There are many days when I wish I had been born a corporate psychopath. Watching Marissa Mayer’s first interview since giving birth to her son Macallister two months ago just reaffirmed those feelings.

Oops, I forgot to bring my baby to the lecture about how perfect I am

Mayer is the former Google executive who controversially became Yahoo CEO while six months pregnant and returned to work after two weeks maternity leave.

“The baby’s been easy - way easier than everyone made it out to be,” Mayer told the mainly female audience at Fortune’s Most Powerful Women event this week.

“I think I’ve been really lucky that way but I had a very easy, healthy pregnancy. He’s been easy. So there have been two really terrific surprises: the kid has been easier and the job has been fun!” When I read those words I felt admiration and horror in equal measure.

Admiration because, well, how can anyone not be in awe of this woman? Yes she’s probably got so much hired help that someone picks out her shoes for the day but you’ve got to be impressed by the multiple use of the word “easy”, especially in the same sentence as the word “baby”.

The horror came with the realisation that an impossible benchmark had been set - yet again - for the rest of us working mothers.

When I got pregnant at 39, I planned to take six months off, max. I would be a superwoman who would juggle motherhood and work. I had no doubt it would be hard but I also had no doubt that I could do it. I was wrong.

From the moment my son was delivered by emergency caesarean at 35 weeks following a botched epidural, things went from bad to worse.

He weighed just 1.8 kilograms and spent the first few days of his life in an incubator, his neighbours a jaundiced crack baby and a sickly premmie born at 26 weeks.

My baby grew stronger by the day but I went downhill. I went to a couple of mothers groups but couldn’t connect with the women. I retreated from friends and family. Six months came and went. I told work that I’d probably need the full year off, after all.

I didn’t know I had post-natal depression until it had engulfed me completely. I developed a short-lived but spectacular drinking problem which ended in a stint in rehab.

Even if I’d been able to afford the round-the-clock nannies, cooks, chauffeurs and personal assistants that Mayer obviously employs to be able to do what she does, I don’t think things would have unfolded any differently.

When you have a baby, you grow new nerve endings. You don’t realise it’s possible to love another human being so much until you produce one. You would throw yourself in front of a bus to save your child. You can’t read stories about child abuse or kids with leukemia because they make you cry. You feel more and you fear more.

It makes me wonder what Mayer is feeling. Is she running on adrenalin? Ambition? Anti-depressants?

Mayer says the secret to her success is to “ruthlessly prioritise”.

“For me it’s God, family and Yahoo – in that order,” she told her audience.

Mayer has created the illusion of juggling work and motherhood when she is doing anything but. She’s not raising that child. How could she? From where I’m standing, her priorities are more like,  “Yahoo, Yahoo, Yahoo.”

And she needs to come clean about it before another generation of women beat themselves up trying to achieve the unachievable.

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    • Pandabater says:

      01:46pm | 30/11/12

      Don’t worry Marnie, she’s probably lying.

    • rach says:

      02:08pm | 30/11/12

      Agreed. She’s a CEO, it would be bad for business if she hinted any weakness.

    • AndreaN says:

      02:15pm | 30/11/12

      Probably?  The jury’s back, the verdict’s in - liar, liar, pants on fire.  2 weeks back at work as a CEO?  Who’s getting up for the 2am feeds that go on until 4am when the next feed is due to start?  Lying ..... pffft!

    • H says:

      02:15pm | 30/11/12

      .... And her supposed first priority isn’t going to like that.. wink  good on her for getting this far.. But give it time before saying it’s easy.. You’ve set yourself up big time!

    • Jen says:

      02:03pm | 30/11/12

      She is coining it is a CEO, I’m sure she can afford to prioritise ten nannies for her family, and spend 10 minutes a day “quality time” with the little one.

    • Sam says:

      02:06pm | 30/11/12

      “For me it’s God, family and Yahoo – in that order”

      Not the first person to not realise they are lying to themself. May a well give the kid up for adoption for the amount of time she will be able to give it.

    • Over it!!! says:

      02:07pm | 30/11/12

      Oh for gods sakes!! I am sick of all these women that bitch and moan because some famous and/or successful woman does not mirror their lives and approach/reactions to motherhood. Get over yourself, she was asked a question and answered it. Your happiness should not depend on whether her answer was truthful or not. And another thing, why should she give a toss about your feelings when there are millions upon millions of women who would do anything to be in your position whilst you complain about someone you don’t know and will probably never meet.

