Our supposedly classless society is showing signs of being divided into two camps where people’s private choices as individuals and their behaviour as families are regulated on the basis of their affluence.

Apparently one of these people needs government intervention

And it’s in the area of nutrition, preventative health and exercise where the working class, for want of a better term, is increasingly being treated like a bunch of babies, while the more affluent members of society continue to live as they please.

It’s only a small thing but it’s a signifier for the times, a demonstration of a mindset which holds that working class people are unable to modify their behaviour, while the gentry can be trusted to keep its conduct in check. But get along to the SCG, that great people’s arena, where our knockabout, egalitarian society lets the members drink as much full-strength beer as they want and limits the great unwashed to light beer.

In a similar vein, it was disappointing to see former Premier Bob Carr use an address to the Local Government Association to demand that councils effectively ban fast food outlets from trading on the grounds that they are “poisoning” what he identified as working class families with substances such as transfats.

Bob Carr is an aesthete and a health fanatic who as premier used to drink hot cups of water with a slice of lemon and probably still does. He abhors the binge-drinking culture of his chosen professional homes – journalism and, latterly, the labour movement. He famously once declared war on sausage rolls – “fat encased in fat” he called them – and was then advised by his minders to eat a meat pie for the cameras the next day to ward off any suggestions of eccentricity.

I raise those points not to tease him but to describe him. Australian men have a dumb tradition of teasing healthy people and it’s not something I am trying to do here. There is nothing wrong with not drinking grog and eating well.

But there’s a problem with telling everybody else that they have to do just that – and an even bigger problem in generalising about the working class as if they have a monopoly on bad diet and a lack of exercise.

We’re talking here about a hard core of uneducated poor people, or poor people who simply choose to act stupidly, by turning themselves and their kids into lard-arsed blimps.

Banning fast food for the vast majority of sensible working class families who use it as a treat, or a stop-gap on a busy weeknight, is patronising in the extreme.

If anything, the megahit that was Masterchef demonstrated how the so-called working class is officially turned on to healthy, high-end dining. 

Before we start banning things in Queen St, Campbelltown, we should also get along to Crown St, Surry Hills, on any day of the week and watch the more corpulent members of the middle class hoofing into gruyere soufflés and black puddings. And I say that with a bit of experience. No-one is shutting those joints down; perhaps it’s because they’ve got elegance and a good sommelier on their side.

We don’t need intervention, especially by a redundant and unrepresentative tier of government which Mr Carr often railed against as Premier. We need much more aggressive home economics education where every kid from the age of seven, and into high school, gets mandatory classes on food preparation, starting with the most basic master texts of cooking by geniuses such as Elizabeth David and Margaret Fulton and Jane Grigson and Stephanie Alexander, to show them that cooking is more fun, cheap, and more satisfying than a Big Mac will ever be.

Anyone with half a brain could read David’s 1955 classic A Book of Mediterranean Food and cook a different dinner every night until they die not of diabetes but old age.

To finish on the class war theme, if you really want to make yourself spew, dig out a copy of last month’s edition of Fairfax’s excruciatingly pretentious The (Sydney) Magazine for its morally indifferent tribute to the star, in-house chefs seconded to the bigger investment firms and merchant banks around town, dishing up Michelin-starred cuisine to the long-suffering executives who are having to stay back quite late at the office because of that pesky GFC.

Your heart goes out to them.

There is of course another class of people who have coped quite differently with the GFC – by not working at all anymore, let alone staying back late, eschewing the duck leg confit with a rocket, parmesan and pear salad for something made from mincemeat, or getting along not to Neil Perry’s new grill bar but the Salvos.

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    • Sir Lolsworthy says:

      11:50am | 30/10/09

      Yes, E, that’s exactly what I said. Thank god someone was able to work it out. In case you can’t tell, I’m being sarcastic.
      Get your hands on copies of ‘Fast Food Nation’ and ‘Don’t Eat This Book’ if you want to learn about the realities of the situation

    • Sophie says:

      09:28pm | 29/10/09

      I blame the baby boomers. Aspirational… apathetic and about to become a massive burden on the healthcare system.

