The push by Bob Brown and Julia Gillard for a parliamentary inquiry into the media is so cynical, manipulative and transparently biased that if we really were as evil as they believe we’d congratulate them both for joining the dark side.

We're useless! Let's blame News Ltd!

Both leaders are seeking to establish a connection in the public’s mind between the obscene and illegal practices exposed in the UK and perfectly conventional and legitimate journalism and commentary in Australia with which they just happen to disagree.

It is extraordinary both how blatantly they have hijacked the issue and how seamlessly the more naïve and ideological sections of the community have followed them to this at best offensive and at worst dangerous illogicality.

The UK phone tapping scandal is about a British newspaper or newspapers engaging in illegal activity against ordinary citizens, most disgracefully, in some cases, the victims of crime.

This is now being used as justification by the Prime Minister and Senator Brown for a parliamentary inquiry into the local media. But why?

Do they have any evidence of phone tapping here? No.

Do they have any evidence of illegal activity here? No.

Do they even accuse reporters of behaving in a dishonest fashion or employing dishonest practices to obtain information here? No.

Yet still Brown wants an inquiry into media practices and ethics here.

That, it appears, is Australian journalists’ reward for not engaging in dirty and unscrupulous practices and generally being fairly decent types: A McCarthy-esque fishing expedition based on not a shred of evidence. Not even an allegation.

This absurd logic is the equivalent of police officers walking up to random people in the street and forcing them to prove they are not criminals.

And how will it work? Will rumpled press gallery scribes be dragged from their beds to testify which politicians they were drinking with the night before? Who said what? What was on or off the record? Will they have to give up sources? Expose whistleblowers? Will they, as Senator Joe encouraged so enthusiastically in the 50s, have to name names?

And of course media ownership will be scrutinised. And why is that again?

Were the dodgy practices engaged at News of the World caused by concentration of media ownership? Er, no.

In fact the running theory as to why such dirty tricks were employed is that competition in the UK newspaper market is so fierce and so cutthroat that papers would resort to anything to get the edge on their rivals – even those in the same stable.

So no, it’s not that there’s any indication of dodgy behaviour or that media ownership has caused dodgy behaviour, so what is it? Why are we having this inquiry again?

Well gosh, no one can really say. But there might be a teeny-weeny clue in the fact that Brown describes the Murdoch press as “hate media” and that Gillard this week told the press gallery: “Don’t write crap.”

Now it’s one thing for a politician to point to a news report or editorial or opinion piece and say “that is crap” and tell the world why, but it’s a tad chilling when a Prime Minister instructs reporters not to “write crap” in the middle of a debate about a new regulatory framework to govern the media. Who’s going to enforce that edict? The Ministry of Truth?

At least Gillard’s statement confirms what is shriekingly obvious: that this inquiry has nothing to do with the illegal or unethical behaviour of journalists and is all about an unpopular Government trying to stem criticism from a free press.

That alone should be enough to make citizens recoil from this absurd proposition and in a perfect world this piece would end there, but let’s indulge the Brown-Gillard position even further.

Perhaps this “free” press is in fact malevolent and evil? Unfair and unbalanced? Surely News Ltd is just a right-wing juggernaut determined to annihilate progressive Governments the world over? Surely News Ltd is a climate change-denying behemoth hellbent on destroying the emissions trading scheme?

What historical revisionism.

The Australian and The Daily Telegraph both openly endorsed Labor at the 2007 election, at which Kevin Rudd campaigned overwhelmingly on a platform of action against climate change.

Not only that, News Ltd itself is a 100 per cent carbon neutral company, having already reduced or offset all its emissions in just three years.

In fact, as is well known to all in politics and the media, the halcyon days of the Labor Government ended because Rudd abandoned the emissions trading scheme at the urging of Gillard and others.

After Rudd plummeted in the polls for taking this woeful advice, the same people who advised him then knifed him in an unprecedented palace coup that was shocking to and deeply unpopular with the public and remains so to this day.

Following the assassination, Gillard then embarked upon what Labor powerbroker Graham Richardson – possibly the nation’s top political strategist – called “the worst campaign in history”.

During that time she unequivocally vowed that there would be no carbon tax under any government she led.

After the woeful campaign resulted in a hung parliament, Gillard reneged on her promise in order to win the support of the Greens and enable her to form government.

Since then, that deception and a string of policy failures – most notably asylum seekers (remember the East Timor solution?) and lately live cattle exports (not enough action when it was needed and then too much action when it wasn’t) – have left Labor at record low standing, with barely a quarter of voters supporting the party.

And yet the PM claims – or at least deliberately implies – that her unpopularity is due to an overly critical press.

The argument here, apparently, is that a Government which has driven itself into uncharted depths of antipathy in the public’s view, should still be treated generously by the newspapers, even though their readers and the electorate are overwhelmingly opposed to it. Perhaps that is one of the rules that will be enforced by the media’s new governing body.

The truth – and perhaps it is a sad truth – is that there is no conspiracy. After enormously promising beginnings, this Government has been nothing short of a disaster and the media – the News Ltd media at least – has reflected both the ups and the downs. It is telling that no one was calling for a media inquiry in 2007 and 2008 when Kevin Rudd was riding high but now that the Government’s copping a drubbing it wants to investigate editorial ethics.

And perhaps the biggest irony of all is that one of the reasons Gillard was installed as leader was because she was considered to be such a good communicator and media performer. Now that she’s fallen short, again the media is to blame.

The spectacular implosion and then decline of the ALP Government is many things: tragic, disastrous and – for any genuine Labor supporter – simply heartbreaking. But it is not the media’s fault, it is squarely its own.

Shooting the messenger is as easy as it is lazy and cowardly. If the Government wants better media coverage it shouldn’t be looking towards regulation, it should look towards the harder and braver task of enacting and making the case for policies that connect with both the electorate and Labor’s own values, instead of the panicked and ever-changing grab-bag of ideas nicked from the Coalition (offshore processing) and the Greens (carbon tax).

The PM also needs to get some serious and urgent advice on how to handle both the public and the media so as to avoid PR Titanics ranging from “the real Julia” to this week’s excruciatingly awkward exchange with the “Why did you lie to us?” woman.

Governments can usually get by on good policy or good spin; the best have both, this one has neither. Using the appalling behaviour of UK tabloids as an excuse to pursue a political agenda against the Australian press is just more proof of that.

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    • john taylor says:

      07:27am | 16/07/11

      Joe. Can you categorically rule out that no journo in the Australian arm of News has been associated with tapping of phones, illegal activity to get a story or dishonest practices?  But where is the line drawn?  I mean Bolt, Akerman, Blair and Albrechtson are famous for selective quotation to make something seem as it is not (honest?  Hardly) and judiciously ‘moderating’ their blogs to limit comments in the main to their sycophantic supporters. And if there is no need for an inquiry why is Harto looking at the last three years?  But why only the last three years?  Why not go back further and we can confirm where Bolt got the Wilkie report (well at least confirm from which Minister’s office it came from). As for the advice not to write crap I suggest that the Murdoch stable (sty really) take that on board. As for backing this party or that at election time, err, is that really the role of the media?  Report the facts in an unbiassed way and let the voters decide. Since when did the media assume the right to folk how to vote. The media has long forgotten its place, and it aint to make the news. Hopefully this latest issue and subsequent inquiries will put the media back in its place. Btw Aust journos DO engage in dirty tricks. This has been exposed on a number of occasions but, funnily, doesn’t get that much attention. Bit of a sweetheart deal perhaps?

    • AdamC says:

      09:49am | 16/07/11

      “Joe. Can you categorically rule out that no journo in the Australian arm of News has been associated with tapping of phones, illegal activity to get a story or dishonest practices?”

      How do you want him to prove this negative, John? This is News Corp derangement syndrome in action.

    • naïve ideologue says:

      09:53am | 16/07/11

      You’re quite right to raise the issue of going further back than 3 years, jt, the criticisms of Murdoch’s media in Australia go back much further than that, are broader and have very little to do with UK phone hacking.

      The self-important egotistical bleating in this article and elsewhere in News Ltd papers is hilarious. I don’t know if they realise how ridiculous they look defending the indefensible, but considering how every new revelation further shames Murdoch’s empire, one wonders how long Murdoch’s local hacks will continue debasing themselves and their profession.

      This thing has escalated to include multiple newspapers, offences and offenders and has expanded to the US — with every turn of the page it just gets worse and worse for Murdoch and his minions and it’s still got a long, long way to go. When the fallout fully washes up on these shores it will have taken on a very different complexion. Twee duplicitous agitprop like this article will seem even more farcical then than it does today.

    • Jim says:

      10:09am | 16/07/11

      Whilever there is biased left-wing propoganda and lies spewing forth from the likes of GetUp, Rising Tide, Trade Unions, the ABC and Fairfax then of course there are going to be people pushing the other side.

      But I don’t really see what your spray is about john, you’re accusing every Murdoch reporter of being biased and sneaky? Really? You have the biggest ALP sycophant since Laurie Oakes in Mal Farr punching out 3-4 fairy tales a day, you have David Spears fawning over everything Gillard does, there are some VERY left-leaning journos and commentators working for news.

      It would appear you yourself are extremely biased and therefore not worth the effort of arguing a point.

    • Brian says:

      10:11am | 16/07/11

      Am I right in describing this person as a left extremist….I hope he knows if this inquiry goes ahead two things would happen, 1. The ABC will be exposed as the BIASED media organisation it is with only a certain political view allowed in its reporters, 2. Any changes Brown and Gillard make will be under the Coalitions control after the next election…..and we can only hope they use what ever opposite opinion busting rules the left (Communists) come up with to crush the ABC.

    • Denny Crane says:

      10:20am | 16/07/11

      Did you miss Mark Riley going thru the bins outside Helen Coonan’s home? Or like a typical leftie are you prepared to overlook media doing wrong things to conservatives?

    • scubasteve says:

      10:21am | 16/07/11

      “Report the facts in an unbiassed way’  perlease.
      The ABC pats itself on the back after every election for its ‘unbiased’ coverage.
      As for opinion writers and bloggers. Its is the right and duty of Australian journos to write whatever rubbish they desire.
      Long live freedom of the press
      Viva la crap

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      10:27am | 16/07/11

      joe taylor

      Why don’t you read the article again and try to comprehend the gist of why the author wrote the article?

      Joe the author,

      Well said and more journalists should come out in support of Australian journalism instead of kowtowing to PM Bob Browne and his lying puppet Julia Gillard who is really our PM but in name only.

      Couldn’t believe the journalists sitting at the Press Club at the lying puppet’s latest speech when she said that the media should stop writing crap. They clapped and laughed - pathetic I thought. Tony Abbott was slightly booed and scrutinized big time by the media when he made that opinion about economists - whatever it was!

      Bob Browne is dangerous and what is more worrying is that Gillard Labor who is on the nose with the people is bound to Bob Browne not to govern but for their survival to remain in power!

      It’s like the people have no say anymore, cigarette packaging, pokies, carbon tax, mining tax, gay marriage etc whatever Bob Browne wants he gets if we carry on the way we are!

      For Gillard, Swan, Keating and Bob Browne to say that certain media is against the Govt is utterly ludicrous and total madness. However, this is to be excepted when you are on the losing side.

      Good work Joe, the author keep it up! Stuff Bob Browne and Gillard! I would be making them pay!

    • Andrew says:

      10:55am | 16/07/11

      And what about reports coming out of the USA that there may have been hacking of 9/11 phones by News Ltd people?

      Bit rich to say it is only a problem for the UK arm of News. Especially as it started with NOTW and has now implicated the Times and Sun too.

      I hope they do have an enquiry, kick over some rocks and see all the scumbags from News, Fairfax and ABC scurry for cover.

      The trouble with you ‘journalists’ is that you now want to be the news, and not report the facts. Sir Keith Murdoch would be rolling over in his grave over the antics of the company he founded.

      Sir Keith used his influence to shine a light on the disaster of the Gallipoli. Scumbag journalists today hack into dead peoples phones and smear anyone and everything that they do not agree with. On any level of decency you lot fail.

    • tiny Dancer says:

      11:23am | 16/07/11

      Good work John - lets have another inquiry, even if there is no evidence.  Sorry, there might be evidence, thats a damn good reason. 

      There is something wrong with the left.  Why are you up in arms about this but not about Assange, your pin up boy.

      Why so much hate?  Brown is a clown who hates being looked at and funnily enough there is plenty of stuff he’s like to hide.

    • Gregg says:

      11:28am | 16/07/11

      With Kevin and a few other happy types about, who needs any tapping and certainly not when Juliar gets asked publicly about lying for all of us to see!

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      12:13pm | 16/07/11

      Oooooops in anger I called john taylor joe taylor!

      We now read Attorney General Robert McClelland saying that Labor rejects media review demanded by Bob Browne. Why didn’t Julia Gillard say when first asked at the Press Club (during the time she was applauded by the pathetic journalists for saying the media should stop writing crap) that her Labor Govt rejected what Bob Browne wanted. Instead she said she was going to leave open the possibility of a review. Leadership my foot!

      Stick to your guns Joe. A pity we haven’t more jurnos like yourself!

    • GB says:

      12:30pm | 16/07/11

      @John Taylor. What a hypocritical piece of claptrap. Do you hold the ABC, Fairfax, Mark Riley et al. to the same exacting standards you expect of News Ltd.? Talk about people in glass houses. Be very careful what you wish for.

    • John the Zombie says:

      01:19pm | 16/07/11

      Andrew if you actually listerned and watched the news or even read it, it states the same British journo’s who are under investigation for phone tapping are the ones who were trying to get access to 911 victims numbers. There was no arm in the News Limited American desk doing this. Get your facts straight before commenting. The FBI is only investgating in the USA as they have powers to actually take action against foreigers such as the journos in this disgusting hacking scandal.

    • Chris L says:

      02:01pm | 16/07/11

      I see people (including our “esteemed” journalist Joe) are still pushing the lie about a lie. Gillard indeed said that there would be no carbon tax and then went on to say there would be a carbon price! If you didn’t understand what that meant you should have done some research rather than bleat about it now using a carefully edited soundbite as some sort of “evidence”. That clip showing Gillard promising no tax has set of my BS detector ever since I noticed that it cut out mid sentence!

      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983

    • drsusancalvin says:

      02:27pm | 16/07/11

      “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”.  NewsCorp need to do more than give sweeping reassurances to Australians. Why on earth would anyone believe them?

    • Andrew says:

      03:47pm | 16/07/11

      John the Zombie says:12:19pm | 16/07/11

      My facts are straight. Which part of ‘may’ don’t you understand. But the central fact remains, there is a toxic culture in its UK arm.

      How people can defend any of these morons is beyond me. And people like the author of this OP are not even journalists. A journalist reports in an even handed manner on an event. These clowns wouldn’t know how to be even handed, either left or right.

      So stick your unrighteous indignation where the sun don’t shine. When the FBI uncover something done by New Ltd, as we all know they will, I will happily accept your apology. You can have it published in The Australian’s letters page.

    • Jason says:

      05:05pm | 16/07/11

      @John Taylor, what would you say to being called to a drawn out enquiry where YOU must prove YOU have never engaged in criminal behaviour. No evidence of course, just because.

