The high political farce of the last few days is unprecedented. Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd are tearing each other to shreds and nameless Labor MPs are also leaping into the fray. It’s rapidly turned into a can’t-look-away episode of Jerry Springer; “Knifed in the back a year ago and still mad as hell”.


The invective has become a bloody spectator sport, with one Labor source declaring the backbench would rather chew their right arm off than have Kevin lead the Party again.

But the most telling comments of the debacle belong to Julia, who believes that opposition to the carbon tax will fade with time and an expensive taxpayer-funded advertising campaign. She also declared that the tax is part of her “vision” to “remake our experience of what it is to be an Australian”.

Gillard clearly underestimates the level of distrust and anger in the community about the carbon tax. She really ought to get out there and visit a pub, RSL club, building site, or just strike up a conversation with a few people outside the Canberra bubble.

She’d rapidly get the picture that this runs deeper than a “bad sell job”, that people aren’t simply going to “forgive and forget” once the tax is in place. Public discontent and distrust in this Government is entrenched and growing deeper each day.

And Gillard’s high-handed vision of “remaking our experience of being Australian” is a huge part of the problem.  This underscores the public’s suspicion that the carbon tax isn’t about the environment at all – it’s about wealth redistribution and reshaping Australia.

It’s about a far-left vision of needing to correct Australia. As if we were inherently wrong.

Gillard’s desperate desire to prove our national worth to the world by sacrificing Australian jobs and industry on the altar of a carbon tax speaks of a deep-seated insecurity that harks back to the old cultural cringe.

It’s baffling to most Australians. They don’t get the Greens’ abhorrence and shame of our wealth-creating industries. They don’t get the symbolic imperative to be the first to impose an economy-wide carbon tax.

But they do understand this is not about environmental results – that much has been admitted by chief salespeople Ross Garnaut and Tim Flannery. And that’s part of why the public is fuming. It all seems so pointless – plenty of pain for no gain.

And that’s pretty much the story of the Gillard experiment of the past year.

So the big question is, who will stand up? Who of the 72 Labor Members of the House of Representatives will make a stand for the future integrity of the Labor Party, and more importantly, the national interest?

If the Independents really believed their own rhetoric, they’d be the first to declare an election was needed. Instead they sound like they’re running an old-fashioned protection racket: “you mess with Julia, you mess with me”.

It just adds to the farce.

Labor has become a laughing stock, tied to the fringe interests of the far-left Greens, locked into policies that make no sense and achieve little, and with a totally dysfunctional leadership team addicted to spin and the media cycle.

What Labor needs is the courage to reclaim its soul. To commit to their heartland. To stand up for old Labor principles and end this sad, directionless sideshow.

All we need is one Labor MP to have the courage to put their nation and their Party’s reputation above Gillard’s survival - and cross the floor of Parliament.

So who will it be?

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    • S.L says:

      06:16am | 21/06/11

      Sophie you’re starting your election campaign a little early aren’t you? Gillard, Rudd and the Greens!
      Just as good a show as Abbott, Turnbull and Hockey…............

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      09:03am | 21/06/11

      i don’t disagree with the gist of this. 
       
      We didn’t vote for a carbon tax (in fact just the opposite, the country voted in a Government that promised NOT to introduce one); she has no mandate, it is unpopular and someone would be justified in crossing the floor. 
       
      However, you’d best remember, Sophie, that we would expect the same of *your* party colleagues if he Coalition ever pulled the same stunt, regardless of the subject. 
       
      We seem to be doing everything these days on strict party lines, regardless of whether it is good for the country or not. Perhaps the whole stinking system needs some reform.

    • S.L says:

      09:23am | 21/06/11

      I agree Tony, you make a good point.

    • acotrel says:

      09:50am | 21/06/11

      @Sophie If you were an independent, more creative, and just not a poisonous follower, Indi would be a much better place to live!

    • Rocksteady says:

      04:49pm | 21/06/11

      Tony - you voted for a price on carbon. So did over 95% of Australia in 2007, that’s much more than a “mandate” ever will be.
      The ETS (which the carbon tax will turn into) was conceived by the Liberal/National coalition and taken to 2007 election (very easily forgotten by the coalition isn’t it?), the Labor party also took an ETS to the election in 2007, and you can take a guess at what the greens wanted, that makes up nearly every voter in the country.
      The people voted, face it mate, or do you want to keep pretending that we (the masses) actually have any say on specific issues?

