“Declaro me ministerio Episcopi Romae, Successoris Sancti Petri…renuntiare”. Uttering these words in reedy, German-flavoured Latin, Benedict XVI became the first Pope in almost six hundred years to abdicate.

Reason number 4: orange skullcaps just weren't his thing. Pic: AFP

The last man to do so was Gregory XII in 1415, not entirely of his own choosing, when no fewer than three pontiffs all claimed to be the heir of St. Peter. Abdication - voluntary and otherwise - is nothing new for the papacy; we have examples going back almost 1700 years.

But Benedict’s decision is certainly novel in modern times. Predictably, the blogosphere and twittersphere have exploded in conspiracy theories (including the always present, but as of yet unrealised, end of the world), but their concerns and those of more staid commentators boil down to two questions: why did Benedict abdicate and what will happen now?

As to why, I would suggest three reasons.

First, as Benedict himself says, he is 85, and serving as the head of the Church and over 1.1 billion Catholics is becoming increasingly difficult. He probably wishes to avoid the experience of John-Paul II’s final years, where infirmities left the Pope physically and mentally inert. This is part vanity, but also part practical.  His ability to do the job has been compromised by age.

Second, both Benedict’s life and career have been decidedly mixed. His years before the priesthood are uncomfortably intermingled with the legacy of Nazi Germany. As a cardinal, he was one of John-Paul II’s strongest supporters in the movement towards a more socially and institutionally conservative Church.

While head of the Congregation for theDoctrine of Faith (until the twentieth century, the Roman Inquisition), he clamped down hard on liberation theology and calls for the ordination of women. And as Pope, he has been AWOL on the paedophilia scandals rocking Australia, North America and Europe—leaving it to rudderless archbishops to sort the matter out (witness the excruciating verbal contortions of Cardinal Pell). His past life and present controversies have not gone away.

Finally, there are a number of issues facing the Church that transcend Benedict’s pontificate, ones he is unable to take on. The move towards conservatism has come at a price: many of the clergy and laity in the developed world are disaffected, Church doctrine on social issues (including birth control, AIDS and homosexuality) has created regional and class rifts, and every year there are fewer and fewer recruits to the clergy.

His comments about the “dictatorship” of cultural relativism have made resolution of these tensions even stickier. And in many ways, Benedict’s election was an avoidance of these issues. Not only does he lack the wherewithal to tackle these problems; he arguably doesn’t have the mandate to do so.

So what next? The College of Cardinals is responsible for electing a new bishop of Rome. There are several strong candidates for the job, including a Canadian and two Africans. There has never been an Asian or New World Pope; the last African reigned in the 490s. Whatever his background, the College cannot continue to elect do-nothing pontiffs. Benedict’s successor will have to be as vigorous and principled as John-Paul II when he was elected in 1981.

It’s unclear which way the white smoke will blow, but I predict that the next Pope will be a staunch, youngish conservative (the wrong choice, in my opinion). Whoever is chosen, he may have to dust off some old papal names. Martin V succeeded the last Pope who retired and was notable for ending the Great Schism in the Church.  Maybe a Martin VI can do the same.

Dr Geoff Nathan is a lecturer in Roman History at the University of New South Wales, specialising in late antique and early medieval social history. He has previously lectured in ancient and medieval history at San Diego State University, Western Oregon University and UCLA. He is author of The Family in Late Antiquity: The Rise of Christianity and the Endurance of Tradition.

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    • acotrel says:

      05:12am | 16/02/13

      Does the catholic church ever require its clergy to have medical examinations, or is that considered to be deference to science ? What is the OHS policy for the organisation ? I wonder if it includes reference to workplace bullying ?

    • Loddlaen says:

      08:38am | 16/02/13

      @jtz - Old hat. That’s been well known for quite some time. But kudos to you for caring enough to be a stalker!

