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Clover Moo

by Clover Moo

21 Jul 05:50am

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Clover Moo here, reporting once again from the shady corner of the paddock.

More hot air. Illustration: Peter Nicholson.

I know what you’re thinking in that oversized human brain of yours. Wait a minute, I sound like that godawful ANZ ad.

Anyway, I’m guessing you’re sick of the carbon tax, right? Well, me too. If I read one more word about it in the old newsprint down in the chook shed, I swear I’ll start squirting Yakult out my udders.

So here’s my beef. No sooner do I tune out to all this carbon tax bulldust, then what do I hear? Those nutters from PETA are trying to tax cow farts. Cow farts! It’s enough to make you sick to your four stomachs.

Who are these PETA cowboys anyway? And how do they think this will save the planet?

If you ask me, any planet where a cow can’t indulge its natural tendency towards extreme flatulence ain’t worth saving.

Cows fart. Cows poo. Then we eat the beautifully fertilised grass underneath it. Thus is the McDonalds triple cheeseburger born, and society enriched.

Let me get to the meat of this issue. The warmists and the do-gooders want everyone in the world to turn vegan. You realise what that means for me and my herd, don’t you?

It means we’ll be out of a job! Just like all those miners and steel manufacturers who’ll be tossed aside when the carbon tax comes in, we’ll be soggy hay on the muddy barn floor of society.

Oh, but I said I wouldn’t talk about the carbon tax, didn’t I.

I’m sorry, but the comparisons are irresistible. We cows shouldn’t be punished for something which isn’t even proven. There are enough myths in the world!

It’s like that myth about “spare ribs”. See, we don’t actually have these magical spare ribs that you can just kind of pluck out at will. You want our ribs, you’ve got to take the rest of us too.

It’s the same with this farting thing. You want to stop cow farts, you’re going to have to get rid of us cows too.

The steaks really are much too high to entertain these PETA lunatics for another second.

 

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    • Economic Refugee says:

      05:57am | 21/07/11

      Anyway if this CO2 is really warming up the planet like the loonie lefties like Persephone keeps dribbling on about, shouldnt we be pushing this through?? Where do the most abundant parts of the planet lie? The equator. Why?? ITS WARM!!!!! The last thing we want is another ice age, it will kill 90% of life on this earth ( quote needed ).

      This tax is a huge joke.

      Reply

    • persephone says:

      07:46am | 21/07/11

      As is, obviously, your understanding of science.

      As for your comment about the tropics….funny, I hadn’t noticed that that’s where the world’s richest and most prosperous nations were based.

      The areas suffering the most drastic food shortages at the moments are situated….where, exactly?

      Oh, Africa. Pakistan. Bangladesh. Sort of near to the equator, all ot them.

      So it would appear that being near the equator and being warmer doesn’t result in prosperity, but quite the reverse.

    • nihonin says:

      08:55am | 21/07/11

      I remember learning at school in the 70’s, about the Ice Age the world was warned about and it never eventuated. Just like that threat, I think most reasonable adults/people are treating this latest threat with the same attitude, heard it all before.

    • Mike says:

      09:39am | 21/07/11

      It’s sad when so-called satire is used to ridicule a serious concern.
      1. It’s not cow farts that are the problem, but cow BURPS. People like the author use “farts” to try sound more funny.
      2. The burps contain METHANE, a far more damaging climate change gas than CO2.
      3. Livestock creates more greenhouse gas than all the planes, cars and trains in the world. You won’t want to accept this fact but it’s true.

      After all who are you going to believe? A silly attempt at satire on a website catering for right wing nut jobs, or some real research?
      http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/cow-emissions-more-damaging-to-planet-than-cosub2sub-from-cars-427843.html

    • It's Both says:

      11:36am | 21/07/11

      @Mike: I always love then people pick on the farts and insist, “no, no, it’s just the burps!”.