      After going back to Africa last year, I do not want to be part of the Western sisterhood, as all you people do is look for anything and everything that is “detrimental” to women with what I belive is a means to gaining sympathy to validate your life and decisions. Come back to me when you have REAL problems that are not imagined or created by you!!!

      I swear Gen X women are the most annoying of the bunch. People bitch and moan about us in the Gen Y cohort, but we are not the ones who always start conversations with how intelligent and educated we are before crapping on about how a movement (feminism) and the whole of society has forced us, the supposedly “intelligent and educated” to get in over our heads. If you are so god damn smart, own your decions whethe they are successful or failures and then adjust your needs and wants to reflect what you are capable of. Don’t bitch about some successful woman (making snide remarks about her “help”), as it makes you look anything but “intelligent and educated”.

    • NotSoSimple says:

      04:52pm | 30/11/12

      Hear hear, well said! Love it!  “if you are so goddamn smart, own your decisions.” Perfect.

      Unfortunately I just see this article as another red rag to all the MRE nut jobs out there to go on another anti-feminist rant so the Punch can count the clicks.. Can’t wait.


      Yawn.

    • Australia Has It So Good says:

      06:45pm | 30/11/12

      Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!

      The Australian Sisterhood and Mummy Martyr Mafia is something I try to stay clear away from.

      I too have had an absolute gut-ful of the continual whining and “mummy is a martyr” mentality in this country. I spent 9 months in Cambodia, close to 2 years in India and Nepal, and a year in Peru working as a nurse in rural areas.

      It seem that back here in Australia, life is so damn difficult in a country where clean (hot or cold) drinking water straight from the tap, girls have the opportunity to get an equal education to boys, we have microwaves, refridgeration, electric ovens, television and dvds (for babysitting), a choice of nutricious foods, a choice of medical professional and a system to help the greater community such as Medicare.

      It’s been an absolute struggle to re-adjust upon my return to my home country. It’s very, very difficult to not judge the women (and men - but mainly women) who I over-hear at the school bitching about how they should be receiving more hand-outs, the government must contribute to little Bratford’s this or that. I"d love these people to spend six months with me working in rural India, where in some cases the nearest doctor is more than 3 hours away, and nobody has a car so you have to rely on public transportation. I’d love to see how they’d cope with walking forty minutes, whilst pregnant, to retrieve clean water for the day - then carry it back to the home.

      Whilst abroad, I kept tabs on news of my home country, and from fellow ex-pats, had heard numerous stories about the growing ‘entitlement mentality’ in what was once the greatest nation on earth - a nation where people would count their blessings and be grateful for the abundance of choice - instead of the bleating and mooing about ‘deserving this payment, entitled to that payment, planning to birth by the end of such and such so not to miss the government handout”.

      It’s hard to not preach…yes, I know I’m doing it now. But after four + years away, the only response I’ve had to any of the things I’ve mentioned is “If you don’t like it then LEAVE” or “go back to where you came from!!” (um, I’m from here….my family has been here since the First ‘Effing Fleet!), but nobody - NOBODY has addressed my concerns with an answer except to become very defensive. Much like I am now - but I know where such frustration comes from, it comes from seeing how good we have it, even those not earning much, and even the majority of those not working are able to have some assistance. I’ve seen kids as young as 8 and 9 being sold by their families into sex-rings because the rest of their families have to eat somehow.  I worked in a Punjab village where daughters of farmers regularly hanged themselves with their dupta scarves and their parents could not afford doweries. I personally had to try to revive a 46 year old labourer who drank battery acid because he could not afford the what equated to $75USA) repayment to the bank for labouring tools. $75 people…that’s an early dinner and a movie.

      I’ve also had to try to help heal the mess that was made of a ten year old who suffered full female genital mutilation. She didn’t make it. What was done to her is too awful to repeat here.

      I know raising kids is difficult - I’ve been there and done that. But what I’m NOT understanding is how it’s become almost IMPOSSIBLE to do it without handout or complaint. Unless you’re caring for an ill, or disabled child, or you’re ill and disabled yourself, then parenting is NOT anything new. It’s been done in more difficult circumstances, in more difficult times, for tens of thousands of years. I think back to the women of WW2 who were raising kids as single mothers whilst their husband were away (and who many didn’t return), without all the handouts, without modern appliances, without cars, without extended family to help. And these women also worked in areas such as the Women’s Land Army, or back filled the positions vacated by the men. But in a short time, it’s become “all too hard”.

      And let’s face it - every species is able to reproduce itself.

