NOW that we’ve all accepted Peter Garrett is a monstrous sell-out, can we get back to the real debate _ should we develop a nuclear power industry in Australia?

Not that exxxxcellent: Labor's schizoid stance on nuclear power and uranium is almost comical.

It’s a debate Labor desperately doesn’t want us to have. Note how quickly Penny Wong and Wayne Swan yesterday shut down the suggestion from Rio Tinto _ admittedly the owner of our biggest uranium miner _ that Australia should start using nuclear energy to help meet its carbon reduction targets. ``We don’t agree with Rio Tinto on that point,’’ was the Treasurer’s curt response.

Unfortunately, the government’s blanket refusal to accept nuclear energy as a potential solution the planet’s greenhouse woes is fatally undermined by Labor’s own schizophrenic platform on uranium _ pro-mining, pro-exports but anti-power.

It’s a platform that is unlikely to change at next week’s national conference. But, honestly, if Labor’s so worried about the risks of nuclear power and nuclear weapons, why is it okay to mine and export Australian uranium to feed overseas reactors?

Why not just ban the lot?

Even the Labor states _ granted the power to make their own minds up on uranium mining _ can’t get their story straight. South Australia’s Mike Rann is decidedly pro-uranium _ two of the nation’s three operating uranium mines are in his state, with a fourth and fifth due to start next year. Queensland allows uranium exploration but no mining, while in NSW and Victoria you can’t even look for the stuff.

Only Western Australia with its Liberal-Nationals government is unambiguous about uranium mining _ the more, the merrier. According to The Australian, federal Resources Minister Martin Ferguson will today announce a $110m plan for a new uranium mine, the first in the state, at Lake Maitland about 950km northeast of Perth.

The only place where all the states stand together is their steadfast opposition to the development of a nuclear energy industry. Unfortunately, any debate on whether this is actually the correct stance is quickly shut down before either side can warm up.

The reason is simple: not many voters want nuclear reactors in their electorates.

As John Howard discovered when he commissioned nuclear boffin Ziggy Switkowski to look into the issue in 2006, it’s pretty easy to run a scare campaign against a party that even hints it might be a good idea to maybe, one day, you know, have a bit of a think about going nuclear.

As such, it’s an issue nobody in any position of power will touch. This political cowardice is disappointing because it’s a debate we need to have as much of the world embraces nuclear power as a solution growing energy needs and environment issues (64 nuclear reactors are being built over the next six years).

There many arguments against the use of nuclear power but they generally come back to a few core concerns _ the risk of Chernobyl-like catastrophes, the spread of nuclear weapons, the management of nuclear waste and NIMBYism (no working family wants a reactor in its backyard). All fair concerns, although it is worth pointing out that more people died mining coal between 1969 and 2000 than in nuclear accidents (and that includes the thousands still likely to die from the 1986 Chernobyl disaster).

But do these concerns outweigh the potential benefits of replacing dirty coal-fired energy with clean nuclear energy? And aren’t we already contributing to some of these problems, such as generating nuclear waste, by mining and exporting uranium?

Nuclear power, although it uses huge amounts of water, is considered a clean source of energy, with negligible carbon emissions from the mining stage through to the decommissioning of reactors.

It’s far better than so-called clean-coal. In fact, it’s up there with wind and solar power. And like windy days and sunshine, we’ve got plenty of it _ about 40 per cent of the world’s known uranium reserves are in Australia.

Switkowski’s 2006 report, commissioned by Howard, reckoned nuclear energy would be a ``practical option for Australian electricity production’‘. It would be the ``lowest cost, safest and cleanest’’ source of electricity, he said, albeit with two important provisos; It would take a significant change in community thinking to make it palatable, and it would only become viable if other power sources, such as coal, were hit with penalties under a carbon-reduction scheme.

Ross Garnaut, Kevin Rudd’s climate change expert, was less certain, saying in his own report last year it was ``not obvious that nuclear is an important part of our answer’’ to climate change issues. Before he got to his own caveats, Rudd and Wong jumped in and thanked him for his contribution.

But read on, and even Garnaut could see a nuclear future if reactors weren’t too expensive, if we got better at storing radioactive waste, if technologies such as ``clean coal’’ failed to live up to expectations and if ``community disquiet eases’‘. That’s a lot of ifs, but ``in these circumstances, there would be reason for the Australian government to engage with community disquiet on the issue, and to seek a change of policy’‘.

The commonwealth’s own atomic body, the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation, says it’s time to give ``active consideration’’ to nuclear power. The government pays ANSTO for advice. Take it.

