Asylum seekers are back on top of the news cycle again. It’s almost like those heady days when MV Tampa was anchored threateningly off Christmas Island. This time round there is a delightful little twist.

Raquel finds it all a little too confronting. Pic: SBS

Rather than anxiously imagining the horrible wretches that threaten to penetrate our sovereign territory, viewers are instead invited to ponder the imagination - or lack thereof - amongst a representative sample of middle Australians who suffer from refugee anxiety.

The most interesting aspect of this undertaking is that Go Back To Where You Came From resembles an Escher engraving. All those years ago, the Howard government recognised that boat-borne asylum seekers could be used to stage an extremely successful political pantomime. It had pirate-like people smugglers, captured cargo ships, illegal immigrants, the Navy, the Army: a great ensemble by any measure.

Creating a security dilemma around “stopping the boats” allowed the conservative government to demonstrate itself to be bold, capable of dramatic, effective action to protect a pre-conceived national interest. The votes followed.

Now we are treated to a pantomime within the aforementioned pantomime. The series’ creators have evidently decided that conjured image is best countered with yet another conjured image. Spectacle shall be met with yet another spectacle.

It is an interesting idea, yet I feel one destined to fail. Certainly it may lay bare a few “realities” for those who continue to delude themselves about the lot of the average asylum seeker. However, I cannot imagine many epiphanies were experienced across Australia. This is due to the long running failure of the refugee lobby to recognise that:

a) reason has no place in this debate, and

b) most people are content to embrace a “virtual reality” firmly within the limits of their own parochial imaginations.

Reason is a lost cause in the asylum seeker issue. Counter arguments will not persuade many people that the sovereign borders of Australia are not as vulnerable as imagined nor that a small number of asylum seekers are no big deal.

This has been made abundantly clear by the support that wildly disproportionate policies to interdict and detain boat people have garnered over the years. In such a situation reason is turned on its head. It suddenly becomes reasonable to build remote camps, detain people indefinitely, and use epithets like offshore processing as though one was talking about cows and not people.

It would appear that a more intractable problem is at play. Many Australians are deeply insecure about the presence of unfamiliar asylum seekers within their imagination. The series displays this powerfully. Within their regular lives the participant Australian “characters” essentially have no contact with, or experience of asylum seekers.

Yet across the program, despite the repeated confrontation with hardship and injustice refugees endure daily, the Australians display an utter inability to relate to the refugees they do meet in any enduring, sophisticated, or self-aware manner.

The intimidating presence of asylum seekers was clearly illustrated in the first episode: If you come from an exceedingly mundane, undistinguished, over privileged, secure Australian background, how do you relate to someone who has been through hell and high water for a chance at what you take for granted?

In the exchanges of stories and experiences - the practice through which we create our social identities - most Australians (indeed any average middle-class westerner) have very little to compare to the “real life” experiences of those fleeing disaster.

The exchanges in the first episode, in which Roderick, Raye, and Raquel learned of the experiences of a refugee family, were indicative. Shocked into silent submission, fundamentally unaware of what to do, all three listened to stories of rape, murder, and violence. The result was horrible, their middle class anxieties were shown to be ridiculous and self-indulgent, they were out of their depth, and the gravest injury: the embarrassment that they had nothing to offer in return.

They had no story to tell of themselves, no experience that could possibly be acceptable or worth sharing in that situation, instead they could only titter nervously or remain mute. Their false pride in their cherished Australian identities suddenly became embarrassing: they had suffered no real hardship, walked no long road to freedom. By comparison the stories the Australians told about themselves revolving around a hobby farm, caring for dogs, playing cricket, and going to the pub made them look pathetic and infantile.

To my mind this is the greatest problem of all in the asylum seeker situation - the presence within our society of these few unfortunates challenges both our own identities and our society. Asylum seekers force us to consider the global inequality that we enjoy. To acknowledge that our mundane, stupid lives take place amongst suffering we know about yet constantly avoid.

The great anxiety asylum seekers create demonstrates how desperately we wish to avoid any disturbance to this “virtual reality”. As the travellers were drawn further and further from their comfort zone in the later episodes, it became clear they had to choose to rethink their attitudes or embrace prejudice in order to justify their unjustifiable privilege.

Australia’s treatment of asylum seekers demonstrates unequivocally that rather than undertake the painful process of confronting injustice, we will embrace cruelty to secure privilege.

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    • Erick says:

      05:48am | 28/06/11

      “a) reason has no place in this debate”

      Only if you’re pro-boat-people. All their arguments are based on emotional manipulation - presenting themselves as “compassionate”, “tolerant”, “welcoming” while their opponents are “callous”, “xenophobic” and “heartless”. Similarly, illegal immigrants are portrayed as innocent, persecuted refugees. It’s all an attempt to pull on the heartstrings.

      “b) most people are content to embrace a “virtual reality” firmly within the limits of their own parochial imaginations.”

      This is exemplified by the boat people lobby’s complete inability to comprehend the motives of its opponents. Rather than address the arguments themselves, they rely on personal attacks based on their own erroneous assumptions and prejudices.

      They fail to persuade because first of all they fail to understand. So they expend great efforts in fighting ghostly opponents that exist in their own imaginations but not in reality. Thus we have silly propaganda programs like the SBS show, and silly articles like this one - equally ineffective because they are based on false assumptions.

    • Gav says:

      08:00am | 28/06/11

      So whats the solution Cameron? An ounce pf prevention is worth a pound of cure right? So, go to the countries that are rife with corruption, persecution etc and do what needs to be done.  But what is that? The bad guys aren’t going to just throw up there hands and be good blokes now are they? 

      So come on, you’ve got a big enough mouth to have a go at pretty much every Australian who dares live there life because we can’t control everything single thing that goes on in the world (we can’t even stop our own indigenous population from turning on each other), open that gob a bit wider and see if anything other than more useless bile comes out.

    • Amy says:

      08:37am | 28/06/11

      I have a serious question Erick, how are you always the first comment on stories? It’s so weird! Do you have a special warning system that a new story is about to be uploaded?

    • fml says:

      10:15am | 28/06/11

      No one is asking you to control everything Gav,

      Dares live their life? Thats exactly what the seekers want. They want to share in the pie that you have been given as a birth right.

    • Bobster says:

      10:58am | 28/06/11

      Erick, it’s good to see you’re still impervious to basic observation.

      Have any of the policies you’ve supported worked? No.

      Have they worked even a little bit? No.

      Have you been personally affected by their failure? No.

      Is it a major, major issue for people like you? Yes

      Have you ever been able to explain why you care so much? No.

      Is racism and xenophobia a reasonable assumption based on your previous inability to articulate your motives? Yes.

      All we get is constant hysteria because anyone dares equate your “asylum seeker anxiety” to racism. Why are you surprised? What other conclusion is there?

