Passing the local park on one of my infrequent morning runs, I overheard a mother issuing an instruction to her child.

I'm sorry…what was that about candy? Photo: AP

“I’d like you to get off the slide now, Ben darling, because we need to get to the supermarket before we go for a play with Tom, and if we leave it too late, Isabel will miss her sleep and she’ll be grumpy all afternoon, which means we won’t be able to play with the new Lego you got for your birthday.”

I say “an instruction” but, really, it was a soliloquy. Of Shakespearean proportions. Because the only person this mum was talking to was herself. Ben, who I’m guessing was about three, heard only this: “I’d like blah, blah, blah, Ben, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Lego, blah, blah, blah.”

I know this because I’ve spent a decade negotiating, reprimanding and instructing with the verbosity of a parliamentary filibuster (the pinnacle of my parenting success was shouting at my kids not to shout at each other). No matter how convincing my arguments or witty my rhetoric, it didn’t work. Teeth weren’t brushed, shoes weren’t put on, towels were left on the floor (although that may be genetic).

Then last year I had a breakthrough. I chanced upon the smartest, most effective and under-publicised weapon in the parenting arsenal: the full stop.

I rarely read or listen to parenting experts – the notion of any parent being an expert seems oxymoronic – but I do like this chap called Nigel Latta. He swears a lot and advocates padlocking naughty kids in their rooms. Anyway, he’s a huge fan of the full stop.

Latta reckons the humble comma lies behind the conflict between kids and parents. Mums, he says, are the worst offenders, using one comma after another to explain to their kids why they shouldn’t stab their friends with sticks or why they’re not allowed on Facebook. Anything after a comma, he says, is nagging.

As a smug and frequent user of the semi-colon, I knew Latta couldn’t be referring to me; my directives might be an octave higher than necessary, but they were logical and perfectly punctuated, segueing neatly from an admonishment to an exhortation for improvement. The problem had to be the kids.

Yet my husband regularly uses full stops. “Clean your soccer boots,” he says to the eldest. And she does. “Eat with your knife and fork or you’ll be eating dinner alone in your bedroom,” he tells the youngest, who did end up in her bedroom, but only once.

So I tried it. “Empty your school bag,” I instructed, turning away so I couldn’t rant about furry lunch boxes and how lost school notes would mean missing out on the zoo excursion. Bugger me if it didn’t work.

I’ve learnt more about the power of punctuation in the past year than in 20 years working with words. Doubly effective is a “no” followed by a full stop – as in, “No, you can’t have a Kit Kat.” Rather than, “No, you can’t have a Kit Kat because it’s almost dinner and you had lollies yesterday, and it’s important we make healthy choices, so if you’d like a carrot stick…”

Full stops can also be non-verbal. In my less wordy world, a sharp frown has regained its force, and a silent point towards a homework book is far less combative than a command.

If you’re keen to give it a whirl, here’s an extra tip: full stops can be preceded by silent words. As in, “No, [you ungrateful little brat] you can’t have an iPod.” Or, like the publishing phenomenon, “Go [the f**k] to sleep.”

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    • Chris_D says:

      06:44am | 28/08/11

      I’ve got 3 children.  I taught them early that no means no, and it was not negotiable.  In a World where all the academics are sprouting “positive parenting”, a simple, straight forward and unwavering “no” can go a long way if the child understand that you actually mean it.  And ti saves myself, my children, and those around us a whole lot of heartache listening to a child whine and an adult try to explain, debate and rationalise with a tantrum throwing 2/3/4 year old.

      Whether some people like to believe it or not, children under a certain age cannot always be reasoned with, as they just don’t have the mental capacity to rationalise like adults.

    • Elphaba says:

      08:48am | 28/08/11

      Yep, that’s what we got.  Mum says her ‘no’ style of parenting was made easier by the fact that whatever it was we wanted, she and Dad couldn’t afford on a single wage, but even if I have the cash to afford it, I’ll be adopting the same style if I ever have them.

      Parents who give into pester power are weak.  Just say no!

