The polls show that he is the people’s choice for prime minister.

Cartoon: Warren Brown

And Kevin Rudd believes that, if the Labor Party still has a soul, it will soon heed the will of the people by committing an act of mass contrition, recognising that the factions were wrong, and reinstalling him to the job he secured so comprehensively at the 2007 election.

Rudd’s mind at the moment is driven by two things. One is personal, the other is pragmatic.

The personal stuff goes to his unyielding disgust shared obviously by many voters at the events of June last year where a democratically elected prime minister was removed not by the public who put him there, but by some faceless men whom the public couldn’t identify in a line-up.

His pragmatic assessment goes to his belief shared by pretty much everyone inside the Caucus and a vast majority of the voting public that Labor will not win the next election under Julia Gillard.

That is, not just lose the election but get utterly smashed, with MPs in safe seats being turfed and Labor unable to even cobble together a viable opposition in the aftermath.

Rudd is trying to adopt a Zen-like approach to the leadership question and at this stage is not even preparing for a challenge.

He views his possible return as the politics of contrition, whereby the impetus for change comes from within Caucus itself.

It is a myth that Rudd has no backers within Caucus. The number is the subject of fierce debate; Gillard’s people think they can be counted on less than one hand, and that the current festering coverage is the result of a tiny, embittered rump of troublemakers, and also the work of Rudd himself.

The one factor which can force a sudden and dramatic switch in the numbers is the thing which motivates politicians of every ideological hue—the prospect of an unavoidable defeat, where you not only lose government but you lose your seat and job.

Rudd is banking on the collective recognition of this political reality.

He is then hoping that the process for change can be put in place with just one of the so-called faceless men admitting publicly, or even making it known internally, that in hindsight the coup of June 2010 was a mistake, that the voters had never copped it, felt dudded and disenfranchised, and that it is now time to put things right.

His reading of Caucus is that there is really only a hard core of about 15 MPs who are rusted on the serious factional leaders: Stephen Conroy, Bill Shorten and David Feeney in Victoria, Wayne Swan in Queensland, Mark Arbib in NSW and Don Farrell in South Australia.

Beyond them Rudd sees two other groups - the MPs who have always been loyal and friendly to him, and the MPs who got swept along in last year’s coup and have never been comfortable about what happened.

With a Caucus of 104 - a Caucus which knows it is going to lose - Rudd is quietly optimistic at the prospect of winning majority support.

The only real obstacle to his return, aside from Gillard’s grim determination to stay in the top job, is the candidacy of Stephen Smith.

It’s not being driven by Smith, who is a loyal team-player, but by the grouping around Stephen Conroy in Victoria, which helped engineer Rudd’s demise and would do anything to thwart his return.

Team Rudd believes that Smith’s leadership would be forever tainted by his status as the faceless men’s candidate for the top job, which they say is the very thing which got the party into strife in the first place.

Bill Shorten is not considered an option, especially after he said on Friday that he would “never, ever” lead the Labor Party, two words which hold a special place in Australian politics and are hard to come back from.

The one remaining factor which Rudd sees as an obstacle to his return is the suspicion within Caucus that it would be payback time under his prime ministership and that every person who dumped him last year would be on the receiving end of Rudd’s retribution.

So to this end, Rudd is billing himself as a conciliatory figure who can draw a line under the acrimony of the past and simply assemble the best possible team to put Labor back in a winning position.

He expects that neither Gillard nor Wayne Swan would want to serve on his frontbench but that he could craft a working relationship with everyone else. His thinking on the issue is advanced.

The issue is not going to go away.

It makes life almost impossible for Julia Gillard who is possibly one wavering factional warrior away from being a backbencher.

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    • Alf says:

      08:28am | 06/11/11

      “Rudd’s mind at the moment is driven by two things. One is personal, the other is pragmatic.”

      Third thing = an ego the size of a small country.

    • X Labor Voter says:

      08:40am | 06/11/11

      The next election will be lost by Labor no matter who is their leader - I’m hoping for the quiet man to get the job - Stephen Smith.

    • Max, of Rocky says:

      11:10am | 06/11/11

      Another sacrifice, kill off the potential leaders.

      Put Rudd back in and have him totally rejected at the election, Smith then will have a better (and fairer run).

    • LJ Dots says:

      12:45pm | 06/11/11

      I agree with your proposal X but would rather see it’s implementation done as Max of Rocky suggests. I would be hard pressed to give the nod to either Gillard or Rudd, I could however, vote for Smith.

