In April a school group from the NSW central coast was in Paris on the way back from an emotional visit to Australian war graves on France’s Western Front.

If only you guys were old enough to vote… or be members of caucus

Maybe it was the excitement of a wonderful overseas trip, maybe it was homesickness that explains what happened in Paris. But the point is, it wasn’t unusual.

The pupils had stopped to take in Notre Dame Cathedral when they came across another tourist attraction usually not seen back home at Brisbane Water and Tuggerah Lakes.

Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd had been talking with allies about Libya and was on his way to London to NOT attend the royal wedding.

He had spent ANZAC Day at the Australian National Memorial of Villers-Bretonneux, where the pupils had seen him. When they saw him again in the streets of Paris they rushed to mob him.

The evidence is the photo above: Lots of squeals and pushing into poses, and in the middle of it all a clearly delighted Kevin Rudd.

He’ll always have Paris, but in addition he has Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Brisbane. Rudd is being mobbed wherever he is recognised by Australians. And is opinion polling results also resemble crowd scenes to Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s intimate circle.

I’ve seen him surrounded by autograph seekers in Parliament House as Prime Minister Gillard walked past without a pen being shoved in her direction.

As one awe-struck TV identity said last week: “It’s like when you see the face on a coin comes to life.”

He is a political celebrity after being tossed out of the prime ministership by his own party in his first term. That celebrity status will have its first anniversary next Friday, and we can be certain the coming week will be painful for Gillard, the ALP and Rudd.

The mobbing has helped sustain Rudd, but it hasn’t pumped up any ambitions to return the disfavour and challenge for the Prime Minister’s job. It is a long step from political celebrity to becoming national leader…again.

Rudd is not organising numbers or directly undermining Gillard or the government. He is immersing himself in his job and staying out of trouble.

The relationship between Gillard and Rudd is business-like, and they are not always comfortable in each other’s company. But there haven’t been any explosions of temper and bitterness. Not big ones, at least.

Rudd still believes he could and perhaps should regain the Labor leadership, but he is not converting that into a plan for leadership change. It’s more like he’s waiting for Caucus to undergo some sort of existential crisis which would admit him to to the top position.

Meanwhile, he is prepared to do his day job and if his colleagues came to the conclusion he was the best option, he would give the matter serious consideration. That, however, is a long way off if it occurs at all.

“You can sit back and mope about how you feel, and not get over it. Or you can get over it and get on with it,” he said on the TEN Network’s The Circle on Friday.

“I seek to do the latter, and get on with it. And I am very happy doing what I’m doing.”

Rudd has learned much from his removal as Prime Minister, mainly about the reality of political dynamics and personal relations.

“However busy you are as Prime Minister…you’ve still got to make time to be open to everybody, and to keep your lines of communication open with other members of Parliament,’’ he said.

“And to listen better. I think that’s probably something I’ve learned.’‘

There will be doubts he has learned anything. Some Queenslanders who watched Rudd swagger and abuse when he was a senior state bureaucrat remember him saying on taking the party leadership: “I’ve changed.”

They would be less likely to accept that line from him should he try it again.

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    • Erick says:

      06:09am | 20/06/11

      Is this the latest ‘Party Unity’ line they’re spinning? They must be desperate.

    • TChong says:

      07:10am | 20/06/11

      Possibly not so Erick.
      Its further evidence, if any needed, of media interests helping to promote leadership speculation for both sides.
      Just as Fairfax is in the Turnbull camp, so it appears that at least some at NewsCorp are out to back Rudd.
      Potential leadership rivals on both sides, with both the pretenders gaining the type of favorable media coveragr that their leaders cant buy.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:37am | 20/06/11

      Another pointless comment from the ALP loving TChong (wink, wink he doesn’t vote ALP though cough, cough).

      Give it up TChong, we know you are a Gilltard/ALP loving twit.

      Your favourite ALP is sinking fast and I can see why you want to distance yourself but at least man up and inspire Rudd to do the same.

      How pathetic Rudd cancels his Assasination day party because Juliar told him to do so…..........like TChong Mr Rudd needs to grow a pair and stop being pathetic smile

    • Tedd says:

      08:09am | 20/06/11

      Well, Against-the-Man, you have certainly fulfilled the prophecy of your posting-name.

      TChong might be as you asserted, but his post *about the media* was quite balanced.

      Do you have any proof Julia told Rudd to cancel his party, or even got someone to do that for her?

    • TChong says:

      08:13am | 20/06/11

      AtM aka The Slot Machine.
      Your getting obsesive and creepy, Slotty
      Keep up with your medications, and your ciggie consumption before you get worse.
      Dont forget your kleenex.

    • Mahhrat says:

      08:17am | 20/06/11

      @Erick, @ATM, if this is an ALP fluff piece, then to what end?  It’s speculating about the need not to speculate?

      Mate, I get that political apparatchiks can be occasionally dense, but I don’t think anyone is quite that stupid.  Were I the LNP, I’d be all for this sort of thing, because absolutely nobody is buying it for a minute.

      My comment is only that I think Rudd wants this governmen to fail, as opposed to him succeed.  After all, he’s doing what he wants, how he wants, and is probably doing more to further his agendas than if he was tied to the Big Chair.

      And for that, he knows that right now all he has to do is keep being the celebrity.  He’s doing that really, really well.

    • Against the Man says:

      09:38am | 20/06/11

      HaHa I love it when I’ve struck a ALP supporters nerve! TChong is never balance, he pretends to be but when you look at the spectrum of posts he makes you get the big picture. And look what I’ve done! I’ve manage to get him to reply in a sad, childish defensive way! Thanks Chongy love it when I can help you make yourself look pathetic! Chongy ol’ mate you are Mr No Credibility, I mean you brought that label upon yourself.