30 comments

Show oldest | newest first

    • pete says:

      08:10am | 23/07/09

      Yes we do!!!!! and I voted labour last election

    • coxie says:

      08:25am | 23/07/09

      “Clean nuclear energy”, that’s an oxymoron if ever there was but I would agree that there a little air-borne emissions to worry the atmosphere unless, of course, the TV cameras home in on the water vapour pouring out of the cooling towers, which are used to condense the steam, etc, etc, etc.

      The place to build our ‘newk’ stations is out in the deserts of this island continent and then do what the Chinese do: Transport their remote, electrical energy via EHV DC transmission lines to where ever it’s needed - don’t look to justify the cost for the immediate generation although I would think our political cycle makes this an improbable possibility.

    • Lexi says:

      08:41am | 23/07/09

      Sorry, “clean” nuclear energy?  What’s “clean” about it?  The diesel burnt by all the machinery to extract uranium from the ground?  The destruction of the natural environment by mining?  The huge quantities of potable water nuclear power stations AND uranium mines churn through?  Or is it just the waste?

      And, after all that it’s not RENEWABLE energy.

      Why are we wasting any time at all considering energy production for the future that comes from any form of mining?  It’s not sustainable.

      In Australia we have almost unlimited amounts of sunshine to generate solar energy, plenty of windy places for wind power, dams and rivers for hydro, and the longest coastline of almost any nation for wave power generation, as well as opportunities for thermal mass energy production.

      Thermal mass and wave power generations could provide base load and a combination of other forms peak power generation.

      There is no reason why we shouldn’t be putting solar panels on the roofs of every publicly owned building in Australia.

      These are the reasons why nuclear power generation is unpalatable for the Australian public.  Most people can see better alternatives.

    • Patrick says:

      08:46am | 23/07/09

      Pete, you voted for Labour? I wasn’t aware we had a Labour party in this country?

      Nuclear energy, I don’t like it myself, but to be honest, i think many peoples perceptions of it are fueled by what they see satirised on The Simpsons

    • Rationalist says:

      08:48am | 23/07/09

      I like coal, I like nuclear, one way or another I will be happy.

    • Matt says:

      08:49am | 23/07/09

      I agree the desert might seem like ideal solution however there is a tiny flaw in that argument… Water.

      Nuclear power plants need water, lots of it and a reliable source at that.  That’s why they built near the shoreline so they can use the oceans water.  There is only one nuclear power plant in the world not on a shore line in Phoenix and that use treated sewage.  I don’t think the people of Coober Pedy got to the toilet enough for that.

      At the end of the day in the driest continent on earth we are going to have to build it on the coast line and boy will that be a S@#T fight when that happens

    • Jeff from Meroo says:

      08:55am | 23/07/09

      How many reactors can 11 billion a year in tax revenue build?  If the Rudd gov’t is going to punish us for using electricity, they should be putting in place alternatives for the people with the money they take from the people.

    • Eric says:

      09:00am | 23/07/09

      Most opposition to nuclear power is based on superstition.

      Some modern nuclear designs based on pebble bed technology don’t even use water, and are small enough to fit in a cargo container. Other designs can run for a hundred yeas per fuel load, by breeding their own fuel.

      We’re missing out on a huge environmentally-friendly industry. At the very least we should be exporting enriched uranium, not raw ore.

    • iansand says:

      09:03am | 23/07/09

      Eschewing nuclear power may be the right decision.  Refusing to consider it is very, very stupid.

    • Jane says:

      09:30am | 23/07/09

      The ALP latched on to the environment/Global warming evangelist topic and flavour of the day etc as a way to secure the green preference vote from an increasing ‘green’ tinged perspective in the electorate .....purely to win votes….nothing more noble than that….and an adherance to the global end objective of Socialism by stealth and guilt. Their ETS is a scam, nothing to do with ‘helping’ the environment at all.
      Now that the previous ‘never had it so good, nothing else to worry about’ populace has focused on ‘other’ factors…like losing their jobs, cost of living and surviving….Kruddco have backed off on this to a degree…thus the low target and back peddling.
      They’ve backed themselves into a corner….because after years of scaremongering on Uranium and Nuclear and denigrating the previous Coalition government ( who set up the Greenhouse website in 1998 - funded multiple alternate energy projects, developing ‘clean coal’, the Solar City initiatves - all projects KRuddco have now endorsed and taken credit for) wrongfully accusing them of being ‘climate deniers’ and ‘doing ‘nothing’, they have placed themselves in the position of being perceived as doing no different themselves… The previously vocal, self annointed ‘global champions for the environment’, Labor Party have realised sentiment is changing…and have backed off and dithered/renegged on targets….angering both sides. All talk, no actual action.
      The BIGGEST predicament they face and the biggest corner they have painted themselves into is also of their own making. Their own hypocrisy on claiming to be ‘more environmentally committed’ than the Coalition is that they so loudly dismissed any toleration of Nuclear Energy as an alternative baseload. This dogmatic public and very vocal refusal to even discuss/debate or contemplate nuclear as an alternative baseload has, not only undermined/s their credibility on finding real solutions, but sealed/seals any future reaction to them if altered.
      They ridiculed the Coalition for even considering it as an alternative and spent considerable energy denigrating and scaremongering on it. They, therefore, cannot be serious or taken seriously on their self tagged ‘environmental’ sanctimony and carbon concerns while excluding such significant alternative options….options already significantly taken up by the rest of the world. Watch them change and backflip should public sentiment also do so. We should never forget their dogmatic stance on this….and what damage they have done and what time they have wasted tinkering at the edges ‘pretending’ to address the problem instead.
      “Labor attacks Howard’s nuclear vision” -
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1909035.htm
      “Howard’s nuclear vision unveiled” -
      http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21636465-2,00.html
      The only ‘concern’ Labor has is of votes - nothing more.
      Rather than writing his name into the history books as some sort of ‘global visionary and noteable motivator’ as is his motivation, the megalomaniac KRudd will be remembered as Australia’s most egotistical, most deceitful, most manipulative, most dangerous and worst ever PM….and the ALP itself as environmental opportunistists/hypocrites rather than having real environmental/economic integrity.
      Let’s hope Australians wake up before it’s really too late.

    • AllanL says:

      09:46am | 23/07/09

      Uranium is not the only nuclear fuel.
      Thorium reactors designed, built and operated in the 1960’s but were not developed further because they DID NOT produce plutonium.
      Water is not an issue with the new designs and some thorium reactor designs are like goats when it comes to food it that they can consume other radioactive material and isotopes as fuel when mixed with thorium, allowing the destruction of long life radioactive waste in a safe manner.
      Doubters should read up on the newer designs but that requires an open mind.

    • watto says:

      10:07am | 23/07/09

      Eric says:
      “Most opposition to nuclear power is based on superstition”. Hmmm what about all the poorly stored waste around the world Eric? Take the almost comical, incompetent, nuclear power industry in Britain -bit like the Simpsons really - maybe the Simpsons was a documentary?

      Governments continually refuse to take responsibility for the existing tons and tons of waste. Just like the British did after exploding some nuclear bombs in Aussie then buggering off without a thought of a cleanup. Where do they want to send it to be dumped…umm Australia? That wouldn’t be in your backyard would it AllanL or Eric? 

      What about 150 odd Russian cold war submarines rusting ports still with nuclear power plants still sitting rusting on board? The list goes on ... People seem to love nuclear but noone wants to deal with the waste or the other consequences…

      Follow the Rio Tinto money trail to the Labor party.

    • Chris says:

      10:10am | 23/07/09

      hmmmm.. It seems the “think tank” when Rudd came in was a WOFTAM. No one wants to discuss Nuclear, they quickly pull the Solar Rebate because it cost too much, yet wont look at alternatives that the public wants to debate - Rudd and gang - you have lost me as a voter - but Libs - dont count me one either.. Get your act together, start debating REAL issues that will grow the nation and secure a future for my daughters, and their kids.

      Wilson and Barnaby are at least acting in the interest of the community.

    • RT says:

      10:12am | 23/07/09

      Don’t fall for the proposition that nuclear reactors could be built in the desert far away from population centres where people might object. They’ll need to be built much closer to electricity consumers than that, and close to reliable water supplies. And there’s the rub. No government in the foreseeable future will run the NIMBY gauntlet on building reactors, however much the might like nuclear energy in theory.  There’ll be no Australian baseload power generating nuclear reactor built in the first half of this century, if ever. So consider it all you like, it ain’t gonna happen.

    • AS says:

      10:43am | 23/07/09

      Prevalent in ALP decision making tis political opportunism over forward thinking that will benefit the nation in the long-term. The lack of real debate around climate and alternatives whether they be nuclear, solar or wind is just like NSW ALP’s continuing support of coal as illustrated by the Four Corners on Monday. It is all about selling off our natural advantages to the highest bidder for short-term gain at the cost of future generations.  All of this is epitomized by the spin of the “Future Forum” or whatever it was called and the meagre agenda that emerged because anything worthwhile would have required running the gauntlet of the ALP factions. Bring back PK rather than these sallow apparatchiks and then perhaps we could secure meaningful change.