    • marley says:

      08:50am | 28/08/11

      I think your final sentence applies to rather a lot of adults as well.

    • Fiona says:

      10:02am | 28/08/11

      Chris-d, if you knew anything at all about positive parenting (the course), you’d also know that, giving clear concise directions, not soliliquays is a cornerstone of the course. You’d also know that consistency and logical consequences are among the other cornerstones. I run the course at work and while there are aspects of it that give me the shits, I do agree with the main themes. It is also stated that kids under 2 are not suitable for this type of parenting. I do like the idea of the full stop parenting though.

    • Chris_D says:

      02:37pm | 28/08/11

      @Fiona, so because I haven’t done “the course”, I don’t know anything about positive parenting?  Seems a bit harsh.

    • HeatherG says:

      03:39pm | 28/08/11

      Exactly (I have 6—the eldest is now 21).

      I’ve never understood why people complain about “pester power”. It’s never had any power to me.

      “But muuuuum….”

      “Whine at me like that one more time and you will be facing the wall for a half hour.”

      “But—”

      *faces wall for half an hour*

      Rarely happens again.

      The caveat is not always saying “no” just for “no’s” sake, of course. Parenting is also about the yeses. smile

      Explaining is for later. Kids have to “get” that you mean what you say before they get to understand why you say what you mean.

    • Fiona says:

      10:28pm | 28/08/11

      Chris-d,  probably did come off a bit harsh, my apologies for that. I do stand by the positive parenting course’s main cornerstones. Like I said before some aspects of it give me the shits, but it always gives us running it the chance to take a look at our own parenting.

    • Lisa H. says:

      11:21pm | 28/08/11

      Children cannot be reasoned with, but they are learning a heck of a lot while you prattle on. My children have fantastic vocabs. smile

      Talking to your child is good…can keep you (the ‘active parent’) calm as well, in situations where a mean ol’ slap will only mean more noise.

      Angela’s little sermon about the mother talking with her child at the park annoyed me… we all have our good days and bad days.

      I’ll never forget the smug look on the older lady at the shops recently, when my whiny two-year-old was clamouring to be given chips… I was trying to soothe her by chatting to her.

      ‘She’s two,’ the old busy body pointed out. “she doesn’t understand what you are saying.”
      Well blow me down! thank you for pointing that out!
      Do you secretly want me to thump my child so hard her nose bleeds? Don’t think that’ll stop the noise.

    • Retired Soldier says:

      10:44am | 29/08/11

      You have to remember that the academics you mention have established a lifetime well paid job for them selves and all their followers who work in the “let the kid do what it wants” industry. These people encourage the gullible mothers of today to be the kids first best friend and then take it to the “industry” for help when they cannot control it. A smart move by whoever thought of it but a dumb decision for society.

    • Trentyn says:

      01:55pm | 29/08/11

      as my wife will attest, i dont say no. i tell my kids what to do, not what not to do.
      In my experience precedeing a sentence with don’t to an absent minded child often results in the don’t not being heard. such that:

      “Don’t pull your sisters hair”
      still contains the phrase : pull your sisters hair.

      I prefer “Leave your sisters hair alone”.

      some might call that “positive parenting”. I say it works.

    • Parrot_son says:

      09:16pm | 29/08/11

      You all seem like an intelligent bunch, has anyone got a suggestion for a 3 year old little boy who continually asks for something over and over again at home and worse in public. He has never gotten anything this way so there is no trade off. No “no’s” (with a full stop) work.  Neither of my other 3 children have this annoying habit.

    • mikeymike says:

      03:16pm | 30/08/11

      @ Parrots
      I have a three year old who has recently started whining on and on.  Don’t know how it started because like you, we never give in.
      However, we do know how to make it stop.  Batman.  His favourite toy is a Batman figure.  And it is his currency, the thing that he values most.  These days, our conversation can go something like “No.  And I mean no.  And if you whine or ask me one more time, I will confiscate him for a day.”  He asks, Batman gets put on the shelf and he moans about it, but it does stop the whine and constant asking.

