The sun rises in the east. The sky is blue. And some people are mean on the internet. So when I was faced with a relatively simple task – find some people who identify as trolls to interview for a story – the outcome was a foregone conclusion.

The new Labor cabinet had a few surprise faces

I put calls out on Twitter and Facebook. And in looking for trolls, I got trolled. I was given more suggestions for ways to screw myself than I could find in an edition of Cosmo magazine.

It’s perhaps a reflection on some of the lack of sophistication in the thinking of some trolls that you could be the subject of such hostility for trying to write a story that appeals to them, that speaks for their world view.

And in researching a story from their world view, I received nothing but directionless outrage.

Aren't people lovely

Anonymity didn’t even need to come into it. They didn’t seem to have any problem putting their name to the digital excretia that landed on my Facebook wall, Twitter feed and email.

Until now the dominant theory about people on the internet has been normal person + anonymity + audience = total sh.tc..k (comic courtesy of Mike Krahulik & Jerry Holkins and is taken from their site penny-arcade.com). But is that changing in 2012?

The school blackboard of the future as envisaged under Gonski. Pic: John Gabriel of the Penny Arcade http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19

Could trolling have less to do with anonymity and more to do with triggers?

Mention the words, “troll”, “asylum seeker”, “refugee”, “Gillard”, “Qantas”,  “Apple”, “iPhone” or “religion” and you can bet your socks you’ll be spending your afternoon declining essay length comments spurting hot bubbling volcanos of crazy.

But perhaps what I’ve learned from all this is that without purpose or reason a troll’s mission is to try to make people angry, to incite reactions, to cause bemusement and confusion.

You can look for logic to it. For some there may be a reason, but you suspect for many trolls there is none.

Well played trolls. Well played.

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    • iansand says:

      11:22am | 28/02/12

      Trolls rarely deliberately troll.  They are just nutters and appear to be trolls.  Most of them are deadly serious.

    • Evan says:

      12:34pm | 28/02/12

      And you’d know this because?????

    • Evan says:

      12:34pm | 28/02/12

      And you’d know this because?????

    • Flame says:

      01:23pm | 28/02/12

      It used to be called flaming and it was and remains absolutely deliberate.

      You see, because all (that is, and by which I mean - ALL) flamenoids, who morphed into trolls, have absolutely no life value (that is, and by which I mean, a complete lack of value) with which to trade in real social settings (example: hi how are you, have you seen the new iJigger? - F*CK YOU FANBOI!), they overcompensate in the pretend land of interweb, dispensing forth their superiority at each turn, and growing surer by the insulting reply that they have ‘won’ the internet for today.
      Good places to find them are product review sites, xtian vs atheist threads, whatever’s trending on troller, blogs about MMRPGs - oh fukkit, MMRPGs in general - and dating sites because they’re all single*
      (* But their dating site profile has no evidence of troll tendencies, nor any photos that are fully lit)
      If you look carefully, you can see their brainhamster clanking away in its little wheel.

    • Jason says:

      01:46pm | 28/02/12

      @Flame, Flaming and Trolling are two different things.
      Trolling is deliberately posting to upset/anger people, whereas Flaming is having a go at someone if you either dont agree with their point of view or what they expressed is incorrect.

    • gormster says:

      01:50pm | 28/02/12

      Obvious meta-troll is obvious.

    • Leah says:

      01:50pm | 28/02/12

      Actually, a troll is, by definition, somebody who purposely riles up other people for fun. Often they don’t even believe what they are saying it, they’re saying it for the fun of stirring people up.

      Somebody who unwittingly stirs up arguments with their genuinely-held beliefs isn’t a troll in the slightest.

    • FlameOn says:

      02:29pm | 28/02/12

      Ya’ll posting in a troll thread.

    • rudy says:

      03:07pm | 28/02/12

      Is trolling an outlet for a sociopath’s impotent rage and frustration, which, if vented this way (relatively harmlessly) averts a more harmful and possibly violent form of venting?

    • Brad Coward says:

      04:37pm | 28/02/12

      @iansand…..I agree with your point that trolls rarely deliberately troll.  I completely disagree with your point that the accidental troll is a nutter.  Should a comment immediately be devalued because it goes against the theme of the article/blogsite ?

      There is one particular leftist/feminist blog (ask nicely and I’ll tell you which one) where the regular readers/brainwashed devotees of the publisher are quick to yell “troll” at anyone who ventures onto the site and dares to disagree.  Those who don’t “love” everyone associated with the site/every article that a particualr author has written or the books/products that those associated with the site are flogging are spoken down to by the fans.  In fact, the more crawly-bumlick you are about the publisher, the more your comment is valued.  Dare to stick up for the target of the unfair and spiteful criticism of the daily hate campaign and you find yourself banned from the site. 

      Just because you haven’t fallen into maelstrom created by the author/publisher doesn’t mean that you are a troll.  Sometimes you just disagree, and many people don’t approve of that.

    • acotrel says:

      06:15pm | 28/02/12

      Trolling is the only you can disparage someone without them actually doing anything wrong,Labor do it to Tony Abbott,while its childish what else would you expect from Gillard and her idiotic trolls

    • your troll conscience says:

      09:06pm | 28/02/12

      Trolling is not unique to the internet. I reckon most people troll in their daily lives , in that they say the opposite to what they really think for various reasons.  No need to hunt them down - just search for the troll within.

    • yobogod says:

      06:58am | 29/02/12

      oh acrotel, life is not two party preferred, its a wide expanse of idiots and knuckle draggers ... welcome to My World!!! <3

    • Brad Coward says:

      08:07am | 29/02/12

      I’m worrying about acotrel.

      Did he really write the anti-Julia Gillard comment or is someone trolling by using his name ?

    • amy says:

      11:24am | 28/02/12

      mens rights is a whole load of rubbish, women are supiror to men

      Erick is silly

    • cayal says:

      11:56am | 28/02/12

      Supiror?

      Yes, I am the underling of a troll. A Grammar Nazi.