      You are only worried about people with brown skin. Address this. You have no Kiwi or Brit anxiety. You have no anxiety about illegal immigration by whites. It only seems to come to the fore when boats or brown people are involved.

      Explain and maybe you won’t get called on your racism quite so much.

    • Gav says:

      11:27am | 28/06/11

      So how many FML?  Tell me what magical number of refugees/Asylum seekers will absolve me of being fortunate?  And what about the rest of them? Moving people from the problem doesn’t solve the problem, it just makes it worse for those who are left.

      Also - if you are “better off” than me can I just come to your place and start demanding stuff? And if you take too long (in my opinion) can I start trashing the joint?

    • fml says:

      12:11pm | 28/06/11

      Gav,

      There is no magic number, I dont understand why there has to be an “Us versus them” mentality.

      Obviously we are not going to open our borders. I think, correct me if i am wrong, neither of us want to totally stop all our refugee intake, and neither of us want to have an open border policy.

      If you feel guilty for being fortunate, that is something you have to deal with internally. Neither stopping the boats nor opening the borders will stop that guilt. It seems like both sides are looking at extreme ends of the spectrum hoping that a compromise that occurs somewhere in the middle can be reached. I think that most pro-asylum seekers are worried about the people the anit-boaters are saying that ALL refugees will be stopped, while the pro-boaters are thinking the others are saying let everyone in.

      We have a policy, if they are found to be refugees they are let in. The pro-boaters are saying that the processing should be quicker.

      “Also - if you are “better off” than me can I just come to your place and start demanding stuff? And if you take too long (in my opinion) can I start trashing the joint?”

      Obviously not all asylum seekers riot, even if they do, its a result of being held up in detention for long periods that is the problem, if the processing is quicker they are either accepted quicker or sent back home quicker, and there is less chance of rioting.

    • Gav says:

      12:50pm | 28/06/11

      FML, you are right, I don’t want to close the borders completely, but I have the overwhelming feeling that those who come by boat (paying cash via “safe”, or at least safer, countries) aren’t the most worthy of Asylum. 

      Just after the floods, here in Brisbane on the front page of the Couriermail was a picture of volunteers helping clean up a street, about 10 or so people, 1 of which was an african gentleman whose quote was words to the effect of “i’m helping because this country saved my life”.  That is the kind of person I would gladly welcome here.

    • me my mo says:

      01:11pm | 28/06/11

      I think it’s about time we had another comment from Bobster

    • fml says:

      01:11pm | 28/06/11

      Thats true Gav,

      I am uncertain though how we can determine someones attitude like that with any measurable methods.

      Good work on that bloke helping out too. We need more stories like that in the papers to provide a bit of balance.

    • Bobster says:

      01:30pm | 28/06/11

      Yeah, it is about time. Seeing as it’s lunch and all.

      Why are you idiots bleating about open borders versus closed borders?

      Has anyone worth listening to actually advocated either of these policies? Reductio adsurdum ad infinitum does not make a sound argument on either side.

      Once again, the debate has, within 30 seconds, degenerated into idiotic name-calling, coffee prejudice and accusations of bias and propaganda against everyone who disagrees with anyone.

      This is Gillard’s fault. Only that brainless twit could attempt to legitimise “anxiety” without realising that all that would get us is outright paranoia and racism.

      On one side we’ve got racist idiots claiming discrimination against their racism and on the other side we’ve got… Actually, on the otherside I don’t know what we’ve got because you can’t hear them over the screams of the indignant racists who think it’s beyond reason to ask they explain themselves.

    • Erick says:

      03:31pm | 28/06/11

      @Amy - Early to bed, early to rise!

      @Bobster - Thank you for providing such a perfect illustration of the points I made in my first comment. Your cheque is in the mail.

    • Bobster says:

      04:57pm | 28/06/11

      @ Erick,

      So, we can take from that that I am bang on. I have assessed your motives correctly and you are, in fact, racist?

    • Peter says:

      06:20am | 29/06/11

      @  Erick –great post, more please.

      @ Gav   I agreeing with much of what you wrote except this one point:
      [So, go to the countries that are rife with corruption, persecution etc and do what needs to be done. ]
      It won’t work –it’s been tried before – it only serves to give the open borders mob more ammunition: a la “We helped created the problem and therefore, we have an obligation to accept all comers claiming to come from the problem area”.

      @ Bobster [All we get is constant hysteria because anyone dares equate your “asylum seeker anxiety”…what other conclusion is there?] a statement like that only shows your limited range. There was a time a long, long time ago when most Western nations could manage who entered their domain. It was actually consider right & proper to do so.  Now apparently some consider it lacking in compassion or “racist”. ( addendum: Oh, it’s only officially racist if you’re a Western nation –it wont even rate whimper with asylum seeker friendlies if you’re Nigeria , China, Japan or Brazil   )

    • Bobster says:

      07:54pm | 29/06/11

      I’m not sure if you’re deliberately obtuse or if it comes naturally, Peter, but I’ll respond anyway.

      No one is saying Australia shouldn’t vet new arrivals, we just call you racist because your “anxiety” is only inflamed when the new arrivals have brown skin.

    • John C says:

      06:18am | 28/06/11

      Without delving into the rights and wrongs of the refugee issue, I have to say that I have read few articles on this site or elsewhere that are as contemptuous of Australians as this one. Who is this person.

    • Paul says:

      07:04am | 28/06/11

      some guy living a stupid mundane life, apparently.

    • acotrel says:

      08:18am | 28/06/11

      @JohnC People who treat others as we treat asylum seeker families, deserve contempt!

    • Matt says:

      09:35am | 28/06/11

      Don’t worry guys! He’s an expert! He’s studied International Relations at Uni, so obviously he knows what he is talking about.

      The only reason he doesn’t have a job is that he’s still looking for a place where they serve decent fat free soy lattes.

    • Anubis says:

      09:52am | 28/06/11

      The author is unemployed latte-set wanker who studied International Relations at Melbourne Uni. What possible career path did he perceive from studying that subject??

    • Bobster says:

      11:04am | 28/06/11

      I think your assumption that this is contemptuous of Australians rather than of a section of Australians speaks volumes about your own prejudices.

      Obviously you think intolerance is pretty widespread here in Oz, so any criticism of that is, by your own argument, entirely valid.

    • John C says:

      11:51am | 28/06/11

      Bobster, your lack of logic is awesome. As for your perception of my assumptions, the opinion writer refers to most Australians and many Australians and the majority of Australians. Okay, so it is only the majority of Australians for whom he has contempt, rather than those Australians, no doubt like your good self, who agree with him. Good point, Bobster, you and he are as one.

    • Bobster says:

      11:58am | 28/06/11

      So, you’ve proved his point again, haven’t you?

      You feel he was speaking about you, you therefore agree with his assessment and take offence.

      And yes, he and I are as one on that. I can’t stand the “asylum seeker anxiety” that most Australians feel. I find it disgusting. It is patently racist no matter how you dress it up.