    • ronny says:

      07:11am | 28/08/11

      Spot on and something I have always done with my kids. It makes my skin crawl listing to parents go on at length explaining why and reasoning with creatures who are not fully capable of reasoning. I have found that btween the ages of about 8 and 12 reason can work but as we are entering the teens I have had to go back to direct instruction, they aren’t listening anyway and if you do get verbose they switch off and give you the “I know everything” look ,so direct brief request followed by consequences is the go.

    • acotrel says:

      07:28am | 28/08/11

      Here’s a bit of ‘punctuation for you’:
      HJ Heinz is moving its manufacturing base from Girgarre in NE Victoria to New Zealand, so that it can exploiut the labour conditions there, and also use cheap Chinese vegetables such as tomatoes.  When Hawke, Keating, Hewson and Howard introduced the free market to Australia, and removed the tariffs, they well knew that Australian businesses would be exposed.  A national competition agreement was proposed but5 dropped by Howard etc. One of the main factors in our factories closing appears to be the marking of foreign goods.  Australia can compete on quality, however if Australian consumers cannot clearly identify Australian made goods in supermarkets and other retail outlets, how are they to show preference for the Australian made quality items?  The Commerce (Trade Descriptions Act) comes under the administration of Mr Brendan O’Connor , Minister for Home Affairs, through the Department of Customs and Excise.  If it is weak or poorly exercised, he is responsible.  Sophie Mirabella is the LNP shadow minister for Industry and Innovation, and I believe that Girgarre might be in her constituency ?  It is certainly within her ambit to ask a pertainent question in Parliament.  We’ve had many industries move offshore from country towns, and it has been convenient to blame union attempts to maintain wages and conditions.  This seems to be just another case of blaming the victims?  Australian companies should at least have an edge in their own home market, imposing clear commerce markings on imported goods, is not a case of creating barriers to trade.  And its something which affects every Australian manufacturer,

    • ronny says:

      10:16am | 28/08/11

      I think you are on the wrong thread…

    • Max, of Rocky says:

      02:04pm | 28/08/11

      You are right Ronny, and his punctuation and spelling is not being checked.

      Pity he had nothing to say about the most important people in Aussie,

      our children   8-)

    • Chris_D says:

      02:39pm | 28/08/11

      @ronny, or the wrong meds.  wink

    • acotrel says:

      09:30pm | 28/08/11

      Do you think the parents who worked at H J Heinz, Girgarre can still afford to give their kids sweeties?

    • Nigel says:

      11:26am | 29/08/11

      ACCY, mate you need to take your medication! You’ve been ranting badly on every thread today.

      I do get though, that Pollies are just like little kids>

    • Mayday says:

      07:45am | 28/08/11

      Too true Angela although I think the little one in the picture is also saying NO.

      As a mature age early childhood professional I can tell you its not just mums and dads but the “experts” and “academics” are still sprouting the line that the child must be reasoned with and the word no should be used sparingly.

      As a mother I know this is another silly theory that sounds wonderful but doesn’t work. 

      Reality dictates that a definite no and direct eye contact is far more effective than appeasing the child through convoluted explanations. 

      From my experience children respect the boundaries put in place and they generally thrive on consistency and watching adults model the behaviour required.

    • ros mayes says:

      08:28am | 28/08/11

      So good!!! Thank you for this common sense!!! I too squirm when I hear parents ASK their child to do something..“Billy, would you please stop kicking your sister?” NO!! That needs a firm instruction followed by a doable consequence!! And I love the body language instructions too!! I use this in my class and teach it to my students!! A flat lowering hand means ‘Sit down”!! You do not have to say it 5 times!! Good stuff!! Keep it coming!! Please!!

    • Vicki PS says:

      12:30pm | 28/08/11

      I think you have a problem!!  With your punctuation!!!  Try a simple full stop!!

    • Max, of Rocky says:

      02:07pm | 28/08/11

      Your keyboard is sticking on “!”, hope it’s not a laptop.  8-)

    • St. Michael says:

      05:18pm | 29/08/11

      THIS! IS!! SPARTA!!!

