It is just a matter of time before we once again see an outraged local community - concerned Mums, Dads and Grandparents – holding placards and rallying against having convicted paedophile Dennis Ferguson as a neighbour.

Dennis Ferguson brings out the ugly side of the community for a reason

It’s happened at least 4 times in the last 5 years, and the scene will be replayed over and over. Each time we see public opinion divide into two camps – the larger one believing that this repeat-offender ought not be living in any community with children (and certainly not theirs), and the smaller camp decrying vigilantism and claiming the guy has a right to live in the community having “done his time”.

But let’s stop for a moment and look at the concept of “having done his time”.

What does our society consider an appropriate sentence to fit the crime of “sexually penetrating” (let’s call it what it is – raping) a small child?  Or three children?

This guy planned his crime while doing time in Long Bay jail for a range of offences that included “various assaults on children and indecent assaults on females”.

When he was released from jail, he and a “partner” tracked down a fellow inmate’s three young children – aged 6, 7 and 8 - he abducted them from their home in Sydney, flew them to Brisbane, where he held the children prisoner and repeated raped them until the police arrived some days later.

The Judge in Ferguson’s trial said the chances of rehabilitation were zero – but he was sentenced to just 14 years.  14 years for a crime so premeditated and so vile.  A crime that no doubt imposed a life sentence on the most vulnerable of victims – three small children.

Sadly though – this is not a one off case.

We appear to have somewhat of a double-standard when it comes to sexual offences.  If they are perpetrated against an adult without their consent, it’s an aggressive act and very serious business.

If they are perpetrated against a child, it’s that less-talked-about, child molestation “thing”.  The focus seems to shift to the sexual deviancy of the perpetrator and away from the victim.

While it is difficult to get a clear understanding of the sentencing of child rape vis a vis adult rape, as many jurisdictions classify them all as “sexual offences”, there is evidence that we do not afford our children the same level of “sentencing protection” as they would have as adults.

The Victorian Sentencing Advisory Council provides statistical information on sentencing. It found that in that State from 2006-07 to 2007-08, the average effective sentence term for cases with “sexual penetration” of a child aged 10-16 was just 1.9 years for a single offence.

It was just 3.3 years if the child was younger than 10. In fact, if there had been up to 10 sexual offences committed against the child, those averages rose to just 4.8 years and 5.2 years.

The median length of imprisonment for rape of an adult was 5 years, with sentences varying from 2 to 20 years.

I am not for one moment arguing that one crime is less heinous than the other – they are both abhorrent.

But I do believe we have a special duty of care to protect the most vulnerable in our community – and our innocent, trusting children are high on that list.

When I rose in Federal Parliament earlier this year to raise this issue, I pointed out it is not something that people like to talk about because it is one of those very distasteful and disturbing issues.

It’s estimated that, from an economic standpoint, child abuse costs our nation about $4 billion a year – the social price we pay is much, much higher.  Women who have been abused as children have a considerably higher risk of experiencing sexual violence in adulthood that the rest of us (54% compared to 26% for all women).

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect is that the sexual offences that come to the attention of the police are only a small proportion of the sexual offences that occur in the community.

Sadly, most victims of sexual offences are victimised by someone known to them – most commonly a family member. This is a problem that needs addressing.

Tougher sentences certainly need to be looked at, the way we view the crime of paedophilia needs to the re-thought, the terminology we use to describe crimes against children should be stronger, the outrage we feel as a community shouldn’t be confined to when a paedophile moves into our community…it needs to be ongoing.

Clearly the concepts of trust, protection and love within a family need to be re-enforced in our society and the value of children and good parenting needs to be underscored.

The premature sexualisation of children in the media also needs to be examined, as does the trend to excuse aberrant behaviour through moral relativism.  We may be facing an uphill battle there – just look at the way Hollywood has rallied to absolve filmmaker Roman Polanski of his crime of having sex with a 13 year-old child.

This isn’t a problem that has one easy quick-fix.

But it is a problem that we need to acknowledge and discuss. Let’s not wait until one sick offender moves to a nearby house – let’s start waving the placards now and talk about this scourge, shed some light on it, and call on our policy makers to do more to address it.