      1. Burps are just as funny as farts.
      2. Talking about taxing cow burps is just as stupid.
      3. Science Fact of the Day: Cow Farts contain methane too.

      If you didn’t understand that, it’s BOTH, not one or the other. As to your own point 3, it’s still being debated as to how much methane cows fart and burp - turns out measuring it all isn’t easy. I’ll let you google the pictures of plastic tubes and contraptions all attached to Cows designed to try and measure it.

    • Scot says:

      12:32pm | 21/07/11

      @Mike. And why you are at it why not kill all the animals currently living on this planet. The out out more methane than human beings do. So do not go eating any wheat products Mike, or you will be an endangered species as well LOL> What a goose. Oops no more foie gras, oops there goes the goose species. Oops there goes all the wild pigs, camels, horses, goats, kangaroos. I will not be giving up my meat for you or anyone, get it. Rabid Greens.

    • Scot says:

      12:37pm | 21/07/11

      persephone. Hello, One third of the worlds forests are on the equator? The countries you refer to are not. Global warming, what a joke, you must be one of Gillard’s tree huggers. Plenty of room in Tasmania for you all, so just go, setup up you own socialist government with Brown and Gillard. And leave us all alone with your economic destruction. Am sure no one on the mainland will be complaining.

    • Glenn says:

      01:05pm | 21/07/11

      @nihonin

      Oh Yeh the 70’s - what a coincidence - that was the Whitlam days. The second worst Labor Goverment in Australia’s history.

      Just a coincidence or is history repeating Itself, just as the climate of the world goes from mini ice age to warm.

    • nihonin says:

      03:05pm | 21/07/11

      Glen ‘Oh Yeh the 70’s - what a coincidence - that was the Whitlam days. The second worst Labor Goverment in Australia’s history’.  True, strange isn’t it that all the worst governments (the ones that run up the debts and have people screaming for their blood) are all Labor.  Me I count Keating’s Government as the 3rd worse.

    • andre says:

      03:43pm | 21/07/11

      @per se phone
      You lad-dy are quite deluded as most warmist are. The food shortages of Africans and others has nothing to do with the warm weather there . It is rather their culture, customs and beliefs that make them unable to feed themselves

    • nihonin says:

      03:57pm | 21/07/11

      If the farmers teach their cows to do SBD’s (silent but deadlies), how would the fart police know which cow to charge the tax to.

    • The Badger says:

      04:03pm | 21/07/11

      andre - a nean drethal
      “The food shortages of Africans and others has nothing to do with the warm weather there”

      Nothing to do with what?

      “The United Nations is warning that more than 10 million people could be affected by the horn of Africa’s worst drought in decades.

      A poor wet season and high food prices have led to severe food shortages and aid agencies say the situation is desperate and getting worse.

      Refugee camps in Kenya are filling up with starving people who have fled from neighbouring Somalia where one in three children are suffering from malnutrition. ”

    • mel r says:

      04:28pm | 21/07/11

      Australia gives millions and millions in aid to African countries.  All those concerned over feeding the African people should take it up with African governments, or give up their jobs and go volunteer overseas.  Lots of people do this.

      No Carbon Tax

    • Scot says:

      01:49am | 22/07/11

      The Badger The other issue that some may have overlooked is this. There has been over the past two years a grain shortage in Europe because of the Greens demanding the manufacture of ethanol. As a result the cost of bread, pasta etc. has skyrocketed and the Europeans are as mad as hornets as it is now in Bio Fuel for vehicles. How stupid is that. This is also why there is now a shortage of grain for the refugees and the cost for them has also gone up. So the Greens are now practicing a form of genocide on all of us. So what will the Greens do to us in Australia turning our food into Bio Fuel as well. Just more cost on more cost. INFLATION AND HIGHER INTEREST RATES because of our debt.

