We forget to consult history at our peril. 

Blind justice: The push to enshrine human rights could actually deny them.

It is very relevant to the Rudd Government’s latest assault on the sovereignty of the people – that is the proposal of its hand picked committee, headed by Father Frank Brennan, to impose upon them a charter of rights masquerading under the title of a Human Rights Act.

The last time Labor tried for a bill of rights it was by way of a Constitutional amendment to insert a mini bill of rights with the aim of continual enlargement.

This was 1988 and at the time of announcement polling showed 80 per cent of people supported the proposals.

The Opposition, of which I was a part, opposed the referenda and set out to inform the Australian people what the consequences would be.

When acquainted with the facts and sound argument instead of the Government’s soft cuddly misleading words and spin, the 80 per cent polled yes vote turned into a 70 per cent actual NO vote. 

This was the largest rejection of any referenda put since Federation.

So this time yet another Labor Government is contemplating imposing a charter of rights by way of legislation using their numbers in the House to crunch it through and hoping for Green and independent support in the Senate.

They know full well that having rejected a bill of rights once in a referendum the Australian people will no doubt do it again.

We are indebted to eminent historian Professor Geoffrey Blainey for reminding us how Labor politicians have for generations hated the provision of S)128 of the Constitution which entrusts only the people – not politicians – to change the Constitution by way of referendum.

He writes as follows, in his contribution to a recently published book entitled Don’t Leave us with the Bill: The Case against an Australian Bill of Rights -

“An extraordinary attempt was made by the Scullin Government to eradicate the people’s referendum.  In 1930 his government successfully introduced into the House of Representatives the Constitution Alteration (Power of Amendment) Bill.  It would allow a party holding an absolute majority in each federal house to amend the Constitution.  No referendum would be required.

Realising that the High Court would have to declare whether this profound change and the spirit underlying it, infringed S)128 it appointed Dr H Evatt and E A McTiernan to the High Court: both had been Labor politicians in NSW, one in the state and the other in the federal Parliament.”

The Bill failed to pass into law because the Senate rejected it.  But quite clearly the loathing for having to submit to the will of the people continues.

The clear prevailing argument against a charter or bill of rights is that it hands over legislative making power from the Parliament comprised of the elected representatives of the people to the unelected judges appointed by Governments of the day.

The counter argument runs that judges in our common law system do consistently make law.  This is true but if the Parliament of the day disagrees with the outcome of a judge’s decision, the Parliament can and often does legislate to change the judge made law.  Thus the Parliament with its elected representatives is the ultimate law maker.

This power could be destroyed by a charter or bill of rights as it would be unelected judges who would decide whether a law, properly passed by the Parliament was valid or not, according to his or her (or their) interpretation as to whether it complied with the proposed Human Rights Act.

The Parliament would not legislate against a decision to declare a law invalid as any such subsequent legislation to re-instate the will of the Parliament would be struck down again.

Thus the ultimate law makers become unelected judges not the elected representatives in the Parliament.

The arguments against a legislated charter or bill of rights are just as powerful as they were in the 1988 referendum when the people spoke against a bill of rights being inserted in the Constitution.

The Rudd appointed Chair of the Committee recommending a charter via a Human Rights Act be imposed by legislation,  thereby avoiding the people, tries to argue that his consultation with 6,300 people and receiving 35,014 submissions of which 14,604 were from the lobby group Get-up.

What tosh!

The actual numbers of people who voted yes we want a bill of rights in the 1988 referendum was TWO MILLION eight hundred and ninety-six thousand, thee hundred and twenty-one (2,896,321).

98.52 per cent of people who were eligible to vote did so.  How much more convincing do the people have to be?

The “undemocratic” Labor elites, to use Geoffrey Blainey’s term, never give up.

The contempt for the people shown under Prime Minister Scullin with Labor’s attempt to eliminate the people’s voice when it comes to changing the Constitution is alive and well.

Mr Rudd should be straight forward about his committee’s recommendation and promise it will go to referendum .

If he wants this Human Rights Act then he must and allow all 13,865.806 Australians enrolled to vote to have their say and not have the view of the 6,300 people who went to a meeting and the 35,014 who sent a submission foistered upon the rest of us.

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    • B Pearson says:

      11:09am | 05/09/10

      I came across this website while doing some research for a Constitutional Law subject.  I don’t think I have ever seen any comment so blatantly biased as the turgid rubbish shown here, particularly this piece by Bishop.

    • What says:

      10:50pm | 20/10/09

      Here’s Brownyn talking about Labor pushing through legislation with their ‘numbers’, when her government took advantage of a Senate and House majority to impose WorkChoices!

      Give it up Bronwyn, you’re out of touch and out of time.