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    • watto says:

      06:41am | 02/10/09

      Child victims lose out because media seeking politicans keep chasing their tails and sighing and theorising in the media. You had your chance in power but you contributed to the problem by allowing ten of thousands of kids to slip into poverty and other at- risk situations. Protecting and helping kids requires a massive injection of social funds and commitment, something the Libs were not prepared to do. (Instead you invested heavily in Wars on Everything Else.) Hypocrisy does not cover the fact that you are without solutions and just parasitising the hysteria and feeding the witchhunt merry-go-round for your own selfish political benefit.

    • Liz says:

      07:16am | 02/10/09

      Paedophiles do not respond to rehabilitation, They are psychopaths, so feel no remorse.They should not receive light sentences and be goaled for life.Children will always be in danger.The concept of them having done their time is spurious.

    • Eric says:

      07:34am | 02/10/09

      Gee, watto, turning this into a partisan political whinge is really helpful.

      I think we need to recognise that true paedophilia is a sexual orientation and can’t be changed. Therefore, paedophiles can never be reformed—they can only be active, or inactive.

      Inactive ones should be helped to remain inactive. Active ones should be kept away from society, pretty much for life. Though this need not be in a prison environment—those who have ‘served their time’ could be segregated in somewhat better conditions, but segregated they should be.

    • John A Neve says:

      07:38am | 02/10/09

      Sophie,
      While I agree with your comment, it’s surely only the tip of the iceberg. Ten years for murder, I’ll plead guilty to manslaughter if you drop the murder chareg !! Jail sentencies fully suspended, the list goes on.

      What is require is a full review of our criminal penalties and public input.

    • Hot Rod says:

      07:50am | 02/10/09

      The second Federal Lib working over a NSW state issue!
      Looks like they have given up on Kevin and will take consolation from winning in NSW.
      Looks like they better get use to the little offices and the drive-yourself cars!
      The big questions here are:
      Are Soph and Scotty unable to find a Federal issue to comment on?
      Where are the lazy, lazy NSW Libs?

    • Ted Flack says:

      08:17am | 02/10/09

      The comparisons of sentences for those convicted of sexual crimes needs to be considered against the three objectives of custodial sentences - protection of society, punishment and rehabilitation.

      Very few people who are familiar with our prison systems think that they have much capacity to rehabilitate. Some people would argue that there has been a softening of the degree to which prison punishes. The protection of society principle is clearly the issue in the Ferguson case. He may well have done his time (punished) and given there is evidence that he has been resistant of efforts to rehabilitate him, we are entitled to continuing protection for our kids.

    • iansand says:

      08:32am | 02/10/09

      The bad news is that the act is what affects the kids.  The sentencing is something that is too abstract to have much effect on a child.

      What you should be doing is trying to head the offenders off before the act. That means devoting resources to treating the mentally ill and also to reduce the vulnerability of children by providing a normal social environment.  Paedophiles prey on the vulnerable, not secure, confident kids. This requires imagination and money. 

      Increasing sentences does absolutely nothing at all to the rate of offending, as any proper study will tell you.  Fortunately, increasing sentences lets politicians posture about being “tough on crime”.  Posturing, after all, is what this is all about.

    • Yon Toad says:

      08:42am | 02/10/09

      Watto & Hot Rod - So it’s all about politics is it? Believe it or not, you pair of tools, some things transcend party politics!

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      08:43am | 02/10/09

      The only two viable alternatives are life imprisonment, “never to be released” or capital punishment. So which outcome do you favor, Sophie?
      (not that it matters, but I’m an advocate of capital punishment for such crimes, that’s just my opinion)

    • SR says:

      08:44am | 02/10/09

      “Child victims lose out in sentencing of sex offenders” – (lets see how many comments you get for mentioning the words “child”, “sex”, “offender”?)