    • D says:

      12:18pm | 23/07/09

      Here’s a thought. First reactor gets built on Capital Hill. Then I’m convinced.

    • Ben Payne says:

      12:20pm | 23/07/09

      Why do we need to keep digging shit out of the ground to make power? 

      It is just not necessary. We have the technology to create renewable energy, so please just stop with all the noise about coal and uranium, and start talking about geothermal and solar and wind etc.

    • ANDIKA says:

      01:45pm | 23/07/09

      I’m a climate change sceptic, but let’s assume we have to cut our CO2 emissions then the only viable energy alternative is to go nuclear as Solar and wind can’t support the base load requirements.
      People rightly have concerns about the nuclear waste and how it will be treated, but like the nuclear reactor technology, waste technologies have also improved greatly.
      The best was now to dispose of the nuclear waste is via a two stage burial process.
      1)  Encase the spent nuclear rods into a synthetic brick. These bricks are about the size of an ice hockey puck and are very strong – stronger that quartz (rate above 7 Mohs scale of hardness)
      2)  Drill about 500 metres plus into granite/granodiorite Batholiths. Batholiths are massive expanses of granitic rock and are extremely hard and in geological terms, have not moved for many hundreds of millions of years.  There is zero risk to the artesian water supply as these batholiths are solid – just pick up a piece of granite and you’ll see just how strong it is.
      3)  That’s it, waste problem solved and there’s ZERO risk to the environment.

    • Dangerous Dan says:

      01:54pm | 23/07/09

      NO! The nuclear power waste product is not safe, and never will be. Toxic waste and weopons, what are you thinking???
      “The technology is cleaner than ever…” Show us that you can ‘clean’ toxic waste, not just ‘safely store’ toxic waste before you even consider digging it out of the ground. Why does money blind people to the obvious???

    • Arcanum says:

      02:50pm | 23/07/09

      We need to be able to talk about it.

      Nuclear waste is still an issue, but it’s volume is decreasing.  They now “reuse” the waste several times to use less uranium.  Byproduct is less waste.

      If you made a deep lead lined/concrete hole in the middle of no where (SA? smile ), its about about as good as you could get, as long as they didn’t cut corners and do it on the cheap.  Australia is as geostable as it gets.

      And as to where to put the power plants, the Liberals would put them in safe Labor seats (80%+) not close to the city but not so far away as introduce too much transmission losses and Labor would put them ... in safe Labor seats, maybe a little further out.

    • Bob Tee says:

      03:32pm | 23/07/09

      Australia used to be one of the world’s leaders in nuclear technology until the green movement, under the protection of Hawke, made it seem as though it was evil incarnate in the 1970’s. In also fitted in well with the ALP’s left wing (in Russia’s payroll in many cases) propaganda that anything nuclear that might somehow find its way into nuclear weapons. In truth, nuclear power generation has a much safer and cleaner record than either coal or oil energy. Many more lives are lost in one year in coal mines than the entire history of nuclear energy.

      Unfortunately an entire generation of Australian nuclear technology has now been lost, and we will be the poorer for it in generations to come. Other nations will prosper at our misfortune.

    • Ben Payne says:

      04:02pm | 23/07/09

      Um, hello? Why do we need either coal or nuclear?  Shouldn’t we be looking at RENEWABLE energy?

      I don’t care about climate change, we will never know until there is some unbiased research, and in the current situation, there isn’t any.

      ANDIKA - You dismiss solar and wind offhand, then jump straight to nuclear as the only solution.  We just don’t need it.  Geothermal is a completely renewable energy source that could replace all our fossil fuel power plants, and we wouldn’t need to keep destroying the environment and wasting resources to do it.

    • ANDIKA says:

      05:28pm | 23/07/09

      RE Ben Payne @ 402pm

      Solar and Wind won’t be able to cut it - it’s that simple. Half of any given day is without light so solar fails and when it doesn’t blow you don’t get any flow so wind fails
      Sure Geothermal is worth considering, look at what the kiwi’s are doing with it in the North Island.
      Now I know NO-ONE wants a nuclear reactor in ‘their back yard’ but who wants a coal fired power station either?? Australia is a fortunate country as we not only have 1/3 of the world’s uranium, but we also happen to have stable environments to dispose of the waste and the location of the plants can be set-up a long way away from large population centres.  We should do is what the Chinese are doing, build the plants in remote locations and cable the electricity to the various substations.
      If man made CO2 is so bad, then it makes sense to seriously consider nuclear power.
      If the City of Paris and most of France are happy enough to have their power supplied by nuclear energy then so should we.
      kiwi’s

    • miantiao says:

      05:38pm | 23/07/09

      here is the crux;

      under the guise of nuclear power,  nuclear weapons may be developed and produced.