    • Joan says:

      08:50am | 28/08/11

      I read somewhere public behaviour of child reflects child behaviour at home and parental skills - so if parent hasn’t taught social skills to child at home then it is pointless starting in public space. Guess sort of like learning musical instrument- you won’t play good music on the stage until you have learned elements at home first.  As health professional I meet a broad range of parents and children.they are all different. So you may have a mother with just one child, both going bananas out of control causing chaos and yet another mother with three children under six years of age - children playing quietly with toys supplied in waiting area. The children putting toys back in box before leaving as asked by mother- no crying , no resistance- a quiet undestanding between Mum and kids.  It all starts at home with parents and how they manage children at home and the relationship they developed with their child.

    • Chris_D says:

      02:41pm | 28/08/11

      Excellent post Joan.

    • jen says:

      08:31pm | 28/08/11

      Ahhh Joan,....I used to think it all came down to the parent. Oh what a judgemental fool I was.
      It wasn’t until I had my son (now 2) that I realised that it just isn’t the case all the time. My ten year old daughter never had a tantrum and yet I cannot walk 15m at the shops without my son having one.
      Children are individuals too. Yes they need to be taught basic manners, yes a parent should try and control their child in waiting room, but by goodness if I cant control my childs volume at home Im sure as hell wont be able to infront of an audience

    • julia says:

      09:05am | 28/08/11

      I think it depends on the child. My son at 3 loved being reasoned with. If I simply asked for something to be done, he would then relentlessly question why? Even now at 15 he is exactly the same. I understand where the mum in your article is coming from - but maybe that was a little too much info.

    • Fiddler says:

      09:15am | 28/08/11

      I have to deal with all the now grown up children who were “negotiated” with by their mum’s. It is amazing to see a nineteen or twenty year old male burst in to tears simply because for the first time in their life they have been told no, especially when there is a very good reason. Telling your kids no gets them used to the fact that not everything in their life will go their way, which unless they are Paris Hilton will end up being life.

    • Mumofthree says:

      10:34am | 28/08/11

      So very true. Can totally relate to the “shouting at my kids to stop shouting at each other”. Thank you Angella. Great to finally hear some ‘comma” sense!

    • Bev says:

      12:09pm | 28/08/11

      Men and women generally bring different parenting attributes to the table. Both are important. Mothers tend to be “softer” than fathers but regardless the one thing that is absolutely necessary is that they are both singing from the same song sheet.  You should never question the other parents actions in front of the children even if you disagree.  Come to an acceptable compromise mix in private then present a common front.  Otherwise children get very astute at playing one off against the other.

    • Lisa Glyde says:

      12:26pm | 28/08/11

      Something which I have found effective is giving the child or children a 5 minute and a 1 minute warning.  This lets them know that they only have a small amount of time to play before its time to go and prepares them.  If I gave them my life story they wouldn’t respect my instructions and it would make life stressful for both of us.  Using these warnings along with clear concise instructions makes life much easier (and happier) for both of us.

    • Elvy says:

      12:28pm | 28/08/11

      I think it’s very effective on most children, but with some who are constantly questioning “why why why”, you’ll get quicker results and compliance if you’re prepared to give them an explanation.  Just don’t offer it unless they ask for it, or it’ll distract from what you’ve told them to do.

    • Echo says:

      05:46pm | 29/08/11

      That’s when ‘because I said so’ comes in to play

    • Jean says:

      01:15pm | 28/08/11

      Children, the Taliban and the Greens. No point trying to negotiate with any of ‘em.

    • Max, of Rocky says:

      02:20pm | 28/08/11

      Great article but only the beginning.

      Biggest problem we have today, with children and some adults, is lack of discipline.

      It has to be taught from day # 1.

      By the time the children go to school it is too late.

      So, parents are responsible, and must take the bull by the horns, grit their teeth, do the right thing by their children and teach them good habits and manners.

      This takes a mother and a father.  Divided they fall, united they win.