      Sophie Mirabella previous aticles titled:

      “The hypocrisy of the Labor sisterhood” – 18 Sep 09 (6 comments)

      “Big Brother Rudd ignores the family in education” – 04 Sep 09 (24 comments)

      “Future of childcare: where have all the parents gone?” – 24 Aug 09 (17 comments)

      “The me generation in charge of the who generation?” – 08 Aug 09 (6 comments)

      “Labor’s childcare magic pudding” – 31 Jul 09 (3 comments)

      “Some women just don’t want to break the glass ceiling” – 11 Jun 09 (13 comments)

    • Wayne says:

      09:26am | 02/10/09

      You silly silly woman!!! Most (not all) of the placard wavers are offenders of some type themselves. It’s the old “he who yells loudest must be dead against it” I remember when I was a soldier some 30 odd years ago one of my best mates was homophobic. Would punch the you know what out of anyone he suspected of being a poof. Ten years ago his wife caught him in bed with another man. The guy who placed the coffin at Fergusons door is a bit suspect to me or maybe it was just his way of getting his 2 minutes worth of fame. Still makes me sick to the stomach looking at it (fool). Funny how nearly the whole of France are calling for a child rapist to be set free and no one seems to batter an eyelid. Where are the howls of disgust from you over that? Ferguson should have never been set free that is for sure but you encouraging more placard waving strikes me as a bit of poor form. You and your failed party obviously have too much time on your hands and should not be involved in this issue.  You are supposed to be holding the current gov to account! How about some focus for a bit hey!!!!

    • Kate says:

      09:28am | 02/10/09

      Congratulations Sophie Mirabella on raising this issue. You have expressed exactly what I have been thinking since the Ferguson issue flared. As a community we need to say that children and their welfare is paramount to us. A life sentence with no parole would be fitting for the crimes committed by Ferguson. I would also like to see a cost comparison of keeping someone like Ferguson in jail and the cost of the police time, housing and everyone else of housing him and keeping tabs on him.

    • Stephen Pickells says:

      09:46am | 02/10/09

      Whilst nobody would disagree that child sexual abuse is the most hateful of crimes, there are still degrees of seriousness.
      Some people say that Dennis Ferguson should have been jailed for life or even put down. If this is suitable punishment for him, what’s appropriate for the guy who allegedly held his daughter under house arrest for thirty years, raped her every day and fathered several children with her?
      To me, this is far worse than what Ferguson did.

    • Bob says:

      10:17am | 02/10/09

      The problem with increasing the penalty to a life sentence, which is what a paedophile deserves at the very least, is that you have now given the crime the equal worst sentence possible with murder. Therefore, how many children do you believe will survive their ordeal? What punishment is there for also killing the child, who is also the prime witness, and therefore giving you a reduced chance of getting caught?
      We as a society are too conservative with our laws, yet too liberal on their enforcement.
      We accept that some people can commit acts which in turn causes them to lose some rights, otherwise we would not have prisons.
      Therefore, I beleive, given the points I just made, that it is possible for a person to lose their right to be sexually active, and certainly a paedophile should lose their right to have children of their own. Medical castration is an option which needs to be discussed for human filth like Dennis Ferguson.

    • pc says:

      10:22am | 02/10/09

      Please imagine the music to the commercial for snappy tom cat food

      Got it. Good.

      “The Ar#$holes of australia have made their choice
      It’s Dennis.
      It’s Dennis Ferguson”

      So Sophie has again decided to persecute someone that cannot fight back. She has attacked a man who is indefensible. This is a NATION OF LAWS. Its not often one has the opportunity to quote Thomas More and yet I do so without any pleasure. “What would you have us do? Cut down all the laws to get at the devil? And when the last law was down and devil turned on you, where would you hide?”

      Malcolm Turnbull spent all day yesterday saying he didnt want to be the leader of a party with nothing to say and no ideas. Well Sophie has proved she has no ideas or at least no ideas beyond rabble rousing and the lynch mob. (These are two of her favourite ideas though).

      She has also proved she has nothing to say. (Everything she has said has been said many many times before) As Iansand makes the point the only way to protect children is prevention - its a little late after the crime and no amount of punishment is going to alter what happened. Clearly there needs to be a rethink of how we protect our commuities but this kind of frothing at the mouth makes it clear she is more interested in casting herself as some kind of vigilante rather than protecting our communities. You are paid to do a job Sophie - perhaps you should make a start.