      It is worthy of contempt and if you feel it tars all Australians, well, then all that says is you agree with us.

    • Kevin says:

      12:03pm | 28/06/11

      I think that to the extent his comments are justified, they would apply to the citizens of any affluent western nation.

    • Bobster says:

      12:13pm | 28/06/11

      I have no doubt about that, Kevin.

      Of course, to say so makes you a latte-sipping Marxist, wallowing in the politics of envy, all the while bent on class warfare.

    • franklin says:

      12:27pm | 28/06/11

      The 2001 Australian Electoral Study, which analysed the behaviour of the electorate, surveyed voters at the height of the campaign (“Tampa election”) and found that, by a politically overwhelming margin of three to one, respondents supported the principle of a hard line position on boat people.

      This majority support held true across eight of nine occupational categories into which respondents were divided. In only one category, the “social professionals”, was there majority opposition to government policy, and this category only represented 10 per cent of those surveyed.

      “The attitudes of the social professionals are quite unlike those of the rest of the sample”, wrote Dr Katherine Betts in an analysis of the electoral survey. “It shows how unrepresentative the vocal social professionals are of other voters; it is not just that they do not speak for the working class, they do not speak for a majority in any other occupational group.”

      Author/journalist Paul Sheehan noted: “Had the government been perceived by the public to be allowing Australian sovereignty to be rendered irrelevant and public policy to be dictated by an alliance of people smugglers, asylum seekers, journalists and legal activists, the political upheaval would have been enormous. Real damage would have been done to the public’s faith in the legal system, the democratic process and the immigration system.”

    • cur says:

      07:14am | 28/06/11

      6 people out of 22636325 (and counting - aus bureau of stats population clock). oh, and we got to see 3 hours (divided by six people - so half an hour each) out of a 25 day experiment.

      good representative sample that. i agree.

    • Brian Taylor says:

      07:16am | 28/06/11

      Calum you take them if you’re so damn worried about them, you feed them and look after them, without using taxpayers money that is.
      But that’d never happen, far better to sit either at home (more likely) and write silly little blogs saying everyone who doesn’t agree with your world view is wromh
      “walked no long road to freedom” ahhh haven’t all of them paid big bucks to be brought here?
      No where in your blog have you said anything about all those 1000’s of refugees that came here legally.
      I can’t see tanks and planes at the airports blocking them from entry into Aust, nor are there protesters waving signs at the airport either? why? because we don’t care if they come here legally, its just the ones jumping the line to get here that we don’t like, get a life mate or better yet a job to suport all the refugees that you’re going to have camping out at your place

    • fml says:

      10:16am | 28/06/11

      I will happily donate my tax money.

    • Bobster says:

      11:06am | 28/06/11

      Also quite happy for my tax dollars to support those who weren’t born rich.

    • Jade (the other one) says:

      01:37pm | 28/06/11

      But Brian Taylor, the ones at the airport often don’t come here legally. It’s the ignorance of the Australian population, deftly demonstrated by your comments, that people who do have some understanding of refugees, and international law get upset about.

      Furthermore, only around 50% of asylum seekers arriving by plane are found to be genuine. Whereas around 98% of those arriving by boat are found to be genuine.

      If Australians weren’t xenophobic racists obsessed by this ridiculous issue, and bothered to investigate facts, they would be protesting at airports nationwide.

      Its the ignorance of the public, and the disgustingly racist manifestation of that ignorance which I hate.

    • Shifter says:

      04:37pm | 28/06/11

      @BT - I’ve always though the likelihood of a genuine refugee being able to afford an international flight into Australia for their entire family is pretty slim.

      A refugee, or asylum seeker is generally one fleeing their country due to political persecution. There’s been a few well known instances of this across history: Jews, Kurds et al, and they’ve got one idea in mind - surviving.

      Once granted asylum these refugees are free to integrate into society, have jobs, pay tax. They become self supporting, comparitive to a low income family born in Australia.

      So is your argument the ‘we grew here, you flew here’ one?

    • Sherlock says:

      07:31am | 28/06/11

      Just another self flagellating leftie with absolutely no idea and the only solution he can put forward is to throw open our borders to anyone who can get here by any means possible.

      Next week he will tackle the issue of the war in Afghanistan t by telling everybody that they have to play nice with each other.

    • Bobster says:

      11:07am | 28/06/11

      Nah, we can sort out Afghanistan pretty easily.

      My nan always warned me not to start a fight I couldn’t finish. Wish John Howard knew my nan.

    • ian m says:

      07:56am | 28/06/11

      open borders wow a great investment for our country 85% of afghan refugees given asylum are unemployed and on welfare. the German experience, between 2000 and 2010 they took in 5 million refugees of which they beleive only 30000 have managed to gain full time employment! wow what a excellent investment in our future they will make allowing in loads of people who seem to have no intent on becoming part of the mainsteream society.

    • marley says:

      08:54am | 28/06/11

      If you want to argue facts, then produce them, don’t invent them.  The Germans received about 480,000 asylum claims in the years 2000 to 2010 - not 5 million. And not all of those 480,000 would have been accepted.

    • Willy says:

      11:23am | 28/06/11

      Ian M, you personify the uninformed, ignorant side of this “debate”. 5 million you say? Get real buddy

    • ian m says:

      11:38am | 28/06/11

      sorry 5 million refugees not asylum seekers but the 30k is correct. sorry i havent got the link anymore it was 6 months or more it was published in spiegel

    • marley says:

      01:09pm | 28/06/11

      @Ian - there is no way the Germans accepted 5 million refugees - first, they have only resettled a handful of refugees from offshore in the last 1o years, and second, the refugees they’ve accepted onshore came from that 480,000.  Five million refugees is simply nonsense.

    • The Badger says:

      01:27pm | 28/06/11

      There are 594,269 refugees residing in Germany
      and there are 51,991 asylum seekers residing in Germany.
      It’s not that hard boys and girls
      http://tinyurl.com/3w2jxnz

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      03:43pm | 28/06/11

      What drivel.  The report was not about asylum seekers from AFghanistan, it was about refugees “invited” from various parts of Africa.

      And let’s face it 85% of bugger all is bugger all.

      5,100 people to be precise.

      Hardly think that makes much difference to the 600,000 or so Aussies who are also unemployed.

    • kirsty says:

      08:04am | 28/06/11

      The thing is when these debates come up barely anyone who is ‘pro-boat’ discusses what happens after the door is left open.  What do we do about housing (for the long term, not just short term solutions); will they get taught English; require counselling; will they be screened for illnesses and if so will they be vaccinated etc;will they be helped to find a job; what about those who are already on the unemployment/disability list how will they be affected; what happens to taxes and so forth. 

      So many questions that don’t even get brought up that we ought to know before a well informed decision or opinion can be formed by the wider community.