    • sunny says:

      07:02pm | 06/11/11

      If Stephen Smith was leadership material he would have thrown his two-bob in well before his hair went grey! Can’t you see?Julia - yeah sure she has an annoying voice but-  she has real substance (unlike Rudd) and is a great leader.

    • nihonin says:

      08:40am | 06/11/11

      He needs to be returned to the Prime Ministership doesn’t he David, so his ‘manhood’ won’t be questioned, eh.  Bit surprised you didn’t start this article the same as last weeks.

    • The Galah from Hervey Bay says:

      09:05am | 06/11/11

      Meanwhile…...back at the the blazing wreckage called Australia ......

    • RyaN says:

      12:35pm | 06/11/11

      @Dodge: so you Labor stooges keep saying, the people on the other hand are feeling the real world. How bout you come around to the real world Dodge, oh I forgot, you can’t look out of your Labor office further than the door.

    • Against the Man says:

      03:10pm | 06/11/11

      Oh look the moderators have let Dodge break the Punch posting rules. Hope they will correct this mistake.

    • Chris L says:

      03:51pm | 06/11/11

      @RyaN - Euromoney might not represent the “real world” so much, but that and our bullet dodging economy speak somewhat for our position I think. Is there any evidence that our country is “blazing wreckage”? Sounds like hyperbole to me.

    • Nite Lite says:

      03:52pm | 06/11/11

      @ Dodge: The Govt loves followers like you that believe everything you are told. You love the sanitized happy version versus reality. Is Australia broke? No way, not saying that but many are feeling pinched and we could end up there. For instance the current Qantas issue is a good example. What happens when a massive freight train cruises towards a giant solid granite mountain…well there are no winners. Similar to high wage unions and free trade. In the end normally free trade wins since its too crippling to capitulate to protectionism and the current high wages that Australia brags about. You see the Labor govt knows this but do you think they actually want to talk about it? You must also realize that everything comes in cycles. Historically the US has boomed in the past but it is now wallowing in a bust. Triggers to a bust are hard to predict but imagine if Chinas economy lagged and they went into protection mode and enacted import taxes and slowed coal purchases at the cost of its population. Yes it has and yes it would if it needed to. Currently Australia is not suffering but lets keep it in perspective…there are 2 US states with bigger economies…

    • Martin says:

      04:00pm | 06/11/11

      ATM, these rules only apply on the weekends.

    • Christian Real says:

      04:43pm | 06/11/11

      Wayne(the galah from Hervey Bay)
      The wreckage appears to be in the Queensland LNP, why are candidates looking at defecting to Bob Katter’s Australia Party .
      Did you read the story and weep, it was in today’s Sunday Mail.

    • Tory Shepherd

      Tory Shepherd says:

      05:20pm | 06/11/11

      Whoops, deleted!

    • RyaN says:

      09:11am | 07/11/11

      @Chris L: Try getting out in the community and actually taking to the people, you know the ones that Labor couldn’t give a flying toss about.

    • Dodge says:

      01:49pm | 07/11/11

      Seriously? Because of ‘t*rd’. That’s touchy, but ok noted.

      Oh and caveats, exceptions, chinese economy…. Facts are facts, Aus economy rocks the boat (no pun intended). I suppose China just have ‘millions and millions’ of people (hell, they might all die one day), or if the US post world war 2 didn’t have their industry heavy economy they’d have been nothing as well.

      There’s always reasons for the state of a given economy - and countries live and die based on the decisions to take advantage of such things as an upswing in nations requiring your resources - for instance.

    • The Galah from Hervey Bay says:

      02:04pm | 07/11/11

      Christian Real…get real Christian !  Shane Knuths seat will be won by the new L.N.P. candidate .
      Incidently…. Labor will be lucky if they have 10 seats in the parliament when the dust settles.
      Are you voting for the Gaylord. ?

    • Andrew says:

      09:07am | 06/11/11

      I guess you are just much smarter than me, David—when it comes to the prime ministership, I don’t know what is going on in Kevin Rudd’s mind at all and it puzzles me deeply that you (and others) seem so certain that you do. It is as if I am lacking some basic human sense that others take for granted. But I accept it—I have slowly been coming to the conclusion that I have spent decades overestimating my own intelligence. Congratulations.

    • Julia says:

      09:13am | 06/11/11

      Yeh right David,  and this all takes place in Fantasy Land which is right next door to 7.30 Land.