    • Christian Real says:

      08:49am | 16/02/13

      jtz
      Even if acotrel is a member of the ALP, so what !  it does not make him a Labor troll as you suggest in you comment.
      Going by your comment that would also mean that everyone one who comments in these blogs that are members of the Liberal/national party are Liberal trolls.

    • Stained says:

      09:18am | 16/02/13

      @jtz, hmm porky looking thing aint he…just as I thought he would.  Not bright looking either.

    • Chillin says:

      09:46am | 16/02/13

      You are new here aren’t your jtz?

      CR,

      You are right, being a card carrier for the ALP does not make you a troll.  Turning every single piece on the site into a Labor Party issue and having an overt sexual attraction to Tony Abbott’s swimming attire…DOES!

    • JTZ says:

      09:47am | 16/02/13

      @Christian real then maybe he should stop lieing and saying he has no connection to the ALP.

      Considering the fact you both a very close I have a sneaky feeling either you are Acotrel under a different name or that you are also a member of the ALP.

      @Loddaen I looked this up because i remembered someone mentioning it a while back and acotrel still continues with his I am not bias line so I thought it would be good to add it back into the punch

    • andy says:

      10:06am | 16/02/13

      OK jtz and stained show us your pic on the Liberal party website.
      probably fat toads with no teeth and F-off tats.
      weak as

    • Watcher says:

      10:29am | 16/02/13

      @jtz exactly what do your troll posts have to do with this article on the pope?
      i get it now. no gillard or labor bashing to be had today. sorry.

    • willie says:

      11:43am | 16/02/13

      jtz
      Its well known Cottrell is a Labor member. You might want to look up the meaning of troll though as this is evidence that he is not one.

    • Ken Oath says:

      11:49am | 16/02/13

      Christian you’re a fucking idiot!

      What religion do you think formed the backbone of your beloved Labor party and still does? Do you think it was the protestants who believe that the cream rises to the top and success in this world is god given proof of being the chosen ones. Or do you think it was a more humane way of thinking not founded on the desire of one man to treat his wife like shit that gave your beloved party its spirit and soul. And the athiests can sit on the sidelines and believe in nothing but the invincibility of their technology and science. Those pricks would have hung you once if you had dared to say the earth was round.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      01:07pm | 16/02/13

      Yes, you silly anonymous ALP troll, they do require medical Examinations of the Pope-elect.
      When those paedophile protecting prelates elect one of their mates, never mind his nazi-connections, his covering-up of paedos within his diocese, he is made to sit in a special chair. Upholstered in velvets, satins, trimmed with gold, platinum & other precious metals this chair has a hole in the seat. Popey is made to hitch up his, actually someone does it for him, skirts, dresses, laces so that when he sits down all those perverted prelates can have a dekko to see if he has all the necessary knobs & balls required to ensure Popey is, indeed, Male & not some second-class, female. They probably give Popey a little thrill by tickling, licking & sucking on that little knob & balls. If ‘it’ rises up or they jump &  rise up in the scrotum as they do when sexually aroused, then they know the person sitting in the chair is (a) Alive & (b) Male
      It also helps if Popey gets a beatific smile on his face & moans!

    • Cilo says:

      01:39pm | 16/02/13

      I have to feel sorry for acotrel, for all his ravings he has nothing to show for it! Maybe in your next life aco-man!

    • Liberal voter says:

      01:49pm | 16/02/13

      He wants to avoid dying of shame like others have.

    • Reader says:

      02:02pm | 16/02/13

      There are many Liberal ‘trolls’ who if isn’t their job then are a liability to someone despite all their bragging bs that they work hard. It’s hard to see what else they could get done each day outside of lengthy sermons on The Punch.

    • acotrel says:

      02:09pm | 16/02/13

      @jtz
      Good work ! - NOT
      I’m a member of the Labor Connect forum, not a member of the ALP. It should be possible to access the ALP membership lists , try and prove that I’m a liar and deceitful like your leader.