    • Terry Wright says:

      10:32am | 02/10/09

      As Eric(07:34am) points out, it’s someone’s sexual orientation and therefore usual permanent. It needs to be treated as a biological issue not a crime. If they do commit a crime, punishment is due but after that we need to think and act rationally like the advanced society we are supposed to be. The days are over where conservatives dictate what is a crime by way of their personal views and the instant need to resolve everything with harsher penalties. iansand(8:32am) sums it up very well.

      We need to take away the stigma attached to paedophilia and let those who are born that way to seek help before they offend. It has to made clear that their sexual orientation is natural but the act itself is a crime. Those that choose to have sex with children should be punished but there needs to be help available for those who recognise they may be that way inclined before they offend. Complex issues sometimes need complex solutions.

    • Front Row says:

      10:52am | 02/10/09

      I’m kind of with PC on this. If we use the angry mob chanting outside the door as a model of how we deal with decisions we don’t agree with, then why was the mob outside Dennis’s door - and not on the steps of Parliament House?
      No matter what we might think of his abhorrent history, can you blame the guy for living?  I am more concerened about the feedback loop that seems to buzz between the media and the outraged, “decent folks”.  We have a legal system that, with all its many failings is meant to protect all of us from the disasters that can follow if you go far enough along the path of media sanctification of mob-rule.

    • watto says:

      10:58am | 02/10/09

      @yon @eric it is a political and a hysteria issue when the 2 Lib MPs this week have scurried out of the woodwork looking for a cheap look-at-me-I-sound-tough freekicks. Am I partisan? Not really. I can accept that the problem might be biological or more broadly related to Labor/Lib starving services & kicking mentally ill/ disabilities out of homes onto the streets.

    • Dave says:

      11:02am | 02/10/09

      If anyone ever molests any of my children I will knock them out, cut off their testicles and put them in a blender.  I will then call an ambulance and the police.  The fact is the consequences off child molesting are far too lax.  As far as I’m concerned if you rape or molest a child or a woman you’ve lost the right to live as a man.

    • Ben says:

      11:08am | 02/10/09

      Good on you TW for confronting what no one really wants to contemplate - that there will be people who are born with these perversions. Society has a problem with this because we have lost any sense of balance in what can be simplistically labelled as the ‘nature v nurture’ debate. Most people and policy makers want to believe that we can eliminate evils like paedophillia through enlightened policies. While these are essential for the protection of society - they do not address the cause of the problem.
      I think you are also brave in your use of the word natural as it has come to have very positive connotations. I take it you mean that the perversion is naturally occurring in a tiny miniority of people?
      Like others I think life imprisonment is the only safe and appropriate option for most of these individuals.
      While most of us have an appropriate abhorrence of the crime and overwhelming sympathy for victims, the horrifying impact is not really understood by society.
      Childhood sexual abuse not only shatters the victim in way that I can only imagine but it affects their family members for generations. Victims, for entirely understandable reasons, often have extreme difficulties in trusting anyone and I can tell you from personal experience how corrosive this can be on family relationships. They often have a searing anger at the world much of the time accompanied by an aching and profound sadness. A level of fear and anxiety can also be brought to everyday life which can border on the paranoid. Understandable fears can be passed on to their children who can be sheltered to absurd levels which can have a negative impact on their development so that they can also come to share in some measure the lack of trust which can lead to them experiencing difficulty in forming relationships themselves. Then of course there is the ultimately horrifying fact that offenders are often victims themselves.
      The scope of the impact of childhood sexual abuse should mean that it is not a political football or a soap box for either ‘men’s movement’ or feminist agitprop.‘Lord of the Flies like responses or images as shown above do not serve to protect any child.  The issue should be assessed rationally and with as much lack of emotion as can be managed with such a tragic issue. My comments are not in any way to be interpreted to mean that victims can not go on to lead happy lives with happy relationships and families etc or to ever excuse the abhorrent actions of paedaphiles.

