Political predictions usually come with a face-saving asterisk, or an alarming promise that you will drop your pants in Martin Place if they don’t come true.

Rudd claims victory in 2007 - similar scenes likely in a few month's time.

We’ll try to avoid both here – especially the second you’ll be relieved to hear – and instead offer a dispassionate snapshot of the federal political scene as Parliament resumes today for this election year.

It’s not based on today’s Newspoll which shows that Tony Abbott - who unlike Malcolm Turnbull offers a much clearer alternative to Labor especially on climate change - has helped the Libs sneak ahead in the primary vote while still falling short of winning office. Nor is it some bid to spoil Rudd’s attempt to claim underdog status with his pep-talk to MPs yesterday where he warned that Labor could lose. 

It’s based on the off the record opinions of politicians themselves, Labor and Liberal, who for the main part do not believe that Kevin Rudd has gone so badly that he will be chucked out after just one term.

It’s also based on our own reading of the major issues confronting voters today, by following discussion on newspaper websites, opinion websites, talkback radio and the letters pages, as well as the major polls which are still uniformly pointing to the re-election of the Rudd Government.

I’ve split the rationale for predicting Rudd’s return into five categories – after which you’re free to log and say why I’ll be made to look like a fool come polling day, if not by lunchtime. Obviously the election is a way off - at least two months off and probably at least six months off - so a lot can happen. But this is my take on where things are at now.
 
1. The education reforms are really popular.

As a slogan, “The Education Revolution” might be a bit bombastic and over-the-top. But there are strong signs that it is resonating with the Australian mainstream, both in terms of the stimulus spending on schools and the phenomenal public response to the launch of the MySchool website.

The public does not share the media’s enthusiasm for poring over the school infrastructure program, line by line, to focus on a minority of unnecessary projects while ignoring the many others which kids, parents and teachers are cheering on as long overdue.

Labor has cemented its ownership of education with this spending. And it is milking it big time. It has shamelessly decorated the nation’s schools with canvas banners spruiking this cash rollout, in a very non-subliminal form of election year advertising. But I suspect most parents don’t care - their reaction will be that it’s about time someone gave more money to schools, even if it did end up going on a Taj Mahal sized tuck shop at a school in the inner-west that actually wanted an assembly hall.

And for a government that’s (rightly) been accused of being heavy on symbolism and light on action, the launch last week of the MySchool website has given Rudd a powerful example of a big policy at work. Claims by the teachers’ unions of dodgy data or carping about the site crashing on its first day will not change the fact that parents believe they should know much more than they currently do about the relative performance of their kids’ school.

2. The economy is kicking the rest of the western world’s backside.

Labor is too pig-headed to admit that one of the reasons we have weathered the economic storm so well is that John Howard and Peter Costello were such prudent and responsible economic managers that they bequeathed a whopping surplus to their political foes. That said, attempts by the Libs to run the debt-and-deficit line can be countered by Rudd and Wayne Swan saying they had no other choice but to whack the defibrillators onto the economy. In this, they are helped by the poor performance of other western nations, none more so than the United States and the United Kingdom, which look like a basket case compared to Oz.

Even the national broadsheet, The Australian, has declared Kevin Rudd as Man of the Year for his management of the GFC – despite the paper being the most dogged critic of his often profligate and scatter-gunned stimulus spending (pink batt, anyone?).

The handy logical feature of Rudd’s argument as to what would have happened if he had “done nothing” – to use one of his favoured terms – is that there’s no way of proving him wrong.

The one thing he really has to worry about is interest rates, which could see him bring the date back from the expected August election to something earlier in the year. But even then, many voters will view rates increases as more of a correction in the backdraft of the GFC, not an indictment on his economic management.
3. Rudd might be a toxic bore but the public doesn’t seem to mind.

It’s quite clear that many people across politics, and plenty more in journalism, find Kevin Rudd priggish, one-dimensional, work-addicted, dull, the polar opposite of a wild and crazy guy. But people don’t want to be entertained or confronted by their politicians. Figures such as Jeff Kennett or Paul Keating managed to be spectacularly entertaining for a while but when their falls came they were vicious. John Howard once said the best currency a politician could have was to be regarded as “alright”. The polls suggest most people still regard Rudd as alright. And remember, in 2007 he was hailed as a mildly left-wing version of John Howard, who himself was a reasonably grey figure, but despite his greyness managed to stick around for 11 years in the top job. Toxic boredom is not a liability in politics in this country.
 
4. The ETS is a manageable stuff-up.

This is far and away Rudd’s biggest weakness but one which Rudd can survive if he’s smart.

Malcolm Turnbull was unlikely to win the support of voters who were unhappy with Rudd’s ETS, given that it was also his ETS. All that has now changed. Abbott has kept his public promise from the day he seized the leadership that he will be “an alternative, not an echo.” And his line that the ETS is a great big tax has Labor worried.

But the ALP can find a way of making climate change just one of the issues it is running on – and a down the order issue, behind education and economic management, and whatever other goodies it dangles before the punters in the May Budget and during the campaign. It would be taking a huge gamble if it ran a double dissolution election around the issue, or even framed its campaign around the issue in a regular election, as there is too much confusion and disquiet among the voters to convince them it is necessary after the collapse of Copenhagen.

5. Too many people remain suss about the Libs - and Abbott.

Tony Abbott has only been leader for just over two months, and is the third guy to have a go at leading the Liberals since Rudd was elected in 2007. Despite his experience in government at very senior levels, the baton-passing in the party doesn’t scream “ready to govern”. Turnbull may continue to be a distraction this year. And then there’s Tones himself. The virgin stuff last week was a case in point. While he was simply giving an honest answer to a question – an answer which probably didn’t cost him any votes, but gave those people who can’t stand him another reason to dislike him even more – it went to a persistent problem with his style. And that’s an inability to stay on message, best evidenced during the 2007 campaign by telling the dying Bernie Banton where to go.

Rudd is aware that complacency might be his biggest enemy, as shown by his rallying call to the troops yesterday. But on balance he is best placed to win in 2010. Australians are historically reluctant to turf governments after one term – even the hapless Gough got two gos at it before he buggered the economy. Whether you like it or not Kevin Rudd is likely to be given that same chance.

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    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      06:38am | 02/02/10

      I think you might be right David but it will be a lot closer than you think. It will be tough for the Libs to take on Labor and the media barons. The media will allow Kevin Rudd to take what he has said was the greatest challenge this country has ever faced last year (AGW) and let it slide down in order of importance. It is obviously not as important as he said. If every man and woman in this country was made to read the Nick Champion article from yesterday things would be different. If this is how the Labor party responds to 50% of its constituents then they are loosing there way. I am offended by their arrogance. Maybe one more term for Rudd but a day is a long time in politics. Just ask Malcolm Turnbull.

    • James H.P says:

      11:49am | 02/02/10

      Abbotts speach to the Liberals , young or otherwise is of no concern to me. I like most Aussie’s am worried about the morgage, and the kids and rising interest rates, high petrol and food prices and if I can stretch things enough to get new tyres for the car before I am booked. Mr Rudd has been a great help to my family, that stimulous money came just in time for me to be laid off from work. It gave me enough breathing space to get another job and I will sure vote for the man

    • William says:

      02:01pm | 02/02/10

      Yor just going to pay for that Stimulas package you recieved through increased taxes. Interest rates are rising at an increasingly alarming rate and un-employment for students (uni students over 18) is also increasing. It’s much more dificult for a student to get a job as employers are hesitant to employ since it is much more difficult to sack. If you live in Queensland you can blame Anna Bligh for the high petrol prices since she removed the 8c /L. What has improved on our roads? Nothing. Has public transport improved since the 30% hike in prices? No. What has Labor achieved in the past 3 (Fed) and 5 or more (States)? Answer that. It’s all talk and no substance.

    • Saskia says:

      02:36pm | 02/02/10

      Voting for the other side - I would expect nothing else!  You might need to google slander and re-read my post (if you can read).

    • James H.P says:

      02:47pm | 02/02/10

      I am grateful to Mr Rudd for the hand he gave me at a bad time for my family I am voting for Mr Rudd because I believe hes doing a good job. You people need to get out there and get a job. Same people sitting here all day whinning about everyone else..get a bloody life and do some work for a change. Its pretty obvious to anyone who reads these posts, that your here all day. Go out and do some work and contribute to Australia because this dribble your pumping out is only boosting your own ego’s

    • David P says:

      03:58pm | 02/02/10

      Hi James, for the same concerns you cite, I would NOT vote Labor. They have been profligate, and tossed away any financial security that we had as a nation; their only recourse to recover the money they have spent recklessly is to raise taxes.  Watch this space, after May this year you may have to wait even longer for your tyres, either because your disposable income has reduced due to increased taxes or the price of goods has risen faster than your wage.
       
      Have a budget, stick to it and enjoy the feeling of being independent.

    • steven says:

      04:06pm | 02/02/10

      how sad is it that your vote can be bought so easily.

    • Chris says:

      04:57pm | 02/02/10

      Does this sound like a copy of a Labor press release or what! If your vote can be bought for $900 ($900 which you paid for with high taxes, incidentally) it says a lot about you.

    • William McMannus says:

      06:08pm | 02/02/10

      It’s a shame that spelling, grammar and punctuation are also of “no concern” to you, but hey, at least you can vote.

    • Tony says:

      10:47pm | 02/02/10

      What a moron you are James. If you live hand to mouth as you indicate, you would be far better off voting for a government that can deliver sustainable reform. Not the odd lucky dip that Rudd gives!

    • Clark Kent says:

      12:44am | 03/02/10

      Where did you get your economics degree, William? Are you at all aware of the role rightwing governments and their policies played in the western world’s current malaise? You should read the political history of your state, too. I think of the Liberal/National party as providing a public service a bit like a prison; it’s a good place to keep all the really, really stupid people, so we can keep an eye on them.

    • Perry White says:

      12:52am | 03/02/10

      @ James HP;

      these ‘people’ are actually employed by the Liberal party to churn out their rightwing gibberish, day in, day out. It’s been happening since ‘Honest John’ Howard was (Prime) MInister for International Humiliation. It’s just the same mindless dross, over and over from people without the credentials to support their rantings, who shout down the genuine intellectuals that periodically invade their space. The rightwing in this country have known absolutely no bounds since that myopic little egomanic destroyed our international reputation.

    • S.L says:

      03:19pm | 02/02/10

      Er Wayne which media barons support Labor? The commercial TV stations are sticking it to Kev every chance they get. Only Kerry O’brien on the ABC cuts him any slack. The talkback radio guys couldn’t be more conservative if they tried. Listen to 2GB for example and you could be excused fot thinking you are listening to the media arm of the Liberal party. 2UE is marginally better but only just! The FM guys if they get political go off on that many different tangents to make out they have a brain their teenage audience flick a CD on!

    • James Mean says:

      07:10am | 02/02/10

      Yes its possibly unlikly he will be ousted but im thinking the groundswell of discontent is bigger than imagined and actually may sting them really badly.
      I cant say i care to be honest they have been the most hapless and uncoordinated government i have ever seen.

    • Percy says:

      08:34am | 02/02/10

      Chrissy, you are generalizing!! You do NOT know us all and aren’t speaking for me. My vote will go to Labor, and I suspect Kevin Rudd will win the next election

    • Von says:

      07:16am | 02/02/10

      If Abbott is to win he has to keep drumming on about the mess of healthcare, inflation, ETS, poor performing State labor (and link it to KRudd), highlight his broken promises, get support from groups that detest labor and keep highlighting to the public his weakness (never in the country, poor economic knowledge). Libs can win, it will be close but Krudd has little time ( & money) to keep his promises. Get KRudd out now!

    • gnasher says:

      08:42am | 02/02/10

      Australia had better hope this labor lot get booted out asap.They have shafted the states & now they are doing it federally,just look at the debt.
      We cannot afford them, it is very simple really.
      If the media was honest this mob would probably never get in government again.

    • Sam says:

      08:55am | 02/02/10

      The press should invite Rudd for a photo opportunity on board yesterday’s 181-person boatload of illegal immigrants.  I’d like to see that!  Just wait for the Obama circus posing.  How much will this entirely unnecessary visit cost us?

      The press should ask why Rudd and his support outfit undertakes so much environmentally damaging aircraft travel, when he could pick up the phone - while normal Aussies are being groomed for (questionable) “climate change” austerity measures.  And Mr Rudd should avoid pushing Australia into binding group agreements with countries that would diminish us as an independent thinking and governing continent. 

      Rudd’s people got the Henry Tax Report that WE PAID FOR - but WE were told by Tanner last night that it will be available in “some months”. “SOME MONTHS”?  That should be a few WEEKS, so we can know long in advance of their election campaign exactly what is planned and we can widely discuss for and against. 

      Not even the opposition has been supplied with a copy of the Henry Report.  Not good enough.  What’s going on?  We pay up, but we are conveniently shut up?  I think the government is on thinner ice than the polls show.

    • PTom says:

      02:49am | 03/02/10

      Do mean the healthcare the Liberals had 11 years to fix but did not.
      Do youmean the inflation and high interest rates at the last election or now?
      His poor economic knowlegde so which recession did we have?

    • oldefellah says:

      07:18am | 02/02/10

      You better hope whoever’s lending all this money to Kev and his State based dropkicks keeps it going beyond the election. And you better hope it’s not fought on “unimportant” issues such as the skyrocketing cost of keeping a car on the road, a trolley full of food and power into the house. And you better believe that voters are as thick as you seem to think they are.

    • John A Neve says:

      09:21am | 02/02/10

      Oldfellah @ 0718hrs.

      You’d better believe it, the electorate is thick. They also have short memories, worse unless an issue bites them on the bum, they don’t care.

      We live in a DEMOCRACY, I think? You are the government Oldfellah.

    • Jennie says:

      07:19am | 02/02/10

      The “Unloseable Election”  and “landslide, at the next election” as all you journo’s and media people dubbed it all throughout last year seems to have disappeared. Well done Tony.

    • T.Chong says:

      07:20am | 02/02/10

      WH- a quick list of left leaning media barons pls.
      Do you now include Rupert as a Lefty after he made touchy feely Avatar?

    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      07:48am | 02/02/10

      No I don’t, but he stands to make billions out of carbon trading and supports Rudd’s big tax on everything. (that’s got a real nice ring about it if you say it over and over again)
      It goes beyond which side of the fence your cheeks are planted.

    • chrissy says:

      07:22am | 02/02/10

      The Rudd gov comitted a fraud on the Australian taxpayer to the tune of millions ...the public does not consider this “managable”.
      They consider it a crime ...a white collar crime.
      Nor are the boats now pulling up at the dock on Christmas Island and costing us millions easily dismissed while our own people who need help and have to line up behind these new arrivals.

    • m says:

      08:13am | 02/02/10

      chrissy - just be careful about making broad generalisations like ‘the public’.  I am part of this ‘public’, and I do not agree with you at all.

    • Nicholas says:

      11:16am | 02/02/10

      What are you going on about?

      You aren’t in the same “line” as these “new arrivals” you talk about…you may as well say you are in the same “line” as the prisoners in long bay gaol or all the aboriginals we lock up at great cost.

      Seriously, get a clue. You should only be able to vote after passing a general knowledge / IQ test. LOL

    • Peter says:

      12:05pm | 02/02/10

      Re Boat people, if your not happy that Australia is a signatory to the refugee convention, don’t blame Rudd, don’t blame Abbott, blame the Government of the day that signed it and if your not happy about it, ask your Government to remove itself of it’s obligations… Quite frankly, i don’t think even John Howard would have gone that far… We do piddlywinks in terms of looking after refugees, there are millions in any given year. Poor countries take on the big burdeon, and rich one like ours, like to whinge about it .. Seriously get over it..

    • Young Clive says:

      12:16pm | 02/02/10

      They also gave pensioners the first real payrise in years.

    • Matt says:

      07:39am | 02/02/10

      You will look like a fool on election night Penbo, but only because you’ll drink one too many tequilas and end up dry humping Tony Burke at the Revesby Workers. Just a strong suspicion.
      Rudd to win comfortably(and just wait for the landslide when St Julia gets the gig…) . You’re spot about the effect of education and the stimulus. All my tradie mates think it’s the only thing that got their sector through.