      Actually, if this enquiry really is independent and balanced, it might be a good thing. The only logical conclusion possible is a severe straightening out for the ABC.

      Of course, this is a Labor government so logical and successful conclusions are as rare as hen’s teeth.

    • Chris L says:

      05:15pm | 16/07/11

      I put the quotation marks around the wrong word. Joe, you are esteemed (certainly by me) but I would question any claim of you being a “journalist” if you were to make one.

    • John the Zombie says:

      05:34pm | 16/07/11

      Chris L there is major difference in a ETS and a cabon tax. The only thing same in this case is the compensation. In the ETS the companies would by the credit on the free market and sell them as well.

      Maybe you should do some reading before you post. Also do some reading about Europe as it is been use as a fine example of the Carbon Tax. In Europe it is 16 per ton and a large amount of power in Europe is guess what produced by nuclear power which has been offered as a option but both Brown and Gillard are no, no, no nuclear is not allowed in Australia yet we send the yelllow cake overseas. Didnt Rudd also say that Gillard was one of those who told him to drop the ETS?

      Note also the finacial position Europe is in. Most economist predict a collapse in Europe of the markets.

    • scotty says:

      07:47pm | 16/07/11

      John, you DO realise that the PI agency accused of doing this was used by ALL UK papers - not just News Ltd ones.

      Can YOU categorically rule out that Fairfax hasn’t been associated with illegal activity?

      When you answer, bear in mind the Age is currently being investigated by the Federal Police for illegally accessing the electoral database to build up profiles of persons of interest.

    • John the Zombies says:

      09:26pm | 16/07/11

      Andrew pls point out to me the part were I am defending the UK papers. You astound me by ur own dribble, I pointed out the fact it was the UK arm that was asking and in some cases trying to bribe NY police for contact details.

      Let me spell this out for you what my comments were. That is that it was the UK repeat as you seem to be tough at reading UK media trying to get details from the USA.

      so if the FBI find no links to theUSA let me repeat the the USA arm of news Ltd will you then publish an apology in the Australian.

    • Chris L says:

      11:49pm | 16/07/11

      “there is major difference in a ETS and a cabon tax” -

      Actually, Zombie John, that’s kinda my point. I’m not talking pros or cons here, I’m pointing out that the coalition has edited a clip of Gillard in a deceiving way to make it look like she said something she actually didn’t say.

      I know, it’s not a new thing to experience deceipt from a politician, and Abbott even pointed out that it’s part of his process. I’m simply objecting to people screaming that somehow Gillard lied more than any other politician… especially when the “evidence” of that lie is a confected, edited, invented piece of BS from the coalitian. Seriously, if you only just started caring about political lies you must be on some pretty good stuff.

    • Meh says:

      12:19am | 17/07/11

      Joes has drawn an incredibly long bow in this article. Murdoch UK press stipulated for several years that it had cut out the cancer when it hadn’t, and I don’t beleive for a tick the other papers were complete angels.

      It would be farcical to believe that no illegal activities have occurred in Aust in media and while the momentum from overseas police & FBI investigations and public support is there for media practices to be examined, now is the right time to do it.

      Murdoch should be thankful that it is limited to 3 years and not rexamine the Packer-Powers-Murdoch cross media ownership dodginess.

    • Wilko says:

      12:55am | 17/07/11

      John Taylor clearly you work somewhere well insulated from the real world. It’s clear you have zero knowledge of how media works. Leave the comments to those who know their stuff OK?

    • Steve Putnam says:

      09:49am | 17/07/11

      You have to worry about some of the so called journalists News Limited publishes. The gang of four you name have never to my knowledge ever written anything in criticism of the conservatives. Journalists considered on the left of the political spectrum such as Mike Carlton, Adele Horin and Alan Ramsay on the other hand, have regularly put the boot into the ALP state and federal when they’ve deserved it and good on them for doing so.
      I get The Australian every day so I’m in a reasonable position to judge this even though time doesn’t permit me to read everything they write.
      Perhaps some of you punchers could direct me to something that would
      qualify as criticism of the the Tories.

    • Static says:

      09:56am | 17/07/11

      Jim and Brian The ABC have a long way to gugo to even approximate the bias shown in the Australian and lets nor forget the radis Ranters Jones,Hadlee and Smith

    • acotrel says:

      11:00am | 17/07/11

      @ No1 Rosie
      ‘For Gillard, Swan, Keating and Bob Browne to say that certain media is against the Govt is utterly ludicrous and total madness. However, this is to be excepted when you are on the losing side.’

      The Right of Australian politics claim the ABC is biassed against them.  Now the left are complaing about Murdoch’s lot.  The reality is that the ABC gives both sides a lot of stick in fairly equal proportions.  It’s mainly the conservatives who complain! Can you really claim that Bolt and Jones are not biassed when they are so poisonous in their rhetoric against the left?  If the crap was dealt out equally against all of the parties, you might have a point!

    • Chris L says:

      11:08am | 17/07/11

      @John The Zombie, you seem to be trying to imply I said something about how the carbon price would work and then proceed to correct me (on something I never said) and tell me to do more reading.

      Maybe you should ensure you understand the point of a person’s post before criticizing them. I was pointing out that this belief that Gillard lied about the carbon price is, itself, a lie perpetuated by a carefully edited clip. I said nothing about how the carbon price would work nor even mentioned Europe. Nice try, but fail.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      02:05pm | 17/07/11

      acotrel

      I couldn’t give a shit about biased journalism. I can read, see and judge for myself so are many Australians. No inquiry is needed and I give Joe all my support.

      The reality is Julia Gillard herself is killing the carbon tax, not the carbon tax killing her. Then again once the nation’s PM is publicly humiliated in a shopping centre and then runs off to the safe haven of the Press club in Canberra for sympathy votes she becomes a political goner.

      It is obvious that the trust and respect given to a sitting PM is not there. Then to blame others but yourself for the job you do and the way you attained that job, is preposterous.

      The populace are even more angry with Julia, Swan etc for the $25 million of our money to sell something the majority oppose and has the certainty of having it passed through both houses without a choice to have a say in the matter.

      To be honest acotrel, my care factor which started @ 10 because I care about the planet for my children and grandchild is now 0. I just want this carbon tax thing out of the way as there are so many more important issues that any Govt should be tackling. The uncertainty we see globally which will no doubt affect us is another reason I feel the timing of this carbon tax is wrong.

      To use the words of the late Kerry Packer “intellectual wank” is what this carbon tax debate has become.

    • Dan Lewis says:

      03:35pm | 17/07/11

      John Taylor: “Joe. Can you categorically rule out that no journo in the Australian arm of News has been associated with tapping of phones, illegal activity to get a story or dishonest practices? “

      John, can you categorically rule out that you aren’t a child molester?

      It’s rather hard to disprove something that never happened. Hence that whole “innocent until proven guilty” concept that appears lost on those who would prefer a witch-hunt.

    • john taylor says:

      10:56am | 18/07/11

      I think it perfectly reasonable, given Joe’s supposition dressed up as fact that he be asked, to rule it out.  Given how widespread it was in the UK and may also extend to the USA it is entirely reasonable to raise the issue “did it happen here?”.  Unless Joe has personal knowledge of the workings of every News Ltd Journo he cannot suggest that simply because he has no knowledge it didn’t happen.  Of course that sort of logic is irrestible to the Murdochians - but those of us with the qualities of logic and reasoning and an inquiring mind don’t fall for it.

      The state of media is pretty appalling in Australia.  It is unaccountable and has incredible power which I do not believe, across the board, it wields fairly or responsibly.  Let us put it under the spotlight.  That is not an assault on a free press, but merely ensuring that in the name of ‘free press’ the media is not abusing its considerable position of influence. Those with nothing to fear will have nothing to hide, surely.  And as I said in other posts here, the inquiry should look at the whole lot - News Ltd, Fairfax, ANC, Stokes - the lot.

      As for my own politics etc - atypical swinging voter.  I have no party loyalties whatsoever as I believe the party system has almost irredeemable corrupted the political process in Australia from the grassroots up. 

      As for media, well, I read all the broadsheets and tabloids daily.  When I am able I watch the news and current affairs coverage of every station.  The truth is somewhere in the middle.  But unlike a lot of posters to the Punch (which I enjoy immensely) can I say that the last thing I would ever do is read an opinion piece and automatically assume, even if it tallies with my own views, that it is necessarily correct.  That is intellectual laziness of the first order.  Rather I will go and seek some further information - even stuff that is the complete oppposite and do something that a lot of media commentators hate.  I make my own mind up.

      Finally I do note that Rupert is making a fair few efforts to improve things.  Well done him.  I might suggest, however, that he perhaps focus on an education program through his Aussie publications to teach the proper use of an apostrophe.

    • Erick says:

      07:28am | 16/07/11

      The agenda of the Green/Labor government is control of the media and censorship of inconvenient views. Brown is a closet despot and Gillard is desperate enough to do anything. This is a dire threat to free speech.

    • BobM says:

      09:25am | 16/07/11

      In Bob Brown’s world, only views that are supportive of the Green/Labor Party (don’t kid yourselves ALP members, that is what it is) and views that denigrate the Coalition would be allowed to be published.  He is such a supporter of freedom and democracy - NOT.

    • Harri says:

      09:56am | 16/07/11

      Erick,
      Why then, are you and Abbott afraid of an enquiry ?

    • Super D says:

      10:18am | 16/07/11

      Imagine if a government wanted to have total control over the media in the modern age?  Perhaps the easiest way to achieve this would be to control the delivery platform via government ownership of a single, ubiquitous broadband network?

    • The Galah from Hervey Bay says:

      10:30am | 16/07/11

      Right on Erick !!  .....another distraction designed to take some heat off Gillard and Labor becomes a bungle in itself.
      The disastrous policy implementation outcomes and program failures such as the East Timor asylum seeker fiasco and livestock export suspension have left the government in tatters.

      Even the hardened Canberra press gallery journos have blinked at this performance and those particular journos must be the last in Australia left singing the praises of our P.M.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      11:18am | 16/07/11

      Damn Straight. Let’s close down The Punch and anything to do with News limited immediately. And let’s hunt down this person called Erick for good measure…..

    • Bev says:

      12:26pm | 16/07/11

      It is interesting the Bob seems to be wanting an enquiry to examine who is a “fit and proper” person to own a media outlet (who gets to decide?) and foreign ownership.  Both subjects on which he feels he can attack News Ltd. It could well backfire as middle Australia is smarting as they feel not only are their views being ignored but they are actively being labled as rednecks etc and to them it seems there is an attempt to shut them up.  I have not seen for a very long period of time so many people who are not particularly political becoming so.  The old adage no religion or politics in conversations has definitely disappeared and friends of mine who never discussed politics now are becoming vocal.  There is a storm brewing.

    • Just Sayin' says:

      02:13pm | 16/07/11

      Hey Harri, can the police and search your house, question your neighbors, examine your financial records and have a discreet chat to your colleagues? Why not? What are you afraid of? I’d finish off with an insult, but the only insults suitable for people like you who cry out to be controlled by despots and demand to have all your rights and freedoms taken away, would probably get my post censored.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      08:33pm | 16/07/11

      What a frightened little fellow you are Erick. Unlike the Howard Government which metaphorically bent over and dropped its pants whenever a media proprietor looked sideways at it, Brown calls them to account and you see this as despotic behaviour.
      What does “free speech” have to do with the selective presentation of information or opinion masquerading as journalism? Shouldn’t we be at pains to ensure the types of abuses that have come to light during the News of the World scandal don’t infect our media?
      Industry self-regulation is an insufficient safe guard in the media (as elsewhere) for this corner stone of our our democratic freedom.

    • Erick says:

      10:37pm | 16/07/11

      “What does “free speech” have to do with the selective presentation of information or opinion masquerading as journalism?”

      That IS free speech. Free speech is the right to say anything you want to, even if it’s biased.

      Also, bear in mind that one person’s bias is another person’s truth. Would you like it if Tony Abbott or Pauline Hanson “called the media to account”? Because that’s the road you’re going down.

    • Austin 3:16 says:

      11:18pm | 16/07/11

      Hey Just Sayin’ - sure they can do all that. All they need is a warrant.

    • AJ Power says:

      11:39pm | 16/07/11

      @ Super D

      Some might think your a nut job, but honestly you raise a very valid point.

    • Matt says:

      12:51am | 17/07/11

      ”  Austin 3:16 says:
        10:18pm | 16/07/11
        Hey Just Sayin’ - sure they can do all that. All they need is a warrant.”

      Have Bob and Julia applied for a warrant yet? They aren’t the kind of things that are found inside a box of cereal you know.

    • Against the Man says:

      09:58am | 17/07/11

      Right now - Bob Brown and Juliar Gilltard are the most dangerous men in Australia destroying us from inside out! Beware!

    • nihonin says:

      07:46am | 16/07/11

      I blame Fairfax, they hacked the ALP database here in Australia, the left spying on the left, it’s almost a paradox.  mwahahaha funny as.

    • Erick says:

      09:27am | 16/07/11

      Funny how all the talk is about an inquiry into News Ltd, but not into any of the other media outlets in the country. Can anyone say “politically motivated witch-hunt”?

    • Erick says:

      11:53am | 16/07/11

      I have to wonder why so many people are demanding an investigation of News Cor, despite having no evidence of any wrongdoing in Australia. Yet they aren’t calling for an investigation of all the other media outlets. Political witch hunt?

    • RobJ says:

      12:19pm | 16/07/11

      “Funny how all the talk is about an inquiry into News Ltd, but not into any of the other media outlets in the country.”

      What are you talking about? Brown is calling for an investigation into Australian media. Funny how only News Ltd and their followers are complaining (and making stuff up like Erick just did)

    • Luke4 says:

      07:48am | 16/07/11

      First -  it was “Rudds” fault of declining polls.
      Second -  it was the “shock jocks” fault for declining polls.
      Third - it was “Abbott’s” fault and his negativity for declining polls.
      Fourth -  and currently it is the “media’s” fault for declining polls.
      Like naughty children blaming everyone else but themselves and always looking for excuses to blame anyone else but themselves for their declining polls.
      Pathetic and embarrassing to listen to. I wonder who they will blame next?

    • fox says:

      09:44am | 16/07/11

      “Pathetic and embarrassing to listen to. I wonder who they will blame next? “

      Oakeshot already has.. the Australian people simply can’t come to terms with the fact that Julia is a woman. They can’t handle it.. yet they were the ones that voted her into power-

      The mind boggles.

    • RJB says:

      10:45am | 16/07/11

      @ Luke you saved me a lot of typing, friends and I were expressing the same sentiments last night. I guess that soon we will all be dressed in grey and only the brave will whisper dissatisfaction with the Greens/ Labor government.

    • Gregg says:

      11:32am | 16/07/11

      @Luke
      ” I wonder who they will blame next? “
      That’s as easy as pie - Us for not liking the crap Juliar does not want reported, and I suppose there could then be the ASs or Indonesians or Malaysians.

    • DidntVoteGreen says:

      07:52am | 16/07/11

      You know the game’s up when politicians name names. Brown has consistently called the Australian and News Ltd the ‘hate media’, but because of his minority status it doesn’t really rate a mention. Now Swan has come out and pointed the fingers at the Daily Telegraph et al.