    • John the Zombie says:

      09:26am | 28/06/11

      kirsty I have given links before showing what has happened in countries such as France, UK, Italy ect etc where immgration has been on the line of letting them come in and not keeping check on all refugees but the Pro Boat group does not reply.

      Also I am not against refugees, I am against boat arrvial (economic asylum seekers). There are millions of refugees sitting in camps in many countries waiting for thier application to be proccessed to come to Australia but these ppl are left in limbo as there spots are taken by boat people. Do not forget we have a limit on refugees we intake so that means when 5,500 boat people arrive, 5,500 ppl living in refugee camps are having thier applications delayed.

      All you have to do is read the stories by former UN workers who watch as govt groups in these countries massacre the refugees in these camps. I remembe reading a story from a US marine who was on attachment to Darfur and watching as the militia and govt troops attacked a refugee camp (not the refugees in this camp were all christians) and massacred all refugees there. The marine was unable to do anything as UN does not allow the to take action unless they are fired upon.

      Can I ask the Pro Boat lobby what will happen if someone is found not to be a genuine asylum seeker and they are already in the community. Do you think they would wait for the govt to take them to be deported or do you think they will run, from the current action a guess the later will apply.

    • fml says:

      10:19am | 28/06/11

      What is the difference between economic refugees and economic migrants?

      If they are accepted into australia as refugees, why shouldnt they be allowed access to the same resources as you and i?

      Kirsty, They are given health checks before they are accepted.

    • kirsty says:

      10:51am | 28/06/11

      Thanks John, there seems to be no discussion as to a long term plan and that is what annoys me. Surely we should learn from France and co that we need to have policies in place that promote integration via work programs, learning English and skills that will help them find a job so that we don’t restart a cycle of poverty in the refugee families.  We need to know what is going to happen next instead of just slinging insults around and talking down to each other.

    • Shifter says:

      04:47pm | 28/06/11

      @kirsty - that seems to be the major sticking point with the government. It seems intent on spending money to shut the door on or imprison anyone seeking refugee status.

      Why not have a re-think and see how these people can be processed and integrated more efficiently?

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/21/3249679.htm suggests we have less than 0.5 of the world’s asylum seekers.

      Refugee Council of Australia spokesman Paul Power: “For Australia to be making a lot of fuss about what in global terms is a very small number of asylum seekers undermines the credibility of our country,”

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      08:21am | 28/06/11

      Simple any human being arriving on our shores seeking asylum is our responsibility. Whether they arrive here by air or sea it is our moral obligation to deal with them in the most civilized way. If the Govt want off shore processing so be it BUT Australia in a humane way should control how they are being taken care of while being processed.

      Malaysia isn’t an option, to send human beings to live in squalid hovels is not only inhumane but disgusting for a well developed country like Australia.

      Day by day this Govt just keeps embarrassing this nation on the world stage!

    • William says:

      09:11am | 28/06/11

      I’d have a better reply to you, but my lips are sewn together.

    • David says:

      09:55am | 28/06/11

      @ William

      Please keep your lips sewn together as your contribution is not warranted.

    • Kevin says:

      08:28am | 28/06/11

      We need our human tragedy served up in small easily digestible portions.  Thus ACA and TT give us heart rending stories about siamese twins or a boy with the disfigured face.  A happy ending is essential.

    • OLD MAX says:

      08:33am | 28/06/11

      It’s about time we told the world NO MORE BOAT PEOPLE WILL BE ACCEPTED INTO AUSTRALIA…they are sending us broke. We have our own people in distress who are being neglected because of the boat people

    • fml says:

      10:20am | 28/06/11

      Greece and Ireland are broke, we are actually doing ok.

    • Bobster says:

      02:03pm | 28/06/11

      We’re actually filthy rich. We’re just very, very fat and greedy, and think an extra tax on billionaires is a world-ending problem.

    • Janey says:

      08:44am | 28/06/11

      Not many epiphanies across Australia as a result of this film you say Calum?
      Not even with the deliberate casting of those particular participants, who you claim are a representative sample of those with “refugee anxiety”?
      Well I certainly had one.  SBS are no better than the tabloid channels inflicted upon us in this day and age.
      One of the participants outright admitted she was a racist, so why don’t you call it truthfully? SBS made sure they got hold of 6 ignorant and racist individulas to “represent” the rest of us.  More Today Tonight or A Current Affair than a serious documentary.

      Why weren’t all you and your self aware, sophisticated and enduring companions cast instead Calum?  I rate your rhetoric as nothing more than a symbol of your own guilt.  I experienced many moral dilemmas and saw much injustice while travelling in third world countries twenty years ago - you know, before I was labelled as a xenophobe and racist due to my white, middle class existence in this country.  The last twenty years have been spent sponsoring families directly and delivering donations of clothing and other supplies to those people.
      For what it is worth Calum, I am also more than happy to accept boat people fleeing persecution, if that is genuinely the case. 

      Unfortunately, SBS will have to make a new film - this time focussing on those boat people with large sums of money, mobile phones and relatives already in Australia, in order to quell many Australians’ suspicions of country shopping by these particular people.

      Then, we should come together and see who has had an epiphany.

    • TracyH says:

      01:27pm | 28/06/11

      Great response Janey. Thankyou.

    • Jack Richards says:

      08:47am | 28/06/11

      I’ve been watching, and hearing about, heart-wrenching tales concerning refugees since the late 1950s. I am completely compassioned out and have been for a good 50 years.

      It seems that the same shitholes that produced the refugees then are still producing them now - with the one possible exception of Rhodesia.

      Back in the 1960s Rhodesia was a successful country: it’s infrastructure worked, its people were fed, and it was a big exporter of top quality food. But then the sandal and sarong lefties discovered that it was run by about 300,000 whites and so it was excommunicated from the world and forced to adopt the majority rule of the oppressed black man.

      Since then every farm has fallen into ruin, starvation and disease is rampant, a full quarter of the population has fled to South Africa, and the paper-money has the distinction of being the most worthless in history.

      But it is heart-warmingly now run by a black, Mr Robert Mugabe, and not that arsehole white-man Ian Smith. Another great success for the dickheads in the world who prefer their ideological purity and wishful thinking to reality.

      “...in order to justify their unjustifiable privilege”.

      If I wasn’t choking on vomit from reading this, I’d probably write something even-handed, sympathetic and balanced as I regularly do. Instead I’ll just go off and enjoy my “unjustifiable privelege”.

    • Fitzgerald says:

      09:21am | 28/06/11

      Wow
      Hit a nerve with that racism thing did we?
      Someone took away your unjustified privilege?
      If there is is a lesson to be learned from this post, it is beware of people wearing sandals and wanting representative democracy.