    • stephen says:

      02:09pm | 20/10/09

      A lot of legislation changes the value of language, but not of life. Having read the proposal, a sensible person would deem it unneccesary.

    • stevespater says:

      01:26pm | 20/10/09

      Never thought I’d get within a bulls roar of agreeing with B Bishop about anything, but I agree with her basic premise that we shdnt have a bar of a bill of rights. Not because those nasty lefties on the “other side” want it, or not even that it gives a kind of legislative power to judges. My reason is that by defining rights we limit them. In the carve up of democracies there are basically 2 attitudes to law and behaviour: the one (eg France) that says : Everything is forbidden unless the law allows it; The other that says (Like Britain, &  oz, for example) that says: Everything is allowed unless there is a law against it. I’d rather stick with the latter despite its vaguenesses. Dunno that I want ANY govt defining my rights for me.

    • Fred Major says:

      01:16pm | 20/10/09

      Currently rights issues are diputed in common law. Lawyers work in this area. With a Bill of Rights then, Bronnie’s claim is a furphie!

    • Common Law for Common Good says:

      01:09pm | 20/10/09

      Get Up! should be investigated- it claims independence but looks to me like a Left Wing pressure group full of old Commies and Labor stooges. I went to one of their meetings and we all got railroaded into supporting the stupid ‘Climate Change’ as top concern- just as I was beginning to realise that it had as much credibility as the Y2K bug.  The Bill of Rights only gives rights to crims, thugs and terrorists. If they bring it in here we’ll end up in the same ugly mess as Britain.

    • Fred Major says:

      12:56pm | 20/10/09

      Any issue which is legislated by govt implementation, and wasn’t an election issue is unelected action. Bronnie is keeping the bastards dishonest?

    • Carl Palmer says:

      11:13am | 20/10/09

      @ BW & Steve you are 100% correct. The people must decide if there is a need for a Bill of Rights.
      @ Sherlock, and don’t forget the fees they will no doubt charge!

      I don’t support a bill of rights. The attached URL is an excellent summary and highlights the types of conflicting circumstances which we will no doubt face at some point should we end up with a Bill of Rights.
       
      http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25448539-5013871,00.html

      For mine, throw the idea in the bin. If this or any government wants to pursue a Bill of Rights then they MUST call a Referendum and let the folks decide.

      Oh and finally, the author’s political persuasion in either of these articles is not a reason to support or oppose whether we do or don’t have a Bill of Rights.

    • Jennifer Nash says:

      11:07am | 20/10/09

      Dan 06:57am | 20/10/09 - You are absolutely spot on!  Why are the Liberals trying to bamboozle us with misinformation and scare us into believing that having 21st Century civil rights could possibly be a bad thing?  How could having a proper say and being able to put our hands up and be counted on the issues that really matter to us possibly be a bad thing?  http://www.buendnis-buergergesellschaft.de/typo3temp/pics/7bd1b222e3.jpg  Direct Democracy like they have in Switzerland rocks, (see photo above) and the high standard of living, health and education prove it really works.

      And about the furphy of giving power to unelected judges, consider this comment by retired Brisbane Supreme Court Judge Geoff Davies QC “government stacking the courts with political favourites is the main evil in the administration of justice in Australia (Courier Mail September 1, 2006). 

      “Australia has a very poor record of upholding ethical standards in public life - whether in government or in parliament more broadly.  I would argue very strongly for the need for an ethics commission at the federal level.”  Professor Malpas of the Australian Research Council, professorial fellow at the University of Tasmania.
      And Canberra Professor of Law, Margaret Thornton says Australia’s “attitude to human rights seems to befit colonial times.”  http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/Its-the-pre-season-round-on-a-Human-Rights-Act/  my comment: 02:47pm | 12/10/09
       
      In 1976 Australia signed the legally binding International Protocol on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).  The first Article of the ICCPR is the right to political and cultural self determination, which is just another right denied to us by our 3-tiered dictatorship.
      ... ”In Australia’s market democracy politicians are entrepreneurs who deliver political goods to the highest bidder. The suppliers occupy privileged positions in society because they maintain a monopoly situation in supply of such goods.  ... The political elite is also firmly against giving the electorate the right to a citizen-initiated referendum.  ...Attempts to change the system to a more representative one ... have been strongly opposed by the business community and leaders of the main political parties who see it as a threat to their political power.” says Erik Paul, Honorary Associate in Sociology at Macquarie University, Sydney. 

      Due to lack of press freedom my innocent teenage son’s ordeal and the gross miscarriage of justice against him has not been reported in Australia. 

      But The Wall Street Journal and many others have published my citizen journalist articles in this matter on several occasions and Mathaba has given us actual media coverage.