      Just consider that. The deputy PM of this country pointing the finger at a publication because they don’t support the policies of the government! The petulance of this government is astounding. The Rudd/Gillard should be recalled in years to come with revulsion and shame.

    • Denny Crane says:

      10:23am | 16/07/11

      Imagine if Abbott did it. The media would attack him like no tomorrow. But we are used to the differing standards applied in this country. Mark Riley, supposedly an impartial political reporter asked the PM what the medis can do to soften the blows she is receiving on her deceiptful carbon tax. What a joke.

    • Kath Grant says:

      10:52am | 16/07/11

      From The Australian 9th September 2010.

      “We wear Senator Brown’s criticism with pride. We believe he and his Green colleagues are hypocrites; that they are bad for the nation; and that they should be destroyed at the ballot box. “

      Sounds hateful to me.

    • Baal says:

      07:54am | 16/07/11

      Joe. Journalists are about as respected in this country as politicians. You are both professions obsessed with manipulating the public to get what you want barr a few lone voices of integrity that are all but drowned out.
      Left, Right, centre or pet issue both journalists and Politicians are well known for being untrustworthy and in someones pockets.
      Everyone has thier price Joe, all you need to find is thier currency.
      Also I saw you on Q&A. I liked you until then but you came across as a Murdoch monkey, say it ain’t so Joe?

    • John the Zombie says:

      01:29pm | 16/07/11

      Baal Q&A, when you look up bias in the dictionary you will find Q&A next to it.

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      04:03pm | 16/07/11

      Q & A has the spread of parties supported on the bottom, it consistently has half liberal voters in the audience.  How can you claim there is bias to the left when I don’t watch it anymore because of the bias to the right.

    • John the Zombie says:

      09:33pm | 16/07/11

      Marilyn Shepherd that is bull. The other day while watching Q&A I saw the break up. It stated that the break up of the audience was 49% liberal yet when senator Hanson Young critised the liberal the entire audience clapped. Dont tell me that they must of supported Hanson comments against the liberals.

    • Against the Man says:

      08:05am | 16/07/11

      So now the media is on Gilltard’s extensive enemies list are you guys gonna help with the critical strike to bring her down? smile

    • Peter says:

      08:19am | 16/07/11

      It would seem that after drawing back the curtains to let the sun shine in on the new paradigm of politics, a little too much sun was let in and now the curtains need to be closed.
      If the majority of the voting public and the media openly disagree with the policies of this ridiculous alliance between Labor, the Greens and the “Independents”, according to Bob Brown and his disciples we are part of the “hate media”.
      In a robust democracy, the media has a vital role in scrutinising policies and political decisions and bringing them to the attention of the voting public.
      In the fanciful, socialist world of Bob Brown, we are meant to accept their paternalistic dictates and remain mute.

    • thatmosis says:

      08:27am | 16/07/11

      If you disagree with what Queen Bob abd Joolia are saying then you are the enemy and will be destroyed in some form or another. Whether it be by labelling or bringing in legislation to block dissenting views they will find some way of silencing you. The Gopvernment has got Get Up as there preferred tool at meetings of opponents and the Greens are looking for ways of silebcing the media who disagrees with their warped views and with Jooliar so hell bent on staying in power by any means she will go along with whatever Queen Bob wants. The fact that hundreds of thousands of Australians fought and died to allow us to have a voice free from censorship means nothing to a party that wants the power no matter what.

    • Bev says:

      10:57am | 16/07/11

      It was reported that Getup was able to publish the details of the carbon tax before the lockup had finished.  Somebody ? had leaked the details to them.  You have to wonder whether getup is not a front for the greens/labour and whois paying their bills. Certainly their subscibers pay money but they seem to have enough money to buy tickets for the PM dinner and win a private PM dinner for their chosen parties.  They also seem to have enough money to buy 150 seats at the press club for Lord Monckton’s address to the Press Club.  One also has to speculate how that address will go as there are aprox 240 seats available.  150 to getup 20 to climate scientists leaving 70 seats for others. Will they allow his talk to proceed or will they do what happened at Cophenhagen where the meeting was totally disrupted.

    • John the Zombie says:

      01:27pm | 16/07/11

      Bev Getup primary source of income is from the Unions. Interesting enough reports have shown that the govt has increased funding to the unions under the guise that its purpose if for unions to able to advice employers and employees on the workplace relations.

      Maybe a inquiry should be launched into that and to see how much is actually been used for this purpose and how much is been funded to groups like GetUp

    • G says:

      08:30am | 16/07/11

      What about an inquiry in Bob Brown’s plans to bring this country to a socialist dictator state?

    • Delusional G says:

      09:30am | 16/07/11

      Hi G -“Bob Brown’s plans to bring this country to a socialist dictator state” -

      Would you mind supplying a link to this, I would be more than interested in reading such!

    • Bruce fof Modbury says:

      12:59pm | 16/07/11

      @Delusional

      Go to the Greens web site and read their policies.

    • Sandy says:

      08:46am | 16/07/11

      I have found it amusing over the last few days with the News Ltd articles and editorials stating how good they are, how they are not biased, they have standards, its all the governments fault etc etc.
      Then I saw you on the Drum Thursday night, your rant clinched it!
      We need a media review of ownership (70% ownership by one company is far to much, we need diversity)
      We need a media review and then a watchdog with teeth, to ensure that News companies hold to their own jounalistic rules. (Most would have similar to the News Ltd rules as reported by Jonathan Holmes)
      1.1 Facts must be reported impartially, accurately and with integrity.
      1.2 Clear distinction must be made between fact, conjecture and comment.
      1.3 Try always to tell all sides of the story in any kind of dispute.
      I feel News ltd journalists and management ‘doth protest too much’  why are you so frightened of being investigated? if nothing’s wrong you will come out with your journalistic reputation enhanced!

    • Erick says:

      09:26am | 16/07/11

      Why don’t we have a government investigation into you, Sandy? If nothing’s wrong, you will come out with your reputation enhanced!

    • Denny Crane says:

      10:27am | 16/07/11

      As long as the ABC and Fairfax are held to the same standards. Mind you that might be a bit much for the left to bear. Imagine if Gillard had to be honest about treasury modelling and it was reported fairly by the ABC. It would send a nervous shiver down the spine of every slimy socialist.

    • Sandy says:

      05:44pm | 16/07/11

      Erick, I am not owned by Rupert Murdoch, unlike maybe yourself?

      I think a resetting of the newspaper industry is what is needed now, many of the people I know are cancelling their subscriptions to newspapers as those newspapers are just peddling their own agendas.
      If the newspapers are losing money now because people are not buying newspapers then they are not going to get people to pay to go behind paywalls.
      The newspapers should treat any enquiry as a chance to reset their agenda’s, get back to basic’s reporting the facts to their customers rather than being agents of regime change for their rich owners. Maybe then they will start to make some money.

    • Andrew says:

      11:08am | 17/07/11

      Sandy, so you hate murdoch, and you think this hatred and jealously means he should be investigated, so if someone decides they hate you they should be able to get the police to investigate you. Actually I think you will find the news ltd papers are doing okay, its the fairfax papers that are struggling, I wonder why, maybe they should try appealing to all sides of the debate not just the left. Exactly what agenda would you like the papers to be reset to, one that suits you and the left I suppose.

    • ZSRenn says:

      09:01am | 16/07/11

      I’m still waiting for an investigation into Rio Tinto in Australia. Stern Hu was not paying the bribes with his own money. Yet not one question has been raised regarding this issue in Australia,

      In fact the opposite has occurred and Rio Tinto has been advising the government on the Mining Tax and Carbon Tax.

      To you Joe please do not take this enquiry personally. I am sure it is just a case of Julia and Bobby finding a new way to waste Tax payer’s money and hopefully distract the debate away from the white elephant Carbon Tax. However in true Gillard style she has failed to take in the consequences of doing so.

    • Diamantina Dick says:

      09:43am | 16/07/11

      Ah, Sturn Hu, the inconvienient David Hicks…..

    • Jim says:

      09:53am | 16/07/11

      Stern Hu was accused of stealing commercial secrets and receiving bribes - not paying bribes. One wonders how someone obtains commercial secrets by receiving bribes…it also came just days after Rio rejected Chinalco’s bid to double it’s stake in Rio.

      So yes ZSRenn - I’m sure Rio would LOVE for an investigation to happen as the whole thing was an obvious set up.

    • ZSRenn says:

      02:43pm | 16/07/11

      Sorry Jim
      I must admit the whole thing went down and I was listening to Chinese media. The way they reported it was that Sturn was paying for favorable concideration of contracts and to get the pricing of other competitors.

      Which makes a whole lot more sense when you think about it and at your own admission. They also reported later that they had saved $100’s of million in the new contracts after the scam had been exposed.

      I guess your going to argue with me know that you would believe the Australian media before the Hong Kong and Chinese media.

    • John the Zombie says:

      09:38pm | 16/07/11

      RSZen so you believe what the Chinese govt says. Just imagine the greens if this was the American govt, the greens would be holding vigils for his release.

      Interesting you forgot the part that was in relation to chinas bid to buy Rio.

    • Joan says:

      09:07am | 16/07/11

      Gillard advice to journos -  `don’t write crap`.  Yes Julia, journos are writing about your Carbon Tax on everything policy and yes we agree your policy is crap.

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      04:11pm | 16/07/11

      Well Joan, just shows to go how much crap they have been writing you stupid woman because you won’t be paying the bloody tax on everything.

      the GST is a tax on everything and adds 6% to everything but fresh food over all.  It is paid from the cradle to the grave dear.  Ever heard of it?

      A price on carbon forces those who pollute the most to pay the most and you get the cash.

      See how easy it is when it is in plain English.

      Unless of course you let your household garbage pile up in the corners and shit in the corner of the lounge rather than let the council take away the garbage and use the loo.

      Honest to god, some in this country get dumber every day and this is the sort of crap peddled by the Murdoch rags to pander to your stupidity.

      Mining in this country is only 8% of GDP, 2% of employment and 90% of pollution.

      Why shouldn’t they pay the most for the mess they make.

    • BobM says:

      06:51pm | 16/07/11

      Cranky’s back! Are you happy about Julia sending 800 of your precious ‘refugees’ to Malaysia, Marilyn?

    • P. says:

      07:34pm | 16/07/11

      To Marilyn Shephard “you stupid woman”.  Do you really believe you are going to be fully compensated.  Everything is going to be going up, one example:  transport costs will be increased because of the tax on fuel for commercial use and this will be passed on to everything that has to be delivered to stores where you purchase goods from and the small amount per year that you will be compensated will nowhere cover the cost of the rise of most products.  At least Howard had the decency to take the GST to the people and he still won.  Some people are so dumb and blind to think that this government can get the figures right, because they have not achieved one sound economic policy in the time they have been in government, only wasted the tax payers money and now they need to recoup and sure up their position by cowtowing to the greens and the treacherous independants. 

      If it wasn’t for the mining industry dear, we would be a third world country but it won’t be long before we realise this outcome if Labour stays in power for too much longer.

    • Joan says:

      11:00am | 17/07/11

      Marilyn Shepherd, The GST is an upfront tax visible to all as we pay it, Gillards Carbon Tax is a sneaky, hidden tax and Gillard makes it mandatory remain hidden as it will be illegal for businesses to claim the carbon tax is causing them to put up prices. No Australians not so dumb as you wish they were, that`s why they are fighting back.

    • Mouse says:

      12:47pm | 17/07/11

      and don’t forget Joan that we don’t know who the big bad 500 are either, so how are we going to “make them pay”?  The fact too that all truck deliveries will cost more, anything that uses electricity to produce will cost more, etc. etc. etc, with the government now saying the companies can’t pass on the costs. What a load of BS! Goodbye Australian industry!!

      Marilyn, I will type slowly so you can keep up… the GST replaced many other little taxes so, in fact, many items became cheaper. Fresh food does not have GST on it, only food that has any processing at all, ie a sandwich. Here is the list that may clarify things for you a bit.  http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/content.aspx?doc=/content/13287.htm
      “A price on carbon forces those who pollute the most to pay the most and you get the cash.” What in God’s name are you talking about? What cash? There will be compensation handouts but they will be set amounts,  irrespective of what you buy or don’t buy, how much electricity you use or don’t use, etc. See how easy it is when it is in plain English.

      As for your claims against mining, where do you get your figures from? Provide links please because I would be very interested in reading them. Mining do pay, they pay taxes, royalties, wages, insurances, workcover, superannuations, electricity, housing and accommodation, food and consumables, etc.  At least with mines Australia gets something back, not like the land that the government has sold to China and other o/s interests.

    • Chris L says:

      02:24pm | 17/07/11

      “At least Howard had the decency to take the GST to the people and he still won.” -

      Gillard did the same thing with the carbon price. If people weren’t paying attention that’s their problem.

      I was paying attention in both cases. I voted against the GST but accept it because that’s how democracy goes. Same with the carbon price, I factored it into my vote yet still have to accept it because that’s how democracy works. Do you only like democracy when your side wins?

    • fox says:

      09:20am | 16/07/11

      Good article.. but you forgot to mention that all the “hate media” ie anything that doesn’t toe the party line, are all privately owned.

      Contrast that to the extreme left wing ABC and The Drum, which every taxpayer funds out of their own pocket whether they want to or not. Doesn’t the ABC have a charter which demands they stay neutral? Why is there only one point of view ever presented.. the extreme left wing point of view? And why the hell should taxpayers continue to fund this leftist propanganda machine?

      It’s time for an inquiry into the extreme bias found in the ABC.

    • GB says:

      12:36pm | 16/07/11

      ^^This^^.
      100% in agreement Fox.

    • Martin Hopes says:

      09:20am | 16/07/11

      Nice one Joe, you’ve asked all the questions and you’ve answered them all so there’s no need for any enquiry, nice work Joe. The media is so squeaky clean in Australia…why the need for an enquiry anyway? I can’t recall one article in the Murdoch press that has ‘not’ been hateful and filled with lies towards the Greens, why Joe? Is it because they backed Gillard and not Abbott? David Penberthy wrote an article on The Punch a few months back which was full of lies, why? What are the Murdoch press afraid of?

      As for the so called promise Gillard made…which ‘promise’ is that Joe? Would that be where Gillard said there would be no carbon tax under a government I lead BUT there would be a price on carbon? As written by Paul Kelly and Dennis Shanahan in The Australian prior to the last election (see link).

      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983

      “win the support of the Greens and enable her to form government” – There’s only one Green in the lower house Joe, it was the independents support that Gillard needed to form government, but don’t mention that hey Joe?

      As for asylum seekers, Gillard found a better solution with Malaysia, did you conveniently forget about that too Joe? Remember, it’s all about ‘stopping the boats’, isn’t it Joe? Well at least that’s what Abbott’s been banging on about Ad nauseam

      If you’ve got nothing to hide then why the worry about an enquiry…what are you really worried about Joe?

    • GB says:

      12:40pm | 16/07/11

      Right back at you with the ABC & Fairfax’s treatment of Abott Martin. For you lefties to cry foul about The Greens/ALP treatment in the Murdoch press is breathtaking in it’s hypocrisy.

    • Steve says:

      01:00pm | 16/07/11

      wow martin, get a clue.