      And as for Juliar being the one to control Rudd’s party plans…..........I guess you ALP twits still fail to see the big picture as to why Rudd is afraid to go fully against Gilltard and the ALP…............I guess that was my fault assuming you guys had intelligence…..sigh, poor, sad TChong, ALP party pooper,................

      C’mon Chongy check with your supervisor (the ALP senior PR dude) and give me a tough reply. HaHaHaHaHaHa Mr No Credibility aka TChong too sly for his own good…........

      Oh Tedd…Bob Brown owns Juliar Gilltard who in turn owns KRudd, if you haven’t figured that out time to get with the program.

    • RyaN says:

      10:09am | 20/06/11

      @ATM: and you forgot to mention the fact that TChong is a blatant racist also.

    • killerbee says:

      10:19am | 20/06/11

      Congratulations nossy. You win the Demtel Steak Knife Award for being the first ALP supporter to post a Tony Abbott attack on an ALP posting. At 8:53 Nossy said ““Watch me pull defeat from the jaws of victory - AGAIN”  squeals “Toxic Tony” .

      Why can’t ALP supporters defend their party without simply attacking Tony Abbott?

      Maybe it’s because it’s impossible to defend the indefensible.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      10:25am | 20/06/11

      Chongy

      Equating again - Rudd - Gillard - Turnbull - Abbott! Big difference Turnbull was never Australia’s elected PM that was knifed by his supposedly loyal female Deputy who created history and became our first female PM. The Labor Party will lug this political baggage around with them until they get rid of Julia Gillard and hold another Election.

      Today the fight is between Gillard and Abbott and Rudd is helping Abbott win big big time!

    • John says:

      10:41am | 20/06/11

      AtM
      You on the other hand are very consistent in reinforcing your position as the village idiot

    • RyaN says:

      10:44am | 20/06/11

      @killerbee: nossy is secretly in love, he is in awe of the Tony and his obsession is verging on insanity.

    • NaYr says:

      10:44am | 20/06/11

      ryan
      If Tchong appears to be a racist, it’s because you are a fascist supremacist.

    • RyaN says:

      10:52am | 20/06/11

      @NaYr: incorrect, he insinuated that I was a fascist white supremacist because of where I was born and raised. Apparently I am guilty because of the colour of my skin.

    • The Village Idiot has spoken says:

      10:53am | 20/06/11

      Talk about pointless comments Attack the Man
      You are really pathetic –
      (wink, wink he doesn’t vote ALP though cough, cough).
      you are a Gilltard/ALP loving twit.
      How pathetic Rudd cancels his Assasination day party because Juliar told him to do so
      Chong Mr Rudd needs to grow a pair and stop being pathetic
      You ALP twits still fail to see the big picture as to why Rudd is afraid to go fully against Gilltard and the ALP
      Bob Brown owns Juliar Gilltard who in turn owns KRudd

      Really insightful comment
      you are the village idiot, I mean you brought that label upon yourself.

    • NaYr says:

      10:58am | 20/06/11

      ryan
      Has nothing to do with the colour of your skin.
      Has everything to do with the comments you post and the racism within them.

    • Dave says:

      11:11am | 20/06/11

      @TChong - how about you go on again about ‘NSW suprematism (sic)’, whatever the hell that means…

    • nossy says:

      12:02pm | 20/06/11

      @killerbee and RyaN - why thank you fellas - I take the platitudes I so richly deserve with good grace and humbleness !  hhaahhaha

    • RyaN says:

      12:20pm | 20/06/11

      @NaYr: do post exactly where I have EVER racially vilified ANYONE in these forums, if you cannot then I expect and apology from you for denigrating me.

    • RyaN says:

      12:23pm | 20/06/11

      @NaYr: is that you TChong, posting under a pseudonym to hide your vile racist tag?

    • Against the Man says:

      12:24pm | 20/06/11

      Great reply John looks like we can now see why the Australian Labor Party is in such a mess with supporters/employees such as yourself on board. It would really hurt me if you could come up with some credible reasons to defend TChong or the ALP. But your pathetic answer justs proves me right and that is fine by me, call me names but what ever you do don’t give me a valid reason to justify your buddy’s or the ALP’s reason for existence.

      Oh John, TChong and the rest of you minority ALP nitwits, keep up the pathetic attack and watch the majority stomp you guys flat! Can you tell me about Gilltard getting the lowest poll results ever? Sucks to be you guys!

      Oh and this take the carbon tax to the polls idea - brilliant! Now we can teach Juliar a lesson on why you shouldn’t lie! And the people who block it….....well their goose will be as good as cooked!

      Love being in the majority.

    • Letter to Kev.... says:

      01:12pm | 20/06/11

      Kevin give the Labour party this option,
      Either you are reinstated as the legitimately voted in Australian Prime Minister….... or the party as an organisation will die as with NSW, WA, VIC,QLD and soon to be TAS & SA Labour, whats it going to be?
      There is not a thing Labours shadow men can do, as we all know who they are and at the end of the day it is the decision of all Australians. Which should be obvious to them by now. It would be suicide for them either way, they back Gillard and die or back you with a slim prospect of not being executed and being brought into line.
      Two things will happen, Julia Gillard will lead Labour to its most crushing defeat in Labour history, this is a certainty. Or by reinstating yourself….....you may just get across the line, you are after all a far wiser choice than Abbott. If Turnbull was in, you wouldnt have a chance, but hes not.
      Remember Australia votes for the individual and his or hers logical policies, not the party or its factions /caucus, nor inept ministers. Australians have worked out that per you removal, this is not the case. Its evidenced in the polls and anti Labour sentiment across the country. Thats what the Labour clowns forgot when they made the decision to seat Gillard in power. They chose to forget about Australians and democratic Australia…...there whole reason for being.
      Of course if this were to take place the first thing you should do is terminate and kill off all the snide and decrepit individuals that were part of you deposing and get back to basics. Which means a complete clean out of all ministers. If you do this Australia would have you as Prime Minister tomorrow.
      But you have to make it public, not behind closed doors. Once your public, theres not a damn thing Labour stooges can do. And lets face it, if it doesnt work you’ll pick up a UN posting in the near future and maybe write Australias best selling book. Either way you come out in front being vindicated.