      On that note : http://www.senatoronline.org.au/

    • jb says:

      06:39am | 21/06/11

      I love the stand over man tactics, first Bobby Brown nose sticking up for Juliar the Mugger when someone wrote ‘Bitch’ and a placard and now Robboshot comes up with the classic stand over man threat, Mr Wimpy himself standing up for his girl.
      Labor has one choice and that is to replace her now with Stephen Smith and give him the time to bed in and win the next election for them. If you truly don’t want Abbott as PM then this change needs to happen now. Gillard had her chance and the condescending way she is blindly pushing ahead with this Carbon tax when the man who designed it himself doesn’t even believe it will make a difference is unAustralian but then again what would she know about being a true blue…

    • RyaN says:

      11:15am | 21/06/11

      @jb: finally someone from the left with some common sense. I personally would hate to see Stephen Smith put in since this would pose a fairly large challenge to the Liberal party however on the flip side at least we could get a leader who actually acts like a leader.

    • nossy says:

      12:28pm | 21/06/11

      @jb - jb old sock bookies dont pay out on horses after they have only travelled 500m of a 3200m race ! Gillard will wipe the floor with Tones come 2013 - yes jb thats two years from now ! Its -  ” All the way with Jool I A”  hahhahah

    • jb says:

      04:57pm | 21/06/11

      hehe Crusty thats funny I like that Jooliah, was that Freudian?
      You’ve been doing that a lot lately, oh and if I were to be a betting man I would suggest Abbott is the one with the stamina, he’s been burying your leaders since 2006, it’s just he forgot about the independents.
      Can’t see him making the same mistake twice, unlike your jooliah she’s the groundhog day of political screw ups, the minister for missinformation. Oh poor crusty your age is showing, no where to go, no where to run, just stuck in that same old rutt of yours. You should go back to the ol blighty old crusty because it’s un Australian to back a liar and a midnight mugger…
      Kuni has some nice fresh wasabi and toro at Ten when you are up for it, just say the word, I may even chuck it all down on my Centurion.

    • Peter says:

      06:41am | 21/06/11

      Sophie, the sad fact is that there is not one old-school Labor member in Federal Parliament. If there were, they would have stood up long ago and not allowed their Party to be dictated to by the looney Greens and a few self-serving “Independents”.
      Should some of the backbenchers magically grow a pair and cross the floor, they would incur the wrath of the Party and the gratitude of the Nation.

    • duck dog says:

      09:13am | 21/06/11

      How right you are Peter . The ALP as it should be disappeared so many years ago , it is not funny . The fools or ex-Union organisers who there now , are a clueless bunch when it comes to running Government .
      “Out the gate,brothers”,    or Heath,Finance,Treasurer Minsters, not the same thing , is it . The ‘Members’ of the Alp are simply not qualified for the job.

    • acotrel says:

      09:25am | 21/06/11

      @Peter If Tony Abbott had even the slightest negotiating ability, he’d be Prime Minister right now! He lost the election through his own incompetence.  He doesn’t deserve to be part of the great day when the LNP reclaim their birthright!

    • nihonin says:

      11:15am | 21/06/11

      When there’s nothing left to say or make a counter point to a comment all Labor and it’s rusties say is ‘but Abbott’.

    • Peter says:

      01:55pm | 21/06/11

      @acotrel
      The fact that Tony Abbott would not sell his soul to the self-serving “Independents” and the Greens shows he has political acumen and integrity. Qualities your beloved leader has repeatedly demonstrated she sadly lacks.
      By the way, no political Party or politician has a “birthright” to govern.
      As for losing the election, do you remember the reply that sycophant, Tony Windsor gave when asked why he didn’t want a fresh election? A: “Because the coalition would win.”
      In other words “bugger the voters, I want to keep my seat for this last term.”

    • James says:

      02:57pm | 21/06/11

      Peter, you are either extremely ignorant or incredibly naive. “Political integrity”? You must be having a laugh.
      If Abbott had successfully negotiated a minority government with the independents, he would be pandering to them just as much as Gillard is. It’s just a political reality, yet the majority of Australians are too unintelligent to realise this. Times change, unexpected situations pop up. Learn to deal with it.
      And what do you mean he has not “sold his soul”??? His soul goes whichever way the wind blows, he “sold” it long ago. If our media actually spent a second applying the same pressure to him as they do Gillard (Yes,I realise that the PM will always have more pressure and scrutiny), he would be exposed as the fraud he is.

      I can honestly not think of an election I have ever followed with two less inspiring candidates. Gillard and Abbott are both truly incompetent, uninspiring leaders.

    • Mitchell says:

      05:01pm | 21/06/11

      @Peter, actually Abbott did sell his soul - He was willing to spend more money winning over one independent than Labor offered to all of them combined and despite having an huge advantage in the primary vote, he still could not secure government.
      Don’t you think that says something? I mean, really, think about it.