      The greens are more important (and more powerful) than the independents because they have balance of power in the senate.

      Malaysia is a better solution? How? Because labor said so?
      800 for 4000 in return?
      Signatories of UN convention? No
      Agreement in place with Malaysia yet? No
      Stopped the boats so far? No
      Policy on the run? Yes

    • Gregg says:

      01:41pm | 16/07/11

      @Martin
      You hoping most people don’t read too well do you Martin?
      For from that article, you will see
      ” “I don’t rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism,” she said of the next parliament. “I rule out a carbon tax.”

      This is the strongest message Ms Gillard has sent about action on carbon pricing.

      While any carbon price would not be triggered until after the 2013 election, Ms Gillard would have two potential legislative partners next term - the Coalition or the Greens. She would legislate the carbon price next term if sufficient consensus existed. “

      Two things very clear there Martin.
      1. No Carbon Tax
      2. Whatever else would not be implemented until after a 2013 election, meaning it would be put to an election to seek a mandate.

      As for the asylum seekers, we still have no agreement with Malaysia and if a ressurection of TPVs also curtailed the people smuggling, would that not be somewhat simpler and less costly - there having been no details yet announced on for how long Australia will be paying for support in Malaysia of any ASs sent there.

      So yep Martin, don’t go hiding stuff.

    • John the Zombie says:

      01:43pm | 16/07/11

      Martin Hopes you forget the vote agreement between the greens and labor and you also forget to mention that the two independents ran on Liberal and conservative values.

      Do you think the two indepeendents would of got elected if they told thier electorates they would support labor.

    • Martin Hopes says:

      02:26pm | 16/07/11

      Steve @ 12:00pm. With all due respect Steve, it is you who should get a clue.

      Our ruling government is formed in the lower house, without the support of the independents the ALP would not be in power…are you able to comprehend this? Obviously not.

      Legislation is made and tabled in the lower house, the senate is a house of review, nothing more nothing less, they have no ability to legislate, again, do you understand this? Obviously not.

      Nine (9) Green senators out of seventy two (72) and that makes The Greens in your words ‘more important and more powerful’...how does that work Steve? Why don’t you explain that, seeing you have all the clues!

    • Martin Hopes says:

      04:32pm | 16/07/11

      @ Greg

      “I don’t rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism,” she said of the next parliament.

      Isn’t this what she has just done Greg? You’re playing semantics!

    • Jason says:

      05:47pm | 16/07/11

      Martin, yes she must win the support of independent MPs too, however the Carbon Tax was specifically designed to win the support of Greens, NOT independents.

      In any case, shouldn’t a Green Party fan be proud of the party’s key involvement with the Carbon Tax.

      And just to clarify a few of your mistruths… Even Julia has said she reneged on her ‘no Carbon Tax’ promise because there was an opportunity and - as she saw it - a moral imperative with the current government composition.

      And finally, nobody is pretending Malaysia is a better solution. Just nobody. It’s a real car wreck.

    • Mouse says:

      05:56pm | 16/07/11

      Martin, the Greens are more powerful simply because if gillard does not do what Bob wants and loses their vote, she will lose the PM position. They also hold the balance of power in the upper house ensuring that, if gillard is a good girl, she will get any policy through parliament she wants by not blocking it.
      “Significant power is conferred upon the Senate by the Australian Constitution, including the capacity to block legislation initiated by the government in the House of Representatives, making it a distinctive hybrid of British Westminster bicameralism and American-style bicameralism.
      Party discipline in Australian politics is extremely tight, so divisions almost always are decided on party lines. Nevertheless, the existence of minor parties holding the balance of power in the Senate has made divisions in that chamber more important and occasionally more dramatic than in the House of Representatives” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Senate)
      So yep, Steve is pretty spot on with his comments.

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      07:07pm | 16/07/11

      We do not get to send asylum seekers to Malaysia, it is illegal and this is one story where the Daily Telegraph gets a huge nod for going to Malaysia and finding out the truth of what happens to refugees there.

      Channel 7 get a huge nod for a program last week.

      And there are no frigging people smugglers, people are not being smuggled into Australia, they never have been and they don’t need to be because under our law it is legal to arrive without papers and ask for refugee protection.

      Punishment is forbidden yet Australia has never stopped whining about a few thousand people.

      Did you know more people have arrived in Kenya in 3 weeks than have arrived here by sea since 1976 and yet Kenya bowed to pressure to open a newly built camp on the basis that they cannot be sent back.

      Lampedusa has coped with more people in one month than we have had since 1976 and they get them to the mainland for claims to be done or for workers to get home.

      We have just 0.0001% of the world’s refugees yet we waste $500,000 per person to lock them up and abuse them while we are sending just $1 per person for the 11 million Africans in danger of starvation today.

      We don’t get to push away a few thousand people to a place with nearly 250,000 refugees and asylum seekers just because we want to look tough.

      Joe said in one of his more lucid moments a few weeks ago it is about time we grew up and he was right.

    • melle says:

      08:41pm | 16/07/11

      @Marilyn Shephard:  Those arrivals on Lampedusa aren’t staying there, are they.  They’re unwelcome on the island, and they’re being moved on. 
      Arrivals here in Australia stay put.
      They stay put

    • Martin Hopes says:

      09:09pm | 16/07/11

      @ Mouse – So the reality is. The Greens are actually in power because they’re able to pass Labor legislation which is really Green legislation in disguise, therefore Bob Brown is our actual PM except in name…how sweet is that? grin

    • Jim says:

      02:28am | 17/07/11

      “Bob Brown is our actual PM except in name”

      @Martin, that is the biggest political disaster I can imagine. The Greens are an absolute wasteland as far as coherent, workable policies go.

    • Mouse says:

      04:15pm | 17/07/11

      Martin, you have no argument from me about that!  I wonder how much rent Boblet is charging gillard to live in his house? If they made a soapie about this the description you would use would be   “unbelievable”!  :oD

    • john taylor says:

      09:21am | 16/07/11

      Given the shrill demands for ‘proof’ from Erick in other forums could I just ask for some substantive evidence of this ‘agenda’. Or is this further occasion for Erick to demonstrate trademark intellectual dishonesty and assert it is not for him to provide evidence to prove it, but for me to provide evidence to disprove?  For mine an open inquiry into the media is long overdue in this country - particularly vide the apparent ‘cosiness’ of relations betwixt media and politicians- of every stripe. Erick may see it as a threat to free speech. I believe firmly that shining light into dark corners is very good for democracy. And let’s face it I cannot see the conservative side of politics doing anything other than an inquiry - gross and egregious breaches of privacy that occurred in the UK and possibly in the USA by a media organisation with interests in Australia could not be ignored in any sensible or pragmatic way. Also our existing laws prohibit that sort of behaviour so it would be healthy to have assurance that this has not happened here - either wrt politicians, celebs or private citizens. I am not buying Joe’s line on this. First they said it was one reporter. Lie. Then one paper only. Lie. Now they say confined to England. Is there any reason to believe that?  Sorry, whatever the motive a full inquiry will clear the air and the national polity might be better for it. Incidentally the inquiry should not be confined to News Ltd.

    • Disraeli says:

      09:28am | 16/07/11

      This piece, by a professional News Ltd journo, is an outstanding example of exactly why we need such an inquiry.

      Writer’s thumb so firmly on the scales it groans under the weight of its loaded terms and loaded asides, from start to finish.

      But by News/Tele standards still “fit for publication”. Pah.

    • Martin says:

      04:28pm | 16/07/11

      None of this happens at the ABC now does it? Your often quoted bastion of leftism never seeks to distort, surely not? LMAO Disraeli

    • Disraeli says:

      07:20pm | 16/07/11

      We’re on The Punch with a Punch staffer’s article, so - surprise surprise - I chose to comment, here, on just that.

      Gosh! An on-topic post…how original. Pity the subject was such a self-serving, loaded piece but there it is.

      As a free citizen in a free country, when I have a spare moment or two I take part in a number of other online discussions here and overseas; expressing interest, concern, appreciation or criticism depending on how the piece strikes me, and as civilly and even handedly as I can.

      The ABC, The Oz (The Australian, eh) the Tele, (ie the Telegraph), Larvatus Prodeo, and The Punch, among others.

      For the sake of peace and privacy, for each blog I (almost always) choose a different but suitable handle (username, nickname) . I don’t cross-post. Occasionally I’ll mention one blog in passing, when posting on another.

      So sticky-beak Martin can save his vitriol.  For my comments on the ABC, positive and negative,  I use a different nick. My choice and my business.

      See youse.

    • Martin says:

      11:45am | 17/07/11

      Disraeli=Wanker.

    • Disraeli says:

      01:25pm | 17/07/11

      And Good Morning again, indeed.

      What a fine Winter’s day it is, to take part in a well-informed, robust, civil conversation, between free citizens of a fine, free country.

      Buh-byee!

    • CJ Morgan says:

      09:40am | 16/07/11

      Oh, come on Joe.  An independent inquiry into media practices, integrity and ownership is well overdue in Australia.  What are you worried about it uncovering?

      Sir, you doth protest too much, methinks.

    • AdamC says:

      01:32pm | 16/07/11

      “An independent inquiry into media practices, integrity and ownership is well overdue in Australia.”

      Why, because politicians are being criticised? That suggests that the media is doing its job well, This is clearly an attempt to intimidate the press. Only the most uncritical party ack would argue that it isn’t.

    • Bobster says:

      01:17pm | 17/07/11

      Don’t be thick, AdamC.

      It’s because one bloke owns 80% of the papers. If you think that’s healthy then you’ve got your head up your arse.

    • AdamC says:

      02:32pm | 17/07/11

      Yawn, Bobster, News Corp has owned 80% of the nation’s newspapers for ages. You know that, I know that. If anything, the rise of new media means News’ influence has been shrinking for years.

      All that has changed is that this hacking scandal has given the Australian left a chance to indulge its latent totalitarian instincts.

    • Bobster says:

      04:38pm | 17/07/11

      Investigation into media is totalitarian, monopoly is not.

      It’s the communists again, gotcha.

      Amazing how everything that happens in the world is a commie conspiracy.

      I bet Bob Brown is actually behind the entire NOTW scandal and this has all been orchestrated so he can control the op ed pieces in The Oz.

    • AdamC says:

      08:18pm | 17/07/11

      Bobster, smarminess is not a substitute for intellectual substance, as much as you might like to think it is. You are just inviting everyone not to take you seriously.

    • S.L says:

      09:53am | 16/07/11

      Joe 20 years ago a family member died in tragic circumstances. My uncle endured weeks of harrasment by parasites employed by News LTD trying to extract more of a story than there was. He’s no dumbo and never gave in to their late night phone calls or daily door knocks.
      A mate was killed in a road accident in 1994. The next day the Telegraph had his family portrait on the front page. How can that be put under the banner “the public have a right to know.”  All it did was line the Murdoch family coffers with extra sales…........

    • Rose says:

      01:24pm | 16/07/11

      This happened to my aunty as well after a death in her husband’s family. The family were hounded, at times out of their own homes and when they did speak it was edited to completely change the context. The media in this country are a disgrace and need to be held to account.
      We should not allow such concentration of ownership and there should be far higher standards of professional conduct. All media outlets should be held accountable, News Ltd may be the worst, but other outlets come close.

    • BobM says:

      06:54pm | 16/07/11

      Mark Riley, take note!

    • AdamC says:

      09:57am | 16/07/11

      This is a very impressive article. It will be interesting to see how the more narrowly partisan Punch commenters respond to it. Clearly, this is an undemocratic attempt to intimidate the media through a clear abuse of power. Isn’t support for basic democratic principles more important that one-eyed political barracking?

      One criticism of the article, though. The idea that the ETS killed Rudd is wrong, ‘revisionist’ as you say. It was Rudd’s bizarre, mystifying intransigence about the resources super profits tax that did him in. Richo, you may recall, pre-empted the knifing on Q&A, based on the mining tax.

    • Dr B S Goh, Australian in Asia says:

      10:14am | 16/07/11

      At the National Press Club in Canberra two days ago PM said: ‘‘Don’t write crap … Can’t be that hard,’’ she said.
      ‘‘And when you have written complete crap, then I think you should correct it.’‘

      The PM must wake up that she has been conned by Economics hocus pocus on the proposed tax. She should wake up to reality that the proposed carbon tax is a mirage which will evaporate at the time of the next elections.

      It is best for her to call a Referendum on the carp behind the carbon tax for the sake of Australia and her ALP party. Let the people tell the Greens to get lost on the carbon tax. If she is brave to call a Referendum now on the carbon tax and accept the vast majority’s of Australia on this issue she would be seen as a hero and win the next election. The Greens have boxed her party into a suicide corner for the next election.

      The annual increases of CO2 emission in China and India are greater than the annual total CO2 emission in Australia. Google it and you can find charts which show that Australia share of global absolute CO2 emission will decrease even if Australia does NOTHING to reduce CO2 emission in Australia for the next 30 years because of the fast growing economies in China and India plus their population growth. India just added 180,000,000 people in the last ten years, China 73.9m. China is now the no 1 global market for cars and soon the no of vehicles sold a year will be 100,000,000.

      If the PM and ALP are serious about fighting global warming, which I believe as a scientist, then they must focus on helping our trading partners reduce their CO2 emission. They are many opportunities to do so. Australia CO2 emission is insignificant given the huge uncertainties in modeling climate changes.

      India gets 2.5% of its electricity from Nuclear Energy and 70% from coal. India wants to increase its electricity from Nuclear Energy to more than 25%. India is short of uranium and coal. France gets 80% of its electricity from Nuclear Energy and shows it can be done safely.

      By lifting the embargo on uranium sale to India we can help India reduce its annual CO2 emission by an amount which is many times the annual total CO2 emission in Australia. The Greens and some ALP leaders are against this effective Win-Win action to fight global warming.

    • eda says:

      10:17am | 16/07/11

      Milly Dowler’s revenge on News Corp.

      The King is dead.
      Long live the King.

    • Holly says:

      10:18am | 16/07/11

      I saw you on the Drum this week and you lost any shred of respect I still held for you after Q and A.  You came across as arrogant and self serving - a loud mouth full of his own impotence.  When I saw the three tenets of the News Ltd code of conduct I could only laugh - what a joke.  Look it’s very easy to be glib and jokey - covers up the fact that you cant be bothered to research things properly.  The Oz was caught in its lies when they totally misled us about Gail Kelly’s views on a Carbon Price.  Was there a retraction - no.  How many other of their headlines are just as misleading.  They rely on the fact that about 50% of people who look at newspapers barely read past the headline, and many headlines bear scant relationship to what is in buried in the articles.

      So you think it is OK for Tony Abbott to escape scrutiny both during the election campaign and now again while he is scaremongering and talking the economy down.  You think it is OK for a man who is looking for a new election stutters and stumbles around and cannot even articulate his own policy on carbon abatement let alone explain its costings.  You think it is OK for Tony Abbott to lie about the future of Queensland coal industry and for this not be reported.
      You think it is OK for a person who aspires to be our next PM to march into workplaces up and down the country frightening workers and their families, and the media reporting on these performances not asking one question about the veracity of what he was saying.  Somehow it is OK for him to lie as much as he pleases to gain his prize and we should not be offended. 