    • xiaoecho says:

      05:01pm | 29/10/09

      Holy hell wowsers are a bore aren’t they? People have forgotten how to, not only enjoy their own lives, but how to live and let live.  What a joyless bunch do-gooders are

    • stevespater says:

      02:44pm | 29/10/09

      Go on fighting the good fight Pembo against ALL the signs of preciousness that have been infesting oz for the past 10 years. The label “fine dining ” as a weird kind of social/aesthetic demarcation line is a prime example. The only kind of guarantee that the term implies when applied to far too many establishments is that you"ll have about a 60/40 chance of leaving the joint still hungry after having parted with a few hundred bucks on the food and the criminally over-priced booze- sorry, “fine wines”. I speak from a couple of recent depressing experiences. I felt like rushing down to Amalfis for a decent pizza- like about 1/2 the chefs in Adelaide, by the way!

    • E says:

      11:34am | 29/10/09

      @Sir Lolsworthy : “It makes sense that lower levels of education would result in more poor choices being made, hence the demographic spread in things like smoking,
      obesity, diabetes, heart disease etc.”

      So you are saying that you didnt understand that smoking was bad for you until you went to uni? This is indeed lolsworthy. I think that ‘education’ is being used in two different senses, first as in ‘the education system’ (school university etc) and second as in public relations style education (condescending pamphlets, moronic advertising).

      And @Sophie, yep some good points there, as alluded to in another post (or was it the main post, i get them confused), the availibility of ‘profitable’ food puts people with limited means in a terrible predicament. Either buy cheap low quality food, or go without other purchases. With the health problems being off in the future but the deprivation in the present, its clear why such choices are more often made by poorer people, and that many of those who are currently more affluent would make similarly ‘uniwse’ choices if they had to choose between their organic veggies and insuring the car.
      As usual the real blame for this mess can be put squarely with those who profit by it, the marketing department, same as for cigarettes, sexualisation of children and the generally low quality, cheap and nasty civilisation we seem to be stuck in (for our convenience).

    • Sophie says:

      08:33am | 29/10/09

      I think the class war is really about the cost of food Pembo…
      It’s cheaper to buy a bucket of chicken from The Colonel’s deep Fry Palace (not sure if they use Palm Oil?) for a family family of five for $20. Shopping from a supermarket to feed the same family of five would cost more than $5 per head. This thing we call value is getting more for less.. cheaper is better but not healthier.

      Programs like Masterchef should come with a health warning (like cigarettes and alcohol) “Eating this much fat will give you a heart disease and make you obese”. I have heard the whispers that several hosts were taken to hospital for heart checks after experiencing chest pain during the filming of the first series.

      I agree cooking programs have rekindled our love of cooking at home… but they promote the use of hight fat and excessive wastage. Not sure any blue-collar family could justify throwing away food.
      Did someone say greenhouse emissions…?
      Pembo, when was the last time you bought a croquembouche tower for Sunday night dessert?

      I think education is important but even the so called Upper-class you refer to make stupid decisions about what they eat.
      Whether for convenience or by ignorance we have become blind and deaf and stupid when it comes to remembering what is unhealthy eating:

      Those stupid ‘water plus things’ drinks… the things are sugar
      Low fat anything… equals double the sugar
      Two trays of sushi is not healthy…  it’s double the portion size
      Turkish bread has more KJ than two (yes TWO) Mars Bars
      Energy drinks have at least six teaspoons of sugar ( to the tin) and are the equivalent to about five coffees.

      The answer is simple: Tax fast food/oils…

      Imagine a day when fast food becomes the luxury food item that we’ve always said it was. Twenty five dollar Neil Perry Wagyu Beef burger anyone?

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      09:38pm | 28/10/09

      I’m all for the working class getting fit in time for the revolution. Certainly run rings around that fat assed police constable or military officer. Hard PT for the lot of them. By the way what’s wrong with a few more of the upper class dropping dead of health related problems? The more the merrier I say.

    • Jones says:

      08:08pm | 28/10/09

      I think it’s arrogant to assume that people actually want to be thin and healthy. Maybe they’re leading their lives, loving their families and enjoying the pleasures of food without indulging in the dreadfully boring pastime of being obsessed with one’s own body. Maybe they would rather be here for a good time, not a long time.
      When I see my previously health obsessed grandmother withering from dementia in a hostel for the living dead, I wish she’d had cream in her coffee and poured that extra glass of wine instead of living on muesli and cholesterol medication for the last decade, in constant terror of a heart attack.

    • stephen says:

      04:15pm | 28/10/09

      Here’e a bourgeois recipe yer can try at home : baked beans on toast. Then put on a Polo, clinch yer teeth, lift yer top lip and say ’ How inappropriate’.

    • Sir Lolsworthy says:

      04:04pm | 28/10/09

      ‘a wagonload of fat-packed treats, plus bonus monster soft drink, for half the price of the ingredients for a healthy meal.’