    • jb says:

      09:22am | 06/11/11

      Juliar certainly picked the wrong time to go away, The old Ruddster will be in overdrive drumming up support.
      My thought would be dump Juliar bring in Honest Kev, let him lose the next election but save a few seats then just before the next election when he is on the nose replace him with the Smith.
      Why waste that talent now only to have him leader of the opposition…

    • Richard says:

      10:35am | 06/11/11

      For sneerious? C’mon, lets be objective: Stephen Smith is hardly a “talent”. I mean, think rationally for a second, the guy has all the personality of a 3 brm brick house in the suburbs. He is as bland as they come. And you know I used to think he was a good foreign minister, but now I realise looking back that PM Rudd was just such a foreing policy virtuoso, that he basically just assumed all the important parts of Stephen Smith’s role de facto and did them for him, making him look good in the process.

      But compare Smith’s performance as Defence Minister against Greg Combet for instance, its night and day. Smith is a terrible minister, and highly ineffectual as well. Basically all he’s done is overreact to the ADFA skype sex scandal and cave in to feminist pressure to let female troops fight on the front lines. What a wet sock! The fact that he is being seriously touted as a potential Labor leader and PM speaks a lot about the absolute dearth of talent in the ALP (barring KRudd and GCombet imo).

    • jb says:

      12:30pm | 06/11/11

      But Richard he’s the only one in the ALP that doesn’t talk like a westy, in fact I’m pretty sure he’s the only one there that doesn’t refer to a bathroom as a the dunny…

    • sunny says:

      08:10pm | 06/11/11

      F**k me get a dose of reality everyone. Kevin Rudd is a shell of a politician. He has as much chance of being PM again as Kim Kardashian has of being truly happy. Adjust.

    • Keith says:

      09:26am | 06/11/11

      With Rudd previously acknowledged as the worst PM in Australia’s history, until Gillard stole his crown, why would anybody within Labor ranks consider him as an option? Their collective errors in judgement have cost the taxpayers billions of dollars, with the latest letting of a $200 million contract without going to tender to shore up another multimillion dollar farce in the “Malaysian solution” being one of the worst.

    • Andrew says:

      10:14am | 06/11/11

      Who acknowledged him as such? Did you ask your cat?

    • jb says:

      12:32pm | 06/11/11

      Ahhhhh Andrew pretty sure the ALP themselves acknowledged that hence the mid winter knifing… sheesh you lot live in denial!

    • Gough says:

      12:40pm | 06/11/11

      I did>

    • RyaN says:

      12:46pm | 06/11/11

      @Andrew: Pretty much most of Australia. Oh and China, the same ones who sent delegates to Copenhagen only to be insulted by being called “Rat Fuckers” by Rudd

    • Martin says:

      01:31pm | 06/11/11

      John Howard is acknowledged as the worst PM in Australia’s history.

    • Martin says:

      02:25pm | 06/11/11

      What really annoys Labor wafflers is that the two longest serving PM’s are Liberals. They were rewarded with long terms for doing things well.

      Worthless PM’s such as Whitlam, Rudd and Gillard were and will be rewarded with swift kicks in the pants. This is because of the utter mess they made in 3 or 4 short years.

      In days gone by, when one wanted to speak of hopelessness in government, Gough was invariably carted out as the pinnacle. In years to come Gillard will wear this crown.

      What an utter embarrassement these Labor PM’s have been.

    • Joombi O'Flaherty says:

      02:48pm | 06/11/11

      I agree with you Martin

    • Martin says:

      02:50pm | 06/11/11

      What really annoys Liberal wafflers is that John Howard is the only Australian PM in history to ever lose his own seat and not win it back.

    • Tator says:

      06:41pm | 06/11/11

      Martin,
      what a pointless statement.  Howard was going to retire after the 2007 election anyway, why would he attempt a return after his 71st birthday considering that he had achieved most of what he set out to do in politics.  For comparison, Stanley Bruce was a lot younger at 50 years when he won back his seat in 1931.

    • Martin says:

      07:39pm | 06/11/11

      @ tator Why would Howard have contested the seat if “he was going to retire after the 2007 election anyway”?
      Much more important, of course, is the fact that he lost his seat as an incumbent PM, which is one of the reasons he’s acknowledged as the worst PM in Australia’s history.

    • George says:

      07:51am | 07/11/11

      @ Martin

      I totally agree!  Somehow JWH losing his Federal seat to an ABC left wing flunkie took a lot of gloss from an otherwise stellar career.

      However labelling JWH worst PM in Australia’s history…aw c’moooon!