    • hermes says:

      02:36pm | 20/06/11

      @Letter to Kev….says: I second that. If Kevin Rudd is reinstated, the machine men will lose their front bench positions…if he is not reinstated, the ALP will lose government, crushingly. What is better, the back bench, or the opposition bench? That is the issue.

    • RyaN says:

      04:59pm | 20/06/11

      @NaYr / TChong: still nothing, apology right now if you are man enough you racist twerp!

    • NaYr says:

      12:17pm | 21/06/11

      ryan
      It’s not your fault if you’re a white supremacist.
      Blame your parents for instilling hatred in you at such a young impressionable age.
      Blame your surroundings and fear of those of different skin colour,

      Burn your white sheet and renounce racism

    • RyaN says:

      02:15pm | 21/06/11

      @NaYr /TChong: I see, so you think you can get away with being a vile racist through an infantile argument by accusing me of being like you. Nope sorry mate, still waiting for that evidence or that apology.

    • Gregg says:

      06:54am | 20/06/11

      Call it political celebrity or whatever you want, it is something Rudd created for himself even as lead up to the 2007 election, the sunrise gigs, Kevin 007 and all that many usually younger people fell for including his sorry that has proven to have been relatively empty.
      And then the 2020 just as empty, inviting Mayors to Canbera to ramp up even more spending on the plastic, the plasma handouts etc., and yep Kevin sure liked popularity but he was never 007 material and a close more critical analysis showed that even if media polls did initially not.

      ” Rudd is not organising numbers or directly undermining Gillard or the government. He is immersing himself in his job and staying out of trouble.”
      He may never openly or directly be doing the numbers for he has few friends in caucus but gallivanting around the planet to be involved in as many conferences as he can find regardless of whether there is much relevance to Australia is hardly immersing himself in the job and then ” Where’s Kev ” for debacles with East Timor, Malaysia and Indonesia is hardly doing Gillard any favours, for she by her own admission dosn’t get the international business, rather be in a schoolroom she said.
      The undermining is occurring by the lack of the two being able to work together and it also undermines this country, Gillards reliance on trhe greens and independents just cementing the problems she has of relyiance on the unreliable gallivanter seeking to brown nose himself for a UN post.
      His paranoia is only exceeded by the stupidity of not knowing how foolish he is probably thought of on the international scene.
      And his personal hatred shows through for in one interview last week he made a reference to doing whatever was needed to ensure T.Abbott was never PM and not just the lack of Tony or Mr but his whole manner oozed a hatred more so than what he likely feels for the night club boys and Juliar, it quite possible he sees Tony Abbott as the root of his downfall and yes, it took a strong person like Tony Abbott to expose the Krudd.

      ” It’s more like he’s waiting for Caucus to undergo some sort of existential crisis which would admit him to to the top position. “
      And hell will freeze over first for there’s the stubborness, pride and ambition of those who may feel they are fit to lead.

      “You can sit back and mope about how you feel, and not get over it. Or you can get over it and get on with it,” he said on the TEN Network’s The Circle on Friday.
      “I seek to do the latter, and get on with it. And I am very happy doing what I’m doing.”
      So says the Kevin of facades and charades!

      ” Rudd has learned much from his removal as Prime Minister, mainly about the reality of political dynamics and personal relations. “
      And that underscores his ineptness as surely one who aspired to a political party leadership, particularly of the labor party would have schooled themselves on the political dynamics and his claimed lack of personal relations is merely a reference to his dictatorial personality groomed as a bureaucrat, a person simply ubnfit to lead and even leaning left or right with an unbalanced mind.

    • Edward James says:

      11:54am | 20/06/11

      With all which written about Kevin Rudd, why is it these sort of very public allegations are not pursued pursued by main stream media with more diligence? Lifted from http://www.heineraffair.info/site_pages/aboutindex.html
      The ‘Heiner Affair’ - A Matter Of Professional Concern 22 June 2010
      Kevin Rudd (Prime Minister And Former Chief Of Staff To Wayne Goss)

      Quote. The manifestation of a transition-into-government plan to “clean out” certain public officials showed up when certain high ranking persons, mainly former departmental Directors-General, were shunted off to a ”gulag” at the Normanby Fiveways within a matter of days of the Goss Government winning office where they were given no work, and were eventually either terminated or employed elsewhere. The author knows that Queensland Premier the Hon. Wayne Goss’s Principal Private Secretary, Mr. Kevin Rudd, played a highly significant role in this possess of vetting the suitability of new Directors-General for the Goss administration, even as early as the Sunday after election day.

      It is open to suggest that two such people caught up in this network and sitting in the Federal Parliament should be questioned under oath in the same way I was to ascertain whether or not they held the same state of knowledge as the Hon. Anne Warner and the Hon. Pat Comben did in those critical days. They are the Member for Griffith, Mr. Kevin Rudd MP and the Member for Lilley, Mr. Wayne Swan MP.