      If you can’t create a healthy meal for a family of four for less than the cost of four takeaway meals, you are doing it wrong.

    • Ian says:

      03:27pm | 28/10/09

      All true except the bit about healthy food being just as cheap. Particularly if you buy your produce from Coles or Woolies. Everyone’s letterbox is full of coupons that let you buy a wagonload of fat-packed treats, plus bonus monster soft drink, for half the price of the ingredients for a healthy meal. Which you then have to cook.

    • Bitten says:

      02:53pm | 28/10/09

      Why do people have a problem with taking responsibility for their own health? What is the big deal with living healthier? Is it really that much of a challenge? Goodness, if that’s the case, I suppose Australians must find walking upright next to impossible.

    • Julia says:

      02:14pm | 28/10/09

      Maybe Carr is right. If we were all just a little more disgusted by the concept of fat wrapped in fat, and horrified by pictures like the one above, maybe people wouldn’t get fat in the first place.

      And it’s not the government’s fault their fat. It’s their fault. The idea is you lead a horse to water and hope it drinks water, not coke or lemonade or staminade.

    • Alex says:

      01:42pm | 28/10/09

      Way to miss the point Penbo. Which I think you did purposefully, to force a class-war theme into this. Carr’s issue was with trans fats - objectively harmful substances, which have been prohibited elsewhere. His issue wasn’t with the identity of the restaurant that used them, just the usage. As he’s pointed out, there are alternatives.
      This was clumsy journalism and I think you know it.

    • Sir Lolsworthy says:

      01:41pm | 28/10/09

      It’s all very well to say that people should left to their own devices but it’s pretty obvious that tends to result in a lot of people making poor choices. It makes sense that lower levels of education would result in more poor choices being made, hence the demographic spread in things like smoking, obesity, diabetes, heart disease etc.
      With the alarming news about the projected increase in type 2 diabetes (which is an almost entirely preventable disease), that’s a lot of money that could be directed to other causes being chewed up. Who could be happy with that?

    • Matt says:

      12:24pm | 28/10/09

      David, I’m sure that if the SCG had as many complaints about members getting smashed and throwing full cups of beer in the air, all over nearby children (and adults), then they’d ban full-strength beer in the members section as well.

      I can’t see how the beer ban is a case of people’s choices being “regulated on the basis of their affluence”. People’s choices are being regulated on the basis of past and present behaviour.

      The SCG experienced too much unacceptable crowd behaviour over too many years, and therefore shifted to light beer. Since then, it’s experienced less unacceptable crowd behaviour, which seems to suggest the decision served its purpose.

      If it experiences similar problems in the member’s section I’m sure it will take the same decision. So far, no need to.

      I know that doesn’t fit your storyline, but, that hasn’t stopped you from trying to twist it so it does.

    • RT says:

      11:46am | 28/10/09

      Russell, I’m so glad you already live near a fast food outlet and of course that gives you the right to read the comments of others objecting to a possible similar fate ‘and weep’, while they, living next to commercial zones, should have no rights to complain, ‘god-given’ or otherwise.  Long may the fat, sorry, fast food industry thrive in your neighbourhood.

      But you are right. It was cruel of me to suggest a dislike of fat people and raise the possibility of giving up on them. No, we should hound them mercilessly until they see the errors of their porcine ways, repent, and become slimmers.

    • Russell says:

      11:10am | 28/10/09

      RT, I’m not sure what aroused your wrath, but since you you appear to monitor this site zealously, allow me to make a few points in my defense –
      1. I do live near a very popular fast food restaurant (not maccas). It’s fishily aromatic and it generates a lot of traffic and noise. It’s a few doors away, not next door.
      2. If I lived right next door to a commercially zoned site which allowed food retailing, I would hardly regard it as my God-given right to object to just that sort of activity.
      And, ok, you dislike “fat people”  and want to “give up on” them. What does mean, and what does it say about you?

    • papachango says:

      11:00am | 28/10/09

      Typical nanny state intrusion on our lives. This is one of the major problems with excessive ‘socialised healthcare’ - it gives the government a mandate to do this.
      Because they’re paying for our medical treatment they have the right to dictate how we live our lives.

    • RT says:

      10:51am | 28/10/09

      ‘Horizontally enhanced’, Stephen Pickells? I like it. It suggests that one of the benefits of obesity might be a lower centre of gravity, giving more stability to the lucky larger ones.