    • Christian Real says:

      06:58am | 21/06/11

      Sophie
      Why do you and others in your party continue to support an habitual liar like Tony Abbott and have your own reputations dragged down with him when he falls, which he will because it is only a matter of time before people see through the real Tony Abbott.
      The fact that Tony Abbott is calling it ‘a carbon tax’ and running a scare campaign of false and misleading information once again shows that he is not fit to even be Leader of the once proud Liberal and National party,nor is he fit to ever become Leader of our great Country.
      On the Eve of the last Federal Election, in an interview that Julia Gillard did with “The Australian”, “Julia Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term”
      The story can be found at; http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-...
      Sophie.
      In other news media stories I have also read that Julia Gillard is calling it ‘a carbon price’.
      It is only Tony Abbott who is falsely calling it ‘a carbon tax’, so when is he ever going to be honest and truthful to the Australian people?
      In Tony Abbott’s own words, he has admitted he lies on a 7.30 report interview,so how does the Australian people know if he ever tells the Truth about anything?
      Sophie
      another story I found on the internet was “Abbott dogged by old carbon comment’
      “Tony Abbott’s past as a climate change “weather Vane’ has come back to haunt him - again.”
      “The Opposition Leader has been shown spruiking a carbon tax in an old interview that was aired on Q&A on ABC Television yesterday.”
      http://www.theage.com.au/environment/climate-change/abbott-dogged-by-old-carbon-com...

    • Davo of Thornlands says:

      07:43am | 21/06/11

      get your hand off it!

    • JIm says:

      07:48am | 21/06/11

      The quality of your spin Christian is becoming as droll and predictable as you colleague persephone!

      You can deny it’s a tax all you want…there are 15 million or so voters out there who are calling it a tax. That leftoid arrogance you display is only making it a given that Gillard will be crushed next election.

    • Plain Jane says:

      08:29am | 21/06/11

      The cunning lying vixen is playing games with Australians, her big carbon Tax/price on everything is THE greatest ripoff of hard working Australian people in history. , as Ferguson promises to ship loads of coal to to fuel China`s 300+ coal fired power stations, A carbon tax/priceslugged from Australians will not alter atmospheric CO2 , it is just another Gillard ripoff the biggest of all.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      08:53am | 21/06/11

      It *is* a tax. 
       

        ‘‘A tax or duty is a compulsory charge imposed on an individual or legal entity by a government or equivalent. ...’’

    • Christian Real says:

      09:27am | 21/06/11

      At least I am not blindsided by Tony Abbott’s lies and falses claims as some of you Liberals are.
      But I guess that following Tony Abbott makes you become ignorant and misleading as he is
      And Davo, it is you that has got your hand well and truely ‘on it’
      And Jim, I feel honoured that you have likened me to persephone.
      The ‘Tax”, as you and other liberal bloggers and Tony Abbott calls it, does not even exist as yet, and has not yet became legislation,so how can I, as you say, deny a “Tax”, that doesn’t even exist,not yet anyway.
      Your argument Jim,appears as silly as you and your colleagues, who fronts up in these blogs defending Mr “Don’t believe everything I say’ Abbott.

    • acotrel says:

      09:33am | 21/06/11

      @Christian real
      I just love the claim that’s made, that Julia Gillard won the election by telling a lie.  Regardless that she hadn’t considered the likelihood of a hung parliament, there has never been any sneakiness.  Her position on the ETRS has never changed, and we simply cannot believe that even one LNP voter would change because of her unfortunate statement on election eve.  The LNP lost the election because Tony Abbott is a HOLLOW MAN !

    • nossy says:

      09:37am | 21/06/11

      @Christian Real - Bravo Christian - well said ! Tones recorded another loss today the plebicite is dead - Fielding wont support it ! Oh how sweet it is Christian !

    • AdamC says:

      09:39am | 21/06/11

      Christian Real, have you considered maybe getting a couple more strings added to your bow? Whatever the topic, your comments are always the same!

      And, as usual, your hysterical attacks on Tony Abbott are long on vitriol but rather short on coherence.

    • Mel says:

      11:09am | 21/06/11

      Oh honestly Christian real - deny it’s a tax because it hasn’t yet been legislated? Really?  By that perverse logic I assume you weren’t up in arms about the GST until after the legislation went through - because obviously it wasn’t there yet!  Silly inane little arguments like this only highlight how absurd most of your commentary is.

    • nihonin says:

      11:19am | 21/06/11

      Let me try something here I’ve learnt from watching question time, when answering a question. But Kevin Rudd…..............................................

    • SimonTigey says:

      01:23pm | 21/06/11

      Christian Real, you really are deluded beyond help aren’t you!! It seems it’s not just Gillard and the whole Labor party that has no integrity or credibility but all of their supporters too. You all spin the same deluded, twisted thinking that seems embedded in Labor’s dna. It’s a dna of lies, mistruths, spin, fantasy and deception. How can labor honestly lie straight in bed when it knows damn well it is blatantly deceiving Australians. Is this the job of government, to lie to and deceive the public?????

    • Peter says:

      02:00pm | 21/06/11

      I have come to the conclusion that Christian Real, acotrel, nossy and Persephone are one and the same person based on the diarrhoea they constantly pour out in their posts.
      Well may you gloat, but the time is coming for bitter pill swallowing.