      Best of luck   8-)

    • Robert Smissen of country SA says:

      06:02pm | 28/08/11

      Rubbish! ! ! My kids were far happier when their mother left. As I worked 60+ hours a week the regulation of the house & her brothers was in the hands of my then 15yo 5’0” daughter, she ran the house on my rules & it went like clockwork, if there was any back-chat from her brothers she gave them a stare that Julie Bishop would have been proud of. 20 years on her brothers 32 & 29 still ask for her advice & she works in a kindy with the teachers asking advice on how to handle kids

    • RED says:

      02:07pm | 29/08/11

      Ahh Robert, you do realise that just means your daughter took on the role of being the mother then. Regardless of the fact they weren’t her kids the ‘mother’ of the household still existed.

    • stephen says:

      04:03pm | 28/08/11

      The All-Blacks lost Angie.
      (Best go back to commas and make eye contact with the littlins over a parfait, heh ?)

    • Mackenzie says:

      06:32pm | 28/08/11

      Teachers use the same trick. I’m a high-school teacher and we’re taught to avoid using chain commands with students.

    • stephen says:

      08:29pm | 28/08/11

      ‘Chain commands’ is another way of excusing your own authority ... as if everyone under 17 knows more than an adult, or that everyone should respect energy.

    • Celia says:

      06:45pm | 28/08/11

      Yes, rules are rules.

      I have learned not to get angry anymore, due to the soliloquy routine - blah blah blah mummy has lost her mind and is ranting again…

      Now I say to my ten year old son quietly, if I have to repeat this request you will be eating dinner at six and then quietly retreating to your bedroom. Ouch. Bedtime before your four year old sister for disrespecting your mother is a terrible dishonour.

      It has happened twice in two years.

    • Soames says:

      07:07pm | 28/08/11

      Ben ought to have been instructed properly, that is, in today’s ‘society’, one must not endanger one’s offspring, by subjecting them to unnecessary threat, after all,  he is about three, and ought to shoulder the responsibilities of adulthood, without having the irritation of going through nuisance periods, like childhood, the teenage years, to form a well rounded adult, educated, self assured, a contender for national leadership. Right?  Well one thing, the ‘(wo)Man Who Never Was’ in this case happens to be Angela’s Phantom Phantasy, but, let’s not quibble, the allegory is representative. You gals ought not be so narcissistic.  It’s not about you, it’s the kid. Please, try not to outdo each other, by posting the cutest words, for a phantom phallus prize, related to the number of responses to your piece. Think of your brat if you’ve got the attention span. Don’t have (so called, but unproved) Irish logic, and think he/she isn’t going to hate you for those lost years, where they weren’t in control of their future by reason of their size, weight, and therefore their ability to kill you, should they contemplate such a thought.  Hey, sleep tight tonight! Have a nice day.

    • Rob says:

      07:22pm | 28/08/11

      Just adopt the Gillard school of parenting - don’t have kids, lie through your teeth, and mix with crooks and conmen.

    • gra gra says:

      12:48am | 29/08/11

      What a dreadful person you are. Is your real name Abbott?

    • Kat says:

      08:03pm | 28/08/11

      Hmmm, may be effective in raising children who are compliant and unquestioning, but where is the respect in that?

    • Emma says:

      09:23pm | 28/08/11

      Surely it’s a bit of both and a balance - there are times, or there eventually comes a time, when no means no and kids need to understand and respect that from a parent, but there is also plenty of room in life for explanation and negotiation.  We’re guides and role models not just bosses.

      I guess these kinds of black and white strawmen make for easy articles to write but they seem to vastly understate the richness of human interactions.  Kids are smart and complex critters and deserve to be treated as such.

    • Lee says:

      09:41pm | 28/08/11

      here we go again: the article author and comments here assuming that just because something worked, or didn’t work, for their children it must therefore apply to every other child.

      When my son was three, he craved the ‘soliloqy’ Angela Mollard smugly refers to.  The ‘full stop’ treatment does not work on him, nor my daughter.  These are the “why?  why?” kids who will not stop unless you give them a good solid cognitive reason about the outcome you desire.