    • Christian Real says:

      04:01pm | 16/02/13

      jtz
      I am a member of the ALP, but I am not acotrel I can assure you, someone even thought I was Badger the other day but I am not Badger either.
      I use only the one name to post comments,not multiple names like some posters use.

    • acotrel says:

      05:16am | 16/02/13

      It is lonely at the top - how would yu keep you head straight with all that power and attendant responsibility when a substantial proportion your workers are abusing kids ?

    • bobzed57 says:

      07:03am | 16/02/13

      ‘Substantial’, really? What’s substantial, 40%, 50% ....?  You tell me acotrel, and stump up the evidence.  Another Catholic bashing exercise. 

      I know you have a fondness for the ALP acotrel, which is why I find this post somewhat ironic given the ALP used to be/is the party to which Catholics gravitated.

    • Chillin says:

      07:49am | 16/02/13

      I am guessing there will be no proving the ‘substantial proportion’ with links?

      There’s a ‘substantial number’ of pensioners abusing kids, but we aren’t outraged about that.

    • jtz says:

      07:51am | 16/02/13

      How about when a large portion of your worker a corrupt and miss using government or union funds. How about if you help your friends make millionby giving them insider knowledge on mine deals.

      Pls acotrel you ALP troll keep quiet.

      http://connect.alp.org.au/members/acotrel/

      I respect all religions unlike you. Your atracks are on this article are for one purpose only.

    • Angry God of Townsville says:

      08:16am | 16/02/13

      Similar percentage of ALP MP’s at a state and federal level have been charged with similar offences. By your logic, Gillard must also consider resignation, mind you, September 15 will see it anyway.

    • JoniM says:

      08:52am | 16/02/13

      Jumped straight in again acotrel !

      Statistics prove that your “substantial” proportion of Catholic Church “workers” abusing kids, are in fact substantially less than the general population proportion of abusers, and certainly far less than the proportion of ALP politicians found to have committed such abuses !

    • Christian Real says:

      08:53am | 16/02/13

      jtz
      acotrel has just as much right as you to make a comment,typical liberal telling someone to keep quiet,another reason not to vote for the Liberal party who members attempt to suppress freedom of speech.

    • The Galah from Hervey Bay says:

      09:39am | 16/02/13

      Christian Real….remember Keith Wright….Bill D’arcy….your comments defending acotrel’s right to freedom of speech…places both of you in an indefensible position. By your own argument , one could demand the resignation of Labor Leaders in several spheres of governance.

    • Chillin says:

      09:51am | 16/02/13

      CR, you seemed dazed by this week’s current Labor Party political disasters.  It’s Roxon who wants to suppress free speech.  What party is she from again?

    • JTZ says:

      09:51am | 16/02/13

      @Christian Real. I have never and nor have I stated to acotrel that he has no right to his opinion. The fact I am pointing out here is that he has continued like yourself to continue to flout the line that he is an independent voter and has no links to the ALP which from my link shows he does have links to the ALP.

      His BS from a few months ago were he was stating to vote for and independent who puts labor second on there ballot but still running the line I am not linked to the ALP is incorrect.

    • Bho Ghan-Pryde says:

      12:03pm | 16/02/13

      Hi acotrel, I could follow the first part of your comment about power going to the head and such but got confused in the second part. Who are you talking about in the second part where you say “when a substantial proportion your workers are abusing kids?” Were you referring to the church or the ALP with that comment - perhaps both?
      I think we can all recall quite a few cases of child abuse and pornography and such in each of these organisations, at least one recent one in the ALP only weeks old in SA. You understand my confusion I am sure. Perhaps you meant both organisations.

    • acotrel says:

      02:16pm | 16/02/13

      @bobzed
      ’ the ALP used to be/is the party to which Catholics gravitated. ‘

      Most catholics have a strong social consciene so would naturally gravitate to the ALP.  And they did, until Menzies recognised the potential in playing with their commiephobia to keep himself in power.  How many soldiers did we lose in Vietnam through that idiocy ?