    • Christian Real says:

      04:49pm | 21/06/11

      Peter,
      I feel honoured that you think that Acotrel, nossy, persephone and myself are the same person, but alas you are wrong.

    • persephone says:

      09:19pm | 21/06/11

      Peter

      yep, waiting for the bitter pill of going to an election with a carbon price in place, the NBN rolling out nicely, the health reforms implemented, a new national curriculum in place, the Murray Darling agreement worked out, the boats stopped and an orderly process for accepting refugees in place, a strong and growing economy, near full employment, a sensible and well funded paid parental leave plan in place, etc. etc.

      A whole lot of things there that Howard was ‘gunna do’ one day but never got around to.

    • Peter says:

      07:17am | 22/06/11

      @ Persephone
      Welcome back.
      Thank you for listing all those items, but I believe it’s time you changed your medication. Clearly, whatever you’re on isn’t working.

    • persephone says:

      08:30am | 22/06/11

      Peter

      and yet I’m the one using facts to back up my comments and you’re the one who resorts to insults.

      Which is the more rational approach?

    • Promises! Promises! Lies and lies! says:

      04:12pm | 22/06/11

      Good spotting Christian. It makes something of a mockery of the “lie” having an article on “the eve of the election” which states Julia Gillard promises a price on carbon.
      The link you gave doesn’t connect. It’s incomplete. The link is…
      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/.../julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story- fn59niix-1225907522983
      The headline is,“Julia Gillard’s carbon price promise “. Funny that the gang at “The Australian” have forgotten all about it, too. Couldn’t be partisan could they?

    • Edward James says:

      07:00am | 21/06/11

      I would like to have you Sophie Mirabella revisit on Punch the Heiner Affair or Shreddergate as it is also known.I have been stung by the need for Peter Beattie to stick his bib into the current political fight which is tearing Labor apart. Kevin Rudd was right in the thick of the Heiner Affair during his days as the Chief of Staff for Premier Wayne Goss. http://www.heineraffair.info/site_pages/violations_of_laws.html 
      Reading the public record much of it the work product of Mr. Kevin Lindeberg, invites us to consider the personal values of MP Rudd and those in the Labor Party who have actively supported him for almost thirty years all the way to the top as Prime Minister of Australia. When considering this http://www.heineraffair.info/site_pages/key_people.html
      and other other information of value to the people sitting in the court of public opinion. We must ask why is it political party allsorts, many of whom sit in State, Territory and Federal Parliaments, fail to exercise their influence in the best interest of their constituents? I perceive the personal values of Kevin Rudd as demonstrated way back in the reign of Wayne Goss which has been followed by his continued silence on these important matters of public interest, should exclude him from representing anyone. I notice when any politician is under the pump, some spin doctor will trot out the old line, play the politics not the politician ! Well with a history of so many unresolved allagations like these behind him I feel the big problem with politics is the party politicians we give our votes to in trust, are simply unfit to represent anyone! Edward James   http://bit.ly/EJ_PNewsAds

    • Christian Real says:

      05:10pm | 21/06/11

      Edward James
      It sounds like you keep re-using the same bathwater, it is getting blacker and dirtier each time you bathe in it.
      The so called Heiner affair is not an issue,never has and never will be,but the liberals and their clone like followers kept regurgitating it, even though it has had more than enough hearings,over the past 22 years the Liberal desperado’s and their radio shock jock friends and newpaper columnists have been unable to pin the blame on Kevin Rudd,the more they try, the more they fail simply because there is nothing for Kevin Rudd or anyone else to answer for over the so called Heiner affair.
      One would feel that if Kevin Rudd or any other Labor person was guilty of withholding or destroying evidence ,then they would have been dealt with long before this (Two Decades had past)
      There are no unresolved allegations, just made up fairytales by a disgruntled employee that got the sack.

    • BobC says:

      07:29am | 21/06/11

      Great article - sums up the frustrations of so many Aussies at the moment!

    • Seano says:

      07:56am | 21/06/11

      How quickly you forget Sophie. A couple of weeks back the LNP were at each other’s throats and I doubt much of that enmity has disappeared.

    • jf says:

      09:32am | 21/06/11

      This is increasingly becoming the ALP refrain.

      “Yeah, we’re bad but so are you guys”.

      That and “I am rubber you are glue”.

      Quality stuff.

    • Seano says:

      10:03am | 21/06/11

      Actually if you stop being childish for a second you’ll see it’s a fair criticism.

      Sophie can hardly have a go at disunity in the ALP when the LNP are anything but the model of unity.

    • RyaN says:

      11:16am | 21/06/11

      @Seano: you started it!

    • jf says:

      11:25am | 21/06/11

      Again, classic ALP. Respond to valid criticisms by saying “you are”.