      That I’m sure is just some of the “crap” Prime Minister Gillard was referring to.

      So you think it is OK for radio “personalities” to indulge in outrageously irrational conduct, encouraging callers who are threatening physical harm to the Prime Minister, when they are not migrant and refugee bashing.

      There is something very sick about current media behaviour.  It seems to mirror the increasingly superficial way in which society communicates generally.  A clever tweet gets more kudos than a well thought out and argued article.

      Might I just also note in this article you are misleading us regarding Julia Gillard’s comments re a possible media enquiry.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      12:08pm | 16/07/11

      And, I think he doth protest too much - in a Shakespearian sort of way.

      “The spot - remove the spot! . . . . . Who? Me? i didn’t do anything.”

    • GB says:

      12:46pm | 16/07/11

      Give it a rest Holly. Your shrill hysteria and blatant disregard of anything closely resembling the truth are becoming tiresome. We all know you’re a Labor staffer with way too much time on her hands so invent a new handle and try again. You make persephone sound rational.

    • Joan says:

      01:12pm | 16/07/11

      Its pretty schizo to slam a great big carbon tax on everything on a nation that only contributes 1.5% worlds emissions and yet sells ship loads of coal to fuel coal fired power stations in the rest of the world. Giilard makes our citzens power bills soar while giving rest of world cheap power. That does not make any sense. Gillard carbon Tax on everything will not change the weather and the media has every right to point this out.

    • John A Neve says:

      01:34pm | 16/07/11

      Joan,
      “It’s pretty schizo” for you to try and connect a “carbon tax” to an inquiry into journalism!
      Tell us, can you only hold one thought at a time?

    • John the Zombie says:

      01:53pm | 16/07/11

      Holly just wondering, if joe had agreeded with you and said yep the tax is good, that a investigaton should be done into news organisations and that we will not write anything negative against the Gillard govt would then say wa really good.

      Also note if this week on the 7pm project a comment is made against what Gillard wears, such as the comment made against Abotts Buggies will you be up in arms and calling Abbott a sexist yet Gillard and the 7pm Project can make fun of what Abott wears and its ok. Note Ironmen and swimmers wear bugies as well.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      02:09pm | 16/07/11

      Holly the voodoo doll isn’t giving you what you want? It is because you are in a trance, “love Julia Gillard more without asking questions” every time you rely on it.

      I also watched Joe on the The Drum and I was proud to see a fellow Australian stick up for the newspaper he works for and for his job as a journalist. Joe was a champion!

      The only inquiry we should have is one on why was our PM nearly in tears at the Press Club when making her speech? The saying goes if leaders start feeling sorry for themselves and cry in public it is time for them to say goodbye. They have become useless to the nation and its people and time for them to go and seek help for themselves.

    • Martin says:

      02:24pm | 16/07/11

      Typical rant from a Laborite not getting their way. Maybe the media , talk back et al are just mirroring public sentiment?  Too many polls showing dreadful lack of support for this carbon tax.

    • Freeman says:

      10:43am | 16/07/11

      The sydney morning herald is the only friend the ALP has left in NSW. even the ABC seems to be indifferent toward them since rudd dumped the ETS.

    • Trevor says:

      01:48pm | 17/07/11

      No shit? Hence the need for review idiot.You think the other papers support the liberal agenda because of good policies?

    • Bob says:

      10:46am | 16/07/11

      Surprised PM Bob was not demanding that the Govt take over ownership of the Media.

    • Occam's Blunt Razor says:

      10:55am | 16/07/11

      OK - this is serious - who’s got Joe?

      My CSI forensic examination tells me he couldn’t write such a seriously good article, could he?

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      02:49pm | 16/07/11

      Excellent retort and I love your name!

    • jb says:

      10:57am | 16/07/11

      Just of to buy myself a grey Tunic, can I pick one up for anyone?

    • CJN says:

      10:59am | 16/07/11

      “This absurd logic is the equivalent of police officers walking up to random people in the street and forcing them to prove they are not criminals”.
      Truly, what draconian state would impose such a measure? Well unfortunately Joe this happens each and everyday in Australia as police routinely check the blood alcohol level of road users, so I have to flatly accept your logic there. 
      The PM said she was open to an inquiry into the practice of Australian journalism: yeah it’s something that could happen but it’s just as likely not to was about all I gained from her statement at the PG. There was no knee-jerk call to arms to tear down the Australian branch of news limited.
      So somehow this article seems diproportinate in its vitriol towards the PM givent the lack of commitment to any such inquiry.

    • JohnB says:

      10:59am | 16/07/11

      Given we have ended up with the worst government in the western world. Maybe some blame does lie in the media.

      Having said that, if it’s Brown and Gillards idea; I’m against it.

    • Gerard says:

      10:19pm | 16/07/11

      Australia has both the government and media is deserves. The media can have no influence on the public if people choose cynical about what they read. Australians choose to be gullible and shallow; that is why the newspapers are full of lies and puff pieces and why the government is full of malice and empty promises.

    • Davis says:

      11:06am | 16/07/11

      The way in which the Murdoch press has been strategically framing and positioning its copy in a way that attempts to cover-up and minimise the News of the World saga is so painful to watch.

      That it takes something as huge as this to give politicians the courage to speak out against big media only begins to show the power NewsCorp and its subsidiaries exert over the democratic process. Australian politicians have previously relaxed media ownership laws in return for favourable coverage, its well studied phenomenon, and a very negative development for democracy.

      ‘Free speech’ is being able to say whatever you want. This is certainly not the case at most media outlets, particularly NewsCorp/LTD.

      Sure, this comment will probably be published, and NewsLTD sycophants will undoubtedly point to this as rock solid evidence that free speech is thriving. But I can hardly imagine opinions such as these landing on prime NewsLTD editorial space.

      NewsCorp is a pox on democracy. The sooner it hangs itself, the better.

    • Gregg says:

      11:25am | 16/07/11

      Joe, Joe, Have you got a secret safe house for
      ” Do they have any evidence of phone tapping here? No !!!!! “
      But Joe, the Hilde Brand Files, the ” Crappy ” movie we should all see and I reckon that motherly looking figure asking about the Lie has a passing resemblance too!

      You know that chant that echoes around the MCG ” Who’s going home in the back of a paddy wagon! “
      We don’t want to miss you Joe for having been dragged off in the PJs by people you’d not want to really know to somewhere known not.

      ” In fact, as is well known to all in politics and the media, the halcyon days of the Labor Government ended because Rudd abandoned the emissions trading scheme at the urging of Gillard and others.

      After Rudd plummeted in the polls for taking this woeful advice, the same people who advised him then knifed him in an unprecedented palace coup that was shocking to and deeply unpopular with the public and remains so to this day.”
      Joe, is it really a witch that makes pacts with demons and the devil himself re-incarnated, for if so I would be very very worried!
      They might have planned it all some dark night but we know as a Knight of the Honorable order you’ll take up from where Harry has left off to be our Shining Light of all things great we should expect.

    • Gregg says:

      11:38am | 16/07/11

      Gillard and Brown might reckon there’s a case for a big brother look over the media but that guy who we all know looking over PM Bob’s right shoulder looks none two happy!
      A penny and not Wong for his thoughts [ about what type of knife to use is it? ] !

    • gordie says:

      02:57pm | 16/07/11

      maybe it could be chopsticks

    • Zaf says:

      11:40am | 16/07/11

      [it’s a tad chilling when a Prime Minister instructs reporters not to “write crap” in the middle of a debate about a new regulatory framework to govern the media.]

      Well it certainly seems like it would cramp News Ltd’s style.

      The sleeper issue here is truth in reporting, and how failing to keep to that standard will be dealt with.  If the watchdog has teeth, we’ll be having a very different conversation about issues like the super profits tax (based on, fancy that, facts). 

      New Ltd can still oppose anything it wants, of course, but it will not longer be able to systematically mislead. That’s probably good for public debate and for Australia.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      11:47am | 16/07/11

      I think that the “media” is losing it’s credibility all on its own and an inquiry is a waste of time and effort.

      The print journalists (like yourself) that appear on TV panel shows, like the Drum and QandA, and grin like idiots while others express their well considered points of view, demonstrate on their own their biases and predjudices.

      Even worse, is when they think they’re funny- and they aren’t.

    • MarK says:

      11:53am | 16/07/11

      Mark Riley

      ““I think a few of us have been reflecting ... on our responsibilities,” Riley said.

      “When we see a gentleman in Gladstone trying to encourage people to take up arms against the Government, a woman in Melbourne being shoved out of a public meeting and harassed down the street to tears, you are confronted in a shopping centre by people screaming and Liberal Party members calling you liar, and then a radio station coming here and broadcasting all day on the first day back of Parliament to whip climate change opposers into a frenzy.

      “How do you see our responsibility and the way that we should be reporting this matter?”

      Yeh. The media are really bad and mean.

      What a pathetic excuse for media we have in this country. Less opinion more reporting.

      Oh and if Riley could actually add some facts to his lament it would be awesome.

      The gallery that gathered clapped as well to this and to Lenore Taylors moan.

      I mean really?

      Who exactly wants Brown to be able to censor the press or have him decide who should own it.

      it is the thin edge of the wedge.

      Nice photo to the story. Emphasises the subservience of Gillard to the Greens.

    • Holly says:

      12:13pm | 16/07/11

      Can I say again for the benefit of you and your readers and perhaps so you can issue a correction Joe - I have not seen any evidence that Prime Minister Gillard has asked for an enquiry into the media.  Bob Brown, has and based on the the Australian editorial quoted above I think he has every reason to do so.

    • Martin says:

      04:42pm | 16/07/11

      Bullshit, Brown’s just attempting to close down critical comments of this carbon tax proposal. He wants freedom of speech for himself and his cohorts bur everyone else can go jump in the lake. He’s been ranting about The Australian and The Daily Telegraph because he doesn’t like his own policy positions questioned. It is perfectly acceptable for these papers to take a converse position to Brown’s if they believe he is wrong. It’s just as well they do, otherwise it would be just the ABC, SMH etc pushing the Left wing wheel barrow brainwashing everyone into submission.

    • Jim (remember him?) says:

      12:14pm | 16/07/11

      I get the impression we being asked to choose between Australian journalists and Brown/Gillard.

      Is there a “neither” box we can tick?

    • Ruth Ostrow says:

      12:22pm | 16/07/11

      Great piece Jo. And after the latest parliamentary inquiry into the media, I think there should be an expensive and time consuming parliamentary inquiry into parliamentary inquiries. We need to waste more money so there isn’t a surplus to give to hospitals, schools and for our infrastructure.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      12:24pm | 16/07/11

      A suggestion for this articles headline:

      Puppet Defends Hand Up @rse.

    • gordie says:

      04:27pm | 16/07/11

      thats got to be one hell of a big hand

    • john Smythe says:

      12:28pm | 16/07/11

      No offense to old mate Retired Soldier, or countless Australians who have fought and died for our country, but the Australian flag has been lowered. In its place, now flies the Southern Cross flag.

      This joke of a government, has gone too far! Rise up I say, rise up! smile

      Distractionary tactics, and abuse of power. To what do they base the inquiry upon? New Lmt should allow it (as long as it remains as inquiry only!) just to further prove these fools wrong.

    • John the Zombie says:

      01:56pm | 16/07/11

      john Smythe no offence as it came out yesterday the company that produces our defence uniforms was sold to a foreign company and that navy uniforms with Australia on the badge were spelt with a LL. This has only occured since labor was in power.

      Remeber how they tried to send the making of the Diggers hat overseas

    • katea says:

      12:29pm | 16/07/11

      Queensland Courier Mail - no mention of the Murdoch media saga at all !!!

    • stephen says:

      03:03pm | 16/07/11

      That’s because it’s a Tabloid and seeing as how tabloids, as you know, are busy paying pimps and crooked cops for information that nobody ever gets to read about, (and what possible information could be gleaned from a 9/11 victim ?) then why would The Courier bother its readers with stories that would, to put it bluntly, dumb down their already rock-bottom IQs’ ?

    • Editor says:

      03:53pm | 16/07/11

      yeah but look at how Climategate was covered in the media? Where was the stories in the first few weeks?

    • Wazmac says:

      12:31pm | 16/07/11

      I read the opening lines of this piece and then spent the next 10 minutes rolling around on the ground with laughter!! You finally managed to write a genuinely hilarious article - even if it was completely unintentional. But when it comes to being cynical, manipulative and transparently biased I have three words for you Joe: Pot.Kettle.Black.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      12:31pm | 16/07/11

      How about we have an inquiry into the way Get Up brainwashs people into bullying to get what they want. How about an inquiry into that Green’s woman Lee Rihanna communist past etc etc

      Watch it folks, all Gillard & Bob Browne lovers will use anything to blame the poor ratings in the Polls and the fact the majority is demanding the end of this Gillard NOnothing Govt.

    • Martin says:

      02:33pm | 16/07/11

      Well said Rosie, Get Up is one of my pet hates.  They apparantly received nearly 1 million dollars from the union movement before the last election to run advertising campaigns. Independant, yeah right. I think a lot of people have woken up to their little scam and now see them for what they are which is just on another incognito arm of the Labor party.

    • Martin Hopes says:

      11:30pm | 16/07/11

      Rosie & Martin are both full of ‘it’

      GetUp is an organisation made up of concerned citizens Australia wide who don’t mind dipping into their pockets to back a cause that they may be interested in. That’s the basic difference between the conservative right and that of the left…conservatives don’t have an organisation liker GetUp because they’re too miserable to put their hands into their very long pockets.

      FYI, GetUp has campaigned heavily against many ALP pieces of legislation and they have lobbied the ALP for policy that should be acted on, so to suggest that they are an arm of the ALP or are brainwashing people is absolute crap.

      We don’t donate money to the LNP like the tobacco companies do therefore we are communists, go figure!

    • Sony B Goode says:

      11:51pm | 16/07/11

      Concerned citizens, bleeding hearts and do-gooders who are suckers for the lies and deceit of the lefts noble aims of destroying prosperity.

      But how can you blame them, it actually requires a bit of systems thinking to realise the left is a hallucinatory fantasy.

    • Dave says:

      01:15am | 17/07/11

      @Martin Hopes - the problem with leftists like you is that you haven’t learnt from the past mistakes of left-wing totalitarian regimes like those of communist China, Russia, Vietnam and north Korea.

      People like you want to dictate how others should think and don’t tolerate alternative points of view.

      BTW thanks for admitting that getup is a leftist organisation. Everyone knew that, but it’s nice to see some confirmation.

