Here’s a Punch quiz.

2009 - Teymour Shafaei practices his Chinese characters. In 1959 things were a bit different.

What do Foxtel’s Kim Williams, RMIT Vice Chancellor Margaret Gardiner and Victorian Opera supremo Richard Gill all have in common?

Yes, yes, they are all bright sparks and high achievers but it wasn’t until I became the Member for Bennelong and started to develop strong links with all my local schools in the north west of Sydney that I realised that this talented trio were all graduates of Marsden High School.

Last Saturday night Marsden celebrated 50 years of comprehensive public education and brought together students from across the decades.

You could spot the 59ers and 69ers in a flash. They were the ones peering very very closely at name tags. (Well, come on, who wants to give away their age and wear glasses at a school reunion?) They were also the ones with the best stories.

Kim Williams was happy to acknowledge his very first girlfriend (who was also in the audience) to a hall that was noisy and high on its own excitement.

Await the Foxtel Biography version of this one.

Richard Gill, later the school’s music master, had everyone in stitches as he reminded his peers of the deputy principal whose microphone technique consisted of repetitive blowing and tapping and ‘test test – can you hear me, can you hear me’ to the point where this took up the entire assembly time.

It was a great trip down the time tunnel to a time when secondary education was about to explode and when ambitious families of modest means could see that education was the pathway to social mobility.

First though, you had to actually locate a school. Gough Whitlam always reminds an audience that when he entered the Federal Parliament as the Member for Werriwa in 1952 there was not a single high school in his electorate. It wasn’t much different in the north west of Sydney.

Epping Boys, Cheltenham Girls and Marsden High were all built in a rush in the 1950s and when they opened, students were participants in a new six year high school curriculum known as the Wyndham scheme.

Looking back on his Marsden years at the reunion, Kim Williams identified one teacher after another – “Mr Neil in History who has influenced my thinking ever since” and of course “Richard Gill and Maureen Fryer, close lifelong friends.”

It was Gill and Fryer who could see the musical talent in the   working class teenager from West Ryde.

With good marks in the HSC, Kim Williams took the only route then available to bright kids from modest backgrounds – a Commonwealth Scholarship to Sydney University where he secured a Bachelor of Arts in Music. A stellar career in music and media has followed.

The point is this. In the 1950s and 1960s this was the exception. In completing Year 12 and going on to university, Williams was part of a tiny elite. In those days less than 15% stayed at school to complete their HSC. While he might recall with affection some aspects of his schooling, he’s scathing about the tolerance of the times for the drop-out rate after the completion of the School Certificate or Year 10.

As Williams sees it, Marsden High’s motto, “We Learn to Serve” had nothing to do with encouraging community activism but everything to do with “knowing your place.”

To this day it riles him when he talks about it. “Most of the boys were herded towards metal work and the girls to home economics.”

Fast forward from the class of 69 to the class of 09 and Marsden High has certainly changed. It’s highly competitive and Principal Greg Wann is proud as punch when he tells visitors that there are students from 46 different language groups at his school.

Marsden High now has a new motto – “Learning for Life.”

I remember my first visit in 2007 where I met a Year 12 student who struck me as mature beyond his years. His story came as a huge shock.

Along with his siblings he’d spent years in a refugee camp in Pakistan and had witnessed the sort of things that rob you of your childhood forever.

But this young man was one of Marsden’s stars. A top student, a community leader and a fiercely proud Australian citizen. He’s now well into his university studies in international law.

He’s proof positive that postcode is not destiny.

But in 2009, it is still a shock that we have a high school retention rate that has plateaued at around 75% nationally.

The Rudd Labor Government, like the Whitlam and Hawke governments before it, is committed to boosting the retention rate.

The Party’s recently renewed National Platform sets the goal of raising Year 12 equivalent retention rates to 90 per cent by 2020.

This week Families Minister Jenny Macklin put some stick into this commitment.

From January next year, payments of Family Tax Benefit A will be conditional on children aged from 16 to 20 completing or working towards completing their final year of secondary schooling (or an equivalent level of study or training.)

This is a big change and a timely one. The quality and breadth of our schooling tells us so much about who we are and what we treasure.

When Marsden High celebrates its centenary in 2059, the names and the faces will look different. And that will be because of the great expansion that took place at the start of the 21st century.

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    • Eric says:

      07:22am | 18/09/09

      Since you’re so keen on highlighting gender inequalities, Maxine, I’m surprised you fail to mention that the drop-out rate for both high school and university is much higher for boys.

      What is your government doing to address this problem?