    • andrew says:

      12:13pm | 28/02/12

      Perhaps women are supiror to men.  But men are superior to women.

      Don’t you hate when you make a mistake online, in particular when you have attempted to express how intelligent you are.

      I am sure there is a mistake somewhere in my comment. :/

    • amy says:

      12:28pm | 28/02/12

      @cayal

      grmur for fagz   is raspberry

    • ByStealth says:

      12:52pm | 28/02/12

      2/10… too obvious.

      But then I guess that was the point. smile

      @ Claire

      Bonus points for the Penny Arcade reference. The UT strip was one of the classics.

    • Tubesteak says:

      03:55pm | 28/02/12

      “mens rights is a whole load of rubbish”

      Correct. Men are always right. There is no need for pluralising

    • Ridge says:

      04:05pm | 28/02/12

      Nice troll response to a trolling article.  But on a note relative to your post, we should definitely end women’s suffrage.

    • amy says:

      04:24pm | 28/02/12

      aparently on News.com.au they “interveiwd” a self proclaimed troll

      he was 19, unemployed…and spent hours upon hpurs trolling the itnernet

      and HE was the one who said he had lost faith in humanity…
      ...somtimes you wish you could meet thease people in real life so you can punch them

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      09:27am | 29/02/12

      You are too kind, Amy. I’d have castrated the guy to ensure he does not breed. It is bad enough that he is allowed to steal oxygen as it is. To allow him to pollute the human genepool would be a few steps too far.

    • steve says:

      11:25am | 28/02/12

      Trolling is a art.

    • Tchom says:

      12:07pm | 28/02/12

      *an

    • Trolololololololol says:

      12:08pm | 28/02/12

      +1 Internets for Steve.

      It’s a timeless classic and never ceases to work beautifully.

      Also, Josef Fritzl is the greatest Australian to have ever lived.

    • Trololololol heheheehe says:

      12:17pm | 28/02/12

      Successful troll is successful.

    • MTH says:

      12:25pm | 28/02/12

      Grammar Nazi got trolled.

      This happens alot*


      *yes I know, dumbarse. Just reiterating the point so you know how you got trolled.

    • Kheiron says:

      12:35pm | 28/02/12

      When it’s art, it’s great. I always love a good classic.

      The simple means of triggering an utterly predictable response, showcasing the almost robotic tendencies of society, in often humourous ways. That was trolling back in my day.

      Now, it’s anyone on the internet with a foul mouth and/or borderline retardation that’s being labelled a troll and all these little kids think it’s great fun.  “Look, I’m a part of something…people are paying attention to me”

    • Rowdy says:

      12:46pm | 28/02/12

      They see me trollin’....they hatin’......

    • sunny says:

      04:20pm | 28/02/12

      My crayon is stuck up my nose.

    • Random Guard says:

      05:04pm | 28/02/12

      I used to be a troll… But then

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      11:11am | 29/02/12

      Took an arrow to the knee, eh, Randon Guard?

    • Mahhrat says:

      11:25am | 28/02/12

      INTERNET RULE NUMBER ONE!!

      Don’t feed the trolls.

      We warn you, we warn you, we warn you, you don’t listen.

      Experience = Experience + 1

    • Meph says:

      12:07pm | 28/02/12

      All too true, if you feed them, they hang around like seagulls looking for another chip. I strongly believe though, that some people are just born to be trollbait.

    • Millsy says:

      12:29pm | 28/02/12

      Agreed. Just like in real life…......if they get no attention/bites/reaction they soon disappear

    • skayem says:

      12:32pm | 28/02/12

      There is no rule #1
      only rule #34

    • Mahhrat says:

      12:50pm | 28/02/12

      #34 is a good and very true rule, but discussing here would be…dicey.

    • #34G says:

      01:07pm | 28/02/12

      @Skayem - Gold!

      I recently found out about rule #34G -

      If you google image search it - eventually the will be prons

    • Maude says:

      01:44pm | 28/02/12

      Anyone who invokes rule 34 is clearly a fascist.

    • RyaN says:

      02:06pm | 28/02/12

      I thought rule #34 is the only rule, no exceptions!

    • Hocko says:

      03:20pm | 28/02/12

      Rule number 1 is “Don’t talk about fight club”.
      Rule 14 is “Don’t feed the trolls”.
      Learn your internet rules.

    • Tubesteak says:

      03:53pm | 28/02/12

      If rule 34 is the only rule then doesn’t that mean there are two rules?

      Paradoxical

    • Tubesteak says:

      04:46pm | 28/02/12

      “If rule 34 is the only rule then doesn’t that mean there are two rules?”

      Sorry, that should read “If the rule is that rule 34 is the only rule then doesn’t that mean there are two rules?”

      That makes it paradoxical

    • braunman says:

      01:06pm | 29/02/12

      Do you know who else invoked rule #34?

      Hitler

    • skayem says:

      05:19pm | 29/02/12

      @Hocko
      The first rule of FIGHT CLUB is “don’t talk about fight club”. Read the comment properly.  =]

      @Maude
      And I’d do it again wink

    • Nick says:

      11:26am | 28/02/12

      could all of you technologically oblivious adults please stop writing articles about ‘trolling’. You don’t understand the concept at all. The top story on news.com.au right now is about ‘trollers’, and at first glance looks to be a legit article, but anyone who’s spent half a second on 4chan can tell that the three anonymous trolls are just trolling their interviewer. That’s what I’d do, and what I did when tory interviewed me.

      Please, give up. You’re only making yourselves look like idiots

    • Jon says:

      12:17pm | 28/02/12

      Wow Nick, you’ve got us all..  We must bow to your Troll authority.  I will do as you say and go back to my happy, non-pathetic life and leave you with your…..your…...your…...???  Exactly what do you consider your life? I mean, is “waste of oxygen” too generous??  Oh and by the way, I could out-technology your douchey little arse any day!!