      In short, once the Goss Cabinet knew that the solution of access to the Heiner Inquiry documents legally rested with the Department of Families, those public records should have been returned immediately to that department which would have kept the Goss Cabinet out of the conspiratorial circle. Plainly, it had been decided that Heiner would be handled centrally by the Goss Government irrespective of legal advice, and then Queensland Premier the Hon. Wayne Goss played a dominant role, or someone very close to him did – and that inevitably points to his Principal Private Secretary Mr. Kevin Rudd. end quote
      Kevin Rudd has a bad political smell about him, which also taints many others whose public office days go all the way back to the Goss government in Queensland.
      Our dysfunctional government at all three levels has a lot to do with what we are permitted to know by the very people we have given out vote to in trust. Politics and the way we are governed depends a lot on our perceptions. Every time i think of Kevin Rudd I think about how we are governed and the destruction of documents related to the rape of children in the Queensland governments care when many of those children in the photo with Kevin Rudd were not even born .  I wonder what Malcolm Farr might be able to tell readers about Kevin Rudd’s work as a Chief of Staff? And the decades of effort put in by Mr. Kevin Lindeberg. It is an unfortunate fact of life that where politics are involved the bulk of voters have a very short memory.  Edward James

    • Steve says:

      12:45pm | 20/06/11

      I am not from Qld so what you have raised today is news to me. Given that much of the success of Kevin 07 came from Qld I wonder how much of an interest it is in the state where it relates to? You need a journalist to be like a dog with a bone on this topic given that it has now become dated. I wonder what the statute of limitations is for illegally shredding public documents?

    • Edward James says:

      08:18pm | 20/06/11

      Consider Steve, the letter sent to Peter Beattie to be found here http://www.heineraffair.info/site_pages/legal_opinions.html
      Prompted by learned consideration of precedents pursuant to Section 129 of the Criminal Code of Queensland. Signed by these people of some substance in the community.

      Signatories to the letter;

      ……………………………………………
      The Hon Jack Lee AO QC – Retired Chief Judge at Common Law Supreme Court of New South Wales

      View bio

      …………………………………………..
      Dr Frank McGrath – Retired Chief Judge Compensation Court of New South Wales

      View bio

      ………………………………………….
      Alastair MacAdam, Senior Lecturer, Law Faculty, QUT Brisbane, and Barrister-at-law

      View bio

      …………………………………………………..
      The Hon R P Meagher QC - Retired Justice of the Supreme and Appeal Court of New South Wales

      View Bio

      …………………………………………………………
      The Hon Barry O’Keefe AM QC,

      Retired Justice of the Supreme Court of NSW, former ICAC Commissioner

      View bio

      …………………………………………………………
      Mr Alex Shand QC

      View bio

      ………………………………………………………….
      The Hon David K Malcolm AC CitWA, former Chief Justice of Western Australia

      View bio

      Copies of the advice were sent to the following:

      Her Excellency the Honourable Quentin Bryce AC, Governor of Queensland
      The Hon Lawrence Springborg MLA, Leader of the Queensland Opposition
      The Hon Paul de Jersey AC, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Queensland
      The President, Queensland Bar Association
      The President, Queensland Law Society

      Source the Daily Telegraph….

      Kevin Rudd was supported by the Labor Party in his rise to become Prime Minister of Australia. What concerns me is the fact that politicians and party members on both sides of government seem to be comfortable with the perceived abuse of our due process at the highest levels, identified as Shreddergate in some circles I used to trust that the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1901 and the laws which flowed from it protected us all equally. What everyone may read about the Heiner Affair and so many Telegraph reporters are familiar with must be addressed. The stench goes all the way to the Federal Parliament because political party influence reaches into all three levels of government. Politics cannot be immune from the contagiousness of corrupt conduct and abuse of power, while we the people are not willing to do our civic duty by discussing the demonstrated personal values of our politicians, in public forums such as Punch, and then exercising our influence by voting accordingly.
      Edward James

    • Against the Man says:

      07:08am | 20/06/11

      Rudd’s got to do what his got to do to regain his manhood.

      There is no party unity in Labor…................looking forward to the blood bath…......c’mon Ruddy aka pathetic UN wannabe show some pride and get Gilltard!

    • Knemon says:

      11:24am | 20/06/11

      ATM - You seem to be worried about Gillard in the same manner as ALP supporters are about Abbott? If not, then why are you so keen to see Rudd back at the helm?

    • Coop says:

      04:47pm | 20/06/11

      ATM is Nossy’s other personality

    • Against the Man says:

      05:27pm | 20/06/11

      Ok…..Rudd gets in and knifes Gilltard, she is gone and that is sweet. Once in place Rudd goes nuts with vengeance and there is an internal ALP bloodbath that leaves a clear path for the coalition to take over and form government for the next 10 years at least.

      Rudd and Gilltard are nitwits, but they can both can cancel each other out thanks to their own mental deficits!

      So I’m egging Rudd on, c’mon Mr Millionaire ex-PM, get down to business!

      Now hopefully that explains things clearly to Knemon and Coop.

    • John says:

      05:28pm | 20/06/11

      Actually Coop
      AtM is the resident village idiot on the punch.

    • Glors says:

      07:32am | 20/06/11

      Isn’t Malcolm Turnbull doing a similar thing?

      Waiting ... waiting ...

    • Dave-o says:

      07:44am | 20/06/11

      Kevin Rudd, the original Dr Death.

    • watty says:

      07:56am | 20/06/11

      .As one awe-struck TV identity said last week: “It’s like when you see the face on a coin comes to life.

      ”Sounds like a transcript the sartotrial Mr Farr on “Insiders"yesterday

      Wonder if Mr Farr was lucky enough to get an autograph?

    • pisces says:

      08:09am | 20/06/11

      QUEENSLANDER !!!