    • Nick says:

      09:29am | 02/02/10

      Did any of your tradie mates go back to earning reasonable wages instead of inflated wages of the past 10 years?  Probably not?  Businesses that adapted to the times, and made fair wage adjustments would most likely have survived stimulus handouts or not.  But then again, your union would have made sure you didn’t get one cent less than before the GFC?

    • craig says:

      09:33am | 02/02/10

      your tradie mates are right , it is the only thing that keep the construction sector alive, but it will start to dry up by about May , and I susepct your Tradie mates will have to enjoy some forced long weekends and short working weeks by July . I would hate to be fighting an election with rising interest rates , stagant full time employment figures , and rising costs. MAybe Kevin will go to an elcection at the end of March after some good pics with young Barry from the States

    • AJ says:

      03:25pm | 02/02/10

      As long as you help paying it back - x4

    • Andrew says:

      08:29am | 03/02/10

      Craig, dont wait till May… Hundreds of boilermakers around the country have been laid off in the last few weeks… and their bosses have no work to quote on, so its going to get far, far worse!.

    • Eric says:

      07:54am | 02/02/10

      It’s not so much that the media barons are left-leaning, but the journalists and editors are. Just look at The Punch’s coverage of Tony Abbott for an example.

      Of course, Rudd will win the next election, barring the unforseeable. But the one after that will be interesting.

    • T.Chong says:

      07:56am | 02/02/10

      Chrissy - what “help’ do these “new arrivals” recieve that Australians are made to line up for?

    • Butterfly says:

      08:07am | 02/02/10

      I definatly will be voting for Mr Rudd, I think they have managed things very well in the term they have been in. Chrissy don’t speak for The Australian Public, you don’t know us all, speak for yourself . I can’t speak for others, we all have differing views that’s what a democracy is all about. But I can tell you that I was pleased with the apology to the Aboriginals, and pleased we made it so easily through the recession. Good Luck Labor

    • Sam says:

      08:06am | 02/02/10

      cant kevin introduce a tax to fix this?

    • Old Clive says:

      08:11am | 02/02/10

      I would hope that all married and couple pensioners would keep in mind the gigantic payrise which was handed to them and realise that the Labor Party is the party for the rich and for the unions, maybe we need a pensioner party to split the balance of power, and put all the wisdom that swanny reckons we have into action.

    • Blampa says:

      08:45am | 02/02/10

      Abbott has enough ammunition to blow the ALP out of the water (just like some of kevins boatpeople) however, the “meeeja” in this country seem hellbent on keeping the fraudulent little dictator krudd in place.  Abbott outlined his plan for fighting this governments woeful track record on broken promises over the weekend and not one mention of it in the “meeeja”.  Krudd on the other hand sees his cat run across the lawn of Kirribilli house and its front page news.  Penbo, surely your good self and others of your ilk aren’t prepared to continue being sycophants to a plastic PM are you?  What’s the pay off?  Why does Kevin only do soft interviews?  Why does he not answer questions?  Do you know of his desire for the UN tilt?  Are you and others waiting for the ascention of red Gillard?  Surely you can see the difference between the treatment Howard got by the meeja and the treatment kruddy gets especially since the wankfest hopelessfailin conference?  You remember the furore over people overboard; krudd has people exploding and not one question is asked as the meeja collectively sweeps it under the rug.
      No, Tony Abbott won’t need to fight Krudd this year to win, he’ll have to fight the very compliant lapdog media.

    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      09:01am | 02/02/10

      Thats what I meant…..

    • thatmosis says:

      10:39am | 02/02/10

      Funny thing, just after the election I could find heaps of people who proudly boasted that they had voted for Gunna Krudd but now I cant find any. He has consistantly lied to the Australian people but its the media who must shoulder the blame for not allowing the facts get out about his shortcommings. The media has consistantaly attacked the Liberal/National party for every little thing but made Gunna Krudd in to a saint. Sorry to tell you guys but he is a waste of space whos only priority is Gunna Krudd and the Australian people are just a means to an end for him.

    • Mal says:

      03:22pm | 02/02/10

      You are Kidding???

    • persephone says:

      09:09am | 02/02/10

      Oh dear, seems like the ‘reply’ button isn’t working.

      Please unscramble my posts above, dear punch readers:

      my first was a response to J. Mean;

      my second to Von;

      my third to Dasher;

      &  my fourth to Old Clive.

      Me & this ‘reply’ button are not getting along at all well!!!

    • Gerry says:

      12:08pm | 02/02/10

      Gigantic payrise ?? I must have missed something. Couples got what ? $10 ? And you have to wait until you are 67 to get that. And all the unemployed got was some sympathy from Wayne Swan but nothing tangible. And now what .. 1000 training places for older workers ... wow

    • Halberstram says:

      08:16am | 02/02/10

      “Labor is too pig-headed to admit that one of the reasons we have weathered the economic storm so well is that John Howard and Peter Costello were such prudent and responsible economic managers”

      But lets not forget that Howard and Costello (and their media cheersquad)  were too pig-headed to admit one of the reasons for Australia’s performance during their term was the heavy-lifting in economic refrorm done by the Hawke-Keating govenments.

      Most fair economic commentators rate the hawke-Keating reforms as substantially more significant and beneficial than anything Howard-Costello did.

    • dasher says:

      08:53am | 02/02/10

      Halberstram what you miss is that the finance reforms of the Hawke government were largely the implementation of the report findings commissioned by John Howard in 1982 as federal treasurer. So no real credit for that. But yes, definately credit for the superannuation changes they brought in.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      09:17am | 02/02/10

      Dasher,  these are the same reforms commissioned in the Campbell report that John couldn’t get up and running. John didn’t have the ticker to get them through his own party as policy let alone implement them. Fraser didn’t want a bar of them because they would be unpopular and for a period of time would stall and possibly send the economy backwards, which for Howard at the time would be difficult as he had already managed to send the economy into a head spin. Thank God for Keating who had what it takes to make the hard decisions and get the economy out of the 1950’s. So by your statement Howard gets the credit for doing nothing, implementing nothing and having no policy. Pretty much like the twelve years he spent as Prime Minister.

    • Darren says:

      05:40pm | 02/02/10

      Paul Keating and his Union backed ALP cronies handed over to the coalition a 90 billion plus DEFICIT. The arguments about which party or leader was responsible for specific economic policies is a moot point. The fact remains that the Liberals turned a 90 billion dollar debt into a substantial surplus, and put in place initiatives to help safeguard against future downturns - such as the National Future Fund setup by Peter Costello. All Rudd and Swann are good at doing is propping up their own quartely financial figures in the retail sector by giving away money via so-called ‘stimulus’. Believe me when I say that stimulus spending only works for a relatively short period of time, as the United States is painfully now finding out. Tax breaks for small business (good Coalition policy), and the removal of Union impediments, is the way to get this country back to peak economic output levels.

    • Kim says:

      08:19am | 02/02/10

      If Tony Abbott was able to change the Liberals support in the polls this far in only 2 months you would have to say with a couple of more months or more up his sleave before the next election there is every likelyhood that he could win the next election.

    • oldgirl says:

      08:21am | 02/02/10

      I aggree with you oldefellah
      Don’t take us all for idiots David, this Prime Minister has us in so much debt
      Thats why he keeps talking about 50 years from now. he can’t handle to-day
      He only faces the public when he something to spruke about, and hides behind Julia’s skirt
      As usual the oldies are made to feel a burden

    • John A Neve says:

      08:32am | 02/02/10

      Oldgirl @ 0821hrs,
      Just what is your problem with debt? The country has the largest credit card debt in the world, we run on debt.

      History shows under the previous government National Debt rose from $700 billion to $3.2 trillion !
      The same government took our Net Foreign Debt from$180 billion to $550 billion !!
      Like it or lump it, government money is spent on US, we might think it is spent on the wrong things, but that is a personal choice.

    • Macca says:

      09:47am | 02/02/10

      @John A Neve, I have a problem with Debt because eventually we have to all pay it back in taxes. That 900 bucks we all got is going to be a a bit over a thousand when we have to finally put it back into the economy

    • whippersnapper says:

      10:07am | 02/02/10

      the thought of the oldies getting it on is just too much to bear! - try convincing everyone with a mortgage, that debt is bad, and that they should be camping in the bushes.

    • Buster says:

      10:11am | 02/02/10

      I think it’s time for some “Leadership speculation” stories about Rudd and Gillard. (your turn Labor) I’m sure the media would like to be able to get in behind the Labor wall of silence and find out what really is going on behind those closed doors. Keeping up the unified front that Labor has been so good at is going to be harder to continue as time goes on. Especially with Gillard outperforming her leader.

    • Petal says:

      11:05am | 02/02/10

      Rudd won’t be game to say anything about Immigration, because they will be afraid to upset the “do gooders” who he knows will mmediatley say he is playing the race card. But Abbott pobably will, he won’t be afraid of the do gooders saying that, because he knows everyday Australians want to talk about this issue.

    • Orchid says:

      03:43pm | 02/02/10

      Old girl and several others on this blog really have no understanding of economics. Its not your debt and you will not have to personally pay it back. The future commondity boom that is China will take care of the debt. By the way interest rate rises are to control inflation not to pay back debt. Inflation is caused by a strong economy. The gov’t can’t win. If the economy is weak the gov’t is criticised and if interest rates go up to try and dampen inflation then the gov’t is criticised. Please learn a bit more about how it all works before making ignorant comments such as these.

    • Dasher says:

      08:21am | 02/02/10

      What about interest rates are higher and rising, petrol and grocery prices are higher and rising, foreign debt is higher and rising, surplus is now a huge defecit, unemployment rate is higher, promise to nationalise the hospital system was never seen through, the carbon tax, the $900 bribe that overheated the economy, the removal of the baby bonus and family assistance, the removal of tax incentives for retirement saving, soft on illegal imigration, Kevin 747, roll back, L.A.W tax cuts, the Khemlani affair etc etc etc….. I see your 5 and raise you 12. Bring on the election.

    • Bretto says:

      11:22pm | 02/02/10

      - Foreign debt is mostly in the form of private debt not public debt (ie government debt) - the people to blame for that is every Australian that wants everything on credit, not the government.
      - Interest rates are still way lower than historical averages
      - grocery & petrol prices will always rise over time (or did they decreases dramatically during the Howard years and I missed it?)
      - funny the OECD and most economists (and some of the Libs privately) state that the retail stimulus (ie the $900 bribe) was what prevented us from going into recession
      - you seem contradictory about the bribes too: you have a problem with $900 bribe but somehow think the baby bonus etc (another bribe) are acceptable
      Have a bex and a lie geezer!

    • Evan Findlay says:

      11:26pm | 02/02/10

      Dasher, so you don’t continually make an idiot of yourself. Fact. In 1996 the foreign debt under Keating was 120 billion. In 2007, Mr Costello left us with a foreign debt of over 600 billion dollars.  The guy was a charlatan and you were stupid enough to follow him. Our current deficit is at 58 billion which is peanuts compared to the likes of America at 4 trillion, and our economy is on the up!  The hospital system, under Abbott, was headed for a takeover but Howard and Costello realised it was too expensive and not part of their policy, but you would like Labor to do it for you, like economic reform. The baby bonus is still in place just paid fortnightly instead of in a one off payment, which is responsible. The economy is not overheating as demonstrated by today’s hold on interest rates, still at record lows. ( That doesn’t happen in an overheating economy. Just a little lesson in economics for you) Family assistance has just increased, I should know I have one! And I’m sorry did you have one million dollars to drop into your super?, because they were about the only people who could afford to do it. Dasher you are the complete idiot. No research, no figures, no data and no fact. Your whole argument is based on your opinion and that’s not worth much. Stick to the facts and leave your bullshit at the door!

    • Bruce says:

      08:22am | 02/02/10

      David, I think you might be underestimating Abbott and the Libs. As Rudd and Labor have done. If I were Labor I would throw out Rudd and put in Gillard, then I’m sure there would be no chance Abbott could beat Gillard. But with Rudd as Leader there is a chance.

    • Troy Boulton says:

      08:25am | 02/02/10

      A Toxic Bore, thats the least of our problems with Krudd. Australia has no border protection, he makes deals with people committing piracy. Holding a Australian Govt ship to ransom is piracy. And then he lied about by say NO special deals were made?

      And in my opinion the only reason Australia survived the GFC was due to the Howard Govt leaving with a surplus, that Krudd quickly turned into debt and a lot of it.

    • M says:

      08:29am | 02/02/10

      There is reactive politics and then there are preventative politics.  Which position would you rather Australia be in? Dire economic woes, unemployment and a government desperately trying to plug holes, or a government who acted immediately, spending money where it needed to be spent, and preventing the bulk of the hardships that now dog Britain and the USA?  It’s just so easy to claim that the ‘government has spent our money irresponsibly’ - when you are sitting pretty in your job, and still have your house.  If you were lining up at Centrelink and taking a loss on your house and moving into rental digs, I’m guessing you might be a little bit unhappy, and wish ‘the government’ had done something.  There is nothing much irreponsible about the government’s policies around the GFC - they did what they had to do, and now we are in a pretty good position because of it. 

      As for schools, the information is only going to be valuable if they now follow through with action - yeah its great to know that a school isn’t performing well, but will this spur some action to make it better?  That will be the next big question, and I am willing to give Rudd & Co the opportunity to address it.

      I don’t want an entertainer for a leader - look at the USA with Reagan type people - I would rather have someone a little dull who has a brain.

      Tony Abbott is a joke.  If he becomes prime minister, I am emigrating. And I am really not joking - he has no policies, he makes stupid irrational comments, then changes his mind or back pedals later on, and his religious views are obviously a massive hindrance to rational and logical thought processes - especially when it comes to women.  Underlying philosophies (left/right/whatever) are a guide for policy making, but a government still needs to govern for all people as much as possible, and I don’t believe for a minute that he would be capable of this.

    • Blampa says:

      09:05am | 02/02/10

      No, the continual utilities allowances of over 1500 and other bonuses were nothing.  Gee, the $30.00 per week by 52 weeks is $1560.00, so Krudd has done so much more; like $60.00 more pa.  The funny thing here though, is that because the extra is paid weekly all of the state LABOR governments have increased charges on nursing homes, utilities etc to absorb the increase, so pensioners are now worse off than before.  Great logic persephone, you should apply for a job at the ministry of spin for Kruddy.  BTW, Kruddy is in debt to the unions and will let them get away with anything.  Want proof?  Look at what the MUA is doing.

    • Ian says:

      12:27pm | 02/02/10

      Neil - I thought the media would have been all over Rudd on Sunrise the other morning not being able to answer 2 out 3 questions asked by the public. It was Rudds chance to prove he can answer questions with out notice. He FAILED.  I’m sure if it were Abbott or Howard it would have been headlines everywhere. Hope that this post goes under “Neil” as some reply’s I notice on here don’t.

    • SteveM says:

      02:09pm | 02/02/10

      Jane, I agree with you more than any other comment I’ve seen. I was about to make a similar observation. The only aspect I disagree with is that I think Rudd will leave when he sees the writing on the wall, as Carr did in NSW. This will give Gillard a small window of opportunity in 2013

    • Old Clive says:

      08:36am | 02/02/10

      Australia needs people like you, like we need a hole in the head, that is apart from our natural apertures, we have been fed on discharges from the nether regions ever since this mob was put in power by unthinking people.

    • persephone says:

      08:37am | 02/02/10

      Well, the Opposition are even more hapless and uncoordinated, so that’s not a worry.

    • persephone says:

      08:43am | 02/02/10

      How can Abbott do that without reminding people of his own messes to do with healthcare and the economy (he’s a self admitted economic ignoramus)?

      The good performance by Labor federally in ‘poor performing’ states suggest this isn’t a problem; people recognise the difference between Rudd and Keneally, for example and are unlikely to get them confused.

      As for money, Abbott’s ‘no new taxes’ commitment makes it impossible for him to promise anything new without making it clear what he’s going to slash - something he’s carefully avoided doing so far.

      Easy to look good when you have the media to yourself, no one critiquing your statements and no policies positions to defend. Now the silly season is over, Abbott is going to have to compete for air time, will have his every statement challenged and will have to come up with policies he can stick to for more than eight hours.

      I’d enjoy polls like this while they last.

    • persephone says:

      08:45am | 02/02/10

      The Khemlani affair?