      As to comparing disunity in the coalition to that in the ALP, there is a vast gap between a party that has a broad range or views and ideology and welcomes debate and discussion and one that is characterised by ambition driven backstabbing, in-fighting and hate. Where is the coalition’s Kevin Rudd, their Bill Shorten, their Mark Latham.

      What is most sickening is that their disunity is causing a bad government to become worse and the people that will ultimately suffer will be the people that needed them the most and almost certainly voted for them.

      Little wonder that each successive Prime Minister in this government has said records for the low opinion in which the public hold them.

    • Seano says:

      12:30pm | 21/06/11

      @RyaN - Actually Sophie started it. Do try to keep up.

      @jf - Spare me the yawn worthy one eyed right wing rhetoric. That’s what Sophie is getting paid for. The coalition are not united behind Abbott, they are stuck with him.

    • jf says:

      12:52pm | 21/06/11

      Seano says:12:30pm | 21/06/11

      “@RyaN - Actually Sophie started it. Do try to keep up.”

      Oh, but she started it Sir.

      “@jf - Spare me the yawn worthy one eyed right wing rhetoric”

      When it comes to this government I am one-eyed. They are just so bad. So utterly awful that they have no redeeming features. That makes them quite unique in Australian governments since Federation.

      As to the “right wing rhetoric”, as you have never been able to back up your statements that I am right wing, I can only assume that it is the rhetoric that you object to.

      Whilst I can see why you would object to rhetoric when you are trying to present the ALP’s case as persuading anyone of the merit’s of this government is an impossible task, that is what this site is all about. Perhaps you shouldn’t come back for awhile as Perse has clearly decided to do. If you don’t, you may end up like nossy who is clearly buckling under the strain of trying to defend this government.

    • Seano says:

      01:13pm | 21/06/11

      @jf - I’m not interested in what you think you are. Not even slightly.

      And I’m less interested in whatever you’re ranting about because it’s certainly got little to do with what I’ve actually said as I’m not presenting any case for the ALP if you read what I actually wrote.

      I’m pointing out that Sophie having a dig at the ALP over unity while pretending that the LNP are a happy ship united behind Abbott is laugh out loud funny.

    • jf says:

      02:25pm | 21/06/11

      Seano says:01:13pm | 21/06/11

      “@jf - I’m not interested in what you think you are. Not even slightly.”

      Don’t be like that Seano. Of course you are.

    • Seano says:

      04:10pm | 21/06/11

      Ahhhhh no.

      keep failing to address the point being made.

    • RyaN says:

      04:58pm | 21/06/11

      @Seano: yah, and you took my comment at face value. Its intention was as jf’s was to point out how infantile the arguments are. Sadly you didn’t get it, its worse that I thought.

    • Seano says:

      05:54pm | 21/06/11

      @RaYN - No I got it champ. Unfortunately for someone as dim as yourself you missed the point it was Sophie who posited the first “infantile” argument.

    • persephone says:

      08:59pm | 21/06/11

      Actually, Sophie uses the “well Labor does it” defence quite often herself.

      Good to see that she knows who to look for for moral guidance.

    • RyaN says:

      01:45am | 22/06/11

      @Seano: ok Seano, I think the joke is irony is quite lost right here, I’ll just leave it at that and step away slowly.

    • Seano says:

      08:19am | 22/06/11

      @RaYn - the only irony I can see is you mistaking your moronic trolling for comedy.

    • RyaN says:

      04:55pm | 22/06/11

      @Seano: sadly my trolling isn’t the comedy Seano, but you didn’t get that either.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      08:08am | 21/06/11

      When a fabian socialist tell us they want to “remake our experience of what it is to be an Australian”, you know its going to end badly. There is nothing we need from socialists, every idea they have ever tested in the real world has failed. Countless millions have died in the hands of Marxists and no matter how they claim to now respect democracy they can’t be trusted. The lies and deceit from Julia a self-proclaimed fabian socialist is quite disturbing really.

    • BobC says:

      09:42am | 21/06/11

      It’s a fact, Sony -  it is very romantic to be a Fabian Socialist, communist or whatever, and live in a democracy. You can take advantage of all the freedoms our lifestyle offers, and still promote the pie-in-the-sky ideologies that go with these tried-and-failed political sideshows.

    • fml says:

      10:35am | 21/06/11

      Its like you think somehow over night Ms Gillard is going to turn into Josef Stalin. That she is going to overtake the country through the barrel of a gun and take away all our freedoms!

      She was voted in, and you will get a chance to vote her out soon enough. How about leaving the histrionics and name calling at the the virtual door. She isnt going to take away all your possessions and make you work on the farm.