    • Damocles says:

      08:03am | 07/11/11

      @ Martin…“one of the reasons he’s acknowledged as the worst PM in Australia’s history.” Acknowledged by whom? By you? By Labor? By Greens? Well, what would we expect from the clueless? What a load of rubbish!

    • Martin says:

      09:05am | 07/11/11

      @ damocles   Have a good listen to this.

    • Anthony of WA says:

      09:31am | 06/11/11

      All the ALP’s current problems were started by Rudd or at least under his leadership, Gillard has just compounded them. But basically it is the ALP who is the issue, so no matter who leads nothing will change. Until the ALP changes and selects representatives who actually represent the people

    • Brian B says:

      01:35pm | 06/11/11

      I agree Anthony.

      Your last sentence sums it up. The Labor fronts bench has become, almost exclusively, a collection of ex trade union officials and ex Ministerial advisors.

      Big problem.

    • Fran Smith says:

      09:41am | 06/11/11

      Who cares who leads the morally-bankrupt ALP. The fact is that the Coalition will rightfully win the next election and everything will return to the way it was meant to be. Why anyone voted for labor at the last election is mind boggling.

    • Chris L says:

      03:55pm | 06/11/11

      Much better to just do away with democracy and let those born to rule do their job, eh Fran?

    • powermax says:

      06:09pm | 06/11/11

      Frau Smith, I thought you wanted the people’s princess (krudd) returned or is all that carping about his knifing by Jules just part of LNP pot stirring?

    • Against the Man says:

      10:05am | 06/11/11

      Now here is the tricky bit. Rudd needs to get in soon, because he has to start selling his policies and the image of his new government if he wants to save as many seats as possible. He isn’t going to win the next election but he can make it less of a massacre! So he has to do it soon, wait 6 months and it will be a pointless gesture. Wait 3 months and he doesn’t have time to gain any significant momentum. Do it before X’mas and we may have a chance to see if the millionaire ex-real PM can sell a better ALP to the masses. Juliar has destroyed the ALP brand beyond repair, maybe Rudd can prove that to be untrue but he has to act fast…...........also the CT factor isn’t out of the woods if that blows up all bets are off. It must be really sad being an ALP fan at this point in time, knowing that the party is just plain old dog shit of its own doing.

    • nossy says:

      11:04am | 06/11/11

      @Against the Man   what happened to all your smiley faces you used to use ATM - things getting bad for Tones huh?  hahahah Tony will never be PM fella - Australians simply dont trust him.

    • Against the Man says:

      11:27am | 06/11/11

      nossy, you’re so right, I should have had a smiley face, after all the destruction of the ALP by its own PMs (real and fake) is pretty funny. As for Tony, his in the lead so I guess he must be doing everything right huh? But I guess if that is the best response you have for my comment, I clearly see the minority ALPers are in need of quality members smile

      ps: Did you check your cc statement lately? smile

    • nossy says:

      01:34pm | 06/11/11

      @Against the Man   I can tell by your shrill posts lately ATM you are indeed a worried man - and with Abbott at the helm of the Coalition, universally unpopular, why wouldnt you be fella. Looking forward to more “desperate” posts from you ATM - hhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • Tory Shepherd

      Tory Shepherd says:

      05:21pm | 06/11/11

      Chill out, you two.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:56pm | 06/11/11

      Wait, I stopped replying ages ago and my only reply was polite (cause I actually feel sorry for nossy). Looks like you might need a holiday Tory.

    • St. Michael says:

      05:33pm | 07/11/11

      Tory, stop quoting Arnold Schwarzenegger from his iconic role as Mr Freeze in “Batman and Robin”.  It gives me all kinds of terrible images. smile

    • Govt@FauxCitizen says:

      10:09am | 06/11/11

      You know something wih relevant specicivity, KRudds the reason we’re in the mess we had to have, the only good that’s come out of all this wheeling and dealing is the amateurs and asassins have all been exposed as weak dreamers unable to make the tough calls that’s required for true leadership.

      ” hello, minister Evans”
      “it’s Allan Joyce ”
      “whadda ya want? it’s Saturday an I’m at me sons criciket match”
      “sorry to bother you but I’m gunna shut down the national airline in a few hours”
      “fucken leprechaun”
      “what was dat”
      “fucken big call”
      “well dats why, I called ya”
      “you do what ya gotta do sport, I’m busy right now but I’ll let the boss know, seeya”
      “hello juliar speaking”
      “hey Jools the fucken leprachaun is shuttin up shop at qwanas, that mick’s got balls, fancy ringin me on a Saturday”
      ” he’s only bluffin, he woodin dare, and if he does we’ll blame it on Abbott on Monday or something and make another one of those smoke screen thingies, it’s my weekend too ya know!! ”

    • Audra Blue says:

      12:47pm | 07/11/11

      I nearly snorted coffee out my nose laughing at this.