    • Santy Gert says:

      06:09am | 21/07/11

      Cows only get flatulence when they get more than 20 % of their diet in grain. If they stick to their natural diet of grass they don’t.  I do know this because I hand milk a grassfed cow & own over 20 grassfed beef cattle too. Kinda like humans who eat too many beans….

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    • Hol Stein says:

      06:19am | 21/07/11

      How are they going to measure it? Strap a methane meter to every cow. I’m not sure about cows but I know with sheep the majority of methane is breathed out their mouths rather than their arse.

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    • persephone says:

      07:49am | 21/07/11

      Which is why agriculture is excluded from the carbon price - because it’s too difficult at present to measure its emissions.

      They have tried (in laboratory conditions!) doing exactly what you outline - strapping on a whole series of detectors to work out what an individual cow was emitting, but decided that the conditions were too artificial, and might in fact be increasing the cow’s methane production (cows fart a lot when they’re nervous…..)

      So there’s no proposal any time soon to price bovine induced methane production.

    • Q says:

      09:17am | 21/07/11

      Similar to that of many polititians….

    • Mythbusters Fan says:

      09:53am | 21/07/11

      Most of the methane production from a cow does indeed come out of its mouth.

    • Scot says:

      12:44pm | 21/07/11

      Holstein. Yes in WA at the UNI they have done just that. What they found out was more methane came out the front of the cow than the rear of the cow LOL. So Gillard and Brown will be putting a new Methane gas tax on the air they breath LOL> They have spent millions of tax payers money to introduce a new microbe to change their Methane gas output. Just like mouth wash LOL. This very serious money spent by our stupid government. FACT>> It was on the ABC Landline program SO IT MUST BE TRUE LOL> And what happens as Chin increases its dairy and beef herds that will be double that of Australia so they are no longer dependent on Australia? Their piggeries are already 5 times that of any all global producer LOL. FACT

    • LMAO says:

      02:08pm | 21/07/11

      @Mythbusters Fan

      Termites are thought to be responsible for about 40 per cent of the global release of methane, a greenhouse gas - according to the CSIRO so it must be correct.  Better off taxing these little buggers.

      http://www.csiro.au/news/features/termites.html

    • Dee Eusmort says:

      02:39am | 22/07/11

      Whereas in your case it just comes out everywhere all at once all of the time.

    • Peter#1 says:

      06:27am | 21/07/11

      Clever article and if it weren’t such a serious topic it would be very amusing.
      Those economic vandals in PETA are determined to bring about the destruction of the livestock industry.
      Couple this with the loony Greens loathing of agriculture and, if these radical groups are permitted to implement their policies, you have the scenario for a famine in this country in the future.
      Perhaps they should be reminded that they produce as much methane after they eat their chickpea and lentil burgers.

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    • Dee Eusmort says:

      02:42am | 22/07/11

      Clever article? Without doubt as clever as your analysis.

    • deb says:

      06:36am | 21/07/11

      I think we have all gone to the bloody choock house!
      Crazy emissions? next we will be taxing bad smells coming from septic tanks!
      an by the by i just luv your spare ribs!

      Reply

    • Coxinator says:

      07:05am | 21/07/11

      Next they’ll be taxing me on Saturday mornings after my Friday night ritual of beer and dim sims

      Reply

    • Against the Man says:

      01:29pm | 21/07/11

      Don’t give Juliar any ideas! smile

    • Glenn says:

      02:16pm | 21/07/11

      @ Against the Man

      We need to give Julia ideas, as she is completely diviod of her own.

      Otherwise only President Bob will be in her ear.

    • Against the Man says:

      05:22pm | 21/07/11

      @ Glenn - Well said! smile

    • Dingoh says:

      08:19am | 21/07/11

      ABC radio “science show” recently devoted a whole program to the evils of meat.  Highlighting the problems with the consumption of this soon to be outlawed luxury item of the bourgeois. 
      It touched on a number of issues that - (1) eating meat is bad for the environment.  (2) it consumes too many of the worlds resources.  (3) It gives you cancer. 
      A group who on the program suggest that we in Australia could consume ‘roo meat as a alternative and put forward very compelling arguments for this, are confronted with a distorted green reality that even this isn’t acceptable and we should become vegan.
      Seriously though - listen to the program and realise that meat is also one of the targets for the future to save the planet.  It will become something we will only be able to have on special occasions.