    • Seanr says:

      08:20am | 21/06/11

      A few comments about this post:
      1.  If you’re going to go on Jerry Springer here are some suggestions to avoid any potential embarresment:
      a.    wear a good belt, bike pants under your normal pants (still wear a belt)
      b.  sports bra (if you’re a lady or that way inclined)
      c.  if you’re going to go natural at sometime plan ahead – exercise, crash diet etc
      2.  Take some boxing lessons or jujitsu (if you’re thinking of taking it to the ground) because that will give you a distinct advantage when the bell goes (literally).
      3.  Remember you may have got a free trip and your 5 minutes of stardom but everyone is laughing at you not with you…deal with it.

      At lot of the above could relate to politics in general as well.

    • TChong says:

      08:35am | 21/06/11

      Do tell Sophie, where is Abbott going to get the money he intends to give to big polluters to change their ways,?
      Your money, ? his money?, LNP members money ?
      No?
      Tax payers money?
      But Abbott wants to pretend ( all the time) that his scheme costs nothing.
      S’pose it does in a way, he proposes nothing of any substance, so , presumably , it will cost nothing for his non ideas.

    • Joel B1 says:

      09:03am | 21/06/11

      Unlike Gillard’s Magic Carbon Tax where we are all better off (somehow) and the sun shines damn near every day on massed arrays of PVs and windfarms.


      PS You do actually know that PV and windfarms have driven the prices of electricity up and will NEVER provide a useful source of power let alone a renewable source don’t you? Or are you still in denial?

    • persephone says:

      02:19pm | 21/06/11

      He’s going to take it from pot smoking uni’ failures like you Chongy smile

    • Occam's Blunt Razor says:

      04:40pm | 21/06/11

      Out of a $400 Billion dollar budget I am sure he could find $10 billion in savings elswhere.

      Cutting the Departmentof Climate Change would be a starting place.

    • Joel B1 says:

      08:46am | 21/06/11

      Even that one-timer Wilkie is sticking his moral oar in.

      He said his contract is with PM Julia Gillard. And if she goes he’ll cross the floor.

      Bizarre behaviour, surely his contract is with the government not Julia Gillard.

      How many time were we told by the rusted-on ALP cronies that “you didn’t vote for Rudd you voted for the ALP through your local member”?

      Maybe some-one needs to tell Wilkie that.

    • david says:

      12:38pm | 21/06/11

      i think the idea of being an ‘independent’ is that you can act independently of either party. This isn’t bizarre - this is how it should be. his electorate did not vote for labor.

    • Occam's Blunt Razor says:

      04:37pm | 21/06/11

      Joel B1 - Wilkie has been consistent on this point from Day 1 of his agreement.

    • nossy says:

      09:03am | 21/06/11

      i still think Sophie it should be YOU leading the Libs not old “Toxic Tony” ! I see Tonys plebicite is now dead in the water with Fielding just announcing he wont support it ! Good grief Sophie has Tony ever won anything ?????

    • The bleeding obvious says:

      10:35am | 21/06/11

      “has Tony ever won anything???????” - Nossy, only the support of the majority of the Australian people but in your mind we don’t count I guess

    • Mel says:

      11:38am | 21/06/11

      More than you Nossy, I imagine.  Hence the invective it would appear

    • Nightmare thoughts says:

      03:56pm | 22/06/11

      God help us all then. Sophie for Prime Minister? Man, watch the standards sink then. A woman (I think)  who won on the line that the people couldn’t trust their elected politicians to choose a national leader in a republic, although they already choose their Governor General! She’d be great! Not!

    • Christian Real says:

      09:29am | 21/06/11

      Nossy
      I don’t believe Tony Abbott has won anything, he couldn’t even win the last federal Election

    • Edward James says:

      09:40pm | 21/06/11

      Christian Real and nossy Is that election really over yet?

    • Christian Real says:

      03:05pm | 22/06/11

      Edward James
      Tony Abbott seems to be the only one that doesn’t seem to think that the Election is over yet

    • Go Christian says:

      04:22pm | 22/06/11

      ...Or the support of the independent elected members. And remember what he was offering them? Whatever it takes. So much for mandates and breaking election promises.
      But it’s clear he won’t stop until he brings down the system. Maybe the system will just get him first. People are beginning to wake from their coma.

    • Christian Real says:

      09:45am | 21/06/11

      Nossy
      I think if Sophie and her colleages continue to support the rants and raves of Tony Abbott, then their credibility and integrity will become as dimished as his.
      No policies,No ideas and no real way forward, except for misleading the Australian public with his continuous misleading lies and diatribe.
      Nossy,
      It just shows how easily mislead people that believe Tony Abbott’s misrepresentation and misleading lies really are.
      How can Tony Abbott oppose something that does not exist, because it has not become legislation as yet.
      “The Carbon Price” announced by Julia Gillard or the “Carbon Tax” as Tony Abbott deliberately misleads the Australian public on, has not yet became legislation,which means,at the moment it is only a “Carbon Price” or as Tony Abbott puts it “Carbon Tax” in name only.
      Tony Abbott is deliberately opposing something that does not exist as yet, he is a fake,a phoney and a hollow man that the Liberals have chosen for their Leader.