    • poa says:

      12:42pm | 16/07/11

      Gillard and Brown demand the same standard of brown collar journalism from everyone.
      The sort that turns kissing ALP backside into an extreme sport.
      This is seizing control of Australia’s right to think and protest.
      And thats disgusting.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      12:49pm | 16/07/11

      Talk, ooops, write about political opportunists!
      Bob Brown, in particular is nothing if not that & Jools runs a close second!
      “The media!, let’s attack the media”! Politicians have been doing so for years & until the scandal rocking the industry in the UK here in Australia it was almost entirely restricted to the Government-of-the-Day - Coalition or ALP or even those silly Greens who think they should be or now are, attacking the ABC for bias. Poor Old Auntie can’t win. Why? Because she brings the news without the spin!
      The print media has always taken sides when it comes to politics & particularly so at the run-up to elections. The media is the epitome of a Swinging Voter for they don’t always support the same Party at every election. That is how it should be. Let’s face it the only way the public find out anything is by reading the papers for all of our politicians lock themselves away, never to be seen & expect us to blindly vote for them. There is no door-knocking, no public appearances other than those closed door, invitation only ones put on eclusively for the Party Faithful.
      Our local media, since the demise of the old Truth, does not generally indulge in muck-raking & the blatant invasion of people’s privacy as it appears has happened in the UK.
      Isn’t the media also known as “The Fourth Estate”- I’m not quite sure what the other three are but it matters not - Someone, I think, but stand ready to be corrected,  it may even have been - wait for it - a Politician - referred to Journalism as “That noble profession” - for it seeks out the truth & is not afraid to expose the lies, deceits & perfidy of politicians & other low-life.
      There is no evidence to think that the British Disease has infected the Australian Media.
      Bob Brown is simply grand-standing & pouring his venom onto an Australian media organisation which does not support his & his party’s airy-fairy, unachievable, over the top policies & which is quite prepared to expose the Green’s stand-over tactics - such as those Julia Gillard has admitted they did with regard to the C02 Tax.

    • Rod worried says:

      01:05pm | 16/07/11

      I’d love to see the same set of standards and scrutiny that Brown and Gillard are demanding from the media applied to the campaigning material sent out during the election campaign. How anyone can make an informed decision based on that crap is beyond me. They should really be held accountable for claims and promises made and regulations set for the quality and quantity of information supplied on their policies, rather then glossy pictures of MP’s wearing hardhats

    • Wayne says:

      01:13pm | 16/07/11

      Labor probably interprets anything that is different or unfavourable from their own views to be crap. This gives the impression of being a veiled threat to suppress views different to their own. This carbon tax policy is so bad and the majority have seen through it. With the electronic media today, views can be expressed and be read more widely than has been possible in the past. Therefore policies and ideas have a greater number of people expressing their views and readers are then able to be more informed of the negatives of policies which the government will never willfully expose (or perhaps never thought of). The days of us having the wool pulled over our eyes with the government telling us only what they want us to hear are over (except I do worry about possible internet filtering to suppress dissenting views and veiled threats against the media).

    • The Badger says:

      01:19pm | 16/07/11

      So Joe, is this the “official” Telegraph response to the rotten mess that is New Ltd or just your personal attempt to deflect and deny?

      You say “Both leaders are seeking to establish a connection in the public’s mind between the obscene and illegal practices exposed in the UK and perfectly conventional and legitimate journalism and commentary in Australia with which they just happen to disagree.”
      That’s not what they are trying to do and you know it, but if there have been obscene and illegal practices sure, let’s flush them out. This is about ethics in journalism Joe, this is about the Fourth estate – You have heard of the fourth estate haven’t you? By the way, your portrayal of News ltd hacks as providing “perfectly conventional and legitimate journalism and commentary in Australia” made me laugh.

      It’s interesting that you can speak for all the activities that News Ltd and its employees have gone about in the past decade and declare Australian journalists’ have “not engaged in dirty and unscrupulous practices and generally been fairly decent types” Oh Joe, how nice of you to say so. Been the official watchdog of journalists for the past decade have you? You do know that the press in Australia is self regulating don’t you? We’re a good bunch, if we do say so ourselves.

      Political journalism is supposed to be, as another of Murdoch’s mouthpieces Fox news reminds us fair and balanced thing. You may not have done an ethics in journalism course and just found yourself in your current position, but you should know that the Fourth estate is supposed to act in the national interest.
      Acting in the national interest implies that you provide a fair and balanced coverage of the news. In the context of journalism, fairness means reporters covering a story must remember there are 2 or more sides to most issues. These different viewpoints should be of equal space in any news story. Have a look at the “crap” put out by, oh say the Telegraph and get back to me on this OK?

      News Limited and Fairfax control 88 percent of the media in Australia. Having that much power in the hands of two organisations with News Limited being the dominant one is always going to be dangerous if they only are serving the political agenda of their owners in pursuit of business interests. Is this the case? Time may tell.
      “it’s a tad chilling when a Prime Minister instructs reporters not to “write crap” in the middle of a debate about a new regulatory framework” No Joe, it make sense that in the middle of one of the most important debates this country has ever experienced we get good journalism, not crap. We get balanced stories and thoughtful analysis of both sides of the debate. What is chilling is the blatant one sided view of the Murdoch media.

      Last year I searched the News Ltd. websites looking for information about ethics in journalism at the company after I noticed more and more “news” stories being presented with a one sided conservative view or worse still, blatant opinion sitting in the middle of a “news” story in the news section of the paper and clearly not labelled as opinion. There was nothing on offer to the public.
      Mysteriously, after this volcano erupted in Britain, they have now posted a link to the company’s professional conduct policy.
      The first three articles are these:
      1.1 Facts must be reported impartially, accurately and with integrity.
      1.2 Clear distinction must be made between fact, conjecture and comment.
      1.3 Try always to tell all sides of the story in any kind of dispute.
      I as well as many others, Johnathan Holmes included would argue that all three are being breached every day just now by at least some of News Ltd’s newspapers as they cover one of the most crucial political debates of this young century.
      As for your paymasters titles Joe, for many of us, they have already lost all credibility.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      04:37pm | 16/07/11

      The Badger The Harass

      Oh for the Badgers of this world that just love harassing and can’t see anything positive in everything they read.

      Gosh it must have taken you all morning to write such a colourful post in which it took me 1 second to skim through and know its contents because of your predictability.

      It is the nature of the beast (oooops badger) to criticize what is hurting them and in your case because of Joe’s heading “Gillard & Brown are shooting the messenger” you had to somehow save the backsides of Gillard & Brown. Load of rubbish The Badger The Harass! Take it back into your hole and use it to sponge up your bedding for a good lie down after taking your heartache pills! You are acting like Malcolm Turnbull, the more obvious Gillard is finished the more heart broken Turnbull is.

    • c.conservative says:

      05:34pm | 16/07/11

      “stories with a one-sided conservative view or worse…....”.
      “what is chilling is the blatant one-sided view of the Murdoch media”.
      Look, this is overwrought.
      You’ve previously declared your hatred of conservatives ........... so I say -  You Would Say This!

      “Chilling” is Bob Brown, who’s had an easy ride up until now.

    • Against the Man says:

      09:51am | 17/07/11

      But haven’t your paymasters (The ALP) lost all credibility too Mr Badger?

    • JohnB says:

      01:22pm | 16/07/11

      Yep, I think the media should all be like QandA. A pathetic, limp, jovial, self interested and biased Labor advocate.

    • c.conserv. says:

      01:23pm | 16/07/11

      Brown looks just like an old parson.  He could’ve stepped out of a Jane Austen novel.

    • Sane Person says:

      01:47pm | 16/07/11

      Bob Brown of course fails to mention that one of the people arrested was in fact a Spin Agent for CRU East Anglia’s Climategate shemozzle. So it’s ok for the Warmists to use the services of these charlatons and phreaks (phone hackers) but not a newspaper. We should have two flags in Australia as King Bob Brown salutes the double standard.

    • Chris L says:

      01:56pm | 16/07/11

      Joe, as many Howard supporters were saying as he chipped away at our freedoms “If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear”.

      Personally I still think that’s BS but if you didn’t speak up then you shouldn’t be so offended now.

      People have been claiming the media has a left wing bias for years. Many claim that labor were only elected the last two times because of the media. They cannot now howl about the media being investigated at the instigation of labor. After all, that would be hypocrisy.

    • Ben81 says:

      02:07pm | 16/07/11

      Gillard / Brown (interchangeable on this one):  We are going to impose a carbon dioxide tax nobody voted for and refuse to give anyone a chance to have a say, and block any opposition to it in the senate even if the opposition wins a mandate at the next election.  We must do it to fight dangerous climate change.

      Joe pubic / non apologist media: What actual effect will this have on climate change that justifies it?

      Gillard / Brown:  Hate media!  Stop writing crap!  I’m not playing the Andrew Bolt game!  We need an enquiry!

    • Chris L says:

      05:08pm | 16/07/11

      You must have mistaken this article for one that has something to do with the carbon price.

    • c.conservative says:

      06:50pm | 16/07/11

      @Ben81

      That was really good

    • Ben81 says:

      07:03pm | 16/07/11

      Uh, no Chris.  Sorry i didn’t realise i wasn’t able to use an example to illustrate that the attacks on the media are sad and desperate.

    • Chris L says:

      01:00pm | 17/07/11

      @Ben81 - How about continuing to say that nobody voted for the carbon price? Can I describe that as sad and desperate? After all, I’ve already demonstrated that Labor went to the election with a carbon price in mind. That kinda means we voted for it doesn’t it?

      Now, after years of complaining of “media bias” the conservatives are now leaping to the defence of our MSM against the tyranny of an investigation. Ridiculous!

    • Martin says:

      01:33pm | 17/07/11

      @ChrisL. for the umpteenth time “No Carbon Tax under the government I lead”  How can you say we knew they went to election with a carbon tax in mind? I am sorry, but only deluded Labor crust-ons could believe such nonsense. Seek help.

    • TimB says:

      01:39pm | 17/07/11

      “I’ve already demonstrated that Labor went to the election with a carbon price in mind”

      I’m not saying you didn’t but I missed that. So perhaps you can fill me in on some details in what you said:

      Did you include the fact that Gillard conceeded the need for a consensus to be reached first?
      Did you include the fact that the under Gillard’s original plan, the question wasn’t even due to be revisited until 2012 with the legislation to be developed, then taken to the next election?
      Did you include the fact that Gillard urged Kevin to drop the ETS last year when it was clear that the issue was killing him?


      Because if you *didn’t* include any of those facts in your argument, then you’ve completely missed *why* what she’s doing now is so different to what was promised during the election campaign.

      And as such you’ve completely ignored the reasons as to why the media are holding Gillard to account. She lied. She has spun, backflipped and evaded. And the media are doing their job in shining the light on her behaviour.

      And bitching at the media for highlighting problems of her own making isn;t going to help her cause.

    • Chris L says:

      02:02pm | 17/07/11

      @Martin - For the umpteenth time that clip was cut mid sentence. Gillard said there would be a carbon price on more than one occassion. If you missed it, or didn’t understand, that doesn’t invalidate her mandate.

    • Ben81 says:

      02:20pm | 17/07/11

      I didn’t vote for one Chris, and people who voted Labor were explicitly told it had been ruled out if their choice came out the winner too. 
      Suggesting otherwise before the election was a “hysterical allegation”, remember?  It had been ruled out, remember?  I’m not sure why you’re again trying to convince me that 2 + 2 = 5

    • Mouse says:

      05:03pm | 17/07/11

      Chris L I think the major problem here is that some people are confusing a carbon tax and a carbon price (or ETS)  They are two different things, one decreases pollution and the other raises capital. gillard and Swan have said, quite adamantly, that there would be no carbon tax during the first term of their government if they win the next election.
      “Julia Gillard has said there will be no tax on carbon while she leads the federal government.
      The Deputy Prime Minister, Wayne Swan, said last week that if Labor won the election there would be no carbon tax during its three-year term.
      Ms Gillard seemed to go a step further yesterday. ‘‘There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead,’’ she told Network Ten. ‘‘What we will do is we will tackle the challenge of climate change.’‘
      http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/climate/gillard-rules-out-imposing-carbon-tax-20100816-1270b.html#ixzz1SL2C9vmu
      http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/climate/gillard-rules-out-imposing-carbon-tax-20100816-1270b.html
      The bit you are talking about Chris L is the fact that gillard said that she would look at a carbon price (ETS)  and yes she did, but she also stated in the same breath that there would be no carbon tax.

      “I don’t rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism,” she said of the next parliament. “I rule out a carbon tax.”
      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983
      The CPRS btw was the thing she wanted Rudd to drop because she thought that they would lose the election over it and was the main reason she knifed him. She also stated that a carbon price would be put to a citizen’s assembly and, if there was a concesus, it would be brought to the 2013 election.  So the elction went ahead with the full understanding that there would be no carbon tax with a Labor government. In other words, gillard had NO mandate.
      She is now trying to muddy the waters by calling the tax a “price”, knowing full well that they are NOT the same thing.
      That is why Chris L you are getting such a backlash for your comments!

    • Chris L says:

      05:32pm | 17/07/11

      Fair enough TimB. At least you’re using actual facts in your debate. I don’t have much of an answer except that circumstances and viewpoints change. Like when “never ever” turned out to be “not until next election” and how “why not just make it a tax” ended up being “a great, big, new tax on everything”. It’s something I’ve come to expect from politicians.

      As for the carbon price not being revisted until 2012 there is one point from the article I’ve been linking that made me think otherwise when I turned up to vote:

      “the Prime Minister revealed she would view victory tomorrow as a mandate for a carbon price”

      Not sure what opinion other people had, or how they came to it, but the fact is there is no lie here except in how the Coalition is trying to portray these events.

    • Ben81 says:

      06:17pm | 17/07/11

      “At least you’re using actual facts in your debate”
      Yes because verbatim quotes from Gillard and Swan during the election campaign aren’t “actual facts”, and her talking about pricing in relation to an ETS on the eve of the election, even after ***once again ruling out the tax***, means she has a mandate to introduce that tax she promised not to introduce.
      Just look at yourself, this is what you actually believe!

    • michael j says:

      02:14pm | 16/07/11

      @ Smoking Joe-are you fuc-ing kidding an inquiry into what , don’t they have to have some evidence of a crime first ,who is going to be inquested ,,
      don’t these idiots we elected ( irony ) know that this country is finally in the grip of GFC and going downhill fast ,the strain on pensioners is becoming intolerable ,and these pricks we pay huge wages n pensions to are wasting money on nothing again, unless Carbon Bob & Paul i am betterra head the inquiry how will we know everyone is not telling lies anyway,it’s not like killing a cow ,they don’t talk, cept in my nightmares, fuc- it the sooner the whole population of this planet is micro-chipped with audio the safer we will be,,,

    • Chris L says:

      03:52pm | 16/07/11

      If a crime happens but there’s no evidence of who is involved the ensuing enquiry will cover multiple suspects. The very purpose of the enquiry is to discover if there is any evidence. I don’t see the logic of opposing an investigation on the grounds that the potential results of the investigation are not in hand.

    • Matt says:

      12:05am | 17/07/11

      Where is the crime Chris L? Should the police be able to search you and your premises to make sure you don’t have any elicit substances present? Or any other laws broken?

      I don’t see the logic of endorsing an investigation on the grounds that someone in another country has committed a crime.

    • michael j says:

      03:48am | 17/07/11

      has someone made allegation of a crime ( evidence )  ?

    • Chris L says:

      11:12am | 17/07/11

      Allegations do not require evidence. Wrong doing has occurred and has damaged the already crumbling credibility of the journalist profession.

      Charging and convicting a person does require evidence. This may explain why these two actions have not occured (at least, not so far).

