This week parliament will debate a bill to establish a national Preventive Health Agency, reminding of that classic Mark Twain observation: nobody is safe while the legislature is in session.

Illustration: Bill Leak

On The Punch Federal health minister Nicola Roxon insisted that she was no nanny statist, and that the purpose of the Agency was about saving lives and reducing health costs.

Most modern governments understand the follies of outright bans, such as the failed US Prohibition movement from 1919 to 1933. However, the Agency plans what it sees as the next best thing.

With a total budget of $133 million over four years, it intends to tax and regulate your booze, ciggies and fast food that it’s more expensive or harder to get.

Minister Roxon denies that the Agency will embark on a nagging agenda. However it plans to spend $2 billion this financial year on marketing campaigns about stuff you know already. (Really? Over-indulging in junk food has health consequences?)

So if that’s not nagging, then exactly what is it?

The following year, in 2010‑11, the proposed Agency intends to go into a healthy living ad campaign overdrive with the marketing budget lifted to $33.8 million.

That would represent a seventeen‑fold increase in taxpayer‑financed spending devoted to hectoring and cajoling you to skip your Friday night pizza and Tim Tams with coffee.

The other element of the Preventive Health Agency is more money, or $13 million over four years, thrown at what the Minister describes as translating research into practice.

What that essentially means is new opportunities for public health boffins to get out of universities and into plush government secondments.

Once this occurs, they will be set the task of writing a stack of papers about ingenious ways to nudge people into a ciggie‑free, teetotalling life with no hamburgers or Mars Bars.

Those tasks pretty much amount to what the public health lobby do already, except that poor Joe (or Joanne) Average get slugged with a tax bill for the privilege.

It can also be argued that there are more effective research paths to help improve our health and life expectancy.

Think of the serious, cutting‑edge research and development into new drugs by pharmaceutical companies that often require billions of dollars but promise massive payoffs.

One should take the assurances of the Minister and the public health lobby that the costs of the Preventive Health Agency are small, and will always be small, with grains if not buckets of salt.

The Bill being debated in parliament states that the Agency must develop triennial year strategic plans for health improvement, backed by annual plans relating to the strategic plan.

These plans present an open‑ended recipe for a fiscal cost blowout. They rely, in part, on state governments and other entities being able to deliver desired preventive health outcomes on behalf of the federal government.

If the Minister or her senior bureaucrats feel that the plans are ineffective, or that the pace of health improvement is too slow for their liking, then even more dollops of funding will likely go to the Agency.

Minister Roxon likes to portray her critics as a hysterical bunch that cares little about the desirability of good health. The Minister can continue to trumpet this line at her political peril.

A recent analysis of media coverage of the Preventative Health Taskforce, which will surely inspire the activities of the proposed Agency, shows that public opinion was overwhelmingly against greater paternalism in health.

Average Australians that responded to the Taskforce report expressed concern about potential increases in taxes and regulations, as well as infringement on civil liberties.

The Minister may protest that the Agency will not ban goods seen as unhealthy, but will instead seek to nudge people towards a healthier path to living.

Assuming that no Australian listens to the braying of the proposed nanny health agency, and goes on eating, drinking and smoking as before, there will still be significant costs imposed.

This is because, no matter what we do, we won’t be able to avoid increased taxes on alcohol, tobacco and fast foods if they come to light.

We won’t be able to avoid the pain of higher prices at the checkout as businesses are forced to pass on the costs of more intrusive regulations.

Australians certainly won’t be able to bypass the fiscal burden of paying for Preventive Health Agency administration.

Whichever way one looks at it, Nanny Nicola is coming to a bottle shop, takeaway food bar and tobacco retail outlet near you if the legislation passes.

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    • RT says:

      10:29am | 20/10/09

      Given that we have, for better or worse, a public health system that can be regarded as a product of a nanny state, it’s fair enough for nanny to look for ways to stop her kiddies getting so unhealthy that it’s breaking the bank. Alternatively, we could drop Medicare and go to the US style health system. I don’t think you can go halfway by having a public health system but many of the the participants don’t take enough responsibility for their health.

    • Clover says:

      10:39am | 20/10/09

      The mention of Tim Tams derailed me and I couldn’t focus on the rest of the article.

    • WHR says:

      10:41am | 20/10/09

      I don’t smoke, drink or eat fast food. Any tax on them means less of a tax for me to pay.