      Those of you who think “no means no” is all it takes: I challenge you to spend a day in my shoes, or that of other parents who have children on the autism spectrum.  I promise you folks, the “no means no” isn’t as simple as you’d like to think.  I don’t get in to negotiations with my children.  When there is a “no means no” situation, I explain the reason and what is expected of them.  Depending on what my kids want, they either have to work towards their desired thing (for eg chores and a good attitude for more computer time), or they have to be made aware why they can’t have something they want.  And sure, there are tears and tantrums and it is a “no means no” situation, but we do not explain a situation like that.  It’s just as bad as when my son asked someone “why is the sky blue” and the answer was “because God painted it that way”.  What a horrible, stupid response which robs the child of a learning opportunity and patronises them in the process.  We choose to give our children solid cognitive reasons to get them to understand WHY something must be a certain way.

    • Julia says:

      10:25am | 30/08/11

      And yet for my child on the Autism spectum a firm ‘No’ or ‘Stop’ followed by physically assisting him away from the situation is the way to go. AFTER he has stopped and calmed down then the explanations can happen but this has to wait until he is receptive. When he is kicking his little sister in the head it is not a good time for a lecture on neurology - or even when he is being denied a sweet I don’t explain about sugar intake. We have a little experiment later about comparitive sugar content in food but that’s after the meltdown.

    • Ben says:

      09:57pm | 28/08/11

      bravo! but be careful, before you know if you’ll be arrested for emotionally damaging your child by failing to give them a chance to understand why their wishes can’t be actualized!

      all these morons who are trying to make children’s lives more pleasant are causing the opposite effect..

    • Jane says:

      10:06pm | 28/08/11

      You hear this on the bus, in the supermarket and it is fascinating that grown women and men seem utterly reluctant to say no to these little creatures who, naturally, want everything.  Their ridiculous “reasoning” with a three year-old is even more annoying to hear than a kid whining for the kitkat.  A child also needs desperately to deal with a “no” well before he deals with people other than his parents.

    • Pat says:

      10:37pm | 28/08/11

      simple and effective really, when the thing in question is not negotiable, then do not leave room for negotiation, wheedling, naging, shouting or defiance. the longer something drags out the more negative the impact on them and you. i agree for little toddlers they need to know the hows and why’s… for an older child who has been told why 100 times before, they dont need to hear it again, they just need to comply anything else is usually an objection or wheedling to get something that has not been deserved yet. my wife has only just started to understand this after wrestling verbally with my daughter for years.. and friction is now down in the household between mum and daughter because of the reduction in heated exchanges. sure many things are up for discussion still, to be clear this household is not a police state, far from it.  but things like “clean your room” dont need any debate.

    • Coookie says:

      10:39pm | 28/08/11

      Bloody oath he’d only have heard Lego and at the risk of embarassment, these days sometimes I still operate like that.  It wasn’t easy at the time but I’m glad we learnt that no means no.  We have no real parenting experience and can only look from the outside looking in at a few others we know and it’s easy to sit back and say ‘we won’t be doing things that way’ blah blah blah but I do hope that when we get to that point that we are able to rear kids who know no means no, learn patience and have some respect for the things they should respect.

    • Kitty says:

      09:54am | 29/08/11

      Thought I’d share this theory with my ‘other half’ - his response - the full stop doesn’t just work with kids, but could improve inter-gender relationships too.  Apparently it’s not only kids who hear ‘blah blah blah’.....

    • Julia says:

      10:30am | 30/08/11

      My husbands favourite reply to me is “Let’s try that again WITH the punctuation”.

    • YMC says:

      01:33pm | 29/08/11

      Children need boundaries.  Its up to Parents to set them up, otherwise the child wouldn’t think twice about running across a road. Better to hit their bum with your hand rather than being hit by a car.

    • Julia says:

      10:35am | 30/08/11

      Have gained a lot of practice with all this my Autisticson only seem to hear about 4 words and the rest is just static. I’ve found it works with all kids as well as the tip they give in Autism parent training - after giving an instruction wait 30 secs before repeating as it takes that long to process - that’s one dogs and cats, two… It can be agonising but I feel less like a scratched record this way. (though physical removal is the best option when danger is involved).

 

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