      Comedy gold!  Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

    • Kurisu Sonsaku says:

      10:12am | 06/11/11

      I think i’ll get some popcorn and watch the pretty colours as the alp crashes and burns.

    • Sickemrex says:

      11:57am | 06/11/11

      Train wreck NSW ALP on a national scale. It was all popcorn and beers watching it unfold over the border but not so funny now.

      If the above mind-reading is correct, do we all get a memory wipe so we can pretend the last 17 months didn’t happen?

    • Joan says:

      05:05pm | 06/11/11

      Rudd`s doing Gillard in slowly - the Tony Sheldon way. Rudds doing her in reeeeal slowwww. Rudd enjoying watching her wriggle and squirm and looking over her shoulder- every Rudd press conference sends a nervous twitch and laugh through Gillard- we have all seen it - the same way we heard and saw her big No Carbon Tax lie.  She deserves to get done slowly and she will be done. .

    • Janelle says:

      10:34am | 06/11/11

      No one can lead Labor to victory at the next election. Labor are gone!
      Rudd? Gillard? who cares…............................

    • Horns Up says:

      10:40am | 06/11/11

      Whatever they need to do to keep Tony Abbott out or to put Malcom Turnbull into the lodge is fine by me!

      \m/

    • mick says:

      10:52am | 06/11/11

      The same comments from the same liberal party plants.

      Opinion and opposition are what this website are all about, not the offensive, mindless ongoing attacks from those put here to discredit any other party other than the failed Liberal Party with its Work Choices platform.  Never a discussion, never a policy, just attack, attack, attack.  Just like the clone who spawned them. 

      Come on guys….get a life, find a real job and remember that ultimately it is not about politics, it is about creating a nation where wealth is able to be earned by all, not just the big end of town which is so unashamedly represented by the liberal side of politics.  Are you guys really Australians or maybe you need to look offshore for a home which better suits your destructive talents.

      And just to short circuit the same old crap…..I do not support Labor, do not vote Labor.  What I do support is the interests of hard working Australians who deserve better than they are going to get should one Tony Abbott get in at the next election.

    • Nick says:

      02:41pm | 06/11/11

      “its about creating a nation where wealth is able to be earned by all”
      and how prey do you think the government is going to do that? perhaps we could have the Unions running the country and they can slowly bake all the businesses so as to redistribute the wealth?
      Oh I forgot,the Unions are already in government…
      Fools and their ideals are hard to separate.

    • RyaN says:

      10:09am | 07/11/11

      @mick: “..I do not support Labor, do not vote Labor.” -cough- commie Greens then?

      Oh and here is the same old line I always post to help the uneducated who still make silly unsubstantiated claims they heard from some thick Labor minister.. http://liberal.org.au/policies Again no need to thank me, its implied wink

    • onlooker says:

      11:00am | 06/11/11

      I don’t like Tony Abbot he is too negative and he keeps changing his mind on what he stands for, and I don’t like Julia Gillard , I will vote Labor if the bring back Rudd. But on saying that I think..gee what a rotten job, trying to clean this mess up, its a big ask of anyone. I do like Malcome Turnbull too, he seems to me to be a man principle, so I would have no problem voting for him either. I know we should vote for the party but to me the man or woman at the top reflects the party, so I just vote for who like combined with the policy that is best for me. At the moment , I can’t see much light in the tunnel

    • Martin says:

      11:29am | 06/11/11

      We have already heard the rumblings about a before Christmas move on Gillard. The most likely scenario is Rudd reinstated and then go to an election in his honeymoon period, that way they can campaign on the basis of cutting ties with the Greens, Wilke and the Carbon Tax. This strategy is the only one that would give them any chance at all.

    • Against the Man says:

      12:17pm | 06/11/11

      Agree, this is what Kev/ALP need to do? Do they have the balls to do it?

    • Martin says:

      12:38pm | 06/11/11

      @ATM, well with people like nossy in the ALP, anything is possible, although knowing nossy he’d probably want to give Garrett a go citing his appeal to the Green vote.

    • nossy says:

      01:40pm | 06/11/11

      @Martin martin martin martin what are we going to do with you fella - I mean there must be a job out there for you somewhere - ohh heres one “Baggage Handler” $8 an hour , formerly$16 an hour - could you “handle ” that one Martin?