      What is this, 1975?

    • persephone says:

      08:47am | 02/02/10

      Oh, that’s right. The pensioner payments which Howard did nothing about and which rose under Rudd.

      And it’s a neat trick if you can be the party of both big business and the unions!

    • Nicholas says:

      11:21am | 02/02/10

      ummm…lol u blame our prime minister for the GFC?

      3.  Fight Inflation Genie – Oops GFC

      I wasn’t aware that Kevin was so influential at BOA or Goldman Sachs or Merryl Lynch.

      SO MANY DUMB PEOPLE ON HERE…

    • Blampa says:

      08:55am | 02/02/10

      How correct you are.
      Krudd is claiming that the banking sector survived as a result of him and goose; what a machievellian turd.  It was Costello who set up APRA, it was also costello and howard who left a surplus, who paid off the debt (which Krudd has completely reversed by over 260 billion).  No, if the media continue to suckle at Kevins teat and allow him to escape any scrutiny on his litany of failures then he will indeed win again.  That said, it will take decades to pay off the debt this reckless little junior bueraucrat has foisted on Australia, and in years to come he will be seen to be the ardent little uphill gardener he is.

    • jace says:

      08:57am | 02/02/10

      so very tired of hearing about “working families” while he ignores singles, couples while handing out money left right and center to welfare recipients. Ive got no problem with pensioners getting extra but when I saw the way money was being ****ed up against the wall by many of the bludgers of society it made my blood boil. I don’t always agree with what Abbot has to say but I’m willing to give him a go rather than sit back and watch Rudd try to build his reputation for his future UN job which is what he appears to be doing with all his travel.

      The labor party have got very arrogant over the last few months

    • Bettyboop says:

      09:11am | 02/02/10

      I don’t know what type of pensioners you associate with to be doing anything up a wall, but I got some news for you even with this “raise” pensioners are struggling. Those in N.S.W anyway, the electricity rise swollowed most of what they got and housing commision wants to raise these elderly Aussie’s rents and will do so by my understanding in the next 12 months swollowing anything they got. Pensioners I know are grateful for the rise and they have done the hard miles helping build Australia in their youth and are an uncomplaining lot. The best thing that has happened, for Australia and the elderly is allowing them to work. Now all we have to do is convice employers they will work very hard for them and convice Australian youth, that these people are of good merit with strong work ethics. We tend to ignore them, and worship youth in this country. John Howard started this baby bonus, that huge slice, you get to have a child..not Kevin Rudd

    • casba says:

      08:58am | 02/02/10

      It is a shame the Rudd government hasn’t yet thought to put up a My Government website just like the MySchool site so that we could all compare our under performing politicians’s performances! Now that would be a good league table to read, especially when they get around to upgrading the MyGovernment site to include voters opinions on government bullying and dodgy tactics-not to mention the facts about the number of people and journalists employed as spin doctors to doctor the facts.  And what about the exciting facts that would be revealed when they had to reveal all of the sources for their party’s funding?  No, that won’t happen!  Apparently it’s only under performing schools that have to be reduced to that sort of transparency and scrutiny, not under performing governments.

    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      09:06am | 02/02/10

      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out….

    • David says:

      09:06am | 02/02/10

      I think what has happened is that Abbott has managed to regain the support from the “usually votes Liberal” group. I think it will be a long time before Abbott wins over any labor or swinging voters…

    • T.Chong says:

      09:07am | 02/02/10

      Geez Blampa , yuv uncovered the commie plot hereditary peer “Lord” Monckton was talking about, “Red Gillard ” in Australia, Rudds “desire for UN tilt”.
      I’ll have to dust off my old recording of ” L’ Internationale”
      PS As for “people exploding” you are aware about the SIEV 36 Inquiry? Ask Senator Scott, he can tell you the findings already.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      09:08am | 02/02/10

      Old Clive, you have forgotten to take your medication this morning. The Labor Party is the party of the rich! The yellow pill you take in the morning is the one for Alzheimers.

    • mitchell says:

      09:14am | 02/02/10

      There is no doubt, in fact it is 100% that Rudd will win (Well 99.9%). I am a die hard lib and I know this. However Tony will at least run close and not lose too many if any seats. This keeps the libs in striking distance of the ALP when they run up against them next time and will beat them. The way things were going they would have lost many many seats and it would have taken another 2 elections to even get back to striking distance. Rudd has given away to much money to lose this time and he is not stupid enough to do something and implode like Latham. He will continue to do nothing and not piss anyone off enough so that he gets back in. With the help of the greens of course!

    • Sam says:

      09:14am | 02/02/10

      Don’t give us Gillard for God’s sake.  If I have to listen to more of her clipped slow motion speaking tone, talking down to the audience like we are either deaf, dopey, ignorant, or small children who need everything spelled out syllable by syllable, word by word, I’ll vomit.

      The woman is a political liability.

      I’m female, and while many women have much to offer politics, Labor women, selected for gender balance instead of ability, sooner or later shoot themselves in the foot.

    • craig says:

      09:19am | 02/02/10

      I tend to agree that Rudd will win the next election , but there may be a few of his labor membs that will have to fight very hard to hold their seats,  two or three in Queensland, Mckew in Sydney and a few in regional areas of NSW and Vic. Abbott has done more than soloidify the base and it may only take one or two errors from the rudd team under pressure to change things

    • Adam says:

      09:23am | 02/02/10

      All i will add, is 180 boat people in one boat alone yesterday.  Just another Rudd stuff up.  Border control under Labor will never ever be secure.  Too many ideologists in the party. A.K.A. Kevin Rudd.  The australian public have voted before for tougher border control, and we got it for a couple years, but give Labor 2 years and its ruined again.

    • watty says:

      12:18pm | 02/02/10

      I presume you mean Labor’s Front Bench as Labour’s Gordon Brown is a very unattractive man and Gillard is 12.000 miles removed.

      Who helps you at the polling booth to vote for the “correct” Party?

    • Rex says:

      03:36pm | 02/02/10

      Labour is out at the next election. Count on it , why? Because Labour/Green loonies actually think the world will end in 2012. They also think Avatar is a Documentary.  Because of these things, they will be busy getting ready for 2012 and will not want to be bothered with politics. If only the blue ones would come and get them earlier.

    • James says:

      09:59pm | 02/02/10

      There were many, many more boats arriving under the Howard government.

    • Peter says:

      09:22am | 02/02/10

      M - The Rudd Government did nothing different from any other Government regarding it’s reaction to the GFC It was hardly the brain child of the Rudd Government. All leading economies in the world did exactly the same thing with stimulas spending. Australia sailed through the GFC because of the inheretence the Rudd Government recieved thanks to Howard and Costello. One of the strongest economies in the world when it took over from the Libs which Labor and their supporters hate to admitt. To say Abbott changes his mind and then back pedals later on is one eyed. Rudd said in Oct 09 he believed in “A Big Australia” Jan10 he said he has no opinion any longer on a “Big Australia” Rudd said he would take over the public hospitals if there was no improvement by juine 09. It’s now Feb 10 and he didn’t do that at all. To attack Abbott on religeous grounds is ridiculas, it’s Kevin Rudd who does doorstop interviews on Sundays outside his church. It was Kevin Rudd who ran to Mary M’s tombstone for a photo shoot before he went to Copenhagen. It was Kevin Rudd who went off to see the Pope. It’s Kevin Rudd who wants to introduce internet filters etc, pandering to his christian values.

    • Kevin says:

      09:34am | 02/02/10

      I think one needs to consider the GEN Y voters - whom helped put Rudd in the spot. These young people took a gamble on voting for Rudd - they love change. unfortunately, the GEN Ys where probably hit the hardest in the GFC and some may associate this with labor gaining goverment. I suspect there may be some backlash / revolt by this demographic and it might come as a surprise to ‘Hip’ Rudd. Others might want to consider whether any of the promises made by Rudd have actually been set in motion, beside the talk fests obviously. Over-all, he probably will retain govt, but I believe at a lower margin.

    • Phil says:

      09:36am | 02/02/10

      Housing, plus special payments to help them resettle.

      If they gave this to homeless needy Australian’s first most wouldnt mind helping others. However as they arrive my paying criminals to get them here, many see this as queue jumping. Dare you to try that at the Easter Show Mr Chong, see how far queue jumping gets you.

      Nor do Australians like our ships hijacked.

    • Frank says:

      09:37am | 02/02/10

      Abbott’s a perfect leader of the opposition but could only be considered as an international liability as PM. A lot of liberal people here are obviously upset by Daves analysis, which is mostly correct. Only he doesnt go far enough. The Libs look like a rag tag bunch of fringe nutters with a polarising leader who wont be in a position to lead the country until two things happen. Those being: 1. A new less polarising liberal leader emerges (nothing on the horizon atm) and 2. the labor party stuff up far more than they currently have. I dont think the Libs have a snowflakes chance in hell of winning an election for many years.

    • Helen says:

      09:43am | 02/02/10

      I disagree with you David on every Level.  In fact I believe Kevin Rudd will not be leading Labor to the next election.  Why, because he is very much on the nose not just with liberal party supporters but also with Labor voters as well.  Swinging voters are also making claims they will not vote him back in.  He promised so much during his electtion campaign in 2007 but delivered virtually nothing.  The economy was in a brilliant position when Labor took over which is what helped buff the Australian economy.  He is now in trouble due to all the hand outs he thought would help this economy.

      Therefore my belief is that the Labor Party do not want to be a one term party so I believe they will actually pick Julia Gillard to run.  She is willing to speak to any media outlet without fear, unlike Mr Rudd who dictates where he appears and what questions he will answer.
      Whilst He has the ETS policy people will walk away in droves.
      K Rudd is a major Liability to this party and is only interested in running the world and running his own interests.

    • Realist says:

      09:45am | 02/02/10

      1. http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2805740.htm
      Not with labor faithull they’re not!!
      2. Our stock market lost 6% in the last month?  Is that kicking the rest of the world??
      3. The public doesn’t know Kevin Rudd, he has never revealed his true colours, not even in a stupid kids book ‘collaboration’.
      4. The ETS is a write-off and will also be this week.  Without Green preferences, they cannot win.
      5.  Abbott is a known commodity, he is strong, masculine and good at answering questions, everything Rudd is not.

    • dennis says:

      09:46am | 02/02/10

      and not one mention of the never ending boat arrivals .......... oh and M, please emigrate as soon as possible

    • Verity says:

      09:52am | 02/02/10

      Can you believe Rudd said this morning there is more room on Christmas Island for more, after the arrival of another 181 assylum seekers yesterday. He’s now housing them in tents! God help him if there’s a cyclone.

    • Macca says:

      09:54am | 02/02/10

      @Frank, ” 1. A new less polarising liberal leader emerges”...

      Compared to Howard who wasn’t Polarising at all? Or Keating?

      Come on mate, the best leaders we’ve had have been Polarising.


      @Penbo, good and fair analysis, Rudd will get up in the next election, but at least Politics is becoming a contest again. After this Summer of Cricket I’m sick of seeing overly Onesided Victories

    • Macca says:

      10:02am | 02/02/10

      @Kevin, I disagree, KRudd may not be as ‘Hip’ as a few years ago, but He’s still cooler than the Catholic Abott in his budgie smugglers. Gen Y’s will be too embarrased about him referring to his daughters virginity in a national womens magazine (although I think his comments were actually quite admirable).

      as for the loss of Jobs, Gen Y Voters won’t blame the government for the problems (possibly rightfully so) and look to the GFC as a global problem that has had domestic ramifications. KRudd will be spared the sword by the young voters this time.

      My main justification for this; Gen Y seem to support climate change on a larger scale than the rest of the population, and the Coalition’s Jobs and Tax attack on the CPRS just won’t wash with people who have little responsibility

      Maybe in 4 years time, but I think you’ll find the under 30’s age group votes overwhelmingly in favour of Labor (and the greens) in the next election. Similarly, I think many over 60’s will vote for the libs.

    • Gen Y voter says:

      07:08am | 03/02/10

      Macca, I’m a Gen Y voter. I gave some of my vote to Labour (I tick all the boxes) they won’t be getting them again.

      Under the last Government I hated the restrictions they placed on my gay friends, the friends who may have needed abortions (RU486 included) the baby bonus and work choices, just to name a few.

      Under this Government though, I’m being restricted in my Internet access (strange that the PM can smugly tell everyone he won’t tell us how to live, but he’ll tell us what we can and can’t look up on the net?)

      I’m going to be penalised for choosing private health cover, taxed for a scientific theory that has yet to actually be prooven.

      My tax dollars went towards that website that gave us so much information about schools (one test, one day, not all the subjects and all so the parents of little Jenny down the road can pass the buck to the school instead of admitting that it might have something to do with the fact they don’t read with her or encourage counting at home)

      The loudest Gen Yers are not necessarily the majority. At least, I hope they’re not….

    • John A Neve says:

      10:13am | 02/02/10

      Macca @ 0947hrs.
      Are you really suggesting governments only spend money they have on hand?
      If you are, we would have never had the Snowy, the Habour Bridge, Opera House etc.
      In most cases the $900 you quote has already been “put back into the economy”. As a result a %tax has already returned to the government coffers.
      I repeat Macca, this country lives on debt and has for many years.

    • Mabeline says:

      11:54am | 02/02/10

      I don’t think anyone would attack our lifesavers..great people..all of them. But they have young fit bodies that look good in speedo’s. Tony Abbott is over 50 years old and hairy as an ourang and its not a good look. I am 22 year old and my dad is younger than Mr Abott and sure would never look as sleezy as that.

    • Brian says:

      10:18am | 02/02/10

      They must poll different people I speak to - they have had a gutful of the phony Rudd and can’t wait to get to the ballot box and these are Labor as well as Liberal supporters at the last election.

      It’s only Green preferences that has Rudd in front which is why he persists with the dead ETS push - as well as to watch Malcolm Turnbull cross the floor and show Rudd’s entire victory over Malcolm by out foxing him with the ETS fraud attempt.

    • Jane says:

      10:18am | 02/02/10

      The reason Rudd will win is the media…and it’s selectivity and manipulation. The media installed Rudd/Labor and they are not about to admit that mistake this early. The voter also is not about to admit that mistake….yet. The ‘get out’ card for them (media)  will be that it is all RUDD focused…they’ve already began to turn on him.

      The danger here is that that very focus being turned onto Rudd and not the ALP as a whole will ensure they win…at least this next term. As Rudd and his personal propulsion was directly responsible for the ALP’s win….so they will seek to make him the sole scapegoat for when it turns sour. Rudd will be blamed…the ALP’s leader of real choice Gillard will then be installed - problem fixed - according to the ALP and the fawning save face media that is. This is the tack they will use.
      ALP motto in action, “whatever it takes’ - Rudd was only ever there for as long as he was ‘working’ for them…even he knows that….his focus was/is on the world stage and using PMship as a stepping stone. That was the ‘deal’.

      The ‘problem’, however, IS the ALP itself….it’s inexperience/economic cluelessness and it’s utter incompetence….it’s manipulation to maintain control at all costs regardless of quality management….as evidenced by it’s failing State comrades….and collective political history itself.
      The ‘ALP experiment’ when times are ‘good’ and voters are lazily complacent is OVER….or it should be.
      The Coalition were correct pre ‘07 election to say that “this is not the time to put inexperienced managers in to govern”....when the looming financial tsunami was predicted by them but scoffed at by Labor.

      The media has been culpable…...and we should all remember that when it hits the fan.

    • persephone says:

      10:57am | 02/02/10

      OK, we’ll vote the media out at the next election, then.

    • Matt says:

      11:29am | 02/02/10

      Wow, what a comprehensive summary D’oh. Could you splice into sound bites for the average punter and get a job in journalism.

    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      11:50am | 02/02/10

      You know what John A Neve @ 10.27am, just in what other way do you expect the likes of Jane to get her information from. Yes silly, it’s the media.  The media control information. If the media choose to they can make or break anyone. They made Krudd and they can tear him down again. The electorate voted as the media told them to. Now where is my tin foil hat lol….