      Ms Bishop, I emailed and phoned your office regarding your comments on the Heiner Affair and would very much appreciate if you would consider giving attention to the human rights abuses my son has suffered and advocating for his civil rights too, just like you did for the Heiner Affair victims as our case is being suppressed, denied any attention and covered up from here to Timbuktu.  http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/Seeking-justice-for-a-forgotten-victim/  my comment - 08:22am | 09/10/09 The late US Senator Edward Kennedy of Boston (brother of the late President John F Kennedy) wrote to me and tried to assist my son where Australian politicians have so far failed. http://www.ctjnet.co.uk/CTJ Temporary Images/US Senator Letter.gif

      Thank you Ms Bishop. 

      My following citizen journalist articles detail our very personal experiences with human rights abuses, judicial abuse, judicial corruption, gross miscarriage and obstruction of justice and high level political cover-up.

      I am also trying to explain just how much on the nose human rights are to the political elite of this country.  Further details and coverage:

      Bullied schoolboy wants Anna Bligh to address judicial corruption   http://www.ctjnet.co.uk/cajc.htm
      Let the People Elect Judges http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=555335
      QLD Governor Wensley Silent On Judicial Abuse http://mathaba.net/news/?x=620047
      QLD Governor Silent on Judicial Corruption Claims Against Brother   http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=621126
      Armed Police Eject Mother From Queensland Parliament http://mathaba.net/news/?x=620379
      Australia’s lone stance against civil rights bill: how juristocracy enables this and blocks debate http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=616222
      Australia Day advertisement an insult to our intelligence http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=554768 Parliamentary Crime and Misconduct Committee a disgrace   http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/05/429716.html

    • hoofman says:

      10:33am | 20/10/09

      ‘Life’s rich tapestry’, Steve? Is this the answer you give 80% of the time, or 20%, when you are caught out on BS? Here’s a tip - don’t become a statistician. You wouldn’t want to ruin a theory that obviously gives you comfort.

    • Socrates says:

      10:11am | 20/10/09

      After wading through the usual political sniping from the urgers on both sides, the interesting thing about this debate is that many people still don’t get an important point.

      The most successful and wealthiest lawyers seem to be the ones who are best at telling legal lies so that their guilty criminal clients can be found not guilty.  Anyone who has histrionic abilities that can allow criminals to evade the consequences of their actions can demand high fees from those who have broken the law.

      Politics may not be regarded as a very honourable occupation, but at least we get the opportunity to vote the bastards in or out every three years.  Why on earth would we want to allow a sometimes very erratic legal industry to decide what legislation we are to have AND determine how it is to be applied?

      Judicial positions are rightly placed beyond influence by citizens, so that judges can not be pressured to reflect particular opinions in applying laws made by parliament.  Anybody outside the legal industry should be able to see the danger of handing the power to both create and apply laws to unelected, unrepresentative and undismissable judges.

    • Steve says:

      09:56am | 20/10/09

      All part of life’s rich tapestry Hoofman
      Even the 80 – 20 rule is wrong 20% of the time, which makes it right all the time?

    • mary says:

      09:52am | 20/10/09

      It is not only Labour Governments that loathe the will of the people. Here in the West we had THREE referenda on Daylight Saving, each one rejecting it. None-the-less we were forced to endure 3 years of it in a ‘trial’ before again, it was rejected in a referendum. We also recently rejected deregulated shopping hours, but the current Liberal Government is determined to implement it anyway. Face it…NO-ONE cares about the will of the people.

    • Martin says:

      09:08am | 20/10/09

      “This power could be destroyed by a charter or bill of rights as it would be unelected judges who would decide whether a law, properly passed by the Parliament was valid or not, according to his or her (or their) interpretation as to whether it complied with the proposed Human Rights Act.”However the interptrtation of those right are what we have to look out for,England is going through a legal nightmare atm,with there Bill Of Rights,and the same will happen here.The interpretation of Freedom,to some that could mean blowing up buses train and plane,the right to friendship,could mean associating with a Terrorist organisation,or friendship gained in prison,there for returning that person to there home land would now be impossible…I say if its not broken,dont fixit.

    • julia says:

      09:06am | 20/10/09

      There are some nasty comments above. Aren’t they lucky that their right to free speech is a given even though it’s not listed in a bill of rights?

      iansand has said the half of it. If you write it down, you may as well chisel it into two stone tablets, because it can’t be changed.

    • hoofman says:

      09:03am | 20/10/09

      @Steve 9:43am: How does the 80-20 rule work in politics again? In our system, the two-party preferred vote is usually around 51-49.

    • hoofman says:

      09:00am | 20/10/09

      Brownwyn the dinosaur tramples all over a delicate issue -  again. Go back to the Jurassic period where you belong and give up your safe seat to someone who belongs in the 21st century.