    • Bomb78 says:

      02:45pm | 06/11/11

      Nossy - not sure how $16 an hour get you anywhere near what a baggage handler earns - try something approaching $40 an hour to be on the ball. Or are you using on of those ALP ‘promise surplus, deliver deficit’ calculators?

    • Against the Man says:

      03:06pm | 06/11/11

      Seeing as nossy is part of a minority of this country that still supports Labor and also seeing as nossy comes across less than stable, I’m not too worried. I guess when nossy and the rest of the ALP minority start making sense…...well than we’ll be in trouble. But seeing as they have the combined IQ of Lloyd Christmas, the results of the next federal election is already a landslide victory for the LNP.

      You want proof here it is…............Carbon tax anyone? wink

    • nossy says:

      04:03pm | 06/11/11

      @Against The Man you mean this Carbon Tax in the clip where Abbott is waxing lyrical about it being implemented a couple of years ago?  hahahahha come out slowy with your hands up ATM - we have you surrounded fella!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12PN66IBoPs

    • scubasteve says:

      04:51pm | 06/11/11

      @ Martin ‘...he’d probably want to give Garrett a go citing his appeal to the Green vote.”

      Garrett approved a Pulp Mill in Tasmania, a desalt plant in VIC and a Uranium mine in SA.
      On top of that he ran the ‘Blue-sky’ insulation company. He has no credibility… anywhere.
      i agree, give him a run.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:53pm | 06/11/11

      I’m talking about the carbon tax Gillard said she wouldn’t implement under a government she leads. Guess even you don’t except her as the real PM if you seem so focused on Abbott wink

    • OchreBunyip says:

      07:49am | 07/11/11

      I’m not sure Rudd will get a honeymoon period. Whether you believe Rudd is better or worse as an ALP PM aside, replacing their leader with the one they axed is unlikely to win votes. What it will do is demonstrate to the public that the true Labor leaders, the faceless men, don’t know what they are doing. That will reflect poorly on the those Labor leaders the public can see.

      Taking a mid-term view, I think the faceless men are planning for a return to government after two LNP/Green terms, using the time to groom a leader to replace both Rudd and Gillard and build some credibility with the public. Who is in power from year to year only matters to the public.

    • Adam Diver says:

      11:57am | 06/11/11

      Not a bad article Penbo, but I wish journalist would speak in hypotheticals rather than peoples inner thoughts.

      Unless Rudd helped pen this I question the validity of statements such as

      “He expects that neither Gillard nor Wayne Swan would want to serve on his frontbench but that he could craft a working relationship with everyone else. His thinking on the issue is advanced.”

      Hypothesising n others thoughts is not journalism and its not even opinion, its simply gossip.

      On the topic at hand, could the ALP admit complete failure anymore, then by turning back to the original screw-up? Its beyond comical.

    • Thank You Very Much says:

      12:00pm | 06/11/11

      On Saturday September 22, 2013 , Kevin Michael Rudd will celebrate his 55th birthday with a Labor federal election victory at the very next federal election.

    • Against the Man says:

      12:20pm | 06/11/11

      The Punch has to award this the ‘Funniest Comment of the Year’ Award! smile Good to see that people can still have fun with all this ALP chaos.

    • ruddite says:

      12:34pm | 06/11/11

      Kev was born 21 September 1957 which means he’ll be 56 in 2013
      I like the bit about him having an election victory though

    • Martin says:

      01:35pm | 06/11/11

      Yes the election victory will be in his own seat. It will be the only seat held by the ALP in QLD.

    • Alf says:

      02:55pm | 06/11/11

      Jasper and Abey will be the only winners. Dad will be home for good. Walkies every day…

    • Catching up says:

      01:01pm | 06/11/11

      Has there ever been a leader, including Mr. Menzies and Mr. Howard that had one hundred percent support.  I suggest not.

      Mr. Rudd was removed by caucus.  Yes he stepped down after finding out very quickly he did not have the numbers.  He had no chance o fwinning.  It is unknown what numers he had, but it is believed to be small.