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      07:42pm | 02/02/10

      What a bunch of crap. The media is always biased in favor of the government of the day, whether Labor or Liberal, simply because that’s where most of the news is. It’s one of the advantages of an incumbent government has, along with “government advertising”.
      As for economic management, I suspect that a Liberal Government would have been doing the same pump priming that the Rudd government did during the GFC, it’s standard economic orthodoxy. Certainly the Howard government had no aversion to the kind of handouts that Rudd was giving out since they were basically a continuation of Howard policy- First Home Buyers Grant, Baby Bonus, Tax Cuts etc.

    • Ryan says:

      10:25am | 02/02/10

      The media’s obvious and ridiculous bais in support of the Labor party is the ONLY reason why Rudd would win the next election. Unfortunately our media have not one ounce of credibility and NEVER take Rudd to task for all of his incompetence instead of giving him a dream run, even obviously pushing his agendas such as Global Warming (AKA Climate Change) whilst effectively silencing scandals like the Climategate saga and the whaling in our southern oceans.

    • John A Neve says:

      10:27am | 02/02/10

      Jane @ 1018hrs.
      You are wrong, your claim that “The media installed Rudd/ Labor” is just not true. The electrorate installed this government, sorry Jane but just like a pollie you are trying to blame others.

      If the electorate is so stupid as to believe every thing the medai tells them, they deserve all they get. I know thinking is hard, but try it some time.

    • peter warrington says:

      10:28am | 02/02/10

      whilst it is a small sample because we change government so infrequently, every new federal government in the last 50+ years has had a swing against it, and lost seats, at its first poll in power.

      (interestingly, in the case of Hawke and Howard, they went and increased their majorities at the poll after that.)

      I think it’s most likely a correction, some finding of the innate majority that new governments really deserved (last 3 changes were relative landslides, brought on by recession or governments being punished for pulling the rabbit out of the hat the poll before… anti-GST; Howard’s interest rate “guarantee”.)

      this could be like 1984, when Peacock out-campaigned Hawke (as he did in 90) and won some seats back. And Labor ha (d?) many seats on the 0-1.5% margin - not sure of the state of play post-redistribution however.

      i’d be predicting a close vote on election night, swings all over the place like 1990, and Labor to win by net 3-5 seats. which is a nice margin to keep a government focussed.

    • craig says:

      07:27pm | 02/02/10

      yes i agree , but with some high profile labor losses

    • Geoff says:

      10:30am | 02/02/10

      Why would anyone vote for that; egotistical, hypocritical, lying prat… Captain Kruddy?  This guy promotes himself as a goody-two-shoes Christian…  why then is every 2nd sentence a lie?  Perhaps his priest or minister needs to have a good talk to him.
      As for seeing us through the GFC,,,  lets not forget the great shape our banking and finances were in thanks to the last government.  Once we were in surplus…  now we are deep in debt.
      As for the ETS…  it is a problem everywhere there is one.  it is as Abbott says ” a great big tax”...  it would only increase inflation here and in doing so cause the RBA to keep pushing up interest rates.
      I’m a swinging voter, I usually vote for policy, but I’m willing to vote Liberal this election just to make sure this wanker is OUT.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      10:39am | 02/02/10

      Fair call – the PM is given plenty of latitude by the media.

    • D'oh says:

      10:44am | 02/02/10

      He will not be getting my vote:

      Rudd Fails:

      1.  2020 - 1,000 B&B; minds, $2+m = 9 useable ideas.
      2.  Save the whales – FAIL
      3.  Fight Inflation Genie – Oops GFC
      4.  Taxes up (Gas, Diesel, Transport, Alco pops) – inflationary
      5.  Fuelwatch - cost $21 million – FAIL
      6.  Grocery Watch/Choice – June, 2009 abandoned $13 million election promise – FAIL
      7.  Arresting Iranian leaders – Stunt
      8.  Bank Guarantee - still over 200,000 bank accounts frozen from September 2008 - $25B of savings locked up for possibly 4 years.
      9.  Laptops
      10.  National Broadband Network (from $4b, to $7b to $43 billion) – Experts are now saying it will cost in the region of $20,000 PER CONNECTION
      11.  Cash Splash 1 – borrowed
      12.  Cash Splash 2 – also borrowed = $42 billion
      13.  Work Choices /Fair work – Will cost jobs Awards Back flips – special dispensation for Tourism/Food industry. Horticultural Industry warning new awards will put farmers out of business, eg, casual pickers weekend rates.  - No response from Gillard yet.
      14.  Immigration/Refugees/Asylum Seekers how many boats so far? Need I even mention the Oceanic Viking?
      15.  Defence - cut expenditure & increase weaponry?
      16.  Homeland Security Department – “a non-core promise” broken Nov 28, 2007
      17.  The buck stops with me – so where are you?
      18.  Securing water on the Murray/Darling
      19.  IVF Program – cuts - the caring ALP.
      20.  Medicare/Private Health – rebate not to be touched - key election promise - outright lie
      21.  Dental Scheme – gone – the caring ALP
      22.  Cataract Surgery – costs doubled – the caring ALP
      23.  Superannuation – the government needs it more than you.
      24.  Home Savers Grant - a fizzer, not enough people saving
      25.  First home Owners grant – increased, not aimed to generate building, inflating house prices
      26.  One Stop Super Childcare Centres
      27.  GP Super Clinics - $275 million borrowed – 1 open Palmerston NT, ALP stronghold – FAIL, 3 approved SA – Noarlunga, Playford North, Modbury , all ALP safe seats
      28.  No compulsory University Union Fees – an outright lie voted down
      29.  Worker Share Options, June 2009 – on, off, on, off, on like a light switch – blunder
      30.  Carbon emissions reduction - LPG conversion subsidies being phased out l – June 2009
      31.  Carbon Emissions reduction Part 2 - Household Solar Rebate axed 9/6

    • D'oh says:

      10:46am | 02/02/10

      32.  Schools Stimulus/? Infrastructure Program – Subject to AG inquiry.
      33.  Ruddbank
      34.  Federal takeover of hospitals by mid 2009 if no improvement. – EPIC FAIL
      35.  Reduce consultancies by $112 million = increase to $800 million (6354 consultancies)
      36.  Govt will pay small business invoices on time = takes a lot longer
      37.  No nuclear Waste Dump NT – election promise – broken June 2008
      38.  $15 million to rural research & development corporations – election promise – broken May 2008.
      39.  A - E reporting on childcare standards & universal pre-school for 4 year olds – election promise – broken June 2009
      40.  ALP Uranium Policy/stance – in tatters.  Garrett approves uranium mine.
      41.  Diplomacy – Japan – biggest customer – FAIL.  India – Uranium contract – FAIL .  USA – conversations (real/imaginary) released to media. China, May 2009 – “difficult to deal with” Australia led Asia Pacific Body – thud.
      42.  Boost funding for aboriginal Legal Aid – lie – actuality = cuts to funding in first budget.
      43.  Scale back Intervention – ignored review recommendations.
      44.  Homes /renovations for indigenous – not one shovel lifted to date
      45.  Digital TV –Conroy, 2008, slash $22m from costs of changeover, figures make no sense – original estimate $16m now to cost $66m
      46.  Cheaper Better Childcare – Govt regulations will see Childcare costs going up by about $1500pa on July 1, 2010
      47.  SORRY! Feb 8, 08. K Rudd
      “We apologise especially for the removal of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families, their communities and their country.”
      Aug 22, 09 The Australian
      “WELFARE workers have swooped on the opal mining town of Lightning Ridge in northwest NSW, removing more than 40 Aboriginal children from decrepit homes in shanty towns….....
      Aboriginal women, stunned by the removals, say it amounts to a “modern-day Stolen Generation”, but the most recent statistics on child removals show Aboriginal children are being taken from their parents in numbers much greater than the Stolen Generations.”
      48.  Skills Program, Sept 2009, The Australian – “Kevin Rudd’s $2bn skills plan in disarray”
      49.  More affordable Housing – October 2009 – prices forecast to go up 20%
      50.  Cheaper Books for Australians – back flip to protectionist policies
      51.  ETS, Versions 1&2;–FAIL senate.
      52.  2007 Rudd promises a new era in cooperation between Federal Government & States. 2009 Rudd loses patience with NSW ALP, Qld Traveston dam.
      53.  Copenhagen conference - EPIC FAIL – CLASSIC COMEDY
      54.  “Ian McPhedran July 26, 2009 11:00pm
      WHEN it comes to chalking up VIP jet bills, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Governor-General Quentin Bryce leave their predecessors in a $5.8 million wake.
      During the six months from June to December last year, the PM Kevin Rudd and Governor-General Quentin Bryce team hit a record of $17.2 million in taxpayer-funded VIP flights – which equals $716,000-a-week.” – Kevin Rudd – Our “Stay at home prime minister”
      55.  Relaxed restrictions on foreign ownership elevate house prices.
      56.  FOI review/results. – Open and transparent government promised 2007 by 2009 promise = increased FOI requests and increased rejections of same = markedly increased secretive Government.
      57.  Blunder – superannuation cuts for ADF personnel.  Combet claims difficulty in straitened times = tough luck.
      58.  “Obscene” homelessness numbers = War on Homelessness = increased Homeless numbers for 2010.
      59.  Big Australia - “I actually believe in a big Australia I make no apology for that. I actually think it’s good news that our population is growing” Rudd 2009.  “You asked specifically whether this is my target or not. I don’t have a view on that, to be quite honest.” Rudd on the 730 report 28/1/2010
      60.  8 boats & 630 IMAs as at 2/2/2010.

    • paul says:

      11:29am | 02/02/10

      Something tells me you were very very unlikely to vote for Krudd in any case.

    • Matt says:

      10:49am | 02/02/10

      I think a victory for the Rudd Government is more dependent on a few other factors than the ones mentioned.

      In addition to the question of the media’s preparedness to properly scrutinise both sides’ policies equally, especially on issues like boarder security, hospitals & health care and fiscal management, the other questions are:
      Now that the Greens have voted against the Govt CPRS legislation will the Greens be complete hyppocrites and again give Labor their preferences? Now that Rudd’s appearances on Sunrise are becoming a liability since he was incapable of answering a single question, will the format revert to the pre-election lovefest with Kochie & Mel? Given Gillard’s treatment of the Unions to date will the Union movement again spend tens of millions of dollars on an anti-Liberal advertising campaign?

      In this election Labor won’t be able to engage the Chinese consulate to assist in a campaign against the Liberal Leader’s marginal seat given Tony Abbott’s safe Liberal seat.

      Support for Abbott and the Liberals is slowly growing and depending on the timing of the election, I think they will win.

    • Marty says:

      10:54am | 02/02/10

      One problem with the rationale here - remember that Rudd stepped into the leadership of a messed up Labor just months out from the 2007 election. Abbott has stepped in and is flexing his muscles rather effectively similarly close to an election. It’s a good strategy and has been most successful many times before. A win seems like a tough call for Abbott, but don’t count him out. I’ll have both sets of fingers crossed, that’s for sure! Go for it, Abbott.

    • Paul says:

      10:56am | 02/02/10

      I’m afraid this stuff about it being close is rubbish.
      Betting markets don’t get elections horribly wrong - just check the odds at the last few. This one should be dire reading for any Abbott fan:
      http://www.sportingbet.com.au/uipub/sport.aspx?l1id=34&l2id=754608&l3id=754609

      As much as many people would like to think that Tony is getting the coalition back into a reasonable position, the reality is he is going to lose many of his best men at this election.  Dutton, Pyne, hopefully Turnbull.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      11:00am | 02/02/10

      Penbo, fair assessment.  Unfortunately, the waste generated by their spending will not be seen by the majority of Australians and it will come back to bite us all.

      I also suspect the election will be much closer than expected with the government getting a big kick in the backside. There’ll be a message in that for someone.

    • No to Dutton says:

      12:34pm | 02/02/10

      I can tell you Dutton won’t get back in. You don’t parachute into a safe seat whilst turning your back on your own, especially when you ran your campaign against your predecessor for the exact same thing. Dixon deserves more

    • Warren Ikin says:

      10:56am | 02/02/10

      There is one other major issue that you forgot to mention and is the reason Abbott has been catapulted to the lead in the polls and that is immigration. Australians are fed up with being forced to tolerate criminal foreigners running amok in our society. All of a sudden we are being branded as racist around the world because of our desire to retain our identity. If Rudd wants to win the next election he going to have face to up the fact that his immigration non-policy is a farce and that aliens are compromising our standard of living.

    • Chris says:

      12:23pm | 02/02/10

      I thought Rudd’s radio interviews this morning were weak, and the whole idea that he is bit on talk small on action is starting to bite.
      I also think there are questions around Health / failing to bring the NSW Govt into line or hold them to account in any way / and the sleeping issue of Internet Censorship - which is a much bigger issue than media commentators appear to realise.
      Also, the Abbott issue is being mis-handled by Labor. Gillard’s response to the virgin thing was shrill and lacking imagination - much better to have made a joke of it and tied it to his catholicism / Virgin Mary worship. The shrill response only highlighted to all the millions of Dads out there how much they agree with Abbott as this was a Dad/Daughter issue not a women rights issue. Every single Dad with a daughter on the planet would agree with him 100% - and Dads are voters too - very influential voters.
      While there is no question Rudd is the winner most likely, the odds of an unset win are narrowing sharply.

    • George says:

      01:04pm | 02/02/10

      A few minor things,

      •  the sleeping-in-cars story
      •  kicked off the farm
      •  the false Anzac dawn
      •  Scores
      •  the “sick girl” excuse for sending the Oceanic Viking boat people to Indonesia
      •  the “reckless spending must stop” promise
      •  the dumping of our “non-German- speaking” diplomat
      •  the “no special deal” claim for the Oceanic Viking Tamils
      •  FuelWatch
      •  Grocerywatch
      •  Whalewatch
      •  taking the Japanese to court over whaling
      •  the “I saw Colin Cowdrey bat at the Gabba” story
      •  the dodgy pie, or sausage roll, or dagwood dog story
      •  the no-responsibility-for-the-boat-surge claim
      •  formalising the “stolen generations” myth
      •  the 750,000 homes will drown claim (among all the other warming deceits)
      •  the “I believe in big Australia but now haven’t got any opinion” story
      •  the I-haven’t-read-the-IPCC-draft-treaty excuse
      •  the “I did not abuse a RAAF stewardess”
      •  the “I did not eat my earwax” story
      •  The “Brian Burke was not there” story


      Yet Rudd will be returned.  The Australian public generally give their PMs two terms unless they have really stuffed up in a big way. Besides, there’s not much opposition.

    • Rex says:

      03:51pm | 02/02/10

      Orchid,  Why are these people fleeing those countries? Could it be because they are so overcrowded that life is a relentless dog eat dog grind? How many people need to come here before you and your children are made to take on the same ethos?  Is your objective that Australia become like those countries?  An overcrowded country without resources is a bonfire waiting for a spark. Rawanda is one example of a country that suffered an incredible population increase then the terrible aftermath.  How many homeless people could you keep in your house? two, three?  How about a hundred?
      Think a bit more deeply about why Australia is prosperous before you write such nonsense.

    • jace says:

      10:59am | 02/02/10

      Bettyboop, not once in my post did I say anything about pensioners not being deserving of money or ****ing money up against the wall,  go back and read my post! I said I had no problem with pensioners getting any money. In my opinion they deserve it, its the other (NOT ALL) welfare recipients I was talking about, those who I routinely watch having more babies and not even looking for work.

    • Jane says:

      11:00am | 02/02/10

      Excellent assessment d’oh…..saved to Word, thanks wink

      John A Neve…I don’t think you are disagreeing with me at all then. The operative ‘electorate’ on the result ( I think I termed them ‘lazily complacent’ if you read further ) was certainly ‘influenced’ about how to vote by the ‘in your face’ media…it’s pretty much all they use to guage.

    • Maka says:

      11:01am | 02/02/10

      His best men? Dutton, Pyne? TURNBULL???????????????? You must be kidding.

    • paul says:

      11:46am | 02/02/10

      @Maka:  “His best men? Dutton, Pyne? TURNBULL???????????????? You must be kidding. “

      That’s the problem for Abbott.  His cupboard is bare.  All the experienced Howard team are leaving or have left - they know when to jump ship.  Just imagine - Bronwyn Bishop on the front bench!!  The real question is who could possibly take over once Abbott gets smashed.  Hockey is a lightweight, Robb is damaged goods.  Julie Bishop?  Forget it!