    • John the Zombie says:

      09:36am | 28/06/11

      Jack Richards you can say this about South Africa as well. Funny how when aparthied occurs in reverse the left is silent on it. I know a few native South Africans (been OC here) who say that to live in SA you must have high walls and thier is no stoping of your car when you are driving as the threat of been car jacked is high. The police even have a rule to allow women to run red lights and not get fined as that is the danger of it. The best bit is that the South Africans dont blame themselves for the problem, they blame the international community who thought that since they had made a huge adult step they could run the country with out corruption.but guess what corrpution occured and continues.

      Over time I have also noticed that if your white and of christian/Catholic belief it is open season on critism of you and your religion but if you are to critize other religions such as Islam you are deemed a racist.

      I am not white nor am I a christian or catholic.

    • fml says:

      10:22am | 28/06/11

      Wait a minute Jack, You usually write something sympathetic and balanced?
      I mustve missed that post.

    • thatmosis says:

      08:48am | 28/06/11

      More drivel from a bleeding heart who has lost his grip on reality. Illegal immigrants should be shipped back from where they came, not in commercial planes but defence force aircraft. John Howard had the right idea and it stopped the boats and it all died down until this illegitimate government saw fit to scrap everything and allow free access and look at the shit fight we now find ourselves in. The fact that 65% of illegal immigrants that are accepted into Australia go back to where they came from for a holiday makes a lie of everything they say about the persecution they suffered. Makes you think of what else they lie about doesnt it.

    • Halitosis says:

      09:31am | 28/06/11

      “The fact that 65% of illegal immigrants that are accepted into Australia go back to where they came from”

      All illegal immigrants go back to where they came from you dill.
      Asylum seekers become refugees if found to be genuine. If they are not found to be genuine refugees, they are repatriated. You know, sent back to where they came from.

      65% - nice number, pick that one out of the air? Why not 95%?

    • The Realist says:

      08:51am | 28/06/11

      Oh, why otopen our borders now and be done with it.  The invasion has started and Julia is welcoming all comers whether they can fit into our society,  and call it multiculturism and forgets diversity comes with lots of negativity.  Most of the unauthorised arraivals are xenaphobic, racist and bigots yet that is never mentioned.  So, drum roll, Sharia Law is closer than you think.

    • The Bigamist says:

      09:38am | 28/06/11

      I know funnily named commenter
      Quick, look outside, the sky is falling.
      Oh why can’t little Johnnie put his underpants on the outside one more time and save us from the angry hordes and falling sky.

      .

    • Fish says:

      12:23pm | 28/06/11

      Pauline! I was wondering what you were up to.

    • Peter says:

      09:18am | 28/06/11

      Marvelously well written piece Calum but you are drawing far too many conclusions from something that’s the product of the SBS editing suite. Surely you don’t expect objectivity to pass unscathed through that gauntlet of anti-rascist hysteria? I’d love to know how much footage that contradicted the premise about “ordinary Australians” ended up on cutting room floor. You can bet what you saw on screen conforms to only the most grotesque caricatures of anglo-Australians, as endorsed by the inquisitorial zealots who influence so much SBS programming. Still the nightly news is thorough and Janice Petersen has exquisite clavicles.

    • fml says:

      10:25am | 28/06/11

      Its the counter weight to ACA and TT.

    • Dieter Moeckel says:

      09:26am | 28/06/11

      One of the best articles I’ve read. I just wish I could have said it as well as Logan.
      One thing missing is that the Australians Logan so eloquently describes live in almost complete isolation of the world and world affairs.
      But it’s not their fault really.
      It is exactly what the Brits had in mind when they sent the first fleet of ‘jetsam’ to this isolated outpost at the arse end of the world.
      Just consider the idiotic concept of the venerated ANZAC - no other country glorifies such great error and great defeat as the glorious Australian Anzac tradition.
      Sacrifice indeed - naive ignorance of the world’s realities - self-deluded self-destruction.

    • Paul says:

      09:49am | 28/06/11

      Dieter: seek help.

    • Ando says:

      10:18am | 28/06/11

      This blokes your target audience Logan.

    • fml says:

      10:28am | 28/06/11

      I agree with the article too, but having a go at the part of the Australian identity that is the ANZAC’s is a bit harsh.

      It was the british commanders fault anyways, we were just followings orders, nothing to be ashamed about that. Its noble.

    • Anubis says:

      12:04pm | 28/06/11

      @ Dieter you say “great error and great defeat as the glorious Australian Anzac tradition’

      Have you considered telling Rommel that the ANZACs are great error great defeat????

      As for the First Fleet ‘jetsam’ comment - maybe you should be on the Sydney City Council with Moore and her cronies - they are currently in the process of rewriting Australian history to suit their own agenda.

      And as @Paul said - seek help Dieter

    • Bobster says:

      01:19pm | 28/06/11

      @ Anubis

      Rommel was a WW2 general. The Anzac myth builds its foundation on WW1. Surely people don’t need to write in dot points before you grasp their point.

    • Anubis says:

      01:50pm | 28/06/11

      Yes Bobster the ANZAC “myth” bases itself on WW1. But it was a combined ANZAC force that trumped Rommel. For Dieter to even bring the ANZACs or the First Fleet in to this thread was incomprehensible and totally unrelated to the subject.

      The subject matter is the SBS program Go Back to Where you Came From and centers around the perceptions held about the Refugee situation in Australia.

    • Bobster says:

      02:07pm | 28/06/11

      I think you’ll find it was a combined Allied effort that trumped Rommell.

      Pretty sure Montgomery, Patton and Bradley we’re floating about North Africa as well and they weren’t sitting back thinking, “wow look at them Aussies go.”

      Kind of proves Dieter’s point about complete isolation from the real world, eh?

    • Sam says:

      04:11pm | 28/06/11

      I am always curious why people like Dieter, who so obviously feel that other/ordinary Australians are beneath them, would choose to live in Australia.  I have spent a lot (more then half) of my working life overseas and I just didn’t come across this self loathing anywhere else.

    • fml says:

      04:38pm | 28/06/11

      Sam,

      Is that a fancy way of saying “if you dont like it, get out”?

      Do you recommend the same for the people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Jordan or anywhere else who may be dissatisfied with the method of delivery of one their government policies?

    • Mayday says:

      09:33am | 28/06/11

      Calum a nice dose of guilt for breakfast.

      I would suggest you and Malcolm Fraser, the Toorak socialist, set up your own refugee camp at Nareen his property in Victoria.

      If anyone is guilty of their unjustifiable privilege its people like you and Fraser.

    • AdamC says:

      09:38am | 28/06/11

      As usual, another article with no interest in discussing this issue in any serious sense. Empty sloganeering and sneering contempt is the same rhetorical formula that failed to convince anyone on this issue ten years ago.

    • Achmed says:

      09:42am | 28/06/11

      What a great program this was….it gave people in their TV rooms a clearer view of just how lucky we white people are to live in Australia and how unfortunate many other human beings are on this planet.