      Given the uncertainties of Australia’s security in the region as outlined in the recently released defence paper i’d say that’s where we are headed.

      and so should we.

    • D says:

      05:54pm | 23/07/09

      Nuclear power plants and nuclear waste are of course perfectly safe until they aren’t. Inevitably something will go wrong, and with nuclear energy and radioactive waste, which no matter how you package it is the nastiest possible stuff, that means catastrophically wrong. Simple as that. Anyone who is any sort of a “sceptic” (whatever that means these days) must surely have human nature at the very top of their list.

    • Julian Thomas says:

      08:02pm | 23/07/09

      many Libs have Uranium in their Share Portfolio so lets store the Nuclear waster on the North Shore, unless of course you guys are hypocrites???

    • carl says:

      02:40am | 24/07/09

      The coal will always undercut nuclear in OZ. But we really should be moving into enrichment and waste disposal. Its currently being stored under Paris, surely we can find a spot for it in the middle of the desert (Jobs for indigenous communities),  We should be positioning ourselves as a reliable and highly skilled service provider to the rapidly growing nuclear industry.

    • Lexi says:

      11:07am | 24/07/09

      Not only do we have geothermal, solar and wind power, but also hydro.  There are plenty of hydro power stations that can run 24/7 - without “wasting” water - by recycling the water through pipes back up above the dam, then through again and again.  We should have hydro generators on every dam and weir in the country.

      No single renewable source should be considered in isolation - but no mines are necessary and we don’t need to fund the building of massive power stations near ANYONE’s home if we go renewable.

    • Rocket scientist says:

      03:56pm | 24/07/09

      One of the new pebble bed reactors could be put on the back of a semi-trailer and dropped off at say, Dubbo, on a concrete block where it would run for 20 years without refuelling and producing all the electricity the district needed. Being a pebble bed design it is impossible to explode; if anything went wrong, like no cooling, it would simply shut down because pebble beds automatically do that.

 

Facebook Recommendations

Read all about it

Punch live

Up to the minute Twitter chatter

Malcolm Farr

Sydney criminal barrister has advised Craig Thomson on phone cloning. Expect a mention in his Monday speech to Parly.. http://t.co/XC4FW8bq

Malcolm Farr

@michellegrattan Shorten has an ability to be aggressive and positive w/o being shrill. Not a skill all his cabinet colleagues share.

Daniel Piotrowski

@ACCAN_AU @ThePunchHQ thanks!

Daniel Piotrowski

RT @ACCAN_AU: Older consumers need digital literacy skills to combat cyber crime. Great artcile over at @ThePunchHQhttp://t.co/KAC1BG9e

Recent posts

The latest and greatest

They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

A private school girl’s family is sueing her elite, extremely expensive private school for not…

Our Budget blade didn’t cut aid, it’s being paid in spades

Our Budget blade didn’t cut aid, it’s being paid in spades

Ten million children vaccinated. 2.5 million people with access to safe drinking water. And 30 million…

An insecure workforce makes for an insecure society

An insecure workforce makes for an insecure society

It’s usually best to avoid putting too many statistics in a post but reading the ACTU’s report…

Nosebleed Section

choice ringside rantings

From: The greatest ending to a football season ever?

Dave B says:

Congratulations & well deserved win! I've been a Utd supporter from 7 years of age, even stuck with them when they went down to the 2nd Div. However, despite the X-town rivalry & even as a devout MU fan, I can say that I truly admired the determination, courage & skill shown by the Blues - What a spectacle,… [read more]

From: Welfare for breeders is a bonus for everyone

Change Up! says:

I have no problem paying my taxes. As a single, childless person on a very decent income, I can afford it and not have my life severely altered. Plus I understand that my taxes paying for things like schools, childcare and infrastructure is ultimately a good thing. A better community is better for me… [read more]

Gentle jabs to the ribs

Real women like men who drink beer

Real women like men who drink beer

British comedian John Cleese calls them “beer fairies”.  It’s a euphemism for… Read more

198 comments

Newsletter

Read all about it

Sign up to the free daily Punch newsletter