      Sounds good.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      10:47am | 20/10/09

      Damn straight- why should the people who try to maintain healthy lifestyles pay increases in taxes to cover the people who indulge in unhealthy behaviour? A two tier medicare levy system with the at risk people paying more is needed.

    • David C says:

      11:07am | 20/10/09

      WHR and Shane and who would these “at risk” people be? People that play sport and get “unnecessary” injuries? People that go outside without a scarf on a cold day and catch a cold? People that eat a Tim Tam and are 0.5 kg overweight?
      And by the way dont think for one minute your taxes will go down, the government is sure to find another use for them.

    • Christine says:

      11:09am | 20/10/09

      This piece is either naive, ignorant or both. Your tax dollars are helping pay for the health treatment of people who smoke, eat a poor diet or have alcohol problems anyway. Why is it suddenly so outrageous to think that some of those dollars will go towards the front end of health and not just at the acute stage when people need constant patching back together?

    • BT says:

      11:13am | 20/10/09

      My perception of the skyrocketing health costs in Australia was that they were due to an aging population. No amount of advertising is going to fix that!

    • Sahara says:

      11:20am | 20/10/09

      I have a friend who works in a city hospital emergency department. He spends all weekend tending to sporting injuries during the day and alcohol related problems at night.

      The funny thing is that nobody ever seems to think that people who injure themselves via sport should have to pay for their medical treatment despite the billions and billions of dollars cost each year. However if you suffer a medical problem due to some other issue then you shouldn’t expect the state to pay for you i.e. obesity problems or smoking.

    • AFR says:

      11:32am | 20/10/09

      Sahara, are you serious? You can’t see a difference between people engaging in a healthy activity (sport) and those who get drunk and hurt themselves and others.

    • Daphon says:

      11:38am | 20/10/09

      “Your tax dollars are helping pay for the health treatment of people who smoke, eat a poor diet or have alcohol problems anyway…”

      People who smoke, eat junk food and drink alcohol probably pay more tax than those who don’t.

      (I don’t do any of those things ... just sayin’.)

    • N says:

      11:46am | 20/10/09

      There are a tonne of people out there bagging this legislation - fair enough, I’m not keen on it myself.

      What I don’t see is someone coming up with a better way of preventing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people - they’re not just numbers - they are your husband, your wife, your son or daughter.

      Looking at just one aspect:
      1/3 of all diagnosed cancers are considered to be diet related. Serious numbers. When I look around me at the people I know and love who have sufferred this terrible disease- then consider that if people just did one thing - eat right - that we could reduce these numbers by 33% I wonder what we have to do to make people wake up and smell reality.

      If you are all willing to kill yourselves slowly so that the treasury doesn’t have to deal with the problem of an aging population - good on you. Count me out.

    • Daphon says:

      11:47am | 20/10/09

      Can’t be too healthy an activity if the emergency wards are full of sports-injured people on weekends, AFR.  wink

    • Rowdy says:

      11:59am | 20/10/09

      What difference AFR? They both present at ER’s with injuries demanding to be treated. Still costs the tax payer. Still a burden on the health system.

    • WHR says:

      12:00pm | 20/10/09

      David C,

      I don’t smoke, drink or eat fast food. I do exercise but I am overweight, is this relevant? No.

      I simply do not care about a small increase in taxes for such things, since I don’t consume them.

    • E says:

      12:25pm | 20/10/09

      easy ....

      (((?t + %sugar) / (1/GI) )* grams ) * fat tax constant(say 0.01c) = added cost for food

      The %sugar, ?t, glycemic index and weight of a product are already on the label so the manufacturers know it, its pretty simple to add that value to the the wholesale list price.

      The problems with a flat fat tax the price of high fat foods is that they disproportionally penalise expensive products while its the cheapies which cause the problems (not too many people getting heart attacks from pate, loads from cheap burgers).

      User pays smile

    • Daphon says:

      12:30pm | 20/10/09

      What it boils down to is this:  we live in a society and we pay taxes.  Some of those taxes go towards things we don’t use, somethings we do use.

      To quibble over who gets what is really just selfish and uncaring - who knows what the future holds for any of us?  We just may need tax-paid services that we don’t envision today.

    • Margaret Gray says:

      12:47pm | 20/10/09

      “...I simply do not care about a small increase in taxes for such things, since I don’t consume them…”

      Spoken like a true Socialist.