    • acotrel says:

      02:24pm | 16/02/13

      @Chillun
      ‘There’s a ‘substantial number’ of pensioners abusing kids, but we aren’t outraged about that. ‘

      Who says ?  How many child abusers can there be in an organisation, before the number is regarded as ‘substantial ?  One might be too many, especially if you were the one being abused after you trusted them ?

    • Bear says:

      02:31pm | 16/02/13

      Pot-kettle. Seeing as you’re playing semantics over one word. I guess there’s no need to provide evidence catholics gravitate to the all? I thought EVERYONE loved your dickhead party!?

    • Geronimo says:

      05:36am | 16/02/13

      Paving the way for his Monkey See Monkey Do Abbott to follow?

    • Ben says:

      07:11am | 16/02/13

      From Arthur Schopenhauer:

      “A last trick is to become personal, insulting, rude, as soon as you perceive that your opponent has the upper hand, and that you are going to come off worst…. But in becoming personal you leave the subject altogether, and turn your attack to his person, by remarks of an offensive and spiteful character. It is an appeal from the virtues of the intellect to the virtues of the body, or to mere animalism.”

    • Chillin says:

      07:53am | 16/02/13

      Couldn’t do any worse than the chimps in control of the country at the moment.  Sit back and watch them fling poo at each other, it’s quite entertaining.

      I could list out the failures of the present Government, but I haven’t got enough space.

    • cheap white trash says:

      08:13am | 16/02/13

      Abbott a Family man.

      Gillard a Destroyer of families,who would you Prefer Geronimo?

    • acotrel says:

      02:04pm | 16/02/13

      @CWT
      Trashy comment - only t o be expected .

    • Stained says:

      07:20am | 16/02/13

      Geronimo you are a first class fool, another idiot obsessed with Abbott.  He must be one hell of a threat to your insecurities.  For once the nut case’s comment prior to yours missed out on the first bile of the day against our next PM.  Did you get each other breakfast in bed?

    • Aghast says:

      09:47am | 16/02/13

      Geronimo may well be another idiot obsessed with Abbott…In a NEGATIVE way of course…Could you Stained be another idiot obsessed with Abbott in a POSITIVE way.
      All the way back in 2004 Abbott displayed his sad performance under pressure when he failed miserably to field questions regarding a visit to Pell.Going back all that way is unnecessary when it comes to displaying his failings but it does show a long term consistency to his stupidity.
      Get it in writing/Shit happens/Urban Wyatt/Ironing boards/Crap weather/Died of Shame/Gift of Virginity.The list is never ending and Abbott never seems to learn or improve and that is his greatest failing.Forget his sleazy lack of sensitivity he just lacks the discipline to help himself.Instead consider the lack of political prowess that he displays.He lacks professionalism as a politician he lacks compassion as a.man.He is less than a man.
      When his NSW colleague Brogden attempted suicide Abbotts flippant joke was appalling.When the Costa Concordia grounded with loss of life again he displayed his lack of manhood.Abbott is no knight in shining armour he is a self interested obsessed machine.
      Australia needs leadership and steady fiscal management.The Coalition can supply that…at least better than the current debacle.But why do they choose this embarrassment waiting to happen called Tony Abbott ???

    • acotrel says:

      02:29pm | 16/02/13

      ’ He must be one hell of a threat to your insecurities. ‘

      He is a hell of a threat to my securities.

      Good at identifying ‘nut cases’ are you ?  Looks like your politics have blinded you t o the glaringly obvious one leading the LNP.

    • Not on! says:

      07:21am | 16/02/13

      Whoah, what’s that orange capped man doing to the pope?

    • Watcher says:

      10:33am | 16/02/13

      In my day we called it “Confirmation Classes” or it might be catechism class

    • acotrel says:

      02:33pm | 16/02/13

      Kissing his ring ?
      Perhaps he’s just like the rest of us -  ‘Never give a sucker an even break’ ?