      A number of the previous comments lacking and degree of compassion, but with plenty of vitriolic passion, simply demonstrate our lack of understanding and our fear of the unknown. I doubt if the majority actually saw the program in its entirety.

      SBS should be commended for showing us how refugees live and, consequently, why they seek a better life for their families. Whether or not it changes goverment policy - at least it broadens the average person’s understanding, and that can’t be a bad thiing.

    • Peter says:

      10:10am | 28/06/11

      So many people indulging their cherished delusions of moral squalor with the aid of predictable Multiculturalist propaganda. But then, that is the greatest first world privilege of them all.

    • Gav says:

      10:16am | 28/06/11

      Tears of the Sun - watch this movie. Tell the people living in those conditions that others who managed to get together cash and travel through much safer countries than their own get to take a spot ahead of them.

    • Gregg says:

      10:39am | 28/06/11

      @Achmed,
      And where have you been?
      There’s been plenty of international news coverage in Australia for decades now, including refugee and associated genocide attrocities.
      The SBS show just brushed the surface in comparison to what has been broadcast previously.

      It does not change the fact that we have always had a humanitarian policy that includes resettling and sponsoring people from refugee situations.
      Most Australians despise the current crop of boat people for the frauds they are and hope they go and wait in a refugee centre.

    • Gav says:

      09:47am | 28/06/11

      Troll. Or complete moron, take your pick

    • Harry says:

      10:27am | 28/06/11

      I go with Moron
      What was the question?

    • Gav says:

      11:36am | 28/06/11

      What is Dieter?

    • Sandi Logan DIAC says:

      10:00am | 28/06/11

      The contention that “rather than undertake the painful process of confronting injustice, we will embrace cruelty to secure privilege” ignores the successful resettlement of around 750 000 refugees in Australia since WWII. In the main, Australians have been big-hearted and have welcomed with open arms those whose struggles and beliefs have forced them to seek our protection. “Go Back” has simply helped to further personalise an issue which in recent times has been swept up with a mixture of fiction and some fact.

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      03:23pm | 28/06/11

      Sandi, do get lost.  Is it part of your job now to peddle DIAC shit in every blog.  No-one has been more intent on fiction than you.

      As for this crap about 750,000 refugees, that was well and truly shown for the lie it was and is during the series Immigration Nation.

      We simply selected workers who were white, buxom and beautiful to build Australia and if you want to think about “generous” - that is less than the number of Palestinians made refugees during the Jewish terrorist attacks and ethnic cleansing of Palestine in 1948.

      And that happened in 6 months.

      It is only about 15% of the number of Iraqis who have fled the war we started and whose victims we continue to jail and demonise and refuse protection in the first instance while we do it.

      It is about 10% of the AFghans who fled the Russian invasion, about 15% of the Afghans who fled our invasion.

      It is 75% of the Lebanese who fled Israel’s on slaught in three weeks in 2006.

      In short it is miserable and mean and racist and always has been.

      Our population (including your own migration mate) has risen by 14 million yet we still pretend that a mere 11,500 average of refugees per annum is somehow kind and generaous.
      Now go and do some real work because we the public do not pay you for this crap.

      And you forgot to mention that this form of resettlement has no legal basis, DIAC only do it so they can cherry pick the best educated and we have to be the country of last resort.

    • Tim says:

      04:41pm | 28/06/11

      Marilyn,
      how many would you define as generous then?
      What should be our intake every year?

    • Gregg says:

      04:49pm | 28/06/11

      @ Marilyn,
      Immigration, be it skilled or refugees is usually about a selection process and we will never be tasking all those that would like to come for whatever reasons or by whatever means.

      That’s just a sad fact of life and we will only ever take a very small portion of those refugees looking for resettlement, just as we have had a very small part in conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq as in a few other global conflicts.

      You really need to up your valium doses more often.
      As for racism, go and have a look at the immigration records over many decades on where all immigrants come from.

      It is no small wonder that more and more people decide on ignoring your posts.

    • Sandi Logan DIAC says:

      07:11pm | 28/06/11

      It seems Ms Shepherd that my immigration into Australia in 1968 (inter alia you say “including your own migration mate”) has caused you some concern. I am not used to the term “mate” being used with such, shall we say, passion.  That said, Australia’s annual humanitarian settlement program is now 13 750 (not sure where your “mere 11 500 average” originates), and government recently announced an increase of 1000 visas to take it to 14 750.

      One last tip: it’s = it is, and its = possession.  The old journo in me came out when I saw the misuse of “it’s” in one of your later posts.

    • Kim says:

      10:15am | 28/06/11

      Ditto Dieter on the the theme of isolation - isolation breeds ignorance, (not sure about the ANZAC reference though) though it seems we are a minority on this link at the moment.

    • Geoff - Brisbane says:

      10:24am | 28/06/11

      If the author actually had a JOB and went to WORK, he would be able to see things from the other side of the fence. See the money he earned being thrown at people who show up on the doorstep uninvited and go on about how its their right to take the money.

      But the author is just like these people, turns up on the centrelink door step and demands other people’s money, why would he view the issue any differently.

    • fml says:

      04:42pm | 28/06/11

      Question,

      Do you make deductions on your tax return? or do you only deduct what you are entitled to?

    • Brian B says:

      10:49am | 28/06/11

      I’ve read this rubbish before from authors’ of similar background.

      I respectfully suggest you concentrate on getting that job, but you may need to learn something useful in lieu of your degree.

      Try laying bricks or growing vegetables.

    • Anna C says:

      10:52am | 28/06/11

      Yes, we are lucky to be living in this country; no one is denying this. Yes, many refugees have encountered horrors that most of us cannot image. But that does not mean we should welcome all and sundry into this country and then be expected to support them all financially for an indefinate period of time. Yes, many refugees have had hard lives but so have many others. Why are we giving preferencial treatment to those who have the funds to pay people smugglers.  We should be only accept those refugees who come here by the proper channels i.e. those registered with the UN and living in refugee camps. 

      Also I want to know why the SBS program doesn’t address the following questions that many Australians like me have when it comes to boat people:
      - Why do boat people seek to come here instead of other more religious or culturally appropriate countries which are closer to them?
      - Why do they catch a plane to countries like Indoneasia or Malaysia and then destroy their documents before boarding a people smuggler’s boat to Australia?
      - Why do boat people expect us the Australian taxpayer to support them financially?
      - Why do most asylum seekers (over 80%) remain on income support payments like the dole for more than 5 years?
      - Why do many Muslim refugees come here, even though they know we are not a Muslim country, and then start making demands and denigrating our way of life?

      I await your answers with baited breath NOT.

    • fml says:

      12:25pm | 28/06/11

      “Why are we giving preferencial treatment to those who have the funds to pay people smugglers. “

      I dont think the above is the issue, I do think below is what most people have the real issue about.

      - Why do boat people seek to come here instead of other more religious or culturally appropriate countries which are closer to them?