      Amidst the epic fail of your chosen dogma, can you even recognise the irony in your statement?

    • J says:

      12:47pm | 20/10/09

      And once everyone stops eating junk food and starts living to 90yrs old… just how much of a strain on the heath care system will that be?

    • WHR says:

      12:58pm | 20/10/09

      Hoo boy Margaret, that is a big call for someone who hates unions and is a fan of Workchoices.

    • Adam says:

      12:58pm | 20/10/09

      @ Margaret Gray

      You really don’t understand socialism, do you.

    • RT says:

      01:00pm | 20/10/09

      The perpetually sneering Margaret Gray is back to try and make those who don’t agree with her POV feel inferior. I admit to not seeing the irony in WHR’s statement, nor can I see that it was spoken like a true socialist. Please enlighten me, Margaret.

    • David C says:

      01:11pm | 20/10/09

      E there is no difference between calories in sugar and calories in other foods, why should we tax sugar??

    • AFR says:

      01:19pm | 20/10/09

      Ok, Rowdy, why have free healthcare at all? I mean, all injuries are a burden on the system! Do you work for Fox News?

    • E says:

      01:25pm | 20/10/09

      DAvid, no difference in particular, calories would have been better.
      Also since low GI is ‘good’ the GI factor shouldn’t be inverted…

      (?t + %energy)*GI*fat constant
      another possibility

      calories * GI * fat constant

      or ((calories * fat%) + calories)*GI * fat constant

    • E says:

      01:27pm | 20/10/09

      rowdy is attempting to ‘miss the point’ in a technical sense, by ignoring the unstated premise that we penalise people for harm incurred while indulging in activities despite knowing better. Not sure who he thinks is impressed by this sort of low-rent spin anymore, but im sure we all do our best.

    • N says:

      01:30pm | 20/10/09

      @David C

      The difference is that a calorie of sugar does you ZERO good other than a quick flash of energy (or fat - depending if you use it immediately)

      A calorie from a carrot for example, will give you a higher quality, lower GI calorie, (longer lasting energy) along with some vitamins, minerals and fibre all of which contribute to keeping you out of hospital.

      Duh?

    • David C says:

      01:39pm | 20/10/09

      In terms of weight gain or loss a calorie is a calorie. In terms of good for you; so am I going to have pay a tax to have a Tim Tam with my coffee? Or should I just have a brussel sprout instead?

    • E says:

      01:50pm | 20/10/09

      yep you pay a tax on the time-tam, a new tax as well as the ones you already pay. And the more you abuse high calorie high GI foods, the more you pay. simple really.

    • N says:

      01:57pm | 20/10/09

      @David C

      If you think that healthy eating is just about calories & weight gain then I’m going to stop wasting my breath.

    • RT says:

      01:59pm | 20/10/09

      E: I don’t indulge in Rugby League and haven’t done for ages because of the high risk of injuries, even though the exercise and team thing might be good for me. I keep fit by what I think are less risky methods eg swimming. Don’t you think there is some point to be made here about injuries incurred in high risk sports, and should people playing these sports be expected to carry private insurance?

    • E says:

      02:05pm | 20/10/09

      meh rugby players are like thoroghbred horses, and should just be shot if they get injured, easily replaced and cheaper for the clubs that way

      seriously though, RT, I dont have a good reason why I dont agree with you, but it just doesnt feel right. Perhaps I’ve been brainwashed by the sporting propoganda our nation is drenched in (given my opening sentence I dont think so) but somehow taxing or penalising people for sports seems wrong. Maybe we should draw the line at the second knee reco, I dunno.

      Also injuries incurred during sports tend to be acute, that is they happen quickly and then heal eventually. Injuries./disease incurred by abusing high fat foods never heal, so the costs of care are increased by the longevity of the treatment. Further I suspect that there are a lot more people cramming down burgers watching the rugby than injuring themselves playing it.

    • David C says:

      02:07pm | 20/10/09

      N I obviously dont but surely the goal of healthy eating is to be errh healthy. Do you honestly believe a Tim Tam after dinner is going to make me unhealthy? But you expect me to be taxed for it?? Im sorry I dont get it.
      Those that eat 400 Tim Tams a week are still going to eat a lot of Tim Tams anyway,
      This stinks to me more of another tax for revenue sake as opposed to health benefits.