    • Tehkella says:

      12:57pm | 28/02/12

      Truth

    • Bug spray says:

      01:00pm | 28/02/12

      Wow. A hipster troll.

      Mummy and daddy must be proud Nicky.

    • Simon Vanderschase says:

      01:02pm | 28/02/12

      Look, I couldn’t disagree with you more.

      Listen, trolling is a form of basic communication- a science if you will - and like any language, or form of communication, it can be broken down to it’s core functions, understood and interpreted.

      Think about it, when a troll goes out into the world -via their keyboard- they are exercising the ultimate in freedom of expression. We need to stop denigrating these individuals and embrace them for what they are, and what they do. In order to embrace them, we first need pioneers (like this journalist) to explore and map their closed-off communities so that the general public (myself included) can then begin to understand what they are about.

      9/11 was an inside job. Educate yourself on NWO policies.

      Ron Paul for President.

      The N word.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      01:22pm | 28/02/12

      Naggers?

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      02:12pm | 28/02/12

      I agree that we should go out, find and embrace the trolls. After that, we should introduce the blackguards to Mr Guillotine.

    • DM says:

      02:52pm | 28/02/12

      See also “M1 300 club” for more on how to troll the journo

    • me says:

      05:53pm | 28/02/12

      @Nick - How precious that you mention 4chan. Mainstream, played out 4chan. At least it serves one purpose: as a sewer to collect all the wannabes and man-babies so the real men can do our work without being bothered.

      Seriously, though - you made my day with the 4chan comment. HOW SUBVERSIVE, hahahaha…

    • Ugh says:

      09:36am | 29/02/12

      I would also like to be cool like you. Please, teach me.

    • DaisyDuke says:

      11:33am | 28/02/12

      Trolling is a artform.

    • Cyn says:

      12:56pm | 28/02/12

      I’m confused, could you please explain how it is an art form?

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      01:24pm | 28/02/12

      I think you just answered your own enquiry Cyn.

    • Trill says:

      02:03pm | 28/02/12

      Just
      Like
      Haikus
      Yo

    • Tracker says:

      11:34am | 28/02/12

      Twitter is full of idiots.

    • M says:

      12:05pm | 28/02/12

      The internet is full of idiots.

    • Andrew says:

      12:15pm | 28/02/12

      Earth is full of idiots.

      For example, people that think they can use mobile phones and walk on a footpath at the same time.

    • Martin says:

      02:05pm | 28/02/12

      Humans are idiots. There are thousands of different species on this planet with a fraction of the brain-power of humans who do not troll or fuck each other over for sport. We are nothing more than educated chimpanzees with some toilet training skills.

    • MikeS says:

      02:18pm | 28/02/12

      You have toilet training?

    • Steve says:

      03:52pm | 28/02/12

      As is Facebook. Anyone over the age of about 20 who spends any time on either of these sites is an idiot.

    • andrew says:

      04:13pm | 28/02/12

      Steve, i call you a troll.

    • Steve says:

      08:41pm | 28/02/12

      Not a troll - I really believe what I said. And I think the evidence supports me. Anyone who is so insecure and / or vain that they need to tell the world about every little inanity in their lives is, in my opinion, an idiot.

    • Lauren says:

      11:38am | 28/02/12

      That kids avatar pic is exactly what I imagine people who troll the internet look like.

    • Loddlaen says:

      11:41am | 28/02/12

      Trolling for the most part, is a dead art form. However, the reply you received above is not an example of trolling, it is an example of someone being a dickhead. Most likely he doesn’t care how he acts, not because it’s hard to identify him, but the chances of you being able to do anything tangible in retaliation is minimal.

    • Stephan says:

      11:49am | 28/02/12

      Interesting

      I just posted a comment on a similar article elsewhere.

      In short I believe trolls are the result of officialdom disempowering the individual.  Some of us are screaming in rage in the only way we know how.

      The recent assassination of Osama bin Laden made me feel just a little wistful.  There’s quite a few politicians/heads of organisations, etc, etc, etc around the world who could benefit from the same treatment.  Does bin Laden set an acceptable precedent?

    • MissMena says:

      12:00pm | 28/02/12

      Now that’s a troll. GG

    • Gav says:

      12:10pm | 28/02/12

      good troll, mate

    • rudy says:

      03:13pm | 28/02/12

      There’s another way you can scream in rage. Stick your head out the window and yell at the top of your voice: ‘I’ve had enough and I’m not gonna take it anymore!’. Then sit back down inside and return to your meek impotent self. Note: don’t do this when neighbours are trying to sleep, or you may find out their rage is mightier than yours.

    • rudy says:

      03:13pm | 28/02/12

      There’s another way you can scream in rage. Stick your head out the window and yell at the top of your voice: ‘I’ve had enough and I’m not gonna take it anymore!’. Then sit back down inside and return to your meek impotent self. Note: don’t do this when neighbours are trying to sleep, or you may find out their rage is mightier than yours.

    • Woderwick Wodgers says:

      03:16pm | 28/02/12

      Bin Laden is not dead

    • henny says:

      11:56am | 28/02/12

      The definition of a troll is very subjective.
      Some trolls have pet projects.
      For some it is women bashing and turning everything possible and even some that aren’t into a stream of poor widdle men.
      For others it is blind partisanship that makes them look like the village idiot.

      No doubt they feel strongly about issues and have probably been adversely affected at some time, by a woman, family court or a union interaction.

      These people lack any sense of balance and are best avoided,

    • d says:

      01:04pm | 28/02/12

      no thats people who have issues, you posting that here makes you a troll….

      A thread hijacking is not trolling.

    • henny says:

      02:02pm | 28/02/12

      Thanks for stopping by d
      Always enjoy the company.

    • Seth Brundle says:

      02:49pm | 28/02/12

      pwned, henny.  pwned.

    • Tim says:

      11:57am | 28/02/12

      People who use twitter and facebook for stuff like this deserve everything they get.