      - Why do many Muslim refugees come here, even though they know we are not a Muslim country, and then start making demands and denigrating our way of life?

      Is it even possible to stay on the dole for 5 years? wouldnt they have to work for the dole for after six months?

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      03:49pm | 28/06/11

      Only 0.001% of the world’s refugees come here by boat so why are you whinging?  More “boat people” have gone from Libya to Italy in one month than have come here by sea since 1975 so grow up.

      What does their religion have to do with anything except that they are persecuted in some countries because they are the wrong religion - we are a secular democracy.

      And what would you have us do once “boat people” are accepted as refugees?  As they are then permanent residents of this country they are equal to you and me.

      Why shouldn’t muslim refugees come here and why do you think they are all muslims?  There are christians, buddhists and hindus in the mix.

      And they fly here as well, so what?  Muslims were on the first fleet.

      Do stop being a tedious bigot.

    • Michael says:

      10:58am | 28/06/11

      I wonder why it is that every wave of migrants to a new country insist that the next wave of migrants is such a terrible thing. 

      It seems to me that either you agree that there are fundamental human rights, which everyone needs to respect in order to have a functioning civilisation, or you fall back on the position of “stuff you Jack, I’m fine”.  Which is all well and good, provided you don’t whine when your rights get trampled on by someone bigger and uglier than you.

    • Yuri says:

      11:07am | 28/06/11

      Calum obviously didn’t read Brendan’s piece yesterday or he did and couldn’t understand it and thought Brendan was just being racist.

      However, I thought it raised a very valid suggestion - an internationally publicised blanket ban on all boat arrrivals. This will stop discourage people smuggling, true asylum seekeres won’t have to fork out $10,000+ to risk travelling on leaky boats, only to arrive with no documentation. If Australia only accepted arrivals by plane, then those people arriving here would have their documents, could be processed faster, and would have paid less to get here - true asylum seekers, not economic refugees etc.

      Although that would mean Australia would be discriminating against boat travel, i.e. transportists but that is a tag i think most people could accept.

    • Bobster says:

      12:04pm | 28/06/11

      Yeah, except it doesn’t and never has worked. Why do you think that would change now?

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      03:53pm | 28/06/11

      Yuri, that would be breaking the law.  Why are you so obsessed with people paying their own way here?  Everyone pays their own way here.

      Except 6,000 refugees who we taxpayers fork out $60,000 each to import.

      So Yuri and others if you were in Iraq and had the money to leave would you leave or stay and be blown to bits?

      Now get over this paying crap.

    • Joe says:

      11:44am | 28/06/11

      All these articles are about Australia increasing its humanitarian intake from the current 14,750. 

      Australia must not do this as Australia currently is doing more than its fair share.

      Australia must reduce its humanitarian intake to about 9,000 per year which is inline with the United States intake per person.  We have a 50 Billion Dollar budget black hole and we have record high levels of homelessness.

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      03:55pm | 28/06/11

      More than it’s fair share?  What planet are you on?

    • scumbag says:

      12:06pm | 28/06/11

      On first exposure, you’d hardly describe Raquel as having middle class society anxieties, more like bogan fear of anything outside Windsor, or her ‘boyfriend’, and possible retribution if she said too much, or had an opinion too far removed from what was ‘expected’ of her, in front of the cameras, of which she was well aware. She acquitted herself well, in spite of everything.

    • Mayday says:

      01:52pm | 28/06/11

      I agree.

      Raquel left school at 14 years of age and has never been out of the country.  I think she handled herself reasonably well considering her lack of education, travel and lack of life experience.

    • Brian Taylor says:

      12:28pm | 28/06/11

      @fml says:10:16am | 28/06/11

      I will happily donate my tax money

      don’y donate your tax money, take them into your home and save the taxpayers even more money than is already spent.

    • fml says:

      01:14pm | 28/06/11

      How is that even a reasonable response?

      Your tax money is going towards a whole bunch of things, are you taking anybody into your house?.

      Being happy that my tax money is being spent on helping anybody is perfectly reasonable.

      If you have a problem with that, then write to your local member of parliament.

    • TracyH says:

      01:11pm | 28/06/11

      “To acknowledge that our mundane, stupid lives take place amongst suffering we know about yet constantly avoid.” You have to be kidding???? We have mundane stupid lives????? You lump everyone in to one basket. How the hell would YOU know about anyone’s life except your own? HOW?

      This has got to be the best article for the potential to offend every single person of every political and cultural persuasion across the board…unbelievable…but now I’ve had time process the deliberate and hateful spite, I think this:
      Thanks for articulating so very clearly just how reality challenged you are.

    • marley says:

      04:56pm | 28/06/11

      I think he and Marilyn would make a lovely couple.  So many opinions to share about the lowlife morons surrounding them (ie us).

    • Dieter Moeckel says:

      01:25pm | 28/06/11

      Anubis ever heard of Godwin’s Law?
      Great ‘nom de plum” by the way - Anubis the Greek name for a jackal-headed god associated with mummification and the afterlife in ancient Egyptian religion
      Most apt I must say.

    • Anubis says:

      01:53pm | 28/06/11

      Godwin’s Law does not apply here Dieter. Rommel was a great General but he was not an avowed Nazi. Why you felt it was relevant to raise the ANZACs and the First Fleet forced transportees in to a discussion about an SBS program about the refugee situation is beyonfd me. Their relevance to the topic is just not there.

      BTW Dieter - do try to post your reponses in the correct thread, it helps to be able to respond to you in a timely manner.

      As for the nom-de-plume, I have been called worse.

    • Outraged says:

      02:41pm | 28/06/11

      Why do lefties always keep mentioning the Howard Government? That was over five years ago!

      What about YOUR Government in power and their treatment of refugees? Gillard and Rudd LITERALLY have blood on their hands! Why don’t you write an article condemning them?

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      03:26pm | 28/06/11

      Oh for heaven’s sake you prat, what is this article about?  As for LITERALLY having blood on their hands what the hell are you on about?

      Both major parties have blood on their hands - 20 people died in detention under Ruddock and 8 have died under Rudd/Gillard.

      That is 28 too many because they are all innocent people.

      As for blood on hands - the criminal warmonger HoWARd and co. should be in the Hague for the illegal invasion of Iraq.

    • Crackina Fatima says:

      04:43pm | 28/06/11

      How do you know they’re innocent? I wish you’d jump of a cliff as quickly as you jump to conclusions.

    • NicoleG says:

      05:55pm | 28/06/11

      @Outraged, don’t you know that everything is still John Howard’s fault? It’s the left way of thinking. When the shit hits the fan, blame Howard.

      And Marilyn, do everyone a favour. STFU!

    • Nurse David says:

      03:34pm | 28/06/11

      David Penberthy looks ethnic to me. I demand to know whether he came by boat or not. Even if he didn’t the whole thing seems pretty suss.