    • Matt says:

      01:38pm | 17/07/11

      Well then Chris L, how about I allege that you have committed a string of armed robberies, that you frequently traffic in narcotics, your car is unregistered and that you have been engaged in tax evasion. Are you happy to open your doors and be comprehensively investigated simply because I have made an allegation against you? Is that how you think our legal system is supposed to work?

      I suppose the Greens don’t think much of the term “innocent until proven guilty”.

    • Trevor says:

      01:59pm | 17/07/11

      The crime was committed in another jurisdiction by the very entity that owns 70% of the Australian media! Of course we should all be suspicious. Sheesh…

    • Chris L says:

      06:09pm | 17/07/11

      @Matt - Get yourself a warrant and you’ll be in business.

    • Julia Gillard's fake eyelashes says:

      02:15pm | 16/07/11

      After Gillard’s National Press Club speech demanding that the press stop writing crap (and some of the patronising press applauding her ridiculous self-righteous statement) I’m wondering if Gillard and Browstartn continue domineering our population, Australia will be the new North Korea of the South Pacific.

    • c.conservative says:

      05:00pm | 16/07/11

      @Julia G’s fake fringes,  your moniker makes me laugh.

    • stephen says:

      02:55pm | 16/07/11

      Bob Brown wants an enquiry because he doesn’t want any newspapers writing about The Greens at all.
      He thinks that any Editorial with an opinion is bias, and of course a party such as The Greens, who can only get mandates by forbidding everyone else positive and forthright actions, can really only get a positive from a negative, as in ...‘I told you so’... ; thus, an editor, scrambling to find a good from a re-action, can only mention in passing that Bob is a secret deal-maker, and should be distrusted.
      And I smell a deal with Labor for this enquiry, too.
      Problem is, (quite apart from the injuries done to free speech, here) Labor has offered what for a lie down ?

    • Hazel says:

      02:57pm | 16/07/11

      Well done, Joe, this is a great article which you have written with superb clarity. I agree one hundred per cent with your assessment. Just wish we had a mechansim for getting rid of this disastrous government before they succeed in doing lasting damage to the Australian economy.

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      02:57pm | 16/07/11

      Why is it that whenever the Labor Government is in the doldrums (and dramatically so at this moment in time) that they never, ever, seek to look to themselves to see if they are responsible for the mess they find themselves in?  They *always* seek to lay blame anywhere else but themselves.  The suggestion of a need for an inquiry into the media is nothing more than a publicity beat up as far as I am concerned and it is being suggested as a distraction from their own woes.  Time and again in recent political history they have done the same - talk about deja vu!  A well written article by Joe here.  Well said, Joe, I am for you sir.

    • DC says:

      03:16pm | 16/07/11

      Who do you work for Joe?

      How about you take the reasons for this inquiry to your boss that allowed the criminal activities of the British “press” to take place in the first place and ask him for an explanation as to why it occurred in the first place?

      I bet you won’t.

      Ultimately, if you’ve got nothing to worry about, you’ve got nothing to hide.

      But seriously - take it up with your boss and see what kind of reaction you get.

      I suspect you won’t have a job for very long.

    • Martin says:

      05:02pm | 16/07/11

      DC Do you have any evidence of any wrong doing in Australia? Have you seen anything reported to this effect?  No, there is nothing is there.  Your childish Labor/Green rantings don’t hide the fact that Brown’s demand is based on his own needs, because he hates being under scrutiny. He’s simply attempting to bring political pressure to bare on journo’s that do not argee with his position on this carbon tax.. He himself wants to kill free speech because it is doing his argument harm, as they are exposing the shortfalls of this tax, the lack of benefit from it and the economic damage it will do. All to supposedly reduce emissions by 160 million tonnes when China pumped out 8 Billion tonnes of CO2 last year.  When you Labor/Green goons come up with a strategy to curtail China’s and India’s massive pollution then I’ll support your stupid tax.

    • The Badger says:

      04:00pm | 16/07/11

      The press exercises “power without responsibility – the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. “
      —Rudyard Kipling
      Independent inquiry NOW

    • DavidK says:

      08:06pm | 16/07/11

      Yes The Badger an inquiry now for your pea size brain to put an end to the crap you are always sprouting.

    • Against the Man says:

      09:52am | 17/07/11

      ....pea size might be an over-estimation…..........

    • Andrew says:

      11:45am | 17/07/11

      I agree we need to look into why the ABC is given tax payer money when its obviously not impartial as its charter says it should be. We also need a enquiry into the age hacking scandel and why a conservative or even a mod conservative would have more chance of getting a job in the chinese media then most fairfax papers.

    • Stuart says:

      04:06pm | 16/07/11

      Brown and Gillard don’t trust anyone especially the newspapers,they think that everyone is against them and that they can’t do anything right,well they are right for once,nobody does trust them and I can’t recall them ever doing anything right and we are all against them.

    • Helen says:

      04:20pm | 16/07/11

      Well as a reader and viewer of the journalistic news in Australia I have to say there is a distinct bias against the current government.  So it is not a surprise to read the comments from Gillard and Brown who obviously being intelligent and aware have also noted the obvious. If the reporting had been even then this matter would never have been an issue. So weep no more and do your job to a professional standard. The facts will speak for themselves and the public can then make a considered decision and will appreciate the chance to do so.

    • The Badger says:

      04:33pm | 16/07/11

      mark had something interesting to say last year which is just as appropriate today.

      “Media Inc wraps itself with the mystique of the so called ‘Fourth Estate”, bleating on about ‘freedom of speech’, ‘the right to know’ and all of the other self righteous platitudes used by this arm of corporate and private interests to distort perspective for nothing more than financial return and to push owner and editor ideology. There is no qualitative difference between this repugnant estate and theother three. Each are about their own privilege, and the manipulation of society for its own interests.

      Try doing an interview with a journalist, with them all charm and earnest integrity, and then find your comments doctored so to reflect nothing more than the bias of that journo and their employer.

      The press is a fraud, driven by greed and agenda, bloated with self righteousness, unaccountability, and cheap hysteria.

      News as distortion is the only vector through which most of us encounter the world. A population groomed by media to live in a reactive and heightened state.”
      Mark | Sydnay - June 23, 2010, 7:20AM

      And this Hildebrand is why the press need to be accountable to someone other than themselves.

    • rod says:

      05:07pm | 16/07/11

      The Australians masthead should say ” the official newspaper for the Liberal National Parties.”

      Let us not forget News Limted were given the boot in Fiji for what the governemnt regarded as biased political reporting

    • Ben81 says:

      07:08pm | 16/07/11

      Yeah you might want to look up Fiji’s media and political situation so you don’t look like a twit next time Rod.

    • Bula Bula says:

      08:22pm | 16/07/11

      rod

      Have you any idea what you have said or is it you are making comments for the sake of it trying to sound intelligent.

      Read every word of this link and then maybe we will if we are lucky get something sensible from you.

      http://www.coupfourandahalf.com

    • Gerard says:

      10:35pm | 16/07/11

      Well said Ben.

    • DaS Energy says:

      05:19pm | 16/07/11

      Dear Julia and Bob. Australia a little country down the bottom half of the Globe. England up north of Australia and deserted by Julia’s parents when she was a child. Perhaps Julia and Bob could be as investigative of Englands Carbon emission solution as they are about Englands newspapers.

    • Albert Banks says:

      06:17pm | 16/07/11

      It’s ironic, shooting the messenger, because we’ve never had a political assassination in Australia yet these two seem intent on getting some crazy to make a name for themselves. Australia is the last country on earth that would willingly accept communism

    • Jack Dawson says:

      07:18pm | 16/07/11

      So much butthurt, Joe. You’re even worse than Tory.

      Don’t take it so personally, I’m sure someone will give you a job again once it’s all over. Lot’s of small down newspapers and church newsletters to be published.

      Just chill out.

    • Shake of the sauce bottle. says:

      07:25pm | 16/07/11

      “That, it appears, is Australian journalists’ reward for not engaging in dirty and unscrupulous practices and generally being fairly decent types: A McCarthy-esque fishing expedition based on not a shred of evidence. Not even an allegation.”

      Heard of this little book called “Sideshow”, Joe?

      Bloke called Lindsay Tanner wrote it.  I heard he used to be somebody.  He seemed to have both allegations and evidence.  Even managed to correctly predict how the media would react to it: that they’d say he attacked his own party and miss the entire point of the book.  Stop bringing your sophomore bullshit in here.

    • Richard says:

      07:58pm | 16/07/11

      I am struck today by the very prescient way in which the author Ayn Rand foresaw 70 years ago the sort of dystopic society that we would one day be living in. Just as the current economic problems in America have many parallels with the novel ‘Atlas Shrugged’, this hysterical campaign against News Ltd. perpetrated by Greens, socialists and leftists also resembles the fictitious campaign waged against Wynand Papers in the novel ‘The Fountainhead’.

      These petulant petty communists are intent on nothing less than the restriction of freedom in favour of statist authoritarianism. They pathetically crave the rigid embrace of the paternalistic bureaucracy to tell them what to do, how to think, and who to hate.

      And oh how they hate. If anyone dares to dispute the official narrative: that’s it~ on to the hate list. It doesn’t matter how irrational or hypocritical the official story gets, it is held sacred by these clowns. Such devotion to groupthink is dangerous and deleterious, and as the author Ayn Rand showed, eventually ruinous.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      08:24pm | 16/07/11

      indeed. Socialism is a cancer that needs to excised.

    • gordie says:

      09:07pm | 16/07/11

      i didnt understand any of those big words but i agree with everyone of them

    • eda says:

      09:28am | 17/07/11

      Smart woman, Ayn Rand, Richard, how apt her words are, after all these years.

      ‘They pathetically crave the rigid embrace of the paternalistic bureaucracy to tell them what to do, how to think, and who to hate.’

      ‘And oh how they hate. If anyone dares to dispute the official narrative: that’s it~ on to the hate list. It doesn’t matter how irrational or hypocritical the official story gets, it is held sacred by these clowns. Such devotion to groupthink is dangerous and deleterious, and as the author Ayn Rand showed, eventually ruinous.’

      Ayn Rand, (I salute you) you were/are spot on the money, regarding the ‘Murdoch Empire’.

    • MP says:

      08:16pm | 16/07/11

      Everyone should read Lindsay Tanner’s book.  Sheeesssh, these journalists are touchy.  They can dish it but they can’t hack it.  Excuse the pun. 

      Rudd was given a free run for about 5 minutes.  He was accused of murdering the poor souls who put up ceiling insulation for shonky operators.  Installations went from about 100,000 a year to about 1,1million and most people were happy with the results but the media took a very emotional approach to every story concerning the pink batts.

      Same with the schools.  We never saw or read about any school who was happy with the results, yet I knew scores of people who were.  My 7 year old nephew gave us day-to-day updates of how his new 2-story building comprising 6 classrooms was coming along.  He was sooo excited.  I bet he wasn;t the only one and we live in Abbott;s electorate.

      Lastly, how come Rudd never gives any tangible impression that he;s trying to sabotage the Labor Party or trying to bring down Gillard. Yet the media seems to know something we don’t.  Maybe they do!
      In publicRudd appears loyal.  Perhaps to his family and friends he privately expresses his ambitions to once again, lead the ALP.  One would almost think that Rudd’s phone is tapped. I bet this won’t be published.

    • Wolf Schmidt says:

      08:31pm | 16/07/11

      I am old enough to remember the Nazis very well, my dad was one.
      Then came the German “Democratic” Republic, we lived close enough to them,
      to scare the pants off us. So we emigrated to Australia in 1964.
      Here we were given opportunities we never had in Europe, not that life was easy for immigrants of any time.
      But we not only survived, we thrived in a reasonable way.
      We experienced the Whitless Government and the hysteria, when Sir John
      Kerr sacked that useless lot.
      We never forget Bob Hawke the big fake, they called him the backslapping bastard at work.
      Keating had the big picture alright, but unfortunately ordinary folks were not in it.
      We respected John Howard until the lies just became too much.
      This current Government totally has lost its way, now driven into a corner
      by their own incompetence and utter stupidity, they want to shoot the messenger.
      30% of the population support the Greens, which means to me that 30%
      of the population are fools, who are being led up the garden path
      by a pack of lying and devious bastards.
      The only thing to save this country is a double dissolution, or the devil
      himself will run this country.
      On top of all that I have the sneaking suspicion that a recession is just around the corner.
      We are all in for a rough ride, no matter what side we are on.
      May god help Australia, no one else will.
      I hope I am wrong, but have seen it all before.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      08:56pm | 17/07/11

      And your opinion of Malcolm Fraser?

    • IAN WENSOR says:

      08:37pm | 16/07/11

      One just has to look at the ratings to work out what’s behind Gillard and Brown’s ridiculous proposal… They’re running scared and desperately need to hide their notorious blunders from the public…What better way of doing that than make spurious allegations of bias against the media in the hope it will keep them quiet and not further effects what little chance they and their parties have ... of being re-elected.

    • c.conservative says:

      08:54pm | 16/07/11

      Impressive, Richard

    • john taylor says:

      11:16pm | 16/07/11

      You know I felt pretty good when I read that, finally, News Ltd was being held to account. But now I have read the hysterical prattlings of Erick et al conflating the issue to being, actually, a huuuuuge Greenie conspiracy a la Melbourne’s village idiot, Andrew Bolt. And I felt even better. 

      Having said that, I hold no brief for any journalist, being perfectly able, as a free thinker, to make my own mind up rather than being told what I should think by any one member of that so called ‘profession’. I am not convinced that the behaviour demonstrated in the UK is restricted to those shores. I am utterly unconvinced by Hildebrand’s facile arguments and those of the rest of the Murdoch sty. Moreover I would hazard that journalistic ethics (if there are any at all, which I doubt) are likely more honoured in the breach than observance across this ‘profession’. Thusly I do not consider it would be confined to Murdoch’s rabble. So. Let us have a full inquiry. Establish a statutory right to privacy. Perhaps codify some ethics and regulate these buggers like other professions are regulated. And hold the lot of them to account when they transgress. We might have a really close look at political bias too and see where the numbers fall. The fourth estate wields a lot of power. Time they realised that power is really a responsibility and ought be exercised as such. And it hardly needs pointing out that the media have brought this entirely on themselves. To bleat that it is just a diversion is, well, just that itself.  Man up, fourth estate.

    • Malleeringneck says:

      12:07am | 17/07/11

      Gillard and Brown are both paranoid wacko’s trying to diffuse the pressure on them for poor press by blaming the press of something that has happened in another country with absolutely no relationship with themselves.

    • SnG says:

      03:12am | 17/07/11

      The big problem is that Murdoch owns 75% of print. This is worrying because if there is a scandal at News Ltd, there is only a small section of the print media that can cover it.

      This is relevant because in the UK, it was a rival paper, The Guardian, that investigated the scandal and brought it to light.

    • Peter says:

      05:31am | 17/07/11

      I am amused and alarmed at how some sanctimonious pricks take the moral high ground and call for an inquiry into the media only when the media does not reflect their opinion.
      There were no such bleatings when the media endorsed the return of this dysfunctional rabble last August.
      Now that the media has scrutinised the hidden agenda and exposed it, and is reflecting community outrage, there is a loud chorus from these minority groups that the media should be investigated.
      What a bunch of bloody hypocrites.