    • youdy beaudy says:

      07:33am | 16/02/13

      There’s probably nothing more in it than the fact that he is old and infirm now and is wanting to retire to work on his health. Maybe there’s nothing more than that. He’s old,not well and maybe had enough. Nothing wrong with that is there.?

      On the other hand he may be getting out before the Royal Commission reveals things that he doesn’t want revealed and he may feel that going will save the day a little, because if the Royal Commission is run correctly and digs deep and is not manipulated by those who are religious in the government or wherever and is true and honest then a lot of skeletons may leap from the cupboard.

      Anyway, it is not just the Catholic Church being investigated re pedophilia but they are all apparently being investigated as it should be. Pedophilia is within all religious groups not just one.

      The Royal Commission will probably never stop pedophilia but it will be able to uncover some of the past sins of the religions. Pedophiles are protected as many are in high places, it is not that pedophiles are some common slimey ordinary persons but in the higher sections of society as well and there are many there.

      Anyway, people can read what they like into why the Pope resigned but it may just be the same as any other elderly person would announce and not more than that Don’t worry, it won’t stop the Catholics believing and the next pope will head out to do the job again. Let’s hope that a job better than many popes of the past will be done, so at least some semblance of truth can come out of it so the believers can believe and know that their children are safe when going to school. Even Catholics would agree with that i’m sure.

    • Sanity says:

      10:10am | 16/02/13

      Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that there’s pedophilia in Buddhism? Hinduism? Sikhism? Baha’i? Wicca? Last I checked, there’s more religions that Christianity and Islam.

    • Damian says:

      07:43am | 16/02/13

      I’m not sure about “Second ... not gone away” if that point is setting out reasons that might have been in play in Benedict’s own thinking. 

      All the issues (except the Nazi one which is possibly a cheap shot) are correct, but I am not sure Benedict would see them as negative.  What I mean is: I would say that it is more likely that Benedict actually would see his conservatism, hate for LGBTI people, desire to control women, promotion of HIV, and protection of paedophiles ,etc as his great successes, not albatrosses hung around his neck forcing him to go.

      Not to mention that to the extent that the pundits might be believed, we may well get someone worse.  Though personally I don’t give credence to an African Pope: a buncha old white guys who hate gays and women gunna do that?  I don’t think so.

      P.S. whaddaboud that Richard III huh?

    • G. Nathan says:

      09:47am | 16/02/13

      A quick comment about the “cheap shot.”  I wasn’t suggesting Benedict was a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer; merely that those issues have dogged him.

      The other thing I should also mention is that the original editorial included a couple positives of Benedict’s papal stewardship, including significantly that one of his goals has been to address the history of anti-Semitism in the Church and reducing tensions between Catholics and Jews.  Space, however, didn’t allow those points to be fully elucidated.

    • Damian says:

      04:39pm | 16/02/13

      Thanks Nathan, I similarly meant “those who hang criticism on his Nazism are making cheap shots”, I agree, I wasn’t clear. It annoys me no end when my fellow angryatheists make a thing about his putative Nazism.

    • marley says:

      07:44am | 16/02/13

      Well, as I post this there are three comments on this blog, 2 from acotrel and 1 from geronimo.  All three are entirely vapid, entirely inane and entirely predictable.  Well done, boys:  I can bank on you to start the day off well.  There’s no way but up from here.

    • Chillin says:

      09:53am | 16/02/13

      Erick needed to be a Labor Party voter and he would still be here.

    • MarKet madness says:

      10:11am | 16/02/13

      Good to see the protected canook is guiding us all through the comments.
      Would you like to defend jtz and stained as they are part of your conservative brethren.  Or do your apologist duties not include your like minded conservative associates?

    • marley says:

      03:04pm | 16/02/13

      @MarKet/Gary - see if you can comprehend the first phrase of my sentence.  There were three comments up. l commented on them.  Then I went out for most of the day.  What do you expect me to do:  use ESP to read The Punch and mind signals to send in comments?