    • jf says:

      11:14am | 21/06/11

      “How can Tony Abbott oppose something that does not exist, because it has not become legislation as yet.”

      Are suggesting that legislation, no matter how bad, should always be passed and only opposed once it is legislation?

    • GB says:

      11:28am | 21/06/11

      Behold the broken record that is Christian Real. Your blatant plagiarism of ALP mainfestos has become the most boring contribution to this forum. At least the other ALP hacks round here have an original thought of their own. You should try it some time.

    • nossy says:

      02:53pm | 21/06/11

      @Christian Real - valid point Christian - “if you lie down with dogs you get fleas” the old saying goes Christian and so that is the reason why so many of the Coalition can be seen scratching themselves !  hahahaha Where would we be without this Abbott - one day the Libs might get themselves a real winner Christian and then we will take some notice - like Malcolm Turnull for instance !

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      03:22pm | 21/06/11

      Dude

      it is a tax. And she lied about it.
       
      Give it up.

    • Christian Real says:

      05:19pm | 21/06/11

      Nossy
      They have nothing to lose should they bring back Malcolm Turnbull,but they have plently to lose if they continue backing a loser like Abbott.
      So close was Abbott at winning the last Federal Election, but he ran out of puff and failed to make it across the political finish line.

    • Leopard says:

      09:16pm | 21/06/11

      Tony Abbott will be the next Prime Minister - and there’s nothing any of you desperate haters can do to stop it!  Ha ha ha ha ha.  How I look forward to your misery

    • Leopard says:

      09:27pm | 21/06/11

      Christian Real loves Julia Gillard.  This blinds him to the demonstrated fact that she is of poor intellect.  Her boyfriend is a hairdresser - sorry, but it tells its own story.  The people cannot bear to listen to her.

      Tony Abbott WILL be the next Prime Minister of Australia -  and there’s nothing you can do to stop this, Christian Real.

    • Snobheavn says:

      03:46pm | 22/06/11

      You’re kidding, aren’t you? Being a hairdresser “speaks for itself”?
      Give us a break Lady Whoever you are! This is Australia not England. Haven’t you heard? Stick your snivelling class stereotypes where they belong (and you know where that is!)

    • fml says:

      10:26am | 21/06/11

      What has this got to do with the KKK?

    • Blind Freddy says:

      11:16am | 21/06/11

      The war is over Sony! You can come out now.

    • Knemon says:

      11:28am | 21/06/11

      This waste of space from Indi is yet to write one decent article for The Punch, surely it’s time to give some other bench warmers a go. Come on Punch, you can do better than this, can’t you?

    • Lee Enfield says:

      12:42pm | 21/06/11

      The whole Australian political landscape is a farce. Neither party is interested in what is best for Australia and Australian’s. Both parties have and are selling off our resource sector to China and any other highest bidder. They then whine when the profits go off shore, so try to introduce a new tax to recoup their losses.
      Both parties have and are selling off our agricultural and farming sector to the highest foreign bidder. They then tell Australian’s the cost of food in Australia is out of their control, but will try and fix it.
      Both parties have and are allowing the selling off of our real estate to the highest foreign bidders, driving up the cost of housing, making it harder and harder for the average Australian to buy their own home.
      Both parties have and are selling off our utility sector to the highest private bidder, driving the cost of water, electricity and gas up, despite the promise Australian’s would be better off after the sales.
      The cost of petrol is substantially more expensive then it should it be. We are told our fuel is linked to the Singapore market, that oil is traded in US dollars,and despite the cost of oil being down, and our dollar being strong, we are paying just as much for fuel now as we were when oil hit record prices.
      Both parties tell us that they understand the cost of living pressures facing Australian’s, yet neither party do anything to reduce it. Now we have a Govt trying to force a tax on Carbon, which will drive up the cost of living even further, but they tell us they understand our pain with dealing with the cost of living.
      Politicians will continue to rort the Australian people and impose legislation which hurts Australian’s because politicians are insulated from the pain of their policies, legislation, taxes and actions by the trough they feed from courtesy of Australian tax payers. It is time Austrlians demand that politicians live in the same world as the rest of us, paying their own way and not freeloading off the tax payers. Maybe if this happens, we will see govt’s making sensible decisions, stop wasting our money on bungled projects and start looking after Australia and Australians.
      Australia needs a third viable party, but sadly, the only time we see bipartisan support from the LNP and ALP, is when their duoply is threatened, and they work together to crush that threat.

    • tom says:

      01:01pm | 21/06/11

      Bahahahaha!! Sophie watches Jerry Springer!!  Now that my friends is gold!