    • paul says:

      11:05am | 02/02/10

      You sound very racist Warren.  Ugh.

    • Warren Ikin says:

      03:04pm | 02/02/10

      Thanks Paul. It would appear that way. The paradox is that my wife of 13 years is Japanese which means I have a Japanese family who I love and respect very much. I have lived and worked in Japan and have been working with the Japanese and many other nationalities in the tourism industry here in Cairns for over 16 years. I also come from a very multicultural town here in North Queensland and have many friends from many different ethnic backgrounds. I am not a racist. The issue I raise is that this government does not manage immigration very well. Here in Cairns we have a rogue community of Japanese expatriates who through back room deals have managed to monopolize the Japanese tourism industry and has left more qualified and experienced workers out in the cold. Unemployment here in Cairns is around 12% with authentic Australian tour guides being displaced by Japanese visa holders because they are cheaper. Is it any wonder that Cairns’s reputation as an exclusive holiday destination is being compromised. Where you have corruption you have incompetency by default. These rogues are able to achieve this by breaking tax, immigration, council and Queensland transport laws. I have written to the Queensland Premier, the Minister of Tourism as well as all the Labor members here in Cairns and have only received a letter that was not relevant to the complaints that I made. I wrote to the local federal member and received no response. This government waffles on about jobs, jobs, jobs and ignores the underlying cause of unemployment. Simple economics dictates that if you don’t provide quality and service you won’t have any customers. I don’t have a problem with how immigrants come here or where they are from but when any person is welcomed into somebody else’s home it is imperative that they respect the locals and behave in a friendly and fair manner. Whoever the next government is they simply have to crack down on the abuse of visas and ensure that everybody conform to both the law and the lore Australia!

    • Jawin says:

      11:06am | 02/02/10

      @macca - just a reminder that we didn’t ALL get $900. Some of us got nothing - which is not necessarily a good or a bad thing. Simply a fact.
      I have been a single tax payer working full time for almost 30 years and paying significant taxes and have never had one red cent from the government - no HECs, no maternity bonus, no family allowance,  no childcare rebates, no first home owner grant, no dole/pension/social security benefits, no hospital stays, no nothing. And it is looking increasingly likely that will remain the case as I (and many others) get older. Again, not necessarily a good or a bad thing - simply a fact.
      As a result,  I get very irritated by broad generalisations assuming that ‘everyone’ benefits directly from government largesse such as that tossed around in the defibrillation attempts during the GFC. 
      I also become almost homicidal by the patronising political and focus on ‘mums and dads’. But that is another rant.

    • Anjuli says:

      11:07am | 02/02/10

      Kevin Rudd ‘s focus is 2050 ,by that time we will all be dead in the age group of 55+
      He has got Australia in so much debt to the Chinese as it seems they are the only country with money to spare.,who will be reaping a whole lot of interest thereby getting richer by the minute.
      In the west the unions have started to flex their muscle by having a strike on the huge gas project which lasted about 2 weeks ,even though the lowest paid is getting $140,000 a year the highest $190,000. While pensioner couple were given $10 a fortnight between them and then the $5.80 script allowance is between them .

    • Mark says:

      11:07am | 02/02/10

      Kevin Rudd must stop travelling overseas and stay here !! He MUSt start explaining to all of us his goverment’s policy, what, why , when and how much. I have been a labour voter all my life but I am gradually getting sick of him. Abbott is perhaps more likeable, but he seems to be so conservative and offers only “bla bla”. Poor Australia !

    • Eno says:

      11:08am | 02/02/10

      D’oh - build a bridge and get over it..

      What has happened to this place? Have the Liberal Pollies got all their staff trolling websites for a living nowadays?

      The punch has previously been somewhere that people can have a conversation about the politics of the day and a laugh at the spin put out by either side regardless of their politics.

      Suddenly it seems everything a liberal member does is glorified and scorn is dumped in buckets from great height by the newly pious.

      Go back to lobbying Big Business and leave the public blogging to the public.. in other words - go back to your day job & do the Budgie Smuggler’s filing would you?!

    • H of SA says:

      11:39am | 02/02/10

      Agree with you Penbo. A lot of the attacks are about Rudd’s style of speaking….but most Aussies don’t really care. Also as Bill Clinton loved to reminded “Its the economy stupid” - as long as the ALP is seen to have handled the recession well they won’t bleed votes.

      Add to that Australia’s habit of pretty much always giving a government more than 1 term and we have a fairly obvious result.

    • D'oh says:

      12:52pm | 02/02/10

      @ Eno:

      “What has happened to this place? Have the Liberal Pollies got all their staff trolling websites for a living nowadays?”

      Again with the staffer accusations.  I am no staffer, just a concerned young Australian.

    • Nicholas says:

      11:12am | 02/02/10

      Ahhh… John Howard did not make the mining boom happen. We can thank our ancient, rich geography for that! Minerals and gas will come out of the ground irrespective of the government of the day…If you hadn’t noticed John Howard and Peter Costello engaged in the largest middle income welfare splurge of all time with handouts left, right and centre (eg: The baby bonus etc…) with no real policy behind them except purchasing votes…so frugal monetary policy is NOT the chief domain of the Liberal Party. It might also be said that the Federal Reserve has declared the stimulus package designed by labour as an outstanding use of monetary policy…I think Kevin is boring, but at the end of the day they have been doing just as good a job as the Liberals have…

    • D'oh says:

      11:24am | 02/02/10

      @ Nicholas:

      “Ahhh… John Howard did not make the mining boom happen. We can thank our ancient, rich geography for that!”

      Mining boom argument FAIL.

      If both the Liberal federal government and the Labor state governments benefited from the mining boom, please explain the current state of the states.

    • craig says:

      11:56am | 02/02/10

      your right , John Howard did not make the mining boom happen , but at least the economic conditions were there to encourage the business expansion. it just didnt happen in a vacum .
      there is no doubt that polices designed and implemented by howard / costello have assisted rudd /swan up to date , but I suspect the next 6 months will be different. if they lose control of inflation and the industral relations landscape, the Australian public will punish them , and that is why i believe the election will be before the May Budget . Rudd will not risk it

    • Kika says:

      11:15am | 02/02/10

      I personally think leading to the election it may appear to be a tight race. But don’t forget - women make up a fair chunk of the voting population. Not all of them are going to be hardline, Catholic conservatives or Christian fundamentalists. A fair few of them don’t really want to have people telling them what their family planning choices should be. So I would believe at the polling booths that a fair few of them won’t vote for the Coalition. I think getting Tony in is a monumental error in judgement. I have the same issues with Krudd as everyone, but frankly he’s a better choice than the mad monk.

    • Saskia says:

      11:17am | 02/02/10

      Australia is the only nation in the western world with compulsory voting.  This is the only reason that Labor stands a chance in Australia.  The uninformed always lean toward the party that offers the ‘free handouts’ and the lazy life for no cost.  I remember learning at Uni that the average IQ of the Labor voters is significantly lower than that of Coalition voters.  And that Labor voters on average work less in their life-times than the average Coalition voter - so much for the party of the working class!  We have to respect democracy and accept that in the Australia ‘the tail wags the dog’.  You get what you deserve!  It can be shown that voluntary voting produces a far more educated electorate and thus a more informed vote.  However, the ALP know full well that they rely on the donkey votes and until Australia joins the rest of the western world and abolishes compulsory voting we will always be struggling to rise above parties like Labor that bring everything down to the lowest common denominator.

    • Matt says:

      12:22pm | 02/02/10

      no bias here folks

      first many countries around the world have left leaning govts in place currently, including the USA and many European nations.

      second a quick check of australias history shows conservative federal govts have been in power more often, and often for longer, than labor govts. dont know what you think that says about your supposed “uninformed majority”

    • Greg says:

      12:38pm | 02/02/10

      Agreed. The ALP has long ago ceased to represent the working class. Now they represent people who don’t want to work, but still have an elevated sense of entitlement and want to live at the expense of others.
      An election has turned into the advanced auction of stolen goods, with the property and earning of productive, hard-working being stolen to buy votes from the parasites.

    • Are you serious? says:

      12:41pm | 02/02/10

      Actually your “theory” is flawed as the majority of voters are swing voters, so how are you going to class them in your socio-economic world. A lot of blue-collar worker vote labor to protect themselves from things like work choices and you find many of them work from 16 until retirement age. A uni degree doesn’t make you smarter or better than them, it just makes you look like a bigot.

    • Peter says:

      04:12pm | 02/02/10

      Your comment “It can be shown that voluntary voting produces a far more educated electorate and thus a more informed vote” is ludicrous.. USA has voluntary voting but it didn’t stop millions of uneducated rednecks to vote in George Bush….twice..

    • Dasher says:

      11:23am | 02/02/10

      Right, what a great idea, take away the tax incentive for people to save for their retirement so we can pay for um….pensions. Idiots!

    • Bretto says:

      11:48pm | 02/02/10

      Actually if we had of kept the pensions at a decent level, there is a greater chance that they will be better nourished, less likely to be dehydrated and less likely to end up in hospital - which ward beds can cost up to $1000 a day to run (staffing, tests, meds etc).  Not to mention the fact that it was the decent thing to do since they have had no real rises in a long time - do you remember decent?

    • Nicholas says:

      11:27am | 02/02/10

      WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? John Howard mad eth Baby Bonus! Get your facts straight. I’m also a Postgraduate student and I vote Labour…and if you haven’t checked the Democrats are currently in power in the United States - not the Republicans…alos you might want to look at France and Germany - both of whom are socialist welfare states… oh and Japan.

      You obviously know nothing, drive a 4 wheel drive from Mosman and drop the kids off at some prissy private school before getting your morning blow dry and your double mocha cocha latte…especially with a name like Saskia (Northern Beaches much? PLEEASSE!)

      Get a clue.

    • Ryan says:

      11:47am | 02/02/10

      And there you have it, the top level of the Labor voters who is so smart and careful he couldn’t even bother to check his post for mistakes, in turn making a complete idiot of himself.

    • Nicholas says:

      12:02pm | 02/02/10

      The best you can do is attack “aslo” & “mad eth”...

      doesn’t change the fact my character assassination is probably spot on smile

    • Peter C says:

      05:03pm | 02/02/10

      You are simply being a redneck at the other end of the spectrum. I think you need to examine your deep-seated jealousy. Much.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      11:30am | 02/02/10

      What a delusional and ill informed piece of right wing political phlegm.  In my years of following Australian politics, and there numbers are many, I have watched as all first term governments struggle to find their feet and implement the policies to which they were elected into office on.

      Jane, you state in your sordid and naive post that the media is somehow responsible for the elevation of Mr Rudd and the Labor government to power. You obviously don’t read The Australian, The Courier Mail, in fact any of the Murdoch tabloids. You obviously don’t listen to 2GB. And could you please explain the alliances of journalists such as Bolt, Ackerman, Albretschen, Milne, Stitchbury, McCann, Colless, Jones (both Steve and Alan). The truth to why the Labor party was elected in 2007 was based on three issues. Howard, Workchoices and the Kyoto protocol. This data was collated for the Liberal Party some eighteen months out from the election and the mood within the electorate did not deviate for the ensuing eighteen months.

      Your statement that “Rudd is only there for as long as he was working for them” is simplistic in the extreme. Seen much of Howard lately? What about Turnbull or Nelson for that matter! Gough Whitlam, Malcolm Fraser! Once a politicians days are numbered we don’t tend to hear much from any of them, that’s the point!

      You also state that the government is inexperienced, I know of no first term government that is experienced, even Howard and Costello, Hawke and Keating stumbled their way through their first terms. And similiar to what we are witnessing in today’s polls, first term governments always struggle to get re-elected, just like Howard’s and Hawke’s.

      Your last paragraph stating economic cluelessness and incompetence made me smile. If we compare the economic credentials against those of Howard and Costello there would be no comparison. Costello was an economic charlatan, inert of policy and lethargic in direction. And all Howard could do was throw away 266 Billion dollars of tax revenue on cash splashes( ironic that when he throws money at the electorate for re-election it’s great policy, when Mr Rudd throws money at the electorate to keep businesses afloat, keep unemployment from the door and the economy ticking over, a politically bias and uneducated minority scream blue murder) and unsustainable middle class welfare. Whilst our ports and rail infrastructure are at the point of collapse, whilst ships wait off our coastline, incurring penalty fees for mining businesses with each day that passes, whilst productivity under Howard dropped to an all time low, Howard and the Liberal Party, through ignorance, incompetence and deception managed to waste the majority of the proceeds from the resource boom on re-election. And if we look at the opposition front bench, we have Abbott, a flip flopper on policy of immense proportions who is on record as stating he has no time for economics and fails to recognise the importance of such principles and his low altitude flying partner, blow hard Hockey, who continually demonstrates that economics is not his forte. Add Joyce to the mix and now the electorate can plainly see economic incompetence.

      I vote Labor, I am not lazy, I am very well read on Australian politics and I refuse to vote for a so called alternative government, a coaliton government that has not and will not make the hard decisions on reforms and has a propensity to lie to the Australian electorate at election time and then try to pass off their lies as core and non core policies after their voted in.

      Jane, do you remember Tony Abbott stating a rock solid. iron clad guarantee on medicare. It wasn’t so rock solid….. and neither is Tony.

    • Ryan says:

      11:53am | 02/02/10

      Evan Findlay, I mean “Evan Findlay of Wooloowin” aren’t you supposed to be doing some pollie work instead of on here publishing your Kevin Rudd like lies?

    • Jane says:

      11:58am | 02/02/10

      Ah, the expected pavlovian ‘response’ from the rusted on Labor apologist - Evan Findlay - ever at the ready, as they are, with typeset sanctimony and superiority rewriting history. Yes, I’m so ‘naive’ politically….and you’re so wise and knowledgeable.  Too predictable….and too funny really.

      The only bit I care to be bothered responding to is your second last paragraph….
      You obviously didn’t ‘get it’ or chose not to about the reasons for the win. There will always be those that vote one way or the other….for a Party regardless…but it’s the swingers who actually ‘change’ government. Those small % ‘swingers’ that weigh up what suits and thoughtfully evaluate and take an interest in voting…and the larger % of ‘other’ swingers. These ‘other’ swingers I refer to. I think the giveaway ‘clue’ was when I said this…..

      “The operative ‘electorate’ on the result ( I think I termed them ‘lazily complacent’ if you read further ) was certainly ‘influenced’ about how to vote by the ‘in your face’ media…it’s pretty much all they use to guage. “

      .....as to what portion of Labor voters I was referring to. Ooops. But then you knew that didn’t you.

      Really hit a nerve at ALP central didn’t I?... that’s good enough for me. smile

    • Evan Findlay says:

      12:56pm | 02/02/10

      Jane, just because people don’t agree with your right wing fanatical views and cast their vote based on media clippings does not make them lazy or complacent. They simply, and with more intellectual prowess than is displayed by you, are not in agreement. Just because people read it doesn’t make them bad people, you should try it for yourself sometime that way you wouldn’t come across as ill informed. I notice that you don’t care to respond to my statements and I understand that. It would be hard in your position to argue against the monumental waste of taxpayers money by the previous conservative government, in fact you might actually have to do some research in order to refute my comments and I wouldn’t want to inconvenience you by making you climb out of that festering hole of simplistic and narrow minded diatribe that you purport to be fact.
      The other thing I find humorous not only by your post Jane but also by the other right wingers in these forums is that you feel, as conservatives, that you are the only ones to have an opinion or should be listened too. It must be a genetic disposition of the conservative elite, even your counterparts in Canberra still believe they are running the country.

    • Neil says:

      11:34am | 02/02/10

      Abbott must have hit a chord with his speach to young Liberals, the media hardly went near it. In a democracy you would think the media could also share with Australia his comments or extracts from his speach. Here it is have a read.
      http://www.tonyabbott.com.au/Pages/Article.aspx?ID=3919

    • Muzz says:

      12:38pm | 02/02/10

      I didn’t even know he made this speech? It must not have been in Rudd/Labors best interest to report on it. Where were the media? Kevin only has to fart and the media are there ready to spin his rhetoric for him.

    • Laura says:

      01:06pm | 02/02/10

      The media don’t want you to hear this sort of information from Abbott because it could have affect the polls. Labor look like they are going to need all the help they can get this year, especially from the media. Very good speech incidently, shame it wasn’t reported in the media, the polls this morning may have been even worse for Labor.