    • Brendan says:

      11:49am | 02/10/09

      Once more I am delighted to see the angry mob stirred up.  Its nice to see people filled with a rightous rage when they are absolutely sure the person on the receiving end can do nothing against them.  Its also nice to see the political class having the guts to go after someone who can’t fight back and throwing some red meat to the crowd.

      Wonderful stuff.

      However, I’m quitely sure that all this courage to defend the community would dissolve if someone like Neddy Smith was given housing in their little neighbourhood. 

      The brave fellow who delivered a fake coffin to old Dennis wouldn’t have done it had the person on the receiving end been just as likely to answer the insult by picking up an iron bar and caving his head in.

      But still, like all yapping dogs, the mob feel brave laying into the defenceless.

    • mikk says:

      12:40pm | 02/10/09

      One thing overlooked is the effect on families of increased penalties. As the author admitted most child sexual assault is by someone known to the child. A parent, sibling etc. If the offender is to be locked up forever then the child may be under increased pressure not to say anything. Even molested kids would baulk at being responsible for sending a family member to life imprisonment.

      l think the media should shutup, they are the ones stoking the fear and mob mentality over what is actually a quite rare and impossible to completely eradicate crime. Pedophiles will always be with us and we should do all we can to protect children from them but mobs and the sensationalist tabloid shock jocks are not the ones to listen to when it comes to the best way to stop such deviants.

    • LK Looking says:

      01:20pm | 02/10/09

      Nothing like someone who looks like the paedophile from central casting to be an easy target, eh!
      What is Sophie the Wise going to do about really putting a bell on the real cat?
      What can she suggest about Parish Priests, uncles, neighbours and sports coaches - because they encompasses 95% of sexual assaults on children in Australia.

    • Greggo says:

      01:29pm | 02/10/09

      “Concerned Mums, Dads and Grandparents” – got to love the caps!
      There’s no doubt Sophie learnt to whistle from her Uncle John very, very well.
      Or maybe it’s just an old line from Mike Moore on Frontline.
      I think a fair percentage of Nazi sympathisers during WWII were “Concerned Mums, Dads and Grandparents” too. Oh no!
      Ditto Labor voters, ditto NRMA members, ditto left-handed adults or people who watch football.
      What a vacuum of intellect the Federal opposition is…...

    • mac says:

      01:41pm | 02/10/09

      pedophiles can not be rehabilitated, even the judge said so, and the only way we can insure that a pedophile will not re-offend is if they are in jail. i suspect those who say that Ferguson deserves to live in peace are unaware of the specifics of his crime and if they did they would think other wise.  (most the time in the media he is refereed to as “pedophile Denise Ferguson”, maybe if he was was refereed to more often as ” a man who held captive and raped 3 children repeatedly over several days” people would be less compassionate toward him.

    • Brian says:

      03:11pm | 02/10/09

      Two solutions - capital punishment or general population jail time (then victimising others will become all too real when the offender becomes the victim).

      Politicians have a choice because here such vile and violent acts are unlikely to be left to the law to cast judgement. So they either legislate to make the punishment fit the crime or face the possibility (probability) of more vigilantes roaming the streets dispensing justice.

    • iansand says:

      03:26pm | 02/10/09

      The problem with the usual dutch auction of increased sentences is that, to be eligible for sentencing, a person must already have committed a crime.  A victim must already have suffered.  I don’t know if there are ways to identify paedophiles and give them therapy but this strikes me as a better result than locking them away.  Focussing on punishment is a failure of political imagination.

    • pc says:

      03:40pm | 02/10/09

      Mac (1.41) You are unable to tell the difference between defending a peodophile and subverting the laws that protect us all. Its not that complicated.

    • Jay says:

      03:45pm | 02/10/09

      Once again - Politicians are all for punishment, after their poorly thought through policies cause the break down of society…

      Sophie – you may like to reflect how White Australia got established, before you act all concerned and pious over this matter…

      You’re starting to sound like Mrs. Lovejoy – and hysteria does not protect children.