    • jf says:

      05:56pm | 21/06/11

      By your logic Tom, so must you. Otherwhise, how would you be well enough informed to find it so hilarious that someone else does?

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      01:05pm | 21/06/11

      Sad but true, until the next Elections the winners will always be Gillard, Oakeshott, Windsor and the Greens. The rest of us will be losers until the next Elections when we can exercise our democratic rights. Tony Abbott and the Coalition can try anything and everything eg plebiscite etc but until Gillard, Oakeshott, Windsor and the Greens come to their senses there will be no change for the better because what we will have from this minority govt is the worst of all wrongs.

    • Jamie the Bald says:

      01:40pm | 21/06/11

      Put Rudd back in and get back in and the threat of an Abbott govt will evaporate.  Julia has categorically failed and can not be redeemed.

    • Jamie the Bald says:

      01:40pm | 21/06/11

      Put Rudd back in and the threat of an Abbott govt will evaporate.  Julia has categorically failed and can not be redeemed.

    • Holly says:

      06:33pm | 21/06/11

      Goodness I have another friend.  Thank you Christian Real - I’ve quoted the election eve article in the Australian many times, resulting in the usual barrage of nonsense. 

      I thought the most interesting comment of the day came from Nick Zenephon who in giving in principle support for a plebiscite said that he would do it only once the legislation was drafted and if Tony’s wording was changed and the word “tax” was left out.  Hardly a ringing endorsement.

      As for the above article.  As usual Sophie has nothing of substance to say.

    • Edward James says:

      10:21pm | 21/06/11

      Oh god Holly a plebiscite is not binding on the government! Untangle your knickers, and forget about it. Learn to exercise your vote for change and then change again each time discarding sitting politicians into the street where they belong, and not onto the opposition benches fora tax payer funded rest.  Christian Real and the mate Marilyn Shepard have no real substance apart from being Labor tragic and as such cant be a real friend. The two parties not much preferred have taken turns pissing on your back and telling you it is raining Holly.  I doubt you enjoy being stoodged.  Consider where I spend some of my money working toward achieving honest representative government of the peoples.  Edward James 0243419140 http://bit.ly/EJ_PNewsAds

    • Richard says:

      11:55pm | 21/06/11

      Hi Sophie. I think Peter Brent hates my guts. At least he certainly refuses to publish any of my comments on his blog. Oh well,  guess…

      Anyway, so as not to let a good comment go to waste, I’ll repost it here for you Sophie. I ever so hope you like it, you are my favourite woman in politcs.
       
      “I am astonished by Abbott’s outstanding tactical nous and aggressive strategic ability. He is a wily old war dog, and the clueless ALP and their naive acolytes and apologists inexplicably continue underestimating him. How can they fail to see what a triumphant flankning manoeuvre Abbott has executed? It matters not that the plebiscite won’t proceed (although it would have been better if it did), because just by proposing it Abbott engineered a win-win situation for himself.

      If it went ahead, carbon pricing would have been unequivocally rejected (and you know it too mumble: even if the question was “do you support a price on carbon that only those big bad polluters have to pay not you and you’ll be hugely compensated besides and you’ll actually be better off I promise”, it would have been rejected, there can not be a skerrick of doubt about it).

      But even with it being blocked, it reinforces the critical notion that Labor isn’t listening to you (i.e. us, the people) and isn’t willing to. Just how important this theme is seems to have escaped you Peter. We live in a democracy, and governments can only really be successful to the extent that they can connect with the people. The people need to be mollycoddled. They need to be made to feel like they are important and that the government actually listens to them and cares about them. What Abbott has done is made it seem like the government does not listen or care about the people, and that’s what makes this “stunt” in these circumstances such an effective political manoeuvre.”

    • CliffG says:

      03:40pm | 22/06/11

      Sophie once stood strongly against a Republic on the line that “You can’t trust politicians”. Hmmm. She was right.
      Australians went to the 2007 poll on the issue, clearly set out, of an ETS and won an overwhelming mandate. Utterly rejecting the wish of the people, Sophie’s mob voted against it in the Senate thus denying the people their clear wish. What good a mandate then? John Howard, former member for Bennelong and Primem Minister took this country to war in Iraq specifically against the wishes of the people. Did Sophie complain? Or Phony Abbott?
      This has nothing to do with a mandate or even the carbon tax. Howard went to the polls with a carbon policy, too. Abbott didn’t say a word against it, nor did Hunt.
      This is ALL about stealing power from a legitimate government, which has the misfortune of not being that chosen by God, namely the Coaliton.
      As in the past they will chip away again and again, ducking and weaving, throwing the muck and hoping it will stick, as they flounder about out of power until the earth is restored to its proper axis and once again leans well to the right.
      You were right then Sophie as you are right now. Politicians, especially those shut out of power quite legitimately, unable to gain the support of the majority of the people, or the elected independents in a tied outcome, cannot be trusted.

 

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