    • Edgarr78 says:

      04:51pm | 28/02/12

      people who use the comments section of inane news articles to criticise technologies they are too old to understand, and therefore fear, deserve much worse. If Tim had been alive during the 1880’s (and I suspect he might have been) he would have been the first to complain about that new fangled communications tool known as the “Phone”.

    • lauren says:

      09:38am | 29/02/12

      “If Tim had been alive during the 1880’s (and I suspect he might have been)”

      BWAHAHAHAHAHA…oh lord did I laugh at that comment. Well done.

    • cayal says:

      11:58am | 28/02/12

      Trolling is simply anonymous people saying what they want because they are behind their keyboards.

      It’s a way of venting or just being a dick.

      People ‘studying’ this behavior are wasting time (as usual)

    • jamie says:

      11:59am | 28/02/12

      trolls are a diamond dozen

    • MTH says:

      12:27pm | 28/02/12

      +1 internetz for you.

    • Stephan says:

      12:30pm | 28/02/12

      Uh

      That’s “a dime a dozen” smile

      A dime is 5 cents U S - and ,yes, even a comment like yours can be considered a “troll”.

    • Jaymes says:

      12:39pm | 28/02/12

      true but its a doggy dog world so what can u do?

    • Duffman says:

      12:41pm | 28/02/12

      Dime a dozen you illiterate goon.

    • Duffman says:

      12:41pm | 28/02/12

      Dime a dozen you illiterate goon.

    • AC says:

      12:54pm | 28/02/12

      Well played sir.

    • Mahhrat says:

      01:11pm | 28/02/12

      Score:  Jamie 2

    • Terrence Roller says:

      01:12pm | 28/02/12

      jamie scores +1 +1

      lolz, chucklez,shitz & gigz

    • Meph says:

      01:16pm | 28/02/12

      @Stephan and Duffman

      And here I thought the obvious troll was being obvious. As I said earlier, some are just born to be trollbait.

      All due respect for the biters Jamie, but could you please at least try to be clever with your next troll, pretty pretty please?

    • marley says:

      01:25pm | 28/02/12

      Stephen -  A nickel is five US cents.  A dime is ten cents. Trolls are pretty much a penny a pound.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      01:29pm | 28/02/12

      Sometimes you have to wonder if the people feeding the troll aren’t trolling themselves, but then I remember that a lot of people are idiots and will fall for anything. Doggy dog world indeed.

    • JWG says:

      01:40pm | 28/02/12

      “dime a dozen”

       


      Troll fodder

    • Chris says:

      12:03pm | 28/02/12

      TROLL TROLL TROLL!!

      But in all seriousness, I honestly get the feeling sometimes that it doesn’t matter what you do, you will still get abuse.
      If you cured cancer, saved the global economy, and baked every individual person in the world a cake, you would still get trolled/abused for something

    • Kheiron says:

      12:41pm | 28/02/12

      7 billion people in the world, all different, with wide ranging views and opinions based on everything from fact and experience to wild, ranting lunacy and you expect to find any one single thing they’d all applaud?

      Good luck.

    • Chris says:

      01:57pm | 28/02/12

      Chris (a different one)

      Some people don’t like cake, my friend.

      Cheerio,
      C

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      02:17pm | 28/02/12

      Darwin’s Theory of Evolution would indicate that the wild, ranting lunatics end up dead before they could procreate. Instead, we coddle them and allow them to proliferate, polluting the human genepool and ensuring the demise of humanity through sheer insanity. We are already seeing the results of that creeping lunacy: global warming fanatics.

    • Jase says:

      12:06pm | 28/02/12

      Why not just call ‘trolls’ for what they are, mindless scared, cowardly sociopathic morons who are destined to be no hopers for life

    • cayal says:

      12:53pm | 28/02/12

      Because that is incorrect?

    • Dan Webster says:

      12:09pm | 28/02/12

      “But perhaps what I’ve learned from all this is that without purpose or reason a troll’s mission is to try to make people angry, to incite reactions, to cause bemusement and confusion.”

      Sounds like what News Ltd does.

      (trolololol)

    • Trollin ' Bob says:

      12:27pm | 28/02/12

      You sir, have hit the nail on the head!

      And I salute you

    • Tony says:

      12:09pm | 28/02/12

      LOL, you’ve just made Christopher Williams aka @neon_shadows my mayhem target du jour.  Thanks for the heads up.

    • MTH says:

      12:54pm | 28/02/12

      This!

    • Steve says:

      12:11pm | 28/02/12

      My cat’s breathe smells like cat food.

      ~ralph

    • Trolley Boy says:

      04:38pm | 28/02/12

      So does mine.

    • Not-Erick says:

      12:16pm | 28/02/12

      Why’d you need to look as far as Twitter and Facebook when you can view the first comment on almost every article on The Punch.

      Hell, you guys even gave him the opportunity to write an article, for God’s sake.

    • B says:

      01:28pm | 28/02/12

      So true… It seems Erick has a great deal of time on his hands… so he stalks the articles on the Punch. He never fails to come through with a rant of some sort.

    • Lee Mazengarb says:

      12:16pm | 28/02/12

      roal, gets what they deserve. majority of us have had a gutful of media, politicians n political correctness to last 10 lifetimes. So we are over it n will have our say n vote accordingly. Down with carbon tax, down with labor, good riddance greens n indies…hehhe..there i trolled. ...bring back Pauline…:)..what climate change. so many things to troll.

    • Bullet for my Valentine says:

      12:18pm | 28/02/12

      The trolls of today are the serial killers of tomorrow. True story.

    • Stephan says:

      12:31pm | 28/02/12

      We’ll have to invent a new phrase.

      How does “going postal” convert to the new paradigm then?

    • Josh says:

      12:35pm | 28/02/12

      My chemical romance are the most awesome hardcore metal band around.