    • TimT says:

      10:38am | 28/10/09

      There is of course another class of people who have coped quite differently with the GFC – by not working at all anymore, let alone staying back late, eschewing the duck leg confit with a rocket, parmesan and pear salad for something made from mincemeat, or getting along not to Neil Perry’s new grill bar but the Salvos.M

      GFC leads to… KFC?

      Great post.

    • Stephen Pickells says:

      10:19am | 28/10/09

      RT - It’s not girth-challenged, it’s horizontally enhanced.

    • Claude Pronoun says:

      10:00am | 28/10/09

      “There is nothing wrong with not drinking grog.” - D. Penberthy, 2009

      If I knew what the eyebrow-raised emoticon was, I’d insert it here.

      As for “the megahit that was Masterchef demonstrated how the so-called working class is officially turned on to healthy, high-end dining”, this sentence seems to be missing the words “watching” between “to” and “healthy” and “on TV” at the end.

    • Todd says:

      09:29am | 28/10/09

      Think of the children! Won’t someone think of the children?

    • RT says:

      09:23am | 28/10/09

      Well, COF, my ‘pathetic sneers’ seemed to have touched a nerve with you. You wouldn’t happen to be one of the - er - ‘girth-challenged’ would you? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I have absolutely no aesthetic objection at all to obesity. I think it’s more of a question of available space. That’s why I thought I was being supportive of chubsters, making a call for public facilities and accessways to be enlarged to accommodate our growing population. Growing in circumference, as well as number.

    • paul says:

      09:14am | 28/10/09

      Good points, Amy. What David also misses is that Big Food tells Rudd what to do, as we saw with his back down on Supermarket price checking. These companies pay alot of money in political ‘donations’ and not because they are charities. Follow the money Penbo! Is it a Nanny State or Sucker State when big companies dictate how much we taxpayers subsidise their profits or try to pass all the blame onto parents while selling trans fats.

    • David C says:

      09:02am | 28/10/09

      I think the political devlopment of late has not been in terms of left or right but in terms of doers and tellers.
      One group lives their life a certain way and lets others live their lives their way.
      The other group lives their life their way but wants everyone else to do the same. In fact they want the government to make other people live their way.
      Maybe this is a sign of affluence, we are not so worried about ourselves any more so we feel we have to worry about other people instead.

    • Stephen Pickells says:

      09:02am | 28/10/09

      I live near the south end of Crown Street and given the proportion of public housing tenants in the area, it’s surprising that there aren’t more fast food outlets. Of course you can get a kebab or a curry but if I wanted Hungry Jack’s, I would have to walk twenty minutes to Oxford Street and twenty minutes back. Instead I’m reduced to buying a fresh salmon steak for about five bucks, and grilling it myself.

    • Amy says:

      08:35am | 28/10/09

      Why is it that forcing people to do home economics classes is NOT patronising yet banning carcinogenic trans fats IS patronising?

      Most people don’t even know when they are eating trans fats because there is no rule that you have to be told.

      When there is compelling evidence for public health measures (such as there is for banning trans fats or for regulating smoking - to counter 100 years of clever advertising and politian support) then it is not “patronising” to implement them, it is good policy.

      David Penberthy has a nasty habit of ignoring the evidence around health issues (such as interventions to stop smoking or obesity) and just labeling anything he disagrees with as a “nanny state”. David, you don’t get to decide what is “working class” and what is good for the “working class” just because you once edited the Tele.

    • COF says:

      08:35am | 28/10/09

      RT, get over yourself. I assure you your pathetic sneers and lack of respect for your fellow citizens doesn’t mean anyone is going to respect your ill informed opinion.
      The nature of most government manipulations, especially with health, is that why the Department of Health may become less burdened (I as yet have seen no evidence that this is correct) but the Department of Aged Care becomes more burdened. Do you think the annual increase in pensions and various aged care services is not a significant burden as well? Should those that have the intention to live as long as possible have to pay a tax for the subsequent budget drain in Aged Care?
      Please give up the “tax burden” argument. It is old, tired, disingenuous, and incorrect.

    • Louis McLennan says:

      08:15am | 28/10/09

      Nah, lets stop jamming the schools with unnecessary crap and start making the parents play their role. This “they can’t help being stupid” attitude is not on! The prime minister needs to address the media on these issues. I don’t mean come and tell the people he’s wasting more money and achieving nothing. He should build up a sense of pride in the people. If you’re not eating right, not helping your kids with school work or not providing basic healthcare for your kids then you are not Australian. I could see something like that working in the USA (not so much with the Big O).

      I could see why Rudd would not do such a thing. He and his comrades are set on making the public rely on them. It’s working. Listen to people whine about private schools and private health insurance being unfair.