    • Steve says:

      08:43am | 20/10/09

      Just about everything in life comes down to the 80-20 rule
      80%  of your business comes from 20% of your customers
      80% of judge’s decision are sound 20 % of judges are off with the pixies
      The electrate has spocken on the question of the Liberals in Government and that is that, BUT this was not part of the platform for the labour party and if they want this put it too a referendum and see what the electorate says

    • Sherlock says:

      08:32am | 20/10/09

      Seeing society appears to distrust lawyers so much, I’m surprised they want to entrust them with so much power.

    • DaveA says:

      08:15am | 20/10/09

      Daniel you probably are Dan!

      The fact is we should have had a bill of rights for over a century.  Imagine a bill of rights drafted in 1900!  That would be awesome.  There would be absolutley no question that my wife is my undisputed property.  No doubt I would be entitled to keep as many aboriginal servants as I could feed and clothe, on the proviso of course that they never be educated. 

      Oh what joy it would be to have these historical human rights!! 

      If you want a bill of rights, argue it to the people you wish to impose it upon, don’t try and sneak it in the backdoor.  The same applies for the republic.

    • Darren says:

      08:12am | 20/10/09

      hey here’s an idea Bronnie - go and ask some of the 100+ homeless people who were asked their opinion about whether our rights are adequately protected - to an individual they said no - oh that’s right none of them are constituents of yours - btw, when are you going to give your seat to Jim Longley?

    • iansand says:

      08:11am | 20/10/09

      A right to bear arms?  A right to own slaves?  They would have been perfectly reasonable 250 years ago.

    • BW says:

      08:01am | 20/10/09

      One only need look at the ridiculous PC mess countries like Canada and the UK are in because of their growing obsession with human rights law to see the dangers of a Human Rights Act. And if you need any more proof, have a look at all the loony fringe minority groups lining up to support such a document to see where this thing will lead us.

    • Nick says:

      08:00am | 20/10/09

      “This power could be destroyed by a charter or bill of rights as it would be unelected judges who would decide whether a law, properly passed by the Parliament was valid or not, according to his or her (or their) interpretation as to whether it complied with the proposed Human Rights Act.”

      What tosh! The high Court already does this in relation to the constitutionality of legislation. A Bill of Rights would change nothing other than providing a check on Governments whose fortuitous control of both houses of parliament allows them to dictatorially pass legislation totally out of step with community attitudes or needs.

      Here we have another fear campaign whipped up by a party without ideas but a firmly held belief that they were born to rule and are not prepared to accept that the people showed them the door because of their dictatorial approach to government when they held unchallenged power.

      The American Constitution and the American system of government were deliberately developed to provide ‘checks and balances’ against any arm of government being able to override the others. A Bill of Rights for Australia would go a long way to providing such ‘checks and balances’.

    • Daniel says:

      07:37am | 20/10/09

      I agree with Dan. If the Liberal party wasn’t so hardline on nearly all issues Australia wouldn’t need to go down this road. Sorry Bronwyn again your party is way out of touch.

    • Wayne H says:

      07:27am | 20/10/09

      Its the Dans of this world who will be our undoing. I don’t agree with you often Ms Bishop but in this case you are dead right. DON’T LET THIS HAPPEN EVER! We have already lost most of our rights as the majority of our laws are bogus and have never received Royal Assent as per the constitution of Australia.

    • Joel B1 says:

      07:04am | 20/10/09

      “If it wasn’t for your party, we wouldn’t need a bill of rights”

      Rubbish, it’s Labor who are undemocratic. All that union money and no accountability, not mention the money Labor gets from their own Pokies.

    • Elector says:

      06:53am | 20/10/09

      Submit to the will of the people, eh. Quite so.

      So you’ll be voting for an ETS, then Ms Bishop. Good.

    • JB says:

      06:34am | 20/10/09

      Go Bronnie Go!!! Keep the bastards honest.

    • John A Neve says:

      06:10am | 20/10/09

      My main concern with a proposed Bill of Rights is as follows.
      We have 200 hundred years of legistlaion already on the books as a result a Bill of Rights will either have to be drafted to accommmodate them, or it will oppose them! 

      If the proposed Bill of Rights is in any aspect contrary to current legistlation what then? Do we scrap existing laws? Do we backdate laws to fit in with the new Bill? Should we at a later date become a republic, will we have to do this all over again?

      In my humble view if adhered to, our Constitution give us all the protection we need. The only problem being successive governments have tried to circumvent our Constitution.

    • Dan says:

      05:57am | 20/10/09

      Please. Considering the party you belong to, you are the last person to talk about righs. If it wasn’t for your party, we wouldn’t need a bill of rights.

 

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