated Private Manning in obtaining the said WikiLeaks material, I would be running for the hills too (Mount Chimborazo in this case). Sometimes I ponder whether this may be the case and that Julian suspects that the US knows that he did help Manning and is now going to extraordinary lengths to avoid what would be some very serious charges with some very signifiacnt penalties. Just conjecture of course.

    • Joolsnotcool says:

      10:09pm | 21/06/12

      Assange is a gutless wonder. He espouses freedom of speech on everything but the truth about him and these alleged assaults.

      Stop blowing buckets of money on famous expensive lawyers and face the music and your accusers, you gutless prick.

      I don’t care if the CIA/FBI or the bloody RSPCA snatch you either.

    • Bazza the Oracle says:

      10:38pm | 21/06/12

      Have a look at yourself Jo and count the amount of money you’ve sponged off this country in your life. A simple typing error doesn’t mean i’m a drongo.It seems to me that most of Assanges supporters are misfits, professional bludgers, or academics supporting a bizarre loner . I don’t think the charges in court will stand up quite frankly but why hasn’t he got the guts to front them . These weird theories about US involvement may be a smoke screen to protect the guilty?

    • Bho Ghan-Pryde says:

      11:23pm | 21/06/12

      I personally support Wikileaks but that is only because I have a pathological mistrust of government and so anything that exposes it is good in my view. But this business of Julian’s human rights being at risk seems a bit of a red hearing. He is fighting extradition to Sweden to face sexual assault charges. Now, Sweden has one of the best human rights records in the world and a long established open and independent judiciary. I do not think anyone could seriously believe he is not going to get a fair trial there - Sweden’s record is second to none. This all seems a tad confected. Someone is confusing what is going on here for their own ends. The only question is who and why.

    • Redmond says:

      08:15am | 22/06/12

      As a person who would never believe the word of any American, nor a party politician, naturally only stupid Australian political party supporters believe them. I find it ironic that Julia supports any asylum seeker who floats, flies or generally arrives illegally into Australian territory, yet she turns her back on an Australian seeking exactly the same sanctuary.
      Naturally, America will do as Australia instructs…..........................Not.
      Not happy Julia.
      Would Tony have done the same?
      You bet he would.
      Why do we only get a choice of a pommie or another pommie?
      How did we let ourselves get into this predicament?
      Politics has never gotten grubbier in this country, thanks to these two.
      God help Australia.
      God knows, we need it

    • KimL says:

      08:28am | 22/06/12

      Why would Assange run and hide..again? Why has he contacted the 2 women who accused him and tried to make a deal? Only one reason I can think of, he is guilty. Bradley Manning is facing the repercussions of leaking the documents, Assange is a coward. The people of Equador will be paying for his board and upkeep for a very long time, if he leaves that Embassy he will and should be arrested, the people who put his his bail have lost a great deal of money because of his cowardliness.  I do not believe his excuse that the USA will extradite him, its just a ploy to avoid facing justice.

    • daz says:

      11:48am | 23/06/12

      Bad idea to mock another country about their “press freedom index”. Australia seems to be wayy down at spot 30, while the top spots are taken by those pesky socialist, leftist, Scandinavians. What is wrong with the quality of our journalism, and how to fix it should be the question.
      USA is at no. 47 which gives you an idea about their so called ‘freedom and liberty’ propaganda dished out by their right-wing nutters operating as corporate puppets.

    • John T says:

      04:18pm | 23/06/12

      Treasonous little weasel seeking asylum in Ecuador which has one of the most censored media in the world. Classic lefty squirming & lying when presented with reality.

 

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