      Reply

    • LC says:

      10:14am | 21/07/11

      Meat banned? Here? Not bloody likely. Partly because of the Australian economy’s dependance on it, and because it’s a better use of Australian farms many of which do not have to appropriate soil to cater for fruit/vegetable growth. I’d like to see you try to grow soyabeans on a cattle farm on the edge of the desert, for example.

      And if meat is banned, we wouldn’t be able to have it on special occasions either.

    • michael j says:

      03:58pm | 21/07/11

      WE in QLD don’t need cows , fruit trees ,vegetables or anything like that,
      WE have coal seam gas in two varieties,,FRACKING N FIRING and we intend to sell both to the Chinese for a monster profit in return for our good natured gesture they will most likely give us some left over bean shoots n rice from Cubby station ,,what they don’t own it ,,won’t be long,,

    • melle says:

      04:42pm | 21/07/11

      @michael j,  what are you saying? 
      We do need fruit trees.  There’s nothing like an orchard.  My mandarin trees are laden with fruit.  ‘Course we need fruit trees.

    • over them all says:

      08:49am | 21/07/11

      the government owns all the kangaroos,emu’s,foxes and other feral animals all throughout australia
      lets tax them
      what a joke

      Reply

    • Shelly says:

      12:34pm | 21/07/11

      Don’t forget those feral camels. Thousands of those wild suckers roaming the centre of Australia. What about the brumbies? Try and cull anything in this country and you’d have the wrath of PETA descend upon your head real quick. A little consistency from our fur-averse friends would be great.

    • Geoff says:

      08:55am | 21/07/11

      The idea of the TAX is so that companies will reduce their carbon footprint.

      How does a farmer do that without killing off herds?
      PETA must be sharing the same single braincell if they’re chasing this kind of crap.

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    • Eco-friendly says:

      10:33am | 21/07/11

      I think they’ll achieve that by *reducing* herds, yes.
      Farmers are killing off their herds all the time.

    • Steve says:

      12:31pm | 21/07/11

      If you levy a methane tax against the farmer then the farmer will pass the cost on to the consumer via higher beef prices. As a result less meat will be eaten which helps to achieve the goals of PETA.

      PETA has to operate under the cloak of saving the planet from global warming because if they told the truth that they hate meat eaters they would nor get enough support for the changes they want to enforce.

      The same applies for the Greens who have been hijacked by the communists. If they operate under the cloak of the enviroment they have more support for their socialist cum communist policies. They are wolves in sheep clothes.

    • Mahhrat says:

      08:56am | 21/07/11

      PETA are anti-human, and always have been.  They want to thin out the ranks of humans, not animals.

      I’m all for it; them first.

      Reply

    • thatmosis says:

      08:57am | 21/07/11

      This article just shows the overwhelming opposition to and the piss taking that is happening. This Government is beyond a joke as they push through a tax on nothing for nothing just to stay in power. It will do nothing to stop pollution and pers can waffle all day but it doesnt change the fact that Jooliar lied to the people before the election and hasnt stopped lieing since. Over 60 % of Australians are opposed to this tax and its only those rusted on Labor Supporters or nutters like PETA and GetUP that actually push for it because of their own agendas like the Greens. This also proves that democracy as our forfathers fought, for is dead and buried due to the actions of this Government.

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    • Peter#1 says:

      01:26pm | 21/07/11

      Well said. I couldn’t agree more.
      That is why we must continue to maintain our opposition to this ridiculous tax and why we must work to eliminate the Greens, PETA and GetUp.