    • Jolanda Challita says:

      07:47am | 18/09/09

      Maybe 50 years ago high achievers were supported and even respected today the DET wants to be the ones who determine who are the elite and who are high achievers and they have no qualms in manipulating with test scores and school applications in order to put students where they believe is their place.  Just ask my kids who paid the price because I complained about the neglect of the education as identified intellectually gifted children.  They were bullied by educators and administrators, they were systematically marked down, put down and humiliated over a period of many years and all my children were targeted.  It was an act of revenge to discredit us because we spoke out.  Those accused have been promoted and the complaints covered up.  Sound familiar?  School is no longer a safe place to be.  Education - Keeping them Honest
      http://jolandachallita.typepad.com/education/
      Our children deserve better.

    • Russell says:

      07:55am | 18/09/09

      Teachers in schools like Marsden often have a pretty tough job – not all the refugee students who have “their childhood robbed forever” go on to be “stars” and study international law. But enough do to give their teachers a sense of great pride in their work.

      Which is not often recognised, so thank you Maxine. It’s great that you have used the space allocated to you in Punch to help some of them make it through another day, survive another challenge.

      And I can’t help noticing that on the very same day the Liberal’s Sophie Mirabella used her space to do something very, very different.

    • Barb says:

      09:59am | 18/09/09

      These multicultural high schools sound wonderful - Asian culture is so much better than boring, racist, old British traditions. I’m actually surprised, due to ‘white-flight’, that most white parents take their kids out of these Anglo-hating schools and place them in schools were they’re taught respect for their heritage.

    • Margaret Gray says:

      11:19am | 18/09/09

      “...Marsden High now has a new motto – “Learning for Life.”...”

      Sadly, education needs to be much more than a snappy idiom for the stakeholders brochure.

      Under Rudd - catalysed by years of spiralling decrepitude and indifference by Labor state governments - education has devolved to little more than a series of bumper sticker slogans and photo opportunities for the incumbent ministers.

      Where is the “Revolution”?

      Where are the laptops?

      Where is the super dooper fast broadband?

      Once again the Comprachicos in the People’s Party are drowning in their own rhetoric.

      “Learning for life” rings hollow when a crowded progressive education curriculum means the basic skills of reading, writing and arithmetic have been relegated to the dustbin of history.

    • Peter says:

      11:25am | 18/09/09

      Ok so Maxine’s written a piece trying to show that she is actually of some relevance. Visits a couple of schools in her local area…whoopee. What is she actually doing in parliament anyway?
      Then there’s the usual Labor spiel of saying that anything of significance done in this country has been under Whitlam or Hawke (what about Keating by the way? Has he been purged from the Party?) She also forgot to mention that in the 50s and 60s when these schools were built it was actually the Menzies government in power.
      I wonder if “airbrushing history” will be one of the subjects taught in the future?  Any comparisons between the Rudd Labor Government and “1984” seem rather apt.

    • Russell says:

      11:31am | 18/09/09

      Hey Barb, can you explain what you mean? I’ve read that bit about “anglo-hating” schools several times and still haven’t got a clue. Where do you imagine these places are? Marsden? Errr… don’t think so!

    • Gibbot says:

      11:32am | 18/09/09

      Eric: “It’s the evil wimmins!”

      Jolanda: “It’s an evil conspiracy!”

      Margaret: “It’s the evil Ruddnums!”

      *insert topic here*

    • Eric says:

      12:02pm | 18/09/09

      Gibbot: Do you have anything useful to contribute, or are you just here to insult everyone else?

    • COF says:

      01:03pm | 18/09/09

      Eric, Gibbot’s comment was actually quite useful i.e. regardless of he topic, the three contributors mentioned seem to be lost in their agendas. Be insulted if you like, but the best way I find is to take it as constructive criticism and try to tackle the topic - i.e. high school retention rates. What can be done to improve high school retention rates, and should they be improved? Diversity in curriculum maybe? Is it necessary to educate the skills related workforce past year 10? Lots of meat there that is as yet untouched. I am pretty naive but interested in the topic and will look forward to a focussed opinion later on on the day.

    • daniella says:

      01:17pm | 18/09/09

      Did anyone else notice the characters in the picture are Japanese not Chinese?

    • Leah says:

      01:34pm | 18/09/09

      Who cares if kids drop out in grade 10? Personally I’d want my kids to stay til grade 12, (when I have kids) but there are people out there who drop out before Grade 12, get a trade and go on to become quite successful. University is not the only path in life. (Yes, I went to university).

      At least back in the 50s and 60s there was discipline in the schools and we didn’t have kids being hospitalised (or worse, dying) from being beat up at school…

    • pete says:

      01:39pm | 18/09/09

      where is anything????? lots of rhetoric and signs but that’s it. I have not seen one physical piece of evidence that the folls on the hill are actually doing anything, except raising their own allowances oh and the “stimulus”

      fast broadband that has to come because if they instaal the nanny filters on the internet without it, you would need 30 minutes to bring up google.