      It was interesting to take note of the “Australian behavioural diagnosis trajectory” as another Aussie doctor with whom I worked termed it. In the four + years I worked in various medical institutions, we amount back here (but that’s for another column).

      I just wish that those who have the basics - a roof over your head, food, water, access to health care, education, realised what they have instead of what they don’t , and what they believe they are owed.

      End of rant.

    • Sally says:

      06:53pm | 30/11/12

      I love your passion and agree with your comment about Western sisterhood. We isolate ourselves from each other instead of supporting each other, and then wonder why things are so hard. Who knows how much help this woman does or doesn’t have, but as they say it takes a village to raise a child. Why not support her and be happy for her rather than complain that ‘she makes me feel…’. She doesn’t make you feel anything, she was only talking about herself.

    • andye says:

      02:13pm | 30/11/12

      “The horror came with the realisation that an impossible benchmark had been set - yet again - for the rest of us working mothers.”

      So you start off feeling like this woman is making you look bad as a mother…

      “Mayer has created the illusion of juggling work and motherhood when she is doing anything but. She’s not raising that child. How could she? From where I’m standing, her priorities are more like,  “Yahoo, Yahoo, Yahoo.””

      ...and then you judge her choices as a mother. Is this to make yourself feel better?

      She isn’t you and you are not her.

    • St. Michael says:

      02:19pm | 30/11/12

      The ultimate left wing wedge: a feminist mum who, having it all, has so much money and options that she doesn’t understand the struggles of the lower classes.

    • John says:

      02:21pm | 30/11/12

      Well written, as a male I do not know how a lot of women who want to “have it all” cope, particularly if they are single mothers. there are simply not enough hours in the day. It cannot be good for you to live that kind of life. I imagine Mayer works long hours and due to her exhorbitant salary and perks has a legion of people to help her with raising her child.
      a woman living a normal life should not compare themselves to her, you are just lining yourself up for failure

    • Mahhrat says:

      02:25pm | 30/11/12

      “The horror came with the realisation that an impossible benchmark had been set - yet again - for the rest of us working mothers.”

      And here is, I fear, a key difference between the genders.

      When I see a man achieve greatness, I’m an admirer.  I can celebrate him for his achievement alone.  I internalise it as an inspiration as to what can be done, not as a “benchmark” against which I must always measure myself.

      Only one or two men every generation can be the Australian Cricket Captain.  I don’t rate myself a failure because I can’t play cricket - I just love Ricky and what he’s brought both to the game I love and to myself as an enjoyer of cricket.

      Why not just admire what this woman has achieved - even with help, it’s impressive - and stop worrying about how it reflects on you?

    • AdamC says:

      03:16pm | 30/11/12

      Given that yet another of my comments has gone missing, I will simply endorse Mahhrat’s.

      Well said.

    • Markus says:

      03:29pm | 30/11/12

      It’s become ever more apparent that this is a gaping difference in mindsets.
      Most men see a great achievement and consider it as something to aspire to, even if they only ever achieve a fraction of the success.
      When I see the word ‘benchmark’, I see ‘level by which I can measure and my own personal goals and progress’.

      Articles like this popping up every second week have me convinced that a disturbingly large percentage of women see others’ success as a direct personal attack on their own progress.
      Even here, the way the author used the word ‘benchmark’ seems to be as a synonym for ‘mandatory minimum requirement’.

      As for claiming that an ‘impossible’ benchmark has been set, well it clearly isn’t impossible if you have just witnessed it, is it?

    • SM says:

      03:41pm | 30/11/12

      very well said Mahhrat.  Women endlessly compare themselves to other women.  In so many areas.  They simply cannot help themselves

    • Justme says:

      03:44pm | 30/11/12

      Because, Mahhrat, no one expects every single man to achieve the lofty heights of Aussie cricket captain. But if just one or two women set the bar ridiculously high in business or supermodelling or even baking cookies, then sadly there is an undercurrent of belief out there that rest of us are somehow expected to be able to achieve that as well. No one is nastier to women than other women when it comes to these sorts of expectation.

    • Kassandra says:

      02:28pm | 30/11/12

      It’s just mind over matter - she doesn’t mind because the baby doesn’t matter. That’s what she means by “ruthlessly prioritising”.