    • Bron says:

      05:06pm | 02/10/09

      @Bob has it right-abhorrent as the crime paedophilia is, if you make the punishment equal to that of murder, the offender has nothing to lose in killing his victims. At least under the current laws, the victim has a chance of survival & with love & time, hopefully some form of recovery. Surely it isn’t worth risking the life of one child to ensure a paedophile is jailed for life to stop them offending again? Unfortunately paedophilia is a crime that has always been with us-in history & some cultures often not even viewed as a crime. I don’t think it is possible to remove the danger-all we can do as a society is educate children to report unacceptable behaviours from adults, try & encourage adults with these impulses to seek help before they offend & ensure that those who have offended & served their sentence are kept away from hands-on roles with children. As has been pointed out, the real danger for most children is someone in their own circle, not the random stranger. Parents need to be vigilant & in touch with their kids & what they do with their time.

    • Cuppa says:

      06:40pm | 02/10/09

      PC, you are a fool & your kind & their weak way of thinking is reason for many of Australias woes.You sicken me.

    • Sharyn says:

      08:02pm | 02/10/09

      Paedophiles are dangerous forever. The are not “rehabilitated” and are unable and unwilling to control their distorted urges. They do not consider the pain they cause their victims. They have the minds of animals and only think about their sick, primitive urges. They should be kept in psychiatric institutions for life as they are always a danger. The ones who don’t get caught are even worse. The world is going to take a long time to finally acknowledge Paedophilia is not ok, not under the excuse of sexual deviance or the disgusting excuse of cultural and religious indoctrination.

    • Eric says:

      08:39pm | 02/10/09

      Jay—How is the Labor Party’s White Australia policy relevant to this discussion?

    • pc says:

      11:44am | 03/10/09

      Hi Cuppa - I’m really pleased and proud that I sicken you - it doesnt seem difficult though, and I look forward to doing it again in the future, and again and again and again. Ciao.

    • CUPPA says:

      04:30pm | 03/10/09

      HI PC, whatever helps you sleep at night.(but i bet you get REAL comfortable, what with having no spine, ha ha).Ta Ta

    • cat says:

      10:04pm | 03/10/09

      First off - let’s not turn this into a political slinging match - it’s much more important than that.
      I’d say that paedophilia is not as much a sexual orientation (which denies the victims their pain) as a psychological issue as plenty of paedophiles engage in sex with adults as well. I’ve no problems with capital punishment for these criminals.
      I think one of the main problems is that society tends to use less in your face words to describe vile sex acts…eg molestation or sexual assault, I know there are more just can’t think of them! Why not say - RAPE? If the news’ were reporting on rape and child-rape (much worse) instead of assualt maybe our collective awareness would increase. It’s like the towns and cities that don’t want CFS sirens going off - they might be made aware that someone, somewhere is in trouble!

    • Stephen Pickells says:

      10:02am | 04/10/09

      As a japester said to me: “The best thing about being a psychiatrist is that you never have to cure anyone”. Having been in therapy for more years than I can count, I know the truth in this statement.
      Pedophilia is a serious mental condition on a par with psycopathy. The subject cannot be cured. At best, the condition can be managed but the subject is more likely to want to keep it their dirty little secret.
      Monitoring known offenders is a good idea, but the best way for a parent to protect a child is to monitor the child.
      Unfortunately this doesn’t work when the perpetrator is also the parent. There are many instances where the mother is told that her child has been raped and she is either in denial or she won’t act because she is more concerned about her marriage than for the welfare of the child. In this case she is an accessory and is just as guilty as the perp.

    • pc says:

      01:46pm | 04/10/09

      Cat, you are completely right - it shouldnt be a political slanging match and I apologise. I had already said - paraphrased - persecuting peodophiles - however much we may want to do it - helps no one.  And a David above I think is honest and says that he would castrate someone that raped his children and then call the police. I appreciate your honesty David but how would you then going to gaol help your children. Not castrating him or killing him would be the difficult thing to do. And it would be the best for your child, so you could say it was the strong thing to do. Stephen Pickells above began to talk about actually protecting children but ended on finding more guilty parties. Lets talk about ways to protect children and prevent rape. I realise its not always possible but surely we could be doing a better job of it. We always seem to be talking about what we would do if we ever got our hands on them. This seems to me a very nihilistic way of thinking.

 

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