    • E says:

      02:09pm | 20/10/09

      RT - in conclusion, and I dont have the data here to confirm, I think that the overall costs from a single patient with say Type 2 diabetes or heart disease is larger than those for a rugby player with a busted knee, and that there are far more people indulging in poor eating habits than in high risk sport. further high risk sport has some social benifit (ooh ahh look at that), while fatty foods are an indulgence based on out of date perceptions (our primitive ancesotors didnt get enough to eat, so we loooove the taste of fat anbd sugar for evolutionary reasons).

      So in conclusion in conclusion, while there may be philosophical equivalences between the high risk eater and the high risk sportsman, i the broader social context I dont think the two are equivalent.

      Also theres only so many acute injuries a person can sustain until they (or their family) get the hint, wile heart disease is insidious and creeps up on you without warning.

    • COF says:

      02:18pm | 20/10/09

      There are a lot of responses here that produce perfectly defined lines where one can legislate and ensure that people that abuse the system are on one side, while the titans of our country such as WHR who don"t indulge in anything are on the other side.

      Unfortunately it isn’t like that. Not all overweight people are excessively indulgent, not all indulgent people are inconsiderate, not all non indulgent people are excessively proud. If the line is blurred, and we can’t ensure that legislation will be effective, where do we legislate? Nowhere.

      I’ve covered the tax argument (i.e. my taxes pay for their mars bar habit) that many nanny staters put up before - it is a really self serving argument, and is not based on any semblence of fact. By increasing the average life expectancy you are putting the government burden on the aged care system rather than the health system. You are effectively moving the budget burden to a different government department. Would you call people who live excessively long and healthy lives and put strain on aged services selfish people? No of course not, because that would mean you were culpable.

    • SteveB says:

      03:13pm | 20/10/09

      AFR, are you serious? You can’t see a difference between people engaging in a healthy activity (walking, cycling, swimming) and those who get exercise in contact/high impact sports and hurt themselves and others.

    • macca says:

      03:39pm | 20/10/09

      I pay tens of thousands of dollars each year in tax, have never collected government assistance, so I should be able to eat and drink whatever the bloody hell I like!
      We live in the most over governed country on the planet, why can’t the government let people be responsible for their own decisions. Fair enough, you eat and drink too much and get sick, but you’ll pay the ultimate penalty, death,  with nobody to blame but yourself!

    • JD says:

      04:30pm | 20/10/09

      Ultimate Penalty? Death? I dunno, living in an over governed over taxed country full of neanderthals and no hopers encouraged to breed 10 fold by some stupid financial incentive is a fate worse than death.

    • Brian B says:

      04:58pm | 20/10/09

      The whole article is cynical at best.
      While I don’t particularly agree with nanny state legislation, we need to focus on the best means to get people involved in a reasonably healthy lifestyle.
      If we have some success in this, a more productive and active population will result in less overload and expense on the health system.

    • Robbo says:

      05:42pm | 20/10/09

      $2 million - not billion!

    • Shaun says:

      05:58pm | 20/10/09

      Re the rugby injury debate - the cost is indeed long term. A lot of the injuries incurred degenerate as people age and end up as chronic conditions.

      Re sugar vs other calories. Sugar stimulates insulin production, which in turn causes fat storage. So sugar is not the same as other calories.

      Re taxing fatty and sugary foods (more), why should those who like a little treat have to pay for the small percentage of people who over indulge?

    • Razor says:

      06:00pm | 20/10/09

      I am quite comfortable with the idea of tax dollars being spent/invested in information/education campaigns to promote healthy lifestyles.

      I am against taxes trying to achieve social outcomes - they are often poorly targetted, regressive and ineffective.  Obesity, for example, is generally a disease of the less affluent.  Any tax targetting fat or calories would be regressive which increases inequality.  Alcohol and tobacco taxes already have this effect.

      The hypocrisy of the inequality and regressive nature of sin taxes is that those who support them in order to achieve social/health outcomes generally are from the left of politics (and bang on about inequality etc)

      Given scientific evidence of the harm smoking does I wish governments woul just get some balls and ban tobacco products.  If you tried to introduce smoking these days it wouldn’t be allowed - can’t see why it should continue.

      If alcohol is going to be taxed, despite this being a regressive tax, it should be done based purely on alcohol volume and not the dogs breakfast of a system we currently have.