    • rodney allsworth says:

      06:56am | 17/07/11

      when it comes to media honesty, it must be remembered that the media,-by natural order-is read by one and all, if there is wrongdoing its the first to come under critisism. whereas the politicians ae the ones to flavor the newes they send out and hope that the wording and content gets accepted by the public, so the media is constantly under survailenc, poiticians are constantly hiding behind all sorts of spin and politicial mecanisms, then theres this little gem-quote-Not only that, News Ltd itself is a 100 per cent carbon neutral company, having already reduced or offset all its emissions in just three years.-now why hasent the greenlabor govt under BROWN AND GILLARD made comments highlighting this fact as it would bolster the carbon theory, ?. because it comes from the right which brown and gillard hate, and this fact,quote- Do they have any evidence of phone tapping here? No.Do they have any evidence of illegal activity here? No-end quote-this is classic GUILT MANIPULATION FROM THE LEFT SOCIALLIST AGENDA, SINCE WHEN DID AUSTRALIA BECOME A NATION THAT MAKES ACCUSATIONS OF- GUILTY BEFORE CONVICTED-. this whole exercise of BROWN AND GILLARD is symtomatic of a flailing and lost green labor independants coalition govt, its reaks of desperation, grabbing a straws, and social engineering of societys mindset, thsankfully australians have proven over decades we arew prepared to give thjings a go, even unproven political movements, but when it comes to lying and manipulating our thoughts THATS A WHOLE DIFFERANT BALL GAME,only a plebisite on the carbon tax,or a general election will stop the rot we have at this time.

      rod   qld

    • Jimbob, WA says:

      02:19pm | 17/07/11

      YEAH

    • Scott says:

      08:34am | 17/07/11

      Good article. Thanks, Joe.

    • Gidgee says:

      08:40am | 17/07/11

      Aah, such assumed piety on the part of the embarrassed journalist who wrote this article - give it a break willya, the day that John Hartigan denied any knowledge of the Storm affair was the day the Murdoch empire started to unravel.
      This News of the World disgrace along with the apparent concern of American interests vis-a-vis the much cited 9/11 madness being shafted home to Murdoch indicates that the chickens are coming home to roost..
      Sometimes it is best to not attempt to defend the indefensible lest it get totally out of hand.
      Gidgee.

    • Bernard says:

      09:31am | 17/07/11

      The media isn’t evil per se…  just ignorant and stupid with a sensationalist agenda and no ethics whatsoever!

    • Get It Right says:

      10:45am | 17/07/11

      The only reason why Bob Brown and Julia Gillard are taking up the crusade against certain media outlets is to deflect the constant barrage by the media on their woeful carbon tax policy.

    • Geoff M says:

      10:59am | 17/07/11

      Your comment:  And let us NOT forget that they will do whatever they can to distract everyone’s attention away from the totally unnecessary and massively job-destroying and expensive Carbon Dioxide Tax.  And I really mean ‘EVERYTHING THEY CAN !!!

    • dobbo says:

      11:11am | 17/07/11

      Nah…nobody needed to shoot the messengers…they’ve done it themselves.

      The savaging of Murdoch’s news empire and its way of operating was as inevitable as the fall of the Roman Empire. The man and his crew had made just too many enemies, interfered too much in the internal affairs of too many countries and spread themselves much too thin in the process.

      Here was a boil that had been festering for years and was going to burst in a very messy way no matter what.

      There’s been too much focus on creating news and not enough reporting news. Too much kingmaking whether it be of the Labour or Liberal kind. Too much undermining of those who don’t suit their multinational, elitist agenda.

      News Limited newspapers carry headlines everyday slamming the Carbon Tax and BER (talk to teachers about the latter and you’ll find overwhelming enthusiasm for what this has delivered in the way of amenities to struggling schools Australia over).

      Doesn’t take Einstein to see balance is what’s needed. A fair go. For a recent typical example of bias, check out last week’s July 14 Australian.

      An article headed “PM trounces Abbott in economists survey” is tucked away up top left of page 6.

      Wonder what would have happened if Abbott had received similar support? Front page news I suggest.

      Bottom line: it’s more than poetic justice to see such a crew making more than a few (unwanted) front page headlines of their own.

    • Libby says:

      11:28am | 17/07/11

      Joe,

      News Ltd’s treatment of this government has been pathetic. Yeah, yeah, whoopie doo, you pointed out some flaws, so did everyone else. But the eagerness of the Australian to destroy the Greens has been a disgrace to all thinking Australians.

      Don’t try to defend your pathetic little organisation, you’re just doing your chances of life after its death in.

    • DontCopIt Audtralia says:

      04:39am | 23/07/11

      This sad excuse for a government’s contempt for (to quote you Libby) “Thinking Australians” is (to also quote you) pathetic, as is the Greens and their Agenda.  The “eagerness” of the Prime Minister’s (be it Gillard or Brown or whoever has watch this hour) campaign to jump in on the “let’s bash a newspaper because they don’t genuflect unto us” programme is about as useful to this country as a carbon tax shall be for lowering global temperatures and actually negating real pollution.  Joe at least sees it for what it is.  As much as I have issue with private citizens hacking, I have a bigger issue with Governments doing it.  This administration’s dirty little campaign against anything Australian, and it’s attempt to hack now the media as if it hasn’t already murdered the ABC is tantamount to the ALP’s “Peoples Flag is Deepest Red” war waged to have our once prospering nation a new state of the PRC or even worse, a new state of the UN’s Battle for a NWO.  Take your medicine and drop it with a little cod liver oil.  Learn to whom you really kneel before.

    • Ken Sekiya says:

      11:56am | 17/07/11

      I don’t want to encourage Phone-tapping, Hacking, etc.
      However, at times, such practices are as necessary - equivalent to Whistleblowing,
      when it comes to creating transparency against Corporations that don’t comply with laws and regulations - let alone their own policies and procedures

      I’m really disappointed that Bob Brown’s taken this position - and don’t believe that this is a shared position amongst the Greens - considering their pro-Transparency position.

      Rather than pointing the finger at the Media all the time - he should now be encouraging good Journalism, and suggesting impartial objective sources on the Carbon Tax.

    • WhitieinOzz says:

      12:25pm | 17/07/11

      Whats the old saying ...can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen ?

    • Richard says:

      12:26pm | 17/07/11

      Rupert Murdoch’s empire must be dismantled
      This man owns more than 2/3’s of the newspapers in Australia.

    • stephen says:

      08:59pm | 17/07/11

      And Microsoft must own 3/4 of everything else worthy of information.
      The only difference is, is that newspapers have an opinion, and for that we really should pay an extra charge.

    • Govt@FauxCitizen says:

      12:50pm | 17/07/11

      Suck it up Joe, a few rotten apples will give any megalomaniac power tripper the GREEN light to tip the entire barrell out and wash the rest with bi-carb of soda and vinegar. Learn to enjoy your Tofu and unprocessed Tibetan rye bran and shutup till you’re spoken to, there’s a good boy now go and meditate.

    • Jon says:

      12:53pm | 17/07/11

      I have no faith in the Green/Left review of the media when they have had a long history of promoting a PC agenda whose main result has been to shut down free speech. I don’t trust Murdoch, but either do I trust politicians on the protection of free speech especially on the Left.

    • Glen says:

      01:45pm | 17/07/11

      Gillard can’t take the heat. That is all. The Labor advisers that came up with limiting the press really are looking to be unemployed in 2012/13 for the next 25 years.

      Yes folks 25+ years. The Menzies era will have nothing on what is to come.

    • sam says:

      08:11pm | 17/07/11

      25 years you make me pmsl the Australian public is not that dumb like you want to think they are

    • Billablog says:

      03:16pm | 17/07/11

      Ah Joe, you protest too much!
      What happened to the doctrine of “If you’ve done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about”?

      If News Ltd is as pure as you suggest it is, you should be welcoming scrutiny. Surely it will remove all question.

      If the government only has itself to blame for poor perceptions, then who is to blame for the world-wide belief that News Corp has a political agenda and uses all its outlets to relentlessly push that agenda? You can’t have it both ways.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      04:34pm | 17/07/11

      Best. Caption. Ever.

    • Bobster says:

      05:26pm | 17/07/11

      Joe,

      Usually your stuff is witty and entertaining. This was an angry, bitter rant.

      That alone says more than you can overcome.

    • RyaN says:

      07:44pm | 17/07/11

      This is what communists do, expect total government control over the media if Gilard / Brown have their way. Soon you will have to go through a government media official before penning any article. Just you wait and see.

    • Billy-Ray Jim says:

      09:20pm | 17/07/11

      YEAH! Damn commies. Git ‘em Rupert.

    • RyaN says:

      10:52pm | 17/07/11

      Joke all you like, I have lived under a commie despot mate, Julia smacks of one. I am sure she has been taking notes from Mugabe with regards to the media.

    • sam says:

      08:07pm | 17/07/11

      a parliamentary inquiry into the media is good for the media . it will show how good a job you people are doing by reporting the news and not making it or twisting the facts or making personal comments about the news

    • Michelle says:

      09:00pm | 17/07/11

      Good on you Joe. Good article.

      Have you seen the following from Akerman? Both are valid points. I’m especially shocked to learn (if true) that aunty paid taxpayers funds to purchase stolen information from Assange. Not the most moral, or ethical use of public funding imho.

      At the 2009 Walkley awards Rudd got a roasting. The same hand wringers in media now were hand clapping every note.

      I look forward to Gillard entertaining this year.

      http://youtu.be/7wksMvWCsh4

      from Piers

      There is no evidence of which I am aware that any Australian news organisation have been engaged in Fleet Street-style phone hacking, though the Fairfax press has admitted to using private detectives and both the ABC and Fairfax paid to access the secrets in the hacked files amassed by the international cyber-spy Julian Assange.

      and

      If Coorey and Oakeshott wish to ponder abuse, they should look at the contumely poured upon the members of the former Howard administration and John Howard and his wife, Janette, in particular, and contemplate the lack of comment by either Fairfax or the ABC at the time.

      Indeed, many of the appalling personal attacks and slurs appeared in the Fairfax press and on the ABC’s airwaves, as ad hominem insults and derision have been stock in trade at both organisations for decades.

      No, the apparent disrespect Coorey and Oakeshot have now discovered is not caused by any sex issue, but simply to disgraceful public policy.

      http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/

    • Paul says:

      03:48pm | 18/07/11

      “Not only that, News Ltd itself is a 100 per cent carbon neutral company, having already reduced or offset all its emissions in just three years.”

      hahaha stop the press! Anthropogenic Climate Change - SOLVED. I guess the paper News Ltd prints on is deemed as carbon sequestering.

      You know you might convince me that this is a cynical political stunt and that article almost had a point in the beginning in keeping succinct with the british tabloid issue.

      However, 2/3 of that article was about “the worst campaign in history” ... funny, because I thought it was an article about an investigation into media ethics/bias. uhuh

    • discordian says:

      04:50pm | 18/07/11

      NewsCorp made their bed with their unethical and blatantly biased reporting, now they can lie in it.

      For too long we have had to observe the spectacle of The Australian printing blatant falsehoods about government policies (NBN will cost you $3000 to connect to your home) and unabashed baracking (destroy the Greens). For too long we have had to put up with complete contradictions in Labor’s stated position on issues, for example this article one day before the election ( http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983 ) then the claim that Labor made no such promise after the election. For too long we have had to put up with the total hypocrisy of NewsCorp accusing moderate organisations like the ABC and Fairfax of political bias, because they don’t match their far-right position. All of these positions are deliberately made to maximise their chosen political message and agenda.

      NewsCorp deliberately chose their political enemies, Labor and the Greens here in Australia, Obama in the US (Fox’s treatment of him is especially disgraceful) and Labor in the UK. Now we are supposed to sympathise because that is having some blowback? Like hell.

    • Francis Botham says:

      04:58pm | 18/07/11

      “And of course media ownership will be scrutinised. And why is that again?”

      Perhaps because 70% of Australian newspapers are owned by an organisation involved in illegal electronic wire tapping/hacking .

    • Tod says:

      05:10pm | 18/07/11

      Sorry Joe, I generally like your comments, but you are kidding yourself here. To claim the news ltd media is anything but partisan is ridiculous. I noted one of your collegaues the other week (on Agenda) stating that the ‘Australian’ is “centre right” but clearly seperates its “opinions from news”. That is rubbish - for a start all news ltd papers are right of right wing and never seperate opinion from fact.

      This publication alone has been shown to repeatedly and delibertaly misrepresent facts to suit its own agenda, or to simply publish opinion as fact.

      In fact this whole column shows what is wrong with media in Australia, it has lost its way. Austrlianmedia has decided it is its role to “SET’ the agenda rather than report on it. To hide behind “its just cos Labors incompetent so thay are trying to shot the messenger” is prime example of the Australian medias incompetence and complte lack of self awareness.

      Not to mentuion that it is the “murdoch” press that is so against any inquiry… mmm I wonder why…

    • cck says:

      06:16pm | 18/07/11

      Do the rabidly extreme right-wingers (who think Bolt etc are perfectly reasonable, if not a little soft) not understand that a viewpoint to the “left” of Bolt is not necessarily “biased” towards the left. There’s a hell of a lot of room before you even get to the “unbiased” centre!!

    • Alan says:

      08:18pm | 22/07/11

      The journalists of this country are on notice, lift your game, be honest, be fair and even handed.  We do not see this at present.  If you don’t fix your own house, some-one else will.  If it is reveled that journalists in this country are also involved in phone tapping then all bets are off and you will get what you deserve.

    • DontCopIt Australia says:

      12:32am | 23/07/11

      Keep up the good work Joe!  You crack me up my friend!

    • Mel says:

      05:35am | 24/07/11

      In light of a recent child-porn arrest involving at least one federal Labor politician, would it be prudent to suggest that all politicians be federally investigated,  their offices and computers searched?
      Better to be safe than sorry, considering this incident did afterall involve an Australian federal Labor MP, right here in Australia, and not one overseas in the UK.

      One can never be too careful.

      Never in all my life have I seen an Australian government bully various corporations and industry the way this Gillard-Brown government has.
      Investors beware.

    • Kipling says:

      02:57am | 07/08/11

      Um, it may be prudent to point out that despite the woe is me hand wringing from privately owned media mouth pieces hinting at the contrary, the review called for is an entire review of Australia’s media. This would include the ABC (laughingly referred to as leftist media) and other media outlets be they left, right, middle or simply honest…

      That is the point, clearly overlooked. But as usual with these modern mouth pieces pretenders to journalism, never let the facts upset a good rant.

      If this is not the government to conduct the review (I daresay it should not be conducted by any government, they are all a bit too self interested), then it would seem an intelligent and transparent response to embrace a genuinely independent review and work towards setting up such. Of course, that might mean some bipartisan planning with your competitors, including the ABC, where, I would suggest, you will find more than a little support.

      You see, those who read the ABC with BOTH eyes open, or listen with their right and left ear would notice tha tthe ABC has also been vocal in defense of free press. What a bunch of turn coat lefties eh?

      This is not to say though that an independent review should not happen.

      Self regulation is unreliable, inconsistent, lacking in transparency and, therefore, doubtful in honesty.

 

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