    • Ryan says:

      11:41am | 02/02/10

      Eno, how Australian of you, attacking one of our proudest Australian symbols. If you hate surf-lifesavers just come out and say it rather than beating about the bush with a pathetic comment about budgie smugglers.

    • Timmo says:

      08:56am | 04/03/10

      Well Ryan, re your love of budgie smuggling lifesavers, i thought i would put this forward. Something that actually happened. Some years ago people started playing their drums in the park next to the Burleigh Heads Lifesaving Club. The Drumming Group was attended by families, kids all ages and the Indonesian Community. During the evening 50 or so Pissed lifesavers from that club arrived on the scene and took over. Grabbing peoples property, calling indonesians or anyone with darker skin, monkeys and one idiot masturbating in front of a woman and her kids. Of course the local police were called and nothing was done, typical. Well I used to support the lifesaving movement but after that little beauty they can stick it from me. This actually happened. Imagine one of these cretins putting their hands on your kids in the surf. And you think these people are australian heroes.!

    • Anjuli says:

      11:41am | 02/02/10

      To Saskia ,you are right ,many years ago as a young girl I was told by a very elderly lady that if you vote labor you vote for yourself by voting conservative it was the UK it is a vote for ones country.I did not vote conservative till I came to Australia as I found that nearly all of the Labor party was made up of unionists,who were chasing their own agenda.

    • H of SA says:

      11:49am | 02/02/10

      Wayne, you mentioned the Libs having to take on Labor and the media barons - personally I think the media is the Libs biggest ally.

      Look at it this way:

      1.  Media corporations exist to make more money for their shareholders
      2. They want to pay less tax as this will mean they make more money
      3. The Liberal party offers lower company tax than Labor
      4. Therfore there is more money for Media corporations to make by having a Liberal government

      Considering that who are the commercial media more likely to be biased toward? Who pays the piper plays the tune. You do the math.

    • Ryan says:

      02:33pm | 02/02/10

      What about 5. Dumbing down the population means the advertisers make more money by selling stuff to gullable people and pay more for advertising thereby making more money for the media companies.  Therefore a populist government with a populist Krudderlist leader is better for the Media.

    • William Kershaw says:

      11:50am | 02/02/10

      Correct.  As my mother always said ‘the Labor Party is the party of spite and envy of ones betters..’  Love to see the end of compulsory voting which keeps the ALP in power.  I guess I don’t blame those who are uninformed voting for the Labor donkey vote to get the ‘handouts’,-  we can’t expect much more, no, I am sad they we have such an archaic system here that means those that are not qualified to vote control our destiny.  Until we move with the times we will have a high chance of being run by unqualified career public servants, Marxist Union officials and various crackpot social manipulators.  None of who would be fit to fun even the most basic of private enterprises nor whom have ever generated real income other than living like maggots of the taxpayer.

    • John A Neve says:

      12:35pm | 02/02/10

      William Kershaw @ 1150hrs
      Just who is “not qualified to vote” in your view?
      I think your mother obviously had a problem, no “spite and envy” on her part?
      I did not know that Democracy was the realm of the elite !!
      Please tell us all William, who should be allowed to vote in your view?

    • H of SA says:

      12:50pm | 02/02/10

      I must admit I’d never seen it that way David, thanks for the warning. I will stock up on cold weather clothing and heavy shoes to deal with this menace….

    • Evan Findlay says:

      11:50am | 02/02/10

      My comments were made towards Jane, comment made at 10:18 and not David Penberty’s article. The reply button on this forum doesn’t seem to work too well!

    • Nicholas says:

      11:50am | 02/02/10

      D’oh? Have you hit your head Homer?

      Labour Governments have been inpower in most States for a long time. Some states prosper while others do not based on the natural distribution of resources and economic activity. This demonstrates quite clearly as states above that economic prosperity has little to do with the government of the day in a stable country like Australia. NSW is a great place to live but all all the action is in South Australia, WA and Queensland because of the mining boom! You also need to examine the distribution of the GST as well - this is done from Federal Coffers and the States are given a share of this. Corporate taxes (eg: On the pofits of mining companies) are collected by the Commonwealth - not the states.

      So you may want to check up on your facts a little before commenting again Homer?

      I’m also a decerning voter - Although I will be voting for Federal Labour I will not be voting for State Labour in NSW because of personalities I dislike (Eddy Obeid, Joe Tripodi). If the coalition didn’t have a religious nut telling women what to do with their bodies (even if by implication with how he raises his daughters) I may even consider voting for them. For instance, I would listen to Peter Costello, I would give him a few minuets of my time. I will not however tolerate Tony Abbott preaching / espousing moral virtues to me. Save it for the church and your private life like Kevin Rudd does…

      I’m ALSO attracted to Labours front bench. You just can’t go past Julia Guilard! I hope she is our first female prime minister. She is so down to earth and well spoken. She has the opposition for dinner…

      While on the opposition front bench you have idiots like Julie Bishop… who behaves like a spiteful school girl!

      ...

    • Evan Findlay says:

      11:52am | 02/02/10

      *

            Evan Findlay says:

            11:30am | 02/02/10

            What a delusional and ill informed piece of right wing political phlegm.  In my years of following Australian politics, and there numbers are many, I have watched as all first term governments struggle to find their feet and implement the policies to which they were elected into office on.

            Jane, you state in your sordid and naive post that the media is somehow responsible for the elevation of Mr Rudd and the Labor government to power. You obviously don’t read The Australian, The Courier Mail, in fact any of the Murdoch tabloids. You obviously don’t listen to 2GB. And could you please explain the alliances of journalists such as Bolt, Ackerman, Albretschen, Milne, Stitchbury, McCann, Colless, Jones (both Steve and Alan). The truth to why the Labor party was elected in 2007 was based on three issues. Howard, Workchoices and the Kyoto protocol. This data was collated for the Liberal Party some eighteen months out from the election and the mood within the electorate did not deviate for the ensuing eighteen months.

            Your statement that “Rudd is only there for as long as he was working for them” is simplistic in the extreme. Seen much of Howard lately? What about Turnbull or Nelson for that matter! Gough Whitlam, Malcolm Fraser! Once a politicians days are numbered we don’t tend to hear much from any of them, that’s the point!

            You also state that the government is inexperienced, I know of no first term government that is experienced, even Howard and Costello, Hawke and Keating stumbled their way through their first terms. And similiar to what we are witnessing in today’s polls, first term governments always struggle to get re-elected, just like Howard’s and Hawke’s.

            Your last paragraph stating economic cluelessness and incompetence made me smile. If we compare the economic credentials against those of Howard and Costello there would be no comparison. Costello was an economic charlatan, inert of policy and lethargic in direction. And all Howard could do was throw away 266 Billion dollars of tax revenue on cash splashes( ironic that when he throws money at the electorate for re-election it’s great policy, when Mr Rudd throws money at the electorate to keep businesses afloat, keep unemployment from the door and the economy ticking over, a politically bias and uneducated minority scream blue murder) and unsustainable middle class welfare. Whilst our ports and rail infrastructure are at the point of collapse, whilst ships wait off our coastline, incurring penalty fees for mining businesses with each day that passes, whilst productivity under Howard dropped to an all time low, Howard and the Liberal Party, through ignorance, incompetence and deception managed to waste the majority of the proceeds from the resource boom on re-election. And if we look at the opposition front bench, we have Abbott, a flip flopper on policy of immense proportions who is on record as stating he has no time for economics and fails to recognise the importance of such principles and his low altitude flying partner, blow hard Hockey, who continually demonstrates that economics is not his forte. Add Joyce to the mix and now the electorate can plainly see economic incompetence.

            I vote Labor, I am not lazy, I am very well read on Australian politics and I refuse to vote for a so called alternative government, a coaliton government that has not and will not make the hard decisions on reforms and has a propensity to lie to the Australian electorate at election time and then try to pass off their lies as core and non core policies after their voted in.

            Jane, do you remember Tony Abbott stating a rock solid. iron clad guarantee on medicare. It wasn’t so rock solid….. and neither is Tony.

          Reply

    • N says:

      11:55am | 02/02/10

      John A Neve @ 1013; the instances where debt was accumulated to build the afore mentioned projects had tangible results, a bridge to link Sydney, a hydro scheme to produce power (though poorly utilised!) and an Opera house to, well hold concerts and look pretty!

      The $900 cash bribe has no beneficial tangible result, instead it has helped increase inflation and thereby cost of living, while giving the RBA an excuse to push up interest rates. Comparing the Pacific Rim economy to Europe and the US in terms of the benefit such a stimulus package brought is simply specious. Asian markets were solid and remain so, China / Japan, etc received no stimulus from there governments and are still fine.

      Finally your argument that “this country lives on debt and has for many years”, I liken to a smoker who says “I’ve been smoking a pack a day for 40 years”. Just because that’s the case, doesn’t make it a good thing. People look to the government for leadership, but with there fiscal policy at the moment, its teaching our society a poor lesson; “wack it on credit and let someone else pay down the line”.

    • John A Neve says:

      01:32pm | 02/02/10

      N @ 1155hrs.
      Whether the $900 had tanible benefits or not is open to debate, some would say it helped stave of the recession.

      As to Japan, I would suggest they are far from “fine”, in fact they have been down for some years now. Things are also a bit touchy in China based on all I read, they a tightening the banks lending.

      As to governments giving “leadership”, once again I would point out in a democracy the people are the government. Personal debt eg. creditcard is at an all time high, government is only following our lrad.

    • Leigh says:

      11:55am | 02/02/10

      All the money Rudd handed out to ‘save’ Australia has yet to be paid back; there is the the taxation review with rumours of ‘congestion taxes”, the congestion being caused by Rudd’s high immigration mania; there is the Copenhagen flop which made Rudd look really silly, but he still wants to bring in his mad ETS. If Labor does get another term, it will be down to the stupidity of Australian voters.

    • Nicholas says:

      11:57am | 02/02/10

      Very well said.

    • watty says:

      11:58am | 02/02/10

      Or maybe the Daily Telegraph and other Murdoch publications will put their weight behind Rudd as they did in 2007 when you were Editor?

      Sorry!Forgot! You claimed that was a “committee decision” on that occasion.

    • time says:

      11:59am | 02/02/10

      Not this time mate, there will be some real things coming out soon that will really damage krudd .climate gate lies is bad eneough butthis is even worse ,its all about timing.

    • Manik says:

      12:00pm | 02/02/10

      The Newspoll result is not accurate. It takes into account the preference distribution from the 2007 election which produced some anomalies in voting patterns - in that seats that were Liberal registered significant protest votes. Even if half those voters come back to the Liberals the result predicted today will be totally different. The Government may win. BUT there is every possibility they will NOT!

    • Alicia says:

      12:03pm | 02/02/10

      Great speech, funny how the media wanted to keep it out of the news. More proof the media are one sided. This sort of stuff should have been all over the news, and yet NOTHING? I agree the media should be doing their bit for democracy, it isn’t hppening in Australia.

    • Greg says:

      12:06pm | 02/02/10

      Julia doesn’t wear skirts. She is a pantsuit.

    • Jane says:

      12:06pm | 02/02/10

      LOL…yeah, you wish Eno. . Pretty enoooooormouuuuuuus bridge you’d need then. Just make it go away..that’s the response?
      No, I don’t think we should dismiss all that and shove it under the carpet…I think it should be addressed and ‘out there’ for comment!!!
      Care to comment?

      I don’t think the ALP apologists like it when the ‘public’ blogs and it’s not as they like. The ALP have employed ‘blogger’s’ to manipulate opinion under multiple nics on news-sites and blogs for a decade….bit rich to accuse others on it now.

    • Ryan says:

      12:13pm | 02/02/10

      @Mabeline: well Tony Abbot IS a surf-lifesaver and a well respected one at that so your comment about outward appearances while being very offensive is much like Eno’s an attack on surf-lifesavers and the way they dress.

    • Turner Garfield says:

      12:17pm | 02/02/10

      So our Prime Mnister is a ‘criminal’? Let’s say, for arguement sake, he oredered Australian military forces to take part in the invasion of a sovereign nation, on false and falsified ‘intelligence’ and the say-so of a pathological manic and congenital idiot; what would that make him? A war criminal. I suggest you consider your arguements and the horrendous litany of outrages committed in ‘our’ name under the previous federal government before you post your ‘ideas’ in the electronic media.

    • Dasher says:

      12:18pm | 02/02/10

      Persephone, sounds like 1975 to me mate. “It’s time, Kevin ‘07”. “Education revolutions”. It’s the same rubish we’ve heard from Labor before and we never learn. That’s the relevance. In 1975 Labor lost a federal election largely because of an unconstitutional finance deal with Khemlani. You can read all the people rewriting history that you like but it was dodgy as anything. Where’s my L.A.W. tax cuts? What happened to Rollback? “No child shall live in poverty” or without a laptop it seems. My kids are still waiting. All they’ll get is the debt bill these monkeys will leave behind. Labor has history and it aint good! Remember the noise Labor made when petrol prices hit $1 a litre. What are you paying at the pump today?

    • Matt says:

      12:19pm | 02/02/10

      Eno, Big business haven’t got time, their schedules are full of meetings with ALP MPs figuring out how to replace the 100’s of millions they now won’t get from Rudd’s ETS.

    • Peter says:

      12:19pm | 02/02/10

      Howard did nothing for border patrol, all he did was divert boats to pacific nations and paid them 3 times as much as what it would have cost us to look after them ourselves. I wonder if border patrol issues would be such a big deal if it were English refugees fleeing Europe? I wonder if they’ll get accused of queue jumping when the internationally recognised process of seeking assylum is to rock up to that country and ask for it.. If you don’t like the refugee convention that the Australian Government signed, i suggest you get in contact with your local MP rather than just whinge about it. It’s not Rudd’s fault, nor was it Howards and nor will it be Abbotts. But your claim that Howard had our borders more secure by diverting boats is ridiculous. We still divert boats to Christmas Island, but we look after them ourselves as its cheaper than selling off the political problems to some other country.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      12:23pm | 02/02/10

      To N comment made at 11:55 “China and Japan received no stimulus from their governments” Your argument suddenly became laughable. I would suggest you do some research before making an idiot of yourself! I ask the question N, Do you own a credit card, personal loan, mortgage? Are they not debt? Are you not taking a gamble with other people’s money?

    • N says:

      01:29pm | 02/02/10

      Evan Findlay @ 1223; Sorry I may have been a little unclear, Japan, China and alike didn’t hand out cheques to its citizens. Instead they invested in public works schemes. Something that this government should have done solely if there was a need to inject capital into the economy. Supposing you got a cheque (I didn’t, apparently Labor likes to alienate high income earners), what did you spend it on? Taiwanese / Chinese made goods? I would suspect that’s where the vast majority went for many people, which only helps exacerbate the trade deficit. Hardly beneficial to the Australian economy
      . Don’t have a personal loan or credit card, I do have a mortgage though; which in fiscal terms is “good debt” unlike credit cards and personal loans.

    • craig says:

      07:32pm | 02/02/10

      I recall Evan Findlay of wooliwin used part of his 900 on roof racks for his car , more than llikly made in and imported from China

    • Greg says:

      12:24pm | 02/02/10

      Clearly the ALP is an absolute disaster on border protection and immigration. But the Liberals aren’t much better. Abbott also supports mass immigration and the dilution of Australian culture. Howard was the same, talking up border protection while opening the floodgates to legal immigrants and creating the permanent residency via education payment bribe.

    • Francis Forbes says:

      12:27pm | 02/02/10

      Rudd by half a length, I cant see him losing this one. But with a reduced majority. In Qld and NSW the ALP are bit on the nose of the voters due to the State Governments. The only thing that could undo Rudd is Rudd himself and hes to smart a player to let that happen. I reckon he must have a couple of dos and donts.

      - DONT
      - talk about the ETS
      - focus on health
      - talk about immigration and assylym seekers
      - be seen in together with Bligh or Kenealy. pure poison.

      DO
      -bang on and on about the economy
      - have long term goals that people will foget
      - education reveloution whilst unpopular with teachers - parents love it and it sounds awesome.
      - whip up some gerneral fear of the opposition and it leader link them with the far right if possible. churchy - weirdo, you know if Abbott is PM we will all have to become Catholic kinda stuff it works a treat.
      - have ideas that are simple for the public to understand but dont really deliver too much. Grocey watch, Fuel watch etc.