    • Tubesteak says:

      02:28pm | 30/11/12

      You make a lot of assumptions about her and many of your assumptions are absurd to the point it’s obvious you’re desperate to create a straw-man argument out of this

      By the sounds of it she’s a woman that realised you can’t have it all and life requires sacrifice but she doesn’t play the victim or the martyr because of this. Instead she just gets on with it

      Maybe there’s something to learn in that

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      02:39pm | 30/11/12

      Don’t worry this is probably a unique case. Most Australian new mums would take the six month holiday at someone else’s expense- either taxpayer funded maternity leave (current model) or Tony Abbott’s gold plated maternity leave funded by a tax upon business. Very few would want to go back to work and actually work…...

    • SydneyGirl says:

      02:47pm | 30/11/12

      Most blue collar women - you know the ones who farm, clean, look after babies, do all the menial jobs - return to work almost immediately after giving birth. So yeah its not a new thing.

      Don’t get me wrong, its good to have a break and we should have a society that facilitates a break.  But having a long rest is a bit of a luxury and if a woman feels up to it, has help etc. why not?

      And please lets stop this “impossible benchmark” thing whether its size 0 or returning to work. You set your benchmark. No adult women should be taking cues from and agonising over another adult woman’s benchmark.

    • debbie says:

      02:47pm | 30/11/12

      I hate it women do the “its all so easy” thing. Particularly if they are in a position where others look up to them. I knew a woman who did this, said it was all so easy, was doing her PhD and working, all with a new baby. Then I met her neighbour who told me her baby cried morning noon and night, there were screaming rows in the house and she was hardly ever home with her baby and let someone else deal with it. Motherhood would be extremely easy if you have someone else to bring up the baby and do everything else for u.

    • Tim the Toolman says:

      02:47pm | 30/11/12

      ““For me it’s God, family and Yahoo – in that order,” she told her audience.”

      It’s an amazing fact that a person will openly claim that they would throw their entire family under a bus if they thought god was telling them to.  Remind me to avoid Yahoo.  Who knows what she’d do with personal data if she thought it was god’s will.

    • expat says:

      03:15pm | 30/11/12

      I would not be very impressed as a yahoo shareholder coming in a measly third… That is just asking for trouble.

    • McPaddy says:

      05:15pm | 30/11/12

      Agreed. Anybody who says new motherhood and being a CEO of a major listed company is easy is either a sociopath (who is not really into children) or a liar, much like anybody who says they would put their imaginary friend ahead of their family…

    • scubasteve says:

      02:50pm | 30/11/12

      My wife went back to work after day 6 and day 7 post caesar for our two kids.
      I understand you had post natal depression, but there are women out there who are ‘super’ and can achieve amazing things.  Maybe Mayer has a fantastic husband husband who raises healthy, happy kids.
      Juggling work and motherhood is no illusion.  Your rant is insulting to millions of mothers who do work and are mothers.
      Nothing is impossible.

    • Testfest says:

      02:55pm | 30/11/12

      “For me it’s God, family and Yahoo – in that order.”

      If I were her family, I’d be pretty pissed at her right now.

      And if I were her priest I’d be keeping a close eye on the collection plate as it came past her pew. Put your money where your mouth is Mayer, hehe.

      Why is so much attention being given to a corporate high flying woman who went back to work really, really quickly after giving birth? Is this news?

    • Sarah says:

      02:55pm | 30/11/12

      I can’t think of anything duller than being a corporate warrior, spending your days looking at Powerpoints and Spreadsheets and going to meetings to talk about leveraging your customercentric monetisation of the just-in-time space while keeping one eye on your true north.
      Give me an average job where I get time to have a life, with family, friends, and leisure, thanks.

    • SM says:

      03:46pm | 30/11/12

      I hear you Sarah.  I’m in that world to some extent, certainly not to the degree/paypacket that the Yahoo lady is, but my day is spent surrounded by the absurd language and irrelevant nonsense that you’ve highlighted, and I want out.  Just not sure how to get out.

    • stephen says:

      06:57pm | 30/11/12

      Yeah, I’m just waiting for the sanity litmus tests on these people, just like the ones who are unemployed, the smokers, the dole recipients, those who are fat, and those are disabled and haven’t got a friend, if only to convince them to upgrade their private health insurance so they are not a burden on the taxpayer.
      Money surely cannot be so important to them - then it must be the power.

    • Old bag says:

      03:06pm | 30/11/12

      Oh goody. If we’re going to go there, lets assert that no successful man ever raised his own children.

      Most of us don’t descend into depression and substance abuse just because we have a baby. Were you “raising the child” while in rehab? While you were too depressed to function?