    • Yoduh says:

      12:41pm | 28/02/12

      the reason why trolls are the serial killers of tomorrow is because people like you dont kill themselves “hmm restore balence they must.” lots of love - pen0r for my valentine

    • Yoduh says:

      12:41pm | 28/02/12

      the reason why trolls are the serial killers of tomorrow is because people like you dont kill themselves “hmm restore balence they must.” lots of love - pen0r for my valentine

    • Yoduh says:

      12:41pm | 28/02/12

      the reason why trolls are the serial killers of tomorrow is because people like you dont kill themselves “hmm restore balence they must.” lots of love - pen0r for my valentine

    • Nigel says:

      12:58pm | 28/02/12

      @Josh, Hardcore Metal? you have got to be kidding. Play it next to Warrant, Poison & Slaughter and there’s nothing “core” about them. I think Jessica Manboy has more “core”.

    • Dave says:

      02:32pm | 28/02/12

      @ Nigel, Don’t feed the trolls.

    • Doug says:

      12:20pm | 28/02/12

      The comic is actually done by Mike Krahulik & Jerry Holkins and is taken from their site penny-arcade.com

    • Osiris Fox says:

      12:22pm | 28/02/12

      To apply the term “Trolling” is an attempt to avoid responsibility for ones online statements and actions even though those actions do actually reflect the trolls opinion and state of mind. They will say otherwise when they our outed in public though, not too dissimilar to telling someone in the street “to go eff themselves”, and then saying “just kidding I’m not serious” when they want to retaliate. Anonymity is like alcohol for these people as it removes the moral inhibitions.

      The bottom line is that it’s verbal and mental abuse and a form of debilitating harassment. If racism is a crime (and you can get charged for verbal racism), then this should be too. The problem is, how to define the law so that it isn’t abused.

    • Chris Deal says:

      12:23pm | 28/02/12

      Hands down, this is the worst article I have ever read on The Punch.

    • Bede says:

      01:52pm | 28/02/12

      This is news.com.au not the Punch??

    • Fred says:

      12:24pm | 28/02/12

      The biggest trolls are federal Liberal party supporters these days. Which makes almost the entire media one gargantuan troll.

    • The real Fred says:

      03:07pm | 28/02/12

      A troll is someone who has specific views and will argue them even if they are stupid and/or wrong.  Sounds like anyone who is partisan and ESPECIALLY LABOR SUPPORTERS!  rawwr!

    • s says:

      12:24pm | 28/02/12

      Blame Gillard!

    • Fred says:

      12:25pm | 28/02/12

      People just suck these days. I get the same impression whenever I vist a shopping centre, a seething rage just under the surface of nearly everyone.

    • Stephan says:

      12:49pm | 28/02/12

      My point - though perhaps not as extremely said.

    • Wanderer says:

      12:34pm | 28/02/12

      Claire if you look for trolls then feed the trolls don’t complain you get trolled. Giving trolls attention like this is just feeding them. So to put it simply, Don’t feed the trolls.

    • dfgdfgd says:

      12:35pm | 28/02/12

      damn those pesky redditors

    • MM says:

      12:37pm | 28/02/12

      You called for trolls and got trolled… so what? You do realise that by posting that guys picture/tweet he is going to cop it don’t you? Feeding the trolls is enabling.

    • Trolly Lovetroll says:

      12:37pm | 28/02/12

      Trolls just need a hug. When you give them an e-hug, they get all warm and fuzzy, and their hair stands on end, like those little good luck trolls in the pic. Then they post a happy comment and everyone starts feeling like eating a rainbow cake and are feeling a happy!
      Then everyone wins the internet.

    • Steve Jackson says:

      12:38pm | 28/02/12

      In all seriousness, I think if researched properly my gut feel is they would identify a link between these “trolls” and those who are identified to be rebellious and uneducated people who refused to go to school, people who are destined to be welfare sponges all their life and achieve nothing and contribute nothing to the world. Unfortunately these days they even in gaol they get access to the Internet so when they land in there, they have plenty of time not just for a bit of role-playing, but also unleashing their limited vocabulary to everyone’s discomfort.

    • Stephan says:

      12:51pm | 28/02/12

      Oh that’s a good one - but naaah you’re way off the mark Steve.

      A number of the best trolls are very well educated smile

    • Ian Livingston says:

      12:57pm | 28/02/12

      Amazing - You must have powers of Sorcery!  But don’t do the research, it’s a deathtrap.

    • salmon hater says:

      01:11pm | 28/02/12

      @Stephan, it’s “Number of the beast” you inbrazil,
      And spell your name right for goodless snakes.

    • Richard says:

      01:18pm | 28/02/12

      LOL!!! I’ll save you the trouble of our next few replies.

      Steve: <trollers are uneducated>
      Troll: <call you homosexual>
      Steve: <saying the point has been proved by troll response>
      Troll: <insult>
      Steve: <retort>
      Troll: <suggestion to shut your trap>
      Steve: <theory that troll is holding back the human race as a species>
      Troll: <statement that Steve is a planktonian member of the Quebec Liberation Front>
      Steve: <words of praise for using so many syllables>
      Troll: <shows gratitude for praise but still insults right middle toe>
      Steve: <gives up and says I won’t reply>
      Troll: <yes you will>
      Steve: <threatens once again that no reply shall be forthcoming>
      Troll: <claims victory and calls him a member of the Klingon Academy of Uranus>

    • Terrence Roller says:

      01:19pm | 28/02/12

      In this City of Thieves who will roll 2d6?

    • FF2K says:

      12:38pm | 28/02/12

      The cartoon’s from Penny Arcade and “John Gabriel” is an alias for cartoonist Mike Krahulik. Just pointing it out.

    • wakeupcall says:

      12:41pm | 28/02/12

      A troll is somebody whose views you disagree with who is trying to share the media access you dominate. You have a button letting you decide when or when not to publish. Grow up. If you disagree, engage and defeat the argument. If the post is out of bounds then censor. Full stop. Move on.

    • Stephan says:

      12:54pm | 28/02/12

      Yaaay - social consciousness exists

    • Brad says:

      03:48pm | 28/02/12

      There are a lot of people whose definition of “Troll” seems to be somewhat skewed. Unless they themselves are trolling and I’m falling for it. Wakeupcall, try looking up troll on wiki.