      Abbott should play the me too card a bit and pick is battle ground, the Government has to govern all area but the opposition can afford no to comment of have a half baked response. I look forward to the tactics that both side will employ to try gain the upper hand

    • Greg says:

      12:27pm | 02/02/10

      Paul, you sound like somebody who cannot sustain a reasoned argument, and is forced to resort to calling people names. These days, a racist is defined as anybody who is winning an argument against a politically correct left winger.

    • paul says:

      01:18pm | 02/02/10

      Greg,
      I don’t mind an argument, I just cringe to think of another election fought on the ugly subtext of ill-informed racism.  I can see it happening this time because Abbott will be desperate enough, and it makes me ashamed to be Australian that such a substantial minority of my compatriots think this way.

    • watty says:

      12:29pm | 02/02/10

      Rudd HAD money in the bank when he took over from Howard which he squandered on his own popularity and vote catching.

      To maintain this level of ‘popularity” he has reached new heights in handouts, both national and international (Copenhagen springs to mind) which will leave Australia mired in debt for decades.

      Rudd’s “price of popularity” will be paid by Australian taxpayers not those who rely on Centrelink for their housing and sustenance.

    • Mars says:

      01:27pm | 02/02/10

      I agree.  Whether you agree with her politics or not she is a star performer.  I voted for labour in the past but it certainly won’t be happening again.  5 weeks into the new year and we have the 9th vessel with illegals.  Go Labour.

    • pete says:

      12:32pm | 02/02/10

      well no matter who gets in, I know who wont win and thats the people of australia, because the only interests that wil be served, is their self interests.

    • David Icke says:

      12:32pm | 02/02/10

      A lot of people commenting here on this page make a lot of sound arguments both for against Rudd and Abbott, but surely you are all overlooking one critical issue. Both Rudd and Abbott and clearly part of the intergalactic reptilian conspiracy to conquor planet earth and drive mankind into slavery. Join the dots people! When Rudd talks about an “education revolution” he’s not talking about improving our school system, what he really means is the reptilian revolution, a time when he and his fellow space lizard travellers will shift out of their human shape, reveal their scales and institute the dictatorship of the tetrapods. And why doesn’t Abbott care about global warming? Could it be he doesn’t believe in the science, or maybe he just wants the earth’s tempreture to rise to facilitate earth’s colonisation by his cold-blooded lizard people allies on planet Zorbgabdon? You have been warned.

    • Bob says:

      05:33pm | 02/02/10

      @David Icke - not another loony conspiracy nut! Everyone knows it’s the Iluminati who are pulling the strings. Stop deceiving people, or are you one of them and trying to distract us from the truth?

    • Greg says:

      12:51pm | 02/02/10

      The right to vote for a government that spends taxpayers money should be limited to the taxpayers who pay at least $10k per annum of tax (with ongoing inflation adjustments), plus those who have contributed over $200k of tax over their lifetimes (to protect retired taxpayers).
      Spouses of such taxpayers should also be eligible, so that at-home parents are not restricted from voting.
      Welfare dependant bludgers who do not make a financial contribution should not have a say in how other people’s money gets spent.

    • I get 20 votes! says:

      01:12pm | 02/02/10

      Greg what about people that pay around $200,000k tax per annum, should they get more votes than someone who pays less. Your argument is flawed and basically rules out an open democracy.

    • Phillip Dover says:

      01:23pm | 02/02/10

      Surely voting should be limited only to people who have served in the armed forces.

      If you are not prepared to put you life on the line then you shouldn’t have the right to determine your contry’s future.

    • VOTE LABOR OUT says:

      12:52pm | 02/02/10

      David, David, David ... thought we’d agreed not to talk about the lizards.

    • Peter says:

      12:57pm | 02/02/10

      Anyone here who thinks that the Labour Party or the Liberal Party have anything other than the interests of big business in mind is kidding themselves. Democracy died many years ago. Every election we get 2 big business stooges to choose from.

    • Warnie says:

      12:58pm | 02/02/10

      I dont particularly favour either party but I think that Labor has done a decent job since coming to office.

      The GFC was a pretty nasty surprise that they had to face and I think they did a good job managing us through it. Whilst we have to give credit to the state of the budget left by Howard…this wasnt the only factor that we need to take into account. Labor could have really stuffed it up if they hadnt managed it properly. I also think if Howard and Costello did not splash around all that money in their last term in office we could have been better prepared for the GFC.

      The GFC clearly impacted a number first term initiatives that Labor would have liked to have done by now.

      From my perspective the jury is out on Tony Abbott. I am really sceptical about a guy who goes on record and supports the ETS and then a month or two later he changes his mind. It will be interesting to see the liberal climate change policy in the next couple of weeks.

      I also dont get a lot of confidence in the liberal front bench. Julie Bishop a “loyal” deputy leader under 3 liberal leaders?, Joe Hockey as Treasurer?...and Barnaby Joyce on the front bench at all? They need some more time in opposition…..I would actually like to see some policy rather than them just saying ‘no’ to everything the goverment puts up.

      I believe Labor has done (and shown enough) to have another term in office. But they will really have to deliver in their second term if they are to stay in government past that.

    • Pete says:

      01:00pm | 02/02/10

      T-shirt:

      Kevin Again, 2010

    • Kika says:

      01:05pm | 02/02/10

      Who are the criminals? Aliens? Evidence and facts please.

    • D'oh says:

      01:07pm | 02/02/10

      @ Nicholas:

      “Have you hit your head Homer?”

      [face palm]

      “NSW is a great place to live but all all the action is in South Australia, WA and Queensland because of the mining boom!”

      Notwithstanding the fact that I mentioned ALL states, whether you like it or not, NSW does have significant mining assets.  And aren’t they ALL in bang up shape at the moment…..

      “You also need to examine the distribution of the GST as well - this is done from Federal Coffers and the States are given a share of this.”

      Exactly, so the States managed to cash in on the Federal coffers (increased by the mining boom) and they are still in trouble.

      “If the coalition didn’t have a religious nut telling women what to do with their bodies (even if by implication with how he raises his daughters) I may even consider voting for them.”

      Wrong, what advice would you give your daughters….just bang him love??

      “Save it for the church and your private life like Kevin Rudd does…”

      Sunday photo moments outside Rudd’s church? 

      “You just can’t go past Julia Guilard! I hope she is our first female prime minister. She is so down to earth and well spoken.”

      She completely lied/spun Tony Abbott’s advice to his daughters to suit her personal attack.  not the kind of person I would like to be running the nation.

      Please Nicholas don’t insult my intelligence.  Check your own logic before presenting your arguments.

    • watty says:

      01:16pm | 02/02/10

      Congratulations to Rudd sycophant Evan Findlay.

      He actually named EIGHT Right Wing journos out of the hundreds in the Canberra Press Gallery,the ABC,SBS, the free to air TV channels, the multitude employed at FM radio stations and the travelling Rudd Media Corps.

      Couldn’t have highlighted the Left Wing dominance in the Australian “meeja” better myself Evan.

    • Zeta says:

      01:19pm | 02/02/10

      The wilderness years of Opposition teach a Party self-discipline and respect. Government teaches them arrogance and excess. Rudd might have started with a pretty high bar for arrogance, and his spending shows he doesn’t care about splashing around the cash when he feels like it, but the Federal Liberal Party hasn’t learned the harsh lessons of Opposition yet.

      The big reason for this is a lack of relevancy deprivation after the ‘07 loss. The normal election cycles puts a new Opposition swiftly in their place. They’re irrelevant to the public debate, and utterly powerless. It’s like those formative first few months for fresh meat in Long Bay. It starts with anger, as they rail against their new captors (in the case of Canberra, the Press Gallery) who won’t allow them the freedoms they’re used to (showing up late for pressers, holding pressers every 10 minutes, long, winding junkets through the heartland), then it turns to depression, and constant complaining (we got some of that with Rudd’s logistical allowance reforms). Before long, they settle into their new regime, they flex their muscles every now and then, but other wise, they’re compliant, and spend their days planning for their eventual escape or release.

      Because Rudd didn’t win a clear mandate in the Senate, the Coaltion never felt the crushing lows of relevancy deprivation. They’ve been at the centre of public debate on every issue. They haven’t learned the lessons of Opposition, because they’ve convinced themselves they’re a Government-in-Exile, waiting for the people to see the light and deliver them home after only three years away.

      This isn’t the cycle of an effective new Government. Look at NSW. It’s taken the Coalition 15 years to get into election winning mode. Fast forward from their defeat by Carr to today, and you see a disciplined, respectful, smart Opposition taking calculated risks, responding effectively to crisis and keeping a lid on their internal factions.

      Before Australia can welcome the Coaltion back as their rightful masters, the Coaltion needs lessons in humility. They need to be reminded of the passion that brought them to power in ‘96. If they win now, they’ll be a Government without direction, and without a soul.

      I hate to say it, but they need to wait. They need to become an experienced, competent Opposition before they can be given the reigns of Government again.

      They also need a Leader who doesn’t show up to his first major policy announcement (the one happening RIGHT NOW on Sky) in a clown’s tie. Seriously. That knot is the size of a fist. It’s disgusting.

    • William Kershaw says:

      01:53pm | 02/02/10

      It is a ‘Windsor Knot’ you goose.  I don’t expect you or your ilk to know this or even have need for a tie - but please keep your rantings to yourself.  Oh how proud you must be of your ‘christian socialist fiscal conservative strip show with no strippers invisible Brian Burke saw Colin Cowdrey at the GABBA when he wasn’t there sick on dagwood dog that was never served kicked off farm but actually wasn’t father died due to hospital fault was drunk driver big australia no view on the population’ PM

    • H of SA says:

      02:13pm | 02/02/10

      You know you’ve made a good post when the only recourse to the rusted on voter is to attack your flippant remark with an ad hominem

    • Wallace says:

      02:24pm | 02/02/10

      David Icke says:12:32pm
      Lizards? You have it all wrong there my boy, Rudd and Abbott are not part of any suppossed “reptile” conspiracy, they are part of the international salamander conspiracy. Yes, like Obama, the Queen of England, Tony Blaire and John English, Rudd and Abbott are both giant mexican walking fish, disguised in human form and secretly plotting to one day seize absolute power from us human folk. I’ve been aware of the axoltl menance for years, its time the rest of society woke up to this imminent danger! Don’t believe me? Try these facts on for size,  True fact no1: Tony Abbott only eats little bits of meat dangled in front of his face. True fact no2: Rudd has a large fish tank installed in the Lodge which he and Therese get into every night and plod about in. You “lizard” conspiracy theorists are all a bunch of whack jobs.

    • Betelnut says:

      02:37pm | 02/02/10

      Billy don’t be a hero…

    • Steve Smith says:

      02:39pm | 02/02/10

      The Coalition are not in “winning mode” in NSW. More accurately Labour government are in “losing mode”.

    • Tex says:

      01:26pm | 02/02/10

      Anyone tried to get a bricklayer, carpenter, plumber, tiler or any other trade lately? These guys are flat out - I spoke to a builder yesterday, 12 month waiting list just to start the job - The point is the trades have lots of money in their pocket, consumer spending is ticking along nicely - Labor quite rightly in response to the GFC stimulated the economy with its spending as opposed to the Libs, if you believe them, who would have let unemployment sky rocket costing us even more. Despite what conservatives say climate change is still a big issue with people, especially those with young kids - Abbott says its “crap” – any policy he comes up with will be disingenuous - I can’t in good conscience vote for someone who thinks main stream science is “crap”. The Libs will lose at the next election – Abbott will be road kill, Hockey will become leader.

    • H of SA says:

      01:56pm | 02/02/10

      I tend to agree with you Tex. Even if Abbot, Minchin ect are right about climate change being false, the disrespect they have shown for the science that says climate change is real is concerning.

      We haven’t had what sounds like a serious and careful consideration of both sides of the science,and labelling the mainstream science “crap” says some concerning things about the mindset.

      Its not that they think it is false, its the lack of demonstrating a self-relfective approach which would consider the mainstream science which concerns me.

    • craig says:

      07:24pm | 02/02/10

      i needed some paving done , called the guy thursday and it was finished Monday( yesterday) but he is so hard up and short of work , he dropped in to my office today to pick up the cash. I am not sure wher you are but Not much work is happening in Brisbane or South East Queensland

    • halberstram says:

      01:28pm | 02/02/10

      I hope you include people who advantage themselves of Howard’s Family Tax benefits, Baby Bonus and Childcare Rebate as also relying on Centrelink.

      Somebody had to pay for those handouts - and it certainly wasn’t the recipients ( shall we call a spade a spade and call them “welfare recipients”)

    • Evan Findlay says:

      01:33pm | 02/02/10

      Talk is cheap watty! Lol.

    • watty says:

      03:58pm | 02/02/10

      “Talk is cheap watty”  Is that your best shot Evan ?

      YOU higlighted the “wave” of Right Wing journos…..8 from memory…who RULE our press,TV and radio political scene.

      Naivety is even cheaper.

    • paul says:

      01:37pm | 02/02/10

      Who would you vote for?  A turd sandwich, or a giant douche?

    • Zac says:

      01:37pm | 02/02/10

      Why wouldn’t David support Kevin. He did that in the last election and he’ll do the same this time. It does help his living and leftist principles.I wonder how many comments he hasn’t published. Well, again secularists have never liked democracy. It’s also a good trick to publish a article like this to deflect attention from Comrade Rudd and especially the Labor party. It’s Labor party that is driving this country to debt and Rudd is just leading this scam.

    • Punter says:

      01:44pm | 02/02/10

      well said Zeta…best response to this article

    • BULMKT says:

      01:58pm | 02/02/10

      Hmmm many thought that Massachusetts’ was going to be a slam dunk for the Democrats and look what happened. Politics is a volatile profession and while I tend to agree with your Penbo, anything can and probably will happen.
      At least your punches, Penbo, are worth reading. The one written by Nick Champion yesterday was the worse punch I had ever read. I hope it’s the last we hear from him. He should be filed under dumbass.

    • short memories says:

      02:03pm | 02/02/10

      i suspect we must a a few liberal staffers writing here or other s have a
        memory lapse

          what a   ABOUT WORCK CHOICES.
          it would be a;; about abbotts work choice which i suspect would be even worse than howard’s work choices
      come on people you must be all joking.

    • Rex says:

      02:28pm | 02/02/10

      Lets see, under Howard we did not kneel to any man. Under Rudd we bow to all our creditors and beg. A person or country who owes money is a slave to their creditor. That is why Rudd learned Chinese, so he can beg more ardently for some loans.
      Dont forget, the government has no money, it gets it from the people. The money they have borrowed YOU must pay back or suffer reduced services.

    • H of SA says:

      02:03pm | 02/02/10

      Wise words Zeta, Penbo I want to join other punchers in suggesting you offer Zeta (his? her?) own spot on then punch. On condition there continues to be refrences to Bowie

    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      02:09pm | 02/02/10

      How is this for an example of bias in the media against the coalition. Ashleigh Gillon hosted Playing Politics on Sky News in the lead up to Tony Abbott’s policy launch this morning.
      Her guest’s were Aus Poll’s Tim Gartrell who used to be the former National secretary of the Labor Party and Ben McNeil, the Senior Fellow at the Climate Change Research Centre of the University of NSW. Talk about stacking a program to get the desired results. Come off badly though as poor old Ben got stage fright big time. You could see all the rehearsing in front of the mirror at home just hadn’t been enough and it wasn’t pretty. I am now going to do away with Sky News completely. I just signed up with select TV.
      Sky News political team are so biased towards Labor that it is obvious.

    • Jane says:

      02:55pm | 02/02/10

      I saw it too and went to the Sky news website to comment/complain…no facility there that I could find..
      I don’t watch Sky because of the fact anyway….but watched for Abbott’s launch.
      I have blackballed them from now on too.
      An absolute disgrace. They are SO bias it’s gagworthy. I concur with the ‘stage fright’ bit from Ben…he had it well rehearsed alright…..the only way he got through it!!! Pathetic.
      Sky are a JOKE

    • watty says:

      03:37pm | 02/02/10

      Don’t waste your time Jane.SKY has a “your say” section which goes straight to their delete box.