    • LJ Dots says:

      04:45pm | 16/02/13

      @Chillin, I’ll pay that. lol

    • emis95 says:

      07:47am | 16/02/13

      The next pope has to have the balls to rid the church of all priests who have abused children.

    • LC says:

      09:30am | 16/02/13

      As well as turn them over to the relevant law enforcement bodies.

    • acotrel says:

      02:19pm | 16/02/13

      ‘The next pope should excommunicate the balls of all priests who have abused children.

    • Mack says:

      10:18am | 16/02/13

      Is there a moderator awake today? What is this crap?

    • Mouse says:

      08:01am | 16/02/13

      Whatever you believe, I think that Pope Benedict should be given kudos for making the decision he has, rather than stay on to do a job he is physically and mentally unable to do. I think that says more about the devoutness and strength of the man than anything else.  :o)

    • Rose says:

      04:35pm | 16/02/13

      I agree. Being Pope would be a really tough gig at the best of times but the Church is largely going through a pretty rough patch, making the job even more difficult than normal. Kudos to him for recognizing his limitations and stepping down so some one who is stronger can take the reins and do their best to guide the Church from here.

    • The Senator says:

      08:19am | 16/02/13

      I think JP II was elected Pope in 1978.

    • marley says:

      09:08am | 16/02/13

      I think you’re right.

    • The Senator says:

      08:21am | 16/02/13

      Acotrel: You’re a smug c**t.

    • Christian Real says:

      08:26am | 16/02/13

      Does the Catholics of World really need the Pope?
      This is from the internet:
      You pray in Jesus name because 1 Timothy 2:5 says, “For there is one God,and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ.’
      Please do not hail, pray to/ through Mary or the Saints or the Pope,or in anyone elses name.
      Only pray to God in the Lord Jesus Christ’s name.  because God said there is only one mediator between man and God. To find God we have to go His way,not the world’s way or religion’s way.
      “I am the Lord; that is my name! “
      “I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.”  Isiah: 42:8

    • The Senator says:

      09:04am | 16/02/13

      As a reformed protestant, I used to think that too CR.

      Consider Matt 16:18-19. Or Paul’s Epistles where he emphasises the importance of Christ’s Church.

      Read some of Scott Hahn’s gear.

    • Greg says:

      09:19am | 16/02/13

      WTF? Please explain. Has it ever occurred to you, that if you have nothing relevant to say, shut your mouth? This is another one of CR’s rambling, nonsensical posts - means nothing, If he isn’t backing his little ALP/UNION loving mate, acotrel, CR just sprouts rubbish. And seriously, YOU want to run for government? What a joke. Just shows the calibre of Labor people and WHY no-one should ever vote for this corrupt, disgusting, theiving party. What about your mate Thomson? What a filthy grub he is, but CR constantly backs him. Go away CR - you are the biggest fool to post on this site.

    • The Galah from Hervey Bay says:

      09:51am | 16/02/13

      Christian…the Catholic faith consists , in part , a belief that the elected Pope is Christ’s Disciple on earth . You have no justification in questioning the needs of the world’s catholics. Using dogma from other religions to indulge in Pope bashing does little to assist your credibility.

    • JoniM says:

      10:04am | 16/02/13

      “Does the Catholics of World really need the Pope?”

      Does the ALP really need unions ?
      Does climate change really need to be a problem in need of solution ?

      Everyone to their own religion, I guess !

    • jtz says:

      12:24pm | 16/02/13

      Let’s rephrase Christian realms line. Do Muslim really need Ayotollah or mullahs.

      If some one had written the above line you will be screaming racism

    • Christian Real says:

      03:50pm | 16/02/13

      Greg
      Obviously you haven’t looked at your own reflection in the mirror lately.

    • HIDING TRUTH says:

      09:11am | 16/02/13

      By the age of eighteen, approximately 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 6 boys will have experienced some form of unwanted sexual contact. At the commencement of sexual abuse the average age of the victim is 7 or 8 years. Currently more than half are under ten years of age at the time of reporting. (Australian Crime: Facts and Figures, 2011).