    • Tedd says:

      08:35am | 20/06/11

      That’ll goad Rudd into action now!

      He’ll be on the bench of Origin-3 for sure.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      08:19am | 20/06/11

      The talent pool on both sides are bone dry. This is the lowest point in Australian political history. The circus provided by the media has given us clowns. There is no serious political discourse in this country.

    • Tedd says:

      08:44am | 20/06/11

      The most salient recent comments about current Australian politics.

    • Woodsy says:

      10:19am | 20/06/11

      Geez, even Blind Freddy can see that….... oh. You are spot on, the days of the actual politician are long-gone, these days we merely have cardboard cut-outs, with the strings being pulled by the power-brokers in the background. Once that one gets worn down, chuck it out and bring in a new cut-out.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      08:34am | 20/06/11

      Smart criminals make sure they get rid of the body when they assassinate someone, leaving a zombie leader around is not only naive but just downright stupidity. These socialist fools have no one to blame but themselves for lying into power, backstabbing each other like the Bolsheviks and Trotskyists they are, and saying and doing anything to hang on to power.

      Pack them off to cuba where they belong!

    • Blind Freddy says:

      10:01am | 20/06/11

      I hope SBG gets his wish to live in the a one party right-wing dictatorship he longs for- but in another country.

      FFS, even Tony Abbott believes in two party politics. I mean, excuse the rest of the world for having a view.

      Do Liberals (politicians, voters and bloggers) even want this foil hat wearing lunatic unhinged support? Personally, I would find it a bit embarrassing - but it seems to go unchallenged here by Liberal supporters. Maybe they are all like SBG? (!).

    • Sony B Goode says:

      12:03pm | 20/06/11

      Clutching at straws today Blind Freddy? you can do better than that!

      The only thing unhinged here is Gillard’s anti democratic assassination of an elected PM. Her lies to get into power and her lies to stay in power.

      I mean really, how concerned is Gillard about global warming when she introduces a carbon tax one hand and on the other dramatically increases coal being sold to china?

      Bit hard to defend isn’t Blindster?

    • Meercat says:

      12:54pm | 20/06/11

      Sony, they had no choice but to leave the zombie leader in place, in case he got so embittered that he departed, thus causing them to lose their hold on government.

      But I agree with your basic premise….they are incompetent, and this instance, also incapacitated - a double whammy for us all!

    • Gordo says:

      02:39pm | 20/06/11

      Blind Freddy,
      What are you on? Critisise Abbott but vote for Gillards incompetent , inept Government. It seems you thrive by siding with losers.
      What is it with lefties and stupidity?

    • The Badger says:

      03:22pm | 20/06/11

      Gordo
      The losers are in opposition.
      What is it with conservatives and stupidity?

    • hermes says:

      08:46am | 20/06/11

      “For mine own good / All causes shall give way. I am in blood / Stepp’d in so far that, should I wade no more / Returning were as tedious as go o’er.” Methinks I see the shade of Banquo hovering…

    • hermes says:

      09:11am | 20/06/11

      While I’m about it…“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”

    • hermes says:

      09:14am | 20/06/11

      More from the Bard, “Though those that are betray’d / Do feel the treason sharply / yet the traitor / Stands in worse case of woe”, or the inimitable Byron, “There is no traitor like him whose domestic treason plants the poniard within the breast that trusted to his truth”.

    • nossy says:

      08:53am | 20/06/11

      “Watch me pull defeat from the jaws of victory - AGAIN”  squeals “Toxic Tony” as he fires up his “Claytons Election Campaign” yesterday with his “Lemon Lime and Bitter” ad which comprehensively wipes away any chance of ever obtaining any Greens votes or Greens preferences. You would think anyone trying to one day win an election would be careful to not put large voting groups offside but hey we are talking of the “Great Loser” himself here, one Tones Abbott ! Also now we have the new Katter Australian Party which wil snag a few seats so all up Tones is well on his way to losing the 2013 election - “yew bewdy” says Tones !  hahahah The more exposure that ad gets the more votes he loses so pass it round folks !
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtgv3LaL9WU

    • Michael says:

      09:33am | 20/06/11

      nossy you have proven to be less accurate in predicting the whims of the Australian people, the internal politics of the Labor party and the inner workings of the Liberal party, than anyone else i have read or listened to…EVER!

    • Peter says:

      10:21am | 20/06/11

      @ nossy
      Your myopic view of Australian politics, reveals the IQ required to be a Labor or Greens voter.
      Tony Abbott has the political acumen to never form an alliance with the Greens as this would spell his political demise.

    • bored says:

      10:31am | 20/06/11

      “...comprehensively wipes away any chance of ever obtaining any Greens votes or Greens preferences. “

      So?

    • Blind Freddy says:

      10:34am | 20/06/11

      Beware of the poster who uses nick-names, hahaha and more than one exclamation mark. Points for avoiding Caps Lock though.

    • Cheers! says:

      11:34am | 20/06/11

      Nossy,  Tony Abbott’s popularity keeps increasing.  I guess that “one trick pony” you insist on calling Mr. Abbott is more popular that the one trick phoney we are stuck with and the ALP have nobody else they can replace her with.  What a calamity!!  Labor shouldn’t count on greens support either because the Lime Ranger isn’t as popular as he thinks he is.  Mr. Brown may find he does not have the hearts and minds of the population because after all, the carbon tax is his delusion isn’t it and he wants it to hurt everyone (that is everyone but him of course). The independents aren’t going to be in the picture as current polls suggest either..  Yep may be good old Tones can win outright - lets have an election and put it to the test.  Meanwhile I’m just sitting back with the popcorn and a lemon, lime and bitters awaiting the next instalment of the soap opera - “Labor, a tale of deceit, delusion and disaster”

    • The Anti Nossy says:

      11:36am | 20/06/11

      Gillard lost her parliamentary majority in 2010. Hahahaha. That is only the second time in 110 years of federation. What a loser hahah.
      ALP can’t win with Gillard because she only has one. trick. Jules the fool can only say NO:

      No to sound economic management
      No to lower taxes
      No to border protection

      When will sweet Nossy wake up and realise that ALP can’t win under Gillard and for the sake of the nation must reinstall Rudd? Hahahah.