    • Greg Hill says:

      06:08pm | 20/10/09

      Just another reason to increase the size of the already overly large bureaucracy we have in this country. Ultimately all politicians would like to dictate every aspect of our lives and this is something we have to actively discourage.

    • D says:

      06:18pm | 20/10/09

      Preventive health is an excellent idea. It is far cheaper to society to ensure that everyone is healthy than it is to only think about health once people are sick. It seems a shame that our approach to problems like this is often such a negative one with first calls always to tax or ban things. People can also be encouraged to be healthy through positive means - tax deductions on sports club memberships, tax incentives to cycle or walk to work. Education is also important. Unfortunately companies that sell unhealthy food have a much larger advertising budget than even our big-advertising governments.

    • Cyclone says:

      06:36pm | 20/10/09

      In New Zealand under a Labour Government, nanny state became a highly successful attack meme for the opposition - probably created by a firm of Aussie political consultants.

    • Chase Stevens says:

      07:43pm | 20/10/09

      Think of these taxes as a way to support the thousands who use the public health system when their arteries are so clogged that they require hospitalisation. Think of them as a way to by replacement beds while the people who have smoked and consumed junk food to excess which they knew would have “health consequences” take up needed beds. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

    • Eamon says:

      08:08pm | 20/10/09

      I suppose Novak will be there to pick up the tab when irresponsible smokers and drinkers, armed with the self righteousness this column provides, continue to guzzle liquor and puff cigarettes in defense of our civil liberties?

      Will she be there when health costs skyrocket as we haul ailing slobs into hospitals, crying out for the health system and OUR TAXES to save them from themselves?

      To suggest that people should not be encouraged -whether by carrot or stick- to take responsibility for their own health is to ignore one of the greatest threats to this country’s finances over the next 30 years.

      Of course, its very easy to dismiss preventative health and provide offer nothing in its place, especially if you have nothing positive to contribute. Not that the IPA ever gave a damn about anything other than taking pot shots at Labor governments.

    • Rusty says:

      10:45pm | 20/10/09

      This is crazy. Tax on cigarettes is already so high that Aussie smokers pay not only for the cost of treating smoking-relating or -induced diseases, but contribute a substantial sum of money to cancer research and other medical pursuits through special legislation designed to offset the problems cause by cigarettes.
      Smokers make a conscious choice every time they light up their cigarettes (which now cost around 50c each) and know the consequences. If Nanny Nicola wants to establish a preventative health plan, she should consider a few things first, like how impinging free choice is always unpopular, and usually ends up failing. Or perhaps how this preventative health plan may lead to long-term funding problems for cancer research due to decreased cigarette tax revenues from less smokers overall, combined with a steady rate of new cigarette-related diseases over the lifetime of current smokers.

      Maybe you don’t always know what’s best for us?

    • Wayne H says:

      06:40am | 21/10/09

      Spot on Rusty. You must be crazy if you think this is a good thing. How much bloody tax do you want us to pay. The experts are in most cases wrong and that is the issue. Who is right and who is wrong? Don’t use coconut oil, WRONG Fluoride is good for you, WRONG Bromide in your bread is good for you, WRONG. I could keep going about this but I think I have made my point. $133 million for experts is just plain dumb.
      What are the consequences of a mouth full of rotting teeth? In some cases it’s death. Is our Government aware of this fact? I think so. So why is there a 7 year waiting list in Bundaberg to see a public dentist?  Shouldn’t these things be addressed before we waste money on more experts?
      I am big enough to make my own decisions on what is good for me and I would suggest others do the same. In or around 1985 the Government instructed bakers to remove Iodine form our bread and replace it with bromide. A dumb move which has just been reversed as it is a must for your thyroid. The lack of it makes your children dumb. Ask the Victorian Gov. Your body can’t fight off disease without it, hence a rise in cancer.
      That’s just one example of many when experts get it wrong.
      Do your own research….

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      10:22am | 21/10/09

      I found this article on the BBC about discrimination against the overweight.
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/health/8314125.stm >  It makes for interesting reading.  Personally I’m fed up with all the judgemental statements being made about this issue and would be interested to see if it ever constituted a “hate crime” as discussed here.

    • SandDollar says:

      02:32pm | 21/10/09

      Well the only fun things left, everything else if offensive apparently. Not sure this is the role of government. Business and government getting into areas of life and culture too much and too often.

 

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