      I have been aware of the Speers,Kieran,Asleigh   Labor love in since their “live’ cover of Rudd’s “best and brightest” gabfest in Canberra and ,if anything , they are more rusted to Rudd on than even then..

      They make Red Kerry and the Jones boy sound like the lunatic fringe of the far Right but provide more unintentional laughs than Comedy Hour.

    • TIMFROMTHETOPEND says:

      02:11pm | 02/02/10

      Enjoy your trip. Iceland would probably be to your liking it is now completely broke, thanks to bad government policy and decisions. Pack some woolies!

    • Rex says:

      02:19pm | 02/02/10

      David, you were the one who said you were in favour of the Labour party at the last election at the Daily Telegraph.  You have since been booted out by your new boss. Now you have found a new new “progressive” newspaper in the Australian which every day is more left leaning.  Your article is just a wish as you dont want to admit you were wrong in 2007. Unfortunately, the world does not care about you, and the Liberals will be voted in to clean up the Labour mess.

    • Saskia says:

      02:25pm | 02/02/10

      Brilliant William!  That is total gold.  That’s what I love about the Laborite all they can do is hate - they NEVER EVER list the ‘achievements’ of the ALP or tell us why they like their leaders.  Maybe it is because they never do anything but spend taxpayers money like a drunken brickies labourer.  So many lies from Kevin Rudd it is incredible - anyone who lies about the small things as this man does should never ever be trusted.  Why would a normal person lie about so many little things?  Rudd exhibits all the signs of a sociopath.

    • Earnie says:

      02:30pm | 02/02/10

      Hey who are you to slandering Australian Bricklayers.. if they were so drunk all the time we would have no housing or buildings. With a name like yours I would be very careful slandering anyone. I am voting for Labor with dipsticks like you voting for Liberal I am voting for the other side

    • Bobby Evans says:

      02:26pm | 02/02/10

      This seems like a face-saving asterisk!

    • BigBob says:

      02:34pm | 02/02/10

      You need to get a job and stop bludging on the Australian Taxpayer. You can’t be doing much work sitting here whinging all day

    • Greg says:

      05:22pm | 02/02/10

      I’m currently taking annual leave, what’s your excuse?

      (And I don’t work for the government either, so I’m not bludging on any taxpayers).

    • Betelnut says:

      02:35pm | 02/02/10

      Absolutely.  Voting should be limted to men (too important to be left to irrational, menstruating women), who own land, have served in the armed forces for a minimum of 5 years, have payed at least $10k pa in tax for at least 10 years, know all second verse to Advance Australia Fair and can verifiably prove they have never taken one red cent in governement money i.e. have spurned the baby bonus, FTB, FHG, pink batts, solar rebates and the $900 cash splash.

    • Rex says:

      02:50pm | 02/02/10

      Greg S,  dont be so naive,  James H.P. will just make a few more kids to gather in the welfare dollars. See there is always a solution. When the money runs out and welfare stops they can all form a singing group on busker row.

    • Greg says:

      05:23pm | 02/02/10

      It sounds like Betelnut is ruling herself out then.

    • Greg S says:

      02:37pm | 02/02/10

      James H.P, what happens when there is no financial crisis for you to receive a stimulous payment ?  This is no reason for justifying voting for someone.

    • N says:

      02:51pm | 02/02/10

      Sign me up!

    • iansand says:

      03:14pm | 02/02/10

      It’s a full moon, isn’t it?

    • Miles says:

      03:19pm | 02/02/10

      Rudd will probably win the next election….  But that’s not due to his ability as a PM.  It’s more to do with the lack of intelligence and interest shown by the australian public.  Considering an overwhelming percentage would not have a clue what policies are being considered or implemented at any given time, they are quite happily to be herded in any particular direction - much like the sheep they are.  If you dangle a paltry $900 in front of them, they will take notice (and will not think deep enough to consider how much more than this they will have to pay in the long run).  But when it comes to serious issues which WILL effect each and every one of us, nobody does any research - they are quite happy to accept the media’s ‘unbiased’ (yeah right) views.

    • GBS says:

      03:27pm | 02/02/10

      Young Clive says:12:16pm | 02/02/10-They also gave pensioners the first real payrise in years. Are you for real?? They gave with one hand took from the other. Small increased and cut other payments made to pensioners like telephone discount. Please people get the facts and know we are being taxed to bits. I will never vote for Rudd-NEVER!

    • Orchid says:

      03:35pm | 02/02/10

      What a disgusting thing to say. Boat people have been coming here since the vietnam war in the seventies. So its ok for thousands of europeans to over stay there visas when they fly in but its not ok for people who are fleeing war torn countries to come here. Maybe you should take a trip overseas and have a look at the millions of refugees that are being taken in by other countries. One day you may be a refugee and will find out what a horrifying thing it is to have no country to call home. Talk about being scared of your own shadow.

    • Peter says:

      04:25pm | 02/02/10

      The first boat people to arrive to Australia where the convicts that were kicked out of England and sent here. Many more boat people arrived after that.. Not sure who your directing your “what a digusting thing to say” comment to, but i am reading and hearing a lot of disgusting things about what people say about boat people and other immigrants. Everyone here is an immigrant. For so long as we remain a monarchy, only the Aboriginals are Australian. The rest are poms, greeks, italians, vietnemese, chinese and what ever… There is no such thing as a white Australian…

    • Evan Findlay says:

      06:06pm | 02/02/10

      Rex, comment made at 3:51pm. Such a simplistic statement based on ignorance and intolerance. Why are these people fleeing these countries you ask. Some for economic reasons, but mainly because of religious and political persecution and because the likes of George W and his faithful lapdog, Johnny W Howard, bomb the crap out of their house, their community, their family, their employment, their economy. They have nothing left except a steely determination to provide for their families. Futhermore, that most of these countries have a government presiding over them that make Wilson Tuckey look intelligent and saintly is simply another hurdle to overcome. Under John Howard 9000 refugees came to our shores and are making a life for themselves and their families as well contributing to our tax revenue and our community. You would know them Rex, there the ones that do the jobs that you feel is beneath you. Australia is certainly not prosperous for your intellect or comments, or should I say lack of intellect.

    • H of SA says:

      03:36pm | 02/02/10

      If 5 dumbing down the population is the plan then why would they be biased toward the party that historically spends more on education (ALP)?

    • TJ says:

      03:43pm | 02/02/10

      Short Memories - what an appropriate name! You do realise that the biggest change to Work Choices since Rudd came into power is that it’s now called ‘Fair Work’, right? Do some research - the media even called it ‘Work Choices Lite’, and with good reason.

    • Orchid says:

      03:52pm | 02/02/10

      Aliens??? What planet are you living on???

    • Warren Ikin says:

      04:40pm | 02/02/10

      Please refer to my reply to Paul’s suggestion of racism.

    • DL says:

      05:04pm | 02/02/10

      Why is it that all of these Liberal supporters feel the need to come on here and post complete unfounded dribble without any knowledgable background in simple economics?

      Then accuse the media of being bias and attacking their precious man?!?!

      I feel like i’m watching neo-conservative republicans try to defend GWB by shifting blame, all over again.  Except so far, we’ve been smart enough to keep our nut job (Abbot for the uninformed) on the opposition side of the fence.

      Let’s hope it stays that way for the sake of this country :/

    • The Nath says:

      05:15pm | 02/02/10

      Is Kevin Rudd of more worth to this country than a baboon’s nipsy?

    • aletea says:

      06:11pm | 02/02/10

      I’ve never heard Tony Abbott described as baboon’s nipsy before? I like it. Will the dunderheads who lumbered us with Howard for twelve years now burden us with this right wing religious nutjob who thinks us girls should “keep our legs together” and doesn’t really believe in climate change. I just hope NOT.

    • Randal says:

      06:12pm | 02/02/10

      There will be no election victory if Rudd cannot reign in the mad lefties, such as Nick Champion, whose insistence on ranting bile directed at skeptics will only continue to see the polls sliding in the wrong (or right - depending on your side) direction.

      Rudd wants the ETS to die a death in the house this week, and then shuffle it to the back burners, somehow though I cannot see Abbott allowing that to happen.

      It is a rather large smoking gun a tax on everything, and it will end up front and centre in any election… So short of abandoning the ETS (which carries an equal weight of electoral poison) altogether, Mr Rudd is going to have to battle very hard to convince mortgage stressed Australian’s to vote for a new tax.

      This election will be a lot closer than people think, Australian’s do not like voting for new taxes and the ETS is suddenly sitting around Rudd’s neck like and anchor, and the disaster at the IPCC and Copenhagen is not helping one iota.

    • Allie says:

      06:37pm | 02/02/10

      Hi Dave, you are spot on. Labor has been solid, Liberal have been pathetic sooks. When you have children vs children playing, the winning kids are going to be the ones who do more homework - and show more commonsense.

    • Tony Joyce says:

      06:37pm | 02/02/10

      This country needs to get rid of Labor and Liberal. Their both freaking useless. What has either of them done but make the rich richer at the expense of the rest of us. The country is being ruined. Our technology is taken by other countries, so we can buy it back. Our manufacturing is disappearing. Soon we will be lucky if we are growing our own food. Most of us won’t even be able to afford a basic education. I gave Rudd a chance and he has failed miserably. He is a gutless wonder who does not stand up to anyone, apart from those who can’t fight back. He is a sad excuse for a leader. The federal Labor party is looking too much like the NSW Labor party. We can’t risk placing him in for another term.

    • SHAPE UP AND LET THE GAME BEGIN says:

      07:01pm | 02/02/10

      Rudd may win the next election but only just.-.by the skin of his pearly whites. 
      Don’t kid yourselves about Abbott not having enough to sway public opinion.  He will be well rehearsed.  Abbott is well practiced for later public performance :  He is mentally prepare and will be ready to recite political promises well rehearsed by many thousand fine phrases.
      Political criticisms of framing the opposition have been rehearsed often enough by both parties’ predecessors who held office before the current holders.

      A remember Rudd long time before he landed into the hot sit of government.  I could not stand there long enough and listen to the dribble coming out of his mouth, let alone his head bobbing and nodding up and down, looking like a clown at a carnival.  No way in the name of god would the Labour party   ever allow such a person to represent them . Winning an election would have be out of the question as far as I was concerned.  Well, well didn’t prove me wrong. 
      Now Rudd’s bobbing, nodding head has stopped and it only reasonable to assume that Abbott will preform his up-most and give Rudd a run for his money.

    • Pete says:

      07:26pm | 02/02/10

      I agree with you David. A good non-partisan analysis.

      Shame about the partisanship of your comment(er)s, who in the main, just use any politically-related opinion piece in this forum to cheer-lead for their favourite team, rather than actually comment about what you have written.

      I guess that is the problem with a two-party democracy. It’s like football, or war.

    • Heather says:

      07:43pm | 02/02/10

      Only nine words to say:

      Labor’s internet censorship policy is not supported by Abbott.

    • Sandy says:

      08:01pm | 02/02/10

      I agree with Von, KRudd has achieved nothing of significance. Voting him out will send a clear message - perform or get out, talk all you want but deliver the goods. Any new government will feel the heat to deliver. Vote KRudd out people for the better future of this country!

    • KL says:

      08:16pm | 02/02/10

      if this country votes him in again ... they deserve everything they get .... the ONLY reason this country weather the economic problem at all is because of the Howard government - you can’t argue that .... its just a fact .... one the labour government like to gloss over while taking the bows ..... I am a sixth generation australian and this is not my country anymore .. i am ashamed of it ... and i don’t recognise it ....

    • KY says:

      05:23pm | 03/03/10

      LOL….. I enjoy making statements…. with no evidence….. and then i put lots of full stops… and expect readers to take my opinions as their own ... BTW, I’m 8th gen Aussie and I disagree with everything you say, so is my opinion worth more than yours because my family has been here longer than yours?

    • Nick Berry says:

      09:23pm | 02/02/10

      Penbo, mate, what a load of crap. You have stuck your kneck out with this and you know it - you don’t need to drop your pants. Jeff Kennett, with a massive margin, started losing ground in regional seats in 97 and that momentum steamrolled into the city - the same is happening to Rudd now.  Granted, we are in the first term of the Rudd Govt and it was Kennett’s second, but you guys in the media keep telling me that I have a “shorter attention span and less patience” than previous generations of voter. Kennett entered the 1999 election campaign with a seemingly unassailable lead, and most commentators and opinion polls agreed that he would win a third term. With a 30-odd seat majority, he lost - unbelievable. Kennett faced internal party revolts because of his bullying nature.  Rudd is a bully and it is only time before someone from the Labor Left opposes him publicly for some ridiculous tirade about boatpeople or unions - his response will be angry or floppy, leaving him vulnerable. The election is eight months away, not a few months away, because the budget won’t be as bad as everyone thinks and Rudd will want to capitilise on that, not to mention needing to do more about health before end FY09/10.  Abbott is gaining ground because he is real; Rudd is being exposed as a fake. More IPCC shams will be released, the 2PP poll will become tighter, first-termer Labor members will start to get nervous and they will panic and do stupid things.  Finally, do not insult the people of Australia by telling them how they will vote. They hate that. Kennett seemed arrogant and they kicked him out - even a hint of hubris in an election year will kill you - even if the journos are being arrogant for you. This election is wide-open mate.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      12:08am | 03/02/10

      Similiar to the piss weak attempt by the opposition leader tonight on the 7:30 report. If your putting your eggs in his basket then can I suggest that you wrap them. Abbott is gaining no ground, his popularity has gone from 23% to 26%. Lookout! After tonight’s effort and his flimsy attempt at climate change policy, I think he is funny and I guarantee by the next poll, so will the electorate. He is his own worst enemy. He has no intellectual grasp of his own policies nor the needs , wishes or wants of the electorate.

    • Wayne Hutchins says:

      06:16am | 03/02/10

      Got you worried hasn’t it evan, or is that Kevin? Your comments are popping up all over the place. Well Kev, I watched you yesterday mate and you looked lost. Great day for Tony and the coalition hey….

    • Barry says:

      09:42pm | 02/02/10

      Penbo, if Rudd is, as Tony The Todge put it, a “toxic bore” what does that make Howard - a greyer shade of bore?

    • Mike says:

      10:27pm | 02/02/10

      Rudd taxing me (high income earner) more for my power & gas and giving rebates to everyone else is not going to cool the damn planet.  Especially when China’s current CO2 pollution growth in 1 year alone matches the ENTIRE carbon footprint of Australia & they grow that much every year.  Thats how fast China is growing and how tiny we are a part of this business.  And us cutting our CO2 by 5% in 9 years is going to do what?  NOTHING!  And the fact is the scientists are bogus green greedy zealots who just put out junk science so they get constant money grants from the government, Billions is paid to these scientists yearly to come up with more and more reports on how bad & scary climate change is. Google “Climate gate” see how these scientists delete data, bypass freedom of information requests & hide the true temperate measurements its all out there to see.  If you put out a science paper showing Climate change isn’t happening your black balled, fired from your job and never hired again anywhere, oh yes and no government money for you either duh I wonder why the science is settled?  I think we all know why.  I’m sorry if thats the science and there is no questions allowed then you know its junk science.  Rudd will win the next election cause honestly the Australian people don’t have a clue or care.  I’ll end up with more tax to pay thanks to Rudd, and that ETS is another tax on high income earners/hard workers and will end up costing everyone alot more than the palty $1000 he is giving back to low & middle income earners as a bribe..

    • Anne says:

      03:06am | 03/02/10

      Time he went. He must have found himself a couple of options from all those overseas plane trips. This coming term or the one after - off he’ll go on to something nice and well paid and we the the taxpayers will foot the bill for all the past spending.

    • David B says:

      03:04pm | 03/03/10

      David Penberth’s article is sadly a good assessment of whats likely to happen.  This is such a poor reflection on the intelligence of mainstream Australia.  Its hard to believe some of the pro-Labor comments in this chain… how can people be so thick?

    • dunning kruger says:

      05:26pm | 03/03/10

      Everyone is stupid but me.

    • Timmo says:

      08:39am | 04/03/10

      Could one of you pass me a tissue so I can clean all the negative dribble off my screen, it’s getting hard to read here.?

 

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