      Sweet boy nossie.

    • nossy says:

      11:57am | 20/06/11

      @Peter - and yet he did try to form just such an alliance Peter when he was also courting all those Independents that also avoided him - remember Bandt wouldnt eve talk to him - loves to make enimies does old Tones - way to go fella !  hahahahah

    • Steve says:

      12:53pm | 20/06/11

      Nossy. You don’t have to worry too much mate there will still be a 3 in the ALP primary vote at the next election. However I don’t think 23% is what you will be looking for. There was once a time when it was bad if your primary vote fell below 40%.

    • Peter says:

      02:16pm | 20/06/11

      @ nossy
      The fact that Tony Abbott wouldn’t sell his soul to the “Independents” and the looney Greens, shows he has political acumen and integrity, something your beloved leader lacks.
      I think that was a nervous laugh in your post and you have every right to be nervous.

    • Edward James says:

      04:25pm | 21/06/11

      nossy tell us Punchers, why you are comfortable talking up a political party which supports doing nothing about the Wayne Goss cover up of child abuse in Queensland? Which is exposed by the efforts of Kevin Lindeberg to have Shreddergate also know as the Heiner Affair properly dealt with by successive government of both political persuasions .link here http://www.heineraffair.info/site_pages/aboutindex.html
      Kevin Rudd has a long standing short fall in his personal values in common with so many politicians which our political allsorts choose to pointedly ignore.
      Edward James

    • Jim says:

      08:57am | 20/06/11

      In the words of Peter Garrett; “must have a short memory”.

      As piss-poor as Gillard is at trying to be a PM, she has only just recently slipped below the popularity the KRudd had the night before his knifing - kind of hints at how bad he was too.

      If he regained his job we’d just be swapping turkeys.

    • CJ Morgan says:

      10:14am | 20/06/11

      What Jim said.  Also, this media speculation seems entirely self-feeding. 

      If this is a puff-piece, it’s for Rudd, rather than Labor.  Unfortunately for Farr’s evident preferences, Rudd seem more popular outside the ALP than within its ranks.

    • Dr Jack says:

      09:15am | 20/06/11

      What is left to say about the biggest bozo we ever saw?

    • Peter says:

      09:15am | 20/06/11

      The back room boys who engineered the assassination twelve months ago must be feeling very proud of their choice of Prime Minister.
      The most inept Prime Minister in Australia’s history, who hasn’t the backbone to stand up to a handful of Independents and Greens misfits, is what they have forced on our nation.
      They must be overjoyed at the damage they have done to the Labor brand.
      I was no big fan of Kevin Rudd, but I predicted when he was elected in 2007 that it wouldn’t be long before Julia Gillard replaced him.
      Sadly, I was correct.

    • Govt@FauxCitizen says:

      09:37am | 20/06/11

      Sounds like a case of the regrets within the ALP and a nice fairy tale for the KRudd supporters, let see how the story line goes,,,,,KRudd was dumped beause they lost their way and installed a multiple personality Juliar and then one of her lost the way even worse when a stom of stupidity wrecks what;s left of her moral compass, and then KRudd finds himself and wants to be the savior of the damned to shine the light of righteous salvation, but as a twist to the story a bitter Petter Beatty who was facing the sordid grubby “suppressed/censored” the Merry Rose affair of blackmailing him who conveniently stood aside to clear the decks for a squeaky clean 2007 election front, now wants KRudd sacked for his personal satisfaction and then….....and then…....this would make a bizzare storyline for a play or TV show but this is now the reality show we had to have.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      11:19am | 20/06/11

      I agree with a lot of the conservative analysis of Gilard et al but fail to see that Abbott is anything but her other-half. They are as bad as each other because they are incapable of ending the circus acts and cutting through the bullshit.

      Gillard’s a collective of left-wing pragmatism designed to mollify those who don’t like her- and would never vote for her anyway. Abbott is a popularist who believes that what is good for the ‘born to rule’  Liberal Party is, ipso facto, good for the country

      They are both products of a political process corrupted by the media becoming players in the discourse rather than the medium by which the discourse is conveyed. Worse still, the media fail to understand (or at least acknowlege) that they have become a ‘third house’ of the federal parliamentary system- I suggest we call it the “Out House”.

      I just hope that people making this often valid analysis of Gillard et al continue to be so cynical when the Coalition is next in power.

      Or is it Good versus Evil?

    • Govt@FauxCitizen says:

      04:57pm | 20/06/11

      @ Blind Freddie, is your perceived circus a foley of lies and clever deception, kneejerk reractionism to polls/opinion and the complete failure to strategicaly plan a single project, stay in touch with it’s progress and keep it on track on budget and on time? IE:dreaming up their asylum seeker soloution MK I, & II, and now MK III with Malaysia. Bullshit and deception are the favourite tools of politicians and lawyers, Gillard just happens to be both of those and my bullshit meter is always off scale as soon as she opens her mouth.

    • Reggieman says:

      09:59am | 20/06/11

      It’s simply the “cult of personality”. They would do the same thing with the latest contestant ejected from Masterchef, or even the guy who yelled at his girlfriend on The Amazing Race. Anyone on TV would attract a teenager like a moth to a flame, regardless of who they are.