    • Action Cheese says:

      12:42pm | 28/02/12

      I used to be a troll like you, then I took an arrow to the knee

    • fredo says:

      12:41pm | 29/02/12

      so much Skyrim Reference on Punch at the moment.

    • Andrew says:

      12:42pm | 28/02/12

      Some trolls are comedians. “Kevin of Double Bay” on news.com.au is always a good laugh.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:18pm | 28/02/12

      Especially when it comes to flying on business class on a plane and hating kids, hes gold!..lol

    • Ra says:

      03:11pm | 28/02/12

      Haven’t seen Kev in a while tho hmmm

    • andye says:

      05:57pm | 28/02/12

      @andrew - agreed. there is an obvious parody element to it, though. if you fall for that, you deserve what you get. he is in the Colbert school.

    • Davy says:

      12:45pm | 28/02/12

      Me thinks most trolling tis just techno graffiti….

    • Richard says:

      01:22pm | 28/02/12

      Its not techno graffiti. Its a techno art form.

    • hatersgonnahate says:

      12:56pm | 28/02/12

      Maybe you should stop the apple bashing Claire.

    • Bea Riel says:

      01:00pm | 28/02/12

      Where’s that big Billy Goat Gruff when you need him?

    • Terrence Roller says:

      01:02pm | 28/02/12

      And once again the poor cannibal troll is left out altogether .... what IS the world coming to!?

    • jimbo says:

      01:03pm | 28/02/12

      It’s simple.. Some people pour salt on a snail to watch it suffer. Some people think that is cruel and decide otherwise.

    • subotic P.H.T. (Professional Human Troll) says:

      01:05pm | 28/02/12

      I like to think of myself as a professional troll as opposed to some smart-ass just spouting crap for the sake of crap. For the most part. Ok, ok, I just spew forth shyte.

      But…. I am particularly taken by the fact I annoy the bejeezus out of certain Punchers purely by the fact I exist. And that I have “followers” (for the want of a better term) who actually look thru posts for the stuff I spew forth.

      subotic - professional troll, purveyor of small flightless birds, used car sales…

    • marley says:

      01:28pm | 28/02/12

      Professional troll, huh?  Don’t give up your day job.

    • subotic says:

      02:16pm | 28/02/12

      As if I would be gainfully employed… PFFFFT!!!

    • Leeroy Jenkins says:

      01:09pm | 28/02/12

      The only person trolling here is you Claire with your joke of an article. How did you feel about turning in this trash? Were you happy with it? Where’s the research or analysis? I would expect a better article from a high school student and I’m being 100% sincere here. Do yourself a favour; buy a large block of Cadbury chocolate, put on some Adele, sit in the bathtub, stare at the tiles and think deeply about how pathetic this article was.

    • amy says:

      01:28pm | 28/02/12

      isnt there a battle you should be getting too?

    • Curiousus says:

      02:36pm | 28/02/12

      At least he has chicken!

    • Anonymous says:

      01:09pm | 28/02/12

      Why must you demonize Anonymity? It’s done so much good for the world!

    • Anonymous Too says:

      01:42pm | 28/02/12

      +1 for anonymous rights

    • Not anonymous says:

      03:27pm | 28/02/12

      You guys need help.
      There is a support group - Anonymous Anonymous.

    • Anonymous says:

      11:00am | 29/02/12

      Unfunny. Better luck next time.

    • not a troll says:

      01:15pm | 28/02/12

      not exactly trolling, but the site on your bio has been discontinued, perhaps you should fix that one instead of giving tollers attitude, they will look for things like this.

    • Biggles says:

      01:17pm | 28/02/12

      The tone of the article is that trolls are unsophisticated morons and not as clever as the writer. That’s but OK, it helps maintain ego.  However, In this case the ‘trolls’ were merely letting the writer know what a bad idea it was, criticism is not trolling perhaps a thicker skin is needed.

    • marley says:

      01:27pm | 28/02/12

      Or perhaps the people responding were unsophisticated morons who couldn’t express themselves any other way.

    • Biggles says:

      01:58pm | 28/02/12

      That’s fine but they were not trolls.  You can’t cry troll just because someone has had a go at you, or is troll now used for general bad behaviour.

    • Blink says:

      01:22pm | 28/02/12

      Hi Claire…regarding the comic you posted it’s actually done by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins of Penny Arcade.  You might want to reference them properly and provide a link to their original work.  Not sure where you got “John Gabriel” from…Gabriel is actually one of their character names.

    • Sam Chowder says:

      01:24pm | 28/02/12

      I blame the billy goats gruff

    • Christine says:

      01:29pm | 28/02/12

      Trolling is another way that people demonstrate their sinful nature. These unrepentant sinners may believe that online anonymity will keep them safe from punishment but they seem to forget that they will have to answer to God one day.

    • marley says:

      02:10pm | 28/02/12

      Ahh, God - but what if God is in fact the Supreme Troll?

    • Simon Vanderschase says:

      02:11pm | 28/02/12

      Not another bible thumper on the internet. Here’s a tip:
      internet propaganda is never taken seriously.
      Get your head around the fact that nobody cares about
      going to hell, except weirdos and oldies having
      epiphanic moments. You might think that you are ‘saving’
      random people on the internet, but everyone just scrolls
      straight past your bullshit.

    • Al says:

      03:12pm | 28/02/12

      Yes, the judgement of Minerva or Thor or Yahweh or Geehova or Saturn etc is so annoying and relevant isn’t it.
      Nice troll though.

    • dooyoufinkheesaurus says:

      04:17pm | 28/02/12

      And on the seventh day God created Richard Dawkins.

    • George Costanza says:

      01:33pm | 28/02/12

      Tits or GTFO

    • master says:

      03:39pm | 28/02/12

      Shouldn’t you be in BBV4L?

    • Bill says:

      04:24pm | 28/02/12

      What’s BBV4L?