      No one else in the union movement or Labor party to remove any PM.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      01:13pm | 06/11/11

      That Kevin Rudd is more popular that Julia Gillard is a given. The one & only reason she has not been deposed by Paul Howes wtc. is that there simply is no-one suitable. Her sole advantage over Rudd is that she can, even if she changes her mind as often as I change my underwear, speak reasonable & reasonably intelligent Australian-English.
      When it comes to the use of the spoken word Kevin Rudd is a 100% embarrassment. It was bad enough when he actually spent a bit of time in Australia but since our very own Million Dollar man became Foreign Minister he has spent most of his time overseas bringing much-deserved scorn on himself & more importantly & embarrassingly the impression he has given that most Australians are ignorant, uneducated yobs.
      Why is he popular?
      When, arguably, the most popular PM this country has ever had over the last 50+ years the loveable, larrikinesque Bob Hawke got shat upon by the foul-mouthed, sarcastic Paul Keating,(despite that I loved him) there was hardly a murmur from the public. Why?
      Yet we have the mangler who was fast slipping in the polls - though never as low as Gillard has sunk to so far - was, reportedly, loathed by the ALP, the Unions & all those who worked for him & he is still preferred as PM to Gillard. Why?
      OK, so many were offended & outraged at the way in which Julia Gillard manipulated Rudd’s downfall but it all took place, politically, a long time ago. It is time we all got over it Loyalty is a fine characteuristic but blind loyalty is absurd. For better or worse (it would seem now for the worse) we have the most indecisive, inept & politically loathed Prime Minister ever in Julia Gillard.
      If people don’t want her then there is the ballot box in just under 2 years when we can toss her out, put the ALP into Opposition, where just as they did during the Howard Years, they can & will vote against every single piece of legislation brought on. A few terms in Opposition will be a bonus for the ALP for they will be able to sort themselves out, get some decent MPs who are not simply ALP Party hacks or Union reps being rewarded for presumed services to the Party/Unions.
      With new blood we might get a decent Leader with a loyal deputy & with policies which did not have theri entire basis predicated on borrowing untold billions for future generations to pay off.

    • Chris Allen says:

      04:39pm | 06/11/11

      “she can, even if she changes her mind as often as I change my underwear, speak reasonable & reasonably intelligent Australian-English.”

      Its not Australian-English” its “Patronising Crass Australian”.

    • Peter says:

      02:49pm | 06/11/11

      The only hope for Labor is to re invent itself and connect with ordinary Australians who are no longer affiliated with the Union movement.Get rid of those ex Union ministers who are currently running the country on behalf of the unions who represent less than 20% of Australians and replace them people who will represent the interests of their constituents.

    • Alf says:

      03:02pm | 06/11/11

      “Her sole advantage over Rudd is that she can…. speak reasonably intelligent Australian-English.”

      Is that roit? Most Orstralans won’t agree. She sounds like a librarian on valium.

    • Hermano says:

      07:47am | 07/11/11

      The librarians of Australia take umbrage at your comment.

    • nossy says:

      03:09pm | 06/11/11

      Well Tory has, and quite correctly, emailed me and said “nossy you have to stop being rude to those poor Liberals on the blog” and so out of sympathy I will address each and everyone with great respect, even though we all know many are 1st rate wankers!  hahah see Tory I didnt call anyone any names - directly. All good?

    • splash the cash says:

      04:41pm | 06/11/11

      Hey nossy,
      yes but you do know whats worse than wankers though.
              and that is a bunch of men that hide behind a ..........

    • Alf says:

      07:38pm | 06/11/11

      @splash.

      ... woman… Like Gillard.

    • John says:

      06:04pm | 06/11/11

      a politician is like car tire, once it gets worn out it gets replaced.
      Just like at Bush and Obama their tread has been wasted. Gillards tires have now gone beyond illegal! The reality is the west needs to start thinking harder, it’s not the tire! it’s the driver! Find out who are the puppet masters to find the source of the guilty parties.

    • PW says:

      07:18pm | 06/11/11

      An interesting journey into the mind of Kevin Rudd in the early part of this article. Unforrtunetely, David, you have about as much clue of what Rudd is thinking as I do, and I haven’t even thought about it.

      Labor blundered booting Rudd before the last election. But that blunder is nothing compared with the blunder changing leaders again now would be.

      My feeling is that Gillard will lead Labor into the next election. I am not so sure Abbott will be her opponent though.

    • say it again says:

      07:29pm | 06/11/11

      Asylum Seeker update
      LNP opts for onshore processing - Oct. 13, 2011
      Oct. 19, 2011 - 51
      Oct. 22, 2011 - 15
      Oct. 23, 2011 - 79 + 44
      Nov. 01, 2011 – 92
      Nov. 02, 2011 – 49
      Nov, 06, 2011 - 56

      Totals
      Abbott 386
      Gillard 000

      Those that died attempting to achieve Abbott’s preferred on-shore processing 17 and perhaps more.
      The number of boats heading to Australia from Indonesia is increasing following Abbott’s refusal to support off-shore processing and his embracing onshore processing as the LNP asylum seeker solution.