      I’ve seen other instances when these people have Anglicized their names to fit in.

      Does he have some sort of brown person agenda? I remember he almost seemed sympathetic when Indians were being assaulted in Melbourne. It just didn’t seem right that someone in his position would have those sympathies.

      Is there any way we can get a genealogical DNA test done on him to determine whether he is one of us or not?

      Jus’ asking.

    • David V. says:

      08:39pm | 28/06/11

      Maybe he’s Jewish? That would explain it.

    • Nurse David says:

      03:51pm | 28/06/11

      Oh, sorry. I forgot to add the “I’m not a racist but ...” part at the beginning of my last post.

      As you were.

    • Thje Realist says:

      04:21pm | 28/06/11

      Brian Taylor,  Lovely sentiments but would you really like to have a burqa clad woman and a man who follows Sharia Law stayi with you?

    • Dr. Who says:

      04:25pm | 28/06/11

      Marylin has forgotten her medication again.  I’ll read her when she writes in a more civilised and reasonable way.  Tha goes to a few others too.

    • Gomez12 says:

      04:58pm | 28/06/11

      Why do we insist on conflating the issues of Asylum seekers/refugees and Net Immigration? Refugees form a tiny part of Net migration.

      Here’s my idea, free of charge:

      Double the refugee intake and halve the immigration intake.

      Yep, simple, the population/infrastructure/integration issues will become massively more manageable, and everyone can feel good about taking in more refugees. Yay.

    • Lesley Laurel says:

      06:57pm | 28/06/11

      mental asylum seekers want to leave Australia.
      Nobody wants to get into Australia. Mental asylum seekers want to get out of Australia.The blacks want the white ant invaders to leave Australia.
      We all want to get out of Australia whatever we can. Australia is the Upper North Shore of the South Pacific, The Toorak of Asia, The gold mine of Africa ,the Buckingham palace of britain.and the Down under Of America.

    • Chuck says:

      07:26pm | 28/06/11

      Planned legal immigration any day over illegal queue jumpers unless you want Medibank and Centrelink completely choked.

    • Sylvie says:

      07:46pm | 28/06/11

      Look at the camera, Calum! 
      That can’t be your better side.

      No “mundane and stupid” lives going on here.

    • Chris says:

      08:31pm | 28/06/11

      Some people live in the crap-holes of the earth (actually, most people live in the crap-holes of the earth), and that’s a bitch, but it’s the way it has always been. Rich. Poor. Accidents of fate. Acts of God. Fertile lands and crap-holes. Born in Somalia? Tough. Born in Vaucluse? Better.
      It’s up to people in those lands to actually do something for themselves. It’s up to the governments in African countries to stop the starvation, war, corruption and incompetence, but we’re talking about African governments here, so let’s remain realistic. It’s up to governments in Islamic desert countries to do something better for their people, but we’re talking about Islamic desert governments here, so…well, you get the picture. If national sovereignty and the rule of law cannot prevail here, we may as well open the shores to everybody. By the way, author, do you live next door to an Islamic family? Ever seen one up close? No. Not in your suburb.

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      02:34pm | 29/06/11

      What is always forgotten is the law of THIS COUNTRY.  The refugee convention has been domestic law since 1992, before that it was binding humanitarian law.

      It has nothing to do with border security, or migration quotas or any of the other drivel.

      It is simply that everyone has the right to seek asylum from persecution in other countries and as Justice Merkel pointed out in the Al Masri case of 2002


      http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/FCA/2002/1009.html?query=al masri
      “60 In any event, while it is literally correct to describe the applicant as an “unlawful” entrant and an “unlawful non-citizen” that is not a complete description of his position. The nomenclature adopted under the Act provides for the description of persons as “unlawful non-citizens” because they arrived in Australia without a visa. This does not fully explain their status in Australian law as such persons are on-shore applicants for protection visas on the basis that they are refugees under the Refugees Convention.
      61 The Refugees Convention is a part of conventional international law that has been given legislative effect in Australia: see ss 36 and 65 of the Act. It has always been fundamental to the operation of the Refugees Convention that many applicants for refugee status will, of necessity, have left their countries of nationality unlawfully and therefore, of necessity, will have entered the country in which they seek asylum unlawfully. Jews seeking refuge from war-torn Europe, Tutsis seeking refuge from Rwanda, Kurds seeking refuge from Iraq, Hazaras seeking refuge from the Taliban in Afghanistan and many others, may also be called “unlawful non-citizens” in the countries in which they seek asylum. Such a description, however, conceals, rather than reveals, their lawful entitlement under conventional international law since the early 1950’s (which has been enacted into Australian law) to claim refugee status as persons who are “unlawfully” in the country in which the asylum application is made.
      62 The Refugees Convention implicitly requires that, generally, the signatory countries process applications for refugee status of on-shore applicants irrespective of the legality of their arrival, or continued presence, in that country: see Art 31. That right is not only conferred upon them under international law but is also recognised by the Act (see s 36) and the Migration Regulations 1994 (Cth) which do not require lawful arrival or presence as a criterion for a protection visa. If the position were otherwise many of the protection obligations undertaken by signatories to the Refugees Convention, including Australia, would be undermined and ultimately rendered nugatory.
      63 Notwithstanding that the applicant is an “unlawful non-citizen” under the Act who entered Australia unlawfully and has had his application for a protection visa refused, in making that application he was exercising a “right” conferred upon him under Australian law.”
      Now those four paragraphs make the law pretty clear and that was upheld by three more judges in the Full Court of the Federal court in April 2003 after Akram had been deported.

      Now no more.  Sandi Logan would do well to learn the law as would our lazy media and pollies.

    • Helen says:

      05:56pm | 29/06/11

      Calum Logan ends his piece with a very thought-provoking sentence:
      “Australia’s treatment of asylum seekers demonstrates unequivocally that rather than undertake the painful process of confronting injustice, we will embrace cruelty to secure privilege”.

      The other Logan commenting above, a Department of Immigration employee whose wages are paid by us as taxpayers, would do well to contemplate this sentence. 

      The Department prides itself in the meting out of injustice, as anyone who has any contact with refugees in detention centres knows only too well. 

      Australia is the only country to jail refugees; to imprison children; to imprison unaccompanied children (and bizarrely, make their jailer - in this case, Chris Bowen, their “legal guardian”); to make conditions of detention so deplorable that refugees will be encouraged to give up and return to face the persecution in their home country; to prohibit journalistic enquiry on a scale, as claimed by the ABC’s Leigh Sales, to rival the lack of transparency of Guantanamo Bay; to punish refugees ostensibly in order to stop a fabricated discourse of “evil people smuggling” (for the circular purpose of punishing refugees) - and I could go on.

      Sandi Logan - I do hope you take the time to consider the sins of your employer, and contemplate the dishonoured role you play as its chief Spin Doctor.

 

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