    • John says:

      10:08am | 20/06/11

      One would think any western leaders who supports the bombing and killing of Libyan government troops, would be voted out of any western democracy, you would think human right’s courts would be writing up war crimes with sarkozy’s name, cameron’s and obama.‘s You would think the western media would be out raged that a war like Iraq, Afghanistan has started again! It’s seems like west has short memory and is corrupt morally, politically and media wise. So i guess this push’s more creditably that an elite have sanctioned this war. The media ran a black out in the first days of war, then ran war propaganda and any political descent against war is not even being heard! I guess the elite learned their lesson with Iraq, and Afghanistan, this time told the media barons to keep it silent and controlled.

    • GB says:

      10:15am | 20/06/11

      I don’t get it. I find the man even more loathesome than Gillard. Forget policy failure after policy failure, he is just a repulsive egomaniac whose only motivation is to feather his own nest.

    • Pete says:

      10:23am | 20/06/11

      E’s poison that Rudd. Beattie’s right: he should get out of politics, because the Punch & Judy show he runs with Gillard is ugly and distracting. So is the monomaniac’s relentless self-aggrandizing as he swaggers across the world ‘pronouncing’ in his best insipid UN accent. Aaaagggh!

    • neil says:

      11:18am | 20/06/11

      Yes Rudd should get out of politics, he is just using his position as Foriegn Minister to bolster his hopes of a plum UN job, if he gets an offer he will be gone. The problem for Gillard is she has no control over him, if she sacks him from cabinet he will resign from parliment and the Nationals will win a by-election in his seat, Abbott can then force a full election which will be a landslide to him.

      Gillard has to pander to Rudd just as much as she does to the Greens and independants or have Labor wiped from the political landscape for another 3 or 4 terms.

    • Anubis says:

      11:38am | 20/06/11

      K.Rudd - the $2 billion dollar man. An increase of $2 billion dollars in “overseas aid” to bolster his chances of a seat at the trough that is the UN.

      Ruddy is Australian politics vaersion of South Park’s Kenny (although he bears a striking resemblance to Cartman). Isn’t it about time we heard the phrase “Oh my God they’ve killed Kenny (Kevvy) - you bastards” and reclaimed the $2 billion dollars per year to spend on deserving causes here in Australia.

    • Gordicans says:

      11:44am | 20/06/11

      On Insiders last weekend, Malcolm Farr explored Lindsay Tanner’s theory that media in this country treat politics as a sporting contest and are incapable of examining policy are totally shallow. 

      The topic was Rudd undermining the prime minister.  Malcolm said it was rubbish, and Rudd was doing nothing of the sort and the response from the Barrie Cassidy, Ackerman and Fran Kelly was amazing.  Farr had uttered sacrolege.  What was even more interesting was that under questioning from Farr, the host and the other panel guests were incapable of providing a shred of evidence that Rudd is undermining Gillard.  It’s a total media beat up.  Front page headlines of yesterdays Sun Herald “SACK RUDD, PM TOLD; MP backlash at bully”.  Lindsay Tanner was correct.  We have an awful media in this country.

    • bored says:

      11:47am | 20/06/11

      “Rudd is not organising numbers or directly undermining Gillard or the government. He is immersing himself in his job and staying out of trouble.”

      The first part of the analysis is correct but the rest is ridiculous in the extreme and just plain wrong. Two major foreign policy issues are suffocating the government and the FM is AWOL on both. If by immersing you mean not helping and conducting losing wars in Libya while ignoring Syria and by staying out trouble you mean avoiding anything to do with the Malaysian fiasco, the PNG fiasco or the cattle disaster then I apologise. Actually I have no need to apologise because you don’t. Rudd is destabilising the government deliberately plain and simple and you Mal are just too silly to realise it. He is a megalomaniac and quite possibly a little psychotic. You are just an apologist for his behaviour and Gillards weakness as a leader in a position her and Rudd bought on themselves. Your analysis is terrible overall.

    • hermes says:

      12:37pm | 20/06/11

      Surely it is obvious why the extremely intelligent Kevin Rudd is distancing himself from Julia Gillard’s fiascos, aka Malaysia, Indonesia etc. Nothing to do with megalomania, just a desire not to be tarred with the same brush as that silly woman.

    • Gordicans says:

      01:20pm | 20/06/11

      Total nonsence bored.  What do you expect the FM to do about the two policy issues you mention?  What was his involvement in the planning and initiating those policies?  Was he invited into the tent at any stage? How do you know he isn’t doing what he is asked to do through his contacts and back door channels? Just because he is FM doesn’t mean he has some sort of magic wand.  Provide one skerrick of proof that “Rudd is destabilising the government”.  You shouldn’t believe everything you read in the Murdoch press.  Actually, you shouldn’t believe anything in the Murdoch press.

    • bored says:

      01:49pm | 20/06/11

      Sorry Gordicans you are totally correct of course. The FM should in no way be involved with negotiations with foreign governments. How silly of me. I take everything back except all of it. And proof he is destabilising the government? What like? Him being out of the country except for the anniversary of his stab in the back by Gillard. The helpful press he does everywhere? The way he contradicted the PM over Libya? If all his “back door”, thanks for the mental image by the way” help has led the Malaysian deal to be delayed by 6 weeks then it is help you don’t want anyway. 6 weeks later on announced policy and no signature, 27% primary vote, Abbott and Gillard neck and neck as preferred PM, PNG tells us to stuff it, Eats Timor laughs at us, no Carbon Tax deal, can’t send cattle to Indinesia. Yes I can see the stability.