      Most offenders are relatives or close friends of the child and/or family, someone whom the child trusts. The most common relationship of the offender to the victim is the father (biological or social); “Fathers, step-fathers and other male relatives (including siblings) made up more than half (51.6%) of perpetrators for females, and approximately one-fifth (21.4%) of perpetrators against males” (ACSSA, “The Nature and Extent of Sexual Assault and Abuse in Australia, C. Tarczon & A. Quadara, 2012)

    • Cam says:

      11:23am | 16/02/13

      Yes but for many, why let the truth get in the way of an outrageous headline?

    • marley says:

      10:36am | 16/02/13

      I don’t think I’d be very concerned about this.  The ITCCS appears to be from the lunatic fringe.  I’ve had a quick look at the Italian papers, and they are all saying that the Pope is meeting with both the PM and the President to say his good-byes;  they’re certainly not suggesting he’s requesting any sort of immunity.  This is a story made up from thin air.

    • ramases says:

      09:19am | 16/02/13

      Here’s my three reason, who cares, who cares and who cares, oh and add to that who cares.
        Much ado about nothing and nothing will change for the victims of the abuse that has been perpetrated and covered up by this august group. Different person same crap.

    • Ben says:

      10:24am | 16/02/13

      This is getting funnier by the minute:

      “If there is any justice in this world Julia Gillard will lead the ALP to victory in 2013. She’s copped so much garbage, and handled it with aplomb. She’s achieved under the most difficult circumstances, while maintaining an inclusive, democratic leadership style.”

      Alan Cotterell Benalla Vic

      http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/justice_for_julia_2LDAYCwjbO7NpctgqjtRrI

    • LC says:

      04:08pm | 16/02/13

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      Aww man, that’s a good one.

      Then again, it WAS published a year ago.

    • vox says:

      10:28am | 16/02/13

      I’m waiting for him to say, “I’m leaving so that I can spend more time with the children”.

    • P. Darvio says:

      10:39am | 16/02/13

      So the biggest convention of Virgins is about to take place, to elect in a polit bureau style election (the only difference being the smoke) their new Dear Leader of the most theocratic religious State on the Planet, a State that:

      1. Has no Democracy and clearly doesn’t believe in Democracy.
      2. Has no Democratic Elections
      3. Does not allow women to vote in these elections
      4. No children are allowed to live in the State
      5. No Sex is allowed
      6. No one can start a family
      7. Almost all the food and electricity is imported from another Country
      8. They pay little or not tax
      9. They literally give children Cancer getting their message out via their high powered Radio System
      10. They promote the lifestyle of a fictional but delusional figure that, according to their own literature, bashed up bankers, killed defenceless animals in the thousands, cursed a lot – especially at out of season fig trees and told parents to kill their own children if they misbehaved.
      11. They promote the lifestyle of a fictional Supreme Great Leader who once killed everyone on the Planet except a few select humans, a few animals – including dinosaurs, who escaped on a BIG wooden boat.

      I guess its just business as usual for these people. No wonder religion is such a threat to our democratic secular way of life.

    • Margaret Dungan says:

      11:05am | 16/02/13

      My only concern is George Pell “The Hypocrite #1”!
      I really don’t think another Pope Benedict is a good idea either.  We need someone who is not afraid to make changes and has the intestinal fortitude to rid the church of pedophiles and perverts.

    • Alex says:

      11:16am | 16/02/13

      My impression of history at the University of New South Wales has just plummeted!

      He might be good at antiquity but the author of this article clearly shows he has NO IDEA about contemporary history.

      JPII mentally inert: Have you read anything that JPII wrote from 2000 until his death? Probably some of the deepest things he had to say. Do you understand that Parkinsons and the other illnesses he had are not mental illnesses?