    • Nathan Explosion says:

      01:38pm | 28/02/12

      I put on my robe and wizard hat.

    • Al says:

      03:05pm | 28/02/12

      Nah, I rather my +2 Longbow and Flaming Arrows.

    • Meph says:

      03:10pm | 28/02/12

      I’m not totally sure that many here would have read bash.org, but you sir, get a +1 internets!

    • You Cant See Me says:

      01:41pm | 28/02/12

      Always amused at the punch posting articles on trolling considering that this blog is largely moderated by right wing trolls.

    • ij says:

      01:41pm | 28/02/12

      I have been on the “net” for 20 or so years, and there have always been trolls.

      You must be new to all of this if you think this is a new phenomena, or think it will do any damage.

    • Shelly says:

      01:41pm | 28/02/12

      Why is the internet taken so seriously? Anything online should’t be taken with a grain of salt until verified against the real world. The internet was like this long before sites like Facebook achieved poularity and masses of normals flooded in and destroyed the ecosystem.

    • rudy says:

      03:15pm | 28/02/12

      Shelly and ij are using the ‘claim to greater knowledge and experience’ fallacious argument.

    • dano says:

      01:44pm | 28/02/12

      Trolling is for smart people who are bored with dumb conversation.

    • Troll = Waaaaaa Look At Me says:

      02:20pm | 28/02/12

      Or have no life… you know, either or.

    • master says:

      03:41pm | 28/02/12

      Perfect for this article then.

    • Jon says:

      01:46pm | 28/02/12

      Do Work.

    • Justin says:

      01:49pm | 28/02/12

      Point of note.. If you’re going to quote from an image to gain +1 laughter, you may want to get it accurate…

    • Kika says:

      01:50pm | 28/02/12

      I love the pic! Those trolls with the jewels in their bellies were really special. Gosh that’s taking me back.

      They are so much cuter than the trolls as depicted back in Scandinavia…

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      02:22pm | 28/02/12

      They are also much cuter than your average internet troll, Kika. Pimply little obese prats living in the basement of their parents’ house and surrounded by candy wrappers is not cute by any stretch of the imagination.

    • Bill says:

      01:51pm | 28/02/12

      Vestra peperit non sensum cum dissipabit scientia vel defectum ibi de

    • radical53 says:

      01:52pm | 28/02/12

      This is so funny. Saying that You have had more suggestions to screw yourself than in an edition of Cosmo magazine.

      Whether that is flattering or not, is up to the reader. But I find it funny. Suppose laughing at yourself is a dose of good medicine.

      Trolls should be more constructive, not destructive.

    • wut? says:

      01:52pm | 28/02/12

      It’s fundamentally flawed to equate an insult with a troll. An insult is to a rifle what a troll is to a bear trap.

    • blah says:

      01:52pm | 28/02/12

      Some people just want to see the world burn.

    • wut? says:

      01:53pm | 28/02/12

      It’s fundamentally flawed to equate an insult with a troll. An insult is to a rifle what a troll is to a bear trap.

    • Phil T says:

      01:54pm | 28/02/12

      Jeremy Clarkson put it best, this isn’t not a direct quote, but from recent memory:

      “If you can’t drive a manual, you shouldn’t be driving cars”.

      Same applies on the Internet, if you can’t handle a little heated discussion and differing opinions, maybe you shouldn’t be on the Internet in the first place. Sure, there will always be a safe place for the casual browsers to cruise along (Facebook, Google), but if you want to drive in the fast lane, you better make sure you can hit over 100.

    • Your name: Jaywad says:

      03:13pm | 05/03/12

      Oh my god, what a manly he-man. Watch out, ladies.

    • I.P. Standing says:

      02:04pm | 28/02/12

      I blame Abbott and his relentless negativity.

    • Kim Jong-Trolololo says:

      02:04pm | 28/02/12

      Problem, Miss Connelly?

    • Al says:

      02:07pm | 28/02/12

      Trolling can be so much fun!
      Put a comment that is outrageous and watch the vitriol fly.
      I think trolling can be better described as ‘baiting’.
      As in “what idiots can I catch using this bit of bait?”

    • Bill H says:

      05:08pm | 28/02/12

      I call it fishing, put a line out and see what jumps on it

    • Centrelink,,were watching says:

      02:11pm | 28/02/12

      To the trolls out there…..get a haircut and get a job

    • George Costanza says:

      02:48pm | 28/02/12

      Sure. Right after you master basic, primary school grammar.

    • Admiral Ackroyd says:

      02:14pm | 28/02/12

      IT’S A TRAP!!!

    • Descustard says:

      03:24pm | 28/02/12

      but with felt cushions on the teeth…..

    • Bill door says:

      02:46pm | 28/02/12

      I noticed that Tim Blair recent decided that all Left wing comments posted on his blog were from trolls. He branded all such comments with a troll tag and posted 8 hrs after being submitted.

      The use of the word troll is in the political word at least being used to limit free speech to just those you agree with.

    • Simon Vanderschase says:

      03:19pm | 28/02/12

      Bill, that’s spot on.
      Unless we face the fact that this term is
      literally just a cheap shot at opinions that differ from the author’s,
      lots of people will be unfairly silenced.
      Seriously, whenever someone posts something ‘slightly controversial’,
      haters crawl out of the woodwork screaming ‘troll’.
      It’s getting to the point where the loudest voice is right and anybody
      that disagrees with them is just being deliberately falacious.

    • ploppers says:

      02:50pm | 28/02/12

      ploppers?

    • pisstaker says:

      02:52pm | 28/02/12

      I thought trolls turned into bloggers?

    • Kate says:

      02:55pm | 28/02/12

      Hard to go past the Ask Bossy blog on news.com.au for good trolls.
      Sad Sad Reality, ironmike and TOMATOR make my day.

    • Rick of the Dustbowl says:

      03:05pm | 28/02/12

      Trolling? it used to be called taking the piss and it’s an age old pass time of the Aussie. Those bloggers that bite are all the more reason to keep it up because it’s good for a laugh and god knows we need to laugh so keep on taking the piss I say.