    • Gordicans says:

      09:43pm | 20/06/11

      Bored, you are dellusional.  You cite Rudd being in the country as proof that he is trying to destabilise Gillard?  That’s not proof.  It’s sheer fantasy.

    • m'ennuie says:

      12:51am | 21/06/11

      bored, mate, you’ve gotten muddled. We have no forces seeing combat in Libya, and the PNG and Malaysian deals are the Immigration Minister’s jurisdiction.

      And I’m not quite sure what you expect Kev to do about the cattle issue beyond what he and Craig Emerson have already done… Would any solution satisfy you?

    • Michael says:

      12:26pm | 20/06/11

      Ha! where’s persephone? this should have her in a lather.

    • Anubis says:

      01:29pm | 20/06/11

      persephony is probably still waiting for her Labor PR masters to deliver this weeks script

    • Max Redlands says:

      03:27pm | 20/06/11

      “a lather”?

      I would say more like a severe bout of apoplexy.

    • Daniel says:

      12:42pm | 20/06/11

      Rudd is just another strange political beings. He was not from the odd ALP or Union mould. His biggest issue was ignoring the Greens.

    • antigreen says:

      12:35pm | 21/06/11

      daniel
      that is the one thing you could really admire rudd for
      ignoring the green communists.

    • Steve says:

      01:06pm | 20/06/11

      Thanks for the article Nossy you sweet boy! Did you read it? He is trying to slow down carbon pricing and unwind methane pricing. He is in synch with Abbott. Hahahaha. When are you going to realise that one trick Julie can’t win the next election and you need to get behind your spiritual leader in Krudd.

    • Loves the Rudd says:

      03:45pm | 20/06/11

      Go Ruddy! I voted for you and was sad to see you go! You may be a crazy mofo who has now become some kind of weird uber-celeb - but in my mind, you’re a bit of all right!!

    • The Badger says:

      04:20pm | 20/06/11

      “The Liberal Party organisation has, after many good years of Howard government, become an election machine that in between elections serves the leader. If there is a file labelled ‘‘Member services’’ it isn’t a thick one.”
      Amanda Vanstone
      Calling for renewal within the Liberal Party.
      Of course she is as irrelevant as John Hewson, Malcolm Fraser are and Tony Abbott is about to be.

    • The Liberal Loafer says:

      04:55pm | 20/06/11

      Rudd And Gillard will defeat Abbott and Turnbull any time.
      Only the media makes the Coalition an electoral force in Australia. Without the media, the Liberal Party Propaganda machine, the media’s creation the Liberal Party would have died years ago.
      In NSW,  The Daily telegraph defeated Labor to win the N.S.W.  State Election.The Liberals said nothing, did nothing,promised nothing, thought nothing and just waited for the daily telegraph to deliver The Coalition Parties the N. S. W State Government.
      Now the media wants to hand the Australian federal government to the Liberal National Party. The media does all the Liberals work ! Liberals just sleep , party & loaf . The Liberals just wait for the the media to deliver them government.

    • James Darby says:

      04:58pm | 20/06/11

      I wonder is Chongy friends with Peter Van Onselen?

    • thug wannabe says:

      05:29pm | 20/06/11

      I love it that the internet can turn neanderthals into faceless thugs.

    • Daffy says:

      06:24pm | 20/06/11

      When Labor dumped Rudd it was out of the frying pan and into the fire, they are both incompetent, but at least Rudd was likeable, which is more than I can say of the Witch.

    • JP Morgan says:

      06:36pm | 20/06/11

      What a fantastic passionate forum. One things for sure, the demise of integrity and morals in Australian Politics has certainly livened up debate and opinion. Hasnt been like this for a while…...must be nearly time for a revolution???

    • Max Redlands says:

      09:43pm | 20/06/11

      Be careful calling for revolution .

      You could be the first one up against the wall.

      I said that.

    • Tator says:

      11:20pm | 20/06/11

      Actually it was the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation who were “a bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came”

      don’t forget your towel

    • Sandy says:

      09:47pm | 20/06/11

      I applaud Malcolm Farr; I think he is trying to bring a more balanced view back to his journalism. I too saw him on Insiders on Sunday and appreciated his request for facts when the panel started on their set piece of attacking Rudd. 

      I feel for Kevin Rudd, that he is still standing with constant humiliation heaped upon him from within his own party, the media and the armchair experts is a testament to his inner strength.
      He is not being seen as human being,  he is just a story, a sensational headline, no matter that there is no truth it.
      I am not sure what will stop it, and I hope that it will stop soon because this could cause real and lasting damage to him, his whole family and to all those budding politicians out there who want to make a difference but look at Kevin Rudd’s treatment and say it’s just not worth it.

      And God know Australia needs a new crop of budding politicians willing to give it a go. But why would you!

    • Harquebus says:

      11:09am | 21/06/11

      Beautiful friendship, horrible censorship. You’re another idiot Malcolm. Peak oil mate, peak oil.

    • Coral says:

      03:07pm | 21/06/11

      Daaaayum i look good in that photo. God bless our ability to find KRudd

    • jesss says:

      09:59pm | 21/06/11

      yeaaah coral!  KRudd is so nice, i love ruddy, we found him good

    • Gillion says:

      05:03pm | 26/06/11

      are you getting better now? Pei Pa Koa (http://www.geocities.jp/ninjiom_hong_kong/index_e.htm ) is one of the few Chinese untreated cough remedies that have been scientifically studied. it’s something like herb plus honey, and it’s sweet, thick and black in color. If you have a cough, look for it! It used to be one of my favourite untreated cough remedies.
      if your cough persists, seek professional help such as traditional Chinese medicine physicians – I have had very excellent experiences with them.

 

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