    • Dee Eusmort says:

      02:46am | 22/07/11

      Awww! Boo hoo! Didda big bad guvmnt wie to woo? Whadda poor widdwle diddums! Wanna hug?

    • John Smythe says:

      09:00am | 21/07/11

      Ingenious way to handle the topic. Well done. Morning checks complete. Coffee finished….Let the day begin!

      Seriously…some of these groups are looking more like religious fanatics. /shudder

      Reply

    • Jackie says:

      09:01am | 21/07/11

      Hi, Like the humor of the article. I think human flatulence should be taxed as well. In my house it is the with the penny jar, does the govt want GST on it? hehah! But seriously it is a major issue and one of the reason India is unable to cut its carbon emissions as they have too many cows and are unwilling to cull them for religious reasons.

      Reply

    • Steven says:

      09:01am | 21/07/11

      sigh…
      This is really getting stupid now.
      Years ago they did studies in the US about the amount of CO2 that cows release as a result of gas. The results were telling that they were releasing a lot of co2
      They then discovered that their results were false. The reason been is that farmers plant grass, which eats up co2. Then cows eat the grass, then have gas, which then releases co2. The cows only release what was already there.
      Idiots… Greens should go jump

      Reply

    • dumbfounded says:

      09:28am | 21/07/11

      Wait…if the cows werent there wouldnt the grass keep growing…‘eating’ up even more CO2. : /

      The fact is cows use a truck load more resources compared to other protein sources. Anyone who does a little bit of research knows that. If humans want to feed itself in relative peace for the next 50-100 years we either cull our population growth or eat less meat.

    • Steven says:

      09:55am | 21/07/11

      Yeah, good luck getting milk products from any other animal to the amount the current population needs…
      The whole point about animals and co2 is, they’re only releasing what’s already there…
      Put cows out in a pasture for 3 days to eat it down, flood irrigate it and within a week its back. Not to mention the other 20 or so pastures… They aren’t releasing anything extra into the atmosphere…

    • Vaunted says:

      11:20am | 21/07/11

      Er, cow farts are mainly methane, not CO2.

    • Agent Ronald says:

      08:16pm | 21/07/11

      Well if the greenies would just let us develop the Cow-Matrix so we could just grow them in a shed somewhere there would be no problems!

    • Dee Eusmort says:

      02:50am | 22/07/11

      CH4! CH4! CH4!
      Repeat after me: methane is CH4!!!
      It has nothing to do with CO2!
      You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • F.W.G.n says:

      09:04am | 21/07/11

      Persephone
                  Cows crap a lot when nervous, how much they fart depends on the feed thay are on at the time, I have milked enough of them to know.

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    • Al says:

      09:15am | 21/07/11

      The other thing that PETA seem to be neglecting in this proposal is this: The majority of gas released during cow farts (or burps) is NOT CO2, it is Methane.
      While Methane IS a greenhouse gas, it does not fall under the ‘carbon’ scheme.
      Also, if we were to tax farmers for their livestock, shouldn’t we tax EVERYONE for their breathing, and the breathing of their pets as when you breathe out you exhale a higher portion of CO2 than when you breathe in….it is how our (and most animals) bodies work coverting O2 to CO2 via respiration, which plants and lifeforms capable of photsynthesis then take in the CO2 ( using the C or carbon as building blocks) and release O2.
      Great, a tax on farting, then breathing and then a tax for dying (CO2 is also released in the disposal of corpses, be it via cremation or burial along with other gases such as methane etc.)

      Reply

    • Dee Eusmort says:

      03:00am | 22/07/11

      “when you breathe out you exhale a higher portion of CO2 than when you breathe in”

      Possibly because when you breathe in you IN-hale?!?

      Whatever the case may be, the article in question is about methane, or CH4, NOT CO2!

      You too have no idea what you’re talking about.