      Benedict uncomfortably mingled with the legacy of Nazi Germany? If you understood the context of Nazi Germany and that the Hitler Jugend involved compulsory conscription, you might be open enough to accept the witnesses who say he was unenthusiastic about it and refused to attend meetings.

      AWOL on paedophilia: Have you bothered to read anything Pope Benedict has written and said on the topic? Have you counted the priests he has defrocked and resignation of bishops he has accepted? Have you seen the amount of time he spent in the UK visiting victims of abuse? And in the US? And how many interviews and speeches he has given on the topic?

      JPII elected in ‘1981’ - um…. try 1978 my friend.

      As a ‘historian’, you’re not really into sources are you? Easier just to go with the personal prejudices, as they are much easier to come by, and don’t involve visiting a library, or even Google.

      It’s amazing how every man and his dog has something to say about the Pope, regardless of their level of ignorance. This article is my favourite so far, only because the author purports to be a historian.

      The Pope has guarded the Catholic faith as it was given by Jesus Christ. All Popes, regardless of their weaknesses, have amazingly done the same. It is the same faith, the same teachings, and in the face of the same boring criticisms that sceptical onlookers have made for over 2000 years.

      Sorry to disappoint you Geoff, but my money’s on the next Pope doing the same.

    • K-Oz says:

      04:49pm | 16/02/13

      Appreciate your post, unlike the inane and childish “contributions” of most others.

    • vox says:

      01:22pm | 16/02/13

      I’ll try again. Maybe he wants to spend more time with the children.

    • Typical punching Tard says:

      01:43pm | 16/02/13

      I can think of a few too . Gillard!! Gillard!!!! Gillaaaaaard!!!!!

    • NSS says:

      04:00pm | 16/02/13

      This thread is pretty much garbage. Marley is right, unfortunately, I don’t see much which contributes to this discussion in any other way than the usual one-eyed Aussie partisanship.  So, for a change of pace, I thought I might address the author’s conclusion viz:

      “Whatever his background, the College cannot continue to elect do-nothing pontiffs. Benedict’s successor will have to be as vigorous and principled as John-Paul II when he was elected in 1981.

      It’s unclear which way the white smoke will blow, but I predict that the next Pope will be a staunch, youngish conservative (the wrong choice, in my opinion). “

      This seems somewhat contradictory to the substance of the article to me, ie that Ratzinger is a conservative with a murky past who is out of date and therefore the Church had to “let him resign” *cough* ie give him the elbow, but now the author is suggesting the Church must elect a “do something” Pope, but that Pope will be a conservative as well. Even though I agree that that is the most likely outcome of the conclave, what exactly is he expecting him to “do” and how will that be any better than Benedict? It feels like this article stopped half-way.

      Sorry, having trouble seeing your point, Mr Nathan, but that’s not unusual for me around here, I’m often bamboozled. Ha!

    • Omphalos says:

      04:03pm | 16/02/13

      Personally I go with Hewitt Gleeson, that the resignation was done to head off Bertone and the Curia from taking power as “regents” in his infirmity. As someone else noted, this article appears to be written by a trainee tabloid historian.

    • Luc Belrose says:

      04:05pm | 16/02/13

      The Pope as head of the Catholic Church has heavy responsibilities to ensure the right teachings and message of Christ be communicated and practised by their huge flock around the world. Occasionally they come up with important doctrinal pronouncements which the Church and the Catholics have to accept and follow.
      I would have liked to see the Popes come out of the Vatican headquarters and mix more frequently with the grassroots and world leaders. A famous example is the very charismatic John Paul II who was seen as one of the most influential leaders of the 20th century; he was known to have had a role in the end of Communist rule in his native Poland.
      I would like to see Popes play a very useful role in getting nations closer and participate in the decrease of tension, threats of war and the protection of women in many parts of the world. What is the point of having all this treasure of knowledge, history and deep comprehenson of mankind without using it for the good of humanity. Pope John Paul II had a go ... Popes should be more involved in the future of not only Catholics but mankind.

 

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