      You might think I’m a cranky libs voter, I’m not.  I’m a “why the bloody hell did i vote for this lot for”

      enjoy your stay Maxine, you wont be there for long, but the libs should not get excited. they will lose seats to the greens as well

    • Barb says:

      02:31pm | 18/09/09

      Sorry Russell, my point is that everything Maxine and the Labour Party do over the next 50 years will be designed to decrease the British influence over Australia and increase the Asian influence over the country. We can see this when Maxine writes -

      “Principal Greg Wann is proud as punch when he tells visitors that there are students from 46 different language groups at his school.”,

      “and When Marsden High celebrates its centenary in 2059, the names and the faces will look different. And that will be because of the great expansion that took place at the start of the 21st century.”

      Under Labour, first we’ll become a republic and change the flag, and then Asian’s (higher HSC scores, university scores) will begin to dominate the government - and they’ll favour Asians immigrants. Because the birthrate of Anglo-Australians is way below replacement level, Australia will be a majority Asian country in 50 years. So, everything from Anzac Day to Kokoda will no longer be remembered or revered. Rudd has said that Anglo’s have no ethnic right to the country, but do our Asian neigbours have a right to the country?

      Demographics is destiny, it’s just a pity that working-class Labour voters don’ t get this concept.

      BTW, I love people from different cultues, but we have to choose the kind of country we want to live in, or the likes of Maxine will decide it for us. Maxine’s multicultural vision for Australia has been tried in Europe and the US and it hasn’t worked - politicians have no idea how to fix the problems that the policies of diversity and equality have caused.

    • Gibbot says:

      02:53pm | 18/09/09

      Sorry Eric. The women made me do it.

      I don’t really see the purpose of concentrating on high school retention rates. I’d prefer to see more effort going into making the education our students do receive actually meaningful.

      Even when I was in school (longer ago than I’d like to admit), there was an emphasis on form over substance. Students who failed to grasp mathematical concepts & struggled with English, but had neat books often outscored students who actually understood the work.

      I see the flow on effect today, with a whole generation of nitwits who can make lovely graphs and powerpoint presentations, but don’t understand what they mean, *cough* Fielding *cough*

      I also don’t think that using the removal of tax concessions as a stick is going to help matters. I don’t have access to data, but common sense tells me that drop out rates would undoubtedly be highest at the lower end of the socio-economic scale. Many of these families already have no option as they literally can’t affort to keep their kids in school. Punishing them further seems kind of cruel to me.

    • Jasper says:

      03:32pm | 18/09/09

      Eric, boys are their own worst enemies when it comes to retention rates. Peer groups of boys rarely support academic achievement in their group and those who are conspicuously academic are inevitably bullied by their less academically minded peers.

      Maybe some boys and families of boys need to start thinking about what they can do to pull their own socks up.

    • Stephen Hill says:

      04:09pm | 18/09/09

      Barbs, Asian-Australians are getting better HSC marks because they work their arse off - because they have a commitment to education that is unfortunately sometimes neglected by complacent parents and governments alike.

      Having tutored some of students in Maxine’s electorate I can assure you that these young people are going to go on to great things, they are some of the most well-rounded people of any generation - ethical, outward-looking, intellectually curious. One of the great pleasures is reading the HSC results and celebrating when these students have been awarded places to study medicine, nanotechnology, communications, pharmocology and other very competitive positions. And having gone to a similar school not far outside Maxine’s electorate, with a vibrant mix of Korean, Chinese, Malaysian, Indian Australians - while it is easy to complain about the achievements of these students - I believe the work and commitment of these students rubbed off on the rest of the student population. Crikey, if it wasn’t for the Indians and Asian students a whole host of tutoring small-businesses would go broke - as probably about 9 out 10 students are from this demographic.

      By the way, if you are complaining about immigration (which I certaintly am not) why did you fail to mention the record immigration levels of the previous Coalition government.

    • lobi says:

      05:16pm | 20/09/09

      The reason so many were steered toward metalwork and home economics is that most people do not have the intellectual capacity to otherwise contribute to society. The ‘no child left behind’ mindset of contemporary education betrays those of superior intellect that could truly advance human progress. This system of lowering educational expectations for all students results in a HSC being a rubber stamp for just ‘turning up’. Potential scientists and thinkers are not equiped with the appropriate standards of mathematical theory, or, language skills for the communication of concept. Universitys now have to provide this basic education to bring Students up to the intellectual level required of a first year University student. The socialist invention of educational equality does nothing to increase quality of education, it only puts not very bright people in important positions. We can only survive on the processes created by our fore-fathers for so long before the rot overtakes us and the systems fall apart. I fear that the future belongs to the offspring of drug addicted ignorant savages that have a false sense of entitlment.

    • Peter says:

      10:17am | 02/06/11

      When I got placed on detention at Marsden High back in the 60s we were made to write essays about the school motto “We Learn to Serve.” The idea being that we would put down in words what deeds we would carry out to serve society at large. I don’t ever recall us being told the motto was about knowing your place or serving the ruling class.

 

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