    • Elphaba says:

      09:25am | 21/07/11

      Well said, Clover Moo.  Are you going to be running for PM?  You’ll do a damn sight better than the contenders we have at the moment…

      Reply

    • S.L says:

      09:28am | 21/07/11

      Flatulence isn’t a problem unless you follow through!

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    • Chris says:

      09:39am | 21/07/11

      Could someone please explain to me how putting a tax on a cows farts will reduce carbon emissions.  Is the cow going to stop farting if it can’t afford to pay the tax - I don’t think so!.  How is the farmer going to stop his cows from farting? 

      All the tax would do is raise money but not reduce emissions at all.

      Tax humans for farting and I’d be bankrupt within a week!!

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    • John A Neve says:

      10:13am | 21/07/11

      Chris,
      Try taking charcoal tablets, it might help you.

    • Anubis says:

      10:30am | 21/07/11

      @ Chris - what you said is a perfect summation of Julia’s proposed Carbon (Dioxide) Tax - “All the tax would do is raise money but not reduce emissions at all.”

    • samesame says:

      09:44am | 21/07/11

      I hope they don’t introduce a fart tax for dogs…...this household would be poverty stricken in no time!!!!!!!!!!

      Reply

    • Eric I says:

      09:49am | 21/07/11

      Page 104 of “Securing a clean energy future: the Australian government’s climate change plan” says:
      “The carbon pricing mechanism will cover four of the six greenhouse gases counted under the Kyoto Protocol — carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and perfluorocarbons from aluminium smelting.”
      So, actually, industrial and mining emissions of methane do fall under the carbon scheme.

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    • Brad says:

      10:13am | 21/07/11

      All I can say is thank goodness that I won’t be around to see the effect all these taxes and restrictions have on future generations.  They’ll either be laughing at how the world was deluded by a scam or in servitude to pay their taxes. 

      peta have been a joke for so long.  A bit like greenpeace, started as a good idea and then the nut jobs got in control.  Actually, bit like Australia now.

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    • LC says:

      11:02am | 21/07/11

      Greenpeace when they started stood for something good and noble, but eventually they lost the plot, and are now so out-of-touch with reality it’s not funny.

      PETA, on the other hand have been among the craziest and hypocritical of all organizations of their kind from day 1.

    • Mike says:

      11:11am | 21/07/11

      Brad, you should be glad you won’t be around to witness the environmental degradation that we could be alleviating with sensible measures now, if it wasn’t for right-wing wreckers like Abbott

    • Dee Eusmort says:

      03:03am | 22/07/11

      And you Brad? How long have you been a joke?

    • Rossco says:

      10:43am | 21/07/11

      Penn and Teller’s Bullshit! episode on PETA really opened my eyes as to how much a bunch of raving lunatics and hypocrites PETA are.

      Reply

    • Paul Murray says:

      10:51am | 21/07/11

      Apparently kangaroos produce far less methane, and the secret is the aussie microfauna: it’s actually bacteria or something that break down the cellulose. Research is in progress to see if cows can host these dinkum tummy bugs.

      As a bonus, they extract far more energy from the grass, potentially meaning less paddock per cow.

      Reply

    • Shifter says:

      12:19pm | 21/07/11

      I’m wondering if this will go along with other Australian bad ideas, like cane toads and rabbits.

      At least the cows have a natural predator. Mmm steak.

    • Paul Murray says:

      10:55am | 21/07/11

      The reason for using taxation is that it’s a way of discouraging some behaviours and promoting others. If you think that it’s not the job of the government to engage in “social engineering”, then you haven’t quite grasped the point of having a government.

      Reply

    • michael j says:

      11:38am | 21/07/11

      I have been on about it for months, they are a threat to the planet,,kill them all,to buy time ,,when the carbon problem is fixed ,bring some back from the cryogenic freezer,,,,,

      Reply

    • Annabel says:

      12:20pm | 21/07/11

      Clover darling, we dont, how should I say this - emit wind from our backsides, we um, burp. Excuse me, that was better.