      Abbott, encouraging desperate people to make the dangerous journey is symptomatic of the lengths he will go to for power

    • RyaN says:

      04:58pm | 07/11/11

      @say it again: You sound ever so desperate. How offensive that you think we are so stupid not to realised who dismantled the pacific solution, you know the one that stopped the boats.

    • Alf says:

      10:14pm | 06/11/11

      You can say that again.

      Under Howard - one asylum seeker in 2002. One boat and 53 asylum seekers in 2003. In 2008, with Rudd at the helm, there were seven boats, 161 people, and in 2009 there were 61 boats and 2849 people. 2010 there were 134 boats and 6879 people. So far this year, 50 boats 3129 people.

    • palone says:

      10:39pm | 06/11/11

      How would Mirabella go as Leader of the Opps? She has style, she is a glamorous lady with a charitable concern for the elderly and the infirm, (body and mind), she strongly supports wealth re-distribution, and is a brilliant debater.
      She leaves Abbott dead in the compassion stakes, and has been known to open her house up to the underpriveliged.
      Her strongest attribute is probably her deep concern for, and understanding of, innovation. Time and time again she has represented people in her own electorate who may have had a “great idea” for the future of Australia. She doesn’t care whether those Aussies are Libs, Nats, Labor, Greens, or Communists, she will go to bat for them. She’s a real trouper.
      Hang on, I’ve just been told I’ve forgotten my medication. Sorry about that.

    • Logic says:

      07:39am | 07/11/11

      I don’t believe the polls - it’s just that there’s no one else to vote for.  Whatever happens, Labor will lose the next election whoever is in the Lodge.

    • Debbie says:

      09:12pm | 07/11/11

      The polls only ask who would you prefer, Julia Gillard or Kevin Rudd. Its like asking would I prefer to be shot or poisoned. I think right now if you asked the public who would you prefer, Julia Gillard or my dog Oscar, I think my dog Oscar would win!

    • onlooker says:

      07:49am | 07/11/11

      I will vote for Rudd but not for Gillard. I would vote for Turnbull but not for Abbott. Failing that I am putting in a donkey vote because I don’t like either leader.

    • Alf says:

      08:34am | 07/11/11

      @onlooker. Perhaps you should take up judging beauty pageants instead of voting. It isn’t all about one person.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      10:06am | 07/11/11

      It’s sad, very sad that our first female PM was so bad and such an embarrassment. She has single handily destroyed any possibility of another female being PM in the foreseeable future. From a strictly female perspective, the only saving grace is the bar couldn’t get any lower. 

      As far as Kevie is concerned, the bar is so low that a drover’s dog would do a better job as PM. The problem is Kevie carries baggage, big baggage. Also, he is not a leader, he is a highly intelligent bureaucrat who wants and will buy the UN job. Neither the previous PM nor current PM cut it as far as I’m concerned. Hanging onto these two is shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.

      Desperate times call for desperate action - Stephen Smith.

    • Audra Blue says:

      02:28pm | 07/11/11

      I saw Jessica Rudd being interviewed on telly the other night.  Put her in as PM, she sounds like an absolute winner.  I would vote for her in a second.

    • Hammy The Hamster says:

      12:34pm | 07/11/11

      Rudd will get back into the top job.  Then he will take his political machete to the party and hack to bits the people who cost him the job.  So it will be goodbye Gillard.  And Abbott will remain safely in his hole where he belongs.

      If I were Rudd, I would go Predator on the Labor Party’s arse.  They certainly could use a thinning of the deadwood.

    • Lizard of Oz says:

      01:09pm | 07/11/11

      Penbo, be interested on your thoughts of Gillard sacking Rudd. At the moment she is seen as lacking in courage and indecisive. This one move would be a roll of the dice scenario but overnight she would be seen as at least decisive and in control - she cant keep going on with Rudd whiteanting as foreign minister and making her look weak and indecisive. let him whiteant from the backbenches. Ministers have been sacked for less in the past - his exorbitant travel alone is reason enough - haul his travel in, demand loyalty, if he doesnt obey, sack him, pretty simple. tell the Australian public honestly that his lack of loyalty is causing instability in her cabinet and call his bluff he wont call a by-election. if he does, big deal, shes gonna get thumped anyway and punters will be glad she took decisive action to bring this side-show to an end. thoughts?

 

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