      Just because *you* can’t manage it, doesn’t mean it can’t be done.

    • Stormy Weather says:

      03:31pm | 30/11/12

      I watched a doco on Aung San Suui Kyi the other night and when she attended the viewing of a fellow politicians wife, she said something a long the lines of “she wasn’t a good mother because she wasn’t there for her children, she didn’t raise them.
      It was interesting because I always question how people, well women mostly can put politics or their country before their own children. I have an ingrained gender bias against it to be honest, I try not to but I have never once questioned Nelson Mandela and rarely question any other male political leader, celebrity or activist.
      I only ever do when it’s a mother and never the father which is really odd. 

      This creation of the “super parent” is crazy, and you are right in using the term “psychopath”.
      A while back I was talking to an Au pair working in Melbourne as we were waiting for a bus. She described the incredibly wealthy family she was working for and how the mother (in a successful law firm) was working overseas, whilst she was caring for her toddler here in Australia. The father, also in some high corporate position expected her not only care for the child but pick up his dirty washing as well. The chid was sick with a fever and it took the mother several days before she rang back home to see how her child was. The father was reluctant to take the child to the GP or hospital because he expected the Au Pair to, he had a big sook about it. The fact is the Au Pair can’t take the child to the hospital herself because she isn’t legally permitted to.

      Maybe a closer look into the lives of these successful, powerful and privileged “super parent” households would change the perspective of their superhero public personas. I’m sure many of their children are emotionally neglected in some way. It could be why you find so much drug addiction and dysfunction in wealthy families, only they are better at keeping it away from the public eye, most of the time anyway.

    • sami says:

      04:28pm | 30/11/12

      Not all women are particularly maternal though. I’m not. At all. Just like not all men are particularly paternal. It does seem weird that you have that kind of bias but there you go. We are all individuals. I do wonder what you think about people like me who aren’t even keen on kids, maybe we are heartless monsters or maybe we are nice people who are sensible. I don’t know.

      I call bs on the au pair not being able to take a kid to hospital. If I found a random child sick or injured on the street that I didn’t know from a bar of soap do you really think if I took it to hospital they’re going to say ‘nope’ and turn the kid away just because I’m not it’s parent? Seems utterly ridiculous I’m afraid.

      The fact is, dysfunctional and neglected kids/families exist in every demographic. There are good parents and bad across the board. Also there are great parents who have troubled kids and crap parents who have great kids so it’s some sort of nature/nurture luck of the draw, really.

    • Jamie Twiford says:

      05:25pm | 30/11/12

      It’s “drivel”, not “dribble”.

    • Stormy Weather says:

      06:39pm | 30/11/12

      I wasn’t really keen on children before I had one. I didn’t have any close relationships with parents so I didn’t actually know how to relate around children. I use to get annoyed at them but it changed after I had my own.
      Children are really interesting, funny and affectionate, I mean my kid says some really weird stuff sometimes. Other times they are selfishly motivated and determined to break you.
      It doesn’t mean “mother” is my only identity though, I have my studies, my creativity, my ideals and my cat..

      I think for me personally it was a maturity thing. I was immature before hand and quite dysfunctional.  After my child was born my focus shifted onto my child, it becomes a life or death thing because you have to feed your them, you have to supervise them, you have to keep their temperature down during a fever and you have to nurture them or deal with the consequences of being responsible for their harm. It’s unconditional what you do for your children.
      I’m different now, I love kids but there’s no way on Earth I could work with them or spend hours caring for other’s children. It would send me slightly more mad.

      I didn’t think I was maternal in comparison to some of the martyr mothers I have met (and avoid). A lot of mothers and fathers are fake, they have a maternal/paternal public image but can be rather cruel to their children in private or around people they don’t feel they need to impress.

      There’s nothing wrong with not being keen on kids. It makes you aware of your own limitations which maybe more parents should adhere to.
      I’m sure if you saw a kid about to get run over you’d still run to try and save them.
      It’s people who hurt and abuse children who are heartless monsters.
      The only time I get annoyed is when people think you have to be one or the other. A mother or child-free. We have to be able to respect each others decisions. There are pros and cons with being either and neither makes one more superior, however being a mother does make barriers towards fulfilling a career and can push you into poverty but so can a disability or becoming a carer. It depends on your support network and financial situation.
      I’m not sure about the law in Australia, but I know when I’ve had to take my child in to hospital they wouldn’t see him until they had my medicare card. Obviously if the child was passing out there’d be a duty of care.

 

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