      Reply

    • Here Ford says:

      12:35pm | 21/07/11

      It’s a ‘carbon’ tax, not a ‘methane’ tax. Two different gases, reckon the cows are safe for the moment

      Reply

    • Dee Eusmort says:

      02:37am | 22/07/11

      Methane is CH4.
      That’s one atom of Carbon plus four atoms of Hydrogen.
      It is a greenhouse gas.
      It is in fact a greenhouse gas 23 times more powerful than CO2: this is 19th century physics.
      You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • Babe in the Woods says:

      01:23pm | 21/07/11

      Loved the film clip!  As for the rest of the article…. a load of nonsense really.  We all know that we don’t believe a word the government says (even when the occasionally tell the truth).  We also know the opposition don’t believe a word they are saying.  And most importantly, we all know the only reason for government is for them to tax people who work to give to those who don’t.  I am sure Persephone can come up with a 500 word load of intelligent sounded though actually meaningless drivel (with links and everything) to refute me, but she also is as on the nose as a cow fart.  So, may as well enjoy the funny clip.  Oh, and eat some beans - think of it as a silent (but deadly) opposition.

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    • Dee Eusmort says:

      03:10am | 22/07/11

      What exactly would Persephone refute if she chose to? That you’re fatuous?
      Waste of time, it’s clearly indisputable.

    • Johnny says:

      03:55pm | 21/07/11

      Perhaps we do have too many cows on this planet.  Perhaps everyone becoming vegans is a little extreme, but perhaps we should reduce our meat consumption.  Who knows it may even solve our problems with obesity.

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    • James O says:

      06:08pm | 21/07/11

      Humanity will have to be converted into vegetarians i suppose, the down side will be that all those poor farting bovine species will need to be culled adding another extinction to a long list of culpable human offenses to life in general on this planet. One bonus though will be the manufacture of artificial food supplements to replace the protein that meat once provided, this will energise the fortunate employed people of the world to work harder and pay their taxes. The ex cattle farms will be sold off to business franchises financed by Asian banks and the ex cattle farmers will drive carbon belching semi trailers in their own silent protest of all the political madness. Lets hope none of this ever happens. ( I was only joking,
      honest).

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    • sylvie says:

      09:21pm | 21/07/11

      James O Thankyou, thank you for not listing the human offences to life on this planet.  (I know an awful woman who says “I was only joking” -  after she’s done the damage)

    • lame excuses says:

      09:27pm | 21/07/11

      Another offence
      ....Spellcheck

    • Dee Eusmort says:

      03:14am | 22/07/11

      Now as for you, you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what you’re talking about!
      Nor, I’m sure, does anybody else.

    • Lynda of By The Seaside says:

      09:23pm | 24/07/11

      Reality Check: all animals, since the beginning of time have disposed of their gases into the ether capacious. Now, there would have been more animals, larger animals back in those times so one would expect that the disposal would be greater. We now have a lesser number of animals so what does that tell you? Fewer to discharge so that is having an effect on the climate!!  This whole thing is being engineered politically for no other reason than a distribution of wealth. Why are we allowing a few to dictate to so many? This all about political ideals and nothing to do with common sense. This is the year 2011 not 1600. We still live in a democracy: people’s rights. It is the right of the majority to decide whether this should be implemented or not. It is not the right of a political party/hangers on to dictate what will be implemented without going to the public and obtaining approval to proceed.  We are starting to move down a very narrow path where people’s rights are being eroded. Dissention is being interpreted as lack of knowledge. We currently have a government that is being influenced by a minority, but the government has chosen to go with the minority simply because it enables the government to stay in power. If the Prime Minister is so clear and convinced that her choice is the best path for this nation, then she should have the intestinal fortitude to go the people with an election and put it to the test. Of course she will not do that because she knows that it is not in the best interests of the country but it is what the Greens want her to do. The only way she holds on to office is to go along with the Greens. Sad story.

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