      Maybe if this were to happen people would understand why the USA was the way it was up until the mid 90’s. If you teach people to be responsible for themselves and those around them maybe Australia wouldn’t have all these red minded political parties. Everyone would be trying to achieve rather than waiting for government to do it and hating on anyone who does achieve.

      One only needs to look at the success to Joh to realise that popularity can be had without wrecking the country.

    • big mac says:

      08:10am | 28/10/09

      Bob Carr is to be admired for his stand on the disgraceful use of trans fats in certain fast food chains (not Mc Donalds) and indeed at many corner store shops. It does not matter what “class” you belong to when dyng of cancer as a result of cheap palm oils being used. They are illegal in Europe and they ought be here too.

    • Liz says:

      08:09am | 28/10/09

      Elizabeth David’s 1955 piece if inspirational writing isn’t that long actually but we get the point.Give more power to Stepahine’s arm,in fact clone her,start ‘em young and lets see where we are in a decade.Train more “Foodies’ to train others..it’s a great program to assist the older generations.Waste of time,effort and air preaching to the populace,whatever their class or income.

    • RT says:

      07:54am | 28/10/09

      Well, we could give up on fat people and just build things bigger: turnstiles like the one in the picture, seats on planes and trains, doorways, toilets etc. Of course if we abandon the attempt to persuade the obese to downsize and the healthy to not upsize, it will cost our health system a bomb, but what the hell - just put a fat tax on food and alcohol. The more you snarf and guzzle up, the more you pay, but the more goes into the health system to look after you when your heart, hips, knees, kidneys etc give out under the self-imposed strain.

      I intend to remain slim. I just hope that I don’t get literally squeezed out in the increasing mass of tubby, chubby fellow citizens.

      Russell - I live in Haberfield. I’m not happy to see a Maccas built here or anywhere else, but I might be willing to make an exception to my opposition if one of their outlets was proposed to go next to yours.

    • Lee-Anne says:

      07:51am | 28/10/09

      A precedent has been set ......smokers…...and the associated campaigns of making smokers social outcasts, .so any group of people are now ‘fair game’. I’m not siding with smokers, just my observation of the whole process. I was wondering when another group of people would socially constructed as outcasts. I wonder which group will be next after the obese. Its usually the middle class who perpetrate such actions, the squeakiest wheel gets the most attention, oh and it makes some of their roles/jobs seem much more important.

    • Russell says:

      06:52am | 28/10/09

      You couldn’t get a clearer example of this attitude than the current “foodie fury” at Haberfield over a proposed McDonalds. Not in the “village”, but on busy, noisy Parramatta Rd. An orchestrated campaign of outrage bombarded the local newspaper’s website, much of it class based and and quite literally gob-smacking. Here’s the link.
      http://inner-west-courier.whereilive.com.au/news/story/residents-oppose-haberfield-maccas1/
      And a here’s a summary:  Steven “Can you imagine the typical customer?”Then ominously, “Does anyone remember the Stanmore shootings?”
      Paul knowingly advised us to google axe-weilding bandits and McDonalds.
      Phil was more direct. “This will devalue my property significantly and attract an element not fitting with the culture of the community.” 
      Felicia was scared. “ I will not feel as secure walking around my area. I don’t like to speak of stereotypes, but…”
      Obesity and anti-social behaviour came up a lot, Sarah was no longer able to let her children play in the park and Penny was just worried about “contamination” from the “big ugly yellow ‘M’ in the sky.
      And so it went, for nearly 50 comments. Read it and weep.
      By the next week a bit of sanity prevailed. But not much.
      http://inner-west-courier.whereilive.com.au/news/story/celebs-in-foodie-fury/

    • paul says:

      06:42am | 28/10/09

      Education would be the way to go Penbo except you assume that many of these households are somehow functional enough to buy groceries or cook. Type 2 diabetes will actually reduce life spans in this country at a time (say 2020-2040) when Australia will be slugged with already overwhelming healthcare bills from LONG lived baby boomers. We are then, in fact,  subsidizing the profits of these multinationals because they will not pay the healthcare costs of their products.(same with ciggies) Neither will most of the fat people pay. It’s the healthy people that actually pay for cheap,‘profitable’ c-grade food. In part, fats and sugars are poison and nearly as deadly and costly as nicotine. And companies spend the lionshare of marketing budgets on fatty sugary products NOT fruit and vege. Follow the money and the costs. The gov wants to fight al quaida but not fat -doesn’t make sense. Fatwa time!

 

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