    • Descustard says:

      03:22pm | 28/02/12

      Well if you want to take piss,( I have seen a documentary on that on SBS), you go right ahead, but I for one am not going to be participating in such debauchery.

    • Martin says:

      03:09pm | 28/02/12

      A horse will go to water, but a pencil must be lead.

      Just sayin’.

    • Waldemar Schwefel says:

      03:11pm | 28/02/12

      You give too much on the word. The bible said deeds are more important than words, and they are right. Surely, these people are mentally instabil. But rather think about yourself if some bird-brain tosses a comment, and you know it is just for a provocation, and you go on it and let this morons manipulate your mood. Its like talking about politics or sports, after a while everyone get upset and someone gets hurt and for what? Nothing than warm air and vapour.
      Yes, there are trolls, idiots and psychos who pisses themselves off by seeing you getting upset, thats miserly on both sides. Reflect yourself and make this nitwits vanishing into nowhere.

    • Sergi says:

      03:25pm | 28/02/12

      You all should understand that these people have
      Lost the plot and any sense of reality.
      The problem is that they think that life is a
      Game. Very good article
      Claire…

      Read the first word of each line above.

    • old wino says:

      03:26pm | 28/02/12

      Actually Clair, I kinda like your smile and think you look sorta sexy…

    • wizard says:

      03:28pm | 28/02/12

      Trolling… I would call FREEDOM of expression.
      Considering this organisation doesnt publish comments it deems “subversive” most people rather spend their time researching, investigating and questioning real matters such as AWG ( Global Warming), Agenda 21 and Codex Allimentarius. Then we get labelled ” Conspiracy Theorists” by those is the shame-stream media who classify themselves as journalists (whore-nalists) and the press (press-itutes).

    • Susan says:

      03:35pm | 28/02/12

      If you just went online and asked “where are the trolls?” or “put me onto a troll”..no wonder you got abusive responses. It’s ultimate irony that those types of questions could be taken by some as trolling behaviour.

    • Naro says:

      03:45pm | 28/02/12

      I honestly don’t consider this Trolling. There is no art to it. The term has completely devolved from when it was derived on the internet. This is griefing, probably by someone depraved person looking for a reaction and you’re giving them one.

      There is a fine line between what you’re showcasing and what trolling is all about and that is abrasion. Trolling to me has always been a non-abrasive delivery for a volatile reaction. Like walking down the road with socks and sandals.

    • THEFEEJ says:

      03:51pm | 28/02/12

      Claire you are an hero

    • H.E Pennypacker says:

      04:23pm | 28/02/12

      Lulz, clearly the mods here have no idea. Someone should rule 34 her and spam it everywhere.

    • Owen Brown says:

      03:55pm | 28/02/12

      There is nothing wrong with a flame war. Flaming was an amusing social exercise for one online community I was part of pre-social networking. We were all united by a love for a band, but between shows and news about the band we’d discuss politics and such, and it got pretty rowdy and fired up. At the shows, though, we were all friends. It didn’t matter. I think there were trolls though, you could tell when they didn’t bother syaing hello in person despite being quite vocal online.

    • Art Vandalay of Vandalay Industries says:

      03:59pm | 28/02/12

      Insert *troll_face.jpg*

    • Ben says:

      04:02pm | 28/02/12

      are we still upset about trolls? say you were walking down the street chatting with a friend and some random guy who was shouting expletives at everyone he passed also did the same to you. would you be offended and upset, or just continue your conversation as you were, disregarding the passer-by’s comments as nothing? it really is ridiculous to react at all to any troll.

    • Who's to Blame? says:

      04:19pm | 28/02/12

      Somehow or another I’m sure this is all Tony Abbott’s fault.

    • Steve says:

      04:31pm | 28/02/12

      Try playing online games and you’ll see a whole new side of trolling. Especially the type of games where people play against each other (pvp or player vs player) as opposed to those where people play cooperatively. The usual troll plus the aggression spurred on by competition.

    • Andy of Sydney says:

      09:22am | 29/02/12

      One of the reasons I don’t bother with online games. Too full of little children trying to act big through a bunch of pixels. I’d say the obvious about those little kids, but why bother? Most people know what they are like anyway, and the only ones who don’t are those who are world famous in their own little minds.

    • Craig says:

      04:45pm | 28/02/12

      Are females trolls Trollops?
      A Rusian Troll a Trolstoy?
      And an English Troll a football fan?

      Of course the mortal enemy of a Troll is a Goat.

    • M says:

      05:07pm | 28/02/12

      Lol @ the Punch trolling it’s comments section with an article on trolls.

    • SelectiveTrollism says:

      06:28pm | 28/02/12

      I enjoy contributions from Trolls if articulate and well written.  Often their posts are equally laced with humour, wit, false statistics, egotism and sarcasm.  It makes for interesting reading and a good laugh. 
      If the Troll is poorly educated however and their diatribe is poorly composed and littered with spelling mistakes- it’s just annoying.
      I elect selective Trollism, if you are smart and or funny ‘go to it’, if you are overly sensitive, bigoted, sexist without comic relief,  uneducated without a sense of humour - please refrain.

    • Lammit says:

      08:29pm | 28/02/12

      ^ This
      Ps.
      I own a horse

    • Sorry Pal says:

      10:39pm | 28/02/12

      Funnily enough although premise might sound true upon closer inspection it seems it is fatally flawed. Hecklers of comedians don’t rely on anonymity - anonymity is not a prerequisite.

      you shouldn’t use Mick’s metal forks.

    • yobogod says:

      07:07am | 29/02/12

      Hating Hate does not mean you Love Love ... juuust puttin’ this out there

    • @neon_shadows says:

      11:45am | 29/02/12

      mad

    • Wayne Reynolds says:

      09:39pm | 02/03/12

      Marry me lovely Claire Connelly.

    • what says:

      12:29pm | 13/03/12